FSGW Getaway Program - 2003

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: KathWestra
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 03:52 PM

Charley, the survivors who didn't have to go to work today are still sleeping it off. Those of us who are at the office (but wish we weren't) are starting to post on a "Getaway 2003 Memories" thread which you can find here: Getaway
Memories

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 08:12 AM

Any survivors?

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 09:40 PM

Joel,

Come play the fiddle with us in the gym, I think it's two o'clock:
the old time country music jam

regards,

chance

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: jbailes
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 03:23 PM

if anyone wants to get with me at the piano some odd moment when the gym/piano is free to play/sing folk blues, primitive gospel, etc. i would really appreciate it. i like jamming with guitarists, gutbucket whatever that is, mouthharps, fiddles, mandolins, viola - anything. late friday night, or right after meals or during meals, any time the piano is free, would be great!
i am also looking for people to play my fiddle with, doing jug band, blues, etc.

thanks!

joel bailes

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: MMario
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 12:35 PM

I'm running about 2 hours behind - hope to leave within the hour - which means I should be there about 7:00 - but as Jeri says - probably an hour later....

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 10:10 AM

I'm about to leave, but I have to hit a few places first: air in tires, gas, road food, ATM. If all goes well, I should be on the road at about 11. I figure that means I should get there around 7-7:30, but I'm always wrong. Add at least an hour. SEE Y'ALL SOON!!!

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Tinker
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 12:14 AM

Well, I guess I go to bed without knowing if it was the Yank's or REd Sox's. Colin headed to bed only half an hour ago... But the off to school crowd starts soon.

See Ya soon

Kathy

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 11:28 PM

Well I think there's going to be more scrambling of the various subpopulations this year, cabinwise. Possibly Mudcat, Shellback and Other "rooms" within a cabin, but things may be mixed up more.

Then too, Charlie is hoping to look around and identify some good spaces for late night singing/jamming and make suggestions, which isn't quite what Gary asked but may work out about the same.

Yeah, it's a darned long way between venues late at night. Somehow a flashlight isn't quite enough while you're stumbling up (and down) those hills in the dark. Then again, there are often so many other people out there, it looks like a bunch of big fireflies.

Well I'm supposed to be packing. See you soon.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: momnopp
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 11:20 PM

MMario -- gorgeous!!!!! I hope people are saving up their pennies!!

I bought 2 of the 3 sets of the sardine jam...(I think only one set had that title, actually) no matter -- it's always wonderful.

See y'all tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JudyO

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 10:14 PM

yes, I bought the tape of the "sardine jam" *grin*...there I was, in a 12X12 rooom with 74 of my favorite people, doing something or other...(it was even musical!)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:49 PM

But it hasn't been a cabin-inhabitant-only jam. Anybody can walk in and sit on somebody's lap and join in. (Last year, I believe it was referred to as the 'sardine jam'.)

Whoa, MMario! Big Bucks! That shawl is GORGEOUS!!!

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: MMario
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:42 PM

Snuffy - they have tended in the past to stick a lot of the mudcatters in the same cabin -

BTW - a picture of the shawl I am donating to the silent auction is
here

it doesn't show the overall shape - but you can look at the green one on the same page for that.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:23 PM

"...planning to hold evening jams and sing-arounds? "

PLAN? *grin*...surely you jest! This is 'group dynamics' at its best! Things flow!...some want quiet, intimate little spots where they CAN'T be found...some want the biggest, loudest spot possible. The thing to do is find the place where what YOU want to do will fit in best. (yes...that's right...tossing a clever Filk Song into a ballad session 'might' not be safe...*grin*)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: alanww
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:01 PM

Mudcatville?

(Snuffy on Alan's computer)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 07:47 PM

LET'S GET READY TO RAAAAAAM-BLLLLE!!! (wood...)

Schedule looks great! (Except for the usual need to clone oneself!). About to head downstairs for one last practice session.

One question...one of my few Getaway gripes has been that with all the possible singing venues spread out (both at Ramblewood and prior sites), I feel too lazy to wander amongst all the venues (especially toting guitar and books). So I've ended up the last couple years hanging out in the TV Room Friday and Mudcatville on Saturday. Which has certainly been fun, without a doubt, but I **do** wonder what else I might be missing. So I wonder if maybe a place could be provided for people to note where they're planning to hold evening jams and sing-arounds? (and maybe style?).

-- Gary

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Janie
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 05:49 PM

I really don't see how am possibly going to get to everything that I consider absolutely "can't miss:-O" Wish all my problems had to doo with too much of too many good things! Great Job, Rita, the rest of the FSGW gang, and all of you wonderful and generous and talented workshop leaders. What a labor of love.

On my way home to pack:)

Janie

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 01:08 PM

the walk that is tedious is going straight from the dining hall (where the TV room is) to the Gym or "white house", as both are up near the parking lot. Going to the barn is much shorter, and going downhill to meals is ...well...downhill! *grin*...planning is advised if you have a schedule that takes you from the TV room to a workshop at the top of the hill- like leaving 5 minutes earlier. Heck...it will be obvious...we all seem to get in plenty of music, no matter what.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 12:51 PM

the "unscheduled" impromptu stuff can be incredible also - I remember listening to the 'Beef Brothers' rehearse a number while I watched Jeri waltz across the porch to the music.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 12:37 PM

A couple of people have talked to me about the need for modest sized, general-theme sing-arounds. I agree. We have 'em folks. Should be something for everybody, most hours.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 11:26 AM

Yeah, Mike, you weren't around to complain.... :-)

If anyone is still checking this so late in the game -- there are some REALLY popular and powerful workshops in this year's schedule. Well, not just "some." LOTS.

I may announce that if you are a workshop leader and your workshop has only a teeny few people attending, you can ask if they'd like to join another workshop or do a group sing-around, no leader, or someone can volunteer to be the leader,.... so you can get to at least one of the opposing workshops.

Any thoughts?

I have already told the leaders of "Who's Here This Year" that they can ask for volunteers to lead the second hour. Two hours is a LONG workshop. But it's always really rewarding.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 10:49 AM

I am currently in the internet section of the Coatsville, PA library. Its good to catch up a little. Hey Rita, is my workshop really the first one on Saturday? Oh well, I can handle it. Can't wait til things start tomorrow.

We are having a great time on our vacation. Been to the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Bldg, Broadway show, Independence Hall and Liberty Bell and Valley Forge (where us Yanks whupped them UK's). Hope to see a little of Amish country today as well as Gettysburg before driving down to Darlington on Friday afternoon. See you all soon.

Mike

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 10:38 AM

Thanks Fortunato.

And when they were up, they were up ........

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST,fortunato hard at work
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 10:26 AM

The weather forcast for Darlington MD where lies Camp Ramblewood and the Getaway is http://search.weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USMD0120_f.html

Since the buildings are largely unheated, dress warmly in layers.

Camp DrinkcideandRunamok (So named after Micca's visit)lies along a long, grassy downhill. At the top is the parking area. below and to the right is the Gym. Below and to the left is the barn. Still lower in the middle is the Dining Hall. The Cabins are lower still and to the left and behind the Dining Hall. Below and to the right of the Dining Hall is an out door, open pavillion. Beyond this is the lake. The Dining hall as two wings, one for eating and jamming and the other for sessions and crafts and CDs. Each building is 2 minutes for the agile down hill and 5 to 15 minutes uphill and more for the less than agile (or sober).

You are surrounded by grassy fields, trees and woods and far from the maddening crowd. Out in the sticks, the boonies. Look for me on Saturday.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 09:00 AM

British cities aren't usually arranged on a grid pattern, Mario, so we don't have the concept of a block. Would it be 2 minutes walk? 5 minutes? 15 minutes?

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:54 AM

The various venues are not far apart - I would guess roughly a city block at the most- though as some people have mentioned it seems the next one is always uphill! *grin*

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:27 AM

How far apart are these venues, then?

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 07:28 AM

Timetables look splendid, Rita & Jeri!
Will study in detail on plane journey.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 11:48 PM

Rita!

Get some sleep!

Love, Nancy

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 11:29 PM

Claymore, I have switched Waltzing with Country & Western on Sunday. Fiddle tunes will overlap C&W but only for half an hour.

I didn't switch Contra Dance and the Old Time Country Jam, though. I'm just afraid of introducing new complications. Maybe I'm fretting too much (first time ever!) but I'd rather leave it this way.

I also switched Derek Seed's "Problematic change" to come before the Pub Sing. This is to allow the Pub Sing to continue for 2 hours if the energy is there. I didn't want to schedule it for 2 hours, just to leave room for more.

This only leaves Derek half an hour between the Shellback Chorus and his workshop but that's usually enough even with the hills at Ramblewood! At least it's a downhill walk between the two.:-)

Rita

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 04:48 PM

Jim, I've got a whole lot of cookie tins of various sizes I've been trying to get rid of! I'll bring 'em along, if you'll promise I won't have to take 'em back home!

Nancy

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 04:27 PM

Rita, I wasen't able to bring up the FSGW page with your phone number on it, so I'm going to continue to try to get you, and at the same time see if I can reach you on this thread.

I have just two change suggestions, the first is relatively minor, the second more important.

1.   If it is all possible, on Saturday, could you switch the Old Time Country Jam with the Contra Dance, for two reasons. One, the folks who have just finished their lunch may not want to swoop and scoop right after lunch. The second reason is more important. It may well develop that the folks who are particiapting in the Old Time Country Jam may decide to play in the Contra Dance and the Jam would be a wonderful warm-up for the Dance. If you have a reason, or if Chance is tied to the time slot, so be it. But if not ????

2. The second request is a bit more important. As I mentioned in some earlier threads (including one above), I was hoping that you wouldn't put Fiddle Styles opposite the Waltz class, as it would drain any of the desperately needed fiddlers away from the dance class. As it is, there is a half hour overlap with the Fiddle Styles class. Would it be possible to switch the Country and Western class with the Waltz class? Switching the Fiddle Styles class with the following Songwriters Show Case won't work as it would still leave the half an hour overlap.

I'm sorry to get to you this way, but my only computer (at work) has not been cooperative, and I needed to get through to you.

By the way, I sent full boat ($161.00) a couple of weeks ago with no confirmation, but I will bring my checkbook and cash if there has been some sort of glich. Thanks, Don

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 04:13 PM

Pickle buckets would be great!

Also if you have any number 10 cans with the corrugated sides can you bring 2 or 3?

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Dani
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 04:06 PM

Jim,

Painter's buckets the same as pickle buckets? Five gallons?

Dani

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 02:53 PM

The "final(?)" schedule grids are up! We still need to add a few descriptions of concerts etc -- and we'll actually do it, folks, if we can find the time... :-)

Many, many thanks to Jeri Corlew for typing those Grids!

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 12:08 PM

Last minute request for supplies and tools for instrument building:

If anyone has any of the following we would sure appreciate it in the instrument building workshop:

Tools:

Hand drills and bits (or electric).
Small files
Utility knives
Coping saws

Supplies:

Small pieces of scrap hardwood
OLD WORNOUT GUITAR, BANJO, OR DULCIMER STRINGS
Nylon Monofilament fishing line greater than 40lb test
Scrap pieces of Tyvek (used to mosture proof houses, or to mail packages)
Cookie tins
Cigar boxes
Old copper tubing or PVC conduit.
Painters buckets.

Any or all would be appreciated.

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Janie
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 10:20 AM

Refresh (2 more days----but who's counting, right?)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 01:17 PM

we will have concerts...the Sunday night one, being smaller, 'may' be switched to the more intimate space in the TV room, near the dining hall...perhaps even without amps. Discussion ongoing.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Janie
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 12:00 PM

Will we be having the Saturday and Sunday night open mic concerts in the gym?

Janie

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: alanww
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM

Just got back from a long weekend away at Banbury Folk Festival and haven't you been busy, Rita! Looks like the programme is nearly there to me! The problem certainly won't be searching for something I am interested in!
"T'was on one April morning ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 07:33 AM

Tinker, I occasionally enjoy the fact I forget things. I can laugh at old jokes because I've forgotten the punch line and can re-read books because I've forgotten the ending - that sort of thing. I have NO idea what you're talking about. (No, don't explain, just sing it at some point and surprise me!)

AACK! The Silent Auction. Must make a trip to the basement, or...hang on - an idea requiring no money and a few brain cells takes shape. (Yes, I'll wipe them off before I bring the item.)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: momnopp
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 11:35 PM

OK, I threatened to do it and now I actually HAVE done it...I put a copy of the Silent Auction form up on my Website and anyone who wants to download it and fill it out before they hand it to me is more than welcome to do so.

Here 'tis
and then you just have to scroll down a little (depending on your screen resolution) right below the table and you'll see the link. Feel free to poke around the site while you're at it. George Rathbone, of Getaway Interactive Stories fame, is the engine behind our most successful project, Mithral Quest.

Peace,

JudyO/momnopp

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 11:20 PM

BTW...at the Getaway, there are often..(read 'always') more than one late night singing spots...the boistereous folks will be in one place and the tune players in another, and the quiet accapella folks hiding in a corner... ..and folks often move between them. The dynamics of this process could be a thesis in Sociology! You all probably know how it goes.. Depending on the weather, there are LOTS of places to sing.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Tinker
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 10:45 PM

Jeri, just a reminder, I owe you a rendition of your birthday song. It's now available on demand if at any point you so desire...giggle giggle.

Tinker

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 07:40 PM

Jeri, No, I haven't gotten your e-mail. I'll PM you right now to be sure you have the right addy for me. I hope hope hope this will work out and you will be able to do the bulk of the grid typing! Thank you.

Nancy King and I made some changes in the grid last night, I'm working now on getting them up.

Rita

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 07:35 PM

About Sing-Arounds.

Workshop leaders have the choice of going around the circle, or of calling on people who are ready to sing.

There will almost certainly be some workshops this year where we don't even have time to "get around the circle." It's hard to do if you don't know the people, but DO try to give everyone a chance, especially the first-comers, before giving any individual a second or third chance to lead something. (There are sometimes a few exceptions to this: People who have to leave to lead another workshop, those who have a really huge repertoire of the type of music being featured, etc.)

The most important phrase for a workshop leader: "Who would like to lead the next song?" :) Second: "You haven't sung anything. Would you like to lead one now?"

Late night sing-arounds are another story. If you are NOT a shy person, please be thoughtful and wait a decent interval before offering to lead another song, so the shy people will have a chance to speak up.

Of course, every few years someone comes who thinks they're God's gift to the Getaway and that they owe it to us amateurs to make sure we hear a lot of their great music in the late-night sings. They probably aren't, and they don't. That's why we set up mini-concerts. Late night sings are for sharing. Well, you can only grin and bear it when it happens... But....

We really encourage taking turns. If you're feeling really shut out, stand up and say loudly, "I have a song." (only don't say that in the middle of someone else's song or people will look at you really funny....)

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Fortunato
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 07:28 PM

Lo, and the lovely and talented Noreen cometh to Delaware and, indeed, she bringeth the chorus of shellbacks as well. We shall sing and dance and maketh merry. "And smale fooles maken melode". And great fools as well, I trust.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Snuffy
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 07:03 PM

Wow! what a program - so many good things that there's usually 2 and sometimes three places I want to be at the same time.

And singarounds are always a problem: last night at Banbury Festival I was in a singaround from 7 to 11 and got three turns before 8.30 when it was quiet, and never got another go in the next two and a half hours when lots of others joined in.

But perhaps Singaround Optimisation should be a separate thread.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 10:16 PM

214 verse ballad..NEIN! Ve haf vays to deal mit dose!

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 09:31 PM

Rita, you gots my e-mail? Go ahead and sock them old files to me, mama.

Honestly, the sing-arounds are ok, but...
They're always packed and if one sits in the wrong place, there will be oodles of people ahead of you, there will be chatting in between songs, and there will be the inevitable 214 verse ballad. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) Anyway, once you're at the arse end of a line, you've got a skunk's chance on the beltway of getting to sing. That won't stop me from going to the sing-arounds though.

Strategic butt-parking: go for the middle if you can't bribe the leader. Ends are BAD. Non-scheduled singing doesn't have a time limit so folks don't feel pressed to 'get on with it'.

Sign of a good, albeit frustrating, schedule: there isn't much you DON'T want to go to.

Subject: RE: FSGW Getaway Program - 2003
From: PaulineL
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 03:47 PM

Joel, Thanks so much for telling us in advance what the barrelhouse piano workshop will be like. It sounds like great fun!