FSGW 2000 PART DEUX

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 12:27 AM

OK. The 2000 Getaway is now just memories, some pictures, and some great recordings (we hope)

Go here for testimonials:

FSGW Getaway 2000 Memories,

See you next year!

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: momnopp
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:28 AM

Actually, I was kind of looking forward to some "advances by over stimulated Mudcatters". . .

See you Friday night. . .

JudyO

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: bbelle
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 02:36 PM

I cannot believe all the stir my snake stick remark has caused. Fortunato, you sound almost indignant. I live in North Florida ... there's Eastern Diamonback Rattlers, Copperheads, Cottonmouths, Coral Snakes, and gators. I certainly don't get indignant when someone mentions this fact.

Lighten up, please, it could be a long weekend.

jenny

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GUEST,Roger in Baltimore
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:22 PM

Fortunato,

When I was a youngun' (and the world has certainly changed since then) copperheads were a common experience in my area. I personally killed (here comes PETA) three before I became an adult. All were within 50 feet of our house. I have not seen one since 1970 or so. Perhaps the population has declined. But, 'Spaw is right, the cool weather that has already begun is sending them into hiding.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:03 PM

First, I'm not going to be there so the chances of an unwanted attack by a 'Catter are reduced by 85%. Second, most Copperheads are starting to slow down by that time an enter the initial stages of hibernation. Third, if someone says they received a call from the police and were told to detain and STRIP SEARCH you, remember what you read in the "McDonald's McStrip" thread and act accordingly.

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Tinker
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:54 PM

Ahhh Shucks, and I thought I'd rationalized myself a brand new pair of boots.....
Tinker

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Fortunato
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:21 PM

After 45 years of hiking, camping, etc in the Delmarva region I have never seen a copperhead. I have seen two rattlesnakes in that time, both in West Virginia. I don't believe anybody needs a snake stick. Now, if you are concerned with unwanted advances by over stimulated Mudcatters, then a stick might be useful to disuade unwanted admirers. (I always carry one for this purpose).

regards

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Tinker
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 01:43 PM

My South Carolinian raised husband who is so graciously covering a home weekend of insanity says boots... tall leather boots... So now you'll know how to recognize me. He keeps mumbling something about it's only three days and what do I mean big burly shoulders....
Tinker

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: bbelle
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:15 AM

Just a big stick, with which to beat the bushes. Learned this from my father. But I would still rather ride on some big burley guy's shoulders ...

moonjen

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Tinker
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:00 AM

Okay Moonjen,
What's a snake stick? I'm visualizing a forked walking stick. Decades in the woods and I've never seen a snake I had to worry about before. Then again there is always the shoulder ride technique.....
Tinker

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: bbelle
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:49 PM

Charlie ... thanks for the reminder about flashlights!

BTW ... having lived in this area of Maryland, many moons ago, snakes (copperheads) can be a problem. So, if you trampling through the "grassy field" you might think about cutting a "snake" stick. Me, I'm going to find some really sturdy guy to let me ride on his shoulders ...

moonjen

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 09:21 AM

Flashlights useful. Most of the campus is a grassy field, with a few trees, and a last-quarter moon overhead later in the evening.

Camp Ramblewood has more chairs with backs than Prince William Forest Park (last year's location).

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: bbelle
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 12:16 AM

JAB ... Bed linens, blankets, pillow, towells.

A coffee mug is a good idea (glad you reminded me).

Folding stool is nice.

Comfortable clothes. Layers are good.

Colorful jammies, in case you have to traipse around the camp at night.

Oh, and be prepared to drive off and forget part of what you brought.

Looking forward to meeting you ...

moonjen

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Ferrara
Date: 11 Oct 00 - 11:46 PM

There will be a letter going out any day now (we hope) telling what to bring.

If Mr. Offer or anyone else can find last year's pre-Getaway thread, it had very extensive and complete suggestions for what to bring. I tried to find it but the 'Cat is not in the mood to cooperate (just like a cat!)

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 11 Oct 00 - 10:08 PM

Refresh:

I still am wondering what to bring. Do we need coffee mugs ? Lanterns ? Pillows ? Clothes ? bed lines or sleeping bags ? folding chairs ? What else ?

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Ferrara
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 01:33 PM

I started a new thread for the latest program updates, but forgot to put "Getaway" in the title. New thread is here.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 12:55 PM

Hey Everyone:

At long last the stars are aligned, my foot is starting to heal, there are no conflicting workt trips. I'm Coming to the GETAWAY!!!!

I dropped my application off at Jennifer Woods' house yesterday (The advantage of living a mile away from "folk epicenter" with the highest concentration per square mile of folk enthusiasts on his continent!).

I still can't drive legally so I am looking for someone with room for me and my stuff (duffle, washtub bass, banjo, and autoharp) that can give me a lift. I am taking Friday off and can go up anytime. However, I need to get back sometime late Sunday night. I will glady share gas costs, etc. (JudyO ?)

If that doesn't work out, I may be able to use my wife's car and will need people to help drive it up and back. So if you need a ride and are willing to drive an old 91 Toyota Camry let me know too.

Since I have never been before what should I bring other than my voice, other instruments, song books, a tape recorder (do people mind if others tape the workshops?), and clothes?

Last year I planned to go, and then had to attend a professional conference instead. I can't wait.

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:17 AM

Just a reminder that if you haven't yet registered, and you're planning to come, the time to register is NOW! The camp needs to know how many meals to prepare, and the FSGW's lodging czar needs to do rooming logistics.

We can promise two-and-a-half to three days of intense music-making, good food and great company.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: momnopp
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 10:02 PM

Howdy, all. I just saw another stalwarth FSGW member and occassional Mudcatter (Jennifer, wife of Songster Bob)today at the Irish Festival in Gaithersburg, MD who wanted to make sure my son, Dylan and I would be there (of course we will be).

I will have room for one or possibly two extra bodies in my car. I could either give JAB a ride or pick someone up from BWI (it's very much on the way).

Of course, maybe I should just rent a minivan and drive a boatload of people :-)

We'll be heading up Friday evening after I get off work and returning late Sunday afternoon.

Zap me a message if you're interested. Given the number of people from this area who will be going, I don't think finding a ride from BWI will be too difficult...

Cheers,

JudyO

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Ferrara
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 02:31 AM

Dani et al, no listing of workshops yet. Technically I'm only supposed to include people who have already registered. But so many people register at the last minute that we would never have a full program if I did that.

I've been up to my ears in selling my mom's house and getting our son off to college, so tomorrow is the target date to get organized and really get to work ha ha.

Please, people, if you're planning to come, PM me or e-mail me. Give me an idea of how likely you are to make it. If you have workshop ideas, let me know. Also what kind of music you do, and whether you're experienced in performing in front of people or teaching something. And whether or not you'd like to be on the program. Brag about yourself a little if you think it's justified.

One thing that was VERY helpful last year: a couple of people e-mailed me with info about other mudcatters who were coming. If you know someone who should be on the program, please let me know, and say why you think so! It's easier to brag on someone else than on one's self.

We have a very complicated agenda in setting up this program. There are types of music that have to be included or folks will be disappointed, etc; we have to balance different kinds of performers and topics; we have to match sessions with the space available; we know that certain types of event aren't usually well attended; etc. So please be understanding if we don't schedule a workshop or concert that you would like to see. Just remember those magic words, "Good, Though!" and consider that next year *you* could get stuck being program chairman.

I plan to set up a web page listing the sessions that are already set up. I'll keep updating it. Once it's set up (maybe by the end of the week ?... I've never done one but I'll try...)I'll put a notice here.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 11:04 PM

Well geez Jim, I'm sorry to hear your news. On the other hand, your banjo could be getting a great workout!!! Just do all they tell you and try for patience......Yeah, I know that's not too easy, but try anyway! Shift that banjo to the other knee and take care of yourself.

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 09:10 PM

Well, again the fates are conspiring to make my coming to the Getaway difficult. Last Saturday I fell and broke my foot! Since then I've had to keep it up, and only was able to get a cast for it on Thursday. It seems that it is a bad break, and It may take several months to heal. The Orhtepedic Surgeon used the word "shattered".

In three weeks I go back and then he may put a walking cast on it. At that time I'll be able to determine if I can come to the Getaway at all. If I am able to make it I won't be able to drive, and may be looking for a ride from someone in the Silver Spring Area.

Thanks in advance.

JAB

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Susan of DT
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 08:33 PM

from dick:
There's a classic story about the game warden who was informed that old Zeb was dynamiting fish (unsportsmanlike and illegal. He grabbed his canoe and headed out to where the old feller was collecting his floating dinner.

"Now I caught you, Zeb!" he cried out. Zeb calmly grabbed another stick of dynamite from his pocket, lit the fuse and handed it to the surprised warden. "Say warden...do you want to argue or to fish?"

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Dani
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 07:23 PM

I haven't had my coffee yet, but did I miss where there might be a listing of workshops yet? Or is it still open for suggestions.

Is it time to start talking about caravanning yet?!

Dani (who'd better get registered)

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:54 AM

Well, my friends, it is looking better by the minute. Due to a legal snag, I may not be working for the campaign after all. If that holds, and I think it will, then I will be able to come. I think that two of my bandmates may come as well.........YYYYYEEEEEEEHHHHHAAAAHHHHHH.

Mick

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 02:19 PM

Hand me down my dyn-o-mite
'Cause I'm gonna blow up some fish tonight
With the fuse lit
Tie it to a brick with the fuse lit
Row ashore
With the fuse lit
Oh she wants a demo man...

Sorry - silly mood. Dan, I really hope you and Bonnie can make it. I enjoyed the heck out of listening to both of you last year!

Mick, I hope you know how much I'll miss you if you don't make it. There just ain't no hug like a Big Mick hug, and I'd really like to see what you're like when you're not sick!

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 02:13 PM

naaww...in Pogo comic strip, years ago...Grundoon, the woodchuck chile, was observed calling fish by kneeling by the pond and hummming..."grsssssss"......worked like a charm...;>)

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 12:52 PM

Actually, Mick and Jeri, the most efficient method of catching fish in a pond is dynamite. One stick tied to a brick usually does the trick. It does have an effect on the fish which renders them unable to swim afterwords however. Best to wait with that until the weekend's almost over.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:14 AM

OK - enough with the "personal" conversation - the rest of us want to play! ;-) Why not find a schooner that's not being used, load it up and plop it in the pond? We can all see how shanties are supposed to be sung in between bouts of fishing. Are there fishing shanties? "Way, troll away, we'll troll away, Joe?" We non-fishers will be glad to help...

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:02 AM

No, Mick, let's both bring our bass boats to that tiny pond by the dining hall.

All the best,
Dan

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 08:52 AM

Heck no, buddy. Those are "Let's go catch some fish and enjoy the craic" words. And I think I have an insulated sleeve for the daypack that holds to can of the Guinness just nicely............

Mick

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:19 PM

Now Charlie, I not only trolled the pond at Prince William but extracted the fish individually for inspection and returned them to their native habitat.

Are those figting (whoops... where's the "h") words Mick?

All the best,
Dan

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:12 PM

Liam's Brother, if I make it this year I am bringing a spinning rod and some spinners. It's you and me on the hike to the river/lake. Waddya say?

Mick

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 05:26 PM

Knowing Liam's Brother, he's talking about fishing. He brought his rod to the last Getaway, and trolled the ponds in Prince William Forest Park.

At Ramblewood, there's a tiny pond on the campus downhill from the Dining Hall that I believe is stocked, and a short tromp through the woods to the Susquehanna River just below the Conowingo Dam (between it and the Chesapeake Bay). A longer hike will take you to the lake on the upstream side of the Conowingo Dam.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 04:26 PM

Whatever it is, it beats the holy "h" out of fishing.

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 04:20 PM

What's "fising"?

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 28 Aug 00 - 09:28 AM

Let's get serious! How's the fising at this place?

All the best,
Dan

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: folk1234
Date: 26 Aug 00 - 02:16 PM

S'paw,what more can I say. Maybe I'll ride my trike.
Bill D, thanks. I'm working on a ride now. If that doesn't happen I'll contact you.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GUEST,Bill D...again on kids PC..(testing 750mghz)
Date: 26 Aug 00 - 12:22 PM

ah, catspaw...I have a better idea...YOU could come and spend all day doing a shuttle between Dulles & BWI and the Getaway!..*grin* ....you could buy one of them wireless satellite Palm PCs and keep up a constant stream of communications between everyone, and post here too... THEN you could.....(see...you're not the only one who has ideas...;>)...

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 05:43 PM

See folk....now there's an idea. Why not drive to Dulles and take a shuttle flight to BWI? Bill could possibly pick you up, but if not, you could take the Metro back to Dulles and get your car.

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GUEST,Bill D..on kid's new computer
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 05:16 PM

I will keep an eye on the BWI situation...we live in MD about 45 min from BWI, so it is just 'possible' we could be emergency backup if easy rides don't materialize easily...(we usually go early in the day)...I do suspect there are plenty of local folk who could help with the out-of-town visitors

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: folk1234
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 03:33 PM

Hmmmm? I'll have to think on that, S'paw. I truly r'speck your opinion. Maybe, ya' think should I fly from one of dem eas' coast places instead?

lostinthe airportwithmyguitarandnoplacetogo'ceptintoramblewoods

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 11:16 AM

Ya know folk, if you fly from the west coast, it makes for a long drive home from the airport.

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: folk1234
Date: 25 Aug 00 - 11:12 AM

Hey, Kin-of-the-moon. When are you arriving at BWI? I'm looking at a SWA flight from OKC arriving at 2:40pm. I haven't made flight reservations yet, but I have registered for the Getaway. I, too, will need a ride from BWI on Fri and back on Mon am.
Ironically, you can fly from the west coast to BWI for $220, but it costs $348 from OKC! It will be worth it, I'm sure.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 04:15 PM

Refresh because Kendall can't do a search..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM

I hope y'all have a great weekend. I wish I could attend but I'll be in OK that weekend. I'll look forward to the news of the event on the forum, though.

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 05:00 AM

Refresh - I updated Charlie's message so you can now access the registration form from his message - up there where the big red print is.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Ferrara
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 11:57 PM

GETAWAY PROGRAM (Book I)

For my sins, I've been asked to be Getaway program chair again this year; mudcatter Lorraine is helping with the job as well, bless her kind heart. This means we'll provide the line-up of workshops, mini-concerts and other planned activities.

We are somewhat familiar with the talents and interests of the people who came last year, and will contact many of them again as soon as we can get our act together. A number of those folks did wonderful concerts and workshops.

There are also a couple of 'Catters who were NOT on the program no matter how politely they were asked, including a guy whose initials are Big Mick, who had better be on the program this year or risk being pelted with rotten potatoes.... (You see, Mick, Bill and I DID keep that potato around for a year ....)

We'd very much like to include other Mudcatters in the program this year if possible.

If you have an idea for a workshop you'd like to lead or attend, or if you'd be willing to do a half hour's mini-concert, let me or Lorraine know.

If you're volunteering for a concert, give us a little idea of where you usually perform (song circles, local open mikes, paid gigs etc.) and what kind of music you do. Among other things it helps us know where and when to schedule you to avoid conflicts.

Please note: mini-concerts are NOT restricted to people who play professionally!!! The amazing quality and quantify of fine non-professional talent at the Getaway is part of its charm.

Also note, if you aren't up to a half hour set, there's an open mike concert each night (one song per performer or group) with sign-up sheets posted in the dining hall.

We found last year that there were plenty of volunteers for the mini concerts, but we needed more workshop ideas and leaders. It's fun. At the Getaway a workshop is participatory: the leader states the topic, does a song or whatever, then invites folks from the audience to contribute. That's what gives the Getaway its wonderful atmosphere of sharing and excitement.

By the way, Dick Greenhaus e-mailed me with a half dozen ideas for workshops last year. It was most helpful! -- So don't hesitate to make suggestions. We'll pick and choose from the suggestions based on our estimate of what will get the best reception from the attendees.

You can PM or e-mail me: [e-mail]

By the way, we'll almost certainly have another Mudcat workshop, maybe one each on Saturday and Sunday if there are enough 'catters attending. We couldn't get around to everybody last year. So even if you're shy, polish up one or two songs for that...

Looking forward to hearing from you. Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 12:26 PM

Pre-emptive answer about nearby camping: While Maryland's Susquehanna State Park is nearby, the campground there closes sometime in September, and won't be available by the October time of the Getaway.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: FSGW 2000 PART DEUX
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 09:48 AM

OOPs. I just saw that my question on Tent Camping was already answered. Yes, There is tent camping. No, you don't get a discount if you camp in a tent.

JAB