BS: In every thread someone has to be last!

Subject: ADD: MURRUMBIDGEE WATER
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 09:11 AM

the murrumbidgee is the river for me. and here are the words to a beautiful song by John Warner about this great Australian river..

MURRUMBIDGEE WATER

Born in the highland snows,
Wild in her youth's descending,
Swiftly she fills and grows
Out on her floodplains, winding and bending,
Feeding the towering gums,
Bush in creek and gully,
Sharing her bounties wide,
Spreading soil in plain and valley.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

Over her years of floods,
Current twisting wild and strong,
Children she made in the land,
Creek and anabranch, pond and billabong.
Bright on the wide floodplain
Glints the rippling water,
Proudly side by side,
Flow the mother and the daughter.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

We have known the drought, we have seen her anger,
Hurling trees in her rage, we've borne thirst and we've borne hunger.
Yet for us who seek, beauty waits in hiding,
In some shaded pools wait the fruits of her providing.

Silver mist like hair,
As the day is dawning,
Marks the river's way
As we hunt on a winter's morning,
Duck and cod from the stream,
Fruit and fungus, plant and seed,
Kangaroo on the plain,
See, she gives us all we need.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

© John Warner 25.05.98

...............................................
Written by John Warner for the song and verse cycle, Yarri of Wiradjuri, which tells of the heroism of Aboriginal Australians in saving the lives of white settlers when the original township of Gundagai was destroyed by flood in 1852. Murrumbidgee Water - the second song in the cycle - celebrates the river and its importance to the indigenous people and establishes the Murrumbidgee River and Morley's Creek as the Mother and the Daughter

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 10:38 AM

Now that's what you call poetry!
Giol

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 11:51 PM

did you think a measley 36 hour gap would allow you to avoid 2nd lastness?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 03:27 AM

Post 1055!!!!

Wow! I feel so fulfilled!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 05:34 AM

Whoops! I guess THIS is post 1055.




Delayed gratification.





..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 06:11 AM

...the best kind.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 06:45 AM

(new sonnet posted on Care&Feeding of Muses Thread...

and for you all...

Sonnet 14/04/04                                       CMVI

Can springtime offer me more than I find
In dreams of you? I do not hope to see
A flower to match lips, nor one to be
As soft as look in eyes. I have in mind
Rebirth enough for world: If you are kind,
I will to heavens reach, and brush your cheek
With lips. If only I might hear you speak
Soft words of hope, I would to past be blind.
But, dream does not fill arms, nor lend the gift
Of sharing your sweet looks. I remain far
From heart's desire: I must from your words sift
What hope I can. You remain distant star,
To guide my heart: For now, your smile will lift
My spirits up, and melancholy bar.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:27 AM

Bruce I hate to be a Phillistine [Phyllis Stein ?] but I for one am sonnet satiated, and thought you were overdoing them to the extent of egotism. However to post the same one to two different threads is extracting the urine. Or is it an effort to bore us away so you can be last?
Giok
[That'll make me popular won't it?]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:34 AM

Giok;

I posted a different one to the other thread- that one is CMXX, my latest. This is a continuing stream in numerical order.

And isn't the intent to be last?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:37 AM

And if this is not the thread for blatent, unbounded egotism, what is?

Everything to excess! Moderation is for monks.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 09:22 AM

Giok:

please see my post of 22 Jun 04 - 07:16 AM


My sonnets are like smoking- an addiction. But you have the choice to not read them. Feel free to coment on them, if you have anything constructive to say. I do try to keep it to one a day, unless I am provoked.

8-{E


Ellenpoly,

re delayed gratification- You might plan to attend next year's Getaway...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 10:37 PM

I'm back.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 03:53 AM

Who he?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 05:31 AM

We've missed you Blackcatter!!!

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 06:05 AM

Sonnet 16/04/04                            CMVII

I brush my muse's lips, and touch her cheek,
With thought of her soft skin. How can I reach
To touch her heart? What can I say, to teach
The pleasure her smile gives? My words are weak,
Compared to strength of passion my dreams seek:
All I desire would only give me cause
To want for more: Yet, longing for her draws
My verse beyond myself, to heaven speak.
I run my fingers through her hair, to hold
Some of her softness: Can I hope to feel
Her gentle dreams? I would in arms enfold,
And keep her near, if only dreams were real.
Should I think that I might of my hopes mold
Dream strong enough to her heart hope to steal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 07:50 AM

btw, I have been informed by SRS that this is a music forum, and poetry is not allowed here. I guess I will have to call all my sonnets "little songs" that are looking for tunes.

Better be careful what you say- if you upset SRS, we might be forbidden to discuss politics, or chimps' love lives...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 08:10 AM

I thought this was a BS thread. Where better to expose poetry?

j

sorry if this came three times. My computer seems to be misbehaving.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 08:23 AM

42:

So did I, but I have been told otherwise.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 12:31 PM

So what's the tune that fits a sonnet? There must be one. & BB - you've been around here long enough to ingore every suggestion you wish to ignore.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 12:36 PM

I have no idea what tune will fit- any ideas?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 01:39 PM

Over the Hills and Faraway?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 02:09 PM

No, that works better with tetrameter lines...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 06:45 AM

I'm a bit confused. Just who on earth said you couldn't post poetry??? From past threads, this is certainly something long-standing around here.

Are you sure you didn't get up somebody's nose*, BB?

..xx..e

(PS-*It's an English expression, by the by, and one I thoroughly love.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 07:21 AM

Ellenpoly,

It seems like I made the mistake of thinking that SRS was an adult.

" a cyber weed which had entangled itself through the threads like poison ivy - streaking through from thread to thread like a stubborn, determined particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse.

Poetry. Now, she wasn't completely averse to verse - she was even known to mutter of few rhymes herself on occasion, when the mood took her. But - a rhyme attack. How long would it last? It was thread creep of a new and sinister nature - the very nature of the site was being highjacked - this is a music site, she thought, not a poetry sharing forum.

Was this really a poet, she thought, or is it a political incursion by a particularly dastardly form of trolling - destroying the vibrant nature of the site by attempting to bore us all into slinking away. she noticed how many people hadjust walked away from particlar threads.

Now she beleived in freedome of speech - well, once she did. But she had decided to go to her local MP and lobby for restrictions on rhyme. It was all too much."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 07:31 AM

so, now for a little song....


Sonnet 24/04/04                                       CMVIII

Shall I whisper my passions in her ears
To tell what I would of this sweet one ask?
Should I admit I cannot control fears
That she might find cause to take me to task?
I am a fool, to think she does not know
The longing in heart for a gentle touch.
Yet, do I wish to all of longings show,
With reason to think that I care too much?
But I must give my soul, to one who brings
Such hope to all my dreams. I owe her more
Than words might pay: Hers is the voice that sings
The hymns that of my future form the core.
She is my muse, and friend: How might I share
My lusts, and not lose all for which I care?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 08:54 AM

at the risk (about 100% I figure) of looking foolish...who(or what) the heck is an SRS? and why should she/it/they care how many catters cling to this thread?

I'm confused...probably not for the last time.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:03 AM

SRS is Stilly River Sage - who seems to not like my verse, after finding out that I do not agree politically.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:11 AM

bb, i think you may have jumped to a conclusion there - have you seen a recent post to that thread?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:24 AM

the one of 02 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM or the one of 02 Jul 04 - 09:30 PM ?

and this thread was not the first attack SRS has made on me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:29 AM

Try 03 Jul 04 - 09:45 AM.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 11:11 AM

I think you're barking up the wrong tree BB, I'm pretty sure SRS didn't start the thread. What's more it was a good natured troll in my opinion, and you took the bait, and got caught badly.
Giok [Beware the Jabberwock my son!]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 11:21 AM

No way to tell, as the poster hide as Guest. I cannot trust SRS on anything, from the past experience I have had, so ... But the posts of 02 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM and the one of 02 Jul 04 - 09:30 PM lead me to believe that SRS had a hand in it. I could be wrong- but I do not consider personal attacks on me by anyone to be reasonable. My opinions and facts can be challanged, my verse can be criticised- but on the basis of themselves, not who I am , the color of my skin, or my religion.

If someone feels that the chat threads should be restricted to music topics, let them make that case. If not, this was a direct attack on my right to post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 12:14 PM

Giok,

In any case, my original comment was

"Of the 160+ threads today, perhaps 6 have any poetry, other than song lyrics. Do I smell a troll, hiding as a guest? "

Is there some problem with pointing out a fact? It seems like it, here on Mudcat.

I then replied to your comment
" note that a certain BB is feeling paranoid, he should only feel that way if he is being got at. OK OK, feel free to be paranoid!"

with

"Giok,

I object to nasty, small-minded, mean-spirited trolls who object to anyone having any discussions they do not approve of. If that makes me paranoid, oh well. "

At this point, SRS stepped in. I have been previously attacked for having the unreasonable tendency to ask that my sources be treated the same as those of the people trying to refute me. These attacks included derision of my poetry, not on it's merits, but because I had written them.

I have made no attempt to limit other's comments, or postings. Perhaps you feel that it is appropriate to deny specific individuals of the right to post here because you disagree with them, but I do not.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:25 AM

I've never met a charming llama but I live in constant hope.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:30 AM

Could it be me, perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Poetry Archivist
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:51 PM

DESCRIPTIVE JOTTINGS OF LONDON
by William McGonagall

As I stood upon London Bridge and viewed the mighty throng
Of thousands of people in cabs and 'busses rapidly whirling along,
All furiously driving to and fro,
Up one street and down another as quick as they could go:

Then I was struck with the discordant sound of human voices there,
Which seemed to me like wild geese cackling in the air:
And the river Thames is a most beautiful sight,
To see the steamers sailing upon it by day and by night.

And the Tower of London is most gloomy to behold,
And the crown of England lies there, begemmed with precious stones and gold;
King Henry the Sixth was murdered there by the Duke of Glo'ster,
And when he killed him with his sword he called him an impostor.

St. Paul's Cathedral is the finest building that ever I did see;
There's nothing can surpass it in the city of Dundee,
Because it's most magnificent to behold
With its beautiful dome and spire glittering like gold.

And as for Nelson's Monument that stands in Trafalgar Square,
It is a most stately monument I most solemnly declare,
And towering defiantly very high,
Which arrests strangers' attention while passing by.

Then there's two beautiful water-fountains spouting up very high,
Where the weary travellers can drink when he feels dry;
And at the foot of the monument there's three bronze lions in grand array,
Enough to make the stranger's heart throb with dismay.

Then there's Mr Spurgeon, a great preacher, which no one dare gainsay
I went to hear him preach on the Sabbath-day.
And he made my heart feel light and gay
When I heard him preach and pray.

And the Tabernacle was crowded from ceiling to floor,
And many were standing outside the door;
He is an eloquent preacher, I solemnly declare,
And I was struck with admiration as I on him did stare.

Then there's Petticoat Lane I venture to say,
It's a wonderful place on the Sabbath day;
There wearing apparel can be bought to suit the young or old
For the ready cash-- silver, coppers, or gold.

Oh! mighty city of London! you are wonderful to see,
And thy beauties no doubt fill the tourist's heart with glee;
But during my short stay, and while wandering there,
Mr Spurgeon was the only man I heard speaking proper English I do declare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:19 AM

shudder....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:40 AM

ditto...+ wince!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:28 AM

and I thought we had a special thread for that one...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:31 AM

Oh. Man, does my head flippin hurt. Is it Tuesday?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:55 AM

almost.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 01:15 PM

Sunday was nice, the next day was muggy, followed by Tueggy Weggy, and Thuggy.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Poetry Archivist
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:55 PM

BEAUTIFUL NEWPORT ON THE BRAES O' THE SILVERY TAY
by William McGonagall

Bonnie Mary, the Maid o' the Tay,
Come! Let's go, and have a holiday
In Newport, on the braes o' the silvery Tay,
'Twill help to drive dull care away.

The scenery there is most enchanting to be seen,
Especially the fine mansions with their shrubbery green;
And the trees and ivy are beautiful to view
Growing in front of each stately home in the avenue.

There the little birds and beautiful butterflies
Are soaring heavenwards almost to the skies,
And the busy bees are to be seen on the wing,
As from flower to flower they hummingly sing,

As they gather honey all the day,
>From flowery gardens of Newport on the braes o' the Tay.
And as we view the gardens our hearts will feel gay
After being pent up in the workshop all the day.

Then there's a beautiful spot near an old mill,
Suitable for an artist to paint of great skill,
And the trees are arched o'erhead, lovely to be seen,
Which screens ye from the sunshine's glittering sheen.

Therefore, holiday makers, I'd have ye resort
To Newport on the braes o' the Tay for sport,
And inhale the pure air with its sweet perfume,
Emanating from the flowery gardens of Newport and the yellow broom.

And when bright Sol sinks in the West
You'll return home at night quite refreshed,
And dream in your beds of your rambles during the day
Along the bonnie braes o' the silvery Tay.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:11 PM

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,A poetry lover
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:59 AM

New sonnets, out of order

          v

Blue Bonnets o'er the Border.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:12 AM

poetry will never be the same since the death of the Songbird of Saskatchewan, Sarah Binks.
Her words will linger in our hearts long after all the poetry critics are gone.

"By then perhaps in unknown grave,
By burdock blown and boot betrod,
I'll lie a full seven and a half feet deep,
And push the daisies through the sod."

and that's the truth.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 11:53 AM

in the thread on Care & Feeding of Muses, we have determined that some muses like chocolate ( cake, at least) and some like carrots. This might be a better thread to continue on those lines...


Any contributions on Muse-food?

Single malt?

caviar?

good company?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 11:57 AM

I have muse-ly for breakfast sometimes.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:17 PM

and who wants 1100?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:24 PM

I think I'll have it.