BS: In every thread someone has to be last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 06:02 AM

Kissing's great.

Wait a min. All threads not closed can be added to.

Ha! A flaw in the thread title.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 01:27 PM

Sonnet 04/04/06                           MLII

Can heart find rest after hearing its muse,
While knowing she is gone? Can dream return,
Without her words? Does hope for smile excuse
Not taking chance to her desires learn?
Are echoes now enough to ease the pain
That losing muse has left? She was the light
To give dreams life: How can heart hope to gain
Vision to hold to soul, and sorrows fight?
Will there be chance to longings for her hold,
Or must desires remain ever ignored?
Is there no hope that words have feelings told,
And no future where past might be restored?
All future heart might feel, and those dreams see,
Will not replace that hope she once gave me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 01:29 PM

and to keep LH from being on the wrong post...


Ballad (32)

Tell me, sweet muse, what you desire,
That I may find a way
To give you moon, or stars, or fire
That would warm soul today.

Give me some quest, or set me goal,
To prove how much I care.
Let me show just how deep in soul
You've touched, that I love dare.

Let laughter warm me, and your eyes
Provide reason to live.
Share your dreams with me, and make wise
One who would knowledge give.

Might I dream of my arms around
Treasure beyond mere gold?
Can I hope that I now have found
A part of heart to hold?

All I seek in visions I find
In what I see of you.
All I dream of within my mind
Is to your sweet soul view.

Send me a token of concern,
That hope is not in vain:
Send me your dream, that I might earn
That you my muse remain.

21 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:22 PM

What do I desire?

Well, a new 1/32 scale Ki-61 Hien would be nice. Preferably by Hasegawa.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:25 PM

Sonnet 279 of 281 to my last muse... Sorry, LH.

Sonnet 04/04/06                            MLIII

In time, tears will not form when I recall
Our conversations, and your words. You gave
Far more than I had earned: Could I not fall
For one whose inspiration still dreams save?
I cannot regret my concern: I hold
Your smile as precious. Still, perhaps I sought
Beyond hope's bound. I have only heart told:
I just return the love that you have taught.
Yet, should desire to hold you in my arms
Be such a crime, that dreams and hope must die?
What part of loving muse is it that harms
One I wish only well? Can hope not try?
I will not ask for more than that you tell
If you are loved, and all still remains well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:18 PM

That last one was a little too arcane for my taste.

Could we have a poem about the goldrush or something instead? Something with fistfights, wild women, high adventure, and heavy drinking?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:34 PM

nope...



Ballad (33)

With dancing leaves beneath his feet,
A mage treads chill, and dark.
His thoughts on muse, his dreams hopes meet
In light that her eyes spark.

She remains beyond reach of arms,
Yet held within his heart.
A dream, or real? This vision's charms
Offer far more than Art.

Mage cannot from path turn aside,
Nor fail to for muse wait.
He sees her, with eyes open wide,
And knows he's found his fate.

Muse is more than she seems- Both source
And focus of his lines.
She is sweet maid, who holds the force
Of Love, and heart confines.

He cannot ask that she remain,
Nor that he visit make:
But though he does not his hopes gain,
She all of dreams awake.

With stars as witness, Mage declares
He has found his desire:
This muse, whose smile his heart repairs,
And eyes his soul inspires.

24 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

Please recall my post of

05 May 04 - 04:46 AM (#1208501)
Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

You don't scare me, BB. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

Odd numbers!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:43 PM

Ballad (34)

Mage offers muse fair chains to bind,
With silver and with gold,
His heart, to dreams of her, and find
What he wishes to hold.

Around her wrist one length might go
To remind when she writes:
The other touching neck to show
Where dream has set hope's sights.

He cannot change: He needs to send
Some token of his heart.
Far more would not his dreams defend,
Though he would with all part.

She is his muse, his heart's desires
Made real and brought to earth.
When thought of thought of smile inspires,
How can he send her worth?

All mage can do is dream, and seek
To tell what his hopes see.
He does not kiss, nor hear her speak;
Still, he would not heart free.

She gives him vision, and the light
To show what time might bring:
A quiet talk, a star-lit night,
And chance to hear muse sing.

04 Nov. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:55 PM

Did you write all these?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:55 PM

Ballad (35)

Can season give me gift, to win
The chance to visit muse?
Should I hope to desires pin
On what friend's friend might choose?

I cannot ignore even chance
To share more than these lines.
I want to see stars in eyes dance,
And seek your hopes' designs.

I do not sleep, for dreams of you
That fill the cold and dark.
My visions warm, yet can't renew
The fire that your words spark.

Snow covers all, and offers chill
But solitary sight.
All stands alone: Hope cannot fill
This monochrome, cold night.

Yet, I still look to dream, and find
The light to guide my way:
You give to soul your smile, to bind
My heart to future day.

My angel sweet, my muse divine,
How can I your words earn?
I would give all to make you mine:
With you, my hopes return.

06 Dec. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:59 PM

LH, Of course.

I have 1055 sonnets and 40 ballads, as of now... plus maybe 200 other poems.   

I do have sources of more sonnets, for when I run out here... I've been studying, and writing, sonnets since 1972.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:04 PM

I see. That's...unusual.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:16 PM

Each of us is unique, in some way.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:19 PM

but it does help to have a muse....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:25 PM

Yes, it does.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:31 PM

Ballad (36)

How might I cheer my muse, and bring
A smile to her sweet lips?
Shall I hope that my words might sing
Vision that her dream sips?

How can I ease concerns, or soothe
The ache of work, or heart?
Can I the roughness of world smooth
Or journeys to joy chart?

I do not know her present needs:
I simply know I care.
How can words that she only reads
Give comfort, or heart share?

Shall I whisper my love, and send
A volume of request?
Or do my pleas annoy, and lend
A sadness to her breast?

I long to wrap her in my arms,
And all of sorrow steal.
Yet, I must fear: Do hopes lend harms
To vision now made real?

She is heart's guide, but might I show
A path, to desires find?
I cannot ask for more, or know
What hopes she keeps in mind.

17 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: clairerise
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 12:31 PM

to ask a silly question maybe. is there supposed to be an end?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:36 PM

no.


sonnet 280 of 281...



Sonnet 06/04/06                           MLIV

Will dawn follow this darkness? Will I find
Another muse to offer smile or dream?
I search, but in her absence hope is blind:
There is not light enough for tears to gleam.
Stars give no guidance: I can see no spark,
Nor beacon fire to show my heart the way.
I do not know if caring has left mark
Upon me, that I cannot desires say.
What can I do, to inspiration hold?
Where can I find a future? Will hope give
Some chance to fulfill dream? Is wish too bold,
That I should never let such longings live?
Far better to have cared for muse now lost,
Than not know love, no matter what the cost.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 02:25 PM

Sonnet 30/01/03                   DCCLXXXIV

Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire. Why do I dream, in dark
And silence? I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark.
I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?
What hope had I to ever two hearts link?
I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest. I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met.
Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 02:44 PM

oh, yes. LH wanted the odd posts...


Ballad (37)

Is mage now worthy of his muse?
How can he know, for sure?
His efforts cannot questions lose,
Nor hopes his dreams assure.

He spends dark nights alone and cold,
In study, seeking wit.
He finds no spell to her heart hold,
Nor words to feelings fit.

All he can do is wait, and see
If he has earned her smile:
He wonders if muse might agree
To share the night a while.

He sees the moon, but knows it's glow
Reflects but her dreams' light:
The stars are gems that serve to show
That muse shares beauty's sight.

Can he place heart aside, and learn
All that his muse desires?
Can mind away from passions turn,
And think bare fact inspires?

She is far more than visions know,
And all that mage would need.
Yet, should he let his passions grow,
And not know where hopes lead?

18 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:15 PM

Sorry to butt in but I thought I'd already dealt with the thread question.

Thank you.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:16 PM

You had, but thanks for the chance to post again!

Ballad (38)

Might mage try to heal muse's heart
And give reason to smile?
Can he hope to from waiting part,
To place his dreams on trial?

He offers all to one who gives
The focus of his thought.
But, can he think that his dreams lives,
Or that hopes might be caught?

Mage sends muse tokens: Books, to show
That page past dreams preserve.
Will future some of his hopes know,
That words might praise deserve?

In dreaming, does he seek the source
Of his desire, or just
Let his emotions set the course,
And only passions trust?

Mage reaches out to muse, to hold
A part of heaven's light.
Yet, are his dreams now wise, or bold
To reach for one so bright?

All mage can know is that he seeks
One who touches his soul.
He cares not for the cost: Hope speaks,
And dream makes his heart whole.
                                                19 Jan. 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:25 PM

Sylvia's Mother is among the 20 worst songs of all time.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:29 PM

Compared to what? "Sylvia's Mother","I got stoned, and I missed it", "Roland the roadie and Gertrude the groupie", etc are a body of work that can not be so easily dismissed. Shel Silverstein was a lyric writer among the best the US has produced...

Now, IF Shatner had ever done a cover of it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:36 PM

http://www.houseoflyrics.com/d/artists/dr_hook

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:51 PM

It must be the wavelength they were on, I guess. I see song after song after song that I simply detested on that page you offer the link to. Argh! dreadful stuff. Gag me with a rubber toad.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:53 PM

What do you have against rubber toads?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:58 PM

http://behindthelyrics.net/browse/s/Shel_Silverstein

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

Oh Sahra Cynthia Sylvia Stout would not take the garbage out
She'd wash the dishes and scrub the pans cook the yams and spice the hams
And though her parents would scream and shout
She simply would not take the garbage out
And so it piled up to the ceilings coffee grounds potato peelings
Brown bananas and rotten peas chunks of sour cottage cheese
It filled the can it covered the floor it cracked the windows and blocked the door
With bacon rinds and chicken bones drippy ends of icecream cones
Prone pits peach pits orange peel gloppy glumps of cold oat meal
Pizza crust and withered greens soggy beans and tangerines
Crust of black burned buttered toast gristly bits of beefy roast
The garbage rolled on down the hall it raised the roof it broke the walls
I mean greesy napkins cookie crumbs blobs of gooey bubble gum
Cellophane from old baloney rubber blubbry macaroni
Peanut butter caced and dry curdled off milk and crusts of pie
Ridy melons dried up mustard eggs shells mixed with lemon custard
Cold french fries and rancid meat yellow lumps of cream of wheat
Uuh at last the garbage reached so high that finally it touched the sky
And none of her friends would come to play and all the neighbors moved away
And finally Sahra Cynthia Sylvia Stout said okay I'll take the garbage out
But then of course it was too late the garbage reached across the state
From New York to the Golden Gate and there in the garbage she did hate
Poor Sahra met an awful fate then I cannot right now relate
Because the hour is much too late
But children remember Sylvia Stout and always take the garbage out

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:16 PM

Kiss It Away
There´s a shadow on the sun I see it risin´
Kiss it away, Kiss it away
And there´s hurt down deep inside that I been hidin´
Kiss it away, Kiss it away
All the hard times we been through
We´d never mind them
We´d kiss ´em away, we´d just kiss ´em away
But now I´m lookin for the good times and I can´t find them
Guess we kissed them away, Must have kissed them away

Kiss away I keep thinkin´ the sun will shine once more
I´m never ready for the sudden rain
Don´t tell me I´m wrong, ´cause I been told
I feel so wet and cold
Come my pain

You keep hopin´ things´ll change and I keep tryin´
One of these days, maybe one of these days
But there´s a coldness in the air like somethin´ dyin'
Kiss it away, Come and kiss it away


http://www.nassio.com/silverstein/bio.html

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,hh
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 03:42 PM

peck Nile classified,traversal nonpersistent:valuables tabulations:- Tons of interesdting stuff!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 03:47 PM

sonnet 281 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 15/04/06                                 MLV

Can hope now be reborn, or will it fade
Without whisper from muse? Is there a chance
For dream, and heart's desire? Has soul been weighed,
And wanting found? Do my words lack romance?
Vision does not a future show, to give
Reason for other than more tears. In time,
Heart might some new light find, that dream might live,
Yet can another ever past muse mime?
Does desire for dream make me fool, to care
Unwanted? Are my longings less than real?
Was it too much, to think to starlight share
With one who has given dreams all they feel?
But for desire to always her smile earn,
I might just ask that muse my heart return.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 05:30 PM

And to every existing pile of dung, some fly must regularly return...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Jun 06 - 08:00 AM

Glad to see you back, LH...




Sonnet 282 of 287 to my last muse...


Sonnet 27/04/06                            MLVI

I do not own my muse: I am possessed
By longing for her gift. Will she words send,
Echoes of dream, or is silence the best
That heart might hope for, to my longings end?
I do not wish for freedom from the chain
Desire and dream have wound around my heart.
Yet, should heart under her spell still remain
When she has no need for my dreams to start?
I do not have reason to think that time
Will alter situation: All dreams feel
Cannot change past. Can I hope with my rhyme
To even echo of her whisper steal?
I know dream is not real, yet I will rest
Knowing I was, for a while, by muse blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 04:33 PM

took me a while to look that one up.

A Century of Immigration, 1820-1924
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 06:49 PM

My muse married another man and is now expecting a child. Good thing, actually...they suit each other quite well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 07:49 PM

sonnet 283 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 28/04/06                                  MLVIII

Is there reason to dream, when dreams are all
Heart can expect to hold? Can dream inspire
Without some hope? Will heart find one to call
Sweet muse, and dearest friend, if dreams desire?
Is there reason to care, when my concern
Appears unwanted? Should I spend my thought
Where I can never hope to my hopes earn,
Though I see in her eyes all I have sought?
Is there reason to live, without the chance
To hold the one heart loves within my arms?
What is purpose, without hope for romance,
Of words, and hopes, and dreams about her charms?
Without reasons, I must still let my heart
Acknowledge that to muse I owe my art.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:08 PM

"Is there reason to dream, when dreams are all
Heart can expect to hold?"

Hell, yeah! Sure there is.

"Can dream inspire
Without some hope? "

Nope. You need hope to get inspiration. And vice versa. They go together.


"Will heart find one to call
Sweet muse, and dearest friend, if dreams desire?"

Listen, bub, if yer lookin' to find a hot dame ya don't do it by askin' mealy-mouthed questions like that last one! Geez! Gimme a break. I think I need a drink after readin' that.

"Is there reason to care, when my concern
Appears unwanted?"

No! Ya sap! Forget about a dame if she don't want you.

"Should I spend my thought
Where I can never hope to my hopes earn,
Though I see in her eyes all I have sought?"

Boy...we got a hopeless case here, don't we?

"Is there reason to live, without the chance
To hold the one heart loves within my arms?"

Not for you there ain't. Go jump off a bridge and end the friggin' misery now, I say...

"What is purpose, without hope for romance,
Of words, and hopes, and dreams about her charms?"

Oh, brother. Get a real job and SHUT UP!

"Without reasons, I must still let my heart
Acknowledge that to muse I owe my art."

You owe yer art to the fact that yer a pansy. Yer momma didn't bring you up right. No dame in her right mind would spend five minutes on a guy like you. Go talk to Woody Allen, cos he might have some sympathy for you. I don't. Gaaaah! I need a strong drink. Now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:13 PM

Thank you for your... interesting.... commentary, and the chance to post another sonnet.


Sonnet 08/05/06                                  MLIX

Is this the time to seek an avatar
Of muse, to give what she no longer cares
To offer me? Must heart find some new star
To guide to one who might lend hope repairs?
It hurts to lose her smile and know I'll hold
My muse no further time. Dream cannot keep
The tears from falling: Her silence has told
So much, with nothing. Even my hopes weep.
Yet, should I shadow seek when she is still
Within the reach of dream? She did not tell
That I could not think of her: Has heart will
To dream without hope, still under her spell?
It does not matter: How can heart replace
The one who lights dream with thought of her face?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Jersey Joe Gorilla
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:24 PM

I gotta sympathize with Chongo on this one, pal. Yer drivin' a lot of apes to drink with this sappy sonnet stuff of yours. Consider gettin' a job in a grocery store or somethin' instead, that's my advice.

Maybe try platform shoes. Or a decent haircut.

There has gotta be a human female out there that's dumb enough to fall for this line of yours, but you might get to old fer it to do ya any good before you find her. That's my take on it.

- Jersey Joe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:27 PM

Glad you like my work. Here is some more...

Ballad (39)

Far more than questions fill my mind,
When with my muse I speak:
To her sweet charms I am not blind:
Only resolve is weak.

How can I tell her all I seek,
When she is beyond touch?
How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?

Perhaps I care too much, to think
I might her tears remove.
Yet am I fool, to our dreams link
That she might hopes approve?

I do not want to make concern
An act in verse's play:
I need to show that I would earn
All of love, and friend stay.

Yet, can I be more than a fool,
To ask without the chance
To know if she might think me cruel
To try to win romance?

I cannot help but feel desire
Though cannot taste her lips.
Her words, and dreams burn soul like fire,
And passion my heart strips.

03 Nov 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 09:38 PM

"How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?"

You've already said waaay too much, Roscoe...

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:06 PM

I have so missed the zoo. I hope you've been sharing the sonnets somewhere BB.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,skivee
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:52 PM

..So then the bishop sez," Not likely, mate. But what did she do with all the melons?"
Sorry, looks like I walked into the wrong room.
I'll just leave, then.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 06 - 01:07 PM

sonnet 285 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 18/05/06                              MLX

Have I a reason now to care, when all
I hear from her is silence? Should I seek
To know of present dreams? Dare my words speak
About hope, or desire? Must my heart fall,
For having found this muse? I cannot call,
Yet need to know that she is well: I hold
To memory of smile. All I have told
Still remains true: Thought of her hopes install.
Dream does not fill need to her present know,
Nor what future might bring. She does not share
Worries, nor verse: How can I concerns show?
Heart aches, wanting to show that I still care,
But without chance or hope that hope might grow.
If only she for past had time to spare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 06 - 02:16 PM

Chongo,

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for rhetorical effect rather than for the purpose of getting an answer. ("How many times do I have to tell you to stop walking into the house with mud on your shoes?").

A rhetorical question seeks to encourage reflection within the listener as to what the answer to the question (at least, the answer implied by the questioner) must be. When a speaker declaims, "How much longer must our people endure this injustice?" or "Will our company grow or shrink?", no formal answer is expected. Rather, it is a device used by the speaker to assert or deny something"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 07:40 PM

?