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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 23 Jul 11 - 11:42 AM I think there is a world of difference between an angry post and murdering teenagers in cold blood. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:58 AM Are we not men? If you cut us do we not bleed? Do you not feel that you are right? Are you not part of the human condition? Have you never posted predatory sentiments? The poem applies to everyone here but goes beyond all of us and deeper than you suspect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:41 AM Don, I don't think it is fair to compare anyone on the mudcat.org to that man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:33 AM I know that YOU know you're right. You know a man who knew he was right. He murdered four score and four children to prove Muslims are the terrorists to fight. The shock and denial of the waiting parents is hell incarnate, waiting for word of their child as police stand before a curtain. They already know that the odds of thier child being murdered or gravely injured is not 1 in 4 but virtually certain. The pain and guilt is unbearable. If only I... What if I... Why? Who? What if they...What if you.. What if I... and they break down and cry. Our opinons turned to anger. We yelled the killer is Muslim, no the killer is Jewish, no the killer is Christian, no the killer is right wing extremist. And we are lost, bickering among ourselves. With all the reflection of research with science and religious study, justice will never satisfy; we fall into a loneliness and depression, and feel we can no longer cry. He knew guns and bombs would teach the world. He pledged he would no longer be powerless. Still he felt every insult that's hurled. He felt everything to gain if you could feel his pain and that is why he is so dangerous. We will point to patterns of hate and we'll try to accept our fate but no one or thing will change the fight of the bestial proud predator in the man who believes he is Right. OH yes indeed, YOU know you are right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST Date: 23 Jul 11 - 08:12 AM GfinS, The reason no one refutes Sawz arguments is simple... No one reads any of his posts anymore, other that you and maybe LH and I doubt if LH even reads 'um... Sawz has taken himself out of the game and now it's too late for him... Maybe he'll have to reinvent himself like the other two times he did this here, first as Old Guy and then as Dickey... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:09 AM You want me to argue with some unattributed quotes about Soros? He is not even saying that what Soros did is illegal; or something a couple of individuals I never heard of said on facebook? Sawzaw hasn't said anything meaningful that I have read. Just pointless attacks on individuals and avoidance of the issues. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:02 AM "The West Bank has the highest density of any place in the Middle East" Perhaps you mean Gaza, which is one of the most densely populated places in the world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 11 - 01:26 AM Well, except for more hard blowing, nobody has refuted Sawzaw's posts and his links, with anything of supporting facts...just more pedantic attempts at discrediting, those of an opposing view!!!...and then turn around and do exactly what you're accusing 'the right' of doing, to the left!!!(and I'm not even on the 'right'..just don't agree). Then call,(without responding,)of course, him or myself of being 'opinionated'...but refuse to address the posts...with nothing but party line OPINIONS....and NO FACTS!!! WHAT IS THIS??? 'Stupid' on parade???!! I AIN'T BUYIN' IT!!..you can..you can even think you've impressed somebody...other than yourself...but you didn't, and WON'T, without some supporting FACTS. What?..You expect others to share your opinions, built of political partisan fantasies..or some fantasy bullshit rap you bought into???? Hey, you got your break..but 'break's over'! Less twisted 'logic' based on baseless rhetoric, and some FACTS to give credence, to any of your nonsense! Is that such a wild, unreasonable request??...especially to those who claim to be such 'astute intellectuals'?? Are we suppose to be swayed by mere sophistry?? ..and a more in depth definition...... ..and then conclude it with everybody isn't as 'wise' as you to understand it?? Understand WHAT?? You haven't presented ANYTHING of substance!!...except misnomers of what you think I, Little Hawk, or Sawzaw is saying...then arguing your 'point' you pretend to make, as if it is what WE are saying, or even talking about!...supported by FACTS!! Get a life!....or some 'reality doses'! Let's give it another try...Sawzaw presented several links now, that supports various things both Little Hawk and I have said....if you can't support your view....get some 'intellectual glasses'!!! Still my posts stand!!!...and, without any serious refutation, as does Little Hawk's, and Sawzaw's....AND none of us, agree on EVERYTHING, nor are we communicating with each other off the thread!~(as you have)! Either offer something of value, or at least 'consider' the possibility, that you may have something NEW to learn...from your friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sincerely....(and sincerely disappointed in you), GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 23 Jul 11 - 12:58 AM Lemme see. The left wing Democratic underground says Clay Duke is "a warrior for our cause" and that what Bobert believes is a paid right winger. Bootleg Moonshine + Cannabis + Bobert sittin on his ass + acute blowharditis = Bobert "facts" such as "The West Bank has the highest density of any place in the Middle East" |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 22 Jul 11 - 08:32 PM Here's the deal, Greg... The right wing is spending big $$$ on bloggers and bomb throwers... These folks get paid to sit on their asses and do nothing but twist information into something that has nothing to do with reality... They are paid by the folks who have corralled 80% of the wealth in this country... These folks can literally throw billions at lies, bullshit and more lies... The left??? Ain't got the grease to compete... That 20% of the wealth that is left are the crumbs that the other 95% of the population have to live on... This would be David and Goliath except the left ain't got no sling shot... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 22 Jul 11 - 08:22 PM It is somewhat amazing that he can consistently come up with this lunatic bullshit, and works so hard to misinterpret & mis-state it, tho. Imagine if he applied all that effort to something worthwhile. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 22 Jul 11 - 06:14 PM True. But I guess hope springs eternal. Trying to have a rational conversation with some people is like trying to teach a pig to whistle. It won't be successful, it's a waste of your time, and it annoys the pig. (But sometimes, just knowing that you've annoyed the pig can be a positive.} Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 22 Jul 11 - 05:26 PM No point in attempting to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 22 Jul 11 - 05:17 PM Another Left Wing Terrorist attack Clay Duke facebook page which listed the George Soros funded mediamatters.org on his Facebook page as one of his favorite websites. "My Testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V) no I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats same-same rich they take turns fleecing us our few dollars pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95% the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us " Duke ordered everyone to leave the room, except for the boardmembers. After the people left, a female board member, Ginger Littleton, is seen in the video trying to disarm the gunman. She hits his hand with her purse. Duke knocked her to the ground and pointed his pistol at her head, but allowed her to leave. "Go on," he can be heard saying on the video. Duke then turned his attention mostly to Husfelt. "You fired my wife," he said to the school board leader. He then gave a dire prediction as to how things were going to end. "I'm going to die today." Duke never identified the job or refers to his wife by name, but argued that he was broke and would soon lose health benefits. Husfelt negotiated with him to let the other members of the board leave, taking the blame for his wife being fired. "I'm the one that signed the paper, right?" Husfelt told Duke, according to the video. "Let them go, I'm the one who did it... You're obviously upset with me, so why are they here?" Moments later, Duke points his gun at Husfelt and pulls the trigger. Miraculously, the bullet misses. The man fires several more times at board members, but his shots go wild. Then, according to police, security guard and former cop Mike Jones stormed into the room and opened fire. He hit Duke, who then collapsed to the floor. Police said he then turned the gun on himself. SWAT officers soon swarmed the room. The entire incident lasted only a few minutes. "It was so surreal," Husfelt said. "You couldn't believe it was going on." Although some board members thought perhaps the gun was loaded with blanks or was merely a cap gun, police said it was real. Duke had a history of violence. In 1999 he was charged with aggravated stalking, shooting or throwing a missile into a building or vehicle and obstructing justice, according to state records. He was convicted and sentenced in January 2000 to five years in prison and was released in January 2004. Records show Duke was a licensed massage therapist before his arrest but it wasn't clear if he was employed. Form the Deocratic underground: It is now that I ask that you look upon the man not as a maniac, not as a drunkard ex-con, not as a rambling lunatic or an attempted murderer, but as a martyr, a symbol of the never ending strife for social justice and equality, a warrior, for our cause. I ask that you see Clay Duke for the man behind the gun. Facebook links theprogressivemind.info http://metanoia-films.org/index.php http://www.theprogressivemind.info/ http://www.axisoflogic.com/ http://carolynbaker.net/ http://www.accountabilitycircle.org/ http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml http://mediamatters.org/ http://www.medialens.org/ http://redpill8.blogspot.com/ http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Disinfopedia http://www.stoplying.ca/ http://www.wearechange.org/ http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/mirrors.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 22 Jul 11 - 03:18 PM GfS, Little Hawk, for years, has been talking about how the United States in particular is governed by one party masquerading as two, and there is no point in trying to oppose it. Give up! Defeatism, even if true. You, on the other hand, have never made a clear, cohesive statement other than negative remarks about those whom you characterize as "liberal," usually accompanied by contemptuous adjectives indicating you have no actual knowledge of what a liberal is ("…. liberal 'squawking points'...which is usually just hot air blowing out someone's ass."), and an inability to distinguish between liberals, progressives, socialists, conservatives, fascists,, Nazis, communists, and various other schools of political and economic philosophy. But you seem to be taking the same negative position that Little Hawk does. You haven't stated any "facts!" Just shallow opinions along the same defeatist ideas that Little Hawk has expressed. That, and a general penchant for flinging insults and contemptuous remarks at people when they are talking over your head. Also, you use political terms (without knowing what they mean), slap labels on people, and try to stuff them into arbitrary pigeon holes, which is the mark of someone who knows little, but wants to play the expert by putting other people down, not by attempting to refute what they say, but by attacking them on a personal level (". . . you old farts are senile!"). Okay, GfS, you use the word "liberal" a lot, indiscriminately applying it to people as a pejorative. Here's a primer (not that I think it will do much good): Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom") is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but most liberals support such fundamental ideas as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, free trade, and the freedom of religion. These ideas are widely accepted, even by political groups that do not openly profess a liberal ideological orientation. Liberalism encompasses several intellectual trends and traditions, but the dominant variants are classical liberalism, which became popular in the eighteenth century, and social liberalism, which became popular in the twentieth century.Your welcome. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Jul 11 - 02:33 PM Kochs take a heaping helping while Soros helps a heap? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 22 Jul 11 - 01:32 PM Now, ya know, the Lord helps those who help themselves - with both hands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Jul 11 - 01:28 PM The point I made was much simpler than that. It is one of motivation. I am arguing that Soros spends to help others and the Koch's Spend to help themselves therefor there is no equating them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: pdq Date: 22 Jul 11 - 01:08 PM Here is what successful Las Vegas hotel owner and lifetime Democrat Steve Wynn has to say about Obama' economic policy... from Democrat-leaning Los Angeles Times |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jul 11 - 12:34 PM JtS: "Then I probed them to find one difference between theirs and the GOP congressional agenda. I could find none. Then I asked them outright, was there a difference. They admitted that there wasn't." Not sure what you meant by the wording of that part of the post...but the only differences that I see, only last till the next rotation of the elections. ..and I beg to differ on Soros's versus Koch's 'contributions'. I'm NOT saying the Koch's are any more or less altruistic than Soros's...what I am saying is, once either or both parties become beholden to either one, or both's 'contribution', that the will of the people gets 'overridden' by the money, which is 'donated' to further THEIR view, which is not particularly in the best interests, OR the will of the people. The same can be said by any leveraging lobbyist's group, who through 'slight of hand', and loopholes, amounts to nothing more than bribes. If a 'representative' refuses their advances, then that person,(or their agenda) is subject to a media campaign to smear them! The media, is all too obliging, depending on the 'contributions' that they have received, from the same! That's why there is such a chasm between the various 'news' groups...other than the general disinformation that the government chooses to release...which, of course, is slanted toward whomever they are beholden to, at the time! As an example, as of recent...the 'stimulus' crap..a trillion dollars of debt occurred, 'Borrowed'(which means it is non-taxable), goes to the banks, who don't release it for it's intended purpose, while we, the public pays it back, PLUS the interest, to the banks, who are holding our money!!! Now, just who is 'zooming' who??? It should be all too apparent, that somebody is either making a ton of money from these practices, or an incredible amount of leverage..to further their own greed for a power base. BOTH parties have been bought off, long ago, to perpetuate this fraud on the American,(and world) people! The problem, with the ideologues, is they keep chanting the mantra, of the EXCUSES that are thrown to them, which SEEMS all too 'righteous', while the 'leaders' couldn't give a rat's ass about anything but the power and money. It should be noted, as well, that MOST of these clandestine clowns, behind the scenes, have globalist interests, AND military and defense contracts....so any way we turn, we end up inadvertently funding all of this nonsense, PLUA the interest(which is usually equal to the original loan), and become more enslaved, to accommodate their avarice for power and greed, while at the same time, give up not only our sovereignty,, but personnel freedoms and liberties with it. Another goodie, to throw into the mix, is that a lot of these monies are used to fund 'black box' programs, which are, of course, kept very hush hush, and out of the eyes of scrutiny....because of 'national interests', which in itself is a misnomer, for being used against us..to keep us in line!! You'd think, that folk singers, who rose to prominence during the 'protest era' would be addressing this..but aren't, because that too, was co-opted by the Democratic Party, only to gather support, and votes...but NOT to further anything, that even resembles representing, virtually ANYTHING that they 'aligned' themselves for, other than deceiving that group, that 'they' are 'on our side'!!!....and as we all got older, some of us actually still think that!....Want to talk about being 'duped'? Meanwhile, while 'this administration' has racked up 4 more trillion in debt(largest in U.S. history), what has it bought us, EXCEPT paying the interest on those loans, which is greater than the military budget.....but the left keep pointing to the military as the ones sucking up all the resources!!!....just because they were sold a bad bill of goods, by the LEADERSHIP, of the Democrats, who have convinced the devotees down-line, that they are they guys of peace, and equality!..Bullshit!!! Personally, from what I've seen, there are good and decent people who are both liberal, conservative, Republicans, Democrats, Tea Partiers, and the like....they only get weird when they begin reciting the bull-crap that was fed to them, by the 'leaders' of those parties, who have NO intention of ever believing ANY of it!!!!!!!!!!! Just take a look!! ....Meanwhile, the 'protest' singers, just bicker within themselves, in effect, disarming them, and rendering them both useless, and unheard! ....as witnessed on here!....and NEVER heard, in the public arena! Thank you, for responding to my question in an intelligent post! Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 22 Jul 11 - 12:06 PM Individual donations to 527 organizations (2001 to 2010) George Soros: $32.5 million Koch Brothers: $1.5 million Individual donations to federal candidates, parties and political action committees (1989 to 2010) Koch Brothers: $2.58 million 1.29 ea George Soros: $1.74 million Soros:"I have always harboured an exaggerated view of my self-importance. To put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes, or, even better, like Einstein. My sense of reality was strong enough to make me realise that these expectations were excessive, and I kept them hidden as a guilty secret. This was a source of considerable unhappiness through much of my adult life. As I made my way in the world, reality came close enough to my fantasy to allow me to admit my secret, at least to myself. Needless to say, I feel much happier as a result." "It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out." "I've come to the conclusion that one can do a lot more about the issues I care about by changing the government than by pushing the issues." For the richest hedge fund managers, 2009 was the best year ever. Appaloosa Management chief David Tepper, who bet on the recovery of banks and the debt of bailed-out US insurer AIG, earned the biggest payouts with $4.36 billion in 2009, a record for the sector. US financier George Soros, the head of Soros Fund Management, took the second spot with $3.6 billion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Jul 11 - 07:04 AM "Regardless, as I posted before, the 'attraction' for a lot of the Tea Party joiners, seems to rest with a frustration with 'business as usual in Washington'...and the people being screwed, as a result of it, and the loss of our(perceived) freedoms." When financial regulation was before Congress, I joined one of the Tea Party groups in the hope that I could find allies. They were not interested. They told me to "speak to Ron Paul's people." Then I asked them, wouldn't it be better to work at persuading both sides to work for their goals than just supporting Republicans. They said (paraphrase) that there was no such thing a good Democratic candidate. I pointed to the Dino in my own district. They ignored that. Then I probed them to find one difference between theirs and the GOP congressional agenda. I could find none. Then I asked them outright, was there a difference. They admitted that there wasn't. Anyone one joining the Tea Party to make a difference in Washington is being duped. If you want change in Washington you can support the Dems and push change upon then at a glacial pace. Or you can Vote GOP, for changes which take us on the track of Reagan and Bush II. The Dems do listen to their voters. But keep in mind that their voters are many times more diverse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 22 Jul 11 - 06:52 AM There is a big difference between the way Soros and the Koch's spend their political money. The lion's share of Soros' donations go to further the aims of the poor and working class. Moveon, is constantly asking me for money and specifying where it will be spent. In that way it is very democratic and transparent. The Lions share of Koch money goes to make government friendlier to their own interests such as coal mining and lower taxes, at the expense of those with less than them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jul 11 - 12:22 AM ..or because you old farts are senile! BTW....If you fell into a pile of money..let's say billions, would or wouldn't you support a political effort?? If you did, OK..nothing wrong with that.....BUT if you used it to leverage agendas, in a corrupt way, that's a different story. If it was legitimate, I'm sure your 'opposition' would come up with all sorts of slurs at you, wouldn't you say???..even media bias, as well.. I notice you ALWAYS jump on the Koch Bros......just what is it that, THAT YOU KNOW, is corrupt about them?...other than being rich, and oil people. To my knowledge, I don't know too much about their dealings, other than that of virtually all mega-wealthy people. (I'm not setting a 'trap', or anything...I was just curious. I noticed you didn't address the other people and entities I mentioned. THOSE I KNOW are corrupt bastards! Another thing, just for what it's worth....remember when I said I talked to a couple of Tea Partiers, a while back??....I mentioned the Koch Bros. to them, and they didn't seem to know too much about them, either...but one seemed to know about one of them, by name(only). Regardless, as I posted before, the 'attraction' for a lot of the Tea Party joiners, seems to rest with a frustration with 'business as usual in Washington'...and the people being screwed, as a result of it, and the loss of our(perceived) freedoms. Just a simple response will do.(No lecturing, bad-mouthing, or pontificating)...OK? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 11 - 10:56 PM No, it's because you are like our younger siblings who don't get it yet... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 11 - 10:33 PM JTS: "I don't know why anyone would was to argue with a vacationer from sanity." Frankly, neither do I....unless they like to play Devil's advocate, and learn something along the way! JtS: "Anyone who argues that the Tea Party is anything but a rebranding of the worst elements of the GOP is playing the fool and is a dupe themselves." As I've posted SEVERAL times before, I am NOT a Tea Partier, nor do I support them....but I CAN see why it appeals to some people, who want a change.....but, as also posted several times(sometimes I have to repeat myself to ideologues, they are very SLOW in learning, or even comprehending), "I'm not with the party, I'm with the band!" Baghdad Bob Lim-baugh...or bert: "Nevermind... Back to the delusional GfinS... All the $$$ that George Soros has is chump change compared to the Koch brothers..." In for a penny, in for a pound! You mean Soros made NOTHING after crashing the British pound?? Soros is a LOT wealthier, and crazier, than you have any idea apparently. Guest 999: "GfS does not share most of the views espoused by others. So what. Why pick on GfS. (I don not share GfS views, but that is no reason to resort to rancor.) IMO." Well, they do that rather than debate the issues, because they have NO FACTS to back them up...only liberal 'squawking points'...which is usually just hot air blowing out someone's ass. Typically when the name calling rancor begins, its because they sense they've lost the argument, and instead of engaging in fact finding, their inflated egos, just start bickering. It's another sign of short-sighted, Narcissistic stupidity! Guest 999: "Gentlemen, GfS was rude to me many maonths back, so I seldom address him/her. However, I feel no need to be rude back--.." ..and we've both baked each other up, too, on occasion...Don Firth, as well.....(even a broken clock is right, twice a day)! Bobert: "know it can be hard to see thru it from the outside but we all (the participants/combatants) seem to understand the where the boundaries are with the exception of Sawz... But GfinS and LH fully understand that Don and I aren't this, ahhhh, enemy..." Because, in his heart, he knows we're right!!! Waving To You All!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:55 PM No, brucie... It's... F...irst O...n R...ace D...ay Fords rock!!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:40 PM OK, Bobert. Thanks. As for Fords--jaysus. Fix Often, Repair Daily; Found On Road, Dead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:45 PM Hey, brucie... I think that you are making more of this than any of the participants in the mud pit...lol... I mean, yeah, we don't exactly agree but there is a level of caring, fondness and respect between all of us... I know it can be hard to see thru it from the outside but we all (the participants/combatants) seem to understand the where the boundaries are with the exception of Sawz... But GfinS and LH fully understand that Don and I aren't this, ahhhh, enemy... Like it is said, "Ya had to be there"... I mean, both GfinS and LH know that this ol' hillbilly loves 'um but also like to mix it up- with them on occasion... That make any sense, brucie??? I mean, I loves you, too, but if you go mean mouthing olf Fords then we can wrestle around, too... lol... Fords rock!!! Okay, the newer ones leave a lot to be desired but the old ones rock!!! B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:06 PM Point taken. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Jul 11 - 07:25 PM Gentlemen, GfS was rude to me many maonths back, so I seldom address him/her. However, I feel no need to be rude back--other than my initial GFY in response to the post that slagged me. This type of call-response posting is beneath you. Hell, I know both you guys and have admired each of you for various reasons for many years now. I ain't telling you what to do. I am saying it's a waste of your time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Jul 11 - 03:01 PM As far as resorting to rancour is concerned, take a look sat some to the posts of GfS. If you disagree with him about much of anything, he immediately comes back with a string of personal insults. I don't like it either, 999, because it interferes with rational discourse. But these ginks are not interested in rational discourse, and unfortunately, some people give their baseless ravings credence. You will note that, when they do abandon civilized behavior, I tend to temper my come-backs and rebutals with humor. It tends to amuse the rational folks here, but really gets up the noses of people like GfS and Sawzaw, because they seem to have had their senses of humor amputated early on. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:51 PM Not to worry, brucie... GfinS has dished up more than her fair of manure on others here and she can take it... The ol' gal ain't some frail little thing... She's the original prototype of Nurse Ballbuster...lol... But this thread is about the Tea Party and not GfinS... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:22 PM Brevity is the soul of wit. GfS does not share most of the views espoused by others. So what. Why pick on GfS. (I don not share GfS views, but that is no reason to resort to rancor.) IMO. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:48 PM Just so, Jack. Shakespeare asked, "What's in a name?" Well, oftentimes, quite a bit. "Guest FROM Sanity" about says it all. #### Seattle has been an innovative Rock town for some decades now. Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, many others. And now— Who needs Vlad? The world has CLICKY. With Kaci doin' her thing. (She also has a YouTube video where she demonstrates taking off her bra in about 13 seconds without removing her top.) This video is presented as a Public Service as a diversion for those who are so frightened by the Evil Forces in the World that they are too intimidated and terrified to even think about trying to deal with them (hence, helping to guarantee their worst fears: that the E. F. of W. will eventually take over the entire planet). You're welcome. Don Firth P. S. To Sawzaw. Well, yeah. . . . Not my particular thing, but I'm not exactly a stranger to Rock. My nephew. And here he is again. P. P. S. I might not be back much today. I'm getting together with an old friend of mine this afternoon. He's quite active politically. We're going to PLOT! P. P. P. S. By the way, for GfS and Little Hawk, and others of like—er—mind, here's an organization they might be interested in joining: Quiet! They might be listening!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:32 PM I like David... Met him about 30 years ago... BTW, he is working cheap (relatively) these days so if anyone wants to hire him fir a gig let me know and I think I can get the offer to him... Well, I was drunk the day my mama got outta prison... Nevermind... Back to the delusional GfinS... All the $$$ that George Soros has is chump change compared to the Koch brothers... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:40 AM hmmmm |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:15 AM Does anybody here like the music of David Allan Coe? I do. I recently heard his newer recording of Death Row with the blues harp and it was great. I heard it on AOL Radio. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 21 Jul 11 - 04:18 AM I don't know why anyone would was to argue with a vacationer from sanity. Anyone who argues that the Tea Party is anything but a rebranding of the worst elements of the GOP is playing the fool and is a dupe themselves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:06 AM Don: "Some time back, the shaft on the propellor beanie that GfS was wearing came loose and it screwed itself into HIS head, inadvertently giving HIM a lobotomy." ....and Baghdad Bob-Lim-Bert says I'm a 'SHE'.....now you two figure out which of you to is completely out of their mind. Let me know, when you astute judges of in depth insight, come to an agreement...until then, I'll just watch the steam rise in the horizon, while you two fry your brains...probably with beanie propellers. Jeez,..and that's the BEST he could do. Hey!!!..try thinking about what I posted to you, and stop feigning 'incomprehension'...I thought you thought higher of your intelligence! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:46 AM Really kind of sad. Some time back, the shaft on the propellor beanie that GfS was wearing came loose and it screwed itself into his head, inadvertently giving him a lobotomy. That explains a lot. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:44 AM Here, try this out! .....at least you won't be able to hurt yourselves! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:38 AM Baghdad Bob-Lim-bert": "The Koch bhrothers and the insurance companies pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." And Soros on the left,..pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." the Rockefellers on both sides, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." (Do you actually think they put YOU over the needs of the Rockefeller family treasure chest???... Carlyle group, both sides,pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ... Mr.and Mrs. James Carville, Democrat stratagist, (married to Mary Matalin, Republican statagist) both sides, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ..I bet they don't argue about what new bullshit they come up with,..as they collect from their 'contributors', ..Immelt, (G.E.)who skips paying taxes, while promoting, tax INCREASES for us, and while actually conning the Democraps to support raising taxes..EXCEPT FOR HIS, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." Monsanto, who backs every 'left' legislation to limit the public from having access to real food, or growing it, while they genetically engineer both a food monopoly, and unhealthy food, and seeds that do not grow, for the public, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ...Bill and Hilary Clinton, who belong to the same financial group, as the Bush's pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ...Newt Gingrich, of Goldman Sachs, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ... Biden, who was the author of the 'Patriot Act', got others to spend hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ....Pelosi, the crooked bitch whose husband deals in processing home foreclosures, MADE hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ...Al Gore, who made over $500 million on HIS farcical version of 'Global Warming', while at the same time uses up huge amounts of power to 'light' his humble abode and fuel his private jets, to speak to numbskulls about 'conserving energy, and cap and trade' bullshit MADE hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..." ....need I go on????? ..... ..and all the while, a bunch of dumb lackeys, become self appointed 'experts', and peddle their bull-crap FOR THEM????..YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME???? You stand there with you shovel in hand, and tell ME, that I'm deluded??????!!!! ..Just keep digging faster. Maybe you'll dig to 'Nirvana', somewhere in China, where you couldn't even get away with such imbecilic behavior....OOOPS, I nearly forgot, I'm insulting your political 'model'. Oh well, I guess its true....you can't teach an old dog new tricks...or in some of your cases, 'You can lead a horse(or pig) to water, but you can't make it play a banjo!' Don't you just LOVE how their guy Obama got the 'stimulus' package signed, and the mega-corps are holding the money, unemployment has never come down, we pay the interest on the loans, for that money....and the moronic imbeciles, drag their knuckles on the ground muttering, "Well it would have been much worse, if he didn't get that bill through"....and to top it off, you want to be seen as an astute 'expert' on the subject!!??!!...only because you heard some clown pundit say that on one of the mega-corp owned 'news' commentaries?!? Talk about DUPES!!!! It's down right pathetic....only Monty Python could come up with something, that could resemble more of a parody, of 'stupid'!!! OK..Your turn....try outdoing embarrassing yourselves....there is a hole waiting for you to dig!!! GfS So go support you most recent folly....in a couple of years, you'll be spouting just the opposite side of the coin....if there is any left, to split. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 20 Jul 11 - 09:19 PM I was going to recommend a couple of other books, GfS, in an effort to help you keep from making a total ass of yourself, but I can see now that--well--that ain't gonna happen. By the way, the kids are pretty good. And Little Hawk: You're doing it again. You guys are totally beyond hope. Never mind. Not worth the bother. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:57 PM Yup, seems as if we have a couple of wackos, that much is for sure... If they had been in the band on the Titanic they would be planning what key the next song was to be in as the boat was going down... "Classless and free" is what John Lennon penned about folks who like to pontificate and put themselves out there as the intellectuals while "castles burned"... "all fuckin' peasants as far as I can see"... Yup... Seems as they missed all the times when Nader had it nailed and now when there is the largest push to take down the New Deal in our lifetimes they still want to play old games and sing songs that are dated and stale and don't represent the here-and-now... Now don't get me wrong... I like both of these wackos... I truly do... Doesn't change their wacko status in my book until they quit parroting Republican propaganda... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:56 PM You're being silly, Jack. ;-) GfS doesn't even slightly resemble the image you are carrying in your mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:52 PM Bobert, "big government" is the presumed enemy of the kind of people who rally to something like the Tea Party, is it not? And big government is in fact admirably serving the purposes OF the large banks and the biggest corporations who loooooove Big Government, because they control it with their money, and it allows them to make a lot more money. The ordinary people who are attracted to a protest movement like the Tea Party imagine themselves to be taking on Washington, don't they? And Washington is a city dominated by corporate lobbyists and Wall Street. I think the ordinary people who are attracted to the Tea Party are indeed dupes and pawns for a corporate agenda, but they have no idea that they are. They think they're fighting for the old traditional America of small towns, Ozzie and Harriet, Little House on the Prairie, the local church, etc., but they're simply being used to help divide the public along ever more extreme lines of partisan rhetoric. Many idealistic people on the Left are being used the same way by turning their anger against people like the Tea Party or Sarah Palin or some other easily visible "enemy". Two sets of easily manipulated and very emotional and righteous dupes on the Right and the Left thus turn their anger on each other while the banks and corporations (who are really apolitical as well as completely ammoral) cash in on the gridlock and confusion that follows, the government passes the regressive legislation they want, and their money-making agenda goes forward. The way the crooks at the top win is, they divide the public against each other, they push hot emotional trigger issues like "gay marriage", "right to life", etc., they play the race card, the gay card, the patriotism card, the gender card, the terrorism card, the ethnic card, whatever gets people REALLY scared, divided, and upset with one another, they send the public out to fight with each other over all that stuff, and they win by default while people are screaming in each other's faces and ridiculing each other. One part of the public then blames the other part for what happened, and the game goes on, and on, and on. The rich elite wins. Everyone else loses. This happens in Canada too, but in a much more muted fashion, and more gradually, because things are less volatile here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:46 PM no lh, You two definitely are saying things to each other which should be kept between you. No one here want to see those lip prints on your butt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:31 PM And, for the record, th3e Tea Party is not some romanticized backlash to corporatization... They are dupes and pawns for the corporatists... So get over that little BIG LIE... The Koch bhrothers and the insurance companies pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes... That, GfinS, is the real deal here... The Tea Party ain't Robin Hood... They are corporate Goons... Look goons up in context of history... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:30 PM Yeah, that's for sure, 999. ;-D Jack seems to be troubled by the fact that there are 2 people on a political thread who actually like each other! I admit it's a rare thing....highly unconventional...quite suspicious really! We should be fighting tooth and nail with one another and hurling personal insults in order to maintain the sweet and tolerant forms of communication to which most of these threads are devoted... Bobert, I don't think for a moment that Ralph Nader will save you either. No third or fourth party is going to rescue Americans from the Big Two parties. Not a chance. A third party only syphons off enough votes from one of the Big Two so that the other can win handily, and that's no solution to anything. So, nope, Bobert...I'm not suggesting you back Ralph Nader! I'm saying that there IS no solution to the political mess in the USA, and that if I lived there I'd be looking very seriously for some other place to live in, provided I could find work there. I'd get out, just like Marlene Dietrich got out of Nazi Germany. There is, in my opinion, no political party that's going to turn things around in the USA, because the corruption of your political system has passed the point of no return, just as it once did in Imperial Rome. But...it is, naturally, incument upon those of you who still think you can reform that system from within to give it the best shot you can. Fine with me. I wish you all the luck in the world. It's your country, so you might as well try, right? |
