Lyr ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Anna
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 06:30 PM

Thanks to everyone for interesting information and lyrics.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:27 PM

The group of Goole of silicon, Goole, Goole, Goole and watch was?

They are those that are united?


Of the group that goes they are those that are united the group that goes.

The group of Goole of silicon, goalie, goalie, goalie and watch was?

They are those that are united?

Of the group that goes they are those that are united the group that goes.

Sheila of hail and shale Hail de Ohm, state of Ohio and state of Ohio of hail of shale -, been of Ohio of hail of shale of shale Hail, hail and shale of Ohio it indicates Ho.

-. Wally Shelly, Wally Shelly, Wally Shelly, Wally Shelly,


Oomph, Oomph, Oomph and Oomph.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Jen
Date: 19 Aug 07 - 10:05 AM

I was actually looking on a Scouting site that has explained a possible meaning of gin Gan Gooly which is relating to a Grey Ghost elephant that comes wandering after the rains, when the elephant reaches a village it would either walk through it or go round it. If it walked round the village would be prosperous and if it went through they would be hungry and suffer bad crops. In the tribal village of Watcha the leader Ginga Gool (or something like that) was troubled by 3 years of the elephent going through his village. He arranged spearsmen to chantand frighten the elephant to go round and his Medicine man (Hayla SHayla) to make magic potions and throw them around village (Shally wally shallywally) and the elephent replied Oompa Oompa Oopma this went on and the chants got louder and eventually the elephant swerved round the village - thus the oompa getting quieter.
Or it could just be the most common explanation in that it was easy for scouts and guides round the world to pick up!!
Braw to remember camp fires though.
Rolling home blind drunk was my fav!!
By the light of the silvery moooon
laughing ha ha hee with a bottle on my knee
and the shadow of my top hat on the wall!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Chelle Pinkenba
Date: 05 Sep 07 - 06:13 PM

Ging Gang Gooley
During the first world jamboree, Lord Baden Powell realized that all the different scouts spoke different languages. Because of that, he made this song which no one understood the words or meaning.


Ging gang gooley, gooley, gooley, gooley, watcha

Ging gang goo, ging gang goo

Ging gang gooley, gooley, gooley, gooley, watcha

Ging gang goo, ging gang goo

Heyla, heyla sheyla, heyla shey-la heyla ho

Heyla, heyla sheyla, heyla shey-la heyla ho

Golly wally, golly wally, golly walla, golly walla

Um-pa, Um-pa, Um-pa

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 04:16 AM

I remember a 70s pop band, maybe The Scaffold, recorded a verson.
Something like
There's a pretty little brown eyed brownie lives next door,
Lives next door,
And I......... that's for sure,
That's for sure,
Hayla, her name is Shaela, and her eyes are summer blue,
Heyla, heyla sheyla, heyla shey-la heyla ooh.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Maya Bou HAYLA
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 01:33 PM

Hello everyone!

I am a guide from lebanon and was searching for my names origins...HAYLA
And could found that it is an ARAMEAN language(old language of the native people living in the middle east before the arab invasion) it means : the Power with divine contribution.

And found out that the Hayla's family is spread in lebanon, Israêl and Africa...

Could Hayla Sheyla ...be one of us?

Live lord Baden Powell!

Subject: midi
From: GUEST,Harrrrry
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 09:12 AM

Hi all,
is there a midi for this ging gang golly?

Thanks a lot

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 11:41 AM

Guest Chelle P., you give no reference or citation for your assertion that Baden Powell wrote Ging Gang Goolie.
It is an unsupported statement unless reliable reference is provided.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,JP
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:11 PM

Baden-Powell wrote Ging Gang Goolie in 1920 for the first international, as mentioned so there would be a song that had equal meaning (or lack tyhere of) for all.

Check wikipedia for references.

cheers
Cubmaster JP

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Irene
Date: 26 Jun 11 - 06:35 AM

I looked up Ging gang goolie today because I just heard it sung on a Coronation Street eposide. on a charabang (coach). I used to sing it in the 1950's when I was a Brownie. My older sister was Brown Owl then took some sort of test and was promoted to Tawny Owl, We sat around a Paper Mache toadstool to sing our songs.
A mangle is what we used to wring the water out of laundry before hanging it on the washing line to dry. 2 rubber rollers pressed together by gears when you turned a handle to the side.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolee
From: GUEST,Derry
Date: 03 Sep 11 - 04:37 AM

Who originally wrote this song?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell)
From: GUEST,Girl Scout Susan
Date: 03 Dec 11 - 03:09 PM

Lord Baden-Powell penned this song for the 1st World Jamboree as others have said. The words are nonsense syllables.if anything there may be an African influence. What a shame to see a (nearly) century-old tradition spoiled by a "message" that isn't there. Let's ban the overt "(ake me out to the ball game" and please stop calling some athletes "footballers". What an image that conjures!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell)
From: GUEST,Brommabo
Date: 05 Jan 12 - 01:50 PM

We, my twin brother and me (born 1947), have during several years researched "Ging gang goolie" (and some various langugage and music versions), its origin, its possible meaning and its road to fame. The sources have been libraries and archives inside and outside Scandinavia as well as contacts with linguists and with the music industry. And of course the web. Our dedication has been boosted by a family tradition to sing "Ging gang goolie" (Scandinavian spelling, same melody) at family gatherings (started well before 1950 with our grandfather, 1882-1960), plain curiosity and a zeal for scientific research, in other words to find and evaluate relevant evidence.

We now want to share our humble findings of this research. We understand there are four main myths? regarding "Ging gang goolie" all over the web. Some have been discussed here.

I.        Robert Baden-Powell as originator: no evidence found (rather the opposite), highly improbable
II.        The music used was written by Mozart, 1st symphony: no evidence found, influence possible
III.        Exotic place as origin: many suggestions, none seem to be verified by evidence
IV.        Meaning of the lyrics among others indecent/vulgar/obscene: many suggestions, none seem to be verified by evidence

Please ref Wikipedia Discussion on "Ging gang goolie" for a more detailed discussion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ging_Gang_Goolie

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell)
From: GUEST,soderbo
Date: 07 Jan 12 - 07:51 AM

We, my twinbrother and me (born 1947) sing this version:

Kinkan kolli kolli kolli kolli vassian kinkan koh vassian goh
Kinkan kolli kolli kolli kolli vassian kinkan koh vassian goh
Ila ilasiava ilasiava palamba
Ila ilasiava ilasiava palamba
Tjolafalla, tjolafalla Kinkan ... and so on

But the original(?) "Niggers` Morning-Song" from 1905 (Gothenburg, Sweden) goes:

Hinkan, kolikolikolikolifejsan, Kinkan koh, kinkan koh
Hinkan, kolikolikolikolifejsan, Kinkan koh, kinkan koh
Ava, illa shava O, illa shava Kolifejs!
Ava, illa shava O, illa shava Kolifejs!
Tjolafalla, tjolafalla!

Please sing and compare with "Ging gang" (or "Qui qua Molly ..." or "Quick qwack qwanny ..." or "Shanne annee mannee ..." or "Oompa kalli alli alli ..." or ...)! Any Comments?

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jan 12 - 06:57 PM

If you search for "Ging Gang" on Spotify, you'll come up with all sorts of variations. Above, Keith A mentions a version by a 70s pop band - I wonder if that was the Tremeloes version. I couldn't understand much of it. There are two (apparently German) groups that have disco versions of the song - Der Trickser and Inner Kneipe. Most of the other versions sound like polkas.

I think I heard in Scouts fifty years ago that the song was written by Baden-Powell, but that could well be a fable. It's not a song I sang as a Boy Scout. I had heard of it, but never heard anybody sing it. Our Scout Songbook Index doesn't show the song in U.S. Scout songbooks.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 08:38 AM

Guest Irene, I was a Tawny Owl about forty years ago. It's a rank second to Brown Owl. We also had a papier mache toadstool, which I carried in my bike basket to meetings!
We sang "Ging gang goolie" in the early fifties, and were told that it was written to be sung by all nationalities.

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,Manuel
Date: 08 Jan 12 - 04:03 PM

Sad to say, I was never a Boy Scout; but I sure had the pleasure of often hearing"Ging Gang Goolie" being sung in my schoolyard (in what was then known as British Honduras)by kids a little older than I in the mid-to-late 1950s.

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,Brommabo
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 01:53 PM

About the origin: The very earliest documented English version for scouts of "Ging gang goolie" crops up in 1957 in the 'Gilwell Camp Fire Book', according to the UK Scout Association. The song is there termed 'Traditional'. Gilwell was and is a central UK training camp for scouts. (No other earlier English documented version has been found so far, thus earlier references would be of interest.) This dating might fit nicely with some experiences mentioned above. However, the song was published before that in Scandinavian song books for youths, among others a Swedish student song book in 1918. Scout song books in Denmark and Sweden published the song in 1924, thus it may have entered the global scouting world in that way.

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,Brommabo
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 04:17 PM

Hi Eliza!
I wonder where in the world did you sing "Ging gang goolie" in the early fifties? Further, did you learn by word of mouth or did you have any kind of book/document to sing from?

Subject: RE: ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,rcarr
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 07:58 PM

my mother used to sing a song that started "killy killy killy killy wash wash wash, kia, kia kaiya....she said it was a Polish washer woman song but maybe roots elsewhere?

Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: Ging Gang Goolie (Robert Baden-Powell ??)
From: GUEST,soderbo
Date: 12 Apr 19 - 12:17 PM

1905 occurrence of the Ging Gang song verified; Baden-Powell not involved in its creation

It is now proven beyond reasonable doubt that the well known gibberish song Ging Gang (Goo/Gooli/etc) was performed at a New Year´s cabaret in 1905 (the Folkteater in Gothenburg, Sweden). For that occasion it was named "Nxxxxxx Morning Song" and had "Scandinavian" spelling (e.g. "Hinkan"/"Kinkan" instead of "Ging Gang"; there have been so many different names and spellings all over the world).

Web links (digitized documents, both provided by the National Library of Sweden):

page 12 in a jubilee edition 1895-1920 from 1920
http://runeberg.org/eajubileum/0013.html

download of the entire cabaret brochure from 1905 (60 MB), ref. the cover page for location and year, and page 21 in the actual brochure
for the song (digitized page 25/31)
http://libris.kb.se/bib/ktghzvx2h8f753cg

and link to the Wikipedia Ging Gang article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ging_Gang_Goolie

The 1905 occurrence means of course that the claim that Robert Baden-Powell (supposedly inspired by South African songs and a Mozart piece) wrote the song for the 1st World Scout Jamboree 1920 simply is not true. It also means that whatever claims on origins that post-date 1905 are untrue. And further, that claims for earlier origin than 1905 need be well documented,

It seems very true, however, that the song is part of a family (lyrics-wise and/or tune-wise) of gibberish? songs that were documented primarily in Europe during the end of the 19th century and the first decades of the 20th century: some so called Anstich Lieder (drinking songs in Germany), Em Pom Pee, Hi Politi, Nicodemo, Kili-Watch, so called Wumba-songs, In Chinesien, etc.

(The National Library of Sweden is both a library and a government agency. It collects, preserves, and provides access to everything published in Sweden - and has been doing so for 350+ years.)