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BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine

Keith A of Hertford 28 Aug 13 - 06:08 AM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Aug 13 - 06:13 AM
GUEST,Teribus 28 Aug 13 - 07:19 AM
beardedbruce 28 Aug 13 - 08:18 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Aug 13 - 08:29 AM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Aug 13 - 08:36 AM
beardedbruce 28 Aug 13 - 08:38 AM
bobad 28 Aug 13 - 09:25 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Aug 13 - 04:37 PM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Aug 13 - 05:59 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Aug 13 - 06:12 PM
GUEST,Teribus 29 Aug 13 - 03:49 AM
Jim Carroll 29 Aug 13 - 04:23 AM
Teribus 29 Aug 13 - 07:01 AM
Steve Shaw 29 Aug 13 - 07:12 AM
Jim Carroll 29 Aug 13 - 07:54 AM
Keith A of Hertford 29 Aug 13 - 08:02 AM
Steve Shaw 29 Aug 13 - 08:32 AM
Keith A of Hertford 29 Aug 13 - 08:47 AM
Teribus 29 Aug 13 - 09:02 AM
Jim Carroll 29 Aug 13 - 11:43 AM
Keith A of Hertford 29 Aug 13 - 02:14 PM
Jim Carroll 29 Aug 13 - 02:58 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 06:08 AM

Washington Post, 5 days ago.


"Rockets were fired at Israel (from Lebanon) last year but fell short of entering the country. In 2011, rockets reached Israel and damaged two buildings.

With air raid sirens blaring and civilian air traffic halted, the rocket attack Thursday rekindled memories of the 34-day Israel-Lebanon war in 2006, when Hezbollah fired as many as 4,000 rockets into northern Israel. In response, Israel developed its Iron Dome missile interceptors, deploying the mobile units in 2011."


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 06:13 AM

BBC, 5 days ago, whole piece.

Explosions have been heard in northern Israel, after rockets were fired across the border from southern Lebanon.

Sirens sounded across the area, but no casualties were reported. Footage showed some minor damage at a kibbutz near the coastal town of Nahariya.

Four rockets were fired from southern Lebanon, a stronghold of the Shia Islamist movement Hezbollah.

An Israeli military spokesman said one of the rockets was intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defence system.

Rockets have been fired into Israel intermittently by militant groups since the Israel-Hezbollah conflict in 2006.

But an Israeli army spokesman told the BBC he did not believe Hezbollah was behind the attack.

Lebanese news agencies reported all four rockets were fired at Israel from the Tyre region in southern Lebanon.

Explosions were heard on Thursday afternoon in Nahariyah, on Israel's west coast, and as far east as Kiryat Shemona.

Footage showed the remains of a rocket in a street, with damage to a car and nearby windows.

Lt. Col. Peter Lerner blamed "global jihad"' elements for the attack, but added Israel had not retaliated.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded swiftly to the attack, saying Israel was "acting on all fronts" to defend its citizens.

"Our policy is clear: to protect and to prevent. Whoever tries to harm us should know we will harm them," he said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 07:19 AM

To those who witter on about "Palestinian" Land - I would like them to show me what borders actually define this land.

As far as I am aware in 1947 the Jews of Palestine agreed to a two-state solution proposed by the UN. Unfortunately the Arabs of Palestine and their allies (For that read every Arab country in the world) refused to accept this solution and elected to fight. Borders were then temporarily defined not as per the 1947 proposal but by the ceasefire lines in 1949 (I say temporarily defined as there was never any peace treaty signed - and subsequent Arab actions showed that they most certainly did not recognise these borders as meaning anything)

The big turning point came in 1967 when the pan Arabic Movement led by Nasser attempted to wipe Israel literally from the face of the earth, and received the shock of their lives for their troubles as the IDF cleared the Egyptians from Gaza and the Sinai, the Jordanians from the West Bank and East Jerusalem and the Syrians from the Sheeba Farms and the Golan Heights. Up until this point all these heroic Arab nations had been holding "Palestinian" land obtained by conquest, which apparently most here see nothing wrong with. But in 1967 they lost not only that but significant chunks of their own territory - and they squealed like stuck pigs.

1973 came and went as the Arabs once more elected to go to war and the situation became worse so to get their own land back both Egypt and Jordan did deals on the basis of land for peace and got their own land back. The Arabs of Palestine have still not defined what they see as being "their borders" so how can it be possible for the Israelis to steal land? The Egyptians "stole" Gaza for the best part of twenty years and they would hold it still had it not been for Nasser's f**k-up in 1967 - same goes for Jordan with East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The Mandated Territory of Palestine that was defined in 1923 allows for free settlement anywhere in that territory for Jew and Arab alike, the Jews just happen to be better at it. The Arabs of Palestine have had over 66 years to make something of the situation they themselves elected to get themselves into and they have failed miserably - the failure being entirely self-generated.

There is I fear not the slightest hope for any settlement - so next time it kicks off then the world should just stand back and let one side or the other prevail and settle the matter in blood the way the Arabs of the region have always wanted to settle it. I know which side would prevail (It would not be the Arabs) - and the Arabs of Palestine know that as well so their "leaders" continue with the farce taking every opportunity to grandstand in international forums playing the victim whilst ripping their "people" off by channeling millions off aid packages thrown at the Palestinian leadership by the gullible - Yasser Arafat was a past-master at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 08:18 AM

Don T

The Palestinian Moslems were given a JEW-FREE state in the early 1920's - TransJordan, over 77% of the Mandate Palestine territory. THOSE were the last borders accepted by the Arabs, and should be the START of any present negotiations.

This has been stated many times, WITH NO REFUTATION by ANY opposed to Israel- so your comment is willful ignorance, or deliberate lie.

As for Jimmie the Jew-hater's comments, he fails to note that the Palestinians have been quite specific in referring to the JEWS that they want to kill, and remove by ethnic cleaning.

He is quite happy for JEWS to be removed from land they were on for thousands of years, I note.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 08:29 AM

"In response, Israel developed its Iron Dome missile interceptors, deploying the mobile units in 2011."

And left hundreds of thousands of unexploded cluster bomblets lying around in southern Lebanon to blow kids' legs off. We know how much you enjoy partial information, Keith.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 08:36 AM

Israel has stopped using cluster weapons because of the problem of unexploded bomblets.
Most militaries did use them, and unlike firing antipersonel missiles at civilian targets, they were legal.
Decent militaries, like Israel, have ceased the use of cluster weapons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 08:38 AM

I see my lousy typing has let the usual haters ignore the facts.



"Steve, and Jim the Jew-Hater,

Since you have no problem with those who disagree with Bobert being called KKK, "

BOBERT calls anyone who disagrees with his opinions KKKrs, yet you have no problem with that. EVERYONE who disagrees with ANYTHING Obama says is a racist, even when we are on record as having disagreed with such policies long before Obama was on the political scene.


"and Jim-the-Jew_Hater calls me "Brainless Bruce,"

The standard "Liberal " response to ANY post where facts are presented is to attack the poster, and the "Liberal" logic police NEVER seem to bother noticing- yet they will jump on any logical flaw by those they disagree with, and claim that there is thus no reason to even consider facts.


"you have no fucking right to either complain about or ask for proof of my naming Jim Carroll what he has shown himself to be."

Simple statement of fact.



"Or are you joining the Ubermensch in demanding a different set of rules for those you support versus those you disagree with???

As I say, what a typical bunch of "Liberal" shit for brains."


Again, I have to judge the "Liberals" here by those that post their views, and how they post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 09:25 AM

Good post Teribus but don't confuse them with facts, their position is not predicated on facts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 04:37 PM

Israel has stopped using cluster weapons because of the problem of unexploded bomblets.
Most militaries did use them, and unlike firing antipersonel missiles at civilian targets, they were legal.
Decent militaries, like Israel, have ceased the use of cluster weapons.


You're a laugh a minute, Keith. One of those people who can persuade themselves of anything if they try hard enough. As I said, you can't argue with a bloody idiot. God knows why we bother with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 05:59 PM

Cut the crap and point out my error Steve, if you can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 06:12 PM

No crap, Keith. As ever, you are in complete, blind denial of Israel's wrongdoings. Hundreds of maimed Lebanese kids could vouch for that. One million unexploded bomblets left lying around, all nice and brightly-coloured, just the thing to attract kids. I suppose you think the IDF and their masters "didn't know what they were doing" when they left 'em there? Huh? Stupid thing is, Keith, I sort of already know what you're gonna say next...


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 03:49 AM

Lebanon -2006:
IDF hit 832 sites in Southern Lebanon with "Cluster Munitions" the majority of which were delivered in the form of artillery shells and rockets. One quarter of the sub-munitions dropped were duds

Resulting casualties - 28 killed and 186 wounded
As of December 2012, the LMAC data indicated 663 casualties (154 killed; 509 injured) from unexploded submunitions, of which 18% (120) were children.

The IDF identified the sites targeted and gave details of the munitions used, no civilian areas were targeted, they also handed over maps detailing where landmines had been laid. No such information was supplied by Hezbollah.

No mention from Steve Shaw of the "Cluster Munitions" fired by Hezbollah during the same conflict from Southern Lebanon into Israel. Hezbollah fired Chinese-manufactured cluster munitions into Israel civilian targets, using 122-mm rocket launchers, hitting Kiryat Motzkin, Nahariya, Karmiel, Maghar, and Safsufa. The 113 rockets fired killed 44 civilians and injured thousands.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 04:23 AM

"No mention from Steve Shaw of the "Cluster Munitions" fired by Hezbollah"
And still no mention by you or any of your pro-Zionist buddies of the fact that there is a peace conference in progress which has been virtually brought to its knees by Israel's continuing development of illegal sites, its incursion into sovereign territory and its mounting of a security operation in a refugee camp and killing three of the refugees.
Scurrying behind past conflicts (while carefully avoiding the long-term atrocities of a state that would have been long publicly declared "terrorist" had it not been for the protection of over 100 UN vetoes) seems to be a built-in tactic of you atrocity deniers.
Have you any thoughts on the Peace Conference Terminus; more to the point - have you any thoughts?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Teribus
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:01 AM

Wrong "Christmas" I did -

"To those who witter on about "Palestinian" Land - I would like them to show me what borders actually define this land."

There is the question for you or one of your Arab "palestinian" mates to answer simply define "their" borders, the borders of the State of Palestine.

They will not do that however because that poses the "Palestinian leadership" in the West bank and in Gaza with a problem, because if they define "their" borders in order to complain about "illegal" settlements they automatically acknowledge the existence and the right to existence of the sovereign state of Israel, something they simply cannot allow themselves to do and THAT is why all peace talks have failed since 1947.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:12 AM

I'm quite happy for you to point out what Hezbollah does. I haven't got much time for them either, to be honest. But what you're missing here is that I was responding to Keith's revisionism-by-omission, followed, as ever, by his revisionism-by-revisionism. Thing is, Teribus, one sometimes responds to posts to try to restore a balance that one perceives to be lacking. You can't expect every post from every poster to be a chapter out of the official history of the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:54 AM

"To those who witter on about "Palestinian" Land - I would like them to show me what borders actually define this land."
Which has nothing whatever to do with the deliberate wrecking of the conference by your terrorist mates and it is certainly no comment on how you feel about their spoiler tactics - which means that future generations of Palestinian and Israeli parents can look forward to their children being brought home in body bags.
I take it that for you and your mates, the only future you see is one that is achieved by tanks and chemical weapons and massacring refugees?
As I said - no thoughts on the conference, in fact, no thought at all
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:02 AM

I was responding to Keith's revisionism-by-omission, followed, as ever, by his revisionism-by-revisionism.
No Steve.
You said this about me,
You're a laugh a minute, Keith. One of those people who can persuade themselves of anything if they try hard enough.

I asked you to identify any error in my post, but you were unable to find even one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:32 AM

Keith, all your posts on Israel are one big error. In that you simply don't get it, and don't want to get it. You must have an awful lot of time on your hands, in spite of going over the same old ground again and again and again, to want to drag someone else into your quagmire. No thanks. I'll say what I think and you can like it or lump it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:47 AM

Cut the crap.
You can identify no error in any post.
If you could, you would.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Teribus
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 09:02 AM

If the Arabs of "Palestine" cannot and will not define what they see as being "their" borders then there can be be no "theft" of land from them by the Israelis.

"which means that future generations of Palestinian and Israeli parents can look forward to their children being brought home in body bags."

Over the last 66 years it would appear that neither side seems to have a problem with that prospect, if fact that is the established norm for the region. Judging by rates of attrition, the whole of what was defined as being the Mandated Territory of Palestine in 1923, after Trans-Jordan was created as an exclusively Arab State, will end up being called Israel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 11:43 AM

" the Arabs of "Palestine" cannot and will not define what they see as being "their" borders then there can be be no "theft" of land from them by the Israelis."
The necessity for over 100 U.S.vetoes shows that the world knows differently, as you do otherwise there would be no harm in sitting around a conference table and discussing it nor a reason for your mob
even acknowledging that there is a conference taking place.
Chickenshit
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 02:14 PM

Israel did make a big gesture of reconciliation for the peace talks by releasing so many convicted terrorists.
Hezbolla's gesture was to take a break from slaughtering Syrians and attempt the murder of some Israeli soldiers, and some ordinary Jewish folk and kids with their illegal missiles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 02:58 PM

A con - they smashed up the "peace conference that dare not speak it's name" - well - you won't anyway - or Terminus or Boo Boo as for Beardie the Wierdy
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 03:19 PM

Israel did make a big gesture of reconciliation for the peace talks by releasing so many convicted terrorists.

Nice work, Keith. Now tell us how many Israelis (terrorists or not) are held by Hezbollah or Hamas. When you've told us that, move on to tell us how many Palestinians (don't forget to include the women and kids, by the way) are held by Israel without charge or trial. Don't forget to go back a few years, Keith. After all, you have been defending Israel against all comers for a few years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 03:59 PM

Whenever they have captured a Jew, they exchange them or their remains for large numbers of convicted terrorists.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 04:03 PM

AND the ones released were CONVICTED killers. They had had a trial, and been found guilty of murder.

But Jimmy the JewHater thinks that killing Jews is just fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:19 PM

Hey chaps, I wasn't really asking you about convicted (define...) "terrorists". I was asking you about men, women and children held without charge or trial, often for years. Embarrassing, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:55 PM

And what right do Israelis have to defend themselves from those trying to kill them, after all they're fucking Jews and besides they control the US government, the world's press, the banks and they drink the blood of non Jewish babies, right Stevie boy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:06 PM

Heck with Syria...

Put the energy into pushing the hell out of Israel to quit with settlements and to get behind a settlement...

This one issue is the centerpiece of the Al-Qaeda recruitment program...

Get this off our backs... We have given Israel enough over the years to reasonably expect them to not work cross purpose with out interests...

Israel, in acting poorly, is hurting it's own self...

Stop the settlements now...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:11 PM

"But Jimmy the JewHater thinks that killing Jews is just fine."
Are you still insisting that it was the "Jews" and not the Israelis who massacred Arabs when the Brits left Palestine, that it was the "Jews" who dropped chemical weapons on civilians, shelled hospitals and schools, massacres 3,500 refugees at Sabra/Shatila, moved entire communities of Bedoins onto toxic sites, created an apartheid state...... and would have been indicted for war crimes and human rights abuses.
Veeery interesting.
I would have thought it was the Israelis - but if you insist these are "Jewish" crimes - who am I to argue?
Keep it up Brucie - you're making it very easy for the rest of us
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:19 PM

"you're making it very easy for the rest of us"

Yes, hating comes very easily to some it seems.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:38 PM

"Yes, hating comes very easily to some it seems."
Only Antisemites who blame Jews for Israel's war crimes
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:48 PM

Huh???

War crimes are war crimes, no matter who commits them...

No???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 09:02 PM

I have no idea what he's on about Bobert, nor do I think does he.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 01:58 AM

"War crimes are war crimes, no matter who commits them...
No???"
Yes of course they are - I was referring to our little man here who is supporting Israeli war crimes.
"Stop the settlements now.."
I agree with you entirely - welcome to being called an Antisemite by Bobad and Brucie here, for suggesting that Israel should stop building settlements
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Teribus
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 06:10 AM

"Put the energy into pushing the hell out of Israel to quit with settlements and to get behind a settlement...

This one issue is the centerpiece of the Al-Qaeda recruitment program..."


Utter rubbish!!

Al-Qaeda;
Hamas;
Fatah;
Hezbollah;
The Muslim Brotherhood;
Lebanon;
Syria;
Jordan;
Egypt;
Iran;
Turkey;
Any other Arab State you could mention.

None of the above could give a toss for the Arabs of Palestine, and that has been proved time and time again over the past 66 years (The Lebanese, the Jordanians, the Egyptians actually imprisoned the Palestinians, the latter two in camps located on Palestinian land that they themselves had stolen - The Syrians do not even let Palestinians into their country after the shit Arafat tried to pull in Jordan - see Black September)

The Arabs of Palestine are simply useful pawns to be dragged out and paraded every time their "leaders" and their allies want another hand out (None of which ever filters down to genuinely benefit the "Palestinians")


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 09:17 AM

"...welcome to being called an Antisemite by Bobad and Brucie here, for suggesting that Israel should stop building settlements"

Show me where I have called anyone an antisemite for suggesting that Israel should stop building settlements. You can't because it is a lie and you are a lying piece of shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 11:04 AM

""And what right do Israelis have to defend themselves from those trying to kill them, after all they're fucking Jews and besides they control the US government, the world's press, the banks and they drink the blood of non Jewish babies, right Stevie boy?""

There are only three people on this thread talking about Jews and all three are "Israel can do no wrong" apologists.

All three have utterly failed to show the slightest anti Jewish bias in their opponents because there isn't any!!

Yet one arsehole persists in using the name ""Jim the Jew Hater"" because his every utterance is so devoid of evidence, truth, or logic that personal abuse is his one debating trick.

Decrying the atrocious record and actions of a government is not, and never can be racist.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 11:42 AM

There are millions of Jews in almost every country on the planet, who are native to those countries and who have no traceable ancestors native to what is now Israel.

Their nationality is that of whatever country they were born in.

Their religion is Judaism.

Israel consists of native born Jews, Muslims, some Christians and what are referred to as returning Jews, most of whom are of European birth.

The Israeli government is not a Jewish government. It is the government of the above mixture.

Comment on that government is not about Jews. It is about the reprehensible actions of the organisation itself.

I am utterly disgusted, after the way that we were slagged off for even mentioning the Holocaust, to find one of our rabid Israeli apologists trying to paint a fellow member as a supporter of the Nazi Blood Libel.

You have sunk to new depths and are beneath contempt Bobad!!

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 11:44 AM

DonT,

YOUR failure to demand that those who agree with you follow the rules YOU complain I am breaking prove you are not entitled to complain.

BullshitBobert claims all who oppose ANY Obama action are Racist KKKrs- YET YOU SAY NOTHING.

Greggie the racist ( "Black Democrat" is read by him as "Dumb Ni**er") makes personnal attacks AND YOU SAY NOTHING.


So shut the fuck up about me stating the truth that some here have shown themselves to be Jew Haters.





Since the ARABS are referring to killing Jews, and not just Israelis, and have attacked JEWS worldwide, not just Israelis, it is fair to use that term.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 12:11 PM

"his every utterance is so devoid of evidence, truth, or logic that personal abuse is his one debating trick."


Then show THAT, you lying scum sucker. I HAVE STATED facts- If YOU don't ilk them, SHOW THAT THEY ARE WRONG instead of attacking ME.


I give back what I am attacked with- Argue FACTS, and you will get facts. ATTACK ME, and I will do my best to show you for the bigot you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 01:00 PM

Greggie the racist ( "Black Democrat" is read by him as "Dumb Ni**er")

You really do think that if you repeat that lie enough, people will believe it, dontcha, BullshitHorseshitBruce?


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 01:50 PM

"Show me where I have called anyone an Antisemite for suggesting that Israel should stop building settlements."
Throughout this and virtually every thread you have gone on supporting Israeli atrocities by hiding behind done-and-dusted, long established history history.
You have consistently refused to comment on the settlements and when the pressure is put on we become Antisemitic or "Jew-hater"
When Israel's crimes are put up for you to disprove or explain - same thing.
Nobody but you has mentioned "Jews" in relation to Israeli war crimes other than you.
Never thought I would come across an antisemitic Zionist - just goes to show, you're never to old to learn - you somewhat shallow bullying thug (or should that be "would-be thug if you had the bottle to actually do anything about your thuggish aspirations.
God knows, Boo Boo isn't the brightest starfish in the sand-bucket, but at least he confines himself behind meaningless cut-n-pastes
I was quite surprised a few months ago when I heard a former head of Mossad describe the Israeli regime as 'Nazi' - reading your postings, it makes sense.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 02:02 PM

""Then show THAT, you lying scum sucker. I HAVE STATED facts- If YOU don't ilk them, SHOW THAT THEY ARE WRONG instead of attacking ME.""

NO YOU LYING, BIGOTED, AMERICAN PRICK!

YOU put up just one anti Jewish comment I have ever posted!!

YOU are the aggressor here, like your beloved Israeli government.

Prove your point or PISS OFF!

Reading posts from the three of you makes me feel like I need to take a shower when I log out, to wash the slime off.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 04:03 PM

Don,
This Braindead is the only one to have attempted Israeli crimes with being "jewish" - in doing so it is he who is Antisemitic.
Hiding behind six million dead victims of Nazism is about as low as you can sink.
He has put up no defence for Israeli behaviour other than those from the script which he prepared earlier - ask him something that is not on it - "Does not compute, does not....." Isaac Assimov couldn't have made a better job of creating a robot
Don't hold your breath waiting for an intelligent response.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 04:43 PM

Well this thread has once again been defiled by the usual haters spewing their venomous bile all over it. Have fun pissing into the wind gentlemen. TTFN.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 05:43 PM

Oh, and one more thing DonT, you don't seem to have a problem with your fellow traveler smearing us as Islamophobes do you you fucking hypocrite - so take your righteous indignation, roll it up into a nice fat wad and shove it up where the sun don't shine - there that's a good lad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 06:13 PM


Well this thread has once again been defiled by the usual haters spewing their venomous bile all over it


Like BullshitBruce, for instance?

Gee, BooBad, taking your ball & going home, are ya? Or are you following Harry Truman's admonition?


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 06:28 PM

You're welcome to stay and wallow in your friends' cesspool Greg but I have reached my tolerance limit for the stench.


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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 06:30 PM

Oh and 500 - adieu my friends adieu.


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