MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Sep 20 - 08:13 AM

Mid 2021 I expect a Covid vaccine wil be available for nearly a quarter of all Americans. My adverse reaction to Ford's swine flu vaccine was a one in 10 million reaction so don't worry about phase 3 trials and safety. Rare events may occur but unless Trump is involved you will be safe.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 08:35 AM

MOM!! Gitcherass back up where you belong! Second from the bottom indeed!!! Never in all my born days....

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 10:32 AM

This is MOAB Annex post # 1362.

1362 was the year in which The English Act made English, rather than French, the official language in law courts. If it weren't for 1362, we'd have to try to argue our way out of traffic fines in French!

"Je n'allais pas trop vite!"

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Sep 20 - 05:58 PM

Mon avocat dit, "Cherchez la femme! Y los dinero!"

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 11:33 AM

Voulez vous couchez avec moi votre honour?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 04:15 PM

Here comes the mature pandemic. Even with the downsized administration numbers we are at 1,000 deaths a day and 6.2 million contagious infections in the USA. The total number of deaths could double by Jan. 1st. As Rap said the real number of deaths may never be known. Just as people are exhausted of keeping their guard up we will be going indoors, kids to schools, bars to open and gathering at the yule log, all while the number of infections sky rocket. Some call it the second wave. I call it the lingering Trump disaster. LTD

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 20 - 04:19 PM

Despite my doom and gloom post I'm surprisingly in a good mood.
Watching things go down the tubes is the ultimate entertainment:^)

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 20 - 06:41 PM

Good News
The FDA said Phoenix Biotechnology provided evidence of a history of medicinal use of Nerium oleander (a sweet smelling but deadly flower leaves and stems) extracts and some evidence of preclinical and clinical studies, but the safety evidence was not "qualitatively and quantitatively" related to oleandrin as a supplement.
"Studies performed in advanced cancer patients generally cannot establish the safety of your ingredient in its intended population of normal healthy adults, and you did not provide any information to indicate that such extrapolation between different populations would be scientifically valid," the FDA's letter said.
The FDA's letter did not mention using the extract as a treatment for Covid-19.
My Pillow Guy Mike Lindell, who has no scientific background or medical training, has said previously he was so enthusiastic about the product as a Covid-19 treatment that he had started taking the extract as a prophylactic and has encouraged his friends to do the same.
He had brought his research to Housing and Urban Development Secretary Dr. Ben Carson, a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. Lindell said in July that Carson was "just amazed," and thought "it was very exciting seeing all the data."
After Lindell met with Trump in July, he described the President's response to the extract as "enthusiastic." Lindell told CNN in July that Trump wanted the FDA to "do its course."
When asked about the extract in August, Trump said he had "heard about" oleandrin and said, "We'll look at it, we'll look at it, we're looking at a lot of different things." It's unclear if Trump raised the issue with the FDA. If Mike Lindel follows the rules he could get rat shit approved as a food supplement if proven safe.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Sep 20 - 10:38 PM

Oleandrin as medication. Well, diarsenic trioxide is used in certain blood cancers, but I wouldn't just chow down on it because the President said it was a good idea.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Sep 20 - 11:48 PM

I'm invited to join a noon Zoom meeting tomorrow with other museum volunteers, and they're sending lunch, to be delivered sometime between 9 and 11:30am. The odd thing about this - they didn't tell us what they're planning to send or ask what we want to eat. I'm wondering if we'll get a last minute query tomorrow, or if I missed something on the invitation. They took us out for lunch back in January, and if someone kept track of what we ordered at that nice Italian restaurant and are planning to send that, okay. But I doubt anyone had a clue that September was going to be like this back in January.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Sep 20 - 08:39 AM

Its the thought that counts except when it comes to lunch :^)
Sounds like a nice thing.
Government virtual meetings and Zoom meetings are not very nice
and would NEVER offer lunch.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Sep 20 - 11:49 AM

In ten minutes I'll be on a "Go To Meeting" meeting.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Sep 20 - 07:04 PM

I, being of sound mind and body do hereby post that I bequeath upon my death, 15 instruments to mudcat.org under the direction of Bill D and Maggie as executors. Stand up Bass, Triton piano, 5 string electic cello, 12 string guitar, Gibson Flat Iron Cadet mandolin, Martin Guitar, Mitchell steel ukelele, 3 more baritone ukes, Autoharp, banjo, tropical guitar, dark brown one piece back fiddle and glockenspiel.

To Rap a Roman Senator dagger. One of 9 that killed Ceasar.
BWL George Carlin books

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Sep 20 - 10:03 PM

There are an awful lot of strings attached to that Mudcat bequest.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 20 - 06:35 AM

As a child if my school had a sax there would have been no strings in my life and my life would have been entirely different.
All they had was a cello. Thats the power of a tiny quantum shift in life.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 20 - 09:21 PM

My school had two rocks and a stick to beat on a log. All percussion, no melody.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 10:20 AM

My elementary school's approach to instrumental music was very simple: If you want to learn to play an instrument, talk your parents into buying it and paying for lessons. It's not our job. We only do classroom sing-alongs.

I don't recall having an instrument in my hand until I got my first guitar. Classrooms had pianos, but they were strictly for teachers. We weren't allowed to touch them.

That many classrooms nowadays have a ukulele and/or recorder for each student is a paradigm shift in the philosophy of music instruction.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 12:24 PM

When I first took the cello home bullies of course took it apart for me. I'm still putting cellos together.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 12:45 PM

There are lots of player pianos but very few player cellos

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 03:33 PM

Why does the sun go on shining?
Why does the sea rush to shore?
Don't they know it's the end of the world?
'Cause Trump rules the world evermore
Why do the birds go on singing?
Why do the stars glow above?
Don't they know it's the end of the world?
It ended when the Dems lost the race
I wake up in the morning and I wonder
Why nothing is the same as it was
I can't understand, no, I can't understand
How cults go on the way that they do
Why does my heart go on beating?
Why do these eyes of mine cry?…

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 09:01 PM

Air tankers flying all afternoon and the smoke seems to be thickening. Tomorrow I see the doctor.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 20 - 09:18 PM

I was fortunate my NYS school had 3 highly talented teachers, The choir sang in Notre Dame, The orchestra went to State competition and
and drama used both to do a different Rogers and Hammerstien every year. We did have to cut the fantasy ballet from Carousel since it was in 9 different keys. I played cello despite nerve reatachment and french horn despite the 9 iron accident. High School was still a battleground 8^o When a graduate came back from Nam and showed us his machine gun wounds, I doubled down to become college bound.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 07:49 AM

When I was a kid people were tall
there were 5 billion people on Earth
Parents knew everything I didn't

When I was a kid it was fun to fall
To splash about or roll on the turf
Now they would call it an incident.

Now most folks are short
There's 7 billion souls
and parents are rarely right

Now it floods at the ports
some days I feel old
and friends just want to fight

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 11:15 AM

When I was a kid we measured rain in inches
Now rain is measured in feet
it flows down our toxic street
as a kid we rafted the creek

As a kid we trained to duck&cover
Now we can not even hide in bunker
Its to late for some who to try to breath air
Without Walter Cronkite the news isn't fair

Some things have changed
and some are the same
if ya can't love your neighbor
its really a shame.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 06:32 PM

Medical appts today, flu shot tomorrow, dermatologist Thursday.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 06:33 PM

And a VA doctor appt. Friday.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 09:58 PM

. . . and what's new, Rapparee,
about the grasshoppers?

13 Sept post. "a stick to beat on a log" ...
this is a music subject, but:

anybody remember that Filipino "Tinikling" thing
that was in three-quarter time, and
two lines of people pair up and sit on the floor,
and each pair takes a pair of bamboo sticks and
moves the sticks around on the floor, in the space between them:

tap, tap, slide-together
tap, tap, slide-together

and there is this little tune that goes with it that
somebody sings,
and everybody else
has to dance this little dance on either side of the
tapping bamboo sticks ...
without getting your foot caught when the sticks get to the
slide-together part ...

I suppose I had better use Joe Offer's well-promoted
search/filter features
and see if there is a "tinikling" thread.

In grade school when PhysEd would make us do this thing,
we had really competitive athletic kids in our class
who would flip into total high-anxiety freak-outs
over these bamboo-stick dances.
It helped if one was slightly musical, though.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 10:25 PM

Busy week, Rap. I make a note in my calendar of anyplace I go on the day as my own early approach to "contact tracing" just in case it's needed. Next week I have a dentist appointment - and am probably going. I postponed it from three months ago. Hopefully it isn't into the COVID-abyss.

BWL, how's the weather forecast for your area?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 10:09 AM

Bee-Dub, are you flooded?   Can I mail you a life jacket?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 10:57 AM

Until fairly recently, myxosporeans were considered to be protists, offshoots of the eukaryotic line that are neither plants, animals nor fungi. In 1995, however, Mark Siddall, then at the Virginia Institute of Marine Science, and his colleagues argued that myxosporeans are weird members of the cnidarians, the group that includes jellyfish and corals. Since then, genetic studies have bolstered that position.

Their location on the tree of life doesn’t explain how myxosporeans ended up with such strange traits. Myxosporeans boast some of the smallest known animal genomes. The genome of Kudoa iwatai, for example, is estimated to be a mere 22.5 megabases, considerably smaller than that of any other cnidarian genome. It’s less than one-twentieth the size of the genome of Polypodium hydriforme, a closely related cnidarian parasite.

Moreover, their genomes have not just been catastrophically reduced. They specifically lack certain genes thought to be essential for multicellular life. It’s not clear how or why a complex multicellular creature discarded these seemingly necessary genes along with huge chunks of its DNA.

Yet Alexander Panchin, a senior researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences, and his colleagues have an intriguing if controversial hypothesis to explain it. Early this year, they proposed that myxosporeans initially branched off from their cnidarian kin not as independent animals but as tumors.

Evolutionary Scandals
Panchin knows the idea of cancer-derived animals sounds far-fetched — so much so that, in the paper, he and his co-authors refer to them as Scandals (an acronym for “speciated by cancer development animals”).

At first, Scandals were just a thought experiment. While Panchin was writing about transmissible cancers, he heard his colleagues express surprise at the genes for complex tissues that were turning up in certain unusual but simple parasitic animals. Further conversations led to what Panchin calls the “fantastic” idea that such simple parasites could have cancerous origins. “So we took all the data and we proposed this hypothesis,” he said.

According to Panchin’s three-step scenario, a Scandal would start off as a cancer, but not just any cancer. It would have to be transmissible, so that it wouldn’t die when its host did. Then the cancer would have to spread to other species, and then codependently evolve multicellularity. Panchin placed the Scandal tumors in sea water along with Hydro Sporodean jellfish and indeed a new species arose in the new jeuvenile immortal planulae.

In 2016 Panchin was declared missing and his lab was found in shambles. Mark Siddall said the biology world will mourn the loss of Dr. Panchin.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 09:26 PM

Oh, I love it when people talk dirty to Mom!

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 09:16 AM

Here, Mom. More excitement for you!

For the classic LT, once the contagion spreads from the initial active nodes through the network, the system eventually reaches a stationary configuration if the threshold, the network structure, the diffusion parameters, and the focal nodes are fixed. In other words, the classic LT is path-independent if nodes can be repeatedly chosen, e.g., a node that is not activated at this time may be activated at one time in the future. In this model, a path-dependent process entails that the diffusion result may vary for different paths of diffusion, while a path-independent process is one for which the diffusion result is always consistent no matter the path of diffusion. Fig 2 gives an illustration of path independence in the classic LT: if the threshold T is assigned to be 0.5, then it does not matter whether we first activate node 4 or node 5; the final result is the same with active nodes 4 and 5, and inactive nodes 6, 7, 8. However, it should be noted that LT may be path-dependent if inactive nodes can be only chosen once or a limited number of times.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 10:14 AM

In other words that was a statement of approximations without a plot or story line. The languages of Physics and Econonomics are even harder.
The record for speaking entirely in acronyms is 7 minutes 42 seconds.
People complain about legalese but William Barr AG has a way of simplifying it with comments such as "ALL PROTESTORS, DEMOCRATS AND candidates who challenge DONALD TRUMP SHALL BE CHARGED WITH SEDITION."

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 05:06 PM

I'm guilty of sedition fer sure, I'm fairly sedentary.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 07:52 PM

Hi, Mom!

I survived Hurricane Sally with no major issues. No damage to person, pets, structures or autos. Lots of limbs down (though I suspect some of them may be branches in disguise). Power was only out for ten hours or so and cell/Internet was down for a day. The bridge near the south end of the road I live on is underwater, so trips to the south entail a detour north and then back south via roads with no (or higher) bridges. That's okay. I'll just stay home. Got food, water, toilet paper, two unread books, and 18 guitars. What do I need to go to town for?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 08:12 PM

You lucky basterd. Good for you. Here is a gift of time you can use as you wish. https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-is-time-a-history-of-physics-biology-clocks-and-culture-20200504/

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 08:52 PM

Now that you have Internet you can download tons of books (and it won't amount to an ounce).

I recommend It Can't Happen Here. From 1935, this dystopian novel fits today's political situation remarkably well. Depressingly well. But it's Sinclair Lewis so it is also entertainingly well.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 12:20 PM

An easter egg grants access to Mudcat 2 (the search for more BS).
Special features include an idiot free digital world, access to posting in the afterlife, free IP, tuition free PHD programs and limited omniscience .
The Easter egg can be found somewhere in the original (not Annex) MOAB

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 08:52 PM

Why search for limited omniscience when I AM totally omniscient already?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 11:56 PM

There's no such thing as limited omniscience. It's an oxymoron.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 10:54 AM

No, I am still great friends with the Oxymoron family and there's nobody named An. There's Bill, Theresa, Sheri, Helen, the twins Billy and Willy, and the dog Fido.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 11:39 AM

I've had more exposure to prescient lately, rather than omniscient. Mr. P would be Sinclair Lewis, whose 1935 novel It Can't Happen Here is a playbook for the GOP this year.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 01:04 AM

Here comes Beta, a storm in a year where they used up the whole list of alphabetical names so now they're restarting with the Greek alphabet.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 04:47 PM

One day Nazis, Trump and McConnel will just disappear like a miracle but virus won't die of old age.

The good ol days of the new normal aren't what they used to be.

Denying the dieing wish of an old bat is what makes it more delicious.
Trump tweet.

The AGE OF MISINFORMATION is over.
Q Anon.

Republicans agree to a 10 trillon dollar stimulus package to Wall St.

Trump's omnicience is limited only by the greatness in his own mind.
(he's a bleached hydro oxymoron)

But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of Covid. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of Covid as a little child, shall in no wise survive unscathed."

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 20 - 08:11 PM

“How many valiant men, how many fair ladies, breakfast with their kinfolk and the same night supped with their ancestors in the next world! The condition of the people was pitiable to behold. They sickened by the thousands daily, and died unattended and without help. Many died in the open street, others dying in their houses, made it known by the stench of their rotting bodies. Consecrated churchyards did not suffice for the burial of the vast multitude of bodies, which were heaped by the hundreds in vast trenches, like goods in a ships hold and covered with a little earth.”
                                          -Giovanni Boccaccio

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 06:55 AM

Answer: About a 1,000 a day in the US. The stench of rotting flesh is hidden today by the use of civilized refridgerated semi trucks.

What is differnt today are the crowds of cheerleaders for the virus.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 20 - 01:27 PM

Mr. Open: Hey Donuel you must be ecstatic about Trump's stroke and that he hasn't recovered his speech.

Donuel: Ecstatic? That means out of one's mind. No I'm not ecstatic.
I'm sad, it's a lonely end for a lonely man. In that way he truly was a common man.

Mr. Open: You hypocrite, you hated him. You never had anything good to

Donuel: I understood the mistakes he made to please his father. He was inspired by the wrong God.

Mr Open: I thought you said you were an athiest - and how could Trump be lonely, he had crowds breathing poison just to see him.

Donuel: Yes, that was some sick inspiration but thats how vulnerable and desperate people are when it comes to the power of sharing hate.
He had a hole in him he could never fill and didn't respect the knowledge that could have saved him. No I didn't respect him but I can feel sorry for him and his innocent followers.

Mr. Open: Greedy suck up innocents my ass. They were in it for the money!

Donuel: Not all of them. Look, the man is in hell now. I suggest he have a long stay.

My Open: Well amen to that.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:18 PM

Rapparee, are you free of the grasshoppers at last?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:50 PM

A worm's eye view of the universe is grounding.
But only tasting and feeling sound is its world.
The mighty grasshopper can see his horizon and fly.
Each of the many worlds have their special pleasures.
The pleasure of arriving at Sirius B is reserved for X
but not man

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 20 - 09:52 PM

MOM!!! MOM!!!
You get up there!!!!! Right NOW!!!!