Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 10 Jul 23 - 06:48 PM The man who can't outrump Trump has squeezed the last drop of bigot juice from the bigot fruit and is still 20 points behind. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jul 23 - 07:27 PM INFORMAL used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true. "I was literally blown away by the response I got" |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Ebbie Date: 10 Jul 23 - 07:32 PM I get your point, Stilly, but I would argue that being 'literally' blown away mentally or emotionally is a more acceptable use, if only because it is not tangible. Now back to tRump, who literally has no concept of niceties. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jul 23 - 11:33 PM The Fulton County District Attorney has her ducks lined up. Grand jurors who will consider Trump charges to be selected Tuesday The selection of two Fulton County grand juries will be made Tuesday, with one of the panels expected to decide whether to hand up an indictment for alleged criminal interference in the 2020 presidential election. Trump is busy trying to delay the hearing for Nauta (his attorneys are involved in all of this, despite Nauta having his own attorneys, so there is some kind of linkage there). Every delay they manage pushes a trial closer to the primary season. Let's see if Willis can trip him up. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 11 Jul 23 - 07:16 AM ???? ????????? ???????????????? ?????????, (CCCP) The Criminally Corrupt Crony Party is attacking the law itself along with the arms of the law because they have no defense under the law. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Jul 23 - 10:45 PM Taking a detour back to the civil cases brought by E. Jean Carroll, Trump loses immunity shield in E Jean Carroll defamation lawsuit, he lost in the first case, and in the second, where he was "immune" by virtue of being president, he no longer has that protection. The department previously maintained Mr Trump was legally immune as he was president when he made remarks in 2019. There is more at the link. He is, as AG Barr said recently, in a different context, "toast." Again. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 23 - 10:47 AM Trump won't have FOX for support. Neither will De Santis. A guy named J D Vance will. BTW Fox is sued again over defaming Jeff Epps as an agent provocateur. This was such a pain in the ass for Murdoch that he got an ass-hole transplant but the transplant rejected Rupert. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jul 23 - 10:49 AM DOJ juggles prosecuting Trump with its duty to safeguard the office of the presidency There’s some cognitive dissonance at the Justice Department, which is trying to put Trump behind bars while fulfilling its mission to defend the office from civil suits. In a courthouse in Florida, federal prosecutors are trying to put Donald Trump in jail. But in Washington, D.C., a different wing of the Justice Department is trying to shield him from being forced to testify under oath in a long-running lawsuit. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 13 Jul 23 - 11:56 AM .... Ach, I might have known your second-to-last quote was from the Beeb site. They have a tendency that's all too evident in the English print meeja: the delusion that a full stop is a paragraph marker. I've no idea where that came from. It's excessively irritating. My daughter, every now and then used to proudly show me a sentence in our local paper, with a ring around a full stop in the middle of a paragraph. End of rant. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jul 23 - 10:02 PM I know what you mean, I used to pull the sentences together into a regular grammatical paragraph when I pulled up quotes. They break them up so there are gaps between the sentences on phones and tablets. The look of a solid wall of text, as little as there is on a phone, is still hard to read. After a while you just give up and paste it the way they parse it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Jul 23 - 04:38 AM Another worrying article in The Economist How MAGA Republicans plan to make Donald Trump’s second term count The more worrying things are "finishing the border wall, raising tariffs on allies and competitors alike, making unfunded tax cuts permanent and ending automatic citizenship for anyone born in the United States" but there are plenty more :-( |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 14 Jul 23 - 07:45 AM > They break them up so there are gaps between the sentences on phones > and tablets. --- Ahhhh: that explains it, but doesn't excuse it on sensible displays. It reads to me .... like speeches .... by certain people .... who all appear .... to have been taught .... public speaking .... by Lady Di's .... asthmatic speech coach. But point taken about blocks of solid text. That's used a lot in click-through legal boilerplate, EXACERBATED BY SHOUTING; the resultant MEGO effect (Mine Eyes Glazeth Over) is, methinks, entirely intentional. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: gillymor Date: 14 Jul 23 - 09:10 AM Mike Lindell is biting the pillow. He's earned it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Jul 23 - 12:46 PM He's auctioning off the fixtures this month, they talked about it on MSNBC earlier this week. He happily got in bed with Trump and his allies, along with a couple of other online sales CEOs. From 2021: MyPillow C.E.O.’s Trump Conspiracy Theories Put Company on the Spot Retailers have stopped carrying its products, though Mike Lindell, the founder and face of MyPillow, blamed “cancel culture” and said he didn’t think it would last. Another one whose fortunes have sagged is Patrick Byrne who ran Overstock.com. It was so odd to have these conspiracy theorists turning up as presidential advisors. Only Donald Trump would manage that (though Nancy Reagan apparently had some California Psychics or horoscope folks in her ear through the years.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Jul 23 - 01:16 PM My Pillow's bankruptcy is made in the USA. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Jul 23 - 01:46 PM Snide comment alert :^/ Give Nancy a break. After her husband was shot in the heart, her anxiety steered her to Jeane Dixon. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 18 Jul 23 - 06:52 AM The conservative Heritage Foundation think tank has expanded their strategy to make the USA A FASCIST DICTATORSHIP with an Imperial Presidency with the power to eliminate any dissent from any branch of government, civil servants and individuals. It is all in black and white out loud fascism. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-presidential-plans-second-term-power-election-2024-rcna94628 19 States have begun to seize the medical records by Attorney Generals of anyone who may have had an abortion in any state or gender treatments. The fascist purge is only starting with this vulnerable part of society. The true enemy will be any democracy-centered democrat. History shows a similar Nazi act called the Enabling Act having a similar goal but with different scape goats. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Ebbie Date: 18 Jul 23 - 11:31 AM Donuel, FFS, Reagan was not shot "in the heart. "Left armpit, just two inches from the heart." sheesh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jul 23 - 12:54 PM As annoying as HIPAA can be for various patients and letting family have access, you'd think the medical institutions would stand up to the AG - private is private. Sounds like there must be a federal remedy for this one. Trump breaks the news again - telling people this morning that he received another billet-doux from Jack Smith. Trump says he's received target letter from special counsel Jack Smith in Jan. 6 probe "It was not immediately clear what the charges are or whether anyone else received a target letter. People who have been informed that they are targets of criminal probes are often, but not always, indicted." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jul 23 - 04:06 PM In an MSNBC article there is a photo Trump Faces Possible Indictment in Capitol Attack Investigation that is obnoxious - look at the side of the hat. It is actually another admission that he knows he lost, if you think about it. He's not "46" and wants to be "47." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 18 Jul 23 - 07:39 PM Like a superhero who has lost his powers, Trmp is vulnerable but are 3 pieces of kryptonite enough to end him before he gets his powers back? Stay tuned for Donuel's happy-hour Podcast 'Death-Despair and Despondency'. How close was the bullet to Reagan's heart? The report notes that the bullet in Reagan's left lung stopped only an inch from his heart and attributes his survival to fast thinking by the Secret Service and the partnership between a dedicated medical team and a remarkably courageous patient. SHEESH 2 inches bah @:^/. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 19 Jul 23 - 08:03 AM I believe people have limited free will capable of change but when I look at Trmp I see a totally one-dimensional person incapable of free will or change. He is the epitome of determinism. A god of self-centered greed and deceit. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 20 Jul 23 - 12:16 PM The unlikely change of plea to all his indictments might keep him out of jail. That plea could be Nolo contendere. Its the same plea that Spiro Agnew used. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Jul 23 - 01:28 PM Politico is reporting that because House majority leader McCarthy wouldn't endorse Trump, Trump is furious. So McCarthy promised to later this summer hold a vote to expunge Trump's two impeachments. Even if he were to pull it off, that is a bell that can't be unrung - twice. It's like telling the jury to disregard some inappropriate or non-admissible testimony. It's out there. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Jul 23 - 01:32 PM And Trump wants to be King. Or at least, a dictator. Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 21 Jul 23 - 04:08 PM Donald Trump scheduled to face trial in May 2024 over classified documents allegations "Trump's lawyers had resisted setting a trial date and said any trial should take place after the November 2024 US presidential election" |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 21 Jul 23 - 05:38 PM It is also interesting that "Friday's ruling came from US District Judge Aileen Cannon, who sits in Fort Pierce, Florida." Aileen Cannon "The Trump-appointed judge who will preside over his case" "Others contend that Cannon will ensure that he gets a fair shake. " 'It's impossible now for Trump to complain that he's got a judge that is biased against him,' said Edward Foley, a constitutional law professor at Ohio State University. "Thomas Holbrook, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, said Cannon is in a "tough position." " 'Almost no matter what she does, she's going to either feed into existing concerns about her potential bias or disappoint Trump supporters,' Holbrook said." (Note: I just picked that news item at random but it seems to present a balanced view.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 21 Jul 23 - 06:27 PM There's a bottom line here: there is nothing on the horizon which precludes him from standing again. And he will win. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jul 23 - 11:01 AM All things are possible. Dr Richard Feynman The judge heard that Trump claimed he was not guilty of RAPE and announced last week that by NYS law he was found guilty of RAPE. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Jul 23 - 11:33 AM Nope. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. The only reason Trump won the first time, even with a lower vote count than Hillary, was because of some of those swing states that her managers didn't think needed attention. No one is going to make that mistake again. Trump will still get the lower vote count and will lose, again. The fact that he tried to cheat in those same swing states in 2020 is one reason why so many indictments are coming his way. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jul 23 - 06:04 PM People say she should not have canceled her Michigan tour at the end but that could be sour grapes. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Jul 23 - 03:01 PM Trump had until Thursday (7/20) to appear before the most recent Grand Jury (Washington, D.C.) and didn't; last time he was given that opportunity I seem to recall it was less than a week before a hearing was called to offer up the indictment settled upon by the Grand Jury. So maybe this week the D.C. folks will get out ahead of the Georgia folks, who have plans for the first couple of weeks in August. Meanwhile the judge in the civil action by E. Jean Carroll has made it clear that Trump committed rape, even if the jury said sexual assault. Because Trump keeps trying to say he wasn't found guilty of rape. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 24 Jul 23 - 06:35 AM No more December trial date. Judge Cannon moved it to the end of May next Spring. Trump warns that his passionate supporters pose a clear and present danger and claims NOTHING WILL STOP WHAT IS COMING, NOTHING. Which is also a QAnon chant. I was wrong about the last capital insurrection but without Presidential powers another violent insurrection is less likely imo. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 23 - 01:09 PM The Battle of New Coups ---------------------------------------- CHORUS ------ Trump ran thru impeachments Trump ran thru indictments Trump ran thru the White House Where the oil money flows Trump ran so bad McConnell couldn't catch 'em He took our elections on the phone and in blood VERSES ------ Early in the winter Year of '16 Some mobsters in DC, put it on the line In a fight for the White House he took our innocence Shouting out the slogans make me great again CHORUS With Americans like Q Anon he bargained for himself A narcicist dictator, who often broke the law They said he owed them money He was a cheater and a beast And in the name of freedom he ate Mc Donald's feasts CHORUS As we move into 2024 There's still no end in sight Nazis beat themselves with chains While spoiling for a fight Donald Trump wants it his way Biden disagrees People everywhere Are talking filthy Sleaze CHORUS |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 23 - 04:54 PM By moving the Documents trial to May, that opens up the calendar for a December trail for one of these cases that has a lot less delicate content (dealing with classified documents means Trump's attorneys need clearance and one of them is slow-walking that already.) This could be the Atlanta trial or a Washington, D.C. trial. All is not lost. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 23 - 06:38 PM In a dictatorship acts of arrest, torture, and execution are endemic. If you don't think the new Republicans are not willing and capable of such savagery you are kidding yourself. If you think they are mean now, make Trump their fearless leader to end rational thought and democracy. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 23 - 08:26 PM I wonder about what our Supreme Court judges are thinking about tonight after seeing what has happened in Isreal. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 23 - 10:10 PM Increasing the size of the US court would be legal, but even that is something to do very carefully. Best to impeach Thomas and Alito. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 23 - 10:35 PM Oh, look, some of the loot has to be returned: Trump to Return Ancient Coins and Lamps to Israel’s Antiquities Agency The items have been at former President Donald J. Trump’s home in Florida since 2021, when they were presented to him during a Hanukkah celebration
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 25 Jul 23 - 11:14 PM Trump's troubles, and those of his allies, appear to be expanding geometrically, in a number of directions. A non-profit raised millions for Trump's border wall. Here's why a third man behind We Build the Wall has been sentenced "A Colorado businessman has received the longest prison sentenced yet imposed over a fraudulent scheme to raise money for Donald Trump's border wall. "Timothy Shea was sentenced to five years and three months in prison for his role in the We Build the Wall scheme, which prosecutors said raised more than $US25 million ($37 million). "Shea, 52, was also was ordered to forfeit $US1.8 million and to pay the same in restitution." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 26 Jul 23 - 11:08 AM Trump is a TV show host at heart. He should be featured on the many hoarding shows like https://www.movierewind.com/articles/everything-hoarders |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Jul 23 - 11:25 AM Giuliani lied. Everyone knew it. Giuliani won’t contest Georgia election workers’ claims that he falsely accused them of manipulating ballots In a heavily couched statement, he also conceded that his statements meet the “factual elements of liability” for Moss and Freeman’s claims that his attacks amounted to “intentional infliction of emotional distress.” But Giuliani is not abandoning his effort to fight the lawsuit altogether. An aide, Ted Goodman, said his concessions and acknowledgments were an effort to bypass the fact-gathering stage and move on to legal arguments about whether he can be held liable for the damages Moss and Freeman are seeking. He made their lives hell. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 31 Jul 23 - 07:30 PM Many of the people who fawned over Donald Trump or boasted 'you the man' are now about to say exactly what they think in court. This betrayal and disloyalty is pure kryptonite to Donald's soul. When his text is ALL CAPS it is the dying parts of him crying out. The more he is depicted as a fraud on steroids the more he is calling his opponents frauds. btw FL has no appointed public health official. It is no coincidence that Florida is the leprosy capital of the US with 20% of all US cases. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Aug 23 - 09:57 AM The barriers are up around the courthouse in Georgia, and the MSNBC and other news networks are letting their big name folks have a few days off now because as soon as the penny drops for Trump, whether in Georgia or Washington, D.C., they'll be on for many hours a day on each other's programs discussing the fine points. I listen for enough time to get the gist of what is happening then wait till there's a comprehensive story in the NY Times or the WaPo or even in the Wall Street Journal (different perspectives, certainly). I'll save my longer viewing for when the trials actually happen. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Aug 23 - 03:26 PM Things are bubbling. One of the hosts on MSNBC checked her phone on camera when it pinged, alerting her to a post (about the grand jury members leaving the building) - realtime stuff on the air without someone speaking into a earbud in her ear. The speculation now is whether the Justice Department will break the news with a press release or if Trump will beat them to it by announcing his own bad news (that he always spins and uses for fundraising.) For his PAC, this is probably good timing. They need another cause to use for raising money because apparently they're "nearly broke." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Aug 23 - 07:39 PM The next one has landed and is being discussed widely as the various talking heads work their way through the 45-page indictment. There are co-conspirators (unnamed at this point, but they've figured out who everyone is.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Aug 23 - 09:04 PM Emma's Revolution came out with a new song in June, "Re-Indicted." It's a classic. Time to listen to it again: https://emmasrevolution.com/ |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Aug 23 - 10:30 PM Nicely done! Randy Rainbow has a number of pointed parodies that deal with all of this. A couple of examples: Donald in the John With Boxes Sedition. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 23 - 08:41 AM I'm so indicted He's gonna bite it I'm less popular than him and I'm unindicted So it's decided I was...misguided? They know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they got you, they got you Don't be short-sighted Then help me fight it Well, if we have a good excuse, hey, I think they'll buy it Hey, let's all try it... |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 23 - 09:01 AM You may think this case is more important than the OJ case but it is unlikely that it will be televised. |