BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 02:37 PM

Spoken like a professional statistician.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 07:03 PM

Democrat Cornel West has announced his Green Party candidacy for President.
He is for truth and justice for the middle class and poor.
While no third-party candidate has received an electoral vote, he can introduce new ideas. If he had not run I would have hoped Michael Dyson would have.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 07:51 AM

Trump loyalist Navarro did not even put on a defense or call a single witness. It took the jury 2 hours to convict.
His fate is a lesson to others to show up when subpoenaed,

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 05:49 PM

Jack Smith has requested that the
Judge limit Trump's speech. Perhaps next month she will have a hearing to ask/tell Donald to not intimidate, threaten, and defame people involved in his case. The words gag order might be tossed around but a true gag order involves a real gag.

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From: Donuel
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 02:02 PM

Ya gotta hand it to Trump, he sure is ambitious. Not only does he have all Seven Deadly Sins, but he also has a few unique ones of his own creation.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 01:19 PM

By the Constitution, the House of Representatives has “the sole power of impeachment,” and the Senate “the sole power to try all impeachments.” When the President of the United States is tried on impeachment, the Chief Justice is to preside. The concurrence of two thirds of the Senate members present is necessary to convict. “The President, Vice-President, and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” But judgment cannot “extend further than to removal and disqualification to hold and enjoy and office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.” Thus it is obvious that the founders of the government meant to secure it effectually against all official corruption and wrong, by providing for process to be initiated at the will of the popular branch, and furnishing an easy, safe, and sure method for the removal of all unworthy and unfaithful servants.

The fly in the ointment is that an inquiry has always led to a 'partial' impeachment except for Nixon who resigned first. Also there is disagreement on what constitutes treason, high crimes and misdemeanors. It is entirely up to the House to say what crime is committed AND that an inquiry is not required for impeachment. Technically the House could lie about the crime and evidence for an impeachment vote. The Senate however would then acquit. https://time.com/6313452/impeachment-experts-biden-inquiry-weakest-us-history/

Impeachment is not as clear-cut as we think even if we like things to be neat and orderly. The House could say "Evidence, we don't need no stinking evidence. We just KNOW". I bring these possibilities up because we are living in strange times.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 01:29 PM

"It is entirely up to the House to say what crime is committed AND that an inquiry is not required for impeachment."
To be precise...
It is the House Committee in charge of impeachment that decides, not the entire House.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 23 - 07:00 PM

Speaker McCarthy is making Trump happy. Behind McCarthy's sad eyes, I don't think he is very committed to the Kabuki impeachment.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 08:55 AM

Trump said, "if you take a look at Obama and look at some of the things he's done its the same thing and the country's very divided and we did it with Obama and we won an election that everyone said it couldn't be won..."

I think he is confusing Obama with Hillary Biden?
Maybe he thinks he did beat Obama.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 10:27 AM

A Trumpist can relate to a fuck up or a bad choice addict like Trump. They sympathize because a bit of them is like Donald. Sometimes they screw up through no fault of their own. In their eyes, Trump can do no wrong because of his trappings of wealth or white supremacy.

Other people of some accomplishment can do wrong by just speaking.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 09:16 AM

EX GENERAL FLYNN IS THRILLED https://www.cnet.com/news/misinformation/qanon-explained-q-returns-after-18-months-of-silence/

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 08:22 AM

Three sources have told Rolling Stone that Trump has asked his lawyers about possible prison time.
He wondered; if a bad prison or a Club Fed prison is possible, Would I have to wear an orange jumpsuit, Could I stay at home, Would the Secret Service be involved, what if I won while in jail?
He is fretting about it despite his public remarks.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Sep 23 - 09:57 AM

Whats going on?

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 23 - 05:57 PM

James Carville agrees with Steve. So does Bill Maher. Gavin Newsom is biden his time. We don't want another Ruth Bader Ginsberg fiasco.
But who knows, Joe could outlive Carter's age.

If Trump goes to jail they will have to do a cavity search where they are likely to find Sean Hannity.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 23 - 12:30 PM

When people are even the slightest bit right, but for the wrong reasons, they are basically wrong overall.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 23 - 01:47 PM

The Trump defense is 'everybody does it'. That excuse doesn't even work if you are stopped by a cop and you say 'Everybody was speeding'.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 09:44 AM

The WP had a Trump real estate calculator for people to try on their own homes. Ours came to 17 million.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 10:06 AM

The most slick witness in the Fraud trial against Trump will be Trump. He is famous for his Freudian slips. His Freudian slip-and-slide is like a HUGE polluted water slide. His trials will all be Freud Trials.

The rule of law and the Constitution are our democratic weapons of choice. Perhaps Steve is suggesting something more expedient and final

Subject: RE:warning these are just words...
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 10:55 AM

I have found the least likely people to change their minds tend to be die-hard Trumpists. The reason has something to do with feelings of victimization, anger, vengeance, and psychological issues. I am not surprised by those who choose to cling to and enjoy a 'dangerous' leader who calls for retribution.

From their victim's point of view, they feel a gross injustice that must be corrected by any means.

I'm not just talking about Trumpists.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 07:42 PM

TYRANNY OF THE MINORITY is a book about using intimidation and outrageous rhetorical tactics. As Trump targets Judges, AGs, opponents and law enforcement it fuels his followers to attack 82 year olds with a hammer, shooting up FBI offices or commit other cowardly acts.

A few laws would be curative. Get rid of the Electoral College. In 1969 we came within a handful of Senate votes to abolish the Electoral College.

Make registering to vote mandatory at 18 so that voter suppression would no longer work.

Make white supremacy political parties illegal just as we did with the Communist Party.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 08:13 PM

The Trump Supreme Court is back in session and will decide if domestic abusers may buy guns. They could decide that guns have more rights than women. We shall see. They will also decide if physicians and experts in government agencies will decide on medical issues like abortion pill availability or if lower court judges will decide.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 09:32 PM

Besides the skating rinks, six of Trump Place residential buildings in New York City’s Upper West Side dropped his name in February.
And his Trump SoHo hotel (also in New York City) removed the president’s name in 2017, spurring a full financial recovery from a prolonged slump.
Two other Trump hotels?—one in Toronto, the other in Panama?—dropped his name in 2017 and 2018.
The SoHo, Toronto and Panama hotels are no longer doing business with Trump, while the Upper West Side condos still have a contract with him.
Multiple reports suggested that the properties cut ties with Trump because in a divisive political climate, the association was hurting business.
The Panama hotel, however, accused the Trump Organization of evading taxes a year after ending their business relationship.
Key background: Trump’s iconic skating rinks are located in the northern and southern ends of New York City’s Central Park. But he doesn’t own them. Instead, Trump leases them from the city, a long-held arrangement held over from when he took over their reconstruction in the ’80s. Trump famously got the project done on time and under budget, the Post reported, helping to solidify him as a reputable businessman.

Tangent: Since Trump began his 2016 presidential campaign, his estimated net worth has dropped by $1.4 billion in Forbes’ ranking of billionaires. Polarizing politics were partly behind the decline, costing Trump an estimated $200 million at last count.

The Chicago Trump Tower International Hotel still has its name on it.
The Tribune has called for the name to be jackhammered off. The top floors are still owned by RUSSIAN oligarchs.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 07:55 AM

P.T. Barnum had a valid point when he said "There is a sucker born every minute". Fortunately, there are good people born within the rest of that minute.

The Trump base are the suckers and would join the firing squads to execute our; Generals, journalists, democrats, minorities, Judges, law enforcement officers, and even women and children, ALL by order of Commander and Chief President Trump. It has happened before as I have warned since I was 13.

This time I believe we have the Institutional guard rails to save lives.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 10:55 AM

At least Robert is part of the resistance. My family is part of the resistance in ways available to us outside of silly social media. We write handwritten postcards to Republicans in Georgia, Ohio and some other states prior to elections. The questions and hopes expressed are not strident but one of friendship and explanations of why we care. So far the number of cards sent are less than a thousand but we are not alone. We buy postcards from Amazon with themes from the universe to pictures we think might be saved. We will never know about actual results but even small efforts can have positive effects.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 04:10 PM

Day of election exit polls are revealing. https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-results/house/0

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 04:46 PM

Speaker of the House McCarthy has been ousted 216 to 210.
1st time in our history.

He was a toadie sycophant ousted by other Trump toady sycophants.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 05:36 PM

Wow Lighter, I wonder who taught who that no-surrender mug shot scowl.

Today reminded me of a bloodless 'night of the long knives' when the Nazis ate their own.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 06:36 PM

The Trump defense did not ask for a jury trial but the scattershot lies they are telling their base is that it is unfair they were not given a jury trial. The other lie is that a form got lost and they were denied a jury without said form.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 23 - 09:21 AM

Then you think they are unintended consequences?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 23 - 09:45 AM

I remind folks of the numerous mass shootings be it in a North Carolina church or Buffalo NY or Walmarts in Texas targeting Latin Americans - ALL by white supremacists. Those killed in the January 6th insurrection are more problematic yes, but one can not say the shootings by MAGA fanatics are few and far between. Those incidents are up 400%

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From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 23 - 10:12 AM

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/trump-call-violence-presidency


"The blood of America is poisoned by illegal immigrants" is not saying that we should kill them does it?
Trump has called for the execution of the joint chief of staff General Milley.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 23 - 07:05 AM

Political speech is the most protected speech in America.
So how will the limited/narrow gag orders play out?
The inevitable defiance of narrow gag orders may end up in the Supreme Court. I do not think Judges are going to pull 'the contempt of court trigger' and jail Donald.

Intimidating and defaming witnesses will be allowed or not on social media like Twitter, Truth Social or even Mudacat..
I suspect Trump's impunity and inciting speech will continue.

When assassinations of Trump's targeting technique happen, he has not been indicted as an accomplice to murder. Is it an unintended consequence or a deliberate order to attempt murder?

When the King asked...
"Can someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?" Is it a question or an order?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 06:06 AM

Trump is eligible to be Speaker but so far he is pushing for Jim Jorden who is an insurrection insider.

Trump allegedly shared nuclear sub info with an Australian businessman.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 09:41 AM

Also in the event of deaths, the Speaker is third in line for the Presidency.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 07:54 PM

" When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty — to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.”

quote Abraham Lincoln

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 05:20 PM

FOX News Gutfeld said on air that elections don't work and calls for civil war to crush their opponents.

Why? Because the Republicans and the Supreme Court
know they can not win elections. Civil War may now be the Thanksgiving conversation at dinner this year. The unrepentants are the clear minority. Those who love their family's safety outnumber the fear-crazed. People want their sports more than civil war.

An Appellate Court temporarily halts dissolution of NY Trump business'

Then again I did not think Trumpers would attack the Capitol.

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From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 05:12 PM

Speaking of Trump familial accomplishments, Lara Trump released a song cover of 'I Won't Back Down'. The Paranormal Channel has video of Tom Petty spinning in his grave.

added to the Trump Glossary; zilot - an idiot zealot,
weapon-grade idiots - slang for Proud Boys,
Idiocrasy - Republican version of Democracy.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 08:12 PM

Hannibal Lecter ate the brains of an FBI agent, something else Donald might like.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Oct 23 - 09:14 AM

I do worry that US white nationalists aka the American Taliban, becoming emboldened by the Hamas attacks.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 10:08 AM

Better link for American Taliban

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 04:45 PM

Justice is presumed to win the day regarding Trump but there are many who doubt it.

Two outstanding films regarding Justice are on Netflix right now.
Fictional justice is portrayed in Edger Allen Poe's
'Fall of the House of Usher'. viewer discretion advised

Real Courtroom justice is in the film 'Burial'.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 02:34 PM

Stilly, a person like Trump will
pretend to be 'hide to the bone'.
They can never ever admit defeat
even if they lose all their teeth

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 07:56 AM

Donnie is complaining that he can not insult people involved in his trial anymore because of a recent unconstitutional gag order.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 05:48 PM

When Jimmy Jordan says
We are the Master Race
seig heil seig heil
right in his Jimmy face
Not to love Donald Trump is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der Donald's face
When Herr Hannity says we own the world and space
We heil heil right in Hannittys' face
When Herr Scalise says we'll never leave this place
We heil heil right in Herr Scalise's face
Are we not the supermen White pure supermen
Ja we are the supermen (super duper supermen)
Is this Nazi land so good
Would you leave it if you could
Ja this Nazi land is good
We would leave it if we could
We bring the world to order
Heil Donald's world to order
Everyone of foreign race
Will love der Donald's face
When we bring to the world this order
When der Donald says we is de master race

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 10:39 AM

I do not know how to spell a Bronx cheer.####

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 01:23 PM

EBarnacle, Trump should make it an even 6 indictments.
He was always talking about shooting that guy on 5th Avenue.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 08:55 AM

Republican Congressmen opposed to Jim Jordan have reported credible death threats and other threats. Even their spouse and staff were subjected to his threats.
Jim Jordan will try another vote to see if his intimidation will work but it has been getting worse for him each time he tries to grab the Speakership. This crack in MAGA insanity is good news for Democracy.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 06:23 PM

In a criminal's parlance, "she dropped a dime to not do time.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 23 - 06:09 AM

Now there are 17 others who might flip. He who flips first gets the better deals.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 08:33 AM

There was even a private committee vote that showed that 100 Republicans did not want the neo nazi Jordan as speaker. They are still in support of the bigger racist nazi Trump because they believe he has a winning base. I believe they are mistaken.