Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Jan 23 - 04:43 PM ODE TO GEORGE SANTOS (what a load) The only way to get what you want is to become a liar BEYOND COMPARE. Can you do that? My dear, Santos. That's what Trump does. It's what Putin lives for. To help unfortunate folks like yourself. Poor souls with no one else to turn to. I admit that in the past lies have been nasty They weren't kidding when they called me, well, SATAN prince of lies But you'll find that nowadays I've mended all my ways Repented, seen the light, and made a switch Got it? Yes. And I, fortunately, know a little magic It's a talent that I always have possessed And dear George, please don't laugh I use it on behalf Of the miserable, the lonely, and pathetic unfortunate souls In pain, in need This one longing to appear richer That one wants to get the girl And do I help them? Yes, indeed Those poor unfortunate souls So sad, so true They come flocking to my dungeon Crying, "Spells, Satan, please!" And I help them! Yes I do Now it's happened once or twice Someone couldn't pay the price And I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals Yes I've had the odd complaint But on the whole I've been a saint To those poor unfortunate souls Have we got a deal? If I become truthful, I'll never be with my father or sisters again. But you'll have your man, heh heh. Life's full of tough choices, isn't it? Heh heh. Oh, and there is one more thing. We haven't discussed the subject of payment. But I don't have- I'm not asking much, just a token really, a trifle! What I want from you is - your reputation. And after all dear, what is embellished babble for? Come on, they're not all that impressed with honesty Even voters avoid it when they can But they dote and swoon and fawn On a man who lies all he can Come on you poor unfortunate soul Go ahead! Make your choice! I'm a very busy devi and I haven't got all day It won't cost much Just your life You poor unfortunate soul It's sad but true If you want to win a seat among others of deceit You've got the pay the toll Take your arm and go ahead, reach And go ahead and sign the scroll AHHH The boss is on a roll This poor unfortunate soul Come winds of the Caspian Sea Now, LIE! Aah... lie beyond compare! Keep LIEING! |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Jan 23 - 03:49 PM "It’s not like Ukraine is a great democracy. It’s a totalitarian regime. They’re not a great bastion of freedom,” said Santos. He has insisted that Ukraine “welcomed the Russians into their provinces”—an apparent reference to President Vladimir Putin’s 2014 invasion to prop up rogue separatist parties—and that Ukrainians in the east “feel more Russian than Ukrainian,” even though every single Ukrainian province overwhelmingly voted for independence in 1991. It was not the first time Devolder-Santos had parroted Kremlin talking points. In the weeks before Putin’s brutal, blundering attack upon his western neighbor, the candidate repeatedly took to Twitter to accuse President Joe Biden of plotting to “start a war” with Russia and deploy American troops to Ukraine. - Daily Beast |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Jan 23 - 03:25 PM I imagined it would be funny, but farts are funny too. Oligarch WOOF! It seems Russia is involved again afterall. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jan 23 - 11:55 AM And firmly in the Trump Sock Puppet school of governance, New details link George Santos to cousin of sanctioned Russian oligarch The New York congressman once claimed Andrew Intrater’s company was his “client,” while another Intrater company allegedly made a deposit with a firm where Santos worked George Santos, the freshman Republican congressman from New York who lied about his biography, has deeper ties than previously known to a businessman who cultivated close links with a onetime Trump confidant and who is the cousin of a sanctioned Russian oligarch, according to video footage and court documents. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jan 23 - 11:52 AM That last remark appears to be a brain fart - have you suddenly gone back in time six years? It made an impact when it first came out, but surely Biden didn't have the Trump pee video stashed in the locked garage cabinet. So much water under the bridge since then (or pee over the dam. . . ) In the alternate universe of Trumpville, Matt Gaetz says Trump should pick Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Kristi Noem as his running mate to get votes from women who don't like him for his VP running mate next time. Gaetz hasn't sussed that women despise those two fools also. Trump announced on November 15 that he is running for president again in 2024. This is his third presidential run: He won his first race against Clinton in 2016 and lost to President Joe Biden in 2020. Such incompetence packed into the top of one political party. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Jan 23 - 08:26 AM Could the Democrats be playing chess while the Republicans are playing checkers? I can imagine that Biden reviewed the classified report on the Steele dossier that included the famous Russian Pee video. Not knowing this, Republicans will cry out that the documents must be made public, at which time Democrats will appear to reluctantly give in. Hijinks ensue. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 15 Jan 23 - 02:28 PM Where is the final resolution, if any, in that story? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Charmion Date: 14 Jan 23 - 02:47 PM Classified records turn up in the strangest places. Some forty tears ago, a Canadian submarine skipper died and left his professional papers to the Public Archives (as it then was). The collection was packed up at the old salt’s house in Esquimalt, trucked to Ottawa, and in due course accessioned. It came to me, then a student on a four-month stage, to be “arranged”, as they say in the racket. Three cubic-foot storage boxes and two weeks into the project, I found a four-inch file box tightly packed with Secret and Top Secret documents about nuclear warheads for torpedoes and performance studies of the then brand-new Oberon class of diesel-electric boats. After his command tour, the skipper was posted to the Operations branch at Naval Headquarters. It was deep in the Cold War and a time of frantic security theatre, but he nevertheless took work home — and forgot some of his reference materials. The world continued to revolve on its axis. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Jan 23 - 10:59 AM If you're a rational, prudent person and your predecessor is charged with holding onto top secret papers and refusing to return them, it should occur to you, if I'd been in a place where those documents came your way, to check your own files and see if any got left behind. It sounds like this is what happened. If Bush or Carter or Clinton or anyone else has old documents like this they returned them quietly or they're so old to be harmless now. Hillary was put through the ringer over her private email server and was found to be without malice and no charges filed. That would be the reasonable outcome with any of these others, and the sooner it is taken care of, the better. Trump is in his own toxic case a souvenir collector and I bet if you checked the phones of his visitors to the White House or Mar-a-Lago that you'll find they snapped a few photos of those documents Trump was waving around. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 14 Jan 23 - 10:33 AM That's an armed-forces tiger-team tactic, Donuel: leave a note reading "Your code books have been stolen" on top of the code books in your secure safe. Successful penetrations are promptly followed by snap site inspections, and the fan changes colour abruptly. In this case, however, methinks Hanlon's Razor is more likely to apply IRL. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Jan 23 - 08:55 AM In Bizzaro world there may exist anti-plumbers who plant documents and don't steal them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 14 Jan 23 - 08:11 AM Probably forgot he had them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 14 Jan 23 - 06:06 AM For the life of me I can't understand why Biden didn't sneak those papers out of the way as soon as the Trump documents outrage came to light. Tsk. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jan 23 - 09:30 PM While at the gym today one of the televisions over the equipment was tuned to FAUX News. I couldn't hear it, thank dog, but the whole time the chiaron ran about Hunter Biden and Biden's stashed top secret documents. There isn't a story there, but they'll make it into one if they can. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Jan 23 - 06:10 PM I just read another headline about another ancient stash of classified papers, but I haven't read the article. It could be that when the Trump thing happened everyone was told "go check your own papers and lets get this all cleared up." The fact that Trump tried all sorts of prevarication and resistance to returning papers the Archives knew he had means he committed a crime where other omissions of returning may be just an oversight. Makes it harder for the AG to make a case, though. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jan 23 - 04:54 PM It's unfortunate, but probably not unusual, that when Biden's attorneys were clearing out an office he used at a U of Pennsylvania think tank where he spent some time as vice president, they found a few classified documents. They notified the National Archives immediately and they were retrieved from their locked closet the next day. Unfortunate because Trump is going to try to use it for all he can to suggest that he should be able to keep the documents he had OR that Biden should be charged, etc. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 10 Jan 23 - 04:23 PM :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Jan 23 - 04:06 PM Should that be on the precognition thread? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 10 Jan 23 - 01:54 PM In two weeks it will be revealed if Trump is to be indicted in Georgia. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jan 23 - 11:36 AM The MAGA folks in the GOP now intend to defund, one agency or individual at a time, anyone they don't like. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jan 23 - 01:28 PM Dark money is supporting a lot of the members of the insurgency, I read that this morning. Trying to turn them into "patriots." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jan 23 - 12:17 PM I can't remember where I saw that now, but a quick trawl found this bunch of bullet points in the Daily Mail (I definitely didn't first read it there!). Apparently, the figures were obtained in a YouGov poll of 1500 Americans. Hmm. Daily Mail...YouGov... *gulp* -Americans by a wide margin disapprove of the pro-Trump attack on the Capitol -But the number of people who endorse it has grown these past two years -The share of approving Americans has risen from 9 to 20 percent -Startlingly, the biggest shift in opinion has been among Democrats -The share of approving Democrats has risen from 3 to 16 percent Details, if you really want them, in the Mail if you google "Support for the January 6 attack on the US Capitol has more than doubled..." |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jan 23 - 11:41 AM I've heard the reverse, that those numbers of true believers are decreasing. It would be nice if they could drive the Congressional January 6 participants out of office, that would be one way to take the Speaker's gavel away from McCarthy. There are more than four of them, the current lead the GOP has. Enablers, line-straddlers and quiet resisters: How GOP lawmakers contributed to Jan. 6 |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jan 23 - 05:10 AM I was alarmed to hear today that half of all Americans believe that there was fraud (along the lines of the Trump allegations) during the last election, and that about 20% think that the Jan 6 attack was in some way justified. These numbers are increasing, the latter having doubled. Putting Trump behind bars may mean he can't become president, but it doesn't mean he can't become a martyr. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Jan 23 - 01:05 PM Electoral Count Act reforms are a resounding victory for bipartisanship and democracy A quick read, showing that bi-partisan cooperation is still possible. And Trump's tactic is now impossible to pull off (his alternative electors plot). |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Jan 23 - 10:49 AM From Grammarist: The saying, Fool Me Once, Shame on You; Fool Me Twice, Shame on Me was first used in 1650 by politician Anthony Weldon. It’s a witty way to say that you should learn from someone’s tricks on you. If you don’t, you’re the only one to blame. Weldon was an English 17th Century courtier and politician. I looked it up. That's one of those quotes that could as easily be attributed to Mark Twain (who may also have said it, or something more clever along those lines.) That Long Island con man has operated under the national radar until now. Chances are he doesn't have the personal fortune to play the same massive shell game that Trump has managed. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 02 Jan 23 - 10:41 AM Trump pushes for tri-partisanship and then rule by Royalty. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Big Al Whittle Date: 02 Jan 23 - 05:02 AM its one of those anomalies. during the war, apparently you were lucky if you could get 10 woodbines - yet there was Churchill with an inexhaustible supply of Cuban cigars. Apparently some people did resent that, but not the majority. Now we have Trump who doesn't pay any tax, though most people do. Apparently some people do resent that, but not the majority. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: robomatic Date: 02 Jan 23 - 02:08 AM There is a fine old Americanism which may have outlived most American minds by now: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." This is kind of sad because it displays an implicit self confidence that the average American was competent to parse reality with enough success to figure it out. This is why I was so depressed by the performance of many Americqans in the 2016 election. And here SIX YEARS LATER the supposedly canny citizens of New York prove themselves PDS (PrettyDamnSusceptible) to the mouthings of a guy in a relatively clean brown suit who practises a little resume inflation. Unless he actually stole enough money to arouse the cupidity of his co-sponsers, he falls into that democratic basin of a-legality that allows votes to supplement good order, law and morality. This is something that Trump has not led us to, but has shown us as in a mirror of shame and stupidity. " |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 02 Jan 23 - 12:51 AM only the fake news media would ignore him .... |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jan 23 - 11:39 PM I didn't delve deeply into that, just glanced through a Yahoo blurb about a press opportunity that the networks ignored. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 01 Jan 23 - 07:54 PM did he really invite fake news media, or are they all Truth(full) media? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jan 23 - 07:40 PM New Years Eve party at Mar a Lago "Former President Trump’s annual New Year’s Eve party at Mar-a-Lago was packed this year, with the guests reportedly including hundreds of the club’s members and Trump political allies. Among the attendees were MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell and the former president’s onetime attorney Rudy Giuliani. Eric Trump and wife Lara were also in attendance, as well as Melania Trump, according to The Palm Beach Post. But several other family members appeared notably absent, including Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump." Apparently he included a press opportunity but none of the cable news agencies attended. Poor widdle Donald. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jan 23 - 01:57 PM Once he's finally charged with something and he's knocked out of contention in future elections, they can stop worrying about all of these investigations, though I would like to see him sentenced to prison time, even if he receives probation. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 01 Jan 23 - 06:17 AM > His goose is cooked in time for Christmas. But he insists on leaving it on the sideboard. He'll end up with cold turkey. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 31 Dec 22 - 03:02 PM His goose is cooked in time for Christmas. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Dec 22 - 09:15 AM America has a set of laws regarding court cases and procedures that Trump and many rich people are able to game for themselves, at any rate. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 31 Dec 22 - 06:12 AM > America has always had two sets of laws. So has England (I can't speak for the rest of the Untied Kingdom). It goes back a Long Way: "To them that have shall be given, and from them that have not shall be taken away even that which they have" appears several times in the Gospels. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 30 Dec 22 - 04:21 PM America has always had two sets of laws. One is written for certain races and the poor The other set of laws is unwritten and for the wealthy. The Constitution sometimes crosses that border between the two sets of laws. That's why Trump wants to destroy the Constitution. By god if they try to use the Constitution against Trump what is this country coming to? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Dec 22 - 12:00 PM Trump Tax Returns Released by House Democrats New York Times, if you can open it the whole story should be there, with links. The release came 10 days after Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee published two reports about Mr. Trump’s taxes as part of an inquiry into the Internal Revenue Service’s practice of conducting mandatory audits on presidents while they are in office. The reports found that the I.R.S. failed to audit Mr. Trump during the first two years of his presidency and did not begin the examination process until 2019, after House Democrats initiated oversight proceedings in an attempt to gain access to his tax records. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Dec 22 - 09:50 AM There isn't a paywall here so CNBC should have a link to Trump's taxes tomorrow when they're released at 9am Eastern time. Here is the Senate Report summarizing his tax status. (A PDF) |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Dec 22 - 12:19 AM And . . . once again, Trump was able to run out the clock. Jan. 6 Committee Withdraws Its Subpoena of Trump With the panel wrapping up its work in the final days before a new Congress, it has also pulled back its subpoenas for other witnesses. The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol on Wednesday withdrew the subpoena it had issued to former President Donald J. Trump, conceding that the lawmakers had run out of time to obtain his documents or testimony. His ass is still grass. There are too many investigations, PLUS, the new head of the investigation for the DOJ can issue subpoenas. It isn't over for "Donal John," as one obnoxious Mudcatter used to fondly call him. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Dec 22 - 11:21 PM The Trump environment of no consequences for lying about important stuff has shifted, and is about to bite George Santos In The Ass. George Santos Faces Federal and Local Investigations, and Public Dismay Prosecutors said on Wednesday that they would examine Mr. Santos, who has admitted lying about his work and educational history during his campaign. Dec. 28, 2022 |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 27 Dec 22 - 07:27 AM Here comes the 2023 Trump candidacy.. for President. Its going to get late early Quote Yogi Beara |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 26 Dec 22 - 02:27 PM For 300 years the racial hatred in the US has been horrendous. Immigrants have faced quota systems that prevented their entry. America first referred to an anti immigration policy and isolationism. Trumps knows his hateful base. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Dec 22 - 09:34 PM Mitch McConnell today told NBC News that he would actively work against any Trump candidates in the 2024 election. But even if he said it doesn't mean he'll do it. He just said it over again like he has, in more or less the same meaning, in the past. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Dec 22 - 11:45 PM This might be what pushes him to decide to rejoin Twitter. An enabling event. Just as Musk is told that everyone on the planet wants him to step down and appoint a CEO for Twitter. What could happen? |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 19 Dec 22 - 04:47 PM Sounds like he could be in a spot of legal bother. Bring it on. |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: gillymor Date: 19 Dec 22 - 03:49 PM His domestic policy is simply "fleece the rubes". |
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: The Sandman Date: 19 Dec 22 - 03:27 PM Trumps domestic policy leaves much to be desired, |