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BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 03:41 PM

Trump has hissy fit in court


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 02:04 PM

Another gem this week:

“I’m a very handsome person. So I guess a lot of you want to sit and look at me. It’s a beauty pageant. It’s amazing.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 01:32 PM

They're flippin' like hotcakes. The major issue will be to prove intent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 07:00 AM

Mark Meadows took an immunity deal from the prosecutors. A plea deal is different from immunity which can immediately put Mark in prison if he lies again. Those indicted and taking deals in Georgia are like dominos falling and should now testify against Trump.

The made for TV Republican Congressmen are no longer characters in Game of Thrones but are behaving like Southpark kids.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 10:54 PM

Cassidy Hutchinson was on the Ari Melber program on MSNBC this evening - he timed it because today another network broke a story that former Chief of Staff Meadows was granted immunity by Jack Smith in that Washington, D.C. trial. Hutchinson plays her cards pretty close to the vest, not sharing information that isn't already out there (from the hearings or her book - there is still information that will probably never be shared publicly for security reasons) but she generally thinks it is past time for Meadows to come clean and cooperate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Lighter
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 12:29 PM

I really think he's going senile. This is just a sample of his latest:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-us-spelling-genius-b2434774.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 11:50 AM

His gag order says he can't say anything nasty about the co-conspirators or witnesses (and now she is both) so I guess the best he can do is deny her existence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 11:48 AM

I noticed this the other day

Trump Denies Sidney Powell Was Ever His Lawyer

Surely that is a dangerous claim for him to make. As she was obviously on his legal team she would have been under a lawyer/clent confidentiality agreement. Now he has said she never was on his legal team, anything she heard in confidence is no longer under wraps. Or am I missing something?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 11:32 AM

Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Georgia case
At an unscheduled hearing in Atlanta, Ellis pleaded guilty to one count of aiding and abetting false statements, a felony stemming from the election lies that Ellis and other Donald Trump lawyers peddled to Georgia lawmakers in December 2020.

She was sentenced to five years of probation and ordered to pay $5,000 in restitution.

Ellis delivered a tearful statement to the judge Tuesday while pleading guilty, disavowing her participation in Trump’s unprecedented attempts to overturn the 2020 election.

“If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times. . . . The plea from Ellis implicated Giuliani in a state crime – lying to Georgia legislators by peddling false voter-fraud theories. This comes one week after Chesebro implicated Giuliani in the fake electors scheme that tried to subvert the Electoral College process. Giuliani denies wrongdoing.

According to court filings, Ellis admitted that she “intentionally aided and abetted” Giuliani and another Trump lawyer, Ray Smith, in “in knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making … false statements to members of the Georgia Senate.”

That's three lawyers and the bail bondsman so far, of the 19 originally charged. So far these folks are getting off really light with probation and fines.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 23 - 06:21 AM

9 more candidates have thrown their hat in the ring for Speaker.
Only Emmet is best known. I fear the winner will only be an anonymous hat. I don't know if the rules will allow a hat to be elected.;*/
In 2 weeks...
The US government shutdown and the Israel invasion will probably coincide.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Oct 23 - 10:57 AM

That secret vote tanked Jordan's hopes. If they were able to conduct a secret vote for the new speaker they could probably put Jeffries in place in one vote even if he is from the "other" party. Same with someone like Liz Cheney.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 23 - 10:43 AM

If you have ever baled hay you know what haywire means when applied to the Republican House. It is a wasteful horrid tangled mess that requires wire cutters and starting over.


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Subject: BS: Halloween '23
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 23 - 09:57 AM

Orange jumpsuits and Trump masks are selling out in DC.
Biden costumes are just old man-tyme outfits.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 08:33 AM

There was even a private committee vote that showed that 100 Republicans did not want the neo nazi Jordan as speaker. They are still in support of the bigger racist nazi Trump because they believe he has a winning base. I believe they are mistaken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Helen
Date: 20 Oct 23 - 10:34 PM

US Republicans revoke speaker bid of hardline conservative Jim Jordan after third failed vote

"Hardline conservative Jim Jordan's quest to become speaker of the US House of Representatives has ended after fellow Republicans revoked their support following a third failed vote on the House floor."

My take on this development is that, as the old Chinese proverb says, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step so every little positive change adds up in the larger scheme of things.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Oct 23 - 02:42 PM

Another one bites the dust:

Trump co-defendant Kenneth Chesebro strikes plea deal with Georgia prosecutors
As jury selection was beginning, Judge McAfee said a deal had been negotiated.

The first trial to have been conducted in the Georgia case is now moot - Powell dropped out yesterday, Chesebro today, so the possible risk of all of the evidence against them being aired and the other defendant trials that come later being able to benefit from that is gone, at least for now. None of the other trials have dates yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Oct 23 - 06:09 AM

Now there are 17 others who might flip. He who flips first gets the better deals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 06:23 PM

In a criminal's parlance, "she dropped a dime to not do time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Helen
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 02:06 PM

Yes!!! And Sidney Powell "... has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case."

Yes, yes, yes!!! :-D

After watching her memorable performance, talking absolute rubbish, e.g. "release the Kraken" etc next to Rudy Giuliani at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping press conference fiasco, I am very, very surprised that she has rolled over and surrendered.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 11:05 AM

Another one bites the dust.

Sidney Powell Pleads Guilty in Georgia Trump Case
Ms. Powell, a lawyer who pushed baseless theories about ballot fraud in 2020, is the second defendant to accept a plea deal in the election interference case.
Sidney K. Powell, a member of Donald J. Trump’s legal team after he lost the 2020 election, pleaded guilty on Thursday morning to six misdemeanor counts instead of facing a criminal trial that was to begin next week. She was among 19 defendants, including Mr. Trump, who were indicted in August for their efforts to subvert the election results in Georgia.

Ms. Powell, 68, who appeared in a downtown Atlanta courtroom, was sentenced to six years of probation for conspiracy to commit intentional interference of election duties. That is a significantly less-severe outcome than she would have faced if found guilty of the charges for which she was originally indicted, which included a violation of the state racketeering law.

She was also fined $6,000 and agreed to pay $2,700 restitution to the state of Georgia, as well as write an apology letter to its citizens.

Prosecutors said in court that Ms. Powell had given them a recorded statement on Wednesday as part of her plea deal. She has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case.

She got off light.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 23 - 08:55 AM

Republican Congressmen opposed to Jim Jordan have reported credible death threats and other threats. Even their spouse and staff were subjected to his threats.
Jim Jordan will try another vote to see if his intimidation will work but it has been getting worse for him each time he tries to grab the Speakership. This crack in MAGA insanity is good news for Democracy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 01:23 PM

EBarnacle, Trump should make it an even 6 indictments.
He was always talking about shooting that guy on 5th Avenue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: EBarnacle
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 11:12 AM

And now it's 5. Judge Chutkan also gets to preside over his voter suppression trial based on racist claims of fraudulent voting by non-whites.


https://www.alternet.org/trump-black-voters-judge-chutkan/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Oct.18.2023_1.05pm


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 10:39 AM

I do not know how to spell a Bronx cheer.####


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: gillymor
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 03:36 AM

You forgot the raspberries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 05:48 PM

When Jimmy Jordan says
We are the Master Race
seig heil seig heil
right in his Jimmy face
Not to love Donald Trump is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der Donald's face
When Herr Hannity says we own the world and space
We heil heil right in Hannittys' face
When Herr Scalise says we'll never leave this place
We heil heil right in Herr Scalise's face
Are we not the supermen White pure supermen
Ja we are the supermen (super duper supermen)
Is this Nazi land so good
Would you leave it if you could
Ja this Nazi land is good
We would leave it if we could
We bring the world to order
Heil Donald's world to order
Everyone of foreign race
Will love der Donald's face
When we bring to the world this order
When der Donald says we is de master race


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 07:56 AM

Donnie is complaining that he can not insult people involved in his trial anymore because of a recent unconstitutional gag order.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 23 - 11:42 AM

Another week, another Trump gag order under consideration. This time Judge Chutkan in Washington, D.C. Updates from the New York Times.

The Guardian isn't behind a paywall.

Trump has so much more wiggle room than any other other human being in the US because of candidate status and the mischief he can make about his political speech. But his gangland speech, that needs to stop.
A federal judge is expected to consider on Monday whether to impose a limited gag order on Donald Trump in the criminal case over his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, potentially restricting what he can say about potential trial witnesses and prosecutors.

The decision for US district judge Tanya Chutkan at the hearing, scheduled for 10am in Washington, comes with unique challenges given the potential for Trump to test the limits of a protective order or even flout it outright – opening the explosive sanctions question of whether to jail him in response.

Since Trump was charged in August with conspiring to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power, prosecutors have complained in court filings that Trump has made dozens of prejudicial statements that could intimidate people from testifying against him at trial and poison the jury pool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 02:34 PM

Stilly, a person like Trump will
pretend to be 'hide to the bone'.
They can never ever admit defeat
even if they lose all their teeth


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 01:37 PM

Liz Cheney has been cautioning about the state of the Democracy should Jim Jordan be elected Speaker. And I've seen chatter about people nominating Cheney herself - you don't need to be in the House to be Speaker (there's no rule that says you have to be, though I don't know if they've ever elected someone from outside before.) This has to be chapping Trump's hide.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 04:45 PM

Justice is presumed to win the day regarding Trump but there are many who doubt it.

Two outstanding films regarding Justice are on Netflix right now.
Fictional justice is portrayed in Edger Allen Poe's
'Fall of the House of Usher'. viewer discretion advised

Real Courtroom justice is in the film 'Burial'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 10:08 AM

Better link for American Taliban


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 23 - 07:39 AM

Sez Trump about his personal troubles: "I think most people get it" and "This is a terrible thing that is happening to our country." (That's even larger than a Royal We when he=our country)

Trump demands ‘full apology’ from Forbes after dropping off wealthiest Americans list

He just doesn't get it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 23 - 12:22 AM

He's also a total ass when it comes to maintaining a diplomatic and presidential demeanor regarding the atrocities in Israel:
‘Netanyahu let us down’: Trump chides Israel just days after attack
Subhead: His meandering remarks were the most extensive since the deadly weekend attacks.
Photo cutline: Donald Trump didn't use the word “Israel” until almost 20 minutes into his speech, after criticizing his 2024 GOP rivals and praising supporters.
PALM BEACH, Fla. — He criticized Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and called Hezbollah “very smart.” Both less than a week after the attack on Israel.

It was, as billed, a speech about the atrocities abroad. In the most Trumpian way possible.

Speaking to more than 3,500 supporters at a Palm Beach, Fla., convention center, former President Donald Trump spent nearly two hours recounting how he helped move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and boasted about signing the Abraham Accords, which formalized diplomatic relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

But he also meandered among various topics, zig-zagging from the weekend terrorist attack in Israel that has captured the world’s attention to criticisms of his GOP rivals, crime in Washington, D.C., boasts about rising in the polls despite multiple indictments and even mentioned the assault on former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul.

Throughout his speech, Trump, who leads his GOP presidential rivals, painted a picture of an alternate universe he thought would have existed had he been reelected in 2020 instead of President Joe Biden.

“Israel would be flourishing, they would have no problem,” he said. “Iran would have never played that game.”


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 23 - 12:17 AM

Judge in Trump's New York fraud trial explains why there's no jury

Trump has complained that he didn't get a chance for a jury. The judge says no.
Engoron is presiding over the bench trial of a $250 million lawsuit filed in 2022 by New York Attorney General Letitia James, in which she accused Trump, two of his sons, their company and other executives of years of widespread fraud. Engoron said that in paperwork certifying that the case was ready for trial, James' office checked a box suggesting it be a non-jury proceeding.

Trump's team had 15 days to oppose that, but did not, Engoron said, because there was no point in doing so.

"It would not have helped to make a motion. Nobody forgot to check off a box," Engoron said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Oct 23 - 10:09 AM

I think you have that in reverse. The American Taliban ("Christian" Nationalists) have emboldened terrorists around the world. Trump did that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Oct 23 - 09:14 AM

I do worry that US white nationalists aka the American Taliban, becoming emboldened by the Hamas attacks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Helen
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 08:38 PM

Maybe Trump has a hidden cache of FBI brains at Mar A Lago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 08:12 PM

Hannibal Lecter ate the brains of an FBI agent, something else Donald might like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Lighter
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 05:24 PM

You don't get indicted for this stuff, but if you're running for president, probably you should:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shows-love-hannibal-lecter-042941582.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 05:12 PM

Speaking of Trump familial accomplishments, Lara Trump released a song cover of 'I Won't Back Down'. The Paranormal Channel has video of Tom Petty spinning in his grave.

added to the Trump Glossary; zilot - an idiot zealot,
weapon-grade idiots - slang for Proud Boys,
Idiocrasy - Republican version of Democracy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 10:54 AM

The court itself was going to delay the dissolution of the Trump properties in anticipation of an appeal, so that isn't news for anyone. But Trump will spin it as a victory.

I'm of the opinion that the only reason Melania is still married to Donald is because he's so busy going to lots of places away from wherever home is this time of year that he's not interfering in her part of the house. If he finally stops running for office, I'm betting she's out of there, though I wonder if she has managed to set aside any of those millions to live on later? Past Presidents have means to make an income, but I don't know if that applies to all past first ladies. Michelle Obama and Hillary certainly landed on both feet financially, but they have skills. Laura Bush was always the helpful spouse (though she did work as a librarian right out of college.) Jimmy and Rosalynn travel as a pair in everything and have enough, but Melania would never be content to live in a small house in a small town like Rosalynn Carter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 07:54 PM

" When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty — to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.”

quote Abraham Lincoln


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 06:27 PM

When I heard his promise that "It will be wild!" I bet my wife 2 to 1 that's exactly what they would do.

Unfortunately I was correct.


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From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 05:20 PM

FOX News Gutfeld said on air that elections don't work and calls for civil war to crush their opponents.

Why? Because the Republicans and the Supreme Court
know they can not win elections. Civil War may now be the Thanksgiving conversation at dinner this year. The unrepentants are the clear minority. Those who love their family's safety outnumber the fear-crazed. People want their sports more than civil war.

An Appellate Court temporarily halts dissolution of NY Trump business'

Then again I did not think Trumpers would attack the Capitol.


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From: Lighter
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 03:30 PM

The Trump campaign doesn't deny it, just says he did nothing wrong (because of "context") and always insists on (wait for it)...

"Truth and transparency."

Yesterday Trump retweeted a post claiming that the judge in his fraud case was swigging gin from a bottle during the trial.


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From: Helen
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 02:55 PM

Donald Trump accused of sharing nuclear submarine details with Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt

"Former US president Donald Trump reportedly discussed "potentially sensitive" details of America's nuclear submarine program with an Australian billionaire.

"The American ABC news outlet reported that Mr Trump told Anthony Pratt the supposed number of nuclear warheads on US subs, and how close they could get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

"The conversation is said to have taken place at Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, several months after he left office.

"ABC — which is not affiliated with ABC in Australia — also reported that Mr Pratt allegedly then shared the information with at least 45 people, including journalists and employees, as well as 10 Australian officials and three former prime ministers."


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From: Lighter
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 11:16 AM

If enough first-hand witnesses say "He said," then he said.

Glimmer of hope: Nothing Trump tells anyone can be believed. Whatever he revealed was probably garbled and exaggerated.

But investigation is clearly needed.

What else has he divulged? And to whom? And did he hand out any documents?


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 10:54 AM

Infighting is so unattractive, and as entertaining as it can be for a couple of days, it sets an even nastier tone for the rest of the term. Meanwhile, the current avatar of public petting doesn't want her buddy Matt kicked out for being a douche: Lauren Boebert said it would be 'childish, vengeful' for Republicans to remove Matt Gaetz after he led McCarthy's ousting.

Politico sheds light on the Trump for speaker discussion: How Trump was talked into — and out of — a run for speaker
Just hours after Kevin McCarthy was deposed as House speaker, the “draft Trump” movement began.

“I called him and I said, ‘Sir, I’m nominating you for the speaker of the House,’” said Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas), describing a Tuesday call to former President Donald Trump. “I said, ‘I think that you would do a great job fixing the brokenness we see in the Congress.’”

So began a wild 48-hour scramble that saw Trump openly pondering a quixotic bid to become the first nonmember to be elected speaker before his political advisers and House allies managed to convince him it was a terrible idea.

The Trump-for-speaker bubble officially popped early Friday morning, when he took sides in the brewing battle between Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.).

Meanwhile, ever since Trump's petulant departure from the courtroom on Wednesday midday the trial has gone much smoother. And even though Trump is still trying for delays to postpone the inevitable, today some some of his executives testify.

The biggest nugget to hit the news yesterday was the over-sharing that Trump did with the Australian rich guy, who then went and told ~80 people about US nuclear submarine strategy and how close they could get to Russia undetected. Putin is saving a lot of money on spys now that Trump has been in office and after. As noted, this is a separate crime that could be charged, but in terms of proving, more difficult since it is a he said/he said kind of testimony involved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Oct 23 - 10:28 AM

Trump now says he wants Jordan.


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