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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jun 23 - 11:27 AM She has to answer to the court above her, the one that reversed her twice last time. Smith has another case against Trump that will be filed in the D.C. courts, and Cannon will have no impact on that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 10 Jun 23 - 08:30 AM It goes to show there are no guarantees. This development might be a good thing or another impossible advantage for The Donald. Perhaps you recall my short story The Devil and Donald Trump where he sold his soul to be above the law. Sometimes it feels like it's not fiction. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jun 23 - 10:03 PM The random appointment of Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump-appointed judge, has the power to dismiss the entire case come arraignment time. Or she could delay the case for many months - which she did for Trump before. 2 Courts of Appeal did overrule her other rulings regarding Trump. I did not expect this unfortunate turning of the screw. All she needs to do is make 2 crazy rulings that get appealed and the case goes past the election. Or as I said before, she could dismiss the entire case! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 09 Jun 23 - 08:17 PM SRS, thanks for the link to the full indictment. I managed to read it all. Sections 22 & 23 - "TRUMP's Public Statements on Classified Information" - made me laugh out loud. Hoist by his own petard, indeed! For example: "22. As a candidate for President of the United States, TRUMP made the following public statements, among others, about classified information: "a. On August 18, 2016 , TRUMP stated , In my administration going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law" ...and four more statements he made in 2016 and one in 2018. I'm laying bets that that will jump up and bite him on the behind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jun 23 - 07:18 PM Trump might have been a PR magician if he were not such an arrogant dope. He must have been born with a silver service in his mouth. Like Nixon one could say it was not just the crime, it was the cover-up/obstruction. There are reams of relevant tapes of Trump just like Nixon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jun 23 - 04:58 PM Jam on toast, maybe because his dough has gone sour? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 09 Jun 23 - 04:46 PM To clarify, my joke was: "...I thought of Trump, when he gets his [Department of] Just[ice] desserts and goes to prison". I don't know what desserts they serve in prison, but I expect that jam on toast might be the best that he will get. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jun 23 - 04:34 PM I think that the question "When?" is germane... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jun 23 - 04:17 PM The full indictment - PDF 49 pages. MSNBC is reading it and discussing on the air now. Fascinating. And Trump will be convicted based upon his own words. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jun 23 - 02:45 PM 37 counts against Trump. The evidence includes hours of recordings (made by lawyers who were asked to commit criminal acts) There are recordings that made me laugh of the people ordered to hide the boxes such as "There is a shower where we can hide some boxes". Trump has managed to obtain a renowned and excellent trial lawyer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jun 23 - 01:53 PM Biden is required to do so. It was Trump who illegally commented on other people's trials. BTW the indictment is just now unsealed. ONE CHARGE INVOLVES DISSEMINATION OF CLASSIFIED MATERIAL yikes that's heavy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jun 23 - 01:33 PM Joe Biden needs to step away from the controversies over Trump. So far, he is doing just that and I think he's wise to do so. You don't hear him mentioning Trump. If he were to break that silence, Trump would claim that it's him versus the government and that he's the victim of a witch-hunt. At the moment there isn't much traction in that claim and it needs to be kept that way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jun 23 - 01:09 PM The indictment is sealed and no one apart from the court knows what is in it except a list of charges reported by Trump's lawyers. The most serious is the espionage charge. trump likes to get out ahead of some issues to spin it. The spin so far is that Biden did this and has weaponized government. To which I say the justice dept. did this alone and that the law is and has always been a weapon against crime and criminals. When the indictment is officially unsealed more precise analysis can be done. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 09 Jun 23 - 01:06 PM I didn't make a joke and I certainly didn't repeat the the desserts - I mentioned the puds in two posts, six desserts, all different! Maybe we should show the posts to Donald when he's behind bars, along with photos of them, then tell him he can't have any. That'll piss him off! Looks like things are stepping up today, what with charges being made. It said on the Beeb news that further charges could be months away and any trial could easily be a year away. So the campaigning period could be an interesting mess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 08 Jun 23 - 10:41 PM I get it - you don't get the joke. Ok. But repeating yourself is not useful or even entertaining. What type of desserts are served by the department of Justice in prison? I doubt whether they will be of the same level of excellence as the desserts he gets in his usual places of residence. And how important will prison food be to him if/when he is given a prison sentence? My guess is, VERY important. Whatevs! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Jun 23 - 09:05 PM CNN has become less reliable with the company power struggle, but I think everyone here can read it (no payway). Donald Trump indicted in classified documents probe, sources say. Trump has been charged with seven counts in the indictment, according to another source familiar with the matter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 08:54 PM The etymology isn't difficult. It's just deserts/what he deserves. Deserts/deserves, geddit? Desserts can only ever mean puddings/sweets. Just desserts means that you go to a restaurant and get told that all they have is ice cream, chocolate brownies or spotted dick with custard. Speaking of a baddie who you hope will get his come-uppance as getting his just desserts is just wrong, and always was! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 08 Jun 23 - 07:17 PM Sorry, my bad. I forgot to put the quoted last paragraph from the Merriam-Webster page in quotes: "In early use desert was often used...." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Jun 23 - 05:41 PM In middle school my teacher reminded us that desert with one S is the dry place, and dessert has two Ss because you want more. Or something along those lines. I've always heard "just desserts" and assumed it was what someone deserved at the metaphorical end of their meal (or life or actions). Trump certainly has something coming to him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: gillymor Date: 08 Jun 23 - 03:53 PM If the old fraud is incarcerated I hope he winds up in a facility that doesn't allow Soap on a rope. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 03:46 PM You spelled it with two esses. You can't have your cake and eat it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 08 Jun 23 - 03:41 PM In early use desert was often used in the singular, and just desert might not refer to a punishment, but to anything that was deserved. In modern use it is typically found in the plural, and just deserts almost always is in reference to a deserved punishment, rather than a reward. And remember that just deserts has nothing to do with post-prandial sweets, unless it is that the punishment that you deserve is to receive none of these things. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Jun 23 - 01:30 PM If they believe that the orange one won the last election then this is his second term of office and he can't stand again. Sorted! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Jun 23 - 01:20 PM Despite a few outliers, most American women hate Trump. Hate that his supreme court overturned Roe V. Wade. Pissed off women will prevail. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 01:11 PM Every attempt to nail him for breaking the law that ends in failure strengthens him. That's the fear that pervades his enemies and the whole of the justice system. In the same way, the US lives in fear of the gun lobby, the pro-Israeli regime lobby and the big oil lobby. From this end it looks like paralysis, and BWM is right. Carry on like that and he WILL be the next president. Fortune favours the brave. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 08 Jun 23 - 12:55 PM ”It is conceivable that Trump…should he somehow win.” When I hear Trump supporters, as I have on a significant number of occasions recently, coming out with stuff like, “He has been put on Earth by God to be the President in perpetuity”, and declaring that Trump is actually the President right now and, along with a group of cohorts, is running the US under cover from Mar-a-Lago, whilst President Biden has been executed and actors are ‘playing’ him and all of the Senators and Representatives in Congress, I’m persuaded that there’s every chance of Trump’s re-election in 2024. It’s pretty clear that a significant number of American voters are probably misinformed and brainwashed enough to bring it about, aided and abetted by the archaic election system. Be afraid, be very afraid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 08 Jun 23 - 12:32 PM Good on you for getting the double entendre. Trump's defense has indicated that they will try and prove the Justice dept did something wrong and it is unfair. Jack Smith seems to be too careful to fall prey to that tactic. The Trump lawyers probably feel desperate for good reason. If all they can do is accuse the accusers they are toast. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Jun 23 - 12:05 PM Trump's supporter are revolting. The adjective, not the verb. One of his supporters kicked the bucket today. If there were a heaven, Pat would never get there. With Donald, it is the Art of the Steal, to grab as much cash by under- or over-valuing (as the situation dictates) to end up paying less and earning more. That's why he loves this new PGA-LIV golf "merger." The head of the PGA sold his soul and they'll resume paying to play at his golf establishments again. Trump was informed that he is the target of a criminal probe. Former President Donald Trump's lawyers have been informed that he is a target of the federal criminal investigation into possible mishandling of classified information after he left office, according to three sources knowledgeable about the communication between the two sides. This was the story on MSNBC last night. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 08 Jun 23 - 11:01 AM The Donald has refined his art of the deal since his days of extravagance. Like the game show Let's Make a Deal, Trump has found a way to deliver a Zonk to anyone who makes a deal with him. It's a very American phenomenon stemming from super capitalism. His true calling could have been a rainmaker for an exorbitant fee. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 10:04 AM When he gets his just desserts and goes to prison? Finish off your Portuguese custard tarts, Eton Mess and Victoria sponge, Donald - you're off to jail! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 05:56 AM Oh yes, how delicious it is to dream about Trump's prospective tribulations behind bars. Just get him there first. As I said, the clock is ticking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 08 Jun 23 - 05:35 AM It is conceivable that Trump could have a scheduling conflict on INAUGURATION DAY should he somehow win. In the unlikely event that he report to prison at 9 AM on the same day, what to do what to do? Taking the oath to the Constitution from behind bars with a toilet behind him would be iconic. Of course Trump supporters are revolting, calling the law a weaponization of the government. I concede that the law has always been a weapon against crime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 08 Jun 23 - 04:16 AM This BBC article gives us quite a bit of hope. How big are Donald Trump's legal problems? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Steve Shaw Date: 08 Jun 23 - 04:02 AM For it is written: “Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says the Lord.” Fantasising about the prospect of a miserable existence for Trump in prison is futile. There is just one urgent matter, and that is to get him out of the way so that he can no longer influence events, specifically stopping him from becoming president again. The clock is ticking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Helen Date: 08 Jun 23 - 12:15 AM I read this article about Jeffrey Epstein in prison, holding his hands over his ears because a faulty toilet was making too much noise in his cell and he was trapped and couldn't get away from it. I thought of Trump, when he gets his just desserts and goes to prison, with extremely limited facilities and no staff at his beck and call. How to drive a sociopath nuts. Documents reveal new details about lead-up and aftermath to Jeffrey Epstein's death "Two weeks before ending his life, Jeffrey Epstein sat in the corner of his Manhattan jail cell with his hands over his ears, desperate to muffle the sound of a toilet that would not stop running." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 07 Jun 23 - 06:42 PM boom boom boom boom boom RAMMING SPEED Boom Boom Boom Boom Boom Things are gearing up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Jun 23 - 06:40 PM The Trump cases are circling the drain now, any time these things are going to go down (sorry about the mixed metaphors). But I like the image of Trump being flushed or ending up in the sewer. That extra grand jury in Florida we just learned about seems to be for those Trump staffers at Mar-a-lago who were never in D.C., so the appropriate place to examine their participation in Trump crimes is in Florida. And this is the place where they may be able to make deals - testimony for leniency or no charges in return for telling what they know about Trump and Giuliani and a few of the other Trump lieutenants. Meanwhile, I knew there wouldn't be many breaths drawn between the breaking account of the PGA merger with the LIV Saudi golf league and news of Trump's gloating about it. The golfers who didn't take the Saudi money have good reason to be pissed that management took the bucks. And Trump just makes like a bandit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 07 Jun 23 - 06:14 AM Mark Meadows, Trump's chief of staff, TESTIFIED in the documents case. We don't know what he said yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 04 Jun 23 - 08:13 AM The US is subject to the same danger of religious rule as Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other nations, except it is by Christianity and not Islam. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 03 Jun 23 - 06:27 PM While Trump isn't religious he wishes people were more like the Duggar family well beyond his base. The Family Research Council is all in for Trump. After all, perversion is not a problem for Trumpers, it's a blessing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 03 Jun 23 - 02:29 PM Sometimes releasing documents can get you a medal and not a prison sentence. Daniel Ellsberg released the Pentagon Papers to the NYT. Julian Assange and Snowden got a raw deal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 03 Jun 23 - 05:28 AM What next, will he make a motion that he is a God and is immune to prosecution? Ceasar tried that one but the Senate had an answer to that one. Christian fascism and antisemitism are bringing people together but perhaps not enough to save their leader. If he thinks he can replace Christ, he is going to have to be tortured to death first and be resurrected, which is not that hard with a big lie. ah Oh... there goes my satire alarm. It tells me when the truth crosses the line and might cause someone pain. Oh well, its 5 in the morning so I am likely to be honest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Jun 23 - 03:55 PM Judge denies bid to derail E. Jean Carroll case because Trump is a persecuted 'white Christian' Judge Lewis Kaplan dismissed a motion from a Donald Trump ally to dismiss E. Jean Carroll's 2019 defamation case because he's being persecuted for being a white Christian. No surprise that Kaplan makes it clear that Brady has no standing to intervene. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 02 Jun 23 - 05:52 AM Ah June my favorite month. A perfect month to indict Trump up the WAZOO with open and shut cases. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jun 23 - 12:14 PM Trump pledged, "If I am the next President the prosecutors will be fired/removed, outta here". . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jun 23 - 11:42 AM It was reported this week on MSNBC that Trump has started asking his people to make lists of individuals to fire or otherwise abuse. The special prosecutor and others are working to shield jury members and staff who work on these Trump cases so that should the most awful scenario of Trump in the White House happen again, he can't purge everyone who ever worked on his case. That seems to count as narcissistic awareness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jun 23 - 09:21 AM HOORAY It's Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day. |
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Subject: RE: WOKE WAR 3 WW3 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jun 23 - 07:43 AM The war on Woke is going violent. Brandishing AR 15s people are destroying 'Pride merchandise', and harassing employees. Boycotting Chic Fillet for their diversity employee requirement is their message. BOMB THREATS and intimidation are being reported. Book bans are part of their strategy. The perpetrators are a small group and 75% of Americans are fine with gays but violence magnifies the woke war. D Santis is pleased with a wuke war. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jun 23 - 07:15 AM A petite young lady named Reality released only one document to the press It was about Russian bots in our elections That was called espionage and she served 5 years in prison. If the words espionage are in his indictment Trump is in deep feces. One stolen document was our Iran attack plans Even if he merely intended to sell it to Iran Donald could be charged with treason. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jun 23 - 05:48 AM The Trump Supreme Court ruled that one half of all US wetlands may now be polluted. Only wetlands directly adjacent to a flowing waterway may be protected now. In some circles Trump's MAGA means makes attorneys get attorneys. |
