BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 23 - 05:47 AM

He lost a civil suit over Trump University and lost when he sued Mahre and others.

My dear, Santos. That's what Trump does. It's what Putin lives for.
To help unfortunate folks like yourself.
Poor souls with no one else to turn to.
I admit that in the past lies have been nasty
They weren't kidding when they called me, well, SATAN prince of lies
But you'll find that nowadays
I've mended all my ways
Repented, seen the light, and made a switch
Got it? Yes.
And I, fortunately, know a little magic
It's a talent that I always have possessed
And dear George, please don't laugh
I use it on behalf
Of the miserable, the lonely, and pathetic
unfortunate souls
In pain, in need
This one longing to appear richer
That one wants to get the girl
And do I help them?
Yes, indeed
Those poor unfortunate souls
So sad, so true
They come flocking to my dungeon
Crying, "Spells, Satan, please!"
And I help them!
Yes I do
Now it's happened once or twice
Someone couldn't pay the price
And I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals
Yes I've had the odd complaint
But on the whole I've been a saint
To those poor unfortunate souls
Have we got a deal?
If I become truthful, I'll never be with my father or sisters again.
But you'll have your man, heh heh. Life's full of tough choices, isn't it? Heh heh.
Oh, and there is one more thing.
We haven't discussed the subject of payment.
But I don't have-
I'm not asking much, just a token really, a trifle!
What I want from you is - your reputation.
And after all dear, what is embellished babble for?
Come on, they're not all that impressed with honesty
Even voters avoid it when they can
But they dote and swoon and fawn
On a man who lies all he can
Come on you poor unfortunate soul
Go ahead!
Make your choice!
I'm a very busy devi and I haven't got all day
It won't cost much
Just your life
You poor unfortunate soul
It's sad but true
If you want to win a seat among others of deceit
You've got the pay the toll
Take your arm and go ahead, reach
And go ahead and sign the scroll
AHHH
The boss is on a roll
This poor unfortunate soul
Come winds of the Caspian Sea
Now, LIE!
Aah... lie beyond compare!
Keep LIEING!
Because soon you'll be crying
cause the ehics committee
sees your nitty gritty
You are under investigation.
for your imagination.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 23 - 11:02 PM

From "WTF Just Happened Today":

Welcome to Day 772 [of the Biden administration].

Today in one sentence: Trump can be sued by injured Capitol Police officers and Democratic lawmakers over the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol; the House Ethics Committee opened an investigation into George Santos; Biden plans to ask Congress for $1.6 billion to recapture stolen Covid-19 relief funds and help victims of identity theft; Eli Lilly will cap the out-of-pocket costs of insulin at $35 a month; and the Senate voted to repeal a Biden administration rule that allowed retirement funds to consider climate and social factors in their investments decisions.

He ran this during the Trump administration, started as a lark, I think, but taken seriously by a lot of readers so he buckled down and kept it going. It is finally beginning to feel like the worm has turned as far as Trump's fate in court.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 23 - 10:00 AM

Fair and balanced reporting will show a split-screen compare and contrast format showing a peaceful Jan. 6th march and tourists staying inside the Capitol velvet ropes to video of Portland riots, Disney security video of long line altercations, people reacting violently to the Charlottesville nazis and Kyle Rittenhouse 'fighting' for his life.

What's not fair about the compare and contrast format?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 23 - 10:57 AM

The latest FAUX amongst the hens is the gift of access to the security camera footage to FOX "news." Content from there was kept back by the January 6 committee for security reasons, court reasons, etc. But apparently the new very handicapped (by 15 votes and a shitload of promises to the corrupt far right) Speaker gave access to only Fox. Someone needs to step in and stop it on legal grounds.

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From: gillymor
Date: 01 Mar 23 - 07:27 AM

He reminds me of Tricky Dick in that department.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 23 - 06:29 AM

CHARISMA - i don't know exactly what it is or how its made but whatever it is De Santis doesn't have any.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Feb 23 - 10:14 AM

The jury foreperson is an odd one - her 15 minutes of fame are just about up.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 23 - 08:11 AM

SNL

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 23 - 08:02 AM

As Trump said overseas; "Putin is a genius" I don't see why Putin would lie" "I believe Putin over our own intelligence" etc. one claim is true IMO.
Putin was a genius in getting Trump to be his own Kremlin candidate along with Manafort who was Trump's campaign advisor after being the campaign advisor for Putin's Ukraine puppet President who was eventually overthrown by Ukraine and then elected Velodemir Zelenski instead.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 23 - 07:33 AM

Fortunately, she was not on the charging grand jury.
Simple folks are often enamored by celebrities and go overboard.
Lawyers will grab any weed if they are falling down a cliff.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 23 - 11:07 AM

That head of the Georgia special grand jury has managed to say his name, I think. She has also managed to spill a whole bunch of beans in her anxiousness to see something come from the eight months they spent working on the project. Hopefully she has someone advising her that less is more. Like to stop that chatter right now. Let the grownups take it from here.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 23 - 07:05 AM

Almost everybody couldn't say Voldemort's name except Harry Potter.
Today Pense, DeSantis or Niki Halley can't say Trump out loud.

Trump's childhood heroes were Norman Vincent Peele, or so they say.
I think it was Jackie Gleason from the Honeymooners.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Feb 23 - 11:18 AM

Good call! Trump is definitely "Florida man" now since he has rejected his New York City roots.

It seems someone lied to the Georgia grand jury and they're not chuffed about that. Heads other than The Donald's may roll.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 23 - 06:47 AM

;) So a Florida man told the bank teller "I just need 11,780 dollars which is one more than I have" and was immediately arrested and charged with bank robbery.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Feb 23 - 11:04 AM

It might be good news for the GOP that it isn't Trump, but she is a Trump apologist all over the place, so not much of an improvement.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Feb 23 - 12:37 PM

Just read the news that Nikki Haley is running for the Republican candidacy. Is this good or bad news?

Subject: RE: BS: Possible careers you turned down
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Feb 23 - 10:02 PM

So now imminent means 4 weeks come this Thursday.
Trump has only attacked law enforcement like the Justice Dept. and FBI and has replaced key people with his own BUT NOW the entire third leg of Democracy which is the Court System is in his crosshairs. It is the court that can arrest indict and jail Trump and he can not fire the judges and jury.

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Moved from the thread where this was accidentally posted. ---mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Feb 23 - 09:54 PM

A judge in Georgia will release this week three parts of the grand jury report written after the investigation into Trump and his tampering with the Georgia election. It doesn't name names, leaving that to the Fulton County District Attorney when she's ready to press charges.

So close . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 23 - 03:57 PM

I didn't see that one. I'm waiting to see proof that visitors to the Mar-a-loco office snapped phone photos of classified documents. You know he let people do it.

This is just a little story, but it's what is coming across more often now: Trump's 'desperation' is beginning to show: GOP campaign consultant

"DeSantis had a little interesting moment," Jennings told CNN host Jake Tapper. "Trump was attacking him over Covid and said some very dishonest things about what DeSantis had done as governor on Covid policy. And then DeSantis kind of responds to it -- doesn't mention Trump by name -- but he said, 'I did what I did and other people did what they did, and you can look at the electoral results of that.'"

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 23 - 09:01 AM

Yet even more classified documents were found at Mara Lago with a staffer's laptop having downloaded a classified document to his computer.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Feb 23 - 10:58 PM

a bit of Koch history          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Feb 23 - 10:44 AM

You're just ahead of me - I looked at this article yesterday about the Koch money and didn't share it.

Koch network to back alternative to Trump after sitting out recent primaries

That money has always been behind anti-Democratic principles and candidates. I think they're big with the Federalist Society funding as well (think Supreme Court justices) - and they helped the Tea Party get off the ground.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Feb 23 - 07:56 AM

It is the primary season again but the Koch brothers' money network is not going with Trump and is supporting alternatives this time.

The DNC is going with a new order of primary states, not going with Iowa first anymore. This will allow D candidates a better showing. The RNC is going with the old order.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Feb 23 - 11:27 AM

There were Chinese weather/spy balloons over US territory at least 3 times during the Trump administration. Not. A. Peep.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Feb 23 - 10:38 AM

In that piece:

How coordinated was the effort in that New York field office to pump up the ultimate nothingburger about Clinton’s emails while pooh-poohing the very real evidence of Russian interference on Trump’s behalf, and who were the agents behind it? What was the role, if any, of McGonigal and his international web of intrigue? Was the now-tainted McGonigal a source who told the New York Times that fateful October that Russia was not trying to help Trump win the election — before the U.S. intelligence community determined the exact opposite? If not McGonigal, just who was intentionally misleading America’s most influential news org, and why?

As a veteran journalist, I find the Times’ role in this fiasco — although likely an unwitting one — deeply disturbing. To be sure, the 2016 FBI leaks weren’t the first time a major news organization has been burned by anonymous law enforcement sources, and regrettably, it probably won’t be the last. Media critics have been talking for years about the Times’ flawed coverage, and how its near certainty that Clinton would win and a desire to show its aggressiveness toward a future president seemed to have skewed its coverage.

All filed under "how Russia helped get Trump elected.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Feb 23 - 10:37 AM

An Op-Ed out of the Philadelphia Inquirer looking into the reason for the timing of Comey announcing the investigation of the Clinton assistant's laptop right before the election:

This week’s stunning corruption charges against a top FBI spymaster who assumed a key role in the bureau’s New York office just weeks before 2016's “October surprise” — an agent who by 2018 was known to be working for a Vladimir Putin-tied Russian oligarch — should cause America to rethink everything we think we know about the Trump-Russia scandal and how it really happened that Trump won that election.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Feb 23 - 06:25 AM

Republicans have no platform but they are anti-science, anti-vaccine, anti-doctors, anti-chamber of congress, anti social security etc.
Even before Covid, Republicans typically ran up the debt to historic levels to make Democrats have to address and fix it later to the unpopular dismay of voters.
Holding the country hostage has worked before but now it is a bridge too far. The people are slow to wise up but we are getting wise to the anti-democratic attack on Middle-class America.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Jan 23 - 09:49 PM

Last summer's video of deposition. A civil fraud probe. Nothing new in Trumpland, so they're talking about his taking the Fifth for four hours.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jan 23 - 09:25 AM

Trump says he is more committed than ever.
If only he were committed.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 06:54 PM

Nope, no announcement of the indictment today.

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 08:15 AM

The Attorney General of GA. says the announcement is 'imminent'.
So far they announced they will not make public the grand jury evidence.
That is typical. I bet the usual Friday release of info will be forthcoming. Friday is a prime day to disseminate announcements.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 05:22 AM

What have I told y'all about Facebook...

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 04:30 AM


Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel - PM
Date: 10 Jan 23 - 01:54 PM

In two weeks it will be revealed if Trump is to be indicted in Georgia

Did it happen? And...


100!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 03:00 PM

From Facebook/Meta:

Ending Suspension of Trump’s Accounts With New Guardrails to Deter Repeat Offenses

Takeaways

• We will be ending the suspension of Mr. Trump’s Facebook and Instagram accounts in the coming weeks.
  
• We’ve put new guardrails in place to deter repeat offenses.
  
• The public should be able to hear what politicians are saying so they can make informed choices.

Social media is rooted in the belief that open debate and the free flow of ideas are important values, especially at a time when they are under threat in many places around the world. As a general rule, we don’t want to get in the way of open, public and democratic debate on Meta’s platforms — especially in the context of elections in democratic societies like the United States. The public should be able to hear what their politicians are saying — the good, the bad and the ugly — so that they can make informed choices at the ballot box. But that does not mean there are no limits to what people can say on our platform. When there is a clear risk of real world harm — a deliberately high bar for Meta to intervene in public discourse — we act.

Truth be told, it is my guess that Facebook wants the revenue from all of the eyeballs that Trump attracts. Bottom line, they want the dollars.

"In the event that Mr. Trump posts further violating content, the content will be removed and he will be suspended for between one month and two years, depending on the severity of the violation."

Yeah, right.

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From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 09:30 AM

> Eyes only documents are old hat and are being destroyed as we speak.

Then I fear for the long-term record, as well as short-term security. Hard copy is still signed for wills, house deeds, treaties etc, for long-term durability. For the really long term, follow the example of the English Parliament: Hansard is still printed on vellum, because it lasts longer than even acid-free paper.

One of the fundamental problems with securing soft-copy documents is that, when you make a copy, the original is untouched. One can steal a hard-copy document, but its theft is easier to detect, because it isn't where it should be.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 09:08 AM

We are past the days of microfilm and copiers. We are past the days of Furbies phones and apple watches. We are in the age of the hack.

Eyes only documents are old hat and are being destroyed as we speak.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 09:01 AM

There is a bill to enhance the protocols of the National archives.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 08:42 AM

> RE the classified documents, I want to know why the National Archives
> didn't miss them and demand them back.

Perhaps because we live in a photocopier world? so many copies, so much data to track.

> I also want to know whose fingerprints are on them.

None if those, erm, donating the documents were halfway competent.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: leeneia
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 12:15 PM

RE the classified documents, I want to know why the National Archives didn't miss them and demand them back. I also want to know whose fingerprints are on them.

It would be so easy for somebody to get past the lock on a university office and put something in the room.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 12:00 PM

Yes even newspaper headlines can be classified but most of the time it is used to cover someone's ass for being wrong or dishonest or worse.

As for Biden's political (not criminal) problem, I do accuse him of not being unapologetic.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 11:22 AM

The U.S. has an overclassification problem, says one former special counsel

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 08:30 AM

Much more info is classified than really needs to be. It is in the trillions.
Just cleaning that up has proved difficult.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 07:56 AM

The rules are strict and complex! The myth of a government job is forever is bogus. It is most often ended by a charge of mishandling classified material. It is like Capone getting arrested for taxes and not for the actual crimes. After that even porn on a phone can get you fired. When a government worker is working with classified material, the computer often auto-saves the classified info without the user's knowledge but the rules are to go back and remove the save. Almost everyone is guilty of mishandling when every trace is not unknowingly removed. BUT IN BIDEN'S CASE it was his staff's job to be sure document handling is cleaned up. There is a big difference between top secret and classified or confidential.

Senators and Congressmen have to use an eye's only SKIF to view documents but not in the old days.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Rain Dog
Date: 23 Jan 23 - 04:44 AM

Does anyone keep track of where 'classified' documents go?

I think the security system or rather lack of it, needs to be looked at.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 23 - 04:27 PM

Trump can't help himself, even though it makes no sense. The sound of one stupid mouth flapping: Trump calls for jailing journalists who broke Supreme Court’s draft abortion decision.

Former President Trump is calling for the jailing of the journalists who published a leaked draft opinion showing the Supreme Court was poised to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Last spring, Politico reporters Josh Gerstein and Alexander Ward published a blockbuster report on a draft opinion penned by Justice Samuel Alito that would overturn the landmark abortion ruling.

The court on Thursday made public a report detailing an investigation into the leak of the opinion, indicating it was unable to identify the source of the leak to Politico.

“They’ll never find out, & it’s important that they do,” Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social website. “So, go to the reporter & ask him/her who it was. If not given the answer, put whoever in jail until the answer is given. You might add the editor and publisher to the list.”

He simply doesn't understand the bit in the Constitution about the freedom of the press, if it isn't FAUX News.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 11:09 AM

In chess the king is at great disadvantage without the bishops.
The same with authoritarian politics.

It is my belief that the teachings of religion is always to suppress freedom and adore the boss, overlord or God. This allows a king a legitimacy since the minions are taught to want and need a leader who is always there to decide for them. Without the support of that segment of society a king has little advantage except to exploit fear and victimhood which the king will find a limited angry but loyal base.

It seems obvious to me but many pundits claim that they do not understand the attraction to Trump and fascism. Many people really want to be told what to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 10:31 AM

Wow. Even the evangelicals have had enough of Donald Trump.

Just days before Donald Trump hosts his first 2024 event in South Carolina, a state whose evangelical population has long played a critical role in its presidential primary, the former president is lashing out at religious conservatives who have declined to endorse his third presidential campaign.

Trump’s comments to conservative journalist David Brody in a podcast interview Monday, in which he decried the “disloyalty” of evangelical leaders who have withheld public support for his campaign, were the latest in a series of bewildering remarks he’s made about one of the most critical voting blocs in a Republican primary.

“Nobody has ever done more for Right to Life than Donald Trump. I put three Supreme Court justices, who all voted, and they got something that they’ve been fighting for 64 years, for many, many years,’” Trump told Brody, referring to the Supreme Court’s overturning of federal abortion rights in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision last summer.

“There’s great disloyalty in the world of politics and that’s a sign of disloyalty,” Trump continued, bemoaning evangelical leaders who have declined to support his latest campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jan 23 - 07:41 AM

Narcissists will never change so I expected Trump to return to Twitter.
The election denier and losing candidate in New Mexico was arrested for shooting up the homes of winning Democratic candidates.
The cold Civil War continues among the criminal element.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 07:05 PM

Robo, you're alive!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: robomatic
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 06:56 PM

I believe Trump is claiming credit for exposing the current corrupt regime (which regime? You name it!) based on his post incumbancy behaviour. I remember when he took credit for verifying Obama's Americanness based on his campaign to declare him a foreigner.