BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

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From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jun 23 - 03:26 AM

CNN.com:
"
Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything."

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 May 23 - 04:15 PM

Even Rolling Stone is in the Trump news reporting business: Trump’s Lawyers Warn Him: Get Ready to Be Indicted by the Feds
The former president has angrily complained in response to predictions that if the Justice Department is going to charge him, then “What about Joe Biden?”

This month, several legal and political counselors to Trump have bluntly informed him that they expect the Justice Department to charge him in the criminal investigation into his hoarding of highly classified documents following the end of his presidency, two sources familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone. The feds have also been probing whether or not Trump tried to obstruct the investigation prior to last year’s FBI raid of the ex-president’s Florida estate.

This, of course, comes on the heels of Trump’s indictment by local prosecutors in Manhattan in April for falsifying business records. Later this summer, officials in Fulton County, Georgia, are expected to decide whether or not to indict Trump on election fraud charges.

Trump’s attorneys and confidants have told Trump that though they view the federal investigation as “bullshit,” they would be surprised at this point if he wasn’t charged — particularly for alleged obstruction of justice — and have urged Trump to prepare for yet another historic fight. “Looks like they’re going for it,” one of the sources says. “People close to the [former] president have discussed with him what we think is going to happen soon, and how he and everyone else needs to be ready for it . . . it would be crazy not to.”

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 31 May 23 - 07:10 AM

In a nutshell, the wreckage that remains from Trump is threefold.
1. The conservative Supream Court
2. A historic 8 Trillion dollar debt (not taxing the rich)
3. A race war, extra death in the pandemic and a US Isis insurrection.

Some would include his crimes or global US humiliation.
The Republican Party works to establish a permanent minority rule by voter suppression and gerrymandering representative districts. A shift toward fascism goes together with abject lying.

The world moves on and new issues have emerged like AI and Ukraine war presenting new dangers.
This is only my perspective but I hope others have sharper vision.

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From: gillymor
Date: 30 May 23 - 06:35 AM

General Bonespurs has sacrificed so much for this country. Remember, STD's were his Viet Nam.

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 23 - 06:26 AM

When Ron DeSantis sees SLEEPING BEAUTY he sees the sexualization of children and necrophilia (kissing a corpse). I am concerned he is ill.

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 23 - 06:16 AM

Trump compares himself to fallen troops on MEMORIAL DAY.

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From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 23 - 06:12 AM

Gordon Lightfoot, only a month departed, may have turned in his grave

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From: gillymor
Date: 30 May 23 - 05:16 AM

I hope that was the final edition, the phrase "polishing a turd" comes to mind.

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 09:09 PM

edit 1

THE WRECK OF THE DONALD TRUMP BIG LIE

The legend lives on from Wikipedia on down
Of the big lie they called Donald's last stand
The race, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of Bull Shit twenty-six thousand tons more
The real Donald Trump campaign spent millions
That good ship Trump truth was a bone to be chewed
When campaigns of November came early
The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some rally in Wisconsin
As the big liars go, HE was bigger than most
With a crew and good Donald well seasoned
Concluding some terms with a couple of firms
When they left fully loaded for Victory
And later that night when votes were counted
Could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?
The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
And a wave broke over his railing
And every man knew, as the Donald did too
T'was the witch of November come stealin'
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When campaigns of November came slashin'
When afternoon came votes felt like freezin' rain
In the face of a hurricane west wind
When suppertime came, the old cook came in sayin'
"Fellas, it's too late to feed ya"
At seven PM, the election caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"
Then Rudy phoned in he had bad news comin' in
And the campaign and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went outta sight
Came the wreck of the Donald J Trump run
Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the truth turns the minutes to hours?
The broadcaster all say if he had more votes that day
If they'd put fifteen more States behind him
They might have split up but some of them have capsized
Some have broke deep and went to jail
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the con men, grifters, and pillows
Internet trolls and television bull now
Fill the rooms of his golf resort mansions
His bull shit steams like a narcissist's dreams
The laws and courts review his criminal schemes
And farther below Mason Dixon
Teach what Ron's history sends her
And candidates go as the politicos know
With campaigns of November remembered
In a musty old hall in old Queens they prayed
In the CRIMINAL MUSEUM' cathedral
The church bell chimed 'til it rang FORTY FIVE times
And for each man on the Donald Trump team
The legend lives on from Manhatten on down
Of the big lie they called lets play dirty
America, they said, never gives up her dead
When campaigns of November come early

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 08:05 PM

THE WRECK OF THE DONALD TRUMP BIG LIE

The legend lives on from Wikipedia on down
Of the big lie they called Donald's last stand
The race, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of Bull Shit twenty-six thousand tons more
The real Donald Trump campaign spent millions
That good ship Trump truth was a bone to be chewed
When campaigns of November came early
The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some rally in Wisconsin
As the big liars go, HE was bigger than most
With a crew and good Donald well seasoned
Concluding some terms with a couple of firms
When they left fully loaded for Victory
And later that night when votes were counted
Could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?
The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
And a wave broke over his railing
And every man knew, as the Donald did too
T'was the witch of November come stealin'
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When campaigns of November came slashin'
When afternoon came votes felt like freezin' rain
In the face of a hurricane west wind
When suppertime came, the old cook came in sayin'
"Fellas, it's too late to feed ya"
At seven PM, the election caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"
Then Rudy phoned in he had bad news comin' in
And the campaign and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went outta sight
Came the wreck of the Donald J Trump run
Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the truth turns the minutes to hours?
The broadcaster all say if he had more votes that day
If they'd put fifteen more States behind him
They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and went to jail
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
Internet rolls, television sings
In the rooms of his golf resort mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams
The islands and bays are for sportsmen
And farther below Mason Dixon
Takes in what history sends her
And candidates go as the politicos all know
With campaigns of November remembered
In a musty old hall in old Queens they prayed
In the CRIMINAL MUSEUM' cathedral
The church bell chimed 'til it rang FORTY FIVE times
And each man on the Donald Trump ticket
The legend lives on from Manhatten on down
Of the big lie they called lets play dirty
America, they said, never gives up her dead
When campaigns of November come early

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 May 23 - 07:36 PM

By the way, an elephant trainer in Ontario had his Tilley hat snatched from him and eaten by elephants three times. It was still wearable. As it happens, I've had a Tilley hat for 22 years. I'm trying to work out whether I can get it down in one as I'd still like to wear it afterwards. There wouldn't be any other takers. This looks a bit off-topic, though let's remember that elephants make TRUMPeting noises...

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 May 23 - 07:28 PM

I'd far sooner eat a hat than see Trump back in power. I call that GOOD taste. All I ask is that I get to choose the material. Last time I ate a felt hat I bloody near choked...

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 06:48 PM

We have somthing called an
ass·hat
noun VULGAR SLANG•NORTH AMERICAN
noun: ass-hat
a stupid or contemptible person.

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From: Helen
Date: 29 May 23 - 06:41 PM

No he wants to eat a bloody hat. No accounting for taste.

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 06:37 PM

Yeah. If I had to eat a hat I would enjoy cake.

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 May 23 - 02:20 PM

Cake hat. Mmmmmmmmm....

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 02:19 PM

Like Ron, I. Claudius said "let all the evil in the mud hatch out"
Believe me Florida is muddy.

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From: Donuel
Date: 29 May 23 - 02:09 PM

Stilly is right BUT he is not indicted or convicted of sedition.
I hope Steve's hat is made of cake.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 May 23 - 12:42 PM

He is the king of delay tactics, and has earned the name Teflon Don for a reason. But his luck has run out. Who knows, maybe the GOP in Texas tossing out their Attorney General will give the national party some ideas.

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From: Lighter
Date: 29 May 23 - 12:07 PM

Of course Trump can run for President from a jail cell. It's been done before.

And if he wins, he's President.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/trump-running-for-president-prison-00090931

But at the rate the process is going, he may not even stand trial on federal charges before November, 2024.

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From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 29 May 23 - 10:00 AM

> We'll settle for Ron then.

*NOOOOO* .... He reminds me of the I CLAVDIVS scene where Claudius's two advisers are discussing potential brides for Claudius. One suggests Agrippinilla, and the other retorts: "It'll be like the Lady Messalina all over again --- worse, the Lady Messalina with brains."

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 May 23 - 09:01 AM

We'll settle for Ron then. Sheesh, and we thought that Boris was bad enough...

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 May 23 - 09:16 PM

There are several charges that if he is convicted will prohibit him from running. Sedition is one. If he is found guilty of sharing those classified documents at Mar-a-lago (have they checked the phones of frequent guests? I'd bet they snapped a few pix) he's toast as far as the espionage act.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 May 23 - 08:32 PM

Slow-moving is exactly right. The democratic part of the world outside the US has watched with dismay how the yanks have allowed someone who is clearly criminal to weave his way through what you laughingly call your justice system into a position of being a realistic presidential candidate (let alone a rock-solid cert to win if and when he becomes that candidate). If he wins, that's the end of democracy, and America has sleepwalked its way into this position. You have powerful vested right-wing interests and you have frightened politicians who are allowing this to happen. I said on this forum many years ago that your politics is infantile. We are now reaping the whirlwind of that. Meet Trump, your next president. Or I'll eat my bloody hat.

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From: Helen
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:23 PM

And, regarding Monopoly, how could I forget? There is a Go To Jail card! :-D

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:17 PM

Even after writing eleven books and winning several awards, Maya Angelou couldn't escape the self-doubt that she hadn't earned her accomplishments. This feeling of fraudulence is extremely common. Why can't so many of us shake feelings that our ideas and skills aren't worthy of others.

“I feel compelled to think of myself as an involuntary swindler.” - Albert Einstein in 1955, shortly before his death. Impostor Syndrome is a psychological ...You can check Tom Hanks yourself.

The gears of justice grind slowly but a grand pause after the capitol invasion I BELIEVE WAS NEEDED. Appeasing the Confederates lasted 150 years.

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From: Helen
Date: 28 May 23 - 06:50 PM

SRS, another slow-moving (in my opinion) game with lots of players that I can think of is Monopoly, which is kinda relevant because that's what Trump tries to achieve in everything he does.

Coincidentally, this week I saw a UK TV quiz show host state that his family used to bend the rules of Monopoly so that each game would go on for days.

Bending the rules is also one of Trump's key features. And the aim of Monopoly is to monopolise all the money and resources to gain the most power over other people in the game.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 06:07 PM

If convicted several times he is not disqualified from running.

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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 May 23 - 05:50 PM

It's like watching a slow-moving chess game, which government prosecutor, county, state, or federal, is going to take a shot at Trump next, and ultimately, which one is going to disqualify him from holding public office. (The analogy is a chess game but it has more than two players, unless someone can name some other slow-moving game with lots of players.)

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From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 28 May 23 - 01:18 PM

It's hare-brained.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 08:20 AM

Trump thinks he grows taller by cutting the head off others. Like a monopoly he thinks "I don't care because I don't have to".
Well, it looks like he will be learning to care.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 08:01 AM

I should mention that keb also is free of self doubt caused by abuse.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:55 AM

Having some self-doubt keeps you humble, keeps you working and keeps you learning. I see Helen on the cusp of learning to fly free of unnecessary self-doubt. Stilly has been liberated for years and the trolls can only peck at people who actually have important ideas.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:36 AM

Overcome self-doubt and the path to truth is wide and long.
The feeling of being a fraud or an accidental swindler, as Einstien put it, will go away and free high-achieving people.
Maya Angelou and Tom Hanks both suffered from self doubt that they would be found out. Just having an imposter syndrome is an indication that you have achieved excellence. Thats when you can overcome self-doubt and be free. That freedom leaves you impervious to the envious manipulators.

The paradox is that unworthy people like Trump also are free of self doubt and cause harm.

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From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 07:09 AM

The quote was in quotes and is firmly in the public domain, but some missed the point anyway. Even Bible quotes are rarely sourced and footnoted in conversation. Hair-brained condemnation as constant as the wind is because the troll would be embarrassed to admit why they hate. The truth would be humiliating to the troll. So let's not speak of it. The aim is to educate, not humiliate.

One reason why Trump was successful in his duping is that most intelligent people have self-doubt and over time it develops into an imposter syndrome that leaves them open to the big lies of the Troll.

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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 May 23 - 05:54 PM

Doesn't everyone on the planet already know where that comes from? ---mudelf

No. There are are some grown-ups who don't read dismal children's books.

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From: Helen
Date: 27 May 23 - 03:32 PM

Donuel, re your statement: Strange enough many Latin American men voted for the Donald

I thought it was very strange that African-Americans were supporting him as well, back in his 2016 campaign. I'm not sure whether they would still be supporting him now.

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From: gillymor
Date: 27 May 23 - 03:08 PM

"Pilosopher"- lover of hemmeroids?

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From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 May 23 - 02:55 PM

Quote from Albus Dumbledore in, I think, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Or whatever you Yanks changed the title too because you couldn't understand the word "Pilosopher".

Why don't you just attribute your quotes to who said them, Don?

---

Doesn't everyone on the planet already know where that comes from? ---mudelf

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 23 - 02:06 PM

"It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up against your enemies but a great deal more to stand up against your friends."

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From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 23 - 09:11 AM

The Complete GUIDE TO MAGA CULTURE WAR:

Pardon all convicts victimized by the weaponization of law
Defund FBI, DOJ, and replace the CONSTITUTION
REMOVE WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO HEALTHCARE
Destroy all woke books, media, and Democracy
Make MAGA history the only true history
Keep ; the following goals a secret
Take away all women's right to vote
Remove all women's right to serve
Make our President serve for life
Make minorities NOT MATTER
Make blacks slaves against
Remove the courts
Burn the jews

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From: Ebbie
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:10 PM

I dearly hope he is not tRumpdeLuxe

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 08:14 PM

DeSantis is Diet Trump. Yuck

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 07:23 PM

DT has the quality and vanity that only he has all the answers.

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From: Helen
Date: 26 May 23 - 04:15 PM

Big Al Whittle, I agree:

"...people who confine their behaviour to what is lawful."

and I would add ethical, empathetic, and a bunch of other essential human qualities.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:43 AM

here endeth another week of DT walking round free as a bird, laughing his ass off at those people who confine their behaviour to what is lawful.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump INDICTED (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:39 AM

He posted the same dismal thing in the joke thread. The JOKE thread...

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 10:11 AM

DuhSantis strikes me as a bullied wanna-be bully that would accept Trump's Vice Presidency. Moral decrepitude knows no bounds.

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From: gillymor
Date: 26 May 23 - 08:26 AM

That was lame and crude.

My ideal scenario: trump eviscerates Duh Santis on a "debate" stage, ending his presidential aspirations and then checks into a Federal prison.

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From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 23 - 07:30 AM

There is still room for sarcastic satire;
CLEARWATER, FL—Hoping that she had done enough to obtain one of the coveted feminine hygiene products, local Florida woman Jessica Calderon filled out a 25-page application Thursday in order to receive a tampon. The Florida legislature included the menstrual cycle as a form of abortion in the killing of an unfertilized egg via tampons.
Dr. Bubba Wilcox testified Thursday on the killing of unfertilized eggs and the legislature amended their 6 week abortion ban...