Mudcat CD

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 11:00 AM

The third printing arrived recently, so there will be no delay in filling orders. So order, already.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: MMario
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 08:15 AM

well - after much delay (my fault) I finally got around to purchasing the set for *myself* and have started listening to them. Wow! I'm still partial to 'Plum' - but 'Rose' and 'Strawberry' have both blown me away as well. Can't wait to get the chance to hear the other two.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Tinker
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 08:44 AM

Wow! Thanks for the info Dick. The music itslef was a great accomplishment, but knowing that it worked as a fund raiser too is extra icing on the cake.

Kathy

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 08:39 AM

Aw, thanks, MM. But I'm a little busy right now...


A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: MMario
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 08:37 AM

You volunteering Amos? *grin*

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Alice
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:48 PM

Fantastic. A pat on the back to everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:30 PM

Way cool, Dick. And thank you for your direct and timely help, especially! And for your open book policy!! This is really a community "win", IMHO. We should do it again! :>)

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:13 PM

As promised: here's the summary accounting for the Mudcat CDs


         gross sales        Postage           adj. Gross        COGS
                                
VIOLET              $46.50                        
PLUM            $213.00                        
ORCHID              $76.50                        
ROSE            $108.00                        
STRAWBERRY   $135.00                        
SET           $5,110.00                        

SUM           $5,689.00        $526.00           $5,110.00   $1,900.00*


NET Profit:         $3,210.00*

*COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) includes payment for third printing.
We also will have an inventory of 20 sets, plus several individual CDs.

These(IMO) impressive figures are the direct result of volunteer performers, recording and mastering, printing, cataloging, shipping and handling. Thanx to everyone!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 03:22 PM

Gawd, computers are strange! I opened the tracklists for all 5 CDs several times this morning (at the top of the forum where it invites you to "Order Mudcat CDs." and each time the Strawberry track list came out blurry and the other 4 looked fine.

Now Strawberry looks fine, too. Did somebody fix it, or are there gremlins in this here computer? (I'm not on my regular powerbook; I'm on an iMac with high-speed DSL connection via Safari--which usually works beautifully.)

Anyway, it's all better now.

So order the CDs, y'hear?

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:26 PM

I just noticed you do have a link to the "Liner Notes" on the "Ordering Info" page, but it's only to the insert blurb that Amos did. There is no link to or mention of the liner notes that have lyrics, etc.

BTW, Dick, why is Strawberry all blurry? (The track listings are really fuzzy for Strawberry--which obviously is the BEST CD, since Amos, Áine, and I are all on it!*--but not for the others.)

Genie (ducking and running for cover)

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: MMario
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:18 PM

genie - mention it to Pene...

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:14 PM

Hey, Dickie!
How 'bout posting a link to the liner notes with each CD cover shot and playlist in the promo box for the CDs (above the forum threads)?

It'd be great if everyone who ordered (or considered ordering) a CD a SET of 5 CDs (Think positively!) would automatically be directed to the liner notes PermaThreads.

Whaddya think?

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:13 PM

Hell, TGG, I dunno about the others without whom this could never have happened, but for my wee part, you're more than welcome -- especially since you were part of the inspiration for it!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Áine
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 07:21 AM

Yee-haw! Way to go, Catters!

And here's another chance to say 'thank you' to all those involved in the project -- THANK YOU!!

-- Áine

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 12:30 AM

Fan-frolickin'-tastic, Dick!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: michaelr
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 07:46 PM

YES!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 09:14 AM

I'll sort out the statistics and post them here within the next couple of days. One thing I'm sure of--to date, the series has resulted in over $3200 going to support Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:07 AM

Which is a decent piece of change to pay the ISP and maintain Tao. Minus a couple of review copies to radio stations.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: MMario
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 07:53 AM

first printing was 60, second was 20 - so I would venture to guess that close to 80 sets have been sold.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 02:55 AM

So, how many sets have been sold altogether, Dick?

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 12:25 AM

Yeeeehaaa!! Flood Dick! Dick-Flood!! Yay!!!!


Y'know -- I mean -- why not?? Flood Dick!!


A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: michaelr
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 11:14 PM

That's great news, Dick! I'd guess if you can keep ordering them in 20-set increments, you shouldn't have to worry about not selling out. When the demand flags, we can always have a special promotion to flog off leftover inventory.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 08:46 PM

Well, the second printing (only 20 sets) of the Mudcat Blueplate Special is sold out. I guess there'll be a third printing; I hope not to be stuck with left overs.

Keep on flooding!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 08:46 PM

Folks, if you are finding some of the Liner Notes PermaThreads disjointed, I should tell you that Violet, Strawberry, and Plum all have complete or nearly complete lyrics in printable form. If you look thru the whole PermaThread, you'll find them.

Orchid and Rose are not as complete -- we still need some lyrics -- but I have recently posted what we have in composite form (all the songs in one post, instead of just in separate posts).

I hope we can get all the song lyrics and credits in by the end of this month.

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 08:34 AM

Way to go, Genie! A real important job, and well done.!! Here's to all of youse who buckled down and got it done!


A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: MMario
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 08:03 AM

HUZZAH!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 10:51 PM

The liner notes are ready to print for Plum and Violet. I think Strawberry lacks lyrics for only one song, and Orchid and Rose are almost done.

I have tried to set it up so you can print directly fromt he Liner Notes threads, without downloading.

In my next post, I will supply the links for the "Printable Liner Notes" --to date.

You can, if you wish, convert those to other formats. And Lin from Kansas is making them available as PDF files.

Please remember that these liner notes are WORKS IN PROGRESS. Folks may make corrections and/or add info (e.g., links to Mudcat Photos) at any time.

Now, let's hear a big "HUZZAH!" for all the folks involved in the Mudcat CD project -- a real community endeavor!

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 07:00 PM

PS, the horizontal divider lines in the printable liner notes are between songs. They aren't meant to be "cut or fold" lines.

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 11:23 AM

Yes, Amos,
If you open up the post that contains the small print liner notes, you should be able to print directly from that and trim and fold to go into the CD case. (If it's a hair too wide, just set your printer for, say, 97%.)

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Alice
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 11:04 PM

By the way, if anyone wants to hear one of my tracks, Green Fields of Amerikay, you can listen to the mp3 free on my site. Nothing to sign up for, no cookies, no popups, nada, just music.

http://my.montana.net/aliceflynn/audio.html

Alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 11:02 PM

Genie:

If I understand it aright, the notion is to open the Permathread and send it to the printer and then the output can be trimmed and folded to CD size -- is that the scheme? Or am I missing a piece?

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Alice
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 10:51 PM

Thanks for all the work you've done, Genie.
Good job.

Alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 08:57 PM

Keep watching those Mudcat CD Liner Notes PermaThreads, folks. The printable liner notes are shaping up fast! Violet & Plum are ready now (though we may yet get info added) and Strawberry's not far behind.


Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 09:10 AM

Amazing? Not really, Art. Just a glutton for punishment, I guess (or too dumb to know when not to stick your hand up when they ask for volunteers). But thanks.

Also, too dumb or too lazy to download Netscape 7 until a few days ago. When I finally did (because my main email at Onebox.com won't open any more with the older versions), I discovered all sorts of new features and capabilities for composing, editing and posting things to the net.

With Netscape 7.2, the job of doing these liner notes is much, much, much easier and faster!

Anyway, the small print liner notes are ready now for Violet and Plum and we're just an inch or so away from done for Strawberry. Lin has been helping a LOT (as did Bradfordian, Ebbie, and several others).

And I found that run-on underscoring you folks were talking about. It was on Violet, not Plum. It's fixed now.

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 06:11 PM

Genie,

Thank you so much. You are amazing.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD - liner notes
From: Genie
Date: 08 Mar 03 - 12:36 AM

Just got the Plum CD liner notes formatted in small print so they can be printed directly from the CD liner notes thread and folded to fit into the CD jewel case. (Why do they call it that, anyhoo?)

The post with the composite liner notes is close to the end of the thread, and there's a link to it in the first post of the thread.

We're still missing lyrics for one song and a few odd bits of other info, but take a look and tell me what you think.

Lin's PDF file notes look great, too!

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: treewind
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:51 AM

Just an afterthought about formats:
My support for PDF was based on the assumption that this would be in a form that could be printed out and turned into a CD sized booklet to go in the jewel case with the CD.

If it's not for that, and it's just to go on the web somewhere, HTML with CSS will do me just fine.

By the way, Kevin (McG of H):
PDF can be searched, or at least searchable versions of PDF are possible.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 06:35 PM

Lin:

I'm right down here in the SW corner. PM me for driving instructions!! :>)

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 05:43 PM

Composite liner notes for Plum CD (to date): http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=55150&messages=52#903422

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 05:34 PM

Yup. The "cut" or "fold" lines will be in a different place if you add one or more lines to the liner notes.

G

BTW, Strawberry, Plum, and Violet liner notes are nearly done. We have all the lyrics for Violet but are missing a few credit items (e.g., who all is singing). I think we need lyrics for only one song on Strawberry (Bold Jackie Tar, IIRC) and one or two (Braes Of Yarrow, e.g.,) on Plum.

The composite Plum notes, to date, are now in order and posted close to the end of the thread. Look for Lin's PDF files to be available soon for Plum.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 05:17 PM

Formatting them? Yeah, but that was supposed to be after they had all been collected completely! :>)

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 03:39 AM

Well, folks, Lin from Kansas has graciously offered to take over the Plum CD liner notes and format them in PDF!! Thanks, Lin!

Amos, be warned -- if Lin gets near you, you're gonna get smothered with hugs and kisses for all your work on these great CDs! ;-D  )

Understatement of the year: "It was more than either of us reckoned on, I guess ... ." I seem to recall saying that formatting the liner notes would probably take two or three hours. (Pardon me while I indulge myself in a fit of hysterical laughter.)

Anyway, the liner notes ARE shaping up, and more folks like Bardfordian and Ebbie and Lin are pitching in. We'll get 'em done soon.

Lin asked why I hadn't included "fold here" or "cut here" lines in the "printable/insertable" liner notes for the Violet CD. That's because
a) I can't post a vertical border in the forum, and
b) I don't want to post horizontal divider lines until I get ALL the lyrics and other liner notes gathered for a given CD. We still need a couple of songs for Violet.

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Mudlark
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 02:57 AM

Just want to add my thanks, Genie, for the liner notes work. And also to say of my friends that appreciate, tho don't play, acoustic music have ordered CD's and are very impressed with them.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 01:23 AM

I'll add my thanks, free of editorial comments, so you are assured also that appreciation of your work was intended in my earlier post. I've bided my time, waiting while they're being perfected so haven't printed any of the notes, but each time I put the Mudcat CD's on to play and particular songs resonate strongly, I know I'll have to get those notes soon. My ears prick up and I think "Wow! I want to sing along!"

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Amos
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:56 AM

Genie:

Just wanted to say THANK YOU!! for you persistence and goodwill in taking ont he liner notes work. It was more than either of us reckoned on, I guess, and you're carrying forward like a true trouper.

Thanks!


A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Night Owl
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:37 AM

thanks for the repairs Genie.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:10 AM

It was just one of the versions that had the underline on it, the first link in the message. The others all look great. I didn't go look at the source code because I could see where the typo must have taken place without it. (I get lots of practice going back to fix my own html typos!)

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 08:49 AM

Genie, the upper part of the Violet permathread is all underlined as mentioned, but the later (smaller) font is OK. For Connecticut Waltz, you have my liner notes on the upper (underlined) part but nothing later in the smaller font.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 03:02 AM

Funny thing, SRS, I just went to the links on Violet, and the formatting looks OK - no extended underlining that I can see. Is it possible for that underlining to show up on one computer and not on another?

Genie

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD
From: Genie
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 02:57 AM

SRS, the amended link right above your post should take you to Part I of the small print liner notes.

Thanks for catching that formatting error, too.

Genie