Mudcat CD II: Making It Real

Subject: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 03:41 PM

 The candidates for the MUDCAT SAMPLER CD are streaming in, and boy do we have some talent in these ranks, I tell ya!!  This is going to be a Hoot of a CD to be on, to buy, own and listen to.

Here's the schedule,  in rough blocks:

 
Collection of Candidates  ---- up to end of May
Review and Prelim Selection --- May-June
Final Selection                           ------June
Initial Build-                              -------------July
Quality Enhancement/Normalization -------July - August
Final Build                                                    ------------ August
Organize Logistics for Distribution ----------June--- -----August
Final QA                                                                                ---August
Release                                                                            ---------------Early September

This means that if the Mudcat Sampler CD is to include your cuts, it has to be among  the collected candidates FOB my place by the end of May at the latest, and preferably by the end of April.

So get strummin'!

And for those of you who have written entries for inclusion in the Mudcat SONG BOOK, a separate collection of SONGS FROM THE MUDCAT SONGBOOK is being organized.  But I have enough songs in there to make a whole CD of just mine, which wouldn't be very interesting! So ya better help  me out and record some of those choons, you perfervid talents, you!!

If ya wanna send me stuff, PM me or email me at this address and I'll send you the address.  I prefer CDs, or MP3 files, but will manage with tapes if that's what you got!!& nbsp; Or mail me MP3s or point me to  a download site.

Warm regards,

Amos

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Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Morticia
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 06:36 PM

Mine's on it's way.....now you'll be sorry *BG*

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 08:19 PM

great but what do all those nbsps mean??

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 11:54 PM

It means Amos is munching on pretzels coated with crunchy peanut butter again, without a glass of milk handy.

~S~

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 01:54 AM

Thanks to the Mudelves (:>)) the peanut butter got cleaned up!!

They were an artifact caused by copying HTML source code and pasting it -- somehow they got treated as literal characters rather than as hard spaces in the HTML display.

Morty, I ain't sorry a whit!! That was beautiful!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 01:57 AM

Part One of this discussion can be found over here if you need to refer to it.

Regards,

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Cappuccino
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 03:53 AM

Amos - what on earth is 'normalization'? Apart from the fact that I suspect it's an American expression, I also expect it will disqualify just about all Catters!!!

Ours went airmail a week or so ago.

Regards

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 03:58 AM

Well, Ian, the concept I had in mind was when you review sound levels and fitlers used on all the cuts to make sure some of them aren't blaring out when you play the CD, and others recorded at lower level hard to hear, and so on. It doesn't mean making Mudcatters normal!! :>) Talk about an exercise in rampant futility!! LOL!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Night Owl
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:20 AM

Amos...this sounds EXCITING!! (Not the making Mudcatters "normal" part)....I mean putting together the CD!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:32 AM

Well, NO, send me some recordings of those wild hammers playing!

I am trying to stay calm, but, yes it is exciting to hear the voices from all over the world.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 11:58 AM

More tunes are coming in!

Come on you Catters! Get your stuff on a tape, CD or computer file and ship them out!

Represent the amazing Mudcat with the best stuff out there!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 12:16 PM

Amos: PM me an address and I'll get a tape in the mail. Sorry it ain't converted,

Bobert

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Robin2
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:06 PM

Amos,

Thanks for all your hard work on this! I can't wait to hear it!

Robin

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: MMario
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 09:02 PM

Amos - I'm trying to get a tape and/or CD that has a good enough recording quality to send in - hopefully will manage before the cut-off; but if not - next time around for sure!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 10:31 PM

MM;

Aw, you can do it. We're talking May to June for a real final.

Now you-all, DON'T GET HUNG UP on technical perfection. 'S not what we're about, ya know? Folkies, man. Ya foller?? :>)

Spring is upon us!! Renewal, creation, and the instants of refreshed love for life and new energy are upon us!! Round 'em up!! Move 'em out!! We're bound for the Mudcat Sampler CD!!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 11:26 PM

I already have complete mp3's on the internet that you can download. How about doing it that way instead of mailing a CD?
alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 12:24 AM

Sure, Alice!! As I recall you have a bunch -- can you remind me of the URL? I'll just pop over there and download some -- do you have favorites?

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 01:53 AM

Is there still a "panel" to decide which cuts get used?

DaveO, yes, I can still take your tape and convert it. PM me if you still want to do that and I'll give you my addy.

kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Tweed
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 07:13 AM

Email's on the way Amos. I want in this thing if I can make the cut!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: MMario
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:13 AM

Aside - Amos - I'm not hung up on technical perfection - but as the only recording device I have is a $15 handheld tape recorder - the tape hiss etc really doesns't make for a recording that would convert well. Hope to get a friend with a home studio to record something for me.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:35 AM

The agreements on the panel were documented in the first thread, over here. I'll send McGrath and Alice the data on choices available and made sometime in the May to June time frame. See 'Final Selection' above.

Kat, round up the Wenches and make 'em sing. :>) Ya want to put your Dad on there? Can do.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:03 AM

Click Here - http://mp3.com/AliceFlynn

Amos, some of the songs are just streaming right now, but I can change that so you can download a choice. Each of my songs are mentioned and linked somewhere on Mudcat threads, like Paddy's Lamentation, The Foggy Dew, etc. I suggest using LOVE IS TEASIN', as it connects to this Mudcat thread: Click Here

Let me know which track you want to use and I will make it available to download.

Alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Cappuccino
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:35 AM

OK, let's see about something from the British side. Any Catters within easy reach of Oxford who desperately want to submit something to Amos and haven't got the facilities, PM me - if it's something we can get down in a couple of tracks and a couple of takes, I'll record you on the mobile and send him something on CD.

I can manage solos or duos... can't manage bands, I regret.

Sorry, Amos, my friend... I'm just trying to submerge you in recordings!

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 01:27 PM

Deni's Mad Rush should be in here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 03:32 PM

Wotta gang!! Ya gotta love 'em.

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Morticia
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 04:03 PM

I can also (or at least Gomez can)offer pretty good recording facilities ( ask Amos). Anyone within reasonable reach of the Hampshire/Surrey Borders is/are welcome to come and have a warble.....we may even feed you *BG*

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Cappuccino
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:20 PM

Ah, there's the difference. Here, you bring your own food!

We must be not far north of you, Morticia.

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 11:20 PM

Alice:

Such BEAUTIFUL lyrical singing! I love it.

I've downloaded three for the sampler -- The Fields of Amerikay, Love is Teasin', and She Lived Beside the Anner. Dunno yet how crowded this CD will get but I think I feel a musical wind a-rising (unles that's just Spaw out for a walk....).

Thank you SO much!! Loverly, loverly, loverly!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: kendall
Date: 16 Apr 02 - 05:46 AM

I havn't been able to sing at all since last November, but, I can send you a CD that I made 6 or 7 years ago. None of my original stuff is on it, (I wanted it to sell)!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:28 AM

It's a DEAL, Kendall!! I'll PM you a snailmail address. What a blessing! Thanks!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:51 PM

You who brave the unknown and put your souls into a CD, MP3, aiff file or .wav file or tape for inclusion on this CD will be among the greatest constellations in folk music today!! People like Kendall Morse -- Rick Fielding -- and... who knows??? So get your fannie sin gear this weekend and make those songs happen!!

People, get ready!
They's a train a-comin'!
Don't neeeeed no ticket,
You just GET on booooard!

C'mon folkies around the world! Listen to the soul sister! :>) This is gonna be a humdinger!

Regards,

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Willie-O
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 07:53 PM

Hey Amos, I am slightly bereft of ideas about which if any of my tracks would fit into what yer doin. So if you have a chance, check it out and decide for yerself. My MP3 Siteis at your disposal. Let me know if theres any tracks there you would like me to make available for download, and I'll change the status. (most of the ones on my CD are streaming only now.)

Bill

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:00 PM

Willie-O:

Gawd, I love your stuff!!

Could you set The Anna Grace and Spring on the Mississippi to downloadable?

By the weay -- to anyone watching -- here's the corrected link -- if ya wanna hear some really sweet cuts from our own Willie-O -- a mighty fine player and singer of mighty fine music.

Now I've heard
There's another Mississippi
Flows through that town
Called New Orleans
The people there throw
A helluva party...

Regards,

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:02 PM

Can someone please help the addled, the old, and the technologically challenged?

How do I get a sample to someone? Do you need a copy of the original studio DAT for this? Will a CD work? How does it need to be sent? Who do I send to?

And, does anyone know who owns the rights to "Mingulay" (I should...we did the song, and I *still* have no idea if we're paying any royalties)? Barring that, "Old Redcoat" is an original, and would definately not be subject to any legal entanglements.

Thanks in advance for the leg-up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:12 PM

Celtic Soul:

I can handle a CD if you'll mail me one; I will send you a PM with my address. The general plan is outlined up above on this thread.

I have not firm opinion one way or the other on the royalty issue -- there is no profit involved, and all the performers are voluntering their recordings, in order to help support a non-profit organization. Anyone who wants to make stinkum about that is mean, in my opinion!! L:>)

See PM, and thanks!!!

Amos

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:15 PM

Alright, I am an utter and complete nincumpoop. I just re-read the original post for this thread...so, just ignore that last post.

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 02 - 10:47 PM

That was no man, that was my Celtic Soul!!! Doncha worry about it none, ducky. Gotcher email...

Regards,

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: MMario
Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:29 AM

'Mingulay' is credited as 'trad' on 'Love at Fyrst Nyte' - and I don't think I've ever seen it listed elsewise.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: harvey andrews
Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:35 AM

If it's a fundraiser I'm happy to send a track Amos, can you send me your address so I can send a cd? Harvey

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:18 PM

You bet, harvey -- send several of your favorites and we'll see how much room we have when they're all in!! Fame and Karma await!!!

A.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 12:07 AM

Guys:

I REALLY REALLY want to represent the WHOLE Mudcat universe here.

Don't hang back!!

This is the most amazing community, I've heard it said, that the Internet has seen since the days when the Well invented threads.

So lettuce not be shy, reticent, disgruntled, aloof, indisposed, introverted, remote, inflexible, apathetic, indifferent, removed, disengaged, unyielding, obstinate, catatonic, fixated, frozen, entropic, passive or unmoving!! Step forth and put your music out there for the Mudcat Sampler CD!!! You will be glad you did!! And so will hundreds of other people!! Imagine!! Act!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Cappuccino
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 02:28 AM

I refrain from expressing my open-mouthed wonder at Amos' vocabulary and enthusiasm, lest it disqualify my own humble entry...

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 11:32 AM

Thanks, kindly, Ian, but all music entries are reviewed strictly on the basis of merit against a rigorously defined standard of personal bias. LOL!! So, you have nothing to worry about!

Best regards,

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:20 PM

There are many Mudcat members on mp3.com, and I compiled two stations of music taken from most of those Mudcatter sites.

The first is The Wild Bird's Nest and the second was called Mudcat Music II.

For some time, Mudcat Music II was being blocked, although I contacted mp3.com about the problem. I decided to re-assign the URL and name it More Mudcat Music - still blocked, then finally came to the conclusion that mp3.com's new filtering of adult content must have caught English Jon's band name "Whoreticulture". Sorry, Jon, but when I removed your track, the link worked again as

More Mudcat Music.

If we don't hear from all the Mudcatters on those stations, I'll send emails to let them know of this opportunity to do a group CD. There may be more members that I missed who answered the "Mudcatters on mp3.com" thread. Downloading off the net would be an easy way to compile tracks of those who want to participate.

Alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:53 PM

Alice:

I would really like to have those Mudcatters on mp3.com included as well on the CD - Anahata and Chris Amos are already providing tracks, but I am not sure of all the names of the other Mudcatters (I mean the mudcat names).

If you'll PM me an email address, we can follow up on this part separately.

A.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 11:09 PM

Mudcatters All:

Please don't put off readying some cuts for this CD! I don't want to miss any of your many amazing talents!!

Step forward!! Lemme hear from ya!!

Many thanks.

Amos

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 20 Apr 02 - 10:14 AM

Recordings from the MUDCAT ADVENTURE, when Bill Sables and Allan C traveled on the road trip to meet Mudcatters, would be a great addition to the compilation. I just wrote to Allan regarding this - I am sure he has recordings of Mudcatters they met and made music with, and others along the trail made their own recordings when Bill and Allan visited. I would like to hear the best from that road trip to include many of the people who played/sang when Bill and Allan visited.

Do we have Australians and Kiwis included yet? Members in Japan? Where is Skarpi? Joe Offer? Anyone reading this who can think of more people to include, please contact them and let them know of this opportunity.

Alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: WyoWoman
Date: 20 Apr 02 - 11:05 AM

Oh, oh. I wanna play. I wanna play.

The person who was going to record my CD has had some very bad stuff come up personally and so that's down the tubes. I wonder if I have another likely suspect in my life who could record a couple of songs for me....

Hmmmphf.... lemmee see ...

I'll find someone. Where there's a will, there's a contested settlement!

Love and rockets, WW

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Amos
Date: 20 Apr 02 - 11:09 AM

Oh, Wyo!! So glad you chimed in, I was about to write you!

Skarpi is readying something.

I LOVE the idea of the Sables & Alan tour cuts being included. And anyone who has other "Gathering" songs they think should be included, send them along too! No reason it has to be limited to single acts!

It's gonna happen folks and folkies!! A Magical Mudcat Mystery Tour. Ya gotta be there!!

A

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD II: Making It Real
From: Alice
Date: 20 Apr 02 - 01:54 PM

I do have some recordings of the Adventure tour. Will do my best to coordinate that.

By the way, folks, another issue brought to my attention is that music that is not in the public domain or that you do not have the rights to record could become problematic if we have to hassle with getting copyright permission. So, original work you created, works you have persmission to record from the copyright owners, and PUBLIC DOMAIN songs/tunes will be easiest to use.

Alice