MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....

Subject: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 15 May 02 - 10:32 PM

Section Four of this wondeful planetary proposition can be found over here. We are ONTRACK and ON SCHEDULE!! Yeahhhhh TEAM!.

For those who have forgotten what the top of the last thread even looked like (!) here's the schedule for producing the planet's first ALL MUDCAT SAMPLER CD:

Collection of Candidates  ---- up to end of May

Review and Prelim Selection --- May-June
Final Selection-------------------------- ------June
Initial Build- ------------------------------July
Quality Enhancement/

Normalization -------------------- -----July - August
Final Build---------------------------- ---------- August
Organize Logistics for Distrib: June--- ----- August
Final QA---------------------------- ---------------- - -- August
Release  --------------------- ---------- ---- ----------- Early September.

Make it over the finish line with your own best songs on tape, MP3, WAV, AIFF, CD or call me up and sing to me over the damn telephone!!

We're gonna bring this one through in style, guys and dolls...thanks to your help in so many, many ways.

A

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Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 15 May 02 - 11:00 PM

Yayhooo!! Rick's stuff is on the way!! Callie's sending songs! Rollo's sending songs! Lonesome EJ is sending a Gangsang tape. You know the famous soloist, Dee Hoal Gangsang?

What a gang, I swan....well, I not really Swann, he works with Fielding, I think in the Layabout trade....I Amos. Or that's what they tell me anyway :>)

Thanks, Rick! Thanks, Callie, LEJ, Rollo, and everyone else who's chiming in -- this is going to be terrific stuff, a kinda of historic milestone you can pass on to your great grandkids, if they can figure out how to play a CD!! :>)

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Áine
Date: 15 May 02 - 11:05 PM

Dear BardoftheFam,

Being the big hockey fan that I am (even though the Stars pooped out of the playoffs this year), I can't believe that I'm beginning to resent the Stanley Cup Playoffs -- I'm having to sit through Game 7 of San Jose vs. Colorado (a plague on both their houses!!) -- when Dear Hubby should be 'producing' the songs I recorded to send you for the MC CD.

Still hoping that he'll get 'em together to send to you this weekend . . . Though it may require a stern phone call from yourself to correct the situation (hahaha).

-- Áine

Go Toronto!!!!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 16 May 02 - 12:21 AM

That's a good strategy, O Goddess -- always root for the possible! LOL!! I'll call him up and whine at him Friday night, right in the middle of the game, huh? Think that'll do it??? :>)

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 May 02 - 08:27 AM

Duh!!!!!!!!!! You already HAVE our tape! "Pass Me Not O Gentle Savior," not that whistling thing! Use the band name, The Good News-Goodtime Band, spelt and hyphenated just like that.

DUUUUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

~S~

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 16 May 02 - 09:58 AM

Well, dearest Wizz, I will have to go looking around to see what I have of yours cuz it has been a long time. See, if you'd kept that Mac ya coulda made an MP3 right on the spot!! Tsk..... :>)

Love ya,

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 May 02 - 11:49 AM

Last seen in the "music in your cars" thread.

~S~

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 16 May 02 - 08:42 PM

WOW! A tape from mmm-mmy-my buddy Mmmmario!! And Steve-O!!! And Martin Ryan!! All the way from Eire!!

My evening is rich,. Notr only that I got recitations from Amergin to boot!.

Whew!! I'm gonna be working me little anvils and tympanis to the bone!!

Thanks guys!! I LOVE it when a plan comes together, and this one is marching ahead handsomely.

Warmest regards,

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 16 May 02 - 10:08 PM

Amos! Do tell, do tell! What's the playlist look like so far??? What songs have been selected for the project, and by whom???

I am so excited I could bust! :D

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 17 May 02 - 02:08 PM

BTW, in case nobody has said this yet, "Thankyou, Amos, for the time and work that you have put into this!!!" I'm certain that the end product of you labor will be something of which we can all be proud.

Stephen

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: MMario
Date: 17 May 02 - 02:27 PM

I keep waiting for the

"

HAHA!

Now I have all these wonderful recordings and you people don't!"

But Amos is probably too nice to do that. Or at least Barky wouldn't let him.

but I could be wrong.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: khandu
Date: 17 May 02 - 05:56 PM

Hey, Amos! I may just get in by a nose, but I am sending some recordings!

khandu

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: RolyH
Date: 17 May 02 - 06:07 PM

Just be beware if Amos leaves a forwarding address in Northern England!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Áine
Date: 17 May 02 - 06:28 PM

Hey Amos -- you went and wasted your 'stern phone call' money talking to me a little while ago -- ya should've saved it for the game tonight (hahaha). Don't worry 'bout Dear Hubby wasting any more time with the hockey this weekend -- the black birthday lingerie is under his pillow, and it's 'produce or die' time, now. ;-)

I'd say to start watching your email for a Mydocs email about this time tomorrow (gotta let the boy rest up, don't ya know!).

Luv ya, TGG

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 17 May 02 - 06:49 PM

You guys are a crack up!!

CS: the playlist isn't FINISHED yet!! Burt there's a beautiful recording of Mingulay on it, if that's what you're asking.

Let me say again that at this stageI am trying to include at least one cut from everyone who sends candidates.

I may not be able to stick to this intention if the economics don't work out. there was some discussion of using MP#.COM's "Burn and Ship on Demand" service, which is a lot cheaper to get in to, but the back-end costs are a base fee plus 50%, so I am not sure which way would bring the most dough in to the Mudcat. And that is the whole purpose here.

Anyway, I will publish the playlist after I have cleared it with McGrath and alice as I agreed to do earlier (I think that was in thread 1).

And I already said I was enjoying the fringe benefit of listening to all these wonderful CDs and tapes!! How could I make a secret out of that!!!

If anyone really wants their CD back, after the selctions and master are done, I will return it and pay for the postage back, which I guess would only be fair.

RolyH: Northern England in May would be most wonderful, if I could get allthese tapes and CDs through the Customs guys!!! LOL!!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 17 May 02 - 09:58 PM

Amos...

Nah, I could care less which one of ours you use. I am *very* interested in knowing what *else* there will be, however! I realize the play list is not complete...I just thought I might be able to worm the short list outta you anyway. ;)

Can't blame a gal for trying! :D

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: WyoWoman
Date: 17 May 02 - 10:51 PM

Oh, goodie. Just got a note from LEJ and he says he's sent you a tape of the Magical Night in Colorado when we jammed with Sables and Allan on their World Domination Tour. Can't wait to hear that and all the other frabjous 'Catters' contributions.

Who-HOOOO!

WW

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Cappuccino
Date: 18 May 02 - 02:51 AM

I see that we can now get music-quality recordable CDs which have up to 80 minutes on, instead of the usual 74 minutes.

That extra six minutes is a great relief for someone who submitted a 6-minute song...!!!!

All the best, Amos, just in case I forgot to say 'thanks' for the effort.

- Ian B

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 02 - 03:01 AM

Thanks, gang.

The reason the schedule up above is so genrerous is I can only do this part time so Ihave to pad the timeline accordingly; plus I think I have learned that any job swells up to fill any time available for it. Funny how that works!

Yes!! LEJ's session tape came today and Ihave been out all afternoon so i haven't even played it yet, but tomorrow for breakfast!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: hesperis
Date: 18 May 02 - 03:11 AM

*Mental picture of Amos EATING the tape rather than putting it in the stereo...*

Oh, god... catfish eating a blue reflecting CD with knife and fork in fins... and a dashing knapkin tied at the throat... Mudcat Cafe: Blue Plate Special...

Am I weird? Or is it just this place doing things to my brain? rotfl!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 May 02 - 12:17 PM

Amos, you're only part-time on this? What kind of dedication is that? Better give notice at your day job. Tell 'em you're on your way to becoming the Phil Spector of the New Folk Movement.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 02 - 02:53 PM

Well, okay LEJ, but ya better send me one of those "geek wannabe counter-boy" applications for afterwards. "Employer of last resort" kinda thing. Used to be the Post Office when ABC's was the standard of minimum knowledge; but in the Information Age, it's volts and bytes, and Radio Shack! :>)

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: MartinRyan
Date: 18 May 02 - 06:22 PM

Amos

Let me know if that MD is OK, please.

Regards

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 May 02 - 07:10 PM

Sorry, Amos. I just don't think you're Radioshack material. (You should definitely see that as a compliment)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 02 - 08:40 PM

Martin:

I have been overwhelmed by honeydew this weekend but should be able to get it to it tomorrow, okay?

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Llanfair
Date: 19 May 02 - 06:30 AM

Amos, are you going to post a list of CD's that you've got so far? Then those of us a long way away can make sure you get a replacement if it's lost in the post.

And you really are doing a grand job!!! I can't wait to get my copy of the CD/s.

Cheers. Bron.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 02 - 04:09 PM

That Amos will never make a worthy layabout. I tried to teach him but to no avail!

~S~

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 02 - 05:43 PM

I've been reading these threads, on and off, for a while, and I think it's a great idea.

Without wanting to be a prophet of doom, you need to be very careful about copyright for this project.

It's not enough to say that the contributors 'should take care of it' themselves.

Mudcat will also be vicariously liable if any copyright infringement occurs.

I don't want to spoil the party, but do check these things out.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 02 - 10:24 PM

I slipped schedule this weekend, guys, due to a sudden burst of demand from the house itself for deferred maintenance -- replacing ten feet of non-standard size planking that had been rotted by moisture and by termites over the decades. A much longer job than Ihad anticipated.

Bron, I'll get a comprehensive list of items received out. If you sent something not yet acknowledged, please

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 02 - 11:21 PM

Martin:

Your Minidisc works perfectly!! A loverly voice hast thou, I will say!! I love "Henry Joy" especially! That is one of its kind that I had never heard before. Great stuff.

Thanks so much!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 02 - 07:37 PM

Callie:

Got it!! Your group is really sweet, ma'am!! I like it a BUNCH!

I love that "Waltzing With Bears!" LOL!!

Thanks so much!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 02:29 PM

Bron:

Your CD "Songs from Ashdale" just arrived!! I am tearing it open with my teeth as I type. Can't wait to hear it!!

Warmest rergards,

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: greg stephens
Date: 21 May 02 - 02:58 PM

Amos, give us a hint how many contributions have arrived so far. Seems to me your ambition to put one track on from every contributor is not likely to be realisable, given the interest the project is generating. You can only get about 25 standard length tracks on a CD...surely you must have had 25 submissions already? Or are we talking a double CD? Mine is on the way, incidentally.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 May 02 - 03:12 PM

Well, A, as far as I can tell you've received approximately 80 tapes and Cds. That equates to roughly 4 days of 24-hour listening sessions from which to glean about one hour of music.

Not that I would be in any way capable of doing it, but boy am I glad its you and not me! :>}

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: greg stephens
Date: 21 May 02 - 03:21 PM

I don't it'll be quite such a hard job. I imagine I'm not the only one who has given a preferred track.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Mudlark
Date: 21 May 02 - 03:26 PM

Amos...am struggling with mike nervousness, but whether or not I can get a tape to you just wanted to send you a GIANT thank you for doing this...if your schedule slips by a year I still think you are doing a great job. And I, for one, would be happy to pay for a double CD, tho you might not be so happy to produce one!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: greg stephens
Date: 21 May 02 - 03:28 PM

if Lonesome EJ's estimate is correct we're talking quadruple CD.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 03:59 PM

Yeah, you guys are looking right at the teeth of the problem. If we go with MP3.com's service we can lower the entry costs dramatically in exchange for reduced margins, disk robustness and revenue stream; but also gaining a simplified logistics model.

Max and Dick will be chatting about all of it soon.

I am still assembling the table of all received stuff, and it isn't small. Just the stuff I have processed so far adds up to 45 tracks, about 2.5 hours. There's a little room for thinning there but none I like! So we may have to find a path more to our liking. I'd love to produce a 4-disk boxed set but the cost of starting the operation would be quite high.

More as it develops, gang. Thanks so much for all that great support and those wonderful songs. Ya gotta love this communitym don't ya just??

LEJ did I tell you your Wyo tape (Dee Hoal Gangsang and the Play Sex Ploadeds) arrived?? I'm listening to it tonight!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: GUEST,Wes
Date: 21 May 02 - 04:04 PM

Amos,

Could you not go halfway: have tracks from everyone on mp3.com (or something similar) and a 'Best Of' on CD?

Sure, you might upset the people who didn't make the 'Best Of' but that's life.

Just a thought

Wes

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: greg stephens
Date: 21 May 02 - 04:31 PM

Well, Amos, from your information you and the selectors are going to have to make some difficult decisions that won't give you any pleasure. But do remember that every one of us who shove our music in front of the public will hae received both acceptance and rejection before, and will hopefully have figured out some mechanisms to cope with both. So don't get in a state about it! My Consideration Facilitation Contribution will arrive shortly in used fivers in a brown envelope.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 May 02 - 04:32 PM

Amos said "If we go with MP3.com's service we can lower the entry costs dramatically in exchange for reduced margins, disk robustness and revenue stream; but also gaining a simplified logistics model."

I don't have a clue what it means, but man I dig that kinda talk!

Good to go,

LEJ

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 04:48 PM

Means its easier, man, but it makes less dough!! LOL!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: MMario
Date: 21 May 02 - 04:49 PM

translation:

[tech mode off] it will cost less, but yield less profit per CD, the CD's won't be as sturdy; and the overall revenue will be less. but it would make life simpler [tech mode on]

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Áine
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:11 PM

MMario -- THANKS FOR THE TRANSLATION!!! ;-)

Dear Amos - May I humbly suggest that we go ahead with 'in-hand' CDs; but, spread the wealth, so to speak, with three or four issues (i.e., Vols. 1, 2, etc.). Not only would that method make more money for the Mudcat, it would also spread out the drains on your time, energy, etc.

Just a suggestion from She Who Still Waits For Dear Hubby To Produce . . . ;-)

Luv ya, TGG

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:16 PM

Dang, Tex, you're a helluva lot smarter than the average Californian. No wonder Ah loves ya!! :>)) Thanks for the good advice!

MM -- good translation, man!! Dju gedda MBA somewhere?? LOL!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: GUEST,Wes
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:21 PM

Aine, agree with you totally regarding the preferability of an 'in hand' CD.

The only problem with your suggestion is that, say, Amos did Volume 2 in a years time, there would then be many more submissions vying for attention, and Amos would have the same problem, and would get no sleep, and get cranky, and....

I thought my suggestion above was pretty good, but I don't have a cookie, so no-one much listens

Wes

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:30 PM

Yes! Great Idea! (an'btw, ah doan kar a snit ifn' ah doan make the kut)There are a LOT of folks here who are way better than I am............takes quite a lot to get my knickers in a knot anymore.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:36 PM

Wes:

Aww, I'm sorry!! I had just had the same thought a few minutes before I opened up the thread so I thought I was seeing a reflection!! LOL

It's a good idea; we have to see how El Max feels about the MP3 idea. It's his decision because it involves a relationship between his site and a commercial organization, even though soemwhat indirectly. And not everyone loves MP3.com -- references available on request! :>)

I like you even without a cookie!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 05:53 PM

Sorch:

About the knots in your knickers...I'm not worried about getting them IN! ...how does one get them out (without breaking a finger or something)?

Aw, geeze -- I'm going outside!! LOL!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 May 02 - 06:13 PM

Aaaaaammmoooooos----let's not go there, OK?