MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!

Subject: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 07:42 PM

Greetings, all:

This is the new thread for all postings relating to the Mudcat CD project.

The previous thread on this long slow tale can be found over here in part 6.

I am awaiting news on the table of contributions I have compiled -- Pene Azul is reviewing the table for technical purity.

So stay tuned to this spot!

...Anytime now....

...Don't touch that dial....

...Right....

....Y'all come back real soon hear???

Regards,

A

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Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 08:18 PM

Silver songs at daybreak
When the singin's o'er.
And th'assembled 'Catters
Can't sing any more.
Pickin' hands seem weary,
Session has been long,
Still th'assembled 'Catters
Want one more song,
Want to sing one final song.

Nigel

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 10:02 PM

Nigel -- Well said.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 01:35 AM

Sorry for the delays -- the table needs to be reworked -- I'll try again tomorrow, okay?

Nice turn, Nigel!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: GUEST,karen k
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 01:52 AM

Amos, When do we find out who made it on to the cd?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Mudlark
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 02:41 AM

Nice song, Nigel...you're right, too....I never want to stop.

Amos...gogogogo! Mudcatters all over the world are staring into the white glare of their monitor, hanging by and on a thread, waiting for the word!

But. No pressure!

Mil gracias and a thousand thanks for taking this on, Amos!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: MMario
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:10 AM

purity? my g*d we're talking mudcatters here, and they are trying to find PURITY????

we're doomed....

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:59 AM

LOL, MM!! Well, I dunno -- maybe simplicity is the word I was looking for. You can confuse the two pretty easily, huh?

Here's the deal: the display of all the materials is a long table and the tools I have all add crap in the HTML they generate, such as styles and other fancy bells and whistles. Jeff asked me to trim the superfluous stufgf out of the HTML. When I have done so, it will be a long simple table listing all the contributions so far.

I don't want anyone thinking I have ignored them, even though I have been submerged in more pressing demands from the 3D world, and taken a "vacation".

Karen, the current plan is not to exclude anyone, but to sort representative cuts from all contributors into a series of CDs. If this turns out to be unfeasible, I'll bite the editorial bullet about inclusion/exclusion but it is not an approach I want to take if I csan help it -- not quite in the spirit of the thing -- despite Art telling me I have to learn to say "No"! LOL!

Tell me, why do they sing for their money
And why do they busk for short pay?
They ain't making their part, when they sing from the heart,
But the world loves to hear folkies play!

(Fretrider's Lament, 2002)

Well, ya know what I mean, huh?

Never fear, we'll get there!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: michaelr
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 07:53 PM

Amos, I'm standing by to work on the cover. Has it been determined whether we'll use Mudcat handles or people's real names?

Michael

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 08:10 PM

Mudcat handles is the current policy, unless specifically requested otherwise, michael.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 11:01 PM

I have sent the table off, well cleaned up, for technical approval from Pene. Hopefully the post containing it will pass review and show up here in a short while....I have my HTML-stained little fingers crossed!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 11:20 PM

Greetings, fellow Folkies!  The Mudcat CD Project stirs!! It mumbles!! It must be.....alive!!

I have finally had some time today to sort through the many wonderful tapes, files and CDs you all have sent. Thank you so much for singing and taping and sending.

Here is a preliminary table of the music that has been sent in. The spots marked TBD mean it hasn't been figgered out yet.

Please look this over and see if you can spot where I bolloxed up, left someone off by mistake, crossed up a name, or forgot something we had discussed.  I haven't left anyone out intentionally, I promise!! But I'm not the sharpest iglet in the nest sometimes :>)  And there was an awful lot of traffic being generated so if I dropped a stitch or two, be forebearing, eh?

You can let me know by PM or by emailing me.

If you have been remiss and would still like to get something in under the wire, Big Mick is holding the door ajar with his prominent spud for a while longer!!

Regards,  

Amos

And now....the table you have all been waiting for.....

Contributors to the Mudcat Sampler CDs

Mudcatter	MusicReceived	Medium	PreferredCut(s)
Áine	Iron Pots and Wooden Spoons	MP3	Iron Pots and Wooden Spoons
alanabit	Small Voice Crying	CD	Firelight
Alice	MP3	MP3	Green Fields of Amerikay Love Is Teasin'
Alison	Beyond the Stone Circle	MP3	Beyond the Stone Circle
Amos	Walla Walla Woman Blues	MP3	Walla Walla Woman Blues
Art Thieme	Stuff For Mudcat CD	Tape	TBD
Barbara Shaw	Shoregrass in Ct	CD	Last Old Shovel  A Waltz ForYou  Old Man At the Mill
Big Mick	TBD
Bill Sables	Bridging the Gap	CD	TBD
Bobert	"Bob H"	Tape	Arthur and Sally
Calie	Touchwood-The Great City	CD	TBD
Celtic Soul	Pyrates Rpyale	CD	Rollin' Down to Old Maui  Mingulay
Charcloth	Tartan Played	CD	100 Pipers
Chris Amos	Anahata and Amos	CD	TBD
derrymacash	Untitled	Tape	The Campsite at Drumcree
deni	MP3	MP3	There I must Lie
DharmaBum	Untitled	CD	Feels Like the Blues
Don Meixner	The Flying Column	CD	Nancy Whiskey
dwditty	Come Back Baby	MP3	Come Back Baby
English Jon	Untitled	CD	TBD
Frank from Toledo	Songs that Keep Me Singing	CD	TBD
Genie			My Man (with IanB)
greg stephens	A Trip to the Lakes -- The Boat Band	CD	Reels
Group Effort	Various	MP3	Maxie's Mudcat Blues (Musicman-Nightowl-Alison-Alan of Oz-Amos
Group Effort	Mudcat Live	Tape	TBD -- Songs with LEJ, Wyo,Bluejay, Rex, AllanC, Dan
Harpmaker	Oxytocin	CD	Rosedale Fair  The Ploughboy Lads Carrickfergus
harvey_andrews	The Gift	CD	The Song (Reprise)  If It Wasn't ForThe Song  From the Heart
hesperis	Skylark	MP3	Skylark
IanB	Caleb's Mission	CD	My Man (With Genie)
InOBU	SorchaDorcha Nil sasta	CD	Engine 33  Yvette's Song
Jeri	MP3s	MP3	Why We Sing  Wings of Song
John P	Telynor	CD	TBD
JustaPicker	MP3s	MP3	Mudcat Rag  Doc's Guitar  OhBabe
Karen K	Mudcat CD	Tape	TBD
kendall	Beginner's Luck	CD	Palace Grand  Gently Down the Stream of Time
khandu	Untitled	Tape	Strange World
KimC	MP3s	CD	Last Letter Home   Hard Times Come Again No More
kytrad	Deep Shady Grove	MP3	Deep Shady Grove
LEJ	EJ Songs	Tape	Rainbow
Llanfair	Songs from Ashdale	CD	Lovely Joan
Margmac	Them Stars	CD	TBD
Margmac	Ballads Thrice Twisted	CD	TBD
Martin Ryan	Untitled	MDR from CD	Henry Joy
Mary Humphreys	Through the Groves	CD	Turtledove
McGrath	Marmite and Other Stuff	CD	TBD
michaelr	Greenhouse	CD	The Blacksmith
Midchuck	Woodchuck's Revenge CD	CD	Fill One Room  Wrangling Dudes
MMArio	Untitled	Tape	Franklin-"A Drinking Song"
Mooh	Eight Hands Round	CD	"All the Day"
Morticia	Sally3.mp3	MP3	Sally3
Mudlark	Various	Tape	Wait 'Til The Clouds Roll By
Musicman	MP3s	MP3	The Dutchman  BlueEyed Mountain Maid
Norton1	BoonieRat.mp3	MP3	The Boonie Rat Song
PaulG	The Creek	MP3	The Creek
Peg	Demo CD	CD	Searching for Lambs
Radriano	Songs of the Wage Slave	Tape	Dobbin's Flowery Vale
Radriano	With the Friends I Love Best	CD	The Bright Shining Morning
Rick Fielding	This One's the Dreamer	CD	Sing With the Angels
Robin2	Ten Penny Bit	CD	Fiddler's Green  Star of County Down Reprise
Seamus	Let the Music Take you Home	CD	TBD
Seamus	Favorite Selections	CD	My Love is Like a Red Red Rose
Sorcha	Sorcha&Friends	Tape	TBD
Spartacus	MP3s	MP3	Michigan Water  Take a Whiff
Stephen L. Rich	Had That Happen to Me	CD	Had That Happen to Me
Steve-O	Untitled	Tape	Swannanoa Tunnel
treewind/Mary H	CD	CD	TurtleDove  Young Redin
Tweed	Tweed's Blues	CD	Stackolee  Red Rooster
UB Ed	Downloads	MP3	Galway City
Uncle DaveO	MP3s	MP3	BeansBacon and Gravy
WyoWoman	Mudcat Concert Tape	Tape	TBD

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Tweed
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 06:33 AM

Holy Moley Amos, what a collection! Will you ever be able to listen to folk music again after all this? Alan Lomax, wherever he is, must be smiling the big smile right about now. ;~)
Tweed

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: dwditty
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:13 AM

Hi Amos,

Man, you have been busy. I vote we all encourage Max to have a song on here. C'mon, Max.

dw

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:28 AM

As predicted I made one goof -- Amergin should also be on the list with his poems, one of which will be included. They are worth the listen.

Tweed -- 's not a problem, see -- the trick is listening to the singer more than the song.

:>)

Max -- if you records me a Staggolee it goes to the top of the list. C'mooon, man.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 10:05 PM

Well, so far, Amergin's poem got missed and Giac's tape apparently got eaten byt postal workers or stolen for higher use by aliens en route. I dunno.

Awaiting other comments if any.

Also waiting for Mick's thongs (thilly boy!) andf Max' remarks or conclusions on logistics.

You STILL have a window of time in which to sing, tape and send if you ACT NOOOWWW!!

Don't miss this chance to have your own singing heart transmitted around the Blue Planet!!

Git on boarrrrd!!

Luv y'aall.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:50 PM

Yaaaay! Giac's gonna re-tape the songs!

I guess we got damage control rolled out in good order on those little breaches.

Laaaaaast callllll!!!! train's a-leaving!!! Choooooooochooooooo!!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:11 AM

C'mon Max, we want you on it, too!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:24 AM

and where the heck is YOUR contribution, kat?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:31 AM

didn't make it, LeeJdarlin':-)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:38 AM

There's still time, y'know. Dust off the dulcimer and give forth!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Mudlark
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 01:02 AM

Whoa! I am so excited at the prospect of hearing you all!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 01:32 AM

I vote for a definite inclusion of Kevin McGrath's White Snow of the Springtime! It's a gorgeous song, sung by him or Aine.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Chris Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 01:36 AM

Amos,

Well done and thanks, this must have taken hours.

Chris

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: michaelr
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 01:38 AM

Wow, Amos -- that's about 80 songs right there... and you're asking for more?? ;-)

We're looking at 6 or 7 CDs right now (depending on length of songs). I do believe it is time to discuss possibly cutting it down to a more manageable size. Not just because of the work and cost involved in publishing all this material, but because after all...

This is supposed to benefit the Mudcat! (in case someone forgot) and it appears to me that a 2-or 3-CD set would find a lot more buyers than a 7-CD set.

Just a thought, Brother Amos. Let's hear others' ideas.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 02:38 AM

I hate it when pragmatism gets in the way of ideal Reality!! KOK

Maybe so, michael -- lemme see how it shakes out.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Llanfair
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 07:26 AM

God!! that is an impressive list, and I am proud to be a part of it.

I can't wait for the collection to be distributed.

I need to hear it all, lots of times.

Cheers, Bron.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: hesperis
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:51 AM

WOW! What a list!

Did I send you something else, Amos? Seal Woman or Life Lives On?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: alanabit
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:01 AM

Can I vote for Kevin McGrath's "Green Heart of Harlow", Larry's (InObu) "Yvette's Song" and the gorgeous "Eagle Eye" from Ten Penny Bit (Robin 2). Are the "preferred cuts" the preferences expressed by the selectors or by the artists?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:25 PM

Hesp: I don't think so, but I am not at my home machine.

alanabit: Votes duly noted. The preferences are either those expressed by the artist and endorsed by the editor, or those of the editor. We honor the artists whenever possible -- the only exception would be for considerations of legal clearance on songs used. Larry's Yvette's Song is already on the table. At Barbara's request, "Last Old Shovel" will probably hit the cutting room floor.

All opinions will be respectfully considered; beyond that, no promises, okay? I have my sanity to consider! :>)

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 08:47 PM

Hesp:

I have two other cuts of yours on my hard disk -- they are both beautiful -- one is called Unicorn Dream, and one Abundant Harvest. I thought Skylark, which is vocal, was by far the best suited for the 'CatSampler. It is extraordinary.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 09:43 PM

I was surprised by the songs Amos picked from my CD! I would have put Connecticut Waltz in the running (the only instrumental), but I completely defer to his judgment. I'm just glad to be included on the sampler, so it should reflect the taste of the producer. Thanks, Amos!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Paul G.
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:09 PM

Stepping out of the studio where I'm recording my next CD long enough to say "thank you" to Saint Amos. What a extraordinary effort! I am so honored to be among these talented and giving artists.

Best to all,

Paul

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Genie
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:37 PM

For the record, Amos, and all, I am not the "Genie" who is singing with IanB on "My Man." Sad to say, I've met Ian B. only via Mudcat (and a his "Caleb's Cool Yule Tape," for which I still owe a donation.)

I noticed there was a "Genie" who is some sort of significant other to another Mudcatter, who has been referred to in another thread or two, but she is not a Mudcat member under that specific name.

Maybe some of you other catters can clarify who it is named Genie who sings with Ian.

Jeanene (Genie)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:48 PM

Genie:

My aplogies -- I thought it hard to see how you two had collaborated, but in my weary frame of mind I let it slide -- I guess I just thought, in this day and age anything is possible!; now it seems impossible! The label said Mudcatter Genie and I hadn't realized there might be two!! So I took the one I knew. Wodda maroon!

Ya want I should put one of your fine choons from the PNWG on the list, then?

I jhave a fine MP3 of you doing Summer Wages with Rangeroger introducing it with a litany of his aches and pains, midconversation! **bg** I'd have to get two releases for that one!! Plus maybe some accident insurance!! LOL! But your Summertime is mighty fine!! :>) Or send me an MP3??

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:58 PM

Is "Margmac" supposed to be MaryMac? If not, who is Margmac?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:53 PM

Margaret MacArthur, who recently won a Lifetime Acheivement Award fromt he Vermont Arts Council.

Kytrad made it a condition of her contributing that I get agreements to contribute from Sandy, Art and Margaret. They were all thrilled.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 11:55 PM

And omigod I just noticed I left Sandy off the danged table!! He sent a CD with numerous beautiful cuts on it.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 12:12 AM

Ah, good for kytrad!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Genie
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 01:31 AM

Amos, if you want to use one of the songs I did at Jen's, that's fine, but if you want the best quality sound, I'd suggest either "Drive You Out Of My Mind," "Thirty-to-Fifty-Odd Seals," or "Harmony: One Out Of Many," from the tape I gave you at Jen's. All of those were recorded in a semi-professional studio.

There's also an MP3 of you and me doing the Irving Berlin duet "Play A Simple Melody/I Want To Listen To Rag" which you made at your house.

Or I could send you a tape of the current (shorter) version of my 9-11 song (Valley Of The Towering Shadows).

As my 15-year-old niece would say,
"Whatever..."

¤;- D

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 05:53 AM

Aha! Invocation - Life Lives On. (I thought I'd sent you a link to that one in PM. *Phew*)

Skylark is definitely the most folky, perfect choice. Thanks so much for all the work you're doing on this!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: UB Ed
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 06:47 PM

You know best Amos.

Ed

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Mooh
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 07:33 PM

Amos,

Someone pointed out to me that the traditional Welsh tune "Black Pig" is on the cd I sent you. It's real short (1:20), great filler, and features 2 mandolins (I'm the higher one) and accompaniment. If you're interested, use it.

Btw, thanks for all your efforts with this.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 08:05 PM

Mooh, is "Marjorie, go feed the black pig"? What a neat song! I love it. Ya'll know, don't you, that Amos only did this so he could get free stuff from all of us? (*VBG*)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 08:33 PM

Oh, hell -- these Mudcat women are so damn psychic it hurts!!

LOL!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 08:35 PM

Thanks, Mooh!! I'll give it a listen! Right now I am wrassling with re-assembling my stereo components in my home office so I can move songs through the equalizer to the MiniDisc recorder in order to get the digital file as clean as possible. Once I have handled that technical set up, I'll be able to run all the tape stuff ontot he hard disk fairly easily.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 08:57 PM

And, in English, that means................??

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 10:07 PM

I'm trying to figger out how to make them songs on tape get into this here confuzer without they sound like wet snakes!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Aug 02 - 10:41 PM

Ah so. I am trying to figger out how to use my CD burner; it appears I have a "hardware failure" and must save all "non-reinstallable" programs so that I can re-install something. All this in order to get warranteed new hardware for my CD burner..........if I get a CD burner working, I will send you a CD........haven't yet figgered out how to make the mp3 thingies.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 01:14 AM

Amos, I'm a little disappointed you aren't using my arrangement of Anarchy in the U.K. for bombarde' and noseflute, but I guess its up to you. Keep up the good work, Bubba.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 09:52 AM

I was gonna use it, LEJ -- I mean, I just love it, personally, but..well, the lyrics are hard to understand, with the lead singer playing noseflute and all. And once I got them figured out, I thought they were a little bit, how do you say, over the top? So I'm using your equally incredible version of "Barney's Song" instead if you don't mind....

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 10:00 AM

Is that the Barney's song as arranged for flatulence and zither? or the version with glockenspiel and kazoo?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 10:06 AM

Amos----I trust you will solve the problem getting stuff from tapes.

Art

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 10:20 AM

Art:

Sure thing! I can get it over ok -- I am just working out how to do it with the minimum of hiss. It's easier to run the analog signal through an equalizer I borrowed fromt he family stereo, rather than running the digital file through filters on the computer. In any event they'll sound beter than Cisco Houston.

Not to to worry!!

Love y'all,

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 06:01 PM

And we you, sir.

Art

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 02:14 PM

Thanks, Art! Made my day, you did!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 02:35 PM

Why not have 2 (or 3?) different sets of 3ish cd's each? I know I'll definitely kick out for all, but if some would rather not spend as much at one time, a choice of one or another of many would make that possible.

Amos? I think I would have to ask that my band get credit on the cover. If it's my handle alone, it doesn't really give credit where credit is due. I am only one of 6, after all.

I cannot *wait* to hear this thing (these things???). That is one impressive list of artists *and* songs.

So, Amos m'friend! What's the ETA????

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 04:01 PM

CS:

Roger that -- Band it shall be.

ETA? Sigh...it depends on several things. I am waiting to hear from Max, but he was supposed to be discussing lofgistics with Dick, and Dick is on travel at present. On the technical side I am going through the tapes now, getting the selections on to Minisdisk and thence to computer, but it's a bit of a slow process, and I am juggling a significant number of 3D deadlines and honeydews on top.

I would say a couple of months. I will sit down and do a scheduel review and see if I can move that forward some. In our original plan we were aiming for release in early September. That's out of range now. Partly because I had to shift a lot of that time over to work overtime.

So now we are probably looking at Thanksgiving for all the loose ends to be rounded up, logistics, normalizing the files, final build for at least Disk One or Set One, and working out the distirbution channel. I hope this isn't too disappointing to anyone, but I am trying to be realistic in a universde dedicated to Foobaring in multiple dimensions simultaneously.

Very best,

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 06:19 PM

Folks, I owe Willie-O an apology -- I have several of his beautiful MP3s downloaded for the CDs, and missed it when compiling the table. His "Spring on the Mississippi" will surely be there, although I am torn by "Anna Grace" as well. Both first-class stuff!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 03:41 AM

I was a bit surprised to see "Firelight" as a preferred track. I've no complaints, I love doing it, but I have always thought that it was an average song redeemed by Markus's brilliant arrangement. It's just that it's the only personal song on the album - and very much the sort of thing which frequently gets a hammering from Mudcatters who (often for very good reasons) distrust singer/songwriters. You have heard a lot of other artists though, so you have a clearer picture of what sort of texture the album will eventually have. Only a few songs can make it to final selection anyway - and it's a privelege to take part. From what I have heard of other 'Catters so far, I want a copy anyway!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: GUEST,IanB, cookieless
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 03:49 AM

So, who was the mystery singer, if it wasn't Genie?

It was, of course, Jeannie!!!!

- Ian B

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Jeanie
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 04:21 AM

Yes, lest there be no doubt, the mystery genie is me !

- jeanie

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 10:27 AM

Hiya, Jeanie! Nice job on that disk -- apologies for the confusion!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Genie
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 09:37 PM

Glad we got that cleared up! Can't wait to hear it, Ian and Jeannie!

Genie

PS,
MMario, "...the Barney's song as arranged for flatulence and zither..." ? I gotta hear that one! LOL

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: harpgirl
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 09:43 PM

..is it too late to send a tape, Amos? Wehre do I send it?

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Bobert
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 10:21 PM

Just want to go on record of saying "Thanks, Amos, fir all the work you've put in this project" So.... ahhh... thanks, Amos, fir all the work you've put in this project.

Looking forward to hearing all these folks...

Bobert

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: khandu
Date: 04 Aug 02 - 10:35 PM

alanabit,

"Firelight" is an excellent piece of work, and excellently done! I am not at all surprised at Big A's choice to use it. It shows that Amos has taste!

khandu

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 02:27 AM

Harpgirl:

PMing you the address.

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Cappuccino
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 02:05 PM

Khandu, I think the only problem Amos had with Alanabit's CD is picking one track - they're all super. Anyone out there who hasn't got one - get it!

And, I might add, Jeannie has still got mine and hasn't returned it...

- IanB

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 10:03 PM

Hey!! Susan of California just sent in a lovely CD she and her husband put together called "Would You?".

All righty, then, you strays and dogies -- hustle on down, and run 'em up the chute!! Yeeeeeeee haw!

Before ya know it, Mick's spud will collapse, and the gates will swing to and the train pull out and ya wouldn't wanna not be on it, now wouldja?? Hmmm?   Hmm?

Just as I thought!!! :>))

Best regards,


A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 10:39 PM

Hey Amos...that time frame is awesome, frankly!! I was really expecting to see "Spring" or the like. And in any case, if it were a year from now, that's great. You're doing a hell of a lot of work, and no one can begrudge your need to take care of home and hearth as well.

Thanks for all the hard work and effort.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 10:39 PM

Hey Amos...that time frame is awesome, frankly!! I was really expecting to see "Spring" or the like. And in any case, if it were a year from now, that's great. You're doing a hell of a lot of work, and no one can begrudge your need to take care of home and hearth as well.

Thanks for all the hard work and effort.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 02 - 10:43 PM

Wow!! Double double acknowledgements, from a top drawer chanty-singing sweety at that!! Shiver me timbers, Pyrate Lass! :>))

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Chip2447
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 12:22 AM

Good work Amos, Thus far anyhoos, and thanks for giving this the ole college try. Where do I sign up to contribute to Volume TWO...

Chip2447(thinking that The Mudcat isnt quite ready for his Ocarina arrangements)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 12:42 AM

Hell, Chip, send that Ocarina Octet for four hands along anyway -- we'll squeeze it in right next to LEJ's 35-minute arrangement of "Little Known Moody Blues Foxtrots" and make an early-bird bonus out of it, whattya say??

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 12:55 AM

That means Cleigh could participate!!! Blow it out your ass, Cleigh!! Whooooppppeeee!!!!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Genie
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 01:02 AM

Amos, you are indefatigable! (Comes from still being such a young pup, I guess.)

¤;- D

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 01:27 AM

OPINIONS SOLICITED

One option which is available is to put the entire collection on a disk in MP3 format. This means they could only be played on a device such as a computer which could handle playing MP3s, but that an ordinary audio CD player would not be able to play the songs. The tradeoff is you woud get the whole collection on a single disk. two at most.

Alternative is to create audio CDs which any CD player can play (including most computer CD-play applications). These are limited to about 20 songs or 70 minutes to a disk. We have somewhere between 60 and 90 tracks to offer, so you can see from the math that quite a few disks are involved.

If we continue with the plan for audio CDs, there is no reason we cannot offer the MP3 Disk as an alternative.

In that case I would design the first 2 audio CDs as a set, choosing the best representative cross section and get it into distribution, followed by the second 2-CD Set later on. If we go over 80, a third round might be needed.

Your opinion is invited as to which you, personally, would find the most appealing for your own enjoyment: a large number of MP3 files on one disk. or an audio CD set.

Speak now while the options are open!!

Very best regards,

Amos

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: GUEST,karen k
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 01:51 AM

I opt for the audio set. Have no way to play MP3's. I hope you'll choose "When the Rain Comes A-Tumbling Down" for my selection. Will there be accompanying notes on the songs. This song definitely needs an explanation and a little more than what I sent you with teh tape. Thanks for all you are doing. I can't wait.

k

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Callie
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 03:13 AM

Hi Amos

First - a big thank you for all your effort, and just want to let you know that we're all squealing with excitement at this end to be included.

Second - regarding format: most folkies I know tend to favour cds to downloading from the net. I know this throws up issues of "too many songs" (never thought I'd use those words!). Is there any reason both couldn't be made available?

thanks again

Callie

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: alanabit
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 03:27 AM

I would like to see an audio CD. As I suggested in my PM a few days ago, there may well be other 'Catters who are willing to send money up front to order copies. That is one possible way of paying for the first pressing - which would be higher quality. The other thing is that if some sort of cultural exchange does come off, (something that has been mooted on other threads) the CD will be a good way of presenting ourselves to potential backers.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: MMario
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 08:46 AM

The data set (mp3's) is relatively easy to do - so go with the audio set and when possible offer the MP3 CD as an alternative.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 08:57 AM

My preference would be to have one audio CD set which would be representative of the Mudcat, and also have all the mp3's available on the Mudcat on-line. That way, people can download the mp3's on their own and convert them to audio if they wish to burn their own CDs, or can just listen to a track if they see a post from someone they'd like to hear.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 11:22 AM

I'd vote for the audio. I listen to CDs as I drive, a lot.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Dharmabum
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 11:57 AM

I vote for the CD's,but I'm OK with whatever the final decision is.

DB.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Willa
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 12:56 PM

I'd prefer CD's, please, Amos

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 01:11 PM

Audio CD's will have one big advantage that MP3's may not. An audio CD will make it easier to get all of that wonderful music into the hands of the general public.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Cappuccino
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 02:46 PM

CD first, please.

- Ian B

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 03:55 PM

Barbara's idea is good if it can be done. Release a CD, but also have a link to an MP3 page, like the photo page.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 04:01 PM

Looks like we are in favor of audio CDs as a first line of product.

As regards MP3s, making one disk of all MP3s available would also add to the Mudcat coffers, which is why we're doing all dis, ya??

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amergin
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 06:33 PM

yeah I prefer the audio cds....but i think it would be a good idea to do the mp3s as an alternative to those who want it....

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 07:16 PM

Well, one of the reasons for doing this is to get to hear each other. The audio CDs could be sold to mudcats as well as the general public, thus helping the mudcat financially. MP3s would not be as commercially interesting, so they could be made available online to members only! (Yahoo groups have options available only to members, such as photos, databases, etc.)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 07:57 PM

I don't really care about the format but I thought part of the point was for Mudcat to make some $$$. If you do MP3 that won't happen. I personally can't afford to buy more than 2 at a time but I would eventually buy them all. MP would be nice because I would listen at my computer, but the speakers are not loud enough to hear anywhere more than 4 feet from the computer and I can't as yet burn CD's. Burning your own seems like ripping off Max anyway. He has provided this forum and opportunity; seems only fair he should get something back.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Tweed
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 08:33 PM

I vote for CD's too, Amos. As for storing mp3's on Mudcat, I believe Max would need a couple more servers to hold them all. These things take up enormous amounts of space. Can't see 'em but they sure do suck it up quick.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 08:43 PM

What I was proposing was to offer an alternative shippable CD containing MP3s for those who want them. Not downloadable freebies, which as has been said kinda defeats the fundraising aspect of the effort.

Okay!! You shall have your wish for audio CDs!!

But no wand-waving will be used. Just a little more time and sweat. OK?

LOL!!

OK!! Close to 100 posts, so let's put all the rest of the dialogue over on Section VIII: Azure Morning Tunes.

See ya there!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Genie
Date: 07 Aug 02 - 02:35 AM

I'm afraid you've lost me in the techno-jargon, since I am a (relative) cyber-newbie. I can play MP3s via several porgrams, especially RealPlayer, but I'd really like to have CD's to play when I don't wanna bother lugging my laptop around.

I can scrape together some SS to buy 2 or 3 Mudcat CDs, especially if it'll help Max keep the kat in catnip.

Genie

PS, Amos, I nominate you for sainthood for this project!

(Oh, wait...you're not Catholic...)

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: MMario
Date: 07 Aug 02 - 09:15 AM

pssst! Genie - other denominations have Saints as well - and some other religions have the equivilant. so you can still nominate him.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD VII: Silver Songs At Daybreak!
From: Amos
Date: 07 Aug 02 - 09:35 AM

Hey guys!!! I'm not sure I'd want to be an icon in any panoply of Saints which would have me as a member -- except maybe that New Orleans ball club! :>)

Now be good and put the rest of the traffic over on Section VIII: Azure Morning Tunes, okay?

Thanks for the sanctification, anyway -- I'll figger out some way to put it to good use!! LOL!

A