Lyr Req: Spider's Web (Girl Scout song)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Spider's Web (Girl Scout song)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 02:33 PM

There's a web like a Spider's web
Made of silk and lighter fibers
Spun by the moon in my room at night.
It's a web made to catch a dream.
Hold it close to lie awake and
as if to tell me that dreamin's alright.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Spider's Web (Girl Scout song)
From: GUEST,A 12 YEAR OLD
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 03:34 AM

I THOUGHT IT WAS TAKE A SILVER THREAD FROM A SPIDERS WEB AND SPIN SPIN SPIN GOLDEN WINGS TO SOAR AND FLY APONE THE WIND HIGH ABOVE THE TREES AND ACCROSS THE SEAS AND THROUGH THE SKY TO THE RAINBOWS BEND WERE STORYS NEVER END AND DREAMS NEVER DIE

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: Monique
Date: 20 Mar 10 - 03:25 AM

Spider web Video

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,Mr Moon
Date: 19 Mar 10 - 10:34 PM

Mr Moon, Mr Moon, you're out too soon,
The sun is still in the sky.
Go back to your bed and cover up your head,
And wait til the day goes by.

In my council (River Bend, at that time) we always paired that song with one we called "From Out the Battered Elm Tree," and half the group would sing Mr. Moon while the other sang this:

From out the battered elm tree the owl's cry we hear;
And from the distant forest the cuckoo answers clear:
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo - oo - oo - oo - oo
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo - ooo ooo ooo ooo.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST,Robin
Date: 09 Mar 10 - 10:47 AM

There's a web like a spiders web,
made of silver, light, and shadow,
hung by the moon, in my room at night.
Its a web made to catch a dream,
hold it tight till I awaken,
as it to tell me
my dreamings alright.

This is how I remember the song.
Robin Briggs

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 11:57 AM

This is a song written by Theron Kirk. It goes...
From Lucerne to Weggis Fair (pronounced Veggis)
Hol di-ri-dia hol-di-ri-a

Shoes and stockings we need not wear
Hol di-ri-dia hol-dia

Hol-di-ri-dia,
Hol-di-ri-dia, Hol-di-ri-dia, hol-di-ria

Hol-di-ri-dia, hol-di-ri-dia, hol-dia.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 12 Jan 10 - 06:22 PM

i am looking for the words to mr moon i know it went like this

mr moon mr mon your ou to soon go back to your bed and cover up your head

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 10:27 AM

I'm 81. When I was in summer camp, we sang a hiking song that started "From Lucerne to Vegas on/ Oh deary dee ah, o dee a/ Shoes nor stockings need we don/ Oh deery dee ah, o dee a. I never could find the entire song.

Helen Smith

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: jeffp
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 02:55 PM

I'll have to check the book that they made to go with it. I recognized some from my own youth, like Tom Glaser's On Top of Spaghetti and Gee Ma, I Want to Go Home (a Girl Scout Camp version). Others were completely new to me. It was quite an experience. I'll post it in a day or two. There were 23 songs, all told.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: Tinker
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 02:50 PM

Jeffp, any chance we could get a list of the songs they chose to record ? It would be great to compare with songs that folks are coming in and remembering from the past.

tinker

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: jeffp
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 02:40 PM

The question was asked last year whether Girl Scouts still sing. I recently married a woman who has a daughter in Girl Scouts. Her troop was working on their Silver Award and planning to go around to the younger troops and give concerts of Girl Scout songs to pass it along. My stepdaughter realized that I have a computerized recording setup and got the idea to make CDs for all the troops. That way they would have a permanent copy to refer to.

So, we set up a recording session. Imagine working with a dozen 15-year-olds. What a blast! A couple of natural leaders presented themselves and they all worked together. I was really pleased to see them in action and grateful for the opportunity to be part of it.

In my small area of Maryland, the music is alive and well.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 11:47 AM

I can remember singing the Birthright as a member of a school choir in the mid 70s. Can anyone direct me to the music for it?

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST,sabrina
Date: 03 Jun 08 - 02:58 PM

I can remember singing the "Spider's Wed" when I was a Girl Scout. It was back in the early 1970s at a resident camp called Camp Hilaka, someplace in Summit County, Ohio. I can remember one of the counselors telling us girls that the song Spider's Web" had its origins from from the heyday of the California missions.

I had learn these lyrics:

There's a web like a spider's web
made of silk and light and shadow
spun by the moon in my room at night
it's a web made to catch a dream
hold it tight till i awaken
as if to tell me, my dream is all right

down in the valley
there is a mission
by the old oak tree
down by mission
there is a fountain
where my love told me (chorus)

Subject: ADD Version: Birthright
From: GUEST,Julie Mingo
Date: 11 Apr 08 - 10:46 PM

I'm thrilled to find this site in general and in particular the words I was missing to "Birthright"! But of the words I did remember, neither version here is exactly as I learned it:

Birthright

We who were born in country places,
Far from the city and shifting faces,
We have a birthright no man can sell,
And a secret joy no man can tell.

For we are kindred to lordly things,
Wild duck's flight and the white owl's wings
Two, pike and salmon, three, bull and horse,
Curlew's cry and the smell of gorse.

Bridle traces, swiftness of streams,
Magic of frost has shaped our dreams,
No baser vision the spirit thrills,
Than to walk by night on the naked hills.

We sang it as a round at GS Camp Narrin in Ortonville, Michigan in the 1960's. The area around the camp was farmland then, but suburbia had encroached by the time I was a GS leader in the 1990's.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: Melissa
Date: 28 Jan 08 - 09:47 PM

My girls sing, Guest.
It doesn't seem to be as Standard as it used to be, but there are still some singing scouts running around..

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 08 - 09:42 PM

Just wondering, do kids still sing songs in Girl Scouts and Cub scouts?   I know my granddaughters troops never did.   I think it just isn't considerer 'cool' to sing anymore. Sad.   I loved to sing when I was a kid.

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 08 - 05:02 PM

It's a web like a spiders web built with silver light and shadow
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream hold it fast til I awaken
As if to tell my dream is of you

Subject: RE: Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?-Spider's Web
From: GUEST,Shaima
Date: 08 Dec 07 - 07:56 AM

Please

I want a link of spider's web song

my brother's wife from America she sang this song and I loved it

please if anyone has the link give it to me

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: open mike
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 06:54 PM

this thraed--camp (s)ongs has some info
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=79322&messages=6

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 05:16 PM

The last line of every non-chorus verse is stressed too.

Subject: ADD Version: Spider's Web
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 05:15 PM

This is my version. When I sing it, the ending of the third line in every non-chorus verse is stressed and the fourth is pronounced quicker.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Spider's Web

Down in the valley,
There's a mission
By the old oak tree
By the mission,
There's a fountain
Where my love told me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silk and light and shadow
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight 'til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

On the evening
I was leaving
My love dreamt of me
I was sleeping,
She was weeping
So she said to me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight 'til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

I met a stranger,
His name was Danger
We rode side by side
Down in Santa Fe,
I killed a man they say
Danger told me, "Ride!"

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight 'til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

And now if I return,
They will hang me
From the old oak tree
By the mission,
Near by the fountain
Where my love told me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silk and light and shadow
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch your dreams
Hold it tight 'til I awaken
As if to tell me that my dreamin's all right

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 05:07 PM

In Spiders Web, its 'dreamt' not 'dreamed'. Also, its not silver, its silk. At least in my version.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:16 PM

As noted in thread 1143 and others, "Rose, Rose" has not been found in any of the older rhyme books. Rose, Rose
Speculation as to origin remains just that. All verses beyond the first seem to be add-ons or floaters.

Eight threads on Rose, plus scouting and other threads on children's songs.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,Iyoki
Date: 05 May 04 - 04:52 PM

Regarding the Rose song,
I have a song book with the latest date of 1947 in it, that has Rose:

Rose, rose, rose, rose, shall I ever see thee red?
Aye, marry, that thou wilt, If thou but stay.

It is true, that Elizabeth of York who was of the white rose (House of York's), and Henry VII (father of Henry VIII), of the red rose (House of Lancaster).

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 May 04 - 03:53 PM

This might be a place for a link that I found in the bottom of a pile "to look at later."

Pack 86

These are Cub Scout songs rather than Girl Scout, but of course these days things are much more coed than when I was a kid.

A second link that I recorded in the same document, at More Cub Scouting Songs, did not come up when I tried it just now. It may be gone or just down temporarily.

The first site says it will print "over 100 pages" if you just hit the print button. I copied and pasted into a .doc, since I really did plan to go back through them in more detail. Content from the two sites, as I saved them, is about 103 pages of lyrics in my Word file.

May rather vague recollection is that the two sites were linked when I found them, so they may have merged both of them into the one "page."

John

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Susan of DT
Date: 05 May 04 - 12:39 PM

Dip dip and swing will be in the next version of the DT

I've heard Rose rose with both wed and red

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:07 AM

That's a beautiful song about the spider's web. But I don't remember singing it in Girl Scouts. My favorite song was Dip Dip and Swing. Is that really a Native American song?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Jen M
Date: 04 May 04 - 06:07 PM

A few years late but the lyrics to Birthright are-
We who are born in country places,
Far from the cities shifting faces.
We have a birthright no man can sell,
And a secret joy no man can tell.

For we are kindred to lordly thing,
The wild duck's flight and the white owl's wings
Pike and salmon bull and horse,
The curlew's cry and the smell of gorse.

Pride of tree and swiftness of stream,
The magic of frost has shaped our dream,
No baser vision our spirit's fill,
Than to walk by right on the naked hill.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 May 04 - 07:20 PM

i thought it was

rose rose rose rose
when will i see thee waken
i will marry at thy will
at thy will

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: open mike
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 12:35 PM

i thought the rose song went
"will I ever see thee WED"

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 11:54 AM

going back a couple of postings, I have "Weggis" on a musical box brought back by my late Aunt and Uncle,from Switzerland almost 50 years ago.......I thought I was the only person to know this song until Mr Wogan on Radio 2 started to play a version of it about 15 years ago, complete with cow bells

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,Iyoki
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 11:48 AM

I learned and actually turned around and taught this song at a Camp Fire Camp. I was a Campfire girl for 12 years, and a counselor for at least 12 years all at Campfire camp. I suspect, this is just one of those songs that get passed around and around from camp to camp. I personally would just like to know where it came from.

One of my favorites, which I'm sure you heard also, was:

Rose, rose, rose rose,
Will I ever see thee red
I will marry at thy will sire
At thy will.

I was taught that this came from the time of the War of the Roses in England and that the woman was of the White rose, and she loved a man of the Red rose. Interestingly Henry the VI and his wife were of the two different colors, and their marriage ended this war. Also interestingly, it is all natural minor, which would fit the time period, and Henry VIII (Henry the VI's son), is reported to have written Greensleeves. My dream would be to put together a book that goes into the histories of some of these camp songs of which I have now, mostly just in my head.

---Iyoki from the Freckled forests of Oregon.

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 09:53 PM

Thanks. That sounds like it. (I've joined, so now I'm rabbitrunning.)

C Dye

Subject: ADD: Weggis Song
From: GUEST,Judy Cook
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 09:51 PM

Guest CDYE,

The "shoes & stockings" one you want might be this one, from Switzerland, as I learned it from my Mom (long-time Girl Scout).

Weggis Song

From Lucerne to Weggis on
Hol di ri dia, Hol di ria
Shoes and stockings we have none
Hol di ri dia, Hol dia
Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-ria
Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-dia

Weggis starts the highest hill
Hol di ri dia, Hol di ria
Boys & girls climb with a will
Hol di ri dia, Hol dia
Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-ria
Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-di-re-dia, Hol-dia


My aunt's old hand written & typed songbook has "Shoes nor stockings need we don" as the second line. I'm sure it could also have been translated as you remember it. Aunt Martha's book also has this for the second verse: "On the lake we all shall go / See the pretty fish below" but I always liked keeping it with just the mountain climbing verses.

Judy Cook [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,C Dye
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 07:45 PM

Can anyone help me with yet another GS song? I can't quite remember it all, but I think it goes(except for the la la's..):

BIRTHRIGHT

We who are born in country places
Far from the city and shifting faces
We have a birthright no man can sell
And a secret joy no man can tell.

For we are kindred to lordly things
The wild ducks flight and la la la
Pike and salmon, bull and horse
The curlew's cry and the smell of gorse.

Pride of la, swiftness of stream
The magic of frost has shaped our dreams
No baser vision the spirit fill
Than to walk by right on the naked hill.

I checked the database, but didn't find anything.

---

See Birthright thread

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,C Dye
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:58 AM

Heh heh,

Speaking of pretty songs, I am reminded of "Barges", but speaking of songs we sang wwaaayyy too often, try this:

Out of my tent flap looking in the night
I can see the boy scouts' flickering light
Silently go the boy scouts to the shore
And the girl scouts meet them at the door

Boy Scout, I would like to go with you
I would like to ride in your canoe
Boy Scouts, over mountains you may roam
In a pup tent always you're at home.

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Shanti
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:22 AM

How about Make New Friends...

Make new friends but keep the old. One is silver and the other gold.

It's a short song, but we always sang it as a round...could go on forver that way.

We also sang The Happy Wanderer WAY too much.

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,C Dye
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 08:44 AM

Does anyone know another GS song that has a line about "shoes and stockings we frown upon"? I think it had yodelling in it too.

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 12:23 AM

I also was a Girl Sprout and never heard that one. Hmmmphf.

thanks for bringing it to our attention. And thanks, Mr. Offer, for your diligence.

WW

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 09:03 PM

Is that Kadiddles thing linked from our Kids section??

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: GUEST,C Dye
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 07:56 PM

I learned the song a little differently in that it was "Down in the valley There is a fountain by an old oak tree. Near the fountain, there is a mission, where my love told me..."

Jim Speirs of Canada has a lot of scouting songs on his website, btw.

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Kathleen
Date: 29 Oct 98 - 02:44 PM

there is a sorority at my school who has a song with a very similar chorus, only it's a kite, not a spider's web. just found that kind of amusing.

i was in girl scouts for eleven years and thought i knew most of the common songs (i've been putting together all the lyrics i know for over seventy songs for my sister) thanks for a new one!

kathleen

Subject: Lyr Add: SPIDER'S WEB
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Oct 98 - 03:28 AM

^^SPIDER'S WEB
author unknown

Down in the valley,
There is a mission
Down by the old oak tree
Down by the mission,
There is a fountain
Where my love told me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight 'til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

On the evening
I was leaving
My love dreamed of me
I was sleeping,
She was weeping
When she said to me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight ‘til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

I met a stranger,
His name was Danger
We rode side by side
Way down in Santa Fe,
I killed a man they say
Danger told me, "Ride!"

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight ‘til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

And now if I return,
They will hang me
High from the old oak tree
Down by the mission,
Down by the fountain
Where my love told me:

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver light and shadows
Spun by the moon in my room at night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight ‘til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right

I gave up on my kid sister and relied on my own resources - Kididdles
-Joe offer-

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Oct 98 - 03:09 AM

Well, I e-mailed my kid sister, who claims to be an expert on Girl Scout songs, and this was her reply:

Dear Joe,
I'll have to think about your recent request. I know that chorus and love it, but have always hated the verses - they're very sinister, black, macabre, something feeling. It's as if the singer wants to talk about having bad dreams, I guess. I've always made a point of not learning the verses, although I remember something about "...a stranger, his name was danger..." and "they took my life one day..." If I looked, I might be able to find them somewhere, but I don't want to, at least not now.
The chorus used to be sung at the beginning (and maybe the end too) of a public radio children's story show, before and when my kids were little. It has a lovely tune, and I've sung it to my family a great number of times.

I guess her older brother will have to bug her a bit more for the lyrics, but I thought her commentary might be of interest. I guess I do remember her singing it. I sang mostly beer commercial jingles at the time...
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From: Susan of DT
Date: 28 Oct 98 - 08:16 PM

We did not sing that in my troop. A hint when looking for girl scout songs: the filename begins with gs, so a search for gs* yields 11 songs, 6 of which are scouts. There are others I learned in scouts, but those are specifically girl scout songs. Also a search for scouts gets 25 hits (boy, girl, and military)

Subject: Help! a Girl Scout folk song?
From:
Date: 28 Oct 98 - 01:02 AM

I remember hearing this song while sitting around the campfire in Girl Scouts....I really liked it....but I can't remember the name or all the words....please help!

This is what I can remember (as best I can remember):

There's a web like a spider's web
Made of silver, light and shadow
Spun by the moon in my room last night
It's a web made to catch a dream
Hold it tight til I awaken
As if to tell me my dream is all right