another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream

Subject: another girl scout tune
From: sheba
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 11:13 PM

A friend of mine tried to start a song from her girl scout days and couldn't pull it out of her hat. She is a mom (age 38) with three little children and loosing her long term memory! I think this tune will revive her. The only thing she could remember was a very luring reference to a cabin along a stream... Any help from other 38 year old girl sc

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:25 AM

Could it be this one? Please let me know and I'll hunt up the rest of the words:

I Know a Place"

I know a place where no one ever goes
There's peace and quiet, beauty, and repose
It's hidden in a valley beside a mountain stream
And lying there beside that stream I find that I can dream
Only of things of beauty to the eye
Snow peaked mountains tow'ring in the sky
Now I know that God has made this world for me

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:25 AM

Well, I'm a 42 year old former girl scout, so let me put my brain to it.

There's one that goes

LITTLE GREEN VALLEY
I saw a little green valley
with a carpet of corn for a floor
and I heard a voice within me whisper
This is worth living for.

I saw a little log cabin
With a river that runs by its door
And I heard a voice within me whisper
This is worth living for.

Didn't I build that cabin?
Didn't I plant that corn?
Didn't my fathers before me?
Fight for this country before I was born

I gathered my loved ones around me
And I gazed at each face I adored
And I heard a voice within me thunder
This is worth living for.


There's also "Fire by the stream," also known as the Region 8 song. But cabin by a stream has me a little stuck. Can she remember anything else about it?

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:34 AM

Here's the rest of "I know a place".

One can imagine
himself as in a dream.
Climbing a mountain
Or down a small ravine.
The magic of this peace and quiet evermore shall stay
To make this place a haven, each and every day.
Oh how I wish I'd never have to leave,
And all my life, such beauty to receive.
Now I know that God has made this place for me.


At Flying G Ranch in Colorado, there was supposed to be a place where you could look out and see Pike's Peak, which, according to camplore, was the inspiration for the song.

CD

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:49 AM

CD/rabbitrunning! Welcome to the Mudcat! My sister used to be a counselor over near Colorado Springs, oh shoot can't remember the name of it, but she sang I Know A Place in HearMe not too long ago, which is the virtual song circles we have here at the Mudcat.

My mom had four girls, all girl scouts. I was the youngest and the funny thing about that song is that up until a year ago, my little child memory thought my sister had written it after she was so inspired by a special place she'd found at GS camp in Colorado where we grew up! That's what I thought I heard when I was little and we just never talked about it much, until last year when one of us happened to mention it.

If you have any qestions or need any help, please holler. You, too, Sheba.

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: KT
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 03:20 AM

Funny, how those girl scout songs stick.....I could "hear" the phrase "beside a mountain stream..." as soon as I read the words. Took me a few minutes to bring up the rest, and lo and behold, y'all had beat me to it!! Thanks for the stroll down memory lane....

Remember..."There are suitors at my door...."

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 08:48 AM

I _loved_ "Suitors". And "Father Father Goodbye", too.

One of the reason I signed up is because I have all these fading dittosheets and handwritten notes of Girl Scout songs and I'm going to inundate you poor defenseless people with them.

And Kat, I, too, am the youngest girl of four girls (with a tagalong boy behind me) and we were all scouts. My mother used to threaten us with Frank Sinatra on the radio, so we sang a lot on car trips. And they almost never let _me_ sing the descants! *outraged look* Mitch Miller didn't mind!

;D

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: KT
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 12:47 PM

No descants? I can relate, rabbitrunner. Three out of the five of us used to sing a lot and I, as the youngest ALWAYS got stuck singing the HORN verse of the "Orchestra Song!" I haven't let them forget about that either!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 07:26 PM

(fortunately, "The Orchestra Song" was the subject of another thread, so I don't have to ask the dumb question after all...)

I always thought that the best thing about camp was singing songs that made harmony. Like "Swing Low Sweet Chariot". It just never sounded the same with only four of us to sing it. And we could only do four parts instead of eight for "Warsaw the Forty Second". But I still remember all those car trips with great fondness. Better than my sisters do, I think!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: sheba
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 11:38 PM

The tune my neighbor was looking for was "The Little Green Valley." Thanks! It was so neat to bring the lyrics to this friend and also have her daughter learn the song (who has just returned from her first girl scout camp). Then...when my neighbor read the name of rabbitrunning, she almost fell off of her chair. She had learned "The Little Green Valley" from a counselor named Rabbit from Rockhill (I think I have that right). Is it a small world or a coincidence.

Now who has or is making field recordings of these great girl scouts of the past and present. My neighbor friends entertained me for a good while with tunes and stories. Did Alan Lomax forget the girl scouts?

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 11:44 PM

Good question! Hey, I remember the name of the camp my sister was counselor at in Colorado, it was Sky High and she was known as "Cinders." Any of you ever go there?

Were any of you in Job's Daughter's, too?

This is really fun!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 08:27 AM

No, I was at Flying G Ranch, which is Mile Hi Council, and I think that Sky High is the Colorado Springs Council. Not that Flying G wasn't fairly close to Pikes Peak, mind you.

I worked as "packout" (general kitchen aid and lord high admiral of all the pantries) one year, but my nickname was "Scratch".

I wish someone _did_ make a recording of all the girl scout stuff. Some of our versions were downright purty.

What's Job's Daughters? I went to church camp, but it was co-ed.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: KT
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:22 PM

I went to camp Sky High too, but it was in New York State. Ha ha ha ha !! Reminds me of a friend who went camping with her girl scout troop once and only once! And it was in a hotel!! In Chicago!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: Marymac90
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 03:51 PM

I went to scout camp in NY state, too, but it was Camp Hoover, in Tully. The scouts knew from the first campfire that I was musically "challenged", and they'd make me "sing" the part that went "boom-da boom-da boom-da boom-da.........." while they sang "sarasponda sarasponda sarasponda ret-set-set.." What a downer! Though it was better than music teachers who would have me sing softly, or mouth the words!!! I think my favorite was "The Ashgrove".

I was wondering if the song about the cabin was
Little cabin in the wood,
Little deer by the window stood,
Saw a rabbit hopping by,
Knocking at my door
"Help me, Help me, Help!" he cried
"Or the hunter shoot me dead!"
Little rabbit, come inside
Safely here abide
This was all done to a complex pantomime, and then repeated about 8 times, each time omitting one more verse from the singing-just doing the hand motions for it.

Marymac

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: KT
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 05:08 PM

I think there must be a special place in the beyond for music teachers who told kids to mouth the words!!!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: Bert
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 05:14 PM

I know this is thread creep but all this talk of Pike's peak is getting to me.

I wrote this song about a little cabin I built up in the mountains behind Pike's Peak.

Bert.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 07:24 PM

I learned it "little man by the window stood" instead of deer. Not sure what the hand motion would be for a deer...

Ah, the pikes peak cam... makes me homesick.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 08:36 PM

If any of y'all are interested, I'm trying to input any songs I find in my hodgepodge of a collection that aren't in the database or forum over here and so far at least, its mostly girl scout songs.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: bet
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 09:42 PM

Boy, I'm sorry I'm so late getting to this thread. There is a tape/CD or of some of the GS songs. i haven't seen it, just know there is one. I wonder if the 'good songs' are on it? I'll see if I can get more info tomorrow. It sounds like I know older songs than most of you, but I think they are the same. I'm push the dirt up, almost. It was itnterting to read the Flying G is taking credit for I Know a Place. When I worked at Sky High we were told that it was written there. I don't remember who wrote it and I guesss it really doesn't matter it's a great song. Gee Kat, you thought I wrote it? Hey we had a cousin theat worked a Flying G i don't know her came name put Mary Louise worked there one summer. I spent many..6-7-8 years working atvarious jobs a Sky Hi or Sacajawea in Wyo. I counceled, was a unit leader many times,had the CIT unit and was assistant camp director (hated that one). We loved the food people! Thanks for keeping the tummies full. bet

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 10:49 PM

I don't know if Flying G was "officially" taking credit for it. I just know that there was a place (walking up to Prospector I think) where you could see Pikes' and one time when I was walking there with a bunch of campers, someone told us that it was the inspiration point for "I know a place". Not a counselor, I think.

Did you sing "Counselor Blues", too? It was one of my fondest memories of that tail end of camp when we we're cleaning up and tucking everything away for the next year.

(That and "but you MUST pay the rent...")

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: GUEST,Jeni Warnken
Date: 19 Aug 05 - 02:15 PM

"I know a Place" was written for Flying "G" and copyrighted as well in the mid '60's I think. Mile High Council has the information and it's published in the council songbook. On a sad note, Mile Hi has decided to sell Flying "G" this summer. It is currently listed at 2.5 million. Anybody have a spare million or two that needs a home?

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 10:09 AM

I was browsing the web on a different mission when this thread popped up.

I love Bert's song. 'Are there more stars than snowflakes'- Great

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: Melissa
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:47 AM

I keep opening these gs threads hoping someone is about to set up a gathering to record a whole slew of the songs.
Isn't it about time for somebody to think about hosting a gathering for old gs?

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune - Warsaw 42
From: GUEST,oldtxgs
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 12:44 PM

Does anyone have the lyrics to Warsaw the 42nd? For some reason, the song has been going through my head for weeks and I only remember a few lines. Anyone know the history of it?

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 04:34 PM

Back in my girlscout days...around 1963....at Camp Pottowatami, in Indiana, we learned a song from Smokey and Trees called:

Green Valley   
                  I saw a little green valley,
                with a carpet of corn for a floor,
                and I heard a voice within me whisper
                This is worth living for.

                I saw a little log cabin
                with a river that runs by it's door,
                  and I heard a voice within me whisper
                   this is worth living for
Didn't I build that cabin,
didn't I plant that corn
didn't my fathers, before me
fight for this country before I was born
                I gathered my loved ones around me
                and I gazed at each face I adored
                and I heard a voice within me thunder
                this is worth living for.

What a hoot....I have been trying to remember the words for nearly 30 years, I was going to ask if anyone remembered this one, and as I typed, the words just came to me. :)

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,dwoofus
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 05:19 PM

With fond memories of Flying G - "Dutch" was head of camp when I was there - late 1940's - early 50's. Does anyone remember "Horse and Goggle"? Singing after meals was the best part. I can't believe it is no longer.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Pogo
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:48 PM

"I Know a Place" was written by Nancy Child, a camper at Flying G, some time in the early 1960s. She should get credit for this long-standing favorite. In my mind, she captured Wigwam Creek at Flying G, its two meadows, and the mountains around. Thanks, Nancy, if you're out there.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,booklynrose
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:25 PM

Warsaw the 42nd might be what I learned as Wall saw the 42nd:

Wall saw the 42nd, Wall saw them goin' to war
Wall saw the 42nd marching through the bramble braw.

Zumdeba wore boots and stockings, Zumdeba wore none at all
Zumdeba wore boots and stockings, marching through the bramble braw.

I was told that "wall saw" meant we all saw, and "Zumdeba" meant some of them.   ???

I was in the Girl Scouts in the 1950's, so it is a surprise the way some of these songs are still in memory.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,bonnieg131
Date: 10 Jul 10 - 10:16 PM

I'm glad to finally know the history of "I know a place". I sang it from '76 to'78 at Pine Creek Girl Scout Camp in Shoup, Idaho. My mom Pat was our troop leader and another lady named Debbie taught us the song. Funny to think it had been around for nearly 20 years before I ever heard it and it fit Pine Creek so perfectly. We were some lucky girls to have such a beautiful place to camp. Thanks for reminding me of the second verse too. I remember that I learned what a "ravine" was from that song. I was only 6!!! Thanks Ladies!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: Eiseley
Date: 11 Jul 10 - 12:52 AM

Oh, now I have that song on my mind!

I was at girls' camp starting in 1976 (at Brighton, at the top of Big Cottonwood Canyon just east of Salt Lake City) and learned I Know a Place then. I've been singing it to my boys at night since they were very young. In fact, most of the songs are familiar.

After every meal was finished, and before the singing started, the groups at each table would pound three times and then shout some tidbit of information in unison. For example, one table might shout, "Sprig's group is ready to hike!" and another group would shout, "We'll beat you to the top of Mount Majestic!" That pounding and shouting was what we called Horse and Goggles.

Wonderful memories!

Eiseley

Subject: ADD: I Know a Place
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:59 PM

I recognize the words to "I know a place" but does anyone have a link to the tune on mp3 or midi? I can't find it anywhere??

I know a place where no one ever goes
There's peace and quiet, beauty, and repose
It's hidden in a valley beside a mountain stream
And lying there beside that stream I find that I can dream
Only of things of beauty to the eye
Snow peaked mountains tow'ring in the sky
Now I know that God has made this world for me

One can imagine
himself as in a dream.
Climbing a mountain
Or down a small ravine.
The magic of this peace and quiet evermore shall stay
To make this place a haven, each and every day.
Oh how I wish I'd never have to leave,
And all my life, such beauty to receive.
Now I know that God has made this place for me.

---

http://www.weknowcampfiresongs.com/detail-i_know_a_place.html
I Know A Place

---

I know a place, where no one ever goes
There's peace and quiet, beauty and repose
It's hidden in a valley, beside a mountain stream
And lying there beside the stream
I find that I can dream.

Oh, what a place of beauty to the eye
Snow peaked mountains towering towards the sky
Now I know that God has made this world for me.
One can imagine, himself as in a dream
Climbing a mountain or down a small ravine

The magic of this peace and quiet always will stay
To make this place a haven each and every day
Oh how I wish I never had to leave
And all my life, such beauty to receive
Now I know that God has made this world for me.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:08 PM

English version again:

In a cottage in a wood,
Little old man at the window stood,
Saw a rabbit running by
Knocking at the door.
"Help me, help me, help me" he said
"All those guns will shoot me dead",
"Come little rabbit, come to me,
Happy we shall be"

As Marymac90 said, we did it omitting one line of words each time, and substituting them with mime, until the whole song was in mime.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,YES PLEASE
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 02:37 PM

Yes please i love that song (I know a place). Thank you!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,A former girl scout, but learned this song e
Date: 24 Sep 10 - 02:10 AM

I have been looking for the words to this song for so long!! I am a former girl scout, but learned it as an adult and parent through Marriage Encounter meetings. I am 57, learned it in 1981. I sang it to my infant son to go to sleep by and have been trying to remember the words. I sing parts of to my grandson but could not remember all the verses. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Jsue1205
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 10:21 PM

I sing this to my grandson.

I've got something in my pocket
It belongs across my face
I keep it very close to me
In a very convenient place
I'll bet you'd never guess it
If you guessed a long long while
So I'll take it out and put it on
It's a great big "grandma" smile.

He loves it!

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Another one for the grandsons.
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 10:30 PM

Great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
Mutilated monkey's meat
Little birdie's dirty feet
Great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
I forgot my spoon (but I brought a strawwwww!)

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: Slag
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 11:25 PM

"Did You Ever Go Sailing", words and music by Albert E. Brumley copyright 1938

In part:

Did you ever go sailing
Down the river of memories
To a little log cabin
That's nestled among the sycamore trees?

I have the Cynthia Clawson version in an album entitled "River of Memories".

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Alicia
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 02:23 PM

Like Guest who posted on July 14, I couldn't find the melody anywhere for "I know A Place". I have a large set of files of songs from my childhood, and I finally started writing midis for the songs I couldn't find.

I wrote a midi for this song, and if someone tells me how to do it, I'd be happy to send it.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Pam
Date: 07 Nov 12 - 07:38 PM

RE. Warsaw the 42nd -- here's how I remember it from my GS days in the 60s:

Warsaw the 42nd
Warsaw has gone to war
Warsaw the 42nd
Marching through the brambles raw.

Zum de dem have boots and stockings
Zum de dem have nigh at all
Zum de dem have boots and stockings
Marching through the brambles raw.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 13 - 10:28 PM

I remember Greasy GOpher Guts.. I cant find "A Gypsy's life is gay and free" we sand it in the 6th grade for a play.. musical.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: Bettynh
Date: 08 Nov 13 - 10:31 AM

You can see and hear girl scouts singing "I know a place" on this youtube video starting at 4:00.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 20 - 11:51 PM

I'm remembering a song with the words.... Livin' in tents and cabins, under watch of God
He made the pathways that our feet have trod....       I love to live and live to love for all these
wonderful things.... oh boomdiada, boomdiada, boomdiada boom......

Anyone remember that one? from the 50's

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Coke (Colleen Pike Holbrook)
Date: 15 Sep 20 - 09:23 PM

Rabbitrunning! SCRATCH!!! I am beside myself! I have looked for you for so very long. And I see that this thread has not been active since 2001. Far too long. At least I know you have been here.
I hope you are still out there, alive and well!

This is Coke from Flying G, '77. Oh what a summer. You were my bestie, I had such a hard time and you were always there for me. Remember going down to your family's place in Denver, the ice cream shop, and we played Star Trek in the park (after seeing Star Wars for the very first time!) That was the summer my stepdad committed suicide, and if I recall, you were on TO with me and we hiked up Prospector and slept in the kinnickinnick beds the night before I learned the news.

I found Shorty not too long ago!

If you ever, ever, ever in your long-legged life, come back in here and see this, find me on Facebook under my full name (above). Much love and fond memories, old friend.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: Susan of DT
Date: 16 Sep 20 - 06:17 AM

A different cabin in the woods song, complete with hand motions:

In the woods there stands a house [draw a square]
I looked from my window out [shade your eyes]
Saw a rabbit in distress [rabbit ears?]
Running in alarm [hands make little running motions]
Help me, help me, sir, he cried [fling hands out]
From the hunter I must hide [cringe down?]
Keep me safe and warm [one hand pets the other]

I was a girl scout in the 50s and 60s

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: GUEST,Don Hickman
Date: 14 Jun 24 - 04:53 PM

My step mother is Nancy Child Hickman. She is the Nancy Child who wrote I Know a Place. She is still alive. She lives in Layton Utah now.

Subject: RE: another girl scout tune about cabin by a stream
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jun 24 - 10:09 AM

I missed this one ... must be a regional thing,
in my part of Girl Scout World
they didn't sing Little Green Valley.