BS: In every thread someone has to be last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 05:00 PM

I'll work on it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:06 AM

This one was pretty good...

"Do I ask for too much, too soon, to seek
To look into your eyes?"

Yes, I am afraid you do! ;-)

"Must I pretend
To not care for your smile?"

(?) Whatever floats your boat, I guess...

"Yet, would I send
My words, if I did not care?"

You might if you're just caught up in some sort of compulsive repetitive behaviour.

"I am weak
Against emotions: Would you have me speak
Without my heart, as if you had not power
To drive dreams to despair?"

Oh, you're really putting me on the spot now! Don't make me answer that one, okay?

"Would you spend (an) hour
To seal my fate, or free me from this peak?"

What peak? Are you talking about mountain climbing or is that some double entendre about achieving orgasm?

"I am trapped- All directions lead me down
To an abyss, save that I look to you
For inspiration."

Sheesh. How do I put this delicately? You are fucked.


"Would you raise vision
Above this?"

I don't know. What level of vision are we at now?

"Is my hope to be but clown,
To amuse?"

Hey, you're doing a great job so far! ;-D

"Can I hope to know your true
Opinion, without risk of derision?"

Well, geez......look, I have to make one thing quite clear. The risk of derision is frankly.....it's pretty high. Yup. Pretty damn high. I think we are talking about an almost total risk of derision here. Major ass-whupping derision even. Sorry about that!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:20 AM

ok, here is another...

Sonnet 30/01/03                        DCCLXXXIV

Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire. Why do I dream, in dark
And silence? I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark.
I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?
What hope had I to ever two hearts link?
I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest. I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met.
Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:21 AM

Or this?

Sonnet 07/07/07                                  MLXIV

This muse's moon gives evening silver light,
But dream cannot see other than the past.
How can I find a source of verse so bright
As thought of her? Does only darkness last?
Dawn does not offer hope: Each day remains
Without a muse's fire. How can heart find
Echo of beauty, when dream's darkness stains
The memory of times I was not blind?
Eyes open, but see nothing: Sight is gray,
When noon light should show all of life's real shades.
What can I do, to remove tears, but pray
To find true muse before all of hope fades?
Time does not alter that I care, nor change
The hope muse might one day these dreams arrange.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:01 PM

"Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire."

Have you considered jumping off a cliff?

"Why do I dream, in dark
And silence?"

Most people dream in dark and silence. Get over yourself.

"I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark."

Neither do I.

"I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?"

Hmmm. Yeah. I had a thought like that once...slapped myself upside the head good and hard, and it went away.

"What hope had I to ever two hearts link?"

Not much.

"I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest."

Actually, rest is easier in a cold room than a hot one...

"I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met."

Yeah! That makes sense to me. I've never met Winona Ryder either.

"Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care."

Yes, indeed. I will always love Winona, even though she doesn't know I exist. These are the comforts that get one through, aren't they?

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 01:12 PM

LH,

"These are the comforts that get one through, aren't they?"

Verily!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 10 - 01:44 PM

As a promotion to financially support mudcat, I propose we ask Joe if an auction to be the last person to post on this thread be started.

The highest paid bidder will be the last person on this thread for as long as the sun will shine and as long as the wind shall blow forever and ever and ever.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:13 PM

Not in accord with the intent of the OP.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:25 PM

4 of 68...


Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXX

In lilac scented smoke my muse reclines
As I ask questions, to determine how
I might encourage smiles. I seek for signs
To tell how I might capture dreams, for now.
In moonlight I might find within her eyes
More than reflections of my own desires:
To see past stars within some future skies,
And feel within my heart emotions fires.
Yet in soft flame, I might more meanings find
Within her look. I seek to center know,
That I might have some guide, and not be blind
To what I ask, and seek in verse to show.
I shall light candles to my muse, to seem
As stars around her haloed hair, and dream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:26 PM

5 of 68...


Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXXI

I now regret I did not know you, when
That which you tell occurred. I cannot send
Comfort or caring to past. To open
My heart to you, that I might hope to mend
Some of your hurt, I must at least now try.
Yet, can I hope to share what you now feel,
Or just helpless stand, listening to you cry?
I have not knowledge to which fate I seal.

I cannot alter past, to comfort you
Or care while it did matter. Can I hold
You as a friend, and offer shoulder now?
I care, that you remember pain, and know
Such loss. I hope you do not think me bold,
To offer healing where I don't know how.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:27 PM

LH,

I know these don't have enough questions for you to mock them easily, but perhaps you can talk about how ugly my dog was, or how my mother dressed me funny.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:00 PM

I'll get to that, Bruce. ;-) Give me time.

Donuel, I think your idea is an absolutely inspired one! Contact Joe and see if he can put it into motion.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:40 PM

What??!! You would allow wealth to win out over grit and determination?


Shame!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:50 PM

Yeah? But think, man! This could raise enough money to put Mudcat in "the big leagues"...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 06:37 PM

Maybe for "Mother", but this thread? Small change, probably.

I have 26 cents Canadian to bid ( not legal tender here, though worth more)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:21 PM

6 of 68


Sonnet 18/11/00                        CDLXXXII

I think about you, muse, but fear desire
Might color vision: Do I ask for more
From you than to future image inspire?
I dare not impact to my dreams ignore.
I cannot say my heart might not be found
To be under your power: I would lie
To say I would resent emotion. Bound
To Past, heart might yet hope to future tie.
Yet I dare not upon your smile impose,
Nor ask, unless you offer: You control
All save my dreams. Yes, I would that verse shows
Heart, but I care too much to ask for soul.
I care, and hope to hold you as a friend:
Yet pray my dreams do not my intent bend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:04 PM

"I think about you, muse, but fear desire
Might color vision"

I think your fear is well justified.

"Do I ask for more
From you than to future image inspire?"

Uhh....what???

"I dare not impact to my dreams ignore."

Yeah. Boring me you are. Look, no one talks like that except Yoda, for God's sake.

"I cannot say my heart might not be found
To be under your power: I would lie
To say I would resent emotion."

Well, we couldn't have that, could we? It's not nice to lie.

"Bound To Past, heart might yet hope to future tie."

Yoda again! Listen to this crap will I not.

"Yet I dare not upon your smile impose,
Nor ask, unless you offer: You control
All save my dreams."

Would that I could control your bizarre compulsion to deluge the world with romantic sonnets!

"Yes, I would that verse shows
Heart, but I care too much to ask for soul."

Right...

"I care, and hope to hold you as a friend:
Yet pray my dreams do not my intent bend."

Good lord no! We couldn't have that. Perish the thought.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:28 PM

ok, I'll post some more!

7 of 68

Sonnet 21/11/00                                CDLXXXIII

Shall I call out your name, that you might hear
My supplications? I might place my heart
Upon the alter of my words, but fear
That might not be enough to invoke Art.
Shall I ask for your blessing, when the night
Is cloudy? Starless darkness fills my soul
With longing. Shall I dare of desires write?
I would not hope to your concern control.
Am I foolish, now, for caring, or a fool
For seeing you as muse? I hope to find
Some focus: I dare not let my dreams rule.
Yet, I would hold your hand, if you'd not mind.
I do not know you well enough, yet know
I care too much to risk you'd bid me go.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:29 PM

8 of 68

Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXIV

My thoughts confused by dream, and muse, and verse:
How can I vision see, without the light
You bring into my dreams? Does heart reverse
All I know, to hold me, captive to sight?
Light of my night, muse of my dreams, I wait
For direction: I dare not dreams allow
To guide without your words. I know not Fate,
To see future, or to understand now.
I would that I could hold you, but the wire
Between does not allow my arms to reach
To you. Should I ask more than you desire,
I hope that you will tell me so, and smile.
I would carry away, and at some beach
Seek within eyes what I have sought the while.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:31 PM

LH,

May the Force be with you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:34 PM

LH,

"except Yoda, for God's sake."


No, you mean for the Force's sake. There is no God in Star Wars.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:42 PM

LH, Thank you!



" Look, no one talks like that except Yoda,"

I talk that way.

Thus, you are saying I am Yoda.



funny, I never noticed his beard.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:52 PM

Talk that way and understand you people will not. Or annoyed they will become.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:45 PM

Oh? You want more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 10 - 04:58 PM

If threaten me you will, prepared for the consequences you must be.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:35 PM

If you insist...

9 of 68



Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXV

I have not seen into your eyes, nor felt
The touch of skin, nor heard your voice, to know
You hold my heart. I care, but dare dreams melt
Before you? And how would you have me show
Devotion from distance? Caring, I have tears
From reading: How would I feel, to realize
I cannot hold you, or share of those fears?
How could I see through what would fill my eyes?
Yet I would hold you as my friend, and pray
My feelings would reflect your own. I'd kiss
Your forehead and your palm, and hope to say
I do not wish to your written words miss.
It is desire I dare not dream as true:
How can I hope to know if I love you?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:45 PM

Scorn my threats you dare? Incensed I am. Pay dearly you shall. (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:53 PM

You want TWO more??

Only if you insist... But you get one for the comment.


10 of 68


Sonnet 24/11/00                                CDLXXXVI

And should I hide my feelings, when we meet,
That I do not risk losing your sweet smile?
Should I not offer to rub oil on feet,
Or not be open how I see you, while
You are before me, and inside my dreams?
I value you as muse more than my heart:
I dare not risk your smile with any schemes,
Nor dare I hear desires, to risk my Art.
I balance on a razor edge between
Fear and desire: I fear I may offend
But seek to know all that I might, and see
All future that my muse will let be seen.
Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 02:33 PM

Ahhhh.....(flexing my hands in delicious anticipation)

All righty then! Let's have at this one.

"And should I hide my feelings, when we meet,
That I do not risk losing your sweet smile?"

Yes, I think you should. Definitely.

"Should I not offer to rub oil on feet,
Or not be open how I see you, while
You are before me, and inside my dreams?"

Oh, you're getting kinky now! Don't go all Biblical on me, okay?

"I value you as muse more than my heart:"

How foolish of you.

"I dare not risk your smile with any schemes,
Nor dare I hear desires, to risk my Art."

Man, we are talking HIGH level risk here! It's white knuckle time, folks...


"I balance on a razor edge between
Fear and desire:"

Like my Dachshund as he attempts to steal the roast off the patio ledge....

"I fear I may offend"

Oh, you DO, sir, you DO.

"But seek to know all that I might, and see
All future that my muse will let be seen."

Forget it. I reveal nothing to the likes of you.

"Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free."

Why not just end it all instead? I can suggest several handy methods of exiting stage left, to use an old expression.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:13 PM

ok,

11 of 68...


Sonnet 24/11/00                                    CDLXXXVII

I would that I could move you to those planes
Where your true self could be seen, by the light
Of stars that mortal has not seen, as white
As snow before it reaches ground: No stains
Upon the moon, that silver glow retains
All eldritch power to future display.
Yet, dare I risk vision? My dreams must pray
That I might call you back, as heart complains.
I'd place the golden bridle in your hand
And watch you ride the unicorn, but know
I dare not seek the slowest of that band
With coat the color of the fallen snow.
Would you be fairy to my troll, and lend
Some portion of your power, to words mend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:14 PM

12 of 68...


Sonnet 25/11/00                                    CDLXXXVIII

How can I repay that which muse inspires?
I do not know the answer, but I fear
I might give soul that I might stop a tear.
How might I say that which my heart desires?
And what words might I write, to ask reply,
And would my muse give me a future dream
That heart might rest, and future hope redeem?
To muse, I cannot truth of words deny.
I ask the price that my muse might demand
To lend vision to dream: What is the cost
For giving back to my dreams what was lost?
How can I help but stand with heart in hand?
You offer hope: Far more than just a dream,
You send my thoughts upon a different stream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:16 PM

LH,

""I value you as muse more than my heart:"

How foolish of you.
"


With 9 stents and and ICD, the value of my heart is nil- it's the accessories that are so high priced.




""I fear I may offend"

Oh, you DO, sir, you DO.
"

Success at last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:43 PM

LOL!

What a merry little online tete-a-tete this has become.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:52 PM

Of Course!

With only the two of us demonstrating the stamina to keep weaving this thread, and you having Chongo to assist you, and dachshunds to fall back on, and I having lots more sonnets, there will be no end-

We have reached a perfect balance, between the sublime and the ridiculous. What more could we ask? ( other than a winning lottery ticket?)

BTW, I bought a little red brick schoolhouse in NY state- 4265 sq. ft auditorium and stage. Plan to retire into it in 10 -15 years, which is how long it will take to fix it up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 04:27 PM

LH,

""Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free."

Why not just end it all instead? I can suggest several handy methods of exiting stage left, to use an old expression. "



I did die once, but I got better. It was during the 3rd angioplasty, when they were putting in the first set of stents.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 04:34 PM

LH,

froman earlier post of yours:

"to deluge the world with romantic sonnets!" I had not thought to include the WHOLE world, but now that you mention it... I've just gotten a contract with Xlibris, so I can get hardcopis out there to all the libraries, high schools, nursing homes, dentist and doctors' offices, and reading rooms. I'll look into the Gideons- maybe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 06:37 PM

The horror! The horror! ;-) You will drive traveling salesman mad with frustration.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 06:51 PM

You don't think that some of the sonnets can sub for "Psalms"?


At least for traveling salesmen?



Maybe I can get Chongo to write a chapter...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 10 May 10 - 11:31 PM

3 of 2      XMXXVIII

Hard times
end times
without time to think
each blames the other
ignoring their brother
tasting stagnant quicksand
as we sink
deeper
darker
still blaming
the other
for forgetting
the rope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:43 AM

Chongo will gladly write a chapter...for an appropriate fee.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:52 AM

Donuel,

Keep working at it- someday you might create something worthwhile.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:54 AM

13 of 68...


Sonnet 26/11/00                                    CDLXXXIX

I would rather cry, than be uncaring:
I cannot not care, and still call you friend.
Yet I call you my muse: Would my heart end
All hope for future verse? Is my sharing
Sadness such a crime? I would have you know
That sadness shared is halved: Love shared is squared,
For giving multiplies. Yet has heart dared
To balance dreams against what your words show?
All that I know does not explain the power
The thought of you controls. I did not seek
To hold more than your smile, but find I speak
In words perhaps more suited to some bower.
I wish for all of Love: Mind, body, soul,
But know that Time has of me taken toll.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:55 AM

14 of 68


Sonnet 26/11/00                                    CDXC        

Might I know where in mind you sit and rest.
That I would know where I might search for muse,
Within these dreams that I cannot refuse.
How might I find that fountain, or seek nest
Of snowy owl with emerald eyes? This day
Fair daughter of the gods, I seek to know
Some portion of your dreams, that I might show
How far that I might go, to light repay.
Had I, within my dreams, the means to find,
I would that I could see into your eyes,
That I might lose all fears, and hear no cries.
Yet in my dreams I wander, sightless, blind.
I do not mean to flatter, but to praise
The muse that in dreams sends to me her rays.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:57 AM

LH,

Chong wouldn't settle for credit, and having his work read by all those lonely salesmen?

One would think the product placement payments would be more than enough.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:05 PM

I'm going to see if I can get Chongo to spare a little time from his busy schedule and answer one of your sonnets, Bruce. Hang on...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:07 PM

LH,

Re Chongo and sonnets:

Just remember- 14 lines- the number of rounds in two government .45 auto clips.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:21 PM

Perfect! ;-) Chongo can relate to that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:34 PM

I thought he might.


But have him look at this one:



Sonnet 07/05/02         Bhan Sidhe                DCLXXXVIII

It was an odd noise that I heard, this night:
Not quite a scream, but far more than a gasp,
From moonless darkness, with no stars in sight.
What is this coldness, that my insides clasp?
Why do I weaken, hearing sound so far
Only the echo reaches ear, yet mind
Is twisted from intent? How can I bar
Gate of imagination to wyrd bind?
I fall, boneless with fright, and sweat breaks out;
Bowels turn to water with despair. I weep,
To lose all. I moan, but cannot give shout
To more than whimper, nor my reason keep.
She passes, and I live! Yet dare not rise
For fear of seeing Death within her eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:35 PM

LH,

And I give him, gratis, the next post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:39 PM

3000

Al