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BS: Trump INDICTED AGAIN x4 (NO new Trmp threads)

Donuel 15 Mar 23 - 08:44 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Mar 23 - 08:44 AM

Another Trump outcome has come to pass. His legislation to deregulate 250 billion dollar banks has led to the second largest bank failure like the bigger banks in 2008. Deregulation allows banks to invest depositor money in high-risk schemes that make for bonus money for executives., but anathema for others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 23 - 12:44 PM

I don't usually turn on the MSNBC folks in the morning, but today we have two Trump-caused crises looming: anti-abortion advocates went judge-shopping and found one of his appointees in Amarillo, TX, to try to overturn FDA approval of Mifepristone, while mid-size huge banks totter because Trump cut out important features of the Dodd-Franks bill that would have prevented this.

Biden needs to do something about expanding the Supreme Court. Or impeach a criminal-class judge who Trump appointed and Clarence Thomas should never have been approved. That one's on Biden, whichever way you look at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 23 - 07:42 PM

Moody’s Downgrades Entire U.S. Banking System; Credit Suisse Plummets. Welcome to Banking Crisis 3.0
On July 29 of last year we wrote that Wall Street Megabanks’ Multi-Billion Dollar Blunders Suggest Money Controls as Good as George Bailey’s Uncle Billy and summed up our analysis with: “This is the stuff of banana republics – not a financial system befitting a superpower.”

On a regular basis, we emailed these articles to key staff of the Senators and House Reps who sit on the Senate Banking and House Financial Services Committees.

Late Monday, the credit rating agency, Moody’s, downgraded the entire U.S. banking system outlook to negative from stable. (Let that sink in for a moment – a downgrade of the entire U.S. banking system.) The news of the Moody’s downgrade did not hit the wires until yesterday, which should have cratered the most vulnerable bank stocks. Instead, there was a highly suspicious short squeeze that fueled a big rally in the prices of publicly-traded banks.

That unwarranted optimism has now been reversed this morning with Dow futures down more than 600 points just after 8:00 a.m. in New York; major banks in Europe temporarily halted from trading after steep selloffs; and troubled Swiss behemoth bank, Credit Suisse, down 24 percent to a new all time low of $1.74 in morning trade in Europe following multiple trading halts. For the systemic contagion posed by Credit Suisse, see our February 10 article: Credit Suisse Tanks Yesterday to $3.02; It’s Lost Over 90 Percent of Its Market Value Since 2007; It’s Not Alone.

The rest is at the link. Trump always wants access to banks, and wants to have an unlevel playing field. He borrows from banks, he doesn't invest in them - that I know of - so his diddling the rules regarding banks would have been to benefit himself. One wonders if any banks (Deutsche Bank comes to mind) will throw him under the clown car.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 10:41 AM

The bottom line is to not think a panic run on banks is a good idea.
This repeat of the effect of deregulation of banks in 1929 and 2008 is not on the same scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 02:50 PM

> Trump always wants access to banks

.... so did the Rumpo Kid in Carry On Cowboy. Hopefully there's a Marshall P Knutt in town somewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 23 - 02:56 PM

His name is Elizabeth Warren.


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From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 23 - 08:20 PM

Washington Week reported an additional 135 Billion dollars has been used
to (bailout) prop up a number of banks that will not be disclosed for 2 years. This can lead to a snap slow down in the economy which is probably too much medicine to lower inflation.
Between inflation, bailouts, and student loans this looks like a 3 body problem with no clear solution.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 23 - 08:45 PM

Trump's Hate List has expanded to include OURSELVES and the 'harrible' people in charge and the, innovative silicon valley companies, Hollywood, Disney, Democratic Culture, Pop Music, Gays-lesbians and trans, anyone or book that is woke which includes the Pentagon, CIA, FBI and NSA. In other words, a giant purge is needed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 12:01 AM

Trump is so close to indictment we can almost taste it. The folks at MSNBC are counting the possible places it could come from and watching to see who gets there first. Good. He has it coming.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 05:53 AM

Trump is America's Khaddafi and his followers are the American Isis.
I am not their keeper but as an American, I am their brother.
Who I am to the Trumpists shouldn't be different, but is.
To unite a dysfunctional family will be a tough lesson to learn znd will need specific situations and compassion for the duped and deluded.
Just locking their champion up is not the full answer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 06:03 AM

There will need to be an iconic visual that will lift us all or shame us all. Words are not enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 06:21 AM

In my opinion the SDNY Stormy Danials case will be a reach to prosecute compared to the Georgia election interference case. The classified documents case has become diluted due to Biden and Pence documents.
I hope these facts will intercede strategically over a lust for an indictment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 08:42 AM

WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS, TRUMP HAS POSTED COME TO MY ARREST ON TUESDAY AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, IT WILL BE WILD!!!!!!!!!1

Perhaps the visual I was alluding to will be his mug shots and fingerprinting. I am guessing US Marshalls will have to take a plane down to Florida to take him into custody since I don't think he will turn himself in. This Trump post is a gambit and based on leaks and a threat of violence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 09:00 AM

In his post Trump blames a Jew George Soros for his impending arrest.

I blame his one of the four times the Capitol was attacked.
First by the British then the Civil War, 9-11 and Jan. 6th.

Will US Marshalls have to go to FL?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 10:52 AM

He posted this crap from his golf course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 12:24 PM

So he is overtly breaking the law again by calling for another riot or insurrection. The guy does. not. learn. from. his. mistakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 12:46 PM

Technically he is calling for protests. Between March madness and doing a Trump protest, I think March Madness wins.

McCarthy and Greene have posted their Trump fear and anger support.
The DA has made no comment.
Personally, I think the mixed metaphorical glove fits but it is a bridge too far above a river of tears.:^?


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From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 02:19 PM

In the upper echelons of government and decorum, it is being said that Trump has pulled this out of his ass.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 02:50 PM

It looks like Trump was just passing ammunition to Jim Jorden's House investigation regarding the Democrat's weaponization of the law with their investigation into the attack on the Capitol and law makers.

Will there be a Senate investigation into the House Investigations of the 1st investigation's investigation?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 03:20 PM

When he again says "it will be wild!" he's signalling that riots and destruction are fine with him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 18 Mar 23 - 03:58 PM

Donuel and SRS, I do try to stay out of the politics of other countries, but Trump has unfortunately "trumped" my good intentions.

I can't help thinking of the Anti-Christ, who generates a huge following but has nothing to offer but his own, huge self-serving intentions, cleverly shrouded in big words, duping the real people into following him into battle, believing it to be for the good of the nation and/or the world.

I agree with you Donuel that there needs to be compassion for the duped and deluded, preceded by an opening of their minds to reality.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 08:18 AM

The hard core true believer Nazix will not back down.

In an almost organic process, the bank failures follow a process of multiple hive collapses of the money bees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 11:52 AM

Helen, I fear that the process of having eyes opened to the fraud that Trump has practiced will be painful to his followers. In the immediate future it doesn't feel like a passive process. His dense subalterns like Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, and other self-serving individuals won't want to give up their platform for attention and riches.


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From: Helen
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 01:55 PM

SRS, I agree.

One of the scariest things I saw on ABC [American] News was a group of serious looking Christians standing around the back of Trump's chair in the White House, laying their hands on his shoulders and praying as if he were the new Messiah.


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 02:45 PM

Remarkable that that happened because he apparently doesn't like being touched.


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From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 02:57 PM

”…a group of serious looking Christians standing around the back of Trump's chair in the White House, laying their hands on his shoulders and praying as if he were the new Messiah.”

Not so much the new Messiah, IMHO, more the Anti-Christ.


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From: Helen
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 03:53 PM

Sorry Backwoodsman, I should have said "Messiah" and not just Messiah. I did say the Anti-Christ in my post at 18 Mar 23 - 03:58 PM.

Also, I think it was on ABC News but it might have been PBS News. The Christians might not have actually been touching him. Maybe they were just holding their hands a little bit away from him, sending him the Christian energy to help him in his "mission" - whatever they thought THAT might be.

I also keep thinking about how surprised a lot of his followers were when, a) they found out COVID was real and dangerous, and b) they found out that the attack on the Capitol was in fact a life-threatening attack.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 03:54 PM

I told an ex CIA operative who was stationed in Uzbekistan that Bush was the anti christ. She said "just wait".


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Helen
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 04:50 PM

I did an internet search on:

trump christians in the white house

There were a lot of results.

This is a long article but makes some interesting points:

How the Christian Right Helped Foment Insurrection

And here is the photo I mentioned earlier. with an interesting take on what some Christians believe about Trump and his intentions:

photo


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 05:29 PM

They are utterly, irreversibly barking mad, completely insane. As is Trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 05:46 PM

Arrest warrant out for Putin. Trump looks to be at the end of his road. Just BoJo to complete the set.

We can but hope...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 05:51 PM

Even George Washington lamented the politically extreme Christians of his day.


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From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 06:08 PM

Gosh. I've been on here countless times grandstanding my militant atheism. I haven't got much time for Christianity or any other creed that people were accidentally born into and find it hard to escape from. But let's be careful here. The majority of people who I've lived with, were brought up with, who brought me up, worked with or otherwise encountered in multifarious ways have been Christians "to some degree" (discuss!). Most of them are decent people who have certain views I don't agree with and who don't agree with some of my views. Whatever Trump has done he has not done it in the name of Jesus, whatever he might claim. Neither have the sanctimonious bastards who support him "in the name of Jesus," whatever THEY might claim. Let's keep a sense of perspective. And come on, you genuine Christians, speak up and don't let these bloody charlatans get away with it. And we non-Christians too!


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 23 - 09:15 PM

There are countless memes out there that express opinions that reject religions that insist on dictating how other people think and act. Christianity in the US is becoming the American Taliban. If more moderate xtians can't convince their brethren to tone it down and take a few steps back, then they need to act, or reject outright the behavior - do something to regain their religion. Just like moderate GOP members have to contend with the lunatics in power right now.

Trump is trying to control the event, to dictate how this story moves forward. His proclaiming that he will be arrested on Tuesday is trying to get in front of the story. But this one is carrying him along to parts unknown.


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From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Mar 23 - 03:44 AM

he has asked his supporters to protest on the day, & no doubt some will bring their 2nd Amendment rights along with them ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 23 - 07:57 AM

Hey, those are code words for guns and murder. ;^/


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Mar 23 - 08:49 AM

If his loonies try anything in Manhattan, where drumpf has long been considered a pariah, there should be plenty of NY's finest there in riot gear to tamp down any protest that turns violent.


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From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 06:41 AM

McConnell fell Wednesday after attending a reception for the Senate Leadership Fund, a super PAC that pumped $290 million into the 2022 election, followed by a private dinner at the Waldorf Astoria.

Sources familiar with the evening described the dinner as a small private event. McConnell was taken to the hospital by ambulance after tripping and hitting his head and fracturing a rib..

McConnell fractured his shoulder after falling at his home in Kentucky in 2019 and triple bypass surgery in 2003. He is in a rehab center and not attending Congress.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says she only gave Mitch a tiny slap on the back ;-/


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From: gillymor
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 06:53 AM

Sounds like what we used to call a case of the Kentucky flu.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 11:25 AM

I'm going to make a big bowl of popcorn.


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From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 07:53 PM

I think of all the political pundits and authors of Trump books and realize that they all miss the point and make arcane explanations of their own. One in Five Americans read at a third-grade level and half at the 6th-grade level. nuff said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 08:20 PM

It turns out that the great Trump arrest leak was a trickle compared to the one he watched in Moscow.


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 09:34 PM

Trump is trying to manage the story, and by saying it would happen today, had a lot of people paying attention to him. My popcorn will keep, my Tupperware bowl has an airtight lid.


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From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 10:08 PM

can't waste that popcorn!


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Mar 23 - 10:58 PM

It sounds like a race to the indictment - Jack Smith has an overnight deadline for some of the work he's doing (he's the special counsel on the stolen documents case.) So many possibilities! Perhaps it will be like watching a tennis match - back and forth between the players.


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From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 23 - 06:51 PM

In my crystal ball, I see some of the 3 upcoming indictments overlapping and Trump fundraising with the video of being fingerprinted and perp walked. As Rachel says "put a pin in it".

Trump Documentaries in the future will have great soundtrack background music like Jailhouse Rock and tunes by Cash, Waites and others.


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Mar 23 - 08:04 PM

The New York grand jury is pushing work until Monday. I heard today about a death threat and envelope of white powder sent to the Manhattan DA; not sure if this is part of the delay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Mar 23 - 08:13 PM

Trump promises in text "Death and Destruction".
He is such a Hitler wannabe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 04:48 AM

I cannot find any recent source for that Donuel. Can you provide a link please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump Actions/Effects (NO new Trmp threads) 2
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Mar 23 - 06:45 AM

It is in today's Daily Telegraph.

DC


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