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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Musket Date: 28 Jul 14 - 12:43 PM Hamas killed over a thousand Palestinians? Has anyone been told of this?? It would make front page news, perhaps bumping from the prime slot the news of how many Palestinians Israeli militants have killed since they started their aggression. (coincidentally, just over a thousand. Each bullet had "A gift from The USA "written on it for that matter.) Call me a Hamas stooge once more I and I start posting details of your interest in small boys. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 12:39 PM "Over the weekend, Kerry did manage to facilitate something in the Middle East: unparalleled unanimity. Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan were all in agreement that Kerry's efforts were undermining the attempt to bring about a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas as quickly as possible. Moreover, Kerry's framework and the ideas he presented led to an extraordinary phone call taking place between a senior Palestinian Authority official and an Israeli counterpart, during which the two mocked the senior diplomat's naivete and his failure to understand the regional reality." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 12:26 PM " Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa. Gaza's police operations room, Civil Defense and Sahabani said the deaths and injuries were caused by Israeli airstrikes." BUT YOU BETTER NOT TAKE ANY PICTURES!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 12:23 PM An honest person would say that we do not KNOW which side is responsible, but that looking at the shrapnel recovered from the wounded would determine that. Ee cannot expect our three Hamas "stooges" (Musket, Jimmy, and GreggieF) to ever look at facts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 12:15 PM GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A Gaza park was attacked Monday, killing at least 10 Palestinians, including children, a Palestinian health official said. Israelis and the Palestinians traded blame for the strike. Children were playing on a swing when the strike hit the park in the Shati refugee camp on the edge of Gaza City, said Ayman Sahabani, head of the emergency room at nearby Shifa Hospital. He gave the death toll and said 46 people also were wounded. The strike on the park occurred a few minutes after the hospital's outpatient clinic was hit, leaving several people wounded. Camera crews were prevented from filming the area of impact at Shifa. Gaza's police operations room, Civil Defense and Sahabani said the deaths and injuries were caused by Israeli airstrikes. Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, an Israeli army spokesman, denied Israel was involved. "This incident was carried out by Gaza terrorists whose rockets fell short and hit the Shifa Hospital and the Beach (Shati) camp," he said. The strikes occurred on a day of heavy fighting after a temporary humanitarian cease-fire as international efforts intensified to end the three-week war between Israel and Hamas militants. Israeli jets struck several sites in Gaza and rockets continued to fall on Israel, the Israeli military said, disrupting a relative lull in the Gaza war at the start of a major Muslim holiday. The United Nations on Monday called for an "immediate" cease-fire in the fighting that has already killed over 1,040 Palestinians, 43 Israeli soldiers and three civilians on the Israeli side. On Sunday, President Barak Obama telephoned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to push for an immediate end to the conflict. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:55 AM " will only encourage Hamas criminality, with Israeli and Palestinian civilians themselves as the tragic victims. But of course this is what Musket, Jimmy, and Greggie WANT- More civilians killed so they can blame Israel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:45 AM Greggie boy Proof you cannot read: I posted: "Jimmy has already said that we cannot trust ANY statement by EITHER side," YOU said: "we cannot trust ANY statement by EITHER side Now YOU don't trust statements made by the unerring and ineffible Israli Government, Bullshot? " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:44 AM None of this is intended to suggest that Israel is somehow above the law or should not be held responsible for any violations of human rights or international humanitarian norms. The problem is that Israel is systematically denied equality before the law in the international arena. Israel must respect human rights, but the rights of Israel deserve equal respect. Simply put, human rights standards should be applied to Israel, but must be equally applied to all others, without the exculpatory immunity that major human rights violators – such as Hamas – currently enjoy. Unacceptably, the recent UN resolution ignores the fundamental distinction between a terrorist organization – indeed a terrorist government, like Hamas – committed to maximizing civilian casualties, both Israeli and Palestinian, and a democratic government that seeks to minimize Palestinian casualties while taking necessary measures to defend its own citizens in accordance with international law. Regrettably, this prejudicial and pernicious UN decision – let alone the prospective one-sided commission of inquiry – will only encourage Hamas criminality, with Israeli and Palestinian civilians themselves as the tragic victims. Irwin Cotler is a Member of the Canadian Parliament, and the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada. He is emeritus professor of law at McGill University in Montreal, has written extensively on war crimes law, and initiated the first prosecution under Canada's War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity Act. The UN, Hamas, and Alice in Wonderland |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM "The army shot artillery shells at Hamas targets, and one of the shells may have gone off course. " Yes, YOU should learn, if it it is not too late. HAMAS is certain that ALL casualties are caused by Israeli shells, and NEVER by rockets that are seen to hit Gaza. ISRAEL admits that SOME firing in combat may hit unintended targets. AND YOU BELIEVE and pass on the HAMAS PROPAGANDA. You are really something. Not a good something, but something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM we cannot trust ANY statement by EITHER side Now YOU don't trust statements made by the unerring and ineffible Israli Government, Bullshot? Have you lost your faith? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:36 AM WAIT until the UN VERIFIES it… Since when do you hold a brief for the UN, Bullshot? You've stated that they're just a bunch of slavering Anti-Semites and that their numerous resolutions against various Israeli atrocities are a smokescreen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:34 AM but an errant IDF artillery shell also may have hit the facility. Ya'ari also reported that one IDF shell struck the school Learn to read, Bullshot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:33 AM Or is this another "Israeli strike" by an Hamas anti-personnel rocket? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:32 AM Greggie boy, Jimmy has already said that we cannot trust ANY statement by EITHER side, so you have not presented any verifiable facts. WAIT until the UN VERIFIES it… |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:29 AM 10 killed in strike on park Associated Press 14 minutes ago GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A Palestinian health official says at least 10 people were killed and 46 wounded in an Israeli strike on a park in the Gaza Strip. Ayman Sahabani, the head of the emergency room at a nearby hospital, which also was hit, gave the casualty toll in Monday's strike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:28 AM NOW I see what Musket is all about. He has aspirations of great fame! Keep pushing the Hamas line, Musket old fellow. "United Kingdom to which William Joyce broadcast regularly, gaining the nickname 'Lord Haw-Haw' in the process. Joyce first appeared on German radio on 6 September 1939 reading the news in English but soon became noted for his often mischievous propaganda broadcasts.[103] Joyce was executed in 1946 for treason. Broadcasts were also made to the United States, notably through Robert Henry Best and 'Axis Sally' Mildred Gillars. Best, a freelance journalist based in Vienna, was initially arrested following the German declaration of war on the US but before long he became a feature on propaganda radio, attacking the influence of the Jews in the US and the leadership of Franklin Delano Roosevelt,[105] who succeeded Winston Churchill in Nazi propaganda as "World-Enemy Number One".[106] Best would later be sentenced to life imprisonment for treason. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:12 AM News flash, Greggie boy That school was hit by an HAMAS rocket, one of the 20-30% ( 400- 600 at least) that misfire and hit Gaza. NOW we see where all the comments about ANTI-PERSONNEL warheads are coming from. But I suppose you just can't let go of a good lie. " "UNRWA has admitted that a Hamas misfired rocket hit a U.N.-run school in Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza, according to Channel 2′s Ehud Ya'ari, but an errant IDF artillery shell also may have hit the facility, where Gaza sources claim an estimated 17 children and United Nations personnel were killed and 200 others were wounded Thursday afternoon. Other sources have said the death toll is closer to 10. Ya'ari also reported that one IDF shell struck the school, but this has not been verified. The IDF spokesman remarked, and UNRWA confirmed, that misfired Hamas rockets fell and exploded in the area of the Beit Hanoun school. The IDF also reported there was significant combat in that area, where Hamas has used schools and hospitals as terror bases. The army shot artillery shells at Hamas targets, and one of the shells may have gone off course. However, if even one of the explosions was a result of Hamas rockets, which seems to be the case, foreign media will have to throw up their hands in surrender to their constant attempt to show Israel as a mass murderer of innocent children. Israel was immediately blamed for supposedly bombing the school, and UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness jumped all over the IDF for the tragedy. Israel has made it clear that Hamas is responsible for any and all deaths." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 28 Jul 14 - 11:05 AM The 20-day war has killed more than 1,030 Palestinians, mainly civilians. Israel has lost two civilians. More than 160,000 displaced Palestinians have sought shelter at dozens of U.N. schools, an eight-fold increase since the start of Israel's ground operation more than a week ago, the U.N. said. Three Israeli tank shells hit the school in the town of Beit Hanoun on Thursday, killing 16 people and wounding scores. The school served as a shelter for Palestinians displaced by the Gaza fighting. Israeli airstrikes have destroyed hundreds of homes, including close to 500 in direct hits. Entire Gaza neighborhoods near the border have been reduced to rubble. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:47 AM To paraprase GregF, For you, I guess those school kids and innocent civilians don't count becuse they're not killed by Jews, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:44 AM The Institute for Palestine Studies published a detailed report on Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon in the summer of 2012. It reported that tunnel construction in Gaza has resulted in a large number of child deaths. "At least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials" But any Palestinians that were killed by HAMAS are not worth mentioning to you and Jimmy. You do not even consider them significant enough to acknowledge. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:41 AM Not even including the children HAMAS killed in order to make those tunnels TO PROTECT HAMAS rockets and assault squads. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:38 AM No, Musket. HAMAS has murdered over a thousand Palestinians, and almost 50 Israelis. Look at the numbers- Over 2000 Hamas rockets, 20-30% that fall in Gaza. 400 to 600 HAMAS antipersonnel rockets hitting Gaza, randomly. No shelters, since HAMAS used the building materials and concrete to make all those tunnels. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Musket Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:29 AM Just put of interest Goofus, nobody from The UK on these threads have shown any support for the aims of Hamas. Terribleus and his cronies have to say that to allow them to sleep at night as they cheer on Israeli terrorism and militant carnage. In the meantime, Israel have now murdered over 1,000 Palestinians. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:23 AM Cairo (AFP) - Egypt's army said Sunday it has destroyed 13 more tunnels connecting the Sinai Peninsula to the Gaza Strip, taking to 1,639 the overall number it has laid waste to. The Palestinian militant group Hamas, which is the main power in Gaza, reportedly uses the tunnels to smuggle arms, food and money into the blockaded coastal enclave. Israel has been waging a military offensive on Gaza since July 8 to halt rocket fire, and it launched a ground assault on July 17 aimed at destroying the network of tunnels. It accuses Hamas of using the tunnels to attacks on Israel. Ties between Hamas and Cairo have deteriorated since the Egyptian army deposed Morsi on July 3, 2013. Hamas is an affiliate of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood. Cairo also accuses of Hamas of being involved in militant attacks inside Egypt, which have multiplied since Morsi was toppled. Militant groups say their attacks are in retaliation for a police crackdown on Morsi's supporters. The crackdown has seen more than 1,400 people killed in street clashes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:21 AM http://www.businessinsider.com/idf-troops-show-what-its-like-inside-gaza-homes-rigged-with-bombs-2014-7 and http://news.yahoo.com/parsing-obamas-phone-call-netanyahu-222200115.html "In a phone call between the two men on Sunday, President Obama stressed several points, which could be divined in slightly contradictory lights (emphasis mine): The President underscored the United States' strong condemnation of Hamas' rocket and tunnel attacks against Israel and reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. The President also reiterated the United States' serious and growing concern about the rising number of Palestinian civilian deaths and the loss of Israeli lives, as well as the worsening humanitarian situation in Gaza. Building on Secretary Kerry's efforts, the President made clear the strategic imperative of instituting an immediate, unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that ends hostilities now and leads to a permanent cessation of hostilities based on the November 2012 ceasefire agreement. The President reaffirmed the United States' support for Egypt's initiative, as well as regional and international coordination to end hostilities. And then the kicker: "The President stressed the U.S. view that, ultimately, any lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict must ensure the disarmament of terrorist groups and the demilitarization of Gaza."" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:03 AM "No country would accept rockets from above and tunnels from below." Ban Ki-moon today. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: beardedbruce Date: 28 Jul 14 - 10:03 AM "UNRWA has admitted that a Hamas misfired rocket hit a U.N.-run school in Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza, according to Channel 2′s Ehud Ya'ari, but an errant IDF artillery shell also may have hit the facility, where Gaza sources claim an estimated 17 children and United Nations personnel were killed and 200 others were wounded Thursday afternoon. Other sources have said the death toll is closer to 10. Ya'ari also reported that one IDF shell struck the school, but this has not been verified. The IDF spokesman remarked, and UNRWA confirmed, that misfired Hamas rockets fell and exploded in the area of the Beit Hanoun school. The IDF also reported there was significant combat in that area, where Hamas has used schools and hospitals as terror bases. The army shot artillery shells at Hamas targets, and one of the shells may have gone off course. However, if even one of the explosions was a result of Hamas rockets, which seems to be the case, foreign media will have to throw up their hands in surrender to their constant attempt to show Israel as a mass murderer of innocent children. Israel was immediately blamed for supposedly bombing the school, and UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness jumped all over the IDF for the tragedy. Israel has made it clear that Hamas is responsible for any and all deaths. Foreign news agencies already have blamed Israel and have published gory pictures of the aftermath of the attacks, which came a day after U.N. Secretary-General Ban-Ki moon expressed "alarm" that 20 rockets were found for the second time in a UNRWA school but that they had "gone missing." … Approximately 20-30 percent of Hamas rockets have landed or exploded inside Gaza, and Channel 10 television said that UNRWA, after having spewed out anger at the IDF, has confirmed that Hamas was the source of the attacks. UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness, who has been strangely subdued about not knowing that rockets were hidden in at least two UNRWA schools – and that number is certainly much larger – turned up the volume with his usual anti-Israel condemnation over the bombing of the school. Gunness told Israel Radio that UNRWA tried to coordinate with the IDF during the day to leave a window open for civilians to leave the school, but that request "never was granted." He tweeted, "Precise co-ordinates of the UNRWA shelter in Beit Hanoun had been formally given to the Israeli army." He has not had too much to say about the rockets that "have gone missing." His boss U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who was not so worried that the first batch of rockets found in a UNRWA school last week was turned over to Hamas, now is furious that no one knows who picked up the second batch. A wild guess might be, possibly, maybe, that they went back to their rightful owners, Hamas. "Those responsible are turning schools into potential military targets, and endangering the lives of innocent children," Ban stated. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 09:23 AM But never mind the nuanced discussion or grey areas. Pro-Palestinian rallies are now rampant with anti-Semitism that doesn't even bother pretend to be something else. The bigger problem is that pro-Palestinians who are not participating in this shameful hatred are absolutely silent. They feel no need to condemn the perpetrators, let alone eject them from their movement. Yet the reputations of some major Canadian institutions and individuals depend on doing the right thing here. Trade unions like CUPE Ontario and the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, liberal Christians including the United Church of Canada, peace groups and university student unions have endorsed the pro-Palestinian narrative, an ideology that is now unambiguously linked with Jew-hatred. Legitimate organizations should have known they were playing with fire from the start. The anti-Israel movement has always attracted the most extreme fringe elements. It was probably inevitable that those who are motivated by bias toward Jews would soil the movement when push came to shove. But now that the moment has come, what will the movement's legitimate allies in labour, churches and activist circles do about it? ============================================================================================================================================ Now that pro-Palestinian activists are chanting "death to the Jews" and "Hitler should have finished the job," that is no longer really a debate. Jew-hatred is at least part of the fuel that has blown this comparatively minor regional conflict into the biggest obsession in geopolitics. Squawking about Israel drowns out every other cause on the planet, clogs the United Nations with ceaseless anti-Israel motions and eclipses global awareness of conflicts that have claimed millions more victims. The pro-Palestinian movement has a problem it needs to acknowledge and address. And so now do the erstwhile legitimate organizations that have jumped on its bandwagon. Until they confront the Jew-hatred in their own house, they have no credibility speaking out on injustice elsewhere. Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Opinion+Anti+Semitism+infiltrating+protests/10067321/story.html?__federated=1#ixzz38lkdAmH1 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 09:14 AM "Motre like fucked, Boo." I agree Greg, Hamas are fucked. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 09:06 AM The Meir Amit Intelligence and Information Center found, on July 23, that 775 people had been killed in Gaza, of whom 229 were militants or terrorists (135 Hamas, 60 Islamic Jihad, 34 from other terror organizations); 267 were civilians; and 279 could not yet be classified. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 28 Jul 14 - 08:49 AM "In fact," he wrote, "more than two-thirds of the fatalities are males aged 18 to 60, despite the fact that they represent around 20% of Gaza's population." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 06:08 AM "someone keeps posting Hamas slanted articles from an Irish paper(shame on them)" The Irish Times has a reputation for being antisemitic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 28 Jul 14 - 06:04 AM Many of the Palestinian figures subsequently quoted, by the UN and other international organizations, "are not worth the paper they're written on," Reuven Erlich, the director of the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, told The Times of Israel. "They're based mostly on Palestinian sources in Gaza, who have a vested interest in showing that we're killing many civilians." His center, he said, thoroughly researches the casualties. In order to ascertain an accurate identity of the dead, the center's staff researches the person's background on Palestinian websites and searches for information about their funerals and for other hints that could shed light on the person's true occupation. The authorities in Gaza generally count every young man who did not wear a uniform as a civilian — even if he was involved in terrorist activity and was therefore considered by the IDF a legitimate target, military sources said. | The Times of Israel When numbers in Gaza masquerade as fact |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 28 Jul 14 - 05:00 AM I think Teribus hit on something, smack in the middle. I've noticed that the biggest Hamas sympathizers on here, are from the U.K., and someone keeps posting Hamas slanted articles from an Irish paper(shame on them)..and in the U.K. you all tend to listen to the BBC, and therefore the bias that a lot of you may have, is because you're believing your media at face value...and NOT considering an objective narrative. You may also notice, that in the U.K., that the BBC influences parallel with Obama's dealings. It is widely seen, the U.S., that Obama's Administration is the most hostile to Israel, of any Administration since 1947, when the U.N. gave land to Israel..(I suspect you all know the story.) I suggest that those who normally watch the BBC, try watching another source, and just listen. Chances are you'll be pissed off....but that will only be because your used to the story, with the biased delivery of it, and some of which, have assimilated their 'upside down', view of it all, but are being 'talked out' of their 'Common Sense'. That's why when I first came one here, I pointed out about teaching people HOW to think... as opposed to WHAT to think!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Teribus Date: 28 Jul 14 - 02:08 AM "War crimes my arse - the Palestinians wouldn't register on the Richter scale next to your boyos" - Christmas Ehmmm not from the want of trying their utmost Christmas old chap. Gaza indeed would have been a far, far better place had the Palestinians who lived there in 2005 stuck to their side of the bargain and stopped attacks on Israeli civilians. Had they done so then all border crossings would have remained open along with work opportunities inside Israel. They bleat about the lack of this and the lack of that due to Israeli and Egyptian blockades restricting "humanitarian" aid and essential supplies, yet for some rather weird reason they seem to have no problem at all "importing" Grad Rockets supplied by Iran to fire into Israel to targets at ever increasing ranges - strange that isn't it Christmas? The BBC's biased reporting of the current conflict is typical as they challenge every single thing stated by any Israeli spokesperson while they pander to and simper at the unadulterated propaganda spouted by Hamas (Mind you that might have a great deal to do with the fact that if the questioning of Hamas spokespersons got a bit pointed the person asking those questions might find themselves being given a private flying lesson from the roof of a nearby building). The question I would ask any Hamas spokesperson would be: "Please draw for me what you would consider to be the acceptable borders of the States of Palestine and Israel in this "Two State Solution" that you purport to be fighting for." It would be a request that would receive no answer from that particular quarter as they deny Israel the right of existence - period. And that Christmas is why there will never be any meaningful talks or peace settlement for as long as that Hamas attitude prevails. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 27 Jul 14 - 10:15 PM Oh well...2000! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: GUEST,hw Date: 27 Jul 14 - 09:45 PM one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 27 Jul 14 - 09:31 PM Motre like fucked, Boo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 27 Jul 14 - 08:52 PM "what about the 800 and counting civilian oops-es perpetrated by FIXED! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Greg F. Date: 27 Jul 14 - 07:08 PM Hey, Boo - what about the 800 and counting civilian oops-es perpetrated by Israel? For you, I guess those school kids and innocent civilians don't count becuse they're not Jewish, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 27 Jul 14 - 04:17 PM MAJOR NEWS OUT OF ISRAEL: It was an errant Hamas rocket that hit the UN school, ooooops UNRWA has admitted that a Hamas misfired rocket hit a U.N.-run school in Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza, according to Channel 2′s Ehud Ya'ari, but an errant IDF artillery shell also may have hit the facility, where Gaza sources claim an estimated 17 children and United Nations personnel were killed and 200 others were wounded Thursday afternoon. Ooooops |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 27 Jul 14 - 01:51 PM Hey, Don't you think Hamas wants peace, under U.N. recognition??? Jim Carroll: ""Reminds me of 'Psychic Vampires' hovering over dead carcasses, and hoping the war brings more of them." Nice picture GfS - just about sums up the views I was describing" Yes, but I was describing the arguing going on in here. Idiots want something to 'debate', and if people being killed, either side, gives them the entertainment of yakking about it, they'll go for it...all in the name of humanitarianism!!!....or putting it simpler, politics, and who 'knows' more and on the 'right side'!...and then they argue that self defense is immoral!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 27 Jul 14 - 11:26 AM My 8.10 referred to deleted posts |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 27 Jul 14 - 08:43 AM http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Terrorists-fire-anti-tank-missile-from-Al-Wafa-hospital-368818 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 27 Jul 14 - 08:10 AM Using someone else's name makes you a devious liar of the worst and shittiest kind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 27 Jul 14 - 07:40 AM No Keith some of the most bloodthisty posts in this debate have come from you But you are still unable to post an example, because it is bollocks. I was particularly impressed by the ones from you advocating that it was acceptable to fire thousands of tiny darts into the flesh of non-combatant men women and children That is another lie, and a very nasty one. Or can you produce such a post? No. Just a lie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: bobad Date: 27 Jul 14 - 07:08 AM Hamas's offensive tunnels should not be confused with the burrows it has dug under Gaza's border with Egypt to smuggle money, consumer goods and military equipment. The newly discovered structures have only one conceivable purpose: to launch attacks inside Israel. Three times in recent days, Hamas fighters emerged from the tunnels in the vicinity of Israeli civilian communities, which they clearly aimed to attack. The concrete-lined structures are stocked with materials, such as handcuffs and tranquilizers, that could be used on hostages. Other tunnels in northern Gaza are designed for the storage and firing of missiles at Israeli cities. The resources devoted by Hamas to this project are staggering, particularly in view of Gaza's extreme poverty. By one Israeli account, the typical tunnel cost $1 million to build over the course of several years, using tons of concrete desperately needed for civilian housing. By design, many of the tunnels have entrances in the heavily populated Shijaiyah district, where the Israeli offensive has been concentrated. One was found underneath al-Wafa hospital, where Hamas also located a command post and stored weapons, according to Israeli officials. Washington Post |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Jim Carroll Date: 27 Jul 14 - 05:57 AM "Reminds me of 'Psychic Vampires' hovering over dead carcasses, and hoping the war brings more of them." Nice picture GfS - just about sums up the views I was describing Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 27 Jul 14 - 05:39 AM What's all this 'blood-thirty' stuff? Reminds me of 'Psychic Vampires' hovering over dead carcasses, and hoping the war brings more of them... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine From: Jim Carroll Date: 27 Jul 14 - 05:31 AM No Keith some of the most bloodthisty posts in this debate have come from you I was particularly impressed by the ones from you advocating that it was acceptable to fire thousands of tiny darts into the flesh of non-combatant men women and children because because the rules of war (disgustingly inhuman in their own right) allowed it - not to mention the destruction of hospitals, schools, medical centres, homes - and the wanton slaughter of 1000 plus human beings. Measures pretty insignificant next to my feeble attempts at satire. Still, we all have our different values - your is religious and political extremism, mine is humanity. Jim Carroll |