Subject: Sam Henry collection From: Philippa Date: 03 Dec 98 - 06:26 AM I've been recommending the Sam Henry collection as a source for songs in a few different threads, and have seen others refer to it. So I got a bit of information from Ulstersongs Publishers, Portrush, Co Antrim, N Ireland. Presumably the U. of Georgia publication is available in the US too, though I only have the prices in sterling: Sam Henry collection, info. from Ulstersongs website: Sam Henry's "Songs of the People": (ISBN 0 8203 1258 4): edited by Gale Huntington, Lani Herrman with contributions from John Moulden. (University of Georgia Press) "Songs of the People" was a series which ran from 1923 to 1939 in the Coleraine newspaper "The Northern Constitution". For twelve of those years the editor was Sam Henry who contributed upwards of 500 songs of high quality. Previously highly regarded but known only from scrapbook copies compiled by Sam Henry for the Belfast Public Library, The National Library of Ireland and the Library of Congress, this, the first book publication, has been presented with the music in staff notation, an introduction, notes and references and extensive indices. The basic collection for the North of Ireland. HARDBACK and dust cover: £30.00 + £5.00 p&p PAPERBACK £11.00 + £4.00 p&p (Original price: (paperback) £27.00 (hardback) £54.00) Forthcoming: Songs of the People: Part Two: From 1928-1932 the newspaper series founded by Sam Henry was edited by others. This book, researched and designed by John Moulden, draws on the newspaper archive, the personal papers and memories of one of the collectors and incorporates additional local information. The plagiarism of one of the editors is proven and fully described.The roughly 100 songs, which were not pirated, were collected in Antrim, Derry and Donegal and are presented with musical notation, notes and references and even a few pictures. approx. 160 pages, Price approx. £12, publication intended 1998, more information later. (Ulstersongs, Portrush, N. Ireland) I don't know just what the code of conduct is for advertising on Mudcat, but I don't have any financial interest in these books. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Alice Date: 03 Dec 98 - 09:24 AM Hey, thanks, Philippa. I've been looking for a copy for over a year. The library here said it was not available to loan out of state at the libraries in the US that had a copy. alice |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Bruce O. Date: 03 Dec 98 - 02:56 PM John Moulden also has books and recordings of Irish folk songs and music for sale. His website URL is members.aol.com/jmoul81075/ulstsong.htm |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Dan Keding Date: 03 Dec 98 - 04:02 PM Songs of the People by Sam Henry, University of Georgia Press, ISBN 0-8203-1259-2 |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Dec 98 - 04:12 AM Bookstores told me the book is out of print in the U.S., but I was able to get a copy this year from Down Home Music. They had a few copies in stock. It cost me $42.50 US for the hardcover edition. Good book. It may be identified as Sam Henry's Songs of the People, edited by Gale Huntington, revised by Lani Herrmann, and indexed with the aid of John Moulden. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: John Moulden Date: 16 Oct 99 - 07:08 AM I do have copies of this book for sale (hardback and paperback) but it's a big book and expensive to post. Lani Herrmann has hb copies and supplies them in North America. I'll assist anyone who wishes to e-mail me at jmoul81075@aol,com |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Lorraine Date: 16 Oct 99 - 10:18 AM It's a wonderful book! I believe I bought my copy from Dan Milner in a tour in Washington. What news about the Part 2? Not as an exciting time period but sounds fasinating. -Lorraine |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: John Moulden Date: 17 Oct 99 - 09:09 AM Part two - the songs which were published in the newspaper series "Songs of the People" at a time between 1928 and 1932 when Sam Henry was ill. They were edited by several other hands and did not form part of his collection. They are all in my possession, also the fair-copy notebooks of one of the editors together with notes on the singers and the circumstances under which they were heard, made by him at my behest. This the next priority after I have cleared up a pience of work for which I have been promised payment but which is proving more exacting than I thought it would. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Lani H. Date: 24 Oct 99 - 07:12 AM Sorry I'm a bit tardy, but have just begun to catch up with the really Interesting Stuff. I appreciate very much Philippa's good opinion, and wish to add that I still have available some copies of the clothbound edition (the same ones that DownHome and Dan Milner were kindly distributing), with a nice dust jacket and the maps and colophon the publisher left out. Please email me for details: calani@netcom.com. I hasten to add that, although I *do* have a direct, if minor, financial interest in these books, like my friend-and-colleague John Moulden I take considerable satisfaction in being able to find good homes for the remainders.
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Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: Liam's Brother Date: 24 Oct 99 - 09:53 AM Hi! Songs of the People is unquestionably the finest collection of Irish folk songs. There is no competition being staged on this matter, of course. It just simply is the finest. First, there is a tremendous number of songs. Second, despite the fact that they were collected in a single region, there is a great amount of diversity - native Irish songs and songs of foreign origin: Scotland, England, North American. Third, the work that went into organizing, annotating and presenting the songs is truly first rate. If you really love Irish folk songs, you must have this book. Lani and John have copies at less than the original price. What more do you need?
All the best, |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry collection From: GUEST,weerover Date: 09 Aug 04 - 03:41 AM Finally got my hands on "Songs of the People" as a birthday present from my wife. She's very happy with the service she got from John Moulden: this corresponds with positive comments from elsewhere. wr. |
Subject: INDEX- Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Jan 09 - 10:36 PM Sam Henry's Songs of the People is a quarto volume of over 600 pages. The posts here are a beginning of an index; the material will be revised for the Irish Song Book Permathread. SAM HENRY'S SONGS OF THE PEOPLE Edited by Gale Huntington, revised by Lani Herrmann, Geographical index by John Moulden, 1990, 632pp., Univ. Georgia Press, Athens(GA) and London. Ballads and songs first published in the "Northern Constitution" between 1923-1939. Tunes (Melodic Index) are indexed by First-phase Accents. Original sources and geographic location are also indexed. The main index of songs is by first word, with title, alternate titles and first lines. It requires some familiarity with the indexing systems and subject matter. Example: Lough [... Erin's Shore] (H597) 476 ... Erne Shore (H597) 476 [Erne's Shore] (m) (H43) 394 [Foyle, Banks of] (m) (H11) 110 [... Foyle] (m) (H2) 215 ...Neagh, The Banks of Sweet (H158) 295 All songs are indexed by subject at the beginning of the volume. This will be the preliminary index posted here. Alternate titles not included. SONGS A1. Come let us all begin: Old choir rhymes Abbey 2 Dublin/Coleshill 2 Dundee 2 French 2 Mary's 2 Martyrs 3 York 3 Newto[w]n Additional verses 3 A1 References 4 A2. Rockin' the cradle is nae work, ava: Lullabies Heezh Ba 6 Hush Alee 6 Ballyeamon Cradle Song 6 Irish Lullaby for the Christ-Child 7 Lullaby for a Sailor's Child 7 Raven-Locks 7 A2 References 8 I am the Master 10 Green Gravel 10 Ring a Ring o' Roses 10 Water, Water, Wallflowers 11 I'll Tell My Ma 11 Here's a Poor Widow 11 Old Sally Walker 11 Broken Bridges 11 Fair Rosa/The Sleeping Beauty 12 How Many Miles to Babyland? 12 Cricketty Wee 12 A3 References A4. Once I had a wee hen: Animals, hunting, racing A Child's Lullaby 17 The Little White Cat 17 My Bonnie Wee Hen 17 The Bonny Brown Hen 18 Neil Flaherty's Drake 18 The Duck from Drummuck 19 The Lost Birdies/The Hobe and the Robin 20 Robin Redbreast's Testament 20 The Goat's Will 21 Matty Broon's Soo 22 The Moneygran Pig Hunt 22 Bellaghy Fair 23 Sport's Lament 23 The Heifer 24 The "Crummy" Cow 25 The Mayogall Asses 26 Seal Song 27 The Crocodile 28 The Fox and His Wife 29 The Hunting Priest 29 Squire Agnew's Hunt 30 The Hare of Kilgrain 31 The Hare's Dream 31 The Clady River Water Bailiffs 32 A Ballad of Master M'Gra[th] 32 Cashel Green (II) 33 Arthur Bond 34 Spanking Maggie from the Ross 35 A4 References 36 A5. By the heat of my brow; Occupations, lifestyle Waulking Song 39 The Tailor Boy 39 The Cobbler 40 Jim, the Carman Land 40 My Rattlin' Oul' Grey Mare 41 My Irish Jaunting Car 41 The Farmer 41 The Rocks of Bawn 42 The Charity Seed/We Never Died in the Winter Yet 43 The Lint Pullin' 43 The Jolly Thresher 44 As a King Went A-Hunting 44 Shanty Boy 45 The Shepherd Laddie 45 The Thatchers of Glenrea 46 The Dandy Chignon 47 Long Cookstown/Nancy Whiskey 47 The Jug of Punch 48 A Cup o' Tay 48 The Black Pipe 49 The Rakes of Poverty 50 The Oul' Rigadoo 50 Old Rosin the Bow 51 Bryan O'Lynn 52 The State of Arkansaw 53 Denny Byrne, the Piper 53 The Sailor in the Alehouse 54 The Private Still 55 Mick Magee 56 My Grandfather Died 57 The Buttermilk Boy 57 O'Ryan 58 The Jolly Fisherman 59 Songs of Old Ireland 59 The Salutation 60 Fine Broom Besoms! 61 Better Bide a Wee 61 Gaol Song 62 The Bramble 62 The Leaves So Green 63 Dun Ceithern 63 Barossa/Oliver's Advice 64 The Yellow Bittern/An Bunnan Buidhe 64 The Parting Glass 65 A 5 References 65 A6. If you want a bit of fun: Celebrations Dan Murphy's Convoy 72 The Wedding at Ballyporeen 72 The Ballinderry Marriage 73 Coleraine Regatta 74 The Lammas Fair in Cargan 75 On the Road to Bethlehem 76 A6 References 77 A7. The Irish soldier boy: War The Shepherd Boy 79 My Parents Reared Me Tenderly 79 The Black Horse 80 Pat Reilly 80 Pat Muldoney 81 You Broken-Hearted Heroes 81 Lovely Sally 82 The Deserter 83 Bonny Woodha' 84 My Son Ted 84 Lovely Jamie 85 The Hungry Army 86 The Plains of Waterloo (I) The Plains of Waterloo (II) The Drummer Boy at Waterloo The Bonny Light Horseman 88 The Irish Soldier Boy 89 The Three Flowers of Chivalry 89 The Heights of Alma 90 Balaclava 91 Old Ireland Far Away 92 A7 References 92 A8. Bound away to the west'rd: Sea Kishmul's Galley 96 Sailors' Shanties 96 It's Time for Us to Leave Her 96 Tom's Gone to Ilo 96 Santy Anna 96 Paddy Doyle 97 I'm Going Home 97 The Girls of Valparaiso 97 The S[team]s[hip] Leinster Lass 98 The Cruise of the Calabar The Zared 99 Yellow Meal 100 The Shamrock Shore 101 Patrick O'Neal 102 The Sailor Boy 103 Franklin the Brave 103 The Loss of Seven Clergymen 104 The Portrush Fishing Disaster (I) 105 The Portrush Fishing Disaster (II) 105 The Wreck of the Enterprise 106 The Falcon The Wreck of the Fanad Boat 107 The Wreck of the Nimrod 108 The Loss of the Royal Charter 109 The Trader 110 The Wreck of the Rebecca 111 The Good Ship Mary Cochrane 111 The Banks of Newfoundland 112 The French Privateer 112 Captain Coulston 113 A8 References 114 A9. A bold undaunted youth: Crime Botany Bay 119 The Boston Burglar 119 The Wild Colonial Boy 120 Eight Mile Bridge 121 Whiskey in the Jar 122 Waltzing Matilda 122 Heather Jock 123 Jamie Raeburn's Farewell 124 James Magee 125 John Mitchel's Farewell to His Countrymen (a) 125 John Mitchell (b) 126 Hugh Hill, the Ramoan Smuggler 127 The Three Huntsmen/Wilson, Gilmore and Johnson 128 The Crafty Ploughboy 129 Shane Crossagh 130 The Breaking of Omagh Jail 131 The Dreary Gallows 132 Lambkin 133 A9 References 134 A10. Deep and dead water: Death, laments, ghosts The Bard of Culnady/Charles O'Neill 139 Finvola, the Gem of the Roe 139 Heilan'Jane 140 An Irish Mother's Lament 140 The Cowboy of Loreto 141 John McKeown and Margaret Deans 141 Annie Moore 142 Molly Bawn Lowry 143 A Collier Lad 144 My Lowlands, Away 144 Mary's Dream 144 The Nightingale (I) Willie Lennox 146 Sloan Wellesley 147 James Kennedy 147 Miss Cochrane 148 Rachel Dear/The Maine Water Side 148 Polly Primrose 149 Holland Is a Fine Place 149 Susan on the Beach 150 A10 References 151 B11. Erin, my country: Praise of home The Little Thatched Cabin 156 The Old Stone Wall 156 Old Arboe 157 The Hills o' Ballyboley 157 Ballycastle, O! 158 Ballymonan Brae 159 Benbradden Brae 159 The Braes of Carnanbane 160 Carnlough Shore 160 Beautiful Churchill 161 The Girls from [Dt, Wt: of] Coleraine 161 The Maids of Downhill 162 Dungiven Priory Church 162 Faughanvale 163 Bonny Garrydoo 164 Glenariffe 164 Glenelly 165 Lovely Glenshesk (I) 165 Old Inishowen 166 Kearney's Glen 166 The Shores of Sweet Kilhoyle 167 Knocklayde 168 Lochaber Shore 168 Mountsandel 169 Mudion River 169 Oville 170 The Peistie Glen 170 Bonny Portrush 171 The River Roe (I) 171 The River Roe (II) 171 Slieve Gallen Brae 172 Fair Tyrone 173 Among the Green Bushes [Bp, Dp: in Sweet Tyrone] 174 Where Derry Meets Tyrone 174 The Land of the West 175 Old Ireland 175 Erin, My Country 176 The Enchanted Isle 176 The Mac's and the O's 177 The Connaught Man 177 The Rocky Road to Dublin 178 Dungiven Cricket Match 179 March of the Men of Garvagh 180 Ta Ra, Limavady 180 The Knights of Malta 180 The Bright Orange Stars of Coleraine 181 The Boys of Coleraine 182 Neuve Chappelle 182 B11 References 182 (To be continued) |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 Jan 09 - 04:30 PM SAM HENRY'S SONGS OF THE PEOPLE Continued- B12. The emigrant's farewell: Goodbye home Lovely Armoy 186 Monk McClamont's "Farewell to Articlave" 186 Hannah M'Kay/The Pride of Artikelly 187 Farewell, Ballycastle 188 Carnanbane 188 Carntogher's Braes 189 The Flower of Craiganee 189 The Hills of Tandragee 190 My Girl from Donegal 190 The Flower of Sweet Dunmull 191 The Faughan Side 191 Finn Waterside 192 Gelvin Burn 192 Glenrannel's Plains 193 Farewell to Sweet Glenravel 193 The Glenshesk Waterside 194 Lovely Glenshesk (IIa) 194 In Praise of the Glen 195 The Brow of Sweet Knocklayd 196 Owenreagh's Banks 196 The Point Maid 197 Adieu to the Banks of the Roe 197 Farewell to Slieve Gallen 198 The Hills of Tyrone 199 Bonny, Bonny 199 Knox's Farewell 200 The Emigrant's Farewell 200 The Happy Shamrock Shore 201 The Brown-Haired Lass (a) 201 The Brown-Haired Lass (b) 202 Paddy's Green Countrie 203 The Shamrock Sod No More 203 B12 References 204 B13. The Call of home: Longing for home Norah McShane 207 The Old Blacksmith's Shop 207 The Little Old Mud Cabin on the Hill 207 The Green Hills of Antrim 208 Cloughwater/The Shamrock Shore 208 The Coleraine Girl 209 Oh, Derry, Derry, Dearie Me 209 The Hills of Donegal 210 Drumglassa Hill 210 The Happy Green Shades of Duneanne 211 Oul' Dunloy 211 Sweet Glenbush 212 Glen O'Lee 212 The Pretty Three-Leaved Shamrock from Glenore 213 Juberlane 213 Sweet Loughgiel 214 Maguire's Brae 214 Where Myola Waters Flow 215 Mullaghdoo 215 Old Maid of Mullaghmore 216 Owenreagh 217 The Banks of the Roe 218 A Shamrock from Tiree 218 The Call of Home 219 Och, Och, Erie, O! 219 There's a Dear Spot in Ireland 220 Riding Herd at Night 220 Charlie Jack's Dream 221 The Irishman 221 B13 References 222 C14. She's a lovely fair: Praise of a girl Happy 'Tis, Thou Blind, for Thee 225 My Bonny Breeden 225 O, Jeanie Dear 225 Bonny Mary Hay 226 So Like Your Song and You 226 Not the Swan on the Lake 227 Nancy, the Pride of the West 227 The Maid of Erin's Isle 228 Peggy of the Moor 228 Mary M'Veagh 229 The Holly Bough/The Pride of Altibrine 229 The Maid of Burndennet (a) 230 The Maid of Burndennet (b) 231 Kate of Coleraine 231 Kate of Glenkeen 231 The Star of Glenamoyle 232 The Flower of Glenleary 232 The Flower of Gortade 233 A Kintyre Love Song 234 The Manchester Angel 234 Mary Smith, the Maid of Mountain Plain 235 Autumn Dusk/Coimfeasgar Fogmair 235 The Dear-a-Wee Lass 236 The Valley Below 236 The Dark-Haired Girl 237 Braiding Her Glossy Black Hair 237 The Old Dun Cow 238 Gragalmachree 238 The Maid of Altaveedan 239 Jean of Ballinagarvey 239 The Flower of Benbrada 239 The Beauty of the Braid 240 The Maid from the Carn Brae 241 Claudy Green (b) 241 Maggie of Coleraine 242 The Flower of Corby Mill 242 The Flower of Magherally, O! 243 Magilligan 244 The Valleys of Screen 245 Summer Hill 245 The Maid from the County Tyrone 246 Her Bonny Blue E'e 246 Rosaleen Bawn 247 The Blazing Star of Drim (a) 247 The Blazing Star of Drung (b) Ann o' Drumcroon 248 The Pride of Glenelly 249 Mary, the Pride of Killowen 250 Moorlough Mary 250 C14 References 251 C15. Where's the lass to take my hand? Courtship and dalliance Nae Bonnie Laddie tae Tak' Me Awa' 255 Maidens of Sixty-Three 255 The Black Chimney Sweeper 256 The Wee Article 257 Roger's Courtship 257 Grandma's Advice 258 The Nonsense o' Men 258 As I Go I Sing 259 The Strands of Magilligan 259 Green Grow the Rashes (a) 260 Green Grow the Rashes (b) 260 The Young Farmer's Offer 261 The Load of Kail Plants 261 An Irish Serenade 262 You're Welcome as the Flowers in May 262 Magherafelt Hiring Fair 263 The Roving Bachelor (a) 263 The Roving Bachelor (b) 264 The Whistling Thief 264 The Feckless Lover 265 The Rie in the Creel 265 I'm Seventeen 'gin Sunday 266 As I Gaed ower a Whinny Knowe 267 The Rambling Suiler 268 A Beggarman Cam' ower the Lea 269 The Galway Shawl 269 Where the Moorcocks Crow 269 The Maid of Seventeen 270 Cloughmills Fair 270 O'er the Moor amang the Heather 271 The Whinny Knowes 272 The Captain with the Whiskers 273 Youghall Harbour 273 The Cup of Gold 273 The Mountain Road 274 The Woods of Mountsandel 275 The Ould Lammas Fair 275 The Star of Moville 276 Mind Your Eye 277 The Basket of Oysters 278 Tumbling Through the Hay 278 C15 References 279 C16. I will watch and pray: Faithful farewells The Londonderry Air 286 Down in My Sally's Garden 286 Early, Early 287 The Green Banks of Banna 287 A Sweetheart's Appeal to Her Lover/[Dt:] Oh, It's down Where the Water Runs Muddy 288 My Sailor Boy 288 The Drinaun D[h]un 289 The Boatman/Fear a Bhata 289 A Rathlin Song 290 Bring Back My Barney to Me 290 Linton Lowrie 291 The Sea-Apprentice 291 My True Love's Gone A-Sailing 292 So Dear Is My Charlie to Me 292 The Jolly Roving Tar 293 Alt[i]mover Stream 293 Fare Ye Well, Enniskillen 294 My [Bt: The] Dear Irish Boy 294 The Banks of Sweet Lough Neagh 295 The Banks of the Nile 296 Johnnie and Molly 297 The Bold Privateer 297 The Maid of Dunyshiel 298 The Maid of Carrowclare 298 The Blooming Star of Eglintown 299 Love's Parting/Jamie and Mary 300 Dobbin's Flowery Vale 300 Londonderry Love Song 301 The Maids of Culmore 302 C16 References 302 (To be continued) |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Jan 09 - 01:52 PM SAM HENRY'S SONGS OF THE PEOPLE continued C17. It's I am your Jamie: The returned lover The Banished Lover 207 Learmount Grove 307 Mary Machree 308 James Reilly 309 Skerry's Blue-Eyed Jane 309 The Banks of the Clyde/One Fine Summer's Morning 310 Mary Doyle/The Wreck of the Lady Sherbrooke 310 Laurel Hill/Kyle's Flowery Braes 311 The Lady of the Lake 312 The Banks of Claudy 313 The Banks of [the] Dee 314 The Mantle So Green 314 Johnny Jarmin/The Rainbow 315 Mary and Willie 315 Lurgan Town 316 The Broken Ring 317 Green Garden 317 The Dark-Eyed Sailor 318 The Love Token 318 The Pride of Glencoe 319 The Banks of the River Ness 319 Jennie of the Moor 320 Bordon's Grove 320 C17 References 321 C18. In man's array: Disguises The Drummer Maid 326 On Board of a Man-of-War 326 The Drum Major 327 The Female Highwayman 327 The Squire's Bride 328 Lovely Annie (II) 328 The Rich Merchant's Daughter 329 The Sailor on the Sea 330 The True Lover's Departure 331 The Jolly Ploughboy 331 Blythe and Bonny Scotland/[Dt:] India's Burning Sands 332 Canada[,] Hi! Ho! 333 Willie Taylor (a) 334 Willie Taylor (b) 334 C18 References 335 C19. Youth and folly: Love uncertain The Six Sweethearts 340 I've Two or Three Strings to My Bow (a) 340 I've Two or Three Strings to My Bow (b) 341 One Morning Clear 341 The Maid of Tardree 342 Dark-Eyed Molly 342 Farewell Ballymoney 343 The Sweet Bann Water 343 The Rejected Lover 344 The Banks of Mourne Strand 344 Fair Maid of Glasgow Town 345 The Ploughboy 345 The Blackbird and the Thrush 346 Farewell He 347 The Cuckoo 347 If I Were a Fisher 348 The Star of Benbradden 348 I Am a Wee Laddie, Hard, Hard Is My Fate 349 C19 References 349 C20. She will not condescend: Love unrequited John MacAnanty's Courtship 354 Paddy Land 354 Claudy Green (a) 355 The Maid of Croaghmore 355 The Bonnie Wee Lass of the Glen 356 As I Walked Out 357 Farewell, Darling 357 Will Ye Pad the Road wi' Me? 358 The Maid of Cragienorn 359 Lurgan Stream (a) 360 Lurgan Stream (b) 360 Castleroe Mill 361 The Banks of Kilrea (II) 361 The True Lovers' Discussion 362 The Maid of the Sweet Brown Knowe 364 Cahan's Shade Glen 364 Fair Maid of Ballyagan 365 The Grey Mare 365 I'll Hang My Harp on a Willow Tree 366 Te Bonnet sae Blue 367 Tarry Trousers 367 The Factory Girl 368 Campbell's Mill 368 The Maid of Faughan Vale 369 Wester Snow 369 Drummond's Land 370 My Charming Kate O'Neill 370 The Maid of Mourne Shore 371 The Girl from Turfahun 372 The Lass of Mohee 372 The Lakes of Ponchartrain 373 Am I the Doctor? 374 Barbara Allen 375 C20 References 376 |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Jan 09 - 03:27 PM SAM HENRY'S SONGS OF THE PEOPLE Continuation C21. Content in the arms of another: Love unfaithful The Ripest of Apples 383 The False Lover 383 The Bonny Bushes Bright 383 Willie Angler/The Banks of the Bann 384 Lovely Nancy 385 Under the Shade of a Bonny Green Tree 385 Must I Go Bound (a) 386 Must I Go Bound (b) 386 Phelimy Phil 386 Norah Magee 387 The Broken-Hearted Gardener 387 Gramachree 388 Belfast Mountains 389 My Love John 389 My Flora and I 390 The Flower of Sweet Strabane 390 Bring Me Back the Boy I Love (a) 391 Never Change the Old Love for tjhe New 392 Oh, Johnny, Johnny 392 The Apron of Flowere 393 The Bonny, Bonny Boy 393 The Maid with the Bonny Brown Hair (a) 394 The Maid with the Bonny Brown Hair (b) 394 The Green Bushes 395 Out of the Window 395 My Bonny Brown Jane 396 The Slighted Suitor (a) 396 The Slighted Suitor (b) 397 Twenty-One 397 Polly Perkins of Paddington Green 398 My Darling Blue-Eyed Mary 399 My Bonnie Irish Boy 399 Sween Clonalee 400 An Old Lover's Wedding 400 The Laird's Wedding 401 The Girl I Left Behind 401 C21 References 403 C22. When death was near: Deadly love The 'Prentice Boy 411 Blooming Caroline of Edinburgh Town 411 Ballindown Braes 412 The King o' Spain's Daughter 413 The Broomfield Hill 414 Lord Ronald 415 Susan Brown 415 Susan Carr 416 Flora, the Lily of the West 416 The Old Oak Tree 417 The Silver[y] Tide 418 The Willow Tree 419 Killeavy's Pride 420 The Pride of Newry Town 421 C22 References 422 C23. Cruel was my father: Despite relatives The Maid of Ballyhaunis 427 The Banks of[Wt: the] Cloughwater 427 Hibernia's Lovely Jane 428 If I Were a Blackbird 428 The Maid of Aghadowey 429 The Slaney Side 429 The Maid of Sweet Gorteen 430 McClenahan's Jean 430 We Met, 'Twas in a Crowd 431 Johnny Doyle 431 The Lover's Ghost 432 Sweet William 433 Young Edward Bold/The Lowlands Low 434 The Constant Farmer's Son 434 The Bonny Labouring Boy 436 Willy Reilly 436 Young Mary of Accland (a) 437 Young Mary of Accland (b) 438 Erin's Lovely Home 438 Sweet Dunloy 439 Henry Connor of Castledawson 440 Sally Munro 441 John Reilly the Sailor Lad 441 Kellswater 442 The Banks of the Bann 443 Johnnie Hart 443 Love Laughs at Locksmiths 444 The Lady Leroy 445 Eliza/When I Landed in Glasgow 446 The Apprentice Boy/Covent Garden 446 C23 References 447 |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Jan 09 - 08:04 PM SAM HENRY'S SONGS OF THE PEOPLE Continuation C24. To Hymen's Car: Successful courtship Our Wedding Day 454 The Boy That Found a Bride 454 The Swan 455 The Tossing o' the Hay 455 Pining Day and Daily 456 The Pretty Blue Handkerchief (I) 456 The Pretty Blue Handkerchief (II) 456 The Gentle Shepherdess 457 The Bonny Wee Lass 458 Lovely Annie (I) 458 I'm from over the Mountain (a) 459 I'm from over the Mountain (b) 459 The Bann Water Side 460 Beardiville Planting 460 Bess of Ballymoney 461 The Blackwaterside 461 Cashel Green (I) 462 My Charming Coleraine Lass 462 The Star of Donegal 463 Glenarm Bay 464 Greenmount Smiling Ann 464 Gruig Hill 465 Innishowen 465 Kellswaterside 466 The Banks of Kilrea (I) 466 The Largy Line 467 Sweet Londonderry 468 The Lovely Banks of Mourne 468 Wild Slieve Gallon Brae[s] 468 Sandy's Wooing 469 "Thank You, Ma'am," says Dan 469 The Yowe Lamb 470 Petie Cam' ower the Glen 470 The Navvy Boy 471 One Penny Portion 472 The Inniskilling Dragoon 472 The Gallant Soldier 473 Young Edward the Gallant Hussar 473 Green Broom 474 John Hunter (a) 475 John Hunter (b)/[Dt:] The Wheelwright 476 The Journeyman Tailor 476 Lough Erne Shore 476 Belfast Town 477 Jamie and Nancy 478 Molly, Lovely Molly 478 When a Man's in Love 479 The County Tyrone 480 My Father's Servant Boy 481 Jamie, Lovely Jamie 482 You Lovers All 483 Mullinabrone 483 Jamie's on the Stormy Sea 484 Wait till the Ship Comes Home 484 The Garden Gate 485 Henry, the Sailor Boy 485 The Lass of Glenshee 486 The Hielan's o' Scotland 487 The Glove and the Lions 488 Johnny Scott 489 The Keeper of the Game 490 The Rich Ship Owner's Daughter 490 Lord Beichan 491 C24 References 492 C25. Wedlock's soft bondage: Domesticity The Married Man 501 The Happy Pair 501 The Day We Packed the Hamper for the Coast 501 The Tay 502 The Scolding Wife 503 Upside Down 503 The Single Days of Old 504 The Wealthy Farmer 504 Will the Weaver 505 The Tailor in the Tea [Dt: Sea] Chest 505 I Wish That You Were Dead, Goodman 506 The Auld Man and the Churnstaff 507 The Blin' Auld Man/The Covered Cavalier 508 The Brown-Eyed Gypsies 509 Fair Annie 510 The Ship Carpenter's Wife 511 Whisky Is My Name (a) 512 Whiskey Is My Name (b)/The Blacksmith 512 The Wee Wifukie 513 Johnny, M'Man 514 C25 References 515 End, Songs Index, pp. vii-xvi |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Ross Campbell Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:35 AM Q transcribed the song-index above. "The Star of Moville" is in Section C15, page 276 of Sam Henry's "Songs of the People". Three sources are listed above who may still have remaindered copies of the book - Down Home Music, Lani Herman (Lani H) and John Moulden. If you register as a Mudcat member you will be able to use the PM (Personal Message) facility to contact John Moulden. (Ten-year-old references, so don't hold out much hope). Otherwise Abebooks has a hardback copy in the USA priced at £184.50 ($US295.00) here Scallta Media appears to have succeeded to the Ulstersongs catalogue here Alas, no copies there but lots of other interesting stuff. If you can't find a library copy, I can scan to produce a hard copy. My scanner doesn't link to this machine, so I can't email the result, but if you login and PM me, I cam mail it. The song is twelve eight-line verses, so typing it in is not an option! Good luck. Ross |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Ross Campbell Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:09 AM I see Joe Offer has posted the lyrics on the Sarah Jane thread. "Good man, yourself!" as they would say in that part of the world. Ross |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Jun 09 - 01:57 PM Joe's posting of "Star of Moville" in thread 21974: Sarah Jane/Star of Moville Several of us on Mudcat have copies of Sam Henry. Just request lyrics in a new thread headed with the title, and I'm sure one of us will post them. Sam Henry's "Songs..." needs to be reprinted. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Folkiedave Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:17 AM I shall be putting the copy that belonged to Malcolm Douglas up for sale (10 days) on Ebay starting this Friday. It is in excellent condition. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Nov 09 - 08:54 PM On May 2, 2007, John Moulden gave an address at the Library of Congress on the Sam Henry Collection (click). It's worth a listen. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Matthew Edwards Date: 26 Nov 09 - 07:30 PM Joe, thank ever so much you for that link to John Moulden's talk on Sam Henry and 'The North American Influence on a North Irish Song Collection'. It's a superb tribute from one lover of traditional song to another. After exploring a bit further it seems there are lots of other treasures in the Library of Congess/ Folklife Center webcasts; these are a few others I found. A "singing lecture" given on Dec 4 2008 by singer and collector Maurice Leyden I am a Wee Weaver: Weaving and Singing in Northern Ireland which is a great tribute to the Ulster weaver poets and singers. This is a fascinating and stimulating lecture which probably deserves to start off a new thread, not least because of the way in which he dicusses "Our Wedding Day". There is also a brillant concert from Rosie Stewart of County Fermanagh, and an inspiring talk by Len Graham It's of My Rambles: Journey in the Song Tradition of Ulster. These talks are all on RealPlayer and last about an hour each, and are probably best viewed by opening "Launch in a new window". I suspect there are a lot more goodies among the Library of Congress webcasts; this was what I could find after a brief exploration. So kudos to the LoC and the Folklife Center, and the Arts Council of Northern Ireland sponsoring these talks and for making them available. Matthew Edwards |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,Sue Dukes Date: 04 Apr 10 - 05:38 AM To anyone who's interested, I have bound copies of the original newspaper printer's rushes of Sam Henry's complete collection. This includes many songs never included in any of the later published books. There is also an index of songs hand-typed (by, or with commentary by Sean O'Boyle, no date), and categorised as geographical, themes, alphabetical, etc. The tunes are difficult to interpret as they have been written in SoFa (dohRayMe). It would be a fairly big task, but I have intentions of scanning the works (when I retire probably!) and putting them on the net. They are an incredible source for songs not having been performed probably within living memory. I have been told there are only two other complete collections in existence, but this one is certainly unique. I am not trying to sell it, far from it, but should anyone have an academic interest, I would be happy for it to be studied. Based in Somerset, UK. Best wishes. sue.dukes@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Fred McCormick Date: 04 Apr 10 - 05:59 AM Hi Sue, That is an extremely generous offer. If you ever manage to get it done, your canonisation will definitely be on the agenda; even more so as I gather that the Huntington/Herrman publication is currently out of print. I suspect though there's more than two complete collections around. I managed to lay my hands on one in the mid-1970s, but without the extra songs and without O'Boyle's annotations. I was working on a civil engineering site at the time and part of my job involved copying reports on the office photocopier. Naturally, I used to surreptitiously feed a few sheaves of Sam Henry through at the same time until I had the whole collection copied. That was all very well, but it became a standing joke among the lads in the office, until I couldn't go near the photocopier without one of them asking how the song copying was coming along. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Apr 10 - 03:28 PM You know, I'd like to see at least a few of Sam Henry's newspaper columns, so I could see how they looked in their original home. Sue or anybody, if you can e-mail me scans of a few columns, I'd be glad to post them so everyone can see. -Joe- joe@mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,John Moulden Date: 07 Apr 10 - 04:12 PM I'll do that in a short time, Joe. In the meantime it may be of interest that the University of Georgia Press is giving thought to providing this book as a 'Print on Demand item. I assume that the items mentioned by Sue Dukes, that were not included in subsequently published books are those numbered 247 - 463 - these were issued in the series and not edited by Sam Henry but by a range of hands. I've done some work on them and they are now near the top of my things to do. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,Sue Dukes Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:35 AM Hi. When I said I had the printers proofs of the Sam Henry Collection, I didn't mean proofs of the various books which have been published under that name, but the original proofs from the newspaper in which they were printed. This comprises every single item ever printed in the paper, some of which have never been published at all in any of the various compilations and imprints. So unless I am much misinformed this contains some fairly valuable material. I believe it is one of only 3 copies in existence. Hence my offer to allow interested parties to view or study it. But maybe I am misinformed and you all have full collections. Best wishes. Sue |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,John Moulden Date: 16 Apr 10 - 01:03 PM I should clarify- The Songs of the People series in the Northern Constitution weekly newspaper of Coleraine, Co London/Derry was initiated by Sam Henry in 1923 and continued until 1939. From a date in 1928 until a date in 1932 the series, numbers 247-463, was edited, not by Sam Henry but principally by two others, James Moore and William Devine, Moore for about 8 months and Devine for around three years, with occasional interventions by three others. These items have never been edited but I am in course of doing so with the aid of copies of James Moore's manuscript notebooks and biographical and other material he gave me before his death some twenty years ago. Care is need with the material presented by Devine because it is apparent that he copied a substantial amount form previously published sources - especially Father P Breathnach's 'Songs of the Gael'. Such of the Sam Henry collected material as appeared in the newspaper together with unique material that was in the scrap-books presented by Henry to each of the Belfast Public Library, National Library of Ireland and Library of Congress, has been presented in its entirety in the University of Georgia Press 'Sam Henry's "Songs of the People"'. Sam Henry did not cease collecting with the end of the series and his late daughter's family has preserved his books and papers, copies of which I have and used to augment aspects of my 1979 selection from the collection (Blackstaff Press, Belfast) and a recent article 'Clodhopper' in the latest issue of Béaloideas (2009) on the life and songs of Alexander Crawford one of Henry's informants. I am working on these too. Some years ago, another collection of papers, newspaper proofs and unique typescripts, which had been sent by Henry to Francis Collinson of the School of Scottish Studies, was repatriated through my agency and that of the late Alan Bruford, then the School's archivist. It is now in the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum near Belfast and I have copies of the unique material. I have plans to work on and publish all of this with the help of Sam Henry's daughter's family with which I have a lengthy relationship. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Steve Byrne Date: 09 Sep 10 - 06:11 PM Further to John Moulden's comment above, I can confirm the University of Georgia Press has now begun to offer the 1990 Songs of the People edition as a 'print on demand' item. It can be bought via Amazon and Abebooks from a variety of outlets. In my post as song cataloguer for Kist o Riches / Tobar an Dualchais, we had been asking UoG Press to consider reprinting to help with the cataloguing work and thankfully it seems to have borne fruit. Now all we need is a reprint of all volumes of Greig-Duncan! |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: dick greenhaus Date: 09 Sep 10 - 06:41 PM CAMSCO Music is trying to negotiate with Berlinn Press for a Greig-Duncan re-issue. Wish us luck. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Jack Campin Date: 09 Sep 10 - 07:15 PM That should be Birlinn. Is Tuckwell still involved? If so, good luck, you'll need it. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Steve Byrne Date: 12 Sep 10 - 10:20 PM That's great news Dick, look forward to hearing more, and very best of luck indeed. [Long live Alexander McCall Smith! His novels have single-handedly bankrolled a quiet revolution in Scottish-interest publishing from Birlinn and its imprints.] |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST Date: 15 Sep 10 - 03:26 AM As mentioned above, the Sam Henry book can be purchased from ugapress.org as a Print on demand item for $24.47. Other offers on Amazon or Abebooks are charging more and no doubt are passing on your order to ugapress. Cut out the middle man and save money. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Steve Byrne Date: 15 Sep 10 - 06:53 AM ugapress.org is the best option for US-based customers. Alas, I'm in the UK which is why I mentioned Amazon and Abebooks (both .co.uk) - outlets there are actually offering it cheaper including postage to UK, around £28 GBP. Ordering via ugapress.org to the UK is a minimum of $28 USD postage, total $53 USD / approx £35 GBP plus international transaction fee depending on your bank. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Ross Campbell Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:36 AM Amazon.com currently has this listed at US$28.59 (with Free Super-Saver Delivery for US customers). (Click on the Amazon ad link above). For UK that works out at £18.72 plus £5.22 postage (23.94). Can't recommend this book highly enough. Ross |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Vic Smith Date: 16 Jan 11 - 09:40 AM When I was in Galway about ten years ago, I was in a bookshop and they were selling remaindered copies of the paperback at a very cheap price (can't remember what exactly). I bought five copies and sold four on to mates who I knew would be interested - especially at that silly price. |
Subject: Sam Henry 'Songs of the People' Online From: MartinRyan Date: 27 Sep 11 - 03:37 PM Not sure if we noticed this before: Click here Regards https://books.google.ie/books?id=aiQ7UAwQgDUC& |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry 'Songs of the People' Online From: GUEST,John Moulden Date: 27 Sep 11 - 04:31 PM This is, of course, only a limited reproduction - for copyright reasons. The book is available (paperback) in full, as a print-on-demand item, direct from the publishers, University of Georgia Press. It is however advisable, in UK or Ireland to order from the Book Depository who source in bulk, thereby reducing the postage cost which is substantial for an inividual. The BD dispatches the book post free for under £35.00 |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry 'Songs of the People' Online From: MartinRyan Date: 27 Sep 11 - 04:41 PM Thank you, John. I had come across it by accident, marked it and meant to get back to check how much was actually there! Good advice on purchasing, of course. Regards |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: matt milton Date: 22 Mar 12 - 06:55 AM A propos of nothing more than this thread being resurrected... I was given Sam Henry's songs of the People for Christmas, having stuck it on my Amazon wishlist. It's a great book. For about a week my head was stuffed full of quasi-psychedelic images of leaping salmon and dazzling colleens (often described in the songs as if they had lazer beams coming out their eyes). Reading the lyrics to song after song exhibiting that peculiarly verbose collision of O.T.T. classical Greek imagery with folksy pastoral fantasy makes for quite an assault on the senses. Like William Blake had been commissioned to run a Visit Ireland ad campaign for the tourist board. Some amazing animal songs too. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sam-Henrys-Songs-People-Henry/dp/0820336254/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332413706&sr=8-1 |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Jim Carroll Date: 28 Jul 19 - 06:29 AM For those who missed it first time around, part one of the two part series on the work of this magnificent collector is being repeated on BBC 2 tonight Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Vic Smith Date: 28 Jul 19 - 07:24 AM I remember how impressed I was seeing it the first time round (and how disappointed I was at part 2 - footage of a concert). I can't see it on the schedules for BBC2 in England but I would like to see it again and it might turn up on BBC i-Player. Regionally transmitted programmes usually do. Thanks for the tip. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,henryp Date: 28 Jul 19 - 07:36 AM Northern Ireland only, I'm afraid. 1. This documentary charts the unique story of Coleraine man Sam Henry and his monumental Ulster song collection, 'Songs of the People’, featuring interviews and performances from leading singers and folklorists. 2. A concert celebrating Sam Henry and his monumental song collection, Songs of the People, featuring Damien O’Kane, Pauline Scanlon, Andy Irvine and Cup O' Joe. Details and clips available here; Sam Henry Happy Birthday, Jim, and thank you too. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Vic Smith Date: 28 Jul 19 - 12:00 PM * I went to BBC iPlayer on the internet * Searched for 'Sam Henry' - no luck * Scrolled down to the bottom of the Home Page * Changed the tick on the location from the default 'South-East' to 'Northern Ireland@ * Searched again for 'Sam Henry' * Got the message "This programme will be available shortly after broadcast" - BINGO! |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,henryp Date: 28 Jul 19 - 01:27 PM So...the first programme will be repeated on BBC Two at 22.00 tonight in Northern Ireland only. Outside NI, it may be possible to view it live via BBC iPlayer TV Guide BBC Two by changing location to Northern Ireland. We should be able to view it on demand after the broadcast here; Sam Henry Here are some more clips; BBC Arts A life of song: How Sam Henry saved the people's music 18 April 2019 A life of song In the great folk music revival, the song collector was a key figure – someone who saved beautiful, traditional songs for all. One notable example was Northern Irish folk legend Sam Henry. As a new, two-part documentary celebrates the indefatigable collector, IAN McTEAR recalls his influence. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Jim Carroll Date: 29 Jul 19 - 02:45 AM THanks for the links Henry Living in the West of Ireland, I quite often have trouble acessing BBC stuff on line as they don't seem to approve of The Republic having it - maybe it's something we said ! There appears to be no problem with accessing BBC Ulster I know from past box-watching that there is superb coverage of traditional music from them, from just playing and singing to serious programmes - particularly on its social and historical significance Well worth keeping your eye on Jim |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,weerover Date: 29 Jul 19 - 05:36 AM Couldn't get this in Scotland, but will try on catch-up. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: GUEST,henryp Date: 29 Jul 19 - 06:55 AM Thanks, Jim, but it was Vic's initiative. And I've had trouble listening to RTE. In 1994 - the year of the ceasefire - we spent our summer holiday on Dundrum Bay near Newcastle. I would have liked to listen to the folk programmes on RTE radio, and so I asked for a copy of the RTE Guide in the local shops. To my surprise, nobody stocked it. I did get some funny looks though, and felt increasingly self-conscious even asking for it. But there was a simple explanation. The Mourne Mountains rise steeply between Newcastle and the border, making reception from the south difficult, if not impossible. People could not receive RTE programmes clearly, and thus there was no demand for the RTE Guide. |
Subject: RE: Sam Henry's Songs of the People From: Vic Smith Date: 29 Jul 19 - 10:06 AM Just watched the programme again following the method described in my previous post. Watching it a second time, I formed a different, broader impression; the first time I was concentrated exclusively on the songs and the commentary to broaden my knowledge of Sam Henry that I had from his great book. This time I took in the beauty of the landscape, the excellent placement in an interesting background of each contributor, whether indoor or outdoor and the excellent cimematography. A fascinating and important programme. |
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