Subject: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 03 Nov 04 - 06:52 PM Who were the talented folk singers of the 60's who played the coffee houses, etc., and perhaps toured, but, the masses never really knew of their musical gifts? Tell us about them, and what made them special. Perhaps you were one of them. Thanks in advance. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:03 PM My friend Luke Faust was legendary in Greenwich Village, BEFORE Bob Dylan arrived. He's mentioned in the liner notes of Dylan's first album. Luke was the finest clawhammer banjo player I ever heard, and a brilliantly innovative musician on any instrument he could get his hands on. Part of the reason that he was so legendary was that he really wasn't all that interested in performing, so when he showed up on the street and was going in to some coffee house to perform, word would spread. I met Luke in 1961 and we immediately clocked, musically. We drew from the same well.. The Anthology Of American Folk Music and the re-issues of musicians recorded back in the 20's and 30's. Our opportunites to perform were limited because when Dylan arrived, nobody was interested in people who sang traditional music any more. Peter LaFarge (who did become reasonably well known) made a prophetic statement in the early 60's that if you didn't write your own songs, you'd never make it. Luke and I wrote songs allright. Unfortunately, they sounded as much like out-takes from the Anthology Of American Folk Music as we could make them, so our audience was very limited. In 1964, I left New York, and Luke did some playing around.. first with The Insect Trust, a psychedelic/blues/folk rock band who cut two albums for Capital Records. (The second album had a lithograph of Hoboken on the cover, done by Luke. And, from time to time, Luke would surface as part of Pete Stampfel and the Bottle Caps. Pete was known primarily for being at least one half of the Holy Modal Rounders. Luke still lives in Hoboken and does some music, but I don't keep in as close touch with him as I used to. I've never met anyone who had the brilliance and creativity that he had. Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jennie. Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:32 PM Luke Kelly and Pat Cooksey, before the Dubliners, was hard to beat, in London I heard the two of them singing, I was a journalist with the Gaurdian at this time. Luke was very famous later with the Dubliners, little known in those days perhaps, but I think not now. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Steve-o Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:49 PM In L.A., they guy was Steve Mann. To this day, the most astounding and creative finger-pick guitarist I've ever seen/heard (and a decent singer). His legend is certainly secure, but he never attained wide recognition. He made two albums, both rather poorly recorded, but if you can get your hands on them, they're gold! Also, I went to college with a terrific folk singer named Bill Vanaver. A multi-instrumentalist and really good singer, he certainly fashioned himself after Pete Seeger. He made a few albums, but never "found fame", and last I heard he operated a "folk troupe" of singers and dancers in New York. Both of the above are fabulously talented, but the masses missed them. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Alaska Mike Date: 03 Nov 04 - 08:24 PM There was a duo called Bud and Travis that were remarkably good back in the late 50's early 60's. They put out half a dozen albums and toured the country for a several years. Their sound was copied by the Kingston Trio and many of the other folk era groups. Although there are still many folks who knew oof them, I don't believe they received the recognition they deserved. I still have some of their recordings and still find them great to listen to today. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 03 Nov 04 - 08:49 PM Charlie Chin. He was a banjo player/singer (five string) who did many of his performances at The Four Winds. Sean Gagnier. He worked the basket houses and wrote his songs. Sean moved to Montreal and much later--after the death of his wife Marsha--returned to the USA. Sean passed away two years ago. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 03 Nov 04 - 09:18 PM Charlie Chin was also a member of Catmother And The Allnight Newsboys. Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 03 Nov 04 - 09:21 PM Yeah, Jerry, you knew him. Who else from that crew? Any names come to mind? Bert Mason--played ala Richie Havens. In fact, Richie may have been influenced by Mason's playing style. Last saw Bert in Montreal in about 1975. Heckuva live performer. He always made good baskets. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Padre Date: 03 Nov 04 - 09:23 PM In Charlottesville and Richmond VA there was a quartet called the 'Inn Group' who played for about 3 years before one member entered the military. They had a left-handed banjo player named tom Mayes who was really good. Padre |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:09 PM As Alaska Mike said .... "Bud and Travis!" Superb. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:36 PM Len Chandler. A real rarity... a black folk singer in the 60's... it was pretty much him and Jackie Washington. Len had a unique approach to getting people to sing along. If you weren't singing along he'd leave the stage and come over to your table in a threatening way and make you sing, Damn it! Many white visitors to Greenwich Village felt uncomfortable around black folks to begin with, and an assertive black musician was downright intimidating. Actually, Len was a real good natured, friendly guy. It was more of a stage presence at the time, and a game, if anything. Jay Unger was also in Cat Mother and The Allnight Newsboys, as you probably remember, brucie. If he hadn't written Ashokan Farewell, he probably would have faded into oblivion. Add Allan Block to the list... one of the most enjoyable singers and fiddle players I ever had the pleasure of listening to. Totally unpretentious, too. He played music for the right reason. Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:44 PM Len once had a talk with me about being black--his blackness, not mine--and he opened a world for me. He was very forceful, but inside there was the guy who wrote "To Be a Man", and in there was a very kind heart. He explained what a thumb pick was to me--I'd never seen one before--and talked to me about what it meant to write songs. He was a good man, and he also critiqued my stage performance at Gerde's Folk City, much to my benefit. Thanks for the reminder, Jerry. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:55 PM How about Paul Siebel...........Anyone remember Fred Starner?...... and so many others.............Frank of Toledo |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 03 Nov 04 - 10:59 PM YES. Paul was fantastic. He was a wonderful guitar players, singer and songwriter. Very humble guy, and he didn't need to be. Loved his work. He influenced many up and comings, and he had a great talent with audiences. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Francy Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:04 PM The last I heard of Paul Siebel, he had quit music and was living in Baltimore, Md........Working in a bakery......Fred Starner is now living in Los Angeles and plays banjo and sings ala Pete Seeger..... Frank of Toledo |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: iamjohnne Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:42 PM Chuck Mitchell, ex-husband of Joni. From Detroit, but I heard him in Coconut Gove FL back in the late sixties. Also Ron Kickasola, played Celtic folk tunes. Of course there was Michael Smith too, but he has made quite a name for himself. My good friend Vince Martin. Played in the Village and also down in Coconut Grove. Vinny had a major hit, "Cindy O Cindy" back in the late fifties. Vinny did an outstanding version of Travis Edmonson's "I'm a Drifter". Yeah that is Travis of "Bud and Travis" |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bobert Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:42 PM Yeah, I heard the same thing about Paul Siebel. I loved the guy and still, on ocassion, will perfrom his "Legend of the Captain's Daughter"... BTW, he aslo wrote "Louise" that lots of folks know from Leop Koktee. Ahhhh, how about the Pozo-Seco Singers with Don Williams. I don't remember the "Inn Group", Padre, from Richomnd in the 60's but I was a tad busy with rock 'n roll and missed a lot of folks acts. There were a few other folks doing some folk music back then. Like Bob Martin. Anyone remember him? He's still playing somewhere. Art Traum? And of course, Loudoun Wainwright. (Opps, too big a name. Sorry). Bobert |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Francy Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM Yes, remember Art Traum well...And also his brother Happy....... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Nancy King Date: 04 Nov 04 - 12:20 AM In the Georgetown area of Washington DC, there was a nice venue called The Cellar Door, which regularly featured a fine guitarist and singer named Donal Leace (he played other places too, but that's where I remember him from). Very good material, and just about the nicest guy you'd ever hope to meet. I was very pleased to see him again for the first time in many years this past June at the Washington Folk Festival. New material, but the same gentle appeal. Nancy |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: 12-stringer Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:12 AM Mark Spoelstra. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: chris nightbird childs Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:18 AM Hey, I've heard of him 12-stringer. He was a friend of Dylan's was he not? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: NH Dave Date: 04 Nov 04 - 02:34 AM Howie Mitchell - builder and player of plucked and hammered dulcimers. His books on building and playing these instruments were published by Folk Legacy, and were available with a record or cassette. They'd be even better with a CD - broad hint to Sandy Paton to republish these books and music combos. Sandy Bull, a New Yorker who decided to learn to play the bagpipes by buying a set and practicing until he drove us all round the bend. He also played guitar and banjo, learned from Pete Seeger, if I remember correctly. Doing a little checking via Google I just learned that he had several "World Music" records/CDs out, and only recently passed away, in 2001. Dave |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: breezy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:18 AM Over here in the U K theres a guy playing at the Staines folk club at the 3 Tuns on Monday 8th Nov who was around then but went into carreer hibernation from folk |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Dave Bryant Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:58 AM The only trouble with hibernating creatures is that they tend to re-emerge just when you've assumed that they're not around anymore. :-) Breezy, I bet if someone started a thread on venereal disease, you'd find a way of self-advertising on it ! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: breezy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 05:23 AM I'm little but I've heard your not |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: breezy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 05:24 AM Bryant would make soemone a wonderful wife. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mike Regenstreif Date: 04 Nov 04 - 07:04 AM Bruce Murdoch was a great singer-songwriter from here in Montreal. At 17, he was anthologized with Richard Farina, Patrick Sky and David Cohen (David Blue)on the Singer-Songwriter Project LP. He later made a couple of other LPs. Bruce quit the music biz around 25 years ago, moved out to Alberta and became a high school teacher. He's someone I really miss. Mike Regenstreif |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Pete Jennings Date: 04 Nov 04 - 07:05 AM Dave "Buck" Polley. Big mate of Alex Campbell, they used to do gigs together and take along the young Anne Briggs and Bert Jansch so they could get floor spots. A heroin addict, he OD'd on a mixture of morphine and cocaine and died 20 June 1964. Bert wrote "Needle of Death" for him. Pete |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: 42 Date: 04 Nov 04 - 07:12 AM reading this thread made me go and pull out Albion Do Wa - Cat Mother and the All Night Newsboys's album - before they changed their name. What a great sound! Makes me happy I had and still have a high quality turntable! j |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bobert Date: 04 Nov 04 - 07:51 AM Nancy King, I remember the Cellar Door real well. I loved that place. So intimate. And being pretty much et the DC end of Key Bridge, easy to get to. Speaking of Paul SiebelI saw him there. Also saw Leo Kotkee, Richie Havens, Goose Creek Sympony and Joan Biaz there... Some fine memories... Bobert |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:39 AM Shh! Look behind you - Do you mean this Bruce Murdoch? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 04 Nov 04 - 09:23 AM I agree Bud & Travis aren't "unknown" . I.e. even I have heard of them (& got one of their CDs). RtS |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Nov 04 - 09:47 AM Albion Doo Wa Is a great album... still have mine in mint condition. Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:19 AM In Cleveland there was a great perfomer named Tedd Browne who was shot and killed in Cleveland Heights on the way home from a gig. He recorded two albums that I dig out and play on my show every year, great voice, sadly missed. Andy Cohen is known by some, but should be better known by all, for many years in Kent Ohio, now in Memphis, Tenn. and happier than ever, I hope. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:20 AM and Susan Reed, though well known in the 40s-50s disappeared from public notice, just before the folk 'boom' hit. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Chris in Wheaton Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:39 AM Barbara Dane Will Holt Jo Mapes - who told Odetta about folk music Alan Arkin - heard his son is doing well Ian Buchanan - who taught Jorma K how to fingerpick Johnny Herald and the Greenbriar Boys I used to go to the Elektra bin, then Folkways, not much else back then. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: fretless Date: 04 Nov 04 - 11:46 AM I'd second Dave on Sandy Bull and Jerry on Allan Block. Both great musicians. And from the Village in the early 60s add John Winn and Barry Kornfeld to the little known but worthy list. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: ThreeSheds Date: 04 Nov 04 - 11:53 AM How come no one has mentioned the great Rambling Sid Rumpo ,famous as you may well recall for his moolies and scruttocks |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:25 PM Bob Grossman. Originally from Los Angeles. Recorded an album for Elektra around 1963, and was featured on an Elektra folk sampler with Judy Collins, Theo Bikel and the Limeliters. The good news: He's alive and well and, as Robert Grossman, has been a stage actor many years, doing a lot of work in Detroit and a few other cities. Better news: He has recorded another CD, only 40 years later. It's tremendous. Whether he'll release it is another question, as is whether he'd want me to say anything more about it. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:52 PM I wouldn't put Sandy Bull in the unknown category, as he was a recording artist on the Vanguard label. Not a household name, that's for sure, but known to those who bought folk music albums in the 60's. What about Ted Alevizos, who appeared on an obscure regional 1950's recording w/ the young and not yet famous Joan Baez; "Folksingers 'Round Harvard Square." A reissue of that album was distributed in the 70's. Anyone know what became of him? Instead of names like Bud and Travis, Sandy Bull, etc. my reading of Guest's question is more about local/regional favorites that, though very talented, never made it onto a national label, or had ambitions to do so (such as who Jerry Rasmussen posted about). Chanteyranger Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: PoppaGator Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:13 PM Mention of Bud & Travis on the one hand, and of Len Chandler and Jackie Washington on the other, reminded me of a great and largely-forgotten duo, Joe and Eddie -- two black guys who brought incredible gospel-style vocal harmonies to the early commercial-folk scene. They were moderately successful, recording two or three albums, but their career was suddenly cut short when one of them died young. You should hear their rendition of "There's a Meeting Here Tonight"; tremendously exciting, with little or no instrumental accompaniment, just handclapping and soaring vocals. I think they were a little too far ahead of their time. In the category of "folk-like" singer-songwriters who each made a splash with a hit song or two covered by other artists, how 'bout Tim Hardin and Fred Neil? Both sang their own songs better than anyone else did, and both deserve to be remembered more widely than they are. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:47 PM Hey! Great thread. Thanks for all the contributions to those who did. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:58 PM The Knob Lick Upper 10,000. A trio (I think) who made a fine album that included "Two Little Boys," "Rocky Mountain Water" and a really nice second guitar harmony line on "Jimmy Brown the Newsboy." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Tannywheeler Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:19 PM Allen Damron was a local "biggie" in the clubs and coffee houses in Texas Univ. towns in the 1960s. Banjo player named John Clay, also. While I was trying to get through school, even I sang around town here in those years. And there was a guy named Mike something here in Austin during those years. Guitarist, singer, nice guy. Used to sing one with a chorus that started: "Don't let them take the Bible out of our schoolrooms. Don't let them close the door to your child's heart." Saw him on a visit here in the late '70s or the '80s and he said he'd been working on boats on the Mississippi River. Piloting them. Anybody know him or where he might be? Tw |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:31 PM Fred Neil: Used to hear him at the Gaslight Cafe in Greenwich Village in the early 60's. That was before he had released any albums. Collectors Choice has reissued all his recorded output on CD, if you're interested. What a voice! And a bass voice, which is only rarely heard on record, except when the bass sings "Why is everbody always pickin' on me?" Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Francy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 05:12 PM I was working in New York in 1962 & 63 at the Brass Rail in Times Square, as a broiler cook, and hung out at a bar named Junior's on about 56th Street....Mostly jazz was played there on the pian. I met a young english folk singer there named Matt McGinn. He was a part of the folk 60's....Those were, musically, great days....Frnak of Toledo. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 04 Nov 04 - 05:13 PM For whatever its worth, my last sentence should have read "...or had no ambitions to do so." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Joybell Date: 04 Nov 04 - 05:50 PM Hey! True-Love (Greg Hildebrand) will be wanting to add his list of singers from the Boston area in the 60s. He's often wondered where many of them went. Before he wakes up though, I'd like to mention him, because he won't. He was quite popular in a small way, I believe, before he dropped out and began wandering around the world. Joy |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:18 PM If you will post under your name, I will conribute to your thread. Otherwise, I will NOT. Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:35 PM I was playing the Boston circuit in the mid to late '60s. Names that come to mind include Paul McNeill, Bill Madison, Kenny Girard, Nancy Michaels, Chris Smither, Bill Staines, Paul Geremia, Paul Lolax, Ted Donlan, Rocky Rockwood, Dan Gravas, Bob White, Alan Rotman, Bill Lyons, Ewan MacVicar, John Cowles, Elliot Kennin, Bill Brown, Ray Clayton, Pam Coulihan. If I have a chance to dig out the old Broadsides of Boston, they might jog my memory a bit more -- Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bobert Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:46 PM Wsa listening to Chris Smithers CS just today, curmudgeon... Paul Germinio is one heck of a fine sing writer. That song he wrote about "Rex Bob Lowenstein", the DJ who wouldn't sell out his values and played whatever he liked is a good shoyt at ClearChannel... Yer list kinda reminded me of a couple others: Ray Wylie Hubbard & Jim Page... Bobert |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Francy Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:50 PM I had Paul Geremia in concert here in Toledo, Oregon two years ago and had Jim Page last August......Fine perfomances by both......Frank of Toledo |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Ferrara Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:23 PM My sister had that "There is a Meetin' Here Tonight" album by Joe and Eddie. She had a knack for finding music. ... After she moved to Austin, she became close friends with Alan Damron. I don't think of him as "unknown" or "little known" though. He still performs in the D.C. area, at house concerts, or did until recently. And of course in Austin. Nancy, talk about songs that are so bad they're good, Alan sings my very favorite: "... On the muscle of my arm there's a red and blue tatto, saying Fort Worth, I love you!" I heard Donal Leace at the Cellar Door and other venues in D.C. when I was an undergrad at GWU in DC. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:40 PM Oh yes, there was another young black folk and blues singer and guitarist I heard several times at Hootenannys at the Gaslight Cafe in Greenwich Village. I wonder whatever became of him. His name is Louis Gossett.. :-) Jerry |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bobert Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:09 PM Rita reminded me when she brought up Austin... There's a local boy who has done purdy good since movin' down there: James McMurtry... Now, for anyone who ain't familiar with him, get so... I mean it... He is the real deal... Bobert |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:24 PM Saw a fellow named Dick Glass. He played a nylon guitar and had a great voice. Funny guy also. Worked with him somewhere--club gig--and never saw him again. This was in 1966(?). Anyone heard of him? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DonMeixner Date: 05 Nov 04 - 12:13 AM Will McLain, Michael Strange, Grant Rogers, Mike Kellen, Logan English, Robbie Basho, Jim Dawson, all people I appreciated in my time and who had all some how slipped away. Don |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: rich-joy Date: 05 Nov 04 - 03:57 AM I'm still chasing info on a "Chris Couveau" of Williamsport, Pa, c.1962 - as listed in "The Coffee House Songbook" - Oak Publications, NY, 1966. Any takers?! Cheers! R-J |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 05 Nov 04 - 04:03 AM "Will McLain, Michael Strange, Grant Rogers, Mike Kellen, Logan English, Robbie Basho, Jim Dawson, all people I appreciated in my time and who had all some how slipped away." How 'bout the guy who wrote the above? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:40 AM Brucie, Oh yeah, Dick Glass. He had a semi-regular gig at a club in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn when I was in college. He put out an album called "The Well-Rounded Dick Glass," a pun on his being a bit overweight. He wrote a pretty good song about being a folksinger always on the road. The only lines I recall are "I passed by here/ I'm going to die here..." He was known in New York for singing "They're Laying Eggs Now." I know I saw him; I'm pretty sure it was at the Gaslight or Gerde's Fok City. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 05 Nov 04 - 01:58 PM Hell, there were so many, Thom Ghent, Sue Martin(or Robbins), Justin Devereaux, Jerry Merrick, Vince Martin, who played some with Fred Neil, David Rea, Gary White, Erik Frandsen, Pat Chamberlain, the list could go on forever, if my memory was a little better. As George Carlin has been heard to say, "If you remember the '60's, you weren't really there. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Joybell Date: 05 Nov 04 - 07:44 PM from hildebrand: BILL LYONS married recently. he and his wife Amy are performing as a duo around the boston area. LOGAN ENGLISH, i was told around 1990, died after being hit by a car. ELIOT KENIN is living in california. he wrote the fine song "you ain't done nothin if you aint been called a red" . g.h. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:59 PM Marc Sullivan - American who gigged in Devon Xavier Coudril - did the cousins gig in the late 60's colin Scott - 12 string and dazzling stage presence Colin Wilson - Paul downes old mate Bill clifton and Pete Roberts oh too many |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:48 PM I used to slip across the river to Ramblin' Conrads in Norfolk, VA once in a while and wish I could remember the names of folk I saw there. The only one I do remember is Bob Zentz and he is not exactly unknown but not known as much as he should be. David Williamson, a college student used to perform at a coffee house I ran in Portsmouth, VA and was very good on guitar and banjo. I thought he might have gone on to some fame. I guess the 60's did not last long enough. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Auggie Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:04 PM Oh Man. Freddie Neil, Paul Geremia and Will McLain all in the same thread.It can't get much better. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: yannis Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:16 PM ted alevizos is still singing. lives in cambridge. has done several records of greek folk songs and two cds of Greek byzantine chants(cds on Grammy entry list of best classical albums of their years). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scotus Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:31 PM Somebody further back on this thread mentioned an English singer called Matt McGinn! Well, now - if he were still around he'd be amused. You could hardly get more Scottish. Also mentioned back aways was 'a young Bert Jansch'. Back in the late 50s and early 60s Bert and his mentor Davy Graham were both heavily influenced by a little known (now) Edinburgh guitarist called Len Partridge. I've no idea what happened to Len - can anyone throw any light? Jack |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:29 PM Brian Roberts who came over to England doing a support gig for the New Lost City Ramblers 1965. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:40 PM Dick Glass was phenomenal. Beautiful voice and he sure handled the nylon he played as well as Feliciano ever did. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:49 PM In our first apartment(7th Ave. South and Bleeker),in the '50s,George and I hung out across the street in a small restaurant which had a singing waiter- beautiful young man who held the plates high over his head and filled the room with the music of his voice. Served you with a grin and a high note...who was he? Harry Belefonte! Not well known then- but he didn't stay that way... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:50 PM Len Chandler was very talented!! He could write in a folksy "Tom Paxton" style - beautifully, but also had a sophisicated "jazzy" side , too. His very interesting Columbia album was probably too musically varied for the folk audience back in 1965(?). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Little Robyn Date: 19 Aug 06 - 05:47 PM In 1967 an unknown English singer arrived here on one of the visiting ships - he was a farrier and was in charge of some horses being brought out here. He had been busking in France with his friend and he taught us his friend's song - 'Streets of London'. We thought he was wonderful but he only stayed here for a short time. His friend became well known but John Hayday remained just another obscure folkie. He later returned to NZ and gave up singing for awhile but I believe he's performing again in the Auckland area. Robyn |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 19 Aug 06 - 06:23 PM So many friends, so many times, so many songs, and so many years. What memories! When I first joined MC, I started asking about missing friends ... "Terry Wadsworth" for one. As the answers to my questions came in, I decided I'd rather not ask any more. But ... "THOSE WERE THE TIMES MY FRIENDS ...! Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charlie Baum Date: 19 Aug 06 - 09:35 PM Follow-ups on people mentioned earlier in this thread: Allan Block still holds forth at the Old Songs Festival, where every year he takes a booth for his leather crafting, and every evening holds forth there in a jam session with whoever shows up. Bill Vanaver and his wife Livia (nee Drapkin) are still active and around: http://www.vanavercaravan.org/index.html And Luke Faust's daughter Helena (married for a while to Jimmy Triplett) studied the music of West Virginia when she lived there, but has since gone back to New Zealand). --Charlie Baum |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:02 PM I just Googled "The Well-Rounded Dick Glass" and found several copies for sale, $12-$17. It came out in 1964 on the 20th Centruy Fox label. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:06 PM His rendition of "Green Green Rocky Road" is the absolute best I ever heard. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: iancarterb Date: 20 Aug 06 - 01:20 AM Curmudgeon mentioned two that woke me up. I met both Paul Geremia and Ray Clayton in Rhode Island when I sailed for US branch of the Gray Funnel Line. By happy coincidence, I worked with Ray as a CATV installer a few years later in San Francisco, briefly for both of us. Utterly lost track of him since 1971. Anyone else know of his whereabouts? Lee Haring I met on staff at Pinewoods, and I didn't see his name in the thread. Fine banjo player and singer. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 20 Aug 06 - 09:10 AM I was Billy Vanaver's den chief when he was a cub scout. I met him again when I ran the Sunday afternoon sings at the Gilded Cage in Philadelphia in the 50's and 60's. He was one of a host of talented folksinger at those sessions which included Dick Weissman (later to form The Journeymen), John Pilla (before he started working for Eric Anderson and Arlo), Benjie Aaronoff, Jerry Ricks (he's Philadelphia Jerry Ricks, now), Marshal Freedland (he, later, joined the DeCormier Singers), Saul Broudie, Harry Tufts (pride of The Denver Folklore Center) and that's just who I can remember off the top of my head. I am trying to reach as many of the old gang as I can for purposes of reunion and literature. Survivors can reach me at musicmic@peoplepc.com This is a wonderful thread. We should probably include those pioneers who ushered in the folk boom by keeping the flame in the late 40's, people like Win Strake, Sam Hinton, Richard Dyer Bennet and George Britton. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Severn Date: 20 Aug 06 - 09:24 AM Talking about Len Chandler, I stumbled into an odd 1960 vinyl curio of the times-both the album and the copy itself seeming to have a history-in a yard sale, "Beat Generation Jazz Poetry Folk Lyrics Volume 1-John Brent Len Chandler Hugh Romney at the Gaslight". It was on Musitron with no record # designated on the album cover, but side one was designated M-101 and side two was designated M-201. Recorded in Audiotronic Fidelity with "Imagination in Sound" as the company's slogan, it is personally autographed to someone named Harry from John Brent in ink and on the back cover, all mentions of the name Len Chandler were blacked out with a magic marker, for some odd reason. Liner notes were by one Felix Lupus. Produced by Jerry Galuten and Leonard Krohn in associatiion with Larry Wolf. Chandler is described as "...a far out (in italics) folk singer who came East after creating a minor sensation in Detroit Michigan. Chandler made his mark by setting wry comments about the Beats and Squares to traditional folk melodies. The results were hilarious...." Also on the back of the record jacket is this little boxed in item: THE RECORD PARTY PLAN-Find out about MUSITRON's exciting new "Record Party Plan", a novel and (in italics)cost free way to quickly raise money for your club or organisation-providing them with an unusual evening's entertainment to boot. Write: Record Party, MUSITRON INC., 82 Beaver Street New York 5, New York. Romney, of course, kept a high profile in the Hippie Era. But my question is did any of you hepCatters survive any of this in person? I'm sure some frequented The Gaslight, but will anyone who either attended a "Record Party" or experienced a "minor sensation" in Detroit please raise your hand and maybe even elucidate on the subject a bit. Meanwhile, if the name Len Chandler remains unknown, all the people who still enjoy picking or singing or merely listeng to "Green Green Rocky Road" owe the man. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 20 Aug 06 - 09:39 AM The sixties in Toronto, Ontario had so many local folksingers that I couldn't mention them all. Jim McCarthy, Dave Wiffen, Al Cromwell, Doug Bush, Klaus Van Graft, Beverlie Salmon, Karen James, and so many others. This is a great thread as it brings back so many memories and when you try to remember some names, more memories. I had Len Chandler for a next door neighbor when he played at our club and besides being the writer of some amazing music, he was also an amazing person. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:05 PM Bill and Livia were a stunning act - I only saw them twice. He could play terrific guitar and banjo and , she used to put boots on and dance - special boots like east european folk dancers wear. I am glad to hear they are still gigging. In England many of us remember them as being quite wonderful. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 20 Aug 06 - 03:54 PM I just heard that Billy Vanaver is recovering from a heart attack at his home in New England. I wish him a speedy and full recovery. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 20 Aug 06 - 05:58 PM I've just been "introduced" to a woman I'd not before heard of but wish I'd had! Karen Dalton..apparently born in Oklahoma in 1938 and doing the Greenwich Village scene in the 60's. She didn't like recording much so there's little available out there but WOW what a wonderful and distinctive style. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 21 Aug 06 - 09:04 AM Karen Dalton was great! Does anyone remember my old friend Tex Koenig? Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 21 Aug 06 - 10:36 AM I remember Tex very much. He was a good friend and a great talent. I loved the way he called people, "sweetums". |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: KenBrock Date: 21 Aug 06 - 01:47 PM Mark Spoelstra is performing in Central California and has new CD's: www.markspoelstra.net |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 21 Aug 06 - 01:53 PM Spent more than a few times going to Chinese restaurants with Tex. He knew some menus by heart both in NYC and Montreal. Giant of a man with a guitar that was dwarfed by his frame and hands. Can't recall ever seeing him without sandals, except for a few times when the weather was such that a foot of snow had fallen. I miss the old guy. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 21 Aug 06 - 05:29 PM Me too! Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 21 Aug 06 - 06:20 PM I think of Tex often. I was talking about him with Saul Broudy and Paula Ballin just last night. Tex could eat more than any other person I have ever known. We used to meet at The Charicature after work and head down to the Chinese restuarants off Canal St. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Steve-o Date: 21 Aug 06 - 07:52 PM Hmmmm- how interesting to find this thread alive again, with many wonderful insights. Both of the great folk singers I originally mentioned (Steve Mann and Bill Vanaver) can be found today on their very active and alive websites. I still love and listen to them both (on vinyl) regularly. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Allan S. Date: 21 Aug 06 - 08:38 PM I am still trying to find out what happened to Ann Bird/Byrd Was on a record" Folksingers of Washington Square" w/ Logan English etc. rode a motorcycle sang at the Yale Hoots. Also w/ a girl Margaret Wagner. Does any one know what became of them???? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 21 Aug 06 - 10:09 PM Professor Leni Ashmore Sorensen of the College of William and Mary, and formerly of the Womenfolk, now gives lectures on the role of food in 18th and 19th century African-American culture. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 21 Aug 06 - 11:22 PM One night I witnessed Tex and Sean have a go at a Chinese buffet. Tex was just eating and Sean was loading up--expecting maybe a dry spell in the 'eats' department. Astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 22 Aug 06 - 05:01 AM I'm not surprised nobody has yet mentioned Tom Deacon, as he is or was a very little known 1960s singer indeed. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Betsy Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:06 AM Marie was known as Little in the 1960's, she married Pete Smith but still calls herself Marie Little. Great singer guitarist an'all Little known as Little 1960's Folk Singer.Still around and doing well. Puts a different slant on the thread. Cheers , Betsy . |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Historian Date: 22 Aug 06 - 12:57 PM back in 1968 I was teaching in Eltham at a school called Crown Woods. there was this young folk singer there called Dave Kenningham. He was great, he sang a song called "Ride On" which became a hit over 30 years later for C Moore. I always wonder what happened to young David, and if he vere got any royalties. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Aug 06 - 03:24 PM how about Ken penny who as a member of a duo called the Journeymen ran the Jolly Porter folk club in Exeter, near St Davids Station. Paul snow who run the Exmouth club. Mike Spoons Seeley who was a strange floor singer. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,catherine yronwode Date: 23 Aug 06 - 02:30 AM Rolf Cahn Jo Mapes Mark Spoelstra Pete Berg Toni Brown T.A. Talbott Janet Smith (Can you tell where i grew up?) cat yronwode |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Leadfingers Date: 23 Aug 06 - 06:05 AM There were far too many - Some actually mad a bit of money , but so many just disappeared . |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: RoyH (Burl) Date: 23 Aug 06 - 08:13 AM Hi Wee Little Drummer, You mention two names familiar to me. Paul Snow, I remember him from the West Country scene but haven't seen him in years. And Ken Penney, sad to say Ken died a few years ago from (I think) motor neurone disease. He was a grand singer,and the Jolly Porter was a great club. I had many fine nights there. Co-incidentally one of the old Jolly Porter singers, Barry Lister, has just brought out a CD on Wildgoose records. Burl. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 23 Aug 06 - 10:33 AM Len Chandler played the Ann Arbor Folk Festival in 1992. He was living in Los Angeles, teaching and writing and leading songwriting workshops. Don't know about now. He wrote "Beans In Our Ears," which many people think is a real folk song. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 24 Aug 06 - 10:13 AM Two more I just thought of. Bruce Farwell and Kit Snow. Both Americans and both introduced me to a: new songs and b: new guitar styles. I often wonder where these people are now. On another note, I once had a one on one with tex in a chinese eatery and it must have been an off day for tex as I held my own pretty well. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peter T. Date: 24 Aug 06 - 10:18 AM Mudcat has a thread (and a remembrance) on Tex, which went up when he died, complete with eulogies and reminiscences. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Mick Date: 24 Aug 06 - 11:08 AM Maybe one of Mudcats best threads ever. It is wonderful that these names are set free from the imprisonment of time. I will be looking up their music for quite a while. Thanks, everybody. Mick |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Arkie Date: 24 Aug 06 - 12:25 PM Len Chandler also did two other songs that are favorites of mine to this day, "Loving People" and "My Father's Grave". One name I have not seen here is Jamie Brockett whose showpiece was a version of the "Titanic" or is he too well known. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 24 Aug 06 - 12:33 PM California guys, Joe & Eddie. Seamus |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:11 PM Jamie Brockett. He's a good one. Not well known, except for New England in the, what, 70s? Is his "Titanic" the one that keeps referring to the sailor with 100 feet of (hemp) rope? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Arkie Date: 24 Aug 06 - 02:39 PM In his 13and 1/2 minute version of the Legend of the Titanic, Jamie Brockett had the opportunity to cover several subjects including hemp rope. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Betsy Date: 25 Aug 06 - 06:47 AM There was a great concertina player Lea Nicholson in the 60's only saw him once at Whitby festival and at the end of his marvellous set he had the nerve to finish with "I'm the Urban Spaceman ". The audience (most of them) thought it great combining the concertina with a modern song , a bit tongue in the cheek / fun , but it didn't go down too well with the powers that be , and I THAT was that last I heard of him. Pity really. Cheers Betsy. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Crane Driver Date: 25 Aug 06 - 06:07 PM Lea Nicholson is the man responsible for turning me into a concertina player (I name the guilty party!) He was back at Whitby in 1971, and I bought my first concertina three weeks later. The rest is history (or more likely geography, since I was all over the place) Andrew |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Steve-o Date: 25 Aug 06 - 07:25 PM Note to Duke: I was Bruce Farwell's singing/playing partner in a duo that lasted from about 1985 to 1995- he was great then, and still is. Bruce is a wonderful fingerstyle player, and can sing harmony like nobody I've sung with since, and he has a great love for folk music. Our "group" was called "The Final Draught", and we played around So. California a lot- both folky songs and Irish songs. His current music partner is his wife, and they are living happily in Simi Valley, CA. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 26 Aug 06 - 12:26 AM Judy Bright in Chicago had a uniquely lovely voice. Made one LP for Dot Records. Figure Judy Collins mixed with Eartha Kit. I treasure my tapes of Judy from the 60s and 70s. Lately, she is Judy Stine. Doc Stanley. A good picker and off the wall singer. I remember his "Deep Elm Blues" fondly. Heard of his being incarcerated for something... And never heard of Doc again after that. Tim Dawe---made an LP in the late 60s---was produced by Frank Zappa. Now in California last I heard. Johnny Long---a lanky blues guy white kid in the early 70s Chicago scene. Married to Becca---but that dissolved. Just today I found a new album by a JOHN LONG reviewed in Sing Out magazine. Might be the same fellow----30 years further on down the road. Dodi Kallick in Chicago 40 years back. She's the mom of bluegrasser Kathy Kallick. Both have genetic traits to their phrasing that give each away as being related to the other. Martha Burns, a solo Old-Timey singer in Chicago circa 1972 with that biting vocal style that made you definitely remember her, and wonder where she'd gone, and why you haven't heard more of her in this era of Alice Girrard and Laurel Bliss and Ginny Hawker... Jerry Rau---a Minnesota minstrel --- the epitome of what a road songster is in my mind. A real folksinger. I spent some wonderful nights listening to Jerry. Mark Silber----Perry Letterman----Mark Dorinson---Mike Slawson----Roger Luzwick----Stu "Darsono" Ramsey----Bob Hoban---Adam Cochran... Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 26 Aug 06 - 05:37 AM I'd like to put in a little reminder of the late John Dunkerley who played guitar, banjo and doubled on keyboards occasionally with the Ian Campbell Group. As I remember he also did gigs with Geoff Bodenham of 1812. John was a truly great accompanist. I used to love his plaintive banjo on The Unquiet Grave, and very neat picking on Peggy Gordon. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Shirtlifter Date: 27 Aug 06 - 05:26 AM I saw a great folk singer at Les Cousins in the late sixties "Roy Parker" he was brilliant and had a great rapport with the audience. He done a long song called "I hate the night". I've searched and searched all my life and never found anything by him although he did mention that he had records out? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jeri Date: 27 Aug 06 - 08:33 AM Mike Miller, Billy Vanaver's heart attack was back in March, and it appears he's back gigging. Somebody mentioned Jackie Washington. He's still performing and recording with Scarlett, Washington & Whitely As for me, the 60's were Smothers Brothers, Pete Seeger, PP&M, and, "No, you can't go to Woodstock." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 27 Aug 06 - 09:07 AM There was also an American Jackie Washington who did more folk than OUR beloved Jackie Washington. Of course I really don't want to get into what is folk and what is not! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: John MacKenzie Date: 27 Aug 06 - 09:49 AM There was a Geordie lad a trainee teacher I believe, who used to frequent the Hanging Lamp in Richmond-upon-Thames in the late 60s His name was Frank McSomething, I can't remember his full name, but he was a good guitarist and I thought he'd go far. Giok |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jeri Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:31 PM Duke, who was the other Jackie Washington? I thought there was one! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jeri Date: 27 Aug 06 - 12:37 PM Never mind... bad brain day. (They're BOTH on that last page I linked to.) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 27 Aug 06 - 11:58 PM Don't think anyone's mentioned Dwain Story, writer of Wendigo (of which there's a free mp3 available here). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 28 Aug 06 - 12:41 AM Lea Nicholson did a great version of All For Me Grog, if I remember rightly. Seamus |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lamarca Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:17 PM Jackson C. Frank - I only knew of him from his cut "Blues Run the Game" on the original Electric Muse compilation, a song I loved. A couple of years ago, his only LP was re-issued on CD and I bought it - it's wonderful stuff. Frank lived and performed in the London scene of the mid-sixties, associating with Paul Simon (who produced his first LP), Bert Jansch, Al Stewart, etc. He supposedly pushed Sandy Denney to give up her day job as a nurse and encouraged her to make music a full-time job. Sadly, his album flopped in the States, and he returned to the US, where he wound up homeless and mentally and physically ill. A curious fan managed to track him down, and helped him to get some state aid and some belated royalty checks. Frank died in 1999, at the age of 56. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Crane Driver Date: 28 Aug 06 - 06:21 PM Of course, when I come to think of it, I was a little-known folk singer in the 1960s myself - and I'm STILL a little-known folk singer. Andrew |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:48 AM 'Little known 1960's Folk Singers' - a tautology, surely? (That is you, isn't it, Shirley?) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: moongoddess Date: 29 Aug 06 - 08:53 AM Lucky me, I still get to see Paul Geremia in Newport at Billy Goode's every once in a while when he is in town and not touring. What about Bonnie Dobson who sang "My Mother Chose My Husband", or is she too well known for this thread? Of course another great singer /group from the 60's is Jim McGrath and the Reprobates. Jim still lives in the Newport area and is still playing at Billy Goode's with various former Reprobates. He still has that charisma that can suck you right in to any song he is singing. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 29 Aug 06 - 12:39 PM Back in 1968, I shaved off my beard because I had forgotten what I looked like without it. When I looked in the mirror, I paniced and hid out at Dodi Kallick's in Evanston until there was enough darkness on my face to distract from the extra chins. I shared the Philadelphia Folk Festival programming duties with Paula Ballan, that year, and Bruce Farwell was a frequent guest at her NYC walkup but, then again, who wasn't. The list of 60's folksingers who had keys for Paula's would make a worthy addition to this thread, Ray Frank, Saul Broudy, Steve Goodman, Steve Mandel, Joe Heany, Carolyn Hester, Roger Sprung and me, just to name too few. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DannyC Date: 29 Aug 06 - 09:43 PM Moongoddess: I am glad to hear that The Reprobates are still at it. I found a good few nights of song with them - nothing polite mid ya - scurrying from a gig to get locked into Ed Kane's Dockside Bar (Balto.) before the shades went down tight and the iron latch thunked into place. We'd sing past dawn - lived like a troupe of immortals until the cruel sun would crack over us like a watchman's baton. I hated that life-sapping orb... I think of them often... especially when I am out singing somewhere. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 29 Aug 06 - 11:37 PM Fran McKendree, Buddy Bohn,Bob Lind, Blair Hull and Jim Roche, Eric Frandsen, Michael Strange, Borden Klotweiller, Poor Howard Stith. The list is endless. Don |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 30 Aug 06 - 12:47 AM Wow, Don - Bob Lind. The Elusive Butterfly man himself. Good one! Seamus |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: pdq Date: 30 Aug 06 - 09:48 PM Great thread. Let's keep it going. Actually, many people who sang in folk clubs in the sixties became famous, just not recognized as folksingers. The 'renagade picker' Steve Young is one, the lady who saved County Music, Emmylou Harris, is another. Even a member of the Pre-fab Four, Peter Tork. All sat on that lonely bar stool in a Greenwich Village folk club, guitar in hand, and learned to connect with an audience. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 30 Aug 06 - 10:10 PM Peter often worked at The Four Winds, one of the better basket houses in the Village. He was a good musician and very nice guy. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 30 Aug 06 - 11:10 PM Hey, I remember The Four Winds. I played there a couple times. It was around the corner from The Caricature, wher I played bridge in the back room. I used to go down there after a session at Assosiated Recording on 6th Ave. I would meet Tex there and we would go for Chinese. Some of the others in that crowd were Carol Hunter, Mark Green and John Stauber who was Leon Bibb's accompanist in the late 50's. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge Date: 31 Aug 06 - 09:14 AM I `ad that Alex Campbell in my cab once. I says "Where to, Alex?" `e says "The Lord Portman club". I says "Cor blimey, that`s the worst club in the world" `e says "`ell yeah, I know" What am I like?? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 31 Aug 06 - 03:02 PM I saw Peter Tork several times in the 1980's at The Golem, a folk club in Montreal. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 04 Sep 06 - 05:48 PM Serrafyn Mork. Went by Serrafyn only. I believe he died prematurely. Not sure of me spelling either. Good voice. Memorable name. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marc S. Silber Date: 11 Sep 06 - 10:41 PM hello and it is a nice website you have. I owned the music shop called FRETTED INSTRUMENTS in Greenwich Village,NY City, from 1963-67 and knew many of these lesser known performers. I also traveled a great deal from 1960 until the mid 1980s and met many as I was also in the U.K., France, and North Africa. I was in a group with Artie Traum in 1961 in Boulder, called THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY, and later with Artie and his brother Happy Traum and Eric Kaz(and others) called the Children of Paradise. I knew Mark Spoelstra, Steve Mann, Fred Weisz (later of Goose Creek Symphony, who worked for me at Fretted Instr.), Karen Dalton (& Richard ???, her partner), Judy Roderick, Harry Tuft, Peter Stampfel, Steve "Richmond" Talbot, Peter Berg, Paul Siebel, Rick Turner, Andy Cohen, Charlie Chin, Jay Unger, well, I could list a hundred who never made it to the real big time, and I knew them all. When I have time I will send more names in and maybe talk of them a little. I am currently still dealing in instruments, and singing and playing in Berkeley, California. I have 3 CDs, and my website is www.marcsilbermusic.com. There is a lot of gossip on my website also. The greatest guitarists I heard in those days were Perry Lederman and Bruce Langehorn, both from New York City. peace without bombs, marc s. silber |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,thurg Date: 11 Sep 06 - 11:43 PM 'Way back in '04 (up the thread), a couple of people mentioned Bruce Murdoch, of Montreal. Ten-fifteen years ago, I was principal of a small school in a small Cree community in northern Alberta, and not infrequently mail addressed to one Bruce Murdoch would come across my desk. He seemed to have been a popular personage in the community, had taught someone to play guitar, had sent someone a postcard, etc. A few years later, I met the man himself at an exam-marking fest in Edmonton. Told me he had been through heart surgery not too long before. As we chatted, it emerged that he been a full-time musician in an earlier life. Never got to hear him perform though! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 12 Sep 06 - 01:47 AM |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 12 Sep 06 - 04:50 PM Nice to hear the name Eric Kaz after all these years. He was in the Shaky Deal Jug Band with a bunch of my friends: Gary Lapow, Richard Blaustein, Chuck Mitman, Jay Small. Brings back memories, yes indeed. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Date: 13 Sep 06 - 06:55 PM Marc S. Silber- I enjoyed your bit of real Village history; I'm sure I was in and out of, "Fretted Instruments" many times in those days, and knew most of those you named. Greenwich Village was an innocent place then, comparitively- I loved all the little shops; my husband bought my wedding ring in one of them, "Unusual Wedding Rings," and I got measured for leather sandals at Alan Block's store- they have lasted all my life! Did you know Peter Carbone, who mended instruments, and Susan Reed's place, not far away? Thanks for the memories! Jean Ritchie, one of the little-known folksingers of the sixties. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: toadfrog Date: 13 Sep 06 - 09:59 PM In the very early 1960's there was a wonderful blues musician up in Portland named Mike Russo. There are a couple mentions on Mudcat, but I have forgotten how to find and copy links. I finally located him 4-5 years ago; he had reminscences of playing with Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee. Very unassuming guy with no ambition except to play music, and he no longer plays in public. He made a recording for Arhoolie which is well worth hearing, particularly piano blues. He also played 12-string guitar after Lead Belly--very well, but not so good as the original. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Sep 06 - 10:06 PM Toadfrog ... I'm also a huge Mike Russo fan. Early on, I caught a concert that he did with Jim Brentano (sp?). He always reminded me, in appearance, of Earnie Kovaks. What a great musician he is. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mary Date: 14 Sep 06 - 02:29 AM Well hi Tom Hall, I remember you and most of the people you wrote about. They were all my friends. You forgot Drew Payton. I've just been in toudch with Paul McNeil who has a new website and is living in the Phillipines. I also hear from Kenny Girard and apparently he's still playing. Chris Smither is too. Alan Rotman died several years ago of cancer but I got to see him and say goodbye. I remember the open mic night at the Sword and the Stone when a kid named Livingston Taylor sang a bunch of songs written by his brother and we all wondered who his brother was. We found out his name was James. There was the Turks Head and the Riverside Cafeteria. What a time. Peace, Mary F., the tall skinny blonds who used to take photographs. I still have them. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 14 Sep 06 - 06:25 AM Hi Mary Elizabeth ! How about joining Mudcat so that I can PM you? And if you pop back in here again, please post the URL for Paul's website -- Tom |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 14 Sep 06 - 09:55 AM GUEST thurg Bruce is a member here and posts under the name Peace (see 6 posts up). If you become a member you can PM him and get reacquainted. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:52 PM If Jean Ritchie is a little known folksinger, I'm a teapot. She was the sound of mountain music at every important festival. My fondest memories of Fox Hollow are falling asleep while she sang outside my tent. In fact, when Sara Grey asked me if I had caught her (Sara's) performance, I said, "No, I heard it last night." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,thurg Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:15 PM "If Jean Ritchie is a little known folksinger, I'm a teapot." Hmmm - are you short and stout? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Wesley S Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:33 PM Almost by definition ALL folksingers are little known folksingers! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,thurg Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:46 PM bodad - thanks for the head's-up -just noticed it - |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Allan S. Date: 14 Sep 06 - 07:01 PM Dont forget Lori Holland She is still around We saw her at the festival Mystic sea port about 7-8 years ago Also Anne Byrd and Margaret Wagner in the Village and the Yale hoots |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 15 Sep 06 - 12:32 AM Guest Mary, which Paul McNeill are you in reference to? Don |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 15 Sep 06 - 01:13 AM Yes, Guest thurg, I am short and stout and thanks a lot for reminding me. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,thurg Date: 15 Sep 06 - 01:37 AM Sorry, Mike; I was just trying to determine the likelihood of your actually being a teapot - and I have to say it is starting to seem a distinct possibility. But really there's no shame in that; teapots are very useful items used by thousands if not hundreds of people every day. Stiff upper lip and all that, old boy! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:19 AM That's OK, thurg, I have gotten used to the strain of tea pottery. I would prefer a more coffeeeish identity but that is a position that must be urned. There are, however, advantages that all tea potnicks share. Samovar best friends (like Earl "Grey" Scruggs) play brew grass banjo. I'll just say soolong for now. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:25 AM "I'll just say soolong for now." That has got to be the worst pun this year. Good one, Mike. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Jeri Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:44 AM Mary and Tom are talking about the American Paul McNeill, who would have been playing in the Boston coffeehouses. Met him a few times in the '80s. He did a funny song about cockroaches and had recently (when I'd met him) written an incredibly beautiful song - something about returning home and 'the path to your door'. It probably seems more beautiful because I heard it a couple of times, then never again. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,oldhippie Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:24 PM How about Molly Scott, Oriel Smith, Cynthia Gooding, Carolyn McDade, Julie Felix, Ric Masten. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:47 PM I tried never to miss Gerry Lockran when he played locally. I'm not sure I would describe him as little known. Great picker and singer - and fantastic personality. There is a website you can look his work up on. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:51 PM My dim memory says that we lost Cynthia Gooding a while ago? Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: eddie1 Date: 16 Sep 06 - 07:48 AM Scotus You were asking about Len Partridge. He's alive and well and living at the same address in Edinburgh! Eddie |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dotty LeMieux Date: 04 Jan 07 - 07:52 PM Hi there, I used to go to the Sword in the Stone too in the 60's and knew a lot of these people. Any one know how to reach Kenny Girard? Thanks. Dotty |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 04 Jan 07 - 07:58 PM http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:h9HCQgGCLGUJ:www.biznetmall.com/kennyg/index.html+%22Kenny+Girard%22&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd= |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: JedMarum Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:04 PM Jaime Brockett Norman Schell |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:09 PM Ahhhh YES! Bonny Dobson. Anyone know of her where-abouts? Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: oldhippie Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:28 PM Found this at: taco.com/roots/dobsoninterview.html Interview conducted with Bonnie Dobson, White House Hotel, London England, 4/13/93. Bonnie Dobson is best know as the author of the song "Morning Dew". Bonnie was born and raised in Toronto Canada where she embarked on a career in music while studying at the University there. She moved to England in 1969 where she now makes her home. Bonnie only performs in public on an occasional basis but still enjoys singing and playing guitar. Bonnie is currently the head administrator for the Philosophy Department at the Berwick College of the University Of London. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:48 PM Guest:Dottie -- I was a regular at the Sword and Stone, and I do have contact info for kenny and Bill Madison amd Paul macNeil and rocky Rockwood and others. Become a Mudcat member and you can PM me for details. Can't put a face to your name, but I might with a little more information -- Tom hall |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 04 Jan 07 - 09:53 PM Greeting: I used to play the Four Winds in Greenwich Village pretty regularly, the last time being around 1969. Does that make me a little known 1960's folk singer? At one time some of the basket houses, including the Four Winds, had a "no singing" policy because of some stupid NYC rule requiring any place with singing to have a cabaret license issued by the Police Department. In reality, performers sang there all the time. The house rigged up a buzzer system and had someone act as lookout on the street just outside the front door. His main job was to get people to come in, but he also was there to press a button if he saw a policeman coming. When you heard the buzzer sound, you immediately stopped singing until the lookout stuck his head inside and gave you the all clear. The venue did not need a cabaret license if all it had was "incidental music," which really meant background music. As far as the NYPD was concerned, acoustic guitar or banjo music without singing met the definition. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: elfcape Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:18 AM So, Jean, what happened to Susan Reed? I remember her from the early 50s when I was a little girl in Philly and she came to some kids' thing at the YWCA in center city and captured my attention with songs. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Ian Date: 05 Jan 07 - 05:47 AM In view of the comment All folksingers are little known. Would it be possible to set up a Thread as a Hall of Fame where anyone can list the names of performers, Non or professional could be displayed and recognised for their contribution to our music. I have visited numerous clubs/singarounds and heard some fantastic performances also some pretty dire ones but even the worse ones should receive some acolade as it was one such over confident tuneless singer that inspired me to learn and perform songs. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 05 Jan 07 - 09:34 AM Anyone remember the Low Down Dirty Shames from Toronto? Jim McCarthy, Carol Robertson, Chick Roberts and Amos Garrett. They were great on their own and as a group, they were fantastic. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:28 AM Steve, Were you there at the 4 Winds in the winter of '67 when the city was cracking down on the basket houses? We came up with the idea of the lip-sync coffehouse(none of us were good enough instrumentalists at the time to be able to get away with a whole set without singing)? Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:33 AM Susan Reed still has an antiques store and lives in Nyack and still sings out, I'm told, with a shape note group, and on her own at times, appeared on Jean's 'None But One' lp as part of the shape note singers on one track Serrafyn was known (or rather called himself) the Last Minstrel, dressed in minstrelsy garb, played the lute, I believe, recorded one album (which I have) and I believe he died quite young in a car accident. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 05 Jan 07 - 04:38 PM Karen Dalton The York County Boys Malka & Yoso David Rea (sp?) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 05 Jan 07 - 07:46 PM Mark et al., Yes, I must have been at the Four Winds in New York during the winter of 1967. It was one of the few remaining basket houses at the time. Did it later become the Samurai, or were both the Four Winds and the Samurai on the same block? I can't recall. I can't even remember if it was on West 4th or West 3rd, but I do remember that it was just east of Sixth Avenue. As I said, we would sing at the Four Winds until the lookout warned us to stop. I was just 20 in 1967, and the big names of the folk revival hit Greenwich Village much earlier in the decade, and many had moved on by then. I first started hanging out in the Village in 1964 when I was 17. Fred Neil was still around, and so was David Cohen (David Blue). Dave Van Ronk was everywhere, of course. Tom Paxton lived over on Morton Street, and he was pretty much a superstar. So was Phil Ochs, who lived on Prince Street, just south of the Village. Janis Fink, not yet Janis Ian, was younger than me, and I first recall hearing her around 1965. I do remember that Peter Tork appeared pretty regularly at the Night Owl Cafe maybe even a couple of years earlier. But the Night Owl was definitely not a basket house. Other people I heard at the Night Owl included Tim Hardin and John Sebastian. However, those were not the people I hung out with. My "crew" at te time included Peter Greenberg (later a studio guitarist), Adam Kreiswirth (now a bluegrass musician in Florida), Grant Weisbrot (bluegrass mandolinist, moved to New Orleans, died of a heart attack a few years ago), Bob Lusk (Celtic trad musician, now living in Kingston, NY), Bob Malenky (blues guitarist, still in NYC), Peter Debin (guitarist and folk dancer, later moved to Massachusetts and died of a stroke), and Gene Tambour (bluegrass musician, used an elastic bad guitar capo as a pony tail clip, still in NYC). But Greenwich Village was not the only folk scene in New York City in the 1960s. There were Sis Cunningham and Gordon Friesen who ran Broadside from their apartment on the Upper West Side, and there was also the Interlude Cafe in Kew Gardens, Queens, where Michael Cooney and Pat Sky were among the regulars. More on that some other time. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: oldhippie Date: 05 Jan 07 - 09:03 PM Anybody also remember Jacqueline (Steiner) Sharpe (co-writer of "MTA")? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:09 PM Steve Mann, you say? Mark Ross? Marc Silber? Yeah, I knew those mugs. Got the goods on 'em too. All sortsa salacious stuff. They're paying me FANTASTIC sums just to keep my mouth shut, but will I...? --Erik Frandsen, Summer Soldier and Sunshine Patriot, Emir of Mazhnoonistan, pro tem. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: elfcape Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:36 PM re Perry Lederman Here's a moderately decent summary http://www.elijahwald.com/bluarch.html |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 06 Jan 07 - 12:57 AM I was just across the street at the Minetta Tavern having my very first drink of the new year with Jesus Perez (one of the great percussionists, currently playing at the Cafe Wha?, which is still a going concern here in the heart of quaint old Greenwich Village) when "Bluebird" by Buffalo Springfield came on the satellite radio...I think it was the Dead Hippie Channel...and, of course, as you all know, the banjo player was Charlie Chin. Now that's a blast from the past, ain't it? I first met Charlie at the Four Winds, of blessed memory, in 1963 or 4 when he was playing with the Hunker Hill String Band, the other two members of which were Ted March(bein) and Jay Unger. Ah, those were the days when a cup of coffee cost a dollar and a ride on the subway was fifteen cents...Paul Siebel asking aloud of nobody and everybody: "How will we be able to survive, now that the price of a slice of pizza has gone up to TWENTY-FIVE CENTS??!! Some years ago Charlie married a very nice Japanese girl. They live somewhere in the Bay Area. He turned up a little recently narrating a PBS piece on San Francisco's Chinatown. I went to their wedding reception. It was an absolute Scream listening to each of them explaining to the new in-laws why he or she was not a barbarian. Does anybody remember Nick Parry-Jones, an Englishman, who played guitar and sang in the mid-sixties? I met him in Flagstaff, Arizona, Memorial Day weekend, 1966, right after I got out of jail. On my way to San Francisco, I was. That's another story...more later. -EF |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DonMeixner Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:58 AM In 1970 I went to a concert at The University Methodist Church in Syracuse, NY and saw Pat Sky and Joanie Mitchell on the same bill. It cost $2.00 for general admission. Across town at the War Memorial was Judy Collins and Arlo Guthrie, It cost $4.50 for the cheap seats. I don't miss Joanie but I sure do Pat Sky. I believe that Pat Sky had a guitar player with him named "Blind Erik Flatpick." Four years later Erik Frandsen played at a coffee house I was helping to run at Auburn Community College in Auburn, NY. I remember him as being a fine guitarist and singer. Notably doing the first rendition of "Arthur McBride" I ever heard. And a song I remember as "Drowning In Beer". Don |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:09 AM It is astonishing to read a post from someone, claiming to be Erik Frandsen. Everyone knows that Erik Frandsen is a fictitious character invented by Steve Mandel and Bob Yellin as a convenient beard and scapegoat but, as the reporter in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance" said, "When the legend becomes fsct, print the legend." NYC, in the 60's, was a hotbed of urban legends and conspiracy theories. Dave VanRonk, who was once ousted from a Trotskyite splinter group for unorthodox views, suggested, half seriously, that JFK was killed by an impatient Ari Onasis. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frandsen Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:21 AM You mean Dave "Snaker" Ray, Dave "Maverick Child" Rae, or Dave "Missing Keys" Ray? -EF |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 06 Jan 07 - 07:45 AM Another greeting: Let me get back to the "Outer Boroughs" folk scene in New York City during the 1960s. I know there was stuff happening around Brooklyn College. Joe Elias, for example, was active back then, and he still is, as leader of the Joe Elias Ladino Ensemble. There was also stuff happening in the Bronx. That's when NYU still had what it called its Uptown Campus, now the site of Bronx Community College, and there were some coffee houses scattered about. The Uptown Coffee House, still in existence, may have its roots going back to that era, but I'm not sure. I don't know much about what, if anything, was happening on Staten Island, but I do know there was quite a folk scene flourishing out in Queens. It was centered on a coffee house called the Interlude, which was owned by a fellow namd Max Heilbronner. He had a partner named Dave, but whose last name I don't recall. The Interlude was located in the corner of a row of storefronts just off the Long Island Railroad station plaza in Kew Gardens, Queens. That's the very spot where Kitty Geovese was murdered in 1964, while at least 38 people saw or heard what was happening, but did nothing. The Kitty Genovese incident inspired the opening stanza of Phil Ochs' Small Circle of Friends: "Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed, he's dragged her to the bushes, and now she's being stabbed..." Phil appeared at the Interlude, as did many of the Greenwich Village folkies (Dave Van Ronk, the Holy Modal Rounders, Eric Weissberg & Marshall Brickman, etc.), but the place also had its own collection of locals. Chief among them, for a while, was Michael Cooney. He came from out-of-town, but chose to live in Queens rather than Manhattan. Kitty Genovese had lived in one of the apartments above the row of stores, and Michael Cooney lived in another of those apartments, possibly in the same building. Another Interlude regular was a singer-songwriter named Al Kuda, who called himself Al Casey for a while but started working under the name Al Cooper when he landed a gig playing organ for Bob Dylan. Kuda/Casey/Cooper later became a member of Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Among the others were Bob Zaidman (blues, ragtime, and country guitarist), John Kalish (banjo picker), Kent Michaels (poet), George Hirsch (blues guitarist). Another was Pat Sky, whenever he was in town, but he divided his time between Queens and the Village. Interlude waitress Lucy Brown appears in a photo on the back cover of one of Pat Sky's LPs. There were other places in Queens as well, including a coffee house on Metropolitan Avenue in Forest Hills (maybe called the Metropole?) and another for a very short time on 37th Avenue in Jackson Heights, but those were mostly places to play gigs and go home. The Interlude was the place to hang out. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:42 AM Joe Elias, of golden voice and flowing mustache, lives in the states of semi-retirement and New Jersey. He and Judy live in a lovely developement, wherein dwells another still active survivor from the 60's, Hal Wylie. Hal was, for many years, the lead vocalist for Roger Sprung's Progressive Bluegrassers. Joe and Hal still attend sessions in Philly so, to us, they are as active as ever and we're happy to have them. Many of our local 60's stars are scattered or gone but I remember them all. Dick Weisman is out west, as is Harry Tufts and Benjy Aaronoff. Jerry Ricks is in Mississippi, Raun McKinnan is in L.A., Michael Kaz is in St.Paul, Saul Broudy is on the road most of the time. The rest of us (Tossi Aaron, George Britton, Jackie Pack, Joe Aaronson et al) stayed close to home and folksang for our suppers all these years. Fame is fleeting, parnessah is permanent. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:47 AM One of the loveliest and most talented singers I saw in the late 1960s was Joanne Kelly.She was a brilliant and beautiful blues singer and guitarist and sadly died about 12 years ago.Much missed.I saw her at the Adelpi folk club in Swansea. ifor |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DebC Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:06 AM Still wondering about June Bugg whose LP "Hootenany Folk Festival" on Palace Records was the recording that started it all for me. Any info? I've asked over the years, but no one seems to know... Deb Cowan |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:59 AM Mike, Joe Elias and his son Danny just performed at the Eisteddfod Festival of Traditional Music in Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, this past November. Other recent Eisteddfod performers from those old days included Jeff Davis, John Cohen, Heather Wood (last surviving member of the Young Tradition), Andy Cohen, Mike Agranoff, Jerry Epstein, and Alan Friend. See, Queens still is a center of a vibrant folk scene in New York City, much of it now centered on the Renaissance Charter School in Jackson Heights. In fact, there's a picture of me performing with Pete Seeger in a children's concert at the Renaissance Charter School on my website. Click here; then scroll to bottom of web page. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Tim theTwangler Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:15 PM Being too young to have heard any of the performers in this thread(he he not often I can say that nowadays) I have two questions. The first is silly but would there be any cds with groups of these old time greats available and the second even sillier What is meant by playing house parties and house musician etc Sorry but in Uk and really dont understand those references. Lovely thread though keep it going please. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Abby Sale Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:19 PM Perhaps "Little known" can be defined as whether allmusic.com has any (or more than one line) on the person. Many mentioned above were well-known locally - some as local "favorite sons" for decades. But never left home. Most started that way, I guess. I could easily name a dozen good singers/singer-songwriters well-known on the Florida circuit but unknown outside Florida. Or even outside Orlando. Mike Miller: I'm pleased you mention Joe Aaronson at last - you didn't earlier. He had a huge effect on "spreading the gospel" in the 60's. I'm glad he continued. You don't mention me, though. That's ok. I wasn't even known downtown - just on campus! Peace: (et al) "His rendition of 'Green Green Rocky Road' is the absolute best I ever heard." You mean Chandler? Still alive, I believe. Born 1935. One of the few good things I have to say about _Rise Up Singing_ is that they give proper credit to this song. To Chandler, yes, but he was fairly well-known. Thing is, also to beat poet Bob Kaufman. They actually collected it together from street kids in New Orleans. Len sang it and taught it directly to Van Ronk. That created the East coast bluesy veresion. Chandler went west and taught it to a fine little-known San Francisco singer named Tom something. That created the softer West coast version. Speaking of San Francisco favorite singers. I've been trying since '59 (you know, the 60's had to get started somewhere - it was in the 50's. Many of them learned from 40's singers. And so on...) to track down the favorite San Francisco singer. He was actually in the Union and wouldn't take less than scale. The local Guthrie - or Suffet. Any help appreciated. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:27 PM "His rendition of 'Green Green Rocky Road' is the absolute best I ever heard." I think would have been Dick Glass that I referred to with that remark, Abby. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Windshield washing wino from the Lower East Date: 06 Jan 07 - 03:35 PM You mean Dave "Snaker" Ray, Dave "Maverick Child" Rae, or Dave "Missing Keys" Ray? -EF The "Maverick Child" guy was David Rea. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 06 Jan 07 - 04:31 PM Dear Abby: Could your missing San Francisco singer have been Dino Valenti? Very talented cat, great performer, carried around a psychic neon sign that said "Arrest Me" to any cop who say it? Wrote that "...c'mon people, smile on your brother" thing and sold it for $50 bail money? That guy? Dear W.W.Wino: sorry 'bout the spelling. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:14 PM Abby ... Dave Spence? Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Windshield washing wino from the Lower East Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:36 PM Yay yay ooby aba do bop |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: pdq Date: 06 Jan 07 - 07:53 PM San Francisco's favorite folksinger from the 50s was probably Stan Wilson, who proved that the Hungry i could book folk acts and still sell a drink or two. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 06 Jan 07 - 09:11 PM Once upon a time, there were dozens and dozens of folk clubs in the Phila, area, alone. Every college had its own coffeehouse and its own concert area. Penn had The Little Greenwich, Temple had The Critics and Scholars The Museum School had Dirty Frank's. Coffehouses ringed Rittenhouse Square and every one of them presented Folk. I worked every weekend, so did Billy and Benjy and Saul and Jackie and Tossi and a half dozen others who drifted away from music to persue pelf and security. Some went on the road. Dick Weisman joined The Journeymen, Marshal Freedland joined The Robert DiCourmier Singers, Billy started his Caravan, Saul met Bruce Phillips and Gordon Bok came into his trust fund, bought a boat and God, only, knows what ever happened to him. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 07 Jan 07 - 09:12 AM It occurs to me that we have neglected many important 60's folksingers whose area of fame and expertise was esoteric. Ella Jenkins was the last word in children's songs. Her work with rhythem instruments has never been equaled and her recordings can be found in thousands of schools and libraries. Ruth Rubin was the folk authority in the Jewish music genre as, in a more commercial way, was Martha Schlamme. Their albums were major sellers and they played the most prestigious concert venues. Every folk festival, in the 60's, featured music from the British Isles and the most popular performers were Norman Kennedy, Louie Killen and Joe Heany. Popular American eclectic performers included Guy Carawan, Gil Turner, Jo Mapes and the ever lovely Bonnie Dobson (sigh). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland Date: 07 Jan 07 - 09:45 AM My brother in law Eddie Gair, he starred alongside Rab Noakes, the MacCalmans, Matt McGinn at the first Arran Folk festival in 1971. Ok I know that isn't the 1960's however he was around at that time in folk clubs |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: maeve Date: 07 Jan 07 - 05:47 PM Someone up the thread asked about Chris Smither, who is happily married and doing well. Check on his long list of inspired albums to catch up with him: http://www.chrissmither.com/index.html Another friend, Gordon Bok, is still crafting elegant and lovely music, singing, carving, and living a happily married life in Maine. Take a look here: http://gordonbok.com/ maeve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Stewie Date: 07 Jan 07 - 06:18 PM Alice Stuart, who featured on a fine album on the Arhoolie label back in the early 60s, is still going strong. I bought her 'Can't find no heaven' album recently and was mightily impressed - lovely renditions of 'Turn your money green', 'Wild Bill Jones' and others. She has a website: Alice Stuart. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: maeve Date: 07 Jan 07 - 06:29 PM Around 1968 in Durham, NH, my fifth grade teacher would tune the school television to an educational program (a new concept in my minimal tv viewing experience). A thin young man with a guitar sang traditional songs and I think he was on Old Ironsides in Boston Harbor. Who was it? Bill Bunyon has been suggested, but I'd love to have a confirmed identification. That was the best part of fifth grade, and helped launch my own interest in singing the old songs. Anyone else remember? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:00 PM Peter and Isabelle Gardiner. They had great voices and played lovely songs. Erik Darling. Much more of an influence on the 60's folk scene then was acknowledged. Glen Yarborough. Sam Eskin. (collector/performer) Terry Gilkyson, Rich Dehr and Frank Miller (Easy Riders from LA) No one has mentioned Sam Hinton or Bess Hawes although they predate the 60's. Leon Bibb (now his son Erik) Brock Peters. (the actor) Theodore Bikel. (pretty well-known though...actor/singer) Brother John Sellers (gospel/blues singer) Anita Shear (international and flamenco) Bob Gibson Paul Clayton Alan Mills from Canada and the great fiddler Ti Jean Carignan. Shoshanna Damari (Yemenite legend) Oranim Zabar (Guela Gill) Big Joe Williams Arvella Gray Tom Paley (influential in New York folk circles) Micheal Saul (one of the best clawhammer players around) Memphis Slim (blues piano legend) Harry and Jeannie West (Appalachian/country) Harry in N.C. now. Ray Boguslav (New York area) Fleming Brown (premiere banjo influence/notabley Stephen Wade) Billy Faier ( a creative an innovative 5-string banjo player) John Stauber (worked with Belafonte, classical and folk guitar) Dick Rosmini (prolific guitar picker) Woody Wachtel (o-t banjo picker player, new york area) Tony and Irene Saletan from Boston (Irene and Ellen...Kassoy Sisters) Scott MacKenzie Hoyt Axton Frank Robinson (banjo player from San Francisco who did folk concerts with Rolf Cahn and Jo Mapes) prior to 60's David Cohen (great guitarist from LA) Dave Lindley (could play anything well) Ed McCurdy (singer/songwriter performer) The Gateway Singers (from San Francisco...Hungry i) Pat Foster ( a little-known singer but influential to those who knew him) Doc Hopkins (o-t player from Chicago) Bob Atcher (like Gene Autry from Chicago) Spanky MacFarlane (fame for a short period with Spanky and Our Gang) How about Jean Ritchie's family...Edna Ritchie Margaret MacArthur (lovely folklorist/singer from New England) Before 60's Richard Dyer-Bennett who no one seems to know about today. William Clausen (in the Dyer-Bennett tradition..excellent singer/guitarist) Mary O'Hara (one of the first of the harp playing Celtic singers) Bob Carey (with the Tarriers..not mentioned with Alan Arkin and Erik Darling) Jerry Yester and the Modern Folk Quartet Micheal Janusz who hardly anybody knows about but one of the great international singing performers..LA...Ash Grove Pete Feldmann from Santa Barbara (bluegrass mandolin) Greenbriar Boys (w. Ralph Rinzler) Ethel Raim (Pennywhistlers) Joyce James (Womenfolk) Art Rosenbaum (0-T banjo picker from Athens, GA) Mike Bloomfield (blues guitarist Chicago) Oscar Brand (but he is more well-known) There's more that I might think of later. Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:13 PM More: Alex Corner (English blues player) John Hammond Jr. (although he gets around) John Cohen (w. Mike Seeger and the N.L.C.R) Blind Blake from the Bahamas Manse Lipscomb (traditional blues picker) Roger Sprung (influential bluegrass banjo player in New York) Tim Holt (LA area) Tim Buckley (same) Almeda Riddle (not too known Appalachian singer traditional) Horton Barker (same...recorded by Sandy Paton) Judy Henske (married to Craig Doerge..great pianist) (Whiskey Hill Singers) Jesse Fuller (African-American traditional folk singer from San Francisco) K.C. Douglas (blues musician from S.F. area) (I was privileged to cross paths with most of the aforementioned folks) Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:40 PM Mike Cooper and Derek Hall - residents at the Shades Coffee House Reading (now an Indian Restaurant) circa 1965 |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:14 PM I'm not for sure if this is little known or now mostly forgotten singers, but here goes: Marais & Miranda - mostly So. African songs of the Boers. Bob Grossman - Recorded a splendid album at Cosmo Alley in Hollywood. Ron & Nama The Goldcoast Singers Martha Schlamme - performed w/ Frank Hamilton at '59 Newpor Paul Clayton Casey Anderson Addis and Crofoot Will Holt - well maybe more cabaret type Marilyn Child - performed w/ Glenn Yarborough, gigs w/ Josh White, Jr., but heart always on Broadway. If I duplicated, please forgive. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:16 PM Frank -- You're making me feel old. Most of those on both of your lists I consider to be well known -- Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Ian Burdon Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:12 AM I think that the Alex Corner mentioned a couple of posts back was Alexis Korner Do Hazel Dickens and Alice Gerrard count in this "little known" category? It depends were you are I guess Ian |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM Come to think of it, I was a little-known 1960s folk singer (I started in 1969). And I am still little-known :-) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:00 PM Exactly I never heard of anybody called Scrump. A name like that, you'd remember. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:23 PM Alix Dobkin Jackie Gibson Helen Schneyer Elliott Kenin Lee Ruth Roy Berkeley Laura Wetzler Jimmy Collier Rev. Frederick D. Kirkpatrick Laura Weber (taught guitar on TV in 1960's) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:17 PM From the Bay Area: Terry Dolan Allan Burton Chuck Massey Ivan Ulz Don Burnham (later leader of "Lost Weekend", California's top Western Swing outfit.) Dynamite Annie Johnston Ruthann Friedman (mostly L.A.) Hank Bradley Larry Hanks Phil Marsh |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DonMeixner Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:42 PM At the Auburn Community College Coffee house we had a lot of people go through that I haven't heard of since or very seldom. Randy Rice Art Carney's son who was very good. Blair Hull and Jim Roche (became friends but have lost touch) Larry Keane Bill Steele Bill Destler (Now a dean of sorts at Cornell) Mary McCaslin Jim Ringer (Deceased) Nicky Seeger Fran McKendree |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Greg B Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:23 PM Dottie Gittleson--- SoCal folk singer and children's book author. Used to sometimes play with other friends at 'hootenanies' in my folks living room c. 1967 or so, when I was but a kid. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,RS Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:40 PM Wee Little Drummer, hail from across the years - nice to see Derek Hall mentioned - I used to go down the Shades back then, & could never figure why the guy wasn't huge, he was as good as any of the 'legends' (D Graham etc), I still have the 'Out of The Shades' EP with his masterly versions of 'Darlin' & 'Skillet'; oh, & Mike Cooper's trying to track him down too, according to his Cooparia website.. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:19 PM ah but but I was so much older then.... write me a letter RS, I'm hungry to hear you this is my website and contains my e-mail http://bigalwhittle.co.uk/ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:46 PM Ah, the memories. So many of those named were friends, so many that I would have to scan that list again and again to get them all. Here are some updates and questions. Alex Dobkin was a regular at the Sunday sessions at The Gilded Cage, as were, Elliot Kenin, Ethel Raim, Josh Dunson, Billy Vanaver and Gordon Bok. So was Shelly Posen, when he was studying folklore at the Univ. of Pennsylvania. I have always associated Helen Shneyer with the Washington, D.C. crowd along with wonderful singers like John Eberhart and Andy Wallice. I traveled to NYC to see Roy Berkeley at the Old Farts Reunion in Washington Square but he didn't make it down from wherever he lives in Vermont or New Hampshire, so I had to make do with picking with Eric Weisberg, Steve Mandel, Gene Yellin and a few other survivors of that most musical of decades. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:18 AM MARC SILBER, You were sitting on a table at the first University Of Chicago Folk Festival in 1961 -- picking out San Francisco Bay Blues. That was Saturday afternoon -- Feb. 4th, '61 in venerable old Ida Noyes Hall where the workshops for the festival always happened. (Fest is still going strong---still yearly at the beginning of February.) But I never forgot the fingerpicking you were doing that day. It was a big influence on me.----- And Perry Lederman was hanging out at that festival in '61. Just amazing. I'll be back tomorrow with some more stuff for this good thread... Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: elfcape Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:30 AM Jeez. I didn't think Hank Bradley was that old. Are we talking end of 60s here? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Sandy Paton Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:10 AM Bill Destler is actually Provost at the University of Maryland now. Still singing darned well. Let me add Dave Frederickson's name to the list - Berkeley, singer of western songs. Made one recording (at least) for Folkways. Slim Critchlow (is that how he spelled it?) - fine western singer originally from Utah, I think, who became part of the Bay Area scene. Charlotte Daniels, from Indiana, made one record for Prestige. Sang some in the Washington, D.C., clubs back about then. Did one gig with me at the Gate of Horn. Cathy and Carol (Were they later than the 60s? I still think of them as youngsters.) Jack Stanesco - still sings with Harry Tuft out in Denver as part of Grubstake. And finally, one of the best of them all: Larry Hanks. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: VIN Date: 09 Jan 07 - 08:35 AM It will take me a year to plough thru the above so just thought i'g ask if anyone has yet mentioned the great Mary Asquith from the Manchester area yet. Saw her a few time in T'owd days, one of the best female blues voices ever heard at the time. Got some recordings of her on minidisc from friends album of hers. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 09 Jan 07 - 08:52 AM Cathy and Carol (Were they later than the 60s? I still think of them as youngsters.) Kathy and Carol had a single lp on Elektra, circa 1965, reissued last year by ccmusic.com (I have no financial interest). Also last year, they shared a bill with Mark Spoelstra in a central California concert. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 09 Jan 07 - 09:48 AM Back to the U.S. West Coast: I believe that Larry Hanks is still singing up a storm in the Bellingham area, though I might be incorrect about that; The late Terry Wadsworth, from the late 50's and early 60's; Pat Garvey, who I think now runs a bookstore in the D.C. area; Good thread! Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Andy Jackson Date: 09 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM Strikes me the reason most of these 60's singers were unknown is that they lived in America!!!! Tee Hee. Andy (safe in the UK, with our own bunch of never-quite-made-its. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 09 Jan 07 - 10:46 AM Most of these "little known" folks were not little known to to us on the scene then. Most everyone mentioned here were well known to us THEN. It was a mesmerizing time. Don't forget Jim Kweskin and his fingerpicking influence then. I was teaching a beginners guitar course the the Fret Shop on 57th Street in Chicago's Hyde Park south side neighborhood-----in the old Artist Colony buildings -- cold water storefronts left over from the Colombian Exposition of 1893. KWESKIN was teaching an advanced fingerpicking course then and there (1961). I had a Webcor 2-track reel-to-reel tape machine on which I taped an hour of Jim solo singing and playing on Ella Jenkins' (she is still around and singing at age 80) WSBC-FM radio show called the MEETIN' HOUSE. I just got Roxio software and put those tapes on a CD in this brave new millennium. Great music and great memories. (Great thread too.) And I must add that I started picking and singing at Chicago's NO EXIT COFFEEHOUSE---CAFE AND GALLERY that year -- 1961. THIRTY-SEVEN YEARS LATER, I was still playing music there quite a few dates every year. I always referred to the No Exit as "my oasis" --- until I lost the ability to pick altogether. As I'm fond of saying, "If it wasn't for time, we'd have to do everything all at once!" ;-) Best regards, and my heartfelt thanks, to all of you. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 09 Jan 07 - 11:04 AM I meant the David Rae who, at about 17 years old, used to live in Toronto and played back-up guitar for many Canadian folk singers as well as doing solo gigs at coffe houses. He backed up Ian & Sylvia, Joanie Anderson (later Mitchell) and Gord Lightfoot at the Mariposa Festival that was held in Maple Leaf Stadium in the sixties. The late David Snaker Ray wouldn't fit into the "Little Known" catagory, since almost everyone I knew in the sixties who was into acoustic music had a copy of Blues, Rags & Hollers and Lots More B,R&H. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 09 Jan 07 - 11:23 AM Paul Simon was a little, known 1960s folk singer. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:15 PM Scrump-- Ooh, that Paul Simon line. You're a cruel man. But fair. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:39 PM "Miskin man" ... there's more truth in what you said than you might realize. I know several folkies of that period who performed under several different names. (it was easier to hide that way)! Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jeff Hindman, Maidstone Date: 09 Jan 07 - 03:13 PM Does anyone know what happened to the "Four Square Circle" from SE London? They were around from 1965 to 75. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 10 Jan 07 - 06:52 AM Ah, this thread is an ideal one to ask about a group I remember vaguely from the late 1960s or early 1970s. They were (I think) a trio (but could have been a duo?) and I believe they were based in the Fylde area (Blackpool possibly) (Lancs, England). Their name was (I think) "??? Boots" where "???" is something I can't remember. I've been racking my brain to remember - I don't think it was "Brown Boots" but maybe it was? They moved to London in about 1970 or '71 IIRC, but I never heard of them afterwards so I guess they broke up or something? Sorry it's all very vague, but does anyone remember a duo or trio answering this (admittedly incomplete) description? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM The Jug Trust! Vernon Haddock's Jubilee Lovelies! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM I remember Jug Trust, led by Brian Cookman (I believe he's sadly no longer with us). I saw them a few times in the late 60s and early 70s, and the first time I saw them (1969) I did a floor spot where they were on the bill, and Brian very kindly lent me a harmonica as I had come unprepared to play (although I had my brand new guitar, bought the same day, with me). The band later changed its name to Bronx Cheer. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 10 Jan 07 - 12:28 PM elfcape: Sure, Hank Bradley's that old. I met him in '66 or '67 when he was playing with the Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Band, doing their unforgettable version or Martin Mull's "Chinese New Year Waltz", among other faves. He's still alive, too. I think. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 07 - 12:54 PM A group from Nova Scotia Scotia called Swallowstale. They did some local gigs and the Lunenburg Harbour Folk Festival, did one Cassette then disappeared. Too bad, they were great. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marty Farrow Date: 10 Jan 07 - 05:45 PM Jeff Hindman, I believe one of the "Four Square Circle" is with "Elsie`s Band". |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 10 Jan 07 - 05:55 PM How about the Two Tones from Orilia, Ontario? Gordon Lightfoot, the tenor guitar player is still around, but where is Terry Whalen(sp?)? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 10 Jan 07 - 06:33 PM Some info on Terry Whelan here. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: elfcape Date: 10 Jan 07 - 08:02 PM To Frandsen: Hank was married to Sandy, wasn't he? She's till calling dances in the NW I understand from the trad-dance-caller's group on yahoo. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: iancarterb Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:35 PM Hank Bradley lives in Seattle, playing Greek music and whatever else comes to mind, as always. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 11 Jan 07 - 06:32 PM I'll tell you 'bout a little known group who were fairly popular in Norway named "The Immigrants". Nobody knows about them today. Bernie Krause who replaced me in the Weavers was little-known but quite good. He became well-known as a producer for Paul Beaver (of synthesizer fame). How bout Dave Sears (who sounded alot like Pete Seeger) as well as Joe Jaffe from the NY area? Anyone hear of Effie Siegerman? (NY) Moved to Australia I think. Moe Hirsch was a great guitar-banjo- picker from U of Chicago but little-known in New York. (Became math prof). Red Parham and "Crazy" George Pegram from Statesville N.C. were mainstays on the Bascom Lamar Lunsford Asheville Folk Festival. Great performers and the real deal. Sonja Savig sang Norwegian folk songs and performed well in NY and NE. How 'bout the bass players? Tom Lee, father of Spike Lee accompanied Odetta and Josh White. Wilbur Ware (known in be-bop jazz circles accompanied folk acts). So did Chuck Israels who is better known for his work with Bill Evans, great jazz pianist. "Buckwheat" used to play with Bud and Travis. Art Thieme and I would agree that Bill Chipman was one of the best around of trad. country singers. What about Rick and Lorraine Lee who I knew in Boston? Lorraine (a formidable lap dulcimer player is now Lorraine Hammond and Rick played a mean banjo and piano. Howie Burston, great banjo player married to Sally Rogers. Do Kate and Livingston Taylor of the James Taylor family count as lesser-knowns? Katie Lee from Arizona, (cowboy songs, southwest folk music) Ruthie Gordon from Appalachian area wrote some great songs. Shlomo Carlbach is well-known in Jewish circles but was lesser-known in the folk area. For that matter, Henry Zapotnik...same as Shlomo Carlbach. Tony Schwartz should qualify as the collector of the famous unfamous "Moondog" on the streets of New York. Gil (can't remember his last name but wrote songs for Broadside with Dylan, Paxton and Len Chandler. Rick Epping, folk harmonica virtuoso from LA Here in GA, Colonel Bruce Hampton (kinda' folk rock) Lynn Gold (LA but now residing in Fla.) Derroll Adams, the "banjoman" who I knew in LA and performed with Jack Elliott in Europe. Known well in Belgium, Amsterdam etc. but not in the US. My old buddy Dave Zeitlin who plays a beautiful folk guitar and had a rich tenor voice now teaches at McCabe's Guitar Shop in LA. Marcia Berman and Patty Zeitlin (formerly married to Dave) have written lovely children songs and are folkies from the 60's. Arkansas Red lives in Eureka Springs, AK and is a great banjo-picker, guitar-player and folksinger. He still does it...goin' strong. Micheal Miles (better known in banjo circles) from Chicago...beautiful clawhammer stylist. Sis Cunningham (editor of Broadside) trad Appalachian and topical songwriter Bess Hawes should be better known than she is (Alan Lomax's sister who in my view is as significant in some ways as Alan). Educator, banjo-picker and singer. With the Almanacs. Tom Glaser...was pretty well-known at the time. Wade White, a great slide-guitar blues player from North Carolina...not known today. Clabe Hangan from San Bernadino California...African American performer..great. Did anyone mention Robin Roberts? She sang Celtic songs and was part of Vanguard Records or was it Electra? My friend Elise Witt is a fine folk singer and performer from GA. Does anyone remember Pat Foster? Freddie Gerlach played 12 string guitar and studied Leadbelly. Jean, I remember Peter Carbone of Bleeker Street. Worked on my instruments. Jim Rooney from Boston, played left-handed (like Bill Staines) and did trad. country. Mike Melford also produced trad. country played mandolin. Joe Klee played Uke and sang songs. Later became a jazz critic for Mississippi Rag. Osborne Smith, African-American performer sang rich baritone and played percussion in the Chicago area. Mike Settle worked with Kenny Rogers in the "First Edition". He wrote some good songs. Eric Schoenberg is a great finger-picking player who is now making guitars on the West Coast. Not many of you knew Al Grierson but I think he was one of the best writers around, died tragically in a flood in Texas. Was it Micheal Strange, the actor who put out the record of Robin Hood ballads for I think Elecktra? Of course Billy Strange played guitar with Glenn Campbell in the "Folkswingers". Jimmy MacDonald was an African-American singer/performer from New York. I remember Bob Gibson, Mary Travers, Jimmy and I went to Philly to sing at a coffee-house in the dead of night. "Lingo The Drifter" did "Ramblin' Jack/ Sandy Pinckney. Lingo from Colo. area I think. Mike Bloomfield? Did I mention him? Sort of famous later as a blues guitarist. Little Brother Montgomery was a fairly well-known blues pianist and songwriter from Chicago. Played with Willie Dixon. Patti (Reagan) Davis played coffee-houses throughout the Seventies in LA and Santa Barbara. She was probably around during the Sixties. Snooks Eaglin, great New Orleans bluesman and singer. Hedy West, can't forget her. How well-known she was I guess is debatable but great banjo-pickin' gal and singer. Some of these folks you might have heard of, some not. It would be a great thread to do: "Where are they now?" Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: David C. Carter Date: 11 Jan 07 - 07:02 PM Anyone know what happened to Willis Alan Ramsey,who wrote-North East Texas Women? David |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 11 Jan 07 - 07:26 PM I well remember a concert in San Francisco in 1959. Odetta sand at the Opera House and Tom Lee played bass with her. Amazing. Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 12 Jan 07 - 12:30 AM Greetings once again! Just to add to what Frank Hamilton wrote: • The Gil whose last name he cannot recall was Gil Turner. He died in 1974 at the age of 41. Among his many songs, the best know is Carry It On! • The banjo player married to Sally Rogers is actually Howie Bursen, not Burston. I took clawhammer lessons from him at Pinewoods Camp in 2005. • Sis Cunningham was from Oklahoma, not Appalachia, although some of her songs were in Appalachian style. Sis was, up to the time of her death in 2004, a mentor to generation after generation of topical-political folk singers. • Sonja Savig is still very active in the New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 12 Jan 07 - 03:20 AM I guess "little-known" or "well-known" is a bit subjective, as each of us has no real way to tell how many others knew about these people back then. Likewise, I may never have heard of somebody listed here who was known to many others, who would appear to be "well-known" even though I've never heard of them. It could be argued that nearly all folk singers then and today, are largely little-known by people outside the folk community, even some of the biggest names. How many people outside the folk world have heard of (say) John Kirkpatrick, Jez Lowe or Vin Garbutt? (Just to pick three names more or less at random, of highly respected folk artists who have been around a long time and are big names in the folk world, at least in the UK). That said, I have heard of some of those listed by Frank Hamilton - Derroll Adams, Mike Bloomfield and Hedy West I would have thought were fairly well known, but maybe that's just because I know them. As I said, it's subjective. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Stefan Wirz Date: 12 Jan 07 - 06:29 AM Gordon Heath & Lee Payant ('Abbaye' in Paris, France) They're *so* little known that there's nothing by them to be found on CD (or is it?) Stefan |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 12 Jan 07 - 11:03 AM Scrump said,"I guess "little-known" or "well-known" is a bit subjective," and I think we'd all agree. Show me a clawhammer banjo fan who doesn't know of Howie Bursen, but if you were to ask 50 people on the street I'm sure you'd strike out. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: elfcape Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:55 PM How many American singer songwriters have heard of John K, Vin Garbutt or even Jez? At least they might have heard of Jez since he comes to the States. But they don't sing folk music and aren't interested in traditional styles, so they're not likely to be acquainted with John. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: DeeRod Date: 12 Jan 07 - 09:42 PM of course for the least known of the unknown, you could have been reading Washington Folk Strums (64-67). Glad to read of Bob Grossman. Got to know Bob in Wash, @62. He was top bill at Shadows one tome (in DC) and I took a date who was mightily impressed that the star came and had a drink with us at intermission. 2nd bill was a kid form Philly-comedian of sorts. Cosby by name. Pretty good too. Bill Destler; only double dipper, Pres. FSGW,Pres. Bal;t. Folk Club Currently Provost, U. of Md. can't get him out to sing these days. Allan Dameron got a lot of coverage in Folk Strums. He was resident in Brickskellar Club here. We palled around Newport FF.Saw him three years ago. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 12 Jan 07 - 10:08 PM Stefen: Gordon Heath and Lee Payant DID have an impact on us here in Seattle in the mid fifties. The late Walt Robertson hung out with them in Paris for a while. He brought many of their songs back to us, as well as wonderful tales ... such as the "finger snapping" rather than applause. Sure, this is a thread about 'obscure' influences. But you NEVER know just how far these influences spread ... and continue to spread. This is becoming a great subject! CHEERS, Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Xeno Date: 12 Jan 07 - 11:48 PM This is my first time visiting this site after a friend reccommended it, and as I scrolled down I was intriqued by this thread. Especially since the friend who told me about Mudcat Cafe was a "little known 1960's folksinger!" We were just kids from Tulsa together, & Jennifer Sullivan was singing in "coffeehouses" & small clubs around the Midwest USA from about 68 into the 70s. Jennifer was just a little teenage girl then, only about 14 or 15, but she could make herself up to look older, so nobody realized her youth then. She was unusual because she knew more folksongs than anyone anybody ever met, and played a variety of instruments beyond guitar & flute & keyboards that most people never heard of then, like mountain dulcimer & autoharp & bodhran & irish whistle & stuff I can't even remember. Since she played guitar with ceili bands as a youngster she knew all kinds of irish songs & tunes, and could easily cover the "folk"singers of the time. She told me that she's now out in California living the good life while the rest of us schmucks are sitting in the cold back in the breadbasket. It's amazing & kinda sad sometimes the talent thats running around out there that we don't even realize. Somebody you know could easily have been well known, but is a nobody in poverty now. Zeno, still in Tulsa |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Miller Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:29 AM Well, Zeno, we're not famous but we are far from impoverished. Many of us, who were full time performers in the 60's stayed in the business after the hootenanny craze passed. We teach folk instruments, we sing in school programs, libraries, museums, state and county fairs, festivals (large and small), senior facilities. We do workshops and artists in residence appointments. Some of us tour and some stay close to home. In Philadelphia, I have managed to maintain a full time career, without traveling. So have a number of others folk performers who live here (Jackie Pack, Tossi Aaron, Joe Aaronson, Ken Ulancy, Saul Broudy and George Britton, who has been making an excelent living from folk music since the late 1940's). Don't cry for us, Argentina. Just, send us some Columbian. Mike |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Sandy Paton Date: 13 Jan 07 - 03:13 AM I haven't had time to read ALL of these entries, but I hope someone has mentioned Bob Coltman, old-time music authority, singer/songwriter extraordinary, and fairly frequent contributor to these Mudcat pages. Several fine recordings on Minstrel Records, at least one of which (I think) has now been re-released as a CD. You may be familiar with some of his Child ballad revisions, recorded on a remarkable release titled "Son of Child." One of my personal favorites has long been Ed Trickett. Has he been mentioned here? Ed has a great knack for finding wonderful songs and sings them, as Gordon Bok once put it, "from the inside out." Sandy |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:01 AM American singer songwriters may not sing in your tradition, but they are operating in their tradition. Or their view of what tradition is. Tradition is a funny word. Back in the 60's, I was at Leighton Park School in Reading for about 15 months, and we had this American kid doing a sort of year's scholarship. He said the thing about this school is - you have no traditions....not like we had in my school back in America. we all said, but why would we have any traditions - our school only started up at the start of the 20th century. He said, well - that's about thirty years older than my school back in Arizona, we've got all these traditions that we hand on. I think Americans must have a lot more literal meaning of traditional than we do - it is what is actually handed on. Whereas in England, 'traditional music' has to actually have ersatz cobwebs hanging off it. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Jan 07 - 11:51 AM I find your comments VERY interesting. Many years ago I got "hung up" on the definition of "traditional folk music." Most every folksinger I ever met has to get through this question. Remembering that America has such a short history compared to Great Britian, for example, for several years I used a handy definition for traditional: it had to be at least 100 years old. I'm sure that seems silly to you, but it worked for me. It is also the benchmark that antique furniture dealers use to measure authenticity. Today I don't have a clue how to define it. And NO, let's don't warp this fine thread into yet another attempt at defining the impossible. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 13 Jan 07 - 12:47 PM There was Addiss and Crowfut, two folkies who toured the world on a State Department grant. They introduced American folk music around the world. Sorry i got Howie Burson's name wrong. Yes, Gil Turner. Thanks, Steve. There are countless great folk instrumentalists who haven't been mentioned such as "Ti Jean" Johnnie Carignan, one of the world's best fiddlers from French Canada. Earl Collins, a great traditional country fiddler who lived in LA...... Ralph Blizzard ...another great fiddler. Zylphia Horton, wife of Miles Horton from Highlander Folk School responsible for the popularity of "We Shall Overcome". Played accordian. Jenny Vincent Wells from New Mexico...spanish songs. Accordian also. There was a guitarist from McCabe's Guitar Shop...I can't remember his name...I think it was Rick but he was a phenomenal finger picker. Joe and Antoinette McKenna.....Joe...master of the Uillean pipes and Antoinette, singer and player of Irish harp...exceptional performers. The Pindar singers from the Bahamas....Joseph Spence...Bahamian guitar player and singer. Clark Allen...flamenco and Spanish songs from the San Diego area. Did somebody mention Joe and Eddie from the Troubador in LA? (maybe getting redundant here) I wouldn't call Ed McCurdy little-known but maybe comparatively to others. John Herald....with Ralph Rinzler in "Greenbriar Boys". Wrote a version of "Stewball". How about Molly Scott? Pretty lady. Nice voice. Howie Mitchell, dulcimer player with the group, "Golden Ring". George and Gerry Armstrong from Illinois. George...folklorist and bagpipes...Gerry, dulcimer and traditional ballads. Jenny, their daughter is also a fine singer/player. Banjo Dancing with Stephen Wade...although he is pretty well-known in the Mid-West. I vote for my friend Mark Dvorak from Illinois who is just coming into his own as a songwriter as well as folksinger. Sonny Houston lives in GA and has played on records with Guy and Candie Carawan. Plays all kinds of instruments. Red Grammer (sp?) who replaced Glenn Yarborough in the "Limelighters". Ernie Lieberman (Sheldon) who also replaced Glenn in the "Limelighters". Ernie became a substantial songwriter. Betty Sanders...part of People's Artists but sang through the Sixties. Jerry Walter (banjo picker) of the "Gateway Singers" which had "Elmer Lee Thomas" a fine African-American singer as well as a starting group for Travis Edmondsen. "Sonny" Vale was the Robert DeCormier of the West Coat with his Folk Chorus. Earl Robinson kept performing through the Sixties and was writing and composing music. Peter Alsop, a writer of children's songs and folksinger from LA, married to Ellen Geer, daughter of Will Geer. Freddie Hellerman was with the well-known Weavers but his private accomplishments were as a producer for Joan Baez (I think first recording) and songwriter. "Come Away Melinda".. Then there's the "Fast Folk" crowd from New York. Steve Suffet will know Jack Hardy and those people. A great folk instrumentalist and singer is Joe Craven who did a remarkable CD called "Camptown". I'll mention John McCutcheon just because he has recently moved to GA and is a neighbor, now. Did anyone mention Si Kahn? Not a big big name but just as important as any. Micheal Smith (songwriter "The Dutchman"..Chicago) and Barbara Barrow. Ken Pearlman...fairly well known in banjo circles. I'll vote for my friend Adam Miller who is now touring the country and making a good living as (gasp) a folksinger. Autoharp and guitar. Then there's Peter Marston, from New England, a great singer was with David Jones in "Starboard List"....David...also great. Pete's brother (my friend) Chick is a great blues fingerpicker and works with his wife Ellen Ford, singer in N.E. and Florida. John Langstaff is known as a baritone who started the "Christmas Revels" in Cambridge but was formerly on staff at Pine Woods. The more these names come up, the more I realize just how extensive and powerful the "folk scare" was. The beat goes on..................................... Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Jan 07 - 12:56 PM Frank, The more names you plug into this thread, the more you shake names out of the cobwebs in my brain: Walt Robertson. CHEERS, Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bubblyrat Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:02 PM Many years ago,I used to go to a folk-club in a pub called the Half Moon, in Yeovil----1965/66 it was !! I remember one night a little guy shuffled in and hung around sort of furtively in the background,until he was announced as the guest for that evening --it was Paul Simon !! I thought he was very good (as you would !!) but I was a "Terry & Alan" man, myself !! Terry was ,in real life, Lt.Commander Terry Kemp,RN, a test-pilot ,from the nearby Royal Naval Air Station,Yeovilton, & Alan was a corporal in the RAF , also stationed at Yeovilton--he looked after the accomodation for RAF personnel that was provided for visiting Vulcan bomber ground-crews.I know this because I was stationed there as well !! I always admired Terry & Alan for both their musicianship ,& stage "prescence"----They were destined to be together.They had matching guitars,although one played different chord-shapes with a capo on,which I thought was very clever ( and "cool" !! )-Certainly the sound was good,and they could both sing well.Their repertoire was interesting ,and songs I can still recall include "Bound out for Newfoundland " and " The Squid-jigging ground " They were very professional & entertaining,& would go down well today ! I often wonder what became of them. Incidentally, some other regulars at that club were a strange bunch,one of whom worked on the corporation dust-cart in Yeovil----They called themselves "The Yetties " !!! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:44 PM |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:50 PM Frank: Like Deckman said, they're falling out of the cobwebs. How about Gil Robbins (of The Highwaymen), currently touring America in a big-ass Winnebago. Father of actor/folksinger Tim Robbins. I get postcards from him sometimes. He's a happy guy. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Jan 07 - 02:58 PM Frank's posting of names has suggested something. I'm going to list a few names. "Little known" or prominant doesn't matter much, really. Following are the people that I felt were quite significant to my folk music background here in the Wst Coast or America. These very fine singers are no longer with us ... except in "spirit": Walt Robertson John Dwyer Roy Guest Terry Wadsworth This next list includes great musicians that no longer perform: Sally Ashford John Ashford Mike Leib This next list is of very active performers: Don Firth Nancy Quense Stewart Hendrickson Jerry Middaugh Reggie Miles John Weiss Steve Lalor Mike Nelson George Austin Stan James Alice Stewart Bruce Baker Steve Culver This last list is of great musicians that I have lost track of, and I sure would like an update: Mike Reedy (U.K.?) Don Normark Pat Garvey (WA.D.C.?) This is not a complete list, and I'm sure I'll squeeze a few more out of my very old brain cells. If any of you want an update on these folks, give me a PM. I should caution you that some of these people do NOT wish to be located. I'm sure you all understand that. CHEERS, Bob (great thread) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:34 PM Also from the Seattle area, Judy Flenniken (big voice), currently living in Key Largo, Florida with her husband. Still singing, as far as I know. . . . not to mention Bob Nelson (Deckman), who got interested in folk music when he was about thirteen. I first met him in 1953, when he was about sixteen or so, and by then, he knew his way around a guitar pretty well and had a sizeable, and growing, repertoire of songs. Since then, coffeehouses, concerts, television, folk festivals, the whole works, all up and down the Pacific Coast (and where all else, I'm not sure). But like a lot of fine singers out this-a-way, no recordings, which is probably why he isn't better known around the country than he is. Back during the 50s and 60s, what few record companies there were in the Pacific Northwest were into soft-rock and do-wop, and they were outright hostile to folk music. But that situation is currently being rectified. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:43 PM Deckman no I know not neither what a tradition actually means definitively. I was just commenting that the Americans seem to mean something different to us. And Elfcape seemed to sum up that sort of 'they're wrong cos they ain't like us' belief. In English music, there seems to be a sort conscious reaching back and yearning even, for the past and its certainties. Like Oscar Wilde said , two nations divided by the same language. all the best al |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:44 PM Also the late David (Dave) Spence. He was a native of Belfast and came to the USA when he was 18. He was very big the in the Bay area, singing most every Friday night at "The Drinking Gourd." He died in 1966 at the early age of 26, in an aircraft accident. (Don ... how much do I owe you for that compliment)? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:52 PM We'll negotiate tomorrow when you get here. . . . Glad you're going to be able to make it after all! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 14 Jan 07 - 01:30 PM Bob Grossman is living in New York. I have his cell phone number. I mentioned, way way above in this thread, that he spent many years in Detroit as an actor under the name Robert Grossman. Last year he appeared with Lucie Arnaz in a play called "Sonia Flew" at the Coconut Grove Playhouse in Florida. He released a new CD a couple years ago (43 years after his Elektra album). He does a killer "Begin the Beguine" on it and an incredibly bluesy "Surrey with the Fringe on Top." Spike Lee's dad is bassist Bill Lee, not Tom Lee. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jan 07 - 05:45 PM What a great thread, and I've sifted through the whole thing! At least some of these "little known" singers from the 1960's were known by me. Certainly I and my parents knew Bill Bonyun who pioneered the "job" of singing folk songs in classrooms and produced a fine collection of recordings on his Heirloom label; I need to bug one of his sons about getting some of them re-issued as CD's. His wife Gene was also a fine singer. Is Mel Lyman less known? I may have missed him in my scanning but he was part of the early 1960's folk club wave of performers in the Boston area, before he went off the North Carolina and swapped songs with Obray Ramsey, and then joined the Jim Kweskin Jug Band, and later became God and went West. I knew him in his Woody Guthries phase, and I still sing some of the songs he wrote, and some of Obray's as well. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: johnross Date: 15 Jan 07 - 05:35 PM The singer mentioned uptopic who sang on TV from the deck of Old Ironsides was probably Tony Saletan, who did many broadcasts on Boston's WGBH-TV. Tony is now living outside Tacoma, Washington and calling dances. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Abby Sale Date: 16 Jan 07 - 04:28 PM GUEST,Erik Frandsen, Deckman & pdq: thanks for the suggestions. Not them, though. I finally remembrer his first name was Carl. Very good. Frank: What a list! Some of the better known ones in the 1st two lists were greatly influential, I think. For me, especially Dyer-Bennett. I learned about ballads. Hey! What about's all the Cambridge/Boston people. As said all had to get started but there were many fine local sengers about the time that girl with the long black hair was getting off the ground. Rolf Cahn & Rick von Schmidt for starters. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Date: 16 Jan 07 - 04:57 PM Abby- and before that, Gene and Francesca is NYC |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 16 Jan 07 - 06:18 PM How about Al Cromwell? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 17 Jan 07 - 11:04 AM Abby: Yeah, that Boston crowd had a lot to offer. How 'bout left-handed Eddie Motteau, and Round Mound of Renown Pat McGuinn? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Madison Memories Date: 04 Feb 07 - 06:54 PM In Madison in the 60's at one time or the other I knew or met: Carolyn Hester Danny Kalb and his unknown younger brother Johnnie (both great guitar players) Paul Prestipino, who might be the same person as Greg Prestipino (?), an incredible mandolin and banjo player Phil Buss, guitar player and maker(last seen in Santa Fe in the 90's) Tracy Nelson, blues belter of "Down So Low" and Mother Earth fame Mel Storch, banjo Of course lots of famous performers played Madison in the early 60's starting with Joan Baez and later Dylan himself, but since Chicago was only 3 hours away we used to go down to the University of Chicago Folk Festival where there was a lot more traditional folk music to enjoy. People like Flatt and Scruggs, the Carter Family, Doc Watson, Big Joe Williams, Gary Davis all played there in the years I went. In addition to the great concerts cause we were on he scene we always got to go to the afterhours party in somebody's flat where you got to see and hear some of these same luminaries in the intimate setting of a livingroom--until the police came and rousted us all out onto the frozen streets because of a noise complaint. I particularly remember Big Joe Williams and Rev. Gary Davis performing at one of these parties, and at that or in another year, Paul Butterfield, as yet unknown, was in the hallway practicing licks from "You Gotta Help Me Baby, I Can't Do It By Myself" while simultaneously putting the make on a girl with long blonde hair, the lyric ostensibly being his come-on line. I'll never forget that. A couple of years later the Butterfield Blues Band was packing them in at Big Johns in Oldtown and we'd go down on weekends to catch them cause it was a really hot scene. One time while we were dancing I realized that the woman who I was having such a blast dancing with was none other than Odetta. Barry Goldberg was someone I also hung with once or twice in chicago. As to other not-so-well-knowns I can think of: Diane Davidson (maybe more country music), saw her play in San Francisco a couple of times. Jesse Winchester Kate and Anna McGarrigle Ewan MacColl and A.L.Lloyd who had a couple of albums of Sea Shanties |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bubblyrat Date: 04 Feb 07 - 07:15 PM I say !!! Ewan McColl little known ?? Well,maybe in the USA ,but in the UK he was ,& will always be, in the top 5 EVER !! His contribution to the Folk Revival in Britain was phenomenal, both as a performer & a song-witer !! He even managed a song,recently recorded by Christy Moore, about the Cuban revolution :- "Courage was their armour, as they fought at Fidel"s side, with Che Guavarra " Goes the chorus & yes,McColl was very "Left wing " !! But that didn"t affect his popularity,like it didn"t affect Pete Seeger"s! Hell, Ewan McColl even married Pete Seeger"s sister Peggy !! So ,to mention him on a "little known" thread is unbelievable !!!I mean, he was like a British Woody Guthrie,for God"s sake!! How CAN you call him "not -so-well-known", Guest Madison Memories ?? I am in shock !!! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Leadbelly Date: 05 Feb 07 - 05:37 PM Bubblyrat: take it easy! Naturally you are completely right with Ewan, but don't forget that this contribution comes from the US. If somebody is well-known and famous in one country this does not automatically mean fame in other countries and vice versa. At this opportunity I would like to send best wishes to Howard Stith who is my personally known best "Little known 1960's Folk Singer" , living in NH. Manfred from Germany |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bubblyrat Date: 05 Feb 07 - 05:51 PM OK Manfred !! Sorry to get "overheated" !! Where are you in Germany ?? I used to live in Bielefeld !! I did a lot of "busking " outside the Post Office near the railway station in Hanover !! Roger..... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 05 Feb 07 - 05:59 PM And ... let's NOT forget Pat Garvey! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Madison Memories Date: 05 Feb 07 - 06:54 PM Well O.K. now, calm down. I didn't mean to demean him, especially since I really loved his albums of Sailors songs, and now that you hit me with both barrels I recognize that Ewan McColl was indeed a name here in folk circles and had a bunch of albums out. That was long ago and maybe my memory isn't as good as I thought. I guess what I meant was, not widely known among the wider public rather than among lovers of folk music, which one could have said about many really authentic folksingers anyway. Besides which, some people above were mentioning the New Lost City Ramblers in this context, and they were anything but little known or insignificant and I didn't get all unhinged. Anyway, I was thinking of the great seashanty sides, which one must admit, are an even more esoteric taste. I googled them and am glad to see that those albums are still in the catalog and on CD. BTW you may not know, or maybe you do, that John Houston used some of the seashanties from McColl and Lloyd's album "Blow Boys Blow" for the soundtrack of Moby Dick. Gave it an authenticity that Gregory Peck's wooden acting couldn't match. Back to not-widely-known musicians, I forgot to mention that great songwriter Van Rozay from Canyon CA |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Psychomorris Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:06 PM Bubblerap Take it easy the world is bigger than Pompey. We had one of the best folk scenes ever in the mid 60.s to 70,s enhanced by many a draft dodger from the USA along with many a rebel song from Eire. What may sit well with one group cannot always sit well with others. I like openess and free thought. Don't kick it if it differs with you. Chill out man. Psychomorris |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:09 PM Song Lyric as sung by Dick Gaughan The good ship Granma lies at anchor in the harbour Waiting for the evening tide to bring high water It's bound for Cuba she must go across the Gulf of Mexico And the Caribbean ocean She's carrying a human cargo, Eighty-three good compañeros Each one burning with determination to be free Against Batista, the Fidelistas Courage was their only armour As they fought at Fidel's side With Che Guevara Ten days out from Mexico these compañeros Landed on the Cuban beach Los Colorados Fidel said, this year will see our country and its people free Or else we will be martyrs We've only guns enough for twenty, The enemy has arms a-plenty Meet him then defeat him and he'll keep us well supplied Against Batista, the Fidelistas Courage was their only armour As they fought at Fidel's side With Che Guevara Five weeks later in the Canyon Del Arroyo The people's army numbered eighteen compañeros Hungry, weak, but unafraid, They're learning Revolution's trade In the high Sierra Maestra And in the mountains winds are blowing Bearing seeds of hope and sowing Crops in Cuban earth that mark the birth of victory On compañeros, to El Uvero! Courage was their only armour As they fought at Fidel's side With Che Guevara They fought their way across the peak of El Turquino Joined by peasant bands and men from Santiago They faced Batista's tanks and planes And drove them down into the plains From the high Sierra Maestra They drove the gangsters from Las Villas Straight across the Cordilleras Santa Clara fell to Che Guevara and was free Against Batista, the Fidelistas Courage was their only armour As they fought at Fidel's side With Che Guevara The fire lit on that Cuban beach by Fidel Castro Shines all the way to Tierra del Fuego Its sparks are blown upon the breeze And men rise up from off their knees When they see the night is burning It blazes up in Venezuela, Bolivia and Guatemala Lights the road that men must go in order to be free On compañeros, Americanos! For a peoples' free America Fidel has shown the way with Che Guevara ©1968 Ewan MacColl |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:14 PM A couple of names from the Canadian folk scene of the 60's just bobbed to the surface of my grey matter; Bob Ruzicka and Bob Ryszkiewicz. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Psychomorris Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:19 PM Pat Nelson. John Isherwood. Pete Quinn. John Fitzgerald.(Pompey) Shall I go on. Easy to do with all I have seen. We all have, where we come from, memorable singers and muscians who have given us such delights.None of them have fame in the sense used to day. But local to me you would travel to see them because you enjoyed what they did. What I like is that I can get the same today at most folk clubs and festivals I attend. Thanks all of you. I hope those Americans and Irish that gave me pleasure at their singing and music in the 60.s are still at it. How can any one ever arrive at best ever? Psychomorris |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:22 PM http://ouestech.com/bob/ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 05 Feb 07 - 07:26 PM Yo, bobad, crank the volume. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 06 Feb 07 - 12:31 AM Ewan MacColl was quite well known in the United States. My first acquaintance with his singing was in a class I took in the University of Washington, English Department, "The Popular Ballad," taught by Dr. David C. Fowler. Dr. Fowler played many cuts from a set of several records of traditional ballads sung by Ewan MacColl and A. L. Lloyd by way of examples of ballads we were studying. A couple of years later, I met Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger at the 1960 Berkeley Folk Festival. Songbooks compiled by MacColl, such "The Shuttle and The Cage" and another similar book he did, plus "The Singing Island" put together by MacColl and Peggy Seeger were big sellers in this area. There were darned few folk music enthusiasts whom I knew, whose interest went deeper than the Kingston Trio, New Christy Minstrel level, who did not know who Ewan MacColl was. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 06 Feb 07 - 01:56 AM Frank forgot to mention Valucha Buffington, with whom he recorded The world of Frank & Valucha in the early '60s. Art mentioned this recording here and he has a 1983 photo of them here (enter "mudcat" for both username and password). —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Leadbelly Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:52 AM To Bubblyrat (Roger): Originally I'm coming from Hamburg playing 12-string guitar (blues + folk) in some folk-clubs like Danny's Pan, Blockhütte (St. Pauli) and Onkel Pö from 1966 to 1972. Later on I moved to southern regions, now living in Lower Bavaria (Niederbayern)in a small town (kleines Dorf) near Landshut. Hope you enjoyed your time in Germany. Thanks for your interest! Manfred |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Abby Sale Date: 06 Feb 07 - 10:51 AM Peace: I assume you posted "Los Compañeros" to reply to bubblerat, not because Gaughan is a little known 1960's Folk Singer. Actually, I thank you for it - the event is, of course, in the Happy File but I was too lazy to transcribe more than a few lines of it. Yah, MacColl/Lloyd recordings were taight in my 60's class as well. MacColl & Peggy also did several concerts there (and Peggy one when the US wouldn't let the "dangerous commie terrorist" into the country.) Having Mac Leech & young Kenny Goldstein around didn't hurt. But I'm remembering others. There were a number who were fairly widely noted then stopped singing. Ruined their careers as folk singers: Andy Griffith Burl Ives (athough he did sing for a number of years) Alan Arkin Liz Dyer (I've had a little contact with her - the lovely erstwhile partner of Dave Goulder is happily married, instead living the joys of one-nigh stands) Bonnie Dobson (her first US appearance was in my class, too) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 Feb 07 - 11:32 AM Yup, Ewan married Peggy all right, but Alex Campbell married her first. G ¦¬] Any of you Canucks ever meet a guy called Brian Wadey around Toronto? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 06 Feb 07 - 11:42 AM Absolutely, Abby. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bubblyrat Date: 07 Feb 07 - 11:44 AM Dick Gaughan is /was not a "Little -known 1960s Folk Singer". In fact, he is very much a very well -known 21st century folk -singer & musician, and something of an international superstar in the folk world-----which means,of course, that nobody in isolationist USA will have heard of him !!! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 07 Feb 07 - 03:13 PM Bubblerat, I don't think it's so much the "isolationist USA" as it is people who got into folk music recently or whose interest and knowledge, as I said in a previous post, doesn't go very deep. I recently had a young thing ask me "Who's Joan Baez?" And she, of course, is American. Same people who have never heard of Ewan MacColl. Or Eric Bogle. Or Paddy Reilly. I have definitely heard of Dick Gaughan, and although I've never heard him in person, I've heard him on a number of radio programs such as Fiona Ritchie's "Thistle and Shamrock" and on locally produced folk music oriented programs on one of the National Public Radio affiliates in my area. And the others I've mentioned, and more. Most of the folk music enthusiasts I know (not ALL geezers like me) and swap songs with have heard of these folks too. And have probably learned songs off their records and CDs. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 07 - 03:32 PM Anyone hever heard of V. Glen Ford and his girlfriend? Wish I could recall her name. He was from Michigan but know they travelled... at least to Florida, and probably many other places. Lovely harmonies. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 07 - 03:34 PM Glen used to sit at the coffee house where (now called) Bob Dylan sang. Bob would rest his foot on this huge coffee grinder, as he played. Glen now is the proud owner of this coffee grinder. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 07 - 03:36 PM Yes, Glen used to play backup for Joan Baez and others... A great versatile singer/player. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Cliff Date: 07 Feb 07 - 03:43 PM the late Fred Holstein, Chicago |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Armen Tanzerian Date: 07 Feb 07 - 05:51 PM Rolf Cahn Bob Jones (became an executive in George Wien's Newport organization and renounced singing, but was the best, most soulful ballad-singer I ever heard) Molly Malone, née Nancy Rosenthal |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 07 Feb 07 - 06:33 PM I got my hot little hands on a record (Bay Concerts Records) that Rolf Cahn and Jo Mapes made back in the 1950s, and learned several songs from it. Good stuff! Then, in 1959, I was in Berkeley and had a chance to meet Rolf and get together with him for a couple of songfests. I wanted to take some guitar lessons from him, but he was heading back to Cambridge in a few days and didn't have time. Nevertheless, I learned a lot from him in just a couple of days. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 07 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM Artus Moser? Appalachian singer. Horton Barker. Great Appalachian singer. Nimrod Workman, also. All were singing in the Sixties. Hally Stepherson Wood. (Married to John Henry Faulk). Mary O'Hara wasn't well known in the States but big in Ireland. Orla Fallon reminds me of her. Art Thieme knows Bill Chipman...a great country voice...not unlike Riley Puckett. Sam Eskin lived in Woodstock N.Y. and was a folksong collector and songwriter. Blues musicians not too well known....Big Joe Williams (not of Count Basie fame). I mentioned Snooks Eaglin earlier. A great player and singer from N.O. Joseph Spence was singing and playing from Bahamas in the Sixties. "Blind" Blake (not Arthur Blake) was from the same area and nobody knew much about him at the time. You know Sandy Paton might be included. Everyone knows him for his Folk Legacy but he was a fine interpreter of British Isle ballads. My friend Dave Zeitlin from L.A. teaches guitar at McCabes and sang and performed well. Also my friend Guy Carawan and his wife Candie...major contributors to folk music as folklorists and sociologists. Lee Haring banjo folkie from N.Y. All I can think of now. Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 07 Feb 07 - 06:53 PM I still vote Tom Deacon as the littlest-known 1960s singer. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Madison memories Date: 08 Feb 07 - 06:52 AM Hey Frank, thanks for mentioning Eric Schoenberg in one of your earlier posts. I knew him in Madison back in the 60's but had forgotten all about him in the intervening 40 years. He was a really nice guy, and a serious musician. If you knew him, maybe you knew other Madison people like Phil Buss, Mel Storch, and Johnny Kalb too? Johnny, a great guitar player like his older brother Danny--who formed the Blues Project with Al Kooper, and played with other big names, so he was quite well known back then--is still playing actively too. They both have great websites. I enjoyed reading all your lists, and I for one do remember Richard Dyer Bennet because we had a couple of his albums along with all the Weavers, Josh White, Odetta, Baez, etc. But I have to say that some of the other folks you mention were a bit more than little known. In particular I would take exception to your mention of Mike Bloomfield as "sort of famous as a blues muscian". Not to get to heavy about it, but if being a founding member of the Butterfield Blues Band and being immortalized for playing with Dylan on his first great electric albums is "sort of" fame, then most any unknown would do just about anything to get to be just "sort of" famous like he was. Hell, the guy could play rings around Eric "boring" Clapton anyday. Course, one could do without the fame including ODing on smack, which was a really sad end for such a talented person to have. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Stefan Wirz Date: 08 Feb 07 - 06:59 AM how about the following: - Major Wiley - Joan Toliver (Joan Sommer) - Terrea Lea - Logan English - Paul Clayton |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Madison Memories Date: 08 Feb 07 - 07:26 AM Some others: Lisa Gilkyson, who lived south of Santa Fe in the late 70's and 80's, had her own recording studio and played around the area. Gabby Pahinui, the great Hawaiian guitarist (really not so little known for those in the know) Clifton Chenier, the great zydeco accordian man (probably too well known to be listed here but I'm doing it to memorialize him cause he was so great) and his brother Cleveland (master of the washboard) Flaco Jimenez, king of the Norteño squeezebox players--a true master Freddy Fender (Baldemar Huerta) he mixed country and Norteño and was great. He died recently, RIP. Jim and Jesse the Country Gentlemen Jimmy Rodgers -- the Singing Brakeman, not the papsinger Peter Rowan the Greenbriar Boys Rambling Jack Eliot Mary McCaslin and Jim Ringer Utah Phillips |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 09 Feb 07 - 12:32 PM Fox Watson, an absolute MONSTER clawhammer banjo player, based somewhere in New England when I met him, though he may have been from the Carolinas originally. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: maeve Date: 09 Feb 07 - 05:50 PM " You know Sandy Paton might be included. Everyone knows him for his Folk Legacy but he was a fine interpreter of British Isle ballads." He still is, as far as I know. He and Caroline are lovely people and lovely musicians. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jim Date: 09 Feb 07 - 06:00 PM Sorry if she's already been mentioned, but the late Karen Dalton has always been one of my favourites. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 09 Feb 07 - 07:22 PM Frank H ... I'm pleased that you mnetioned Guy Carawan. Back in 59 and on into the 60's he was anything but little known He traveled out here to the Seattle area in 1960. Don Firth and I had a great weekend of music with him when we all traveled up to British Columbia. I would also like to add a VERY obscure name: "Bill Higley." He was the man most responsible for my interest in folk music. He was an early sidekick of "Haywire Mac." CHEERS, Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mick Tems Date: 09 Feb 07 - 09:00 PM Just discovered this thread... great! Crane Driver, Betsy and Seamus Kennedy: Lea Nicholson was a truly original concertina player and one of my favourites - I saw him at the Valley Folk Club at Pontardawe (which must have in the 1970s.) However, he soon tired of the folk scene and soon disappeared. I saw Joanne Kelly at Bunjies cellar, London - what a stunning blues player and singer she was. She was sister to Dave Kelly of the John Dummer Blues Band, and guested on Cabal, one of their LPs. She tragically died of a brain tumour. I used to hang around Bunjies in my just-discovering-folk days. Mike Absalom used to be a regular guest - can anybody remember what happened to him? After that it was the Goodmayes Methodist Folk Club, ably compered by John Singleton, who moved out to Braintree. There I saw guitarist Nick Pickett, whose deft work on the fiddle as he played the Four-Hand Reel really amazed me - I tell you, it was early days! I think Nick recorded an album. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: voyager Date: 10 Feb 07 - 07:51 AM DAVE ZEITLIN - McCabe's Guitar Teacher & Folk Performer Thanks to Frank Hamilton for adding Dave's name to the conversation. Around 1968 I took my first guitar lessons in a UCLA lecture hall auditorium with Dave Zeitlin teaching 100+ students in plucking the strings to Freight Train and Goodnight Irene. Here's a walk down that memory lane... McCabe's GuitarShop Performers (1969-present) voyager |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,zalby Date: 10 Feb 07 - 08:17 AM Mentioned earlier in the thread was the band " The Fivepenny Piece". there has been some recent releases by some of the original band members including...John Meeks with " Just Me & Some O` me Songs". Information can be found on a re-vitalised web site www.5pp.co.uk. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Midchuck Date: 10 Feb 07 - 09:16 AM I still vote Tom Deacon as the littlest-known 1960s singer. Nahh. I was. Peter. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 10 Feb 07 - 12:20 PM don't any of you know any normal sized folksingers? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 15 Feb 07 - 01:16 PM Hi Kids! I'm still going strong in a new kinda way. Folk Singer? Well, O.K. I always thought of myself as a Blues Singer. Freaky to see my name show up,,,Thanks bobad. Erik Frandsen, New York, right? U played the Yellow Door along with Jesse Winchester, Bruce Murdoch, Penny Lang, Tex Koenig, Paul Geremia, Dennis Brown, and a cast of thousands. And, let us not forget... little known at the time, but then went on...Bruce Cockburn, Murray McLaughlin, Bill Staines, Roy Book Binder, Ken Lyon, Jaime Michaels and the list goes on. You can check Folk Roots and Folk Branches with Mike Regenstrief on CKUT via myspace, and my new thingy wingy at http://www.myspace.com/bobryszkiewicz. And in the words of Bob Hope..."Thanks for the memories", and Groucho Marx,"I would never be a member of any organization that would have ME as a member." Bye 4 now. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 15 Feb 07 - 03:17 PM Bob: It's good to see you are still around and making excellent music, "The Ghost Of Elvis" is a fine piece of work. Maybe we'll see you at the Ormstown Branches and Roots Music festival this summer. Check out this year's lineup at http://ormstownmusicfestival.com/Roots_bios_e.htm |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Azizi Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:27 PM Here's your link, Bob http://www.myspace.com/bobryszkiewicz Nice place, u have there! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Psychomorris Date: 16 Feb 07 - 04:44 AM Does anyone one remember Colin Scott? An American doing a tour in the uk instead of vietnam. Good singer/ guitarist with many self penned pieces of anti war and protest songs. ( 'Hey Sandy, Hey Sandy why were you the one? All those years of growing up are wasted now and gone'. Did you see them turn, did you feel the burn of the bullets as they flew?') Have the national guard improved much since the late 60,s or just continue to jump to politicians orders ? Sorry wrong subject place. Psychomorris |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 16 Feb 07 - 05:22 AM Mentioned earlier in the thread was the band " The Fivepenny Piece". there has been some recent releases by some of the original band members including...John Meeks with " Just Me & Some O` me Songs". Information can be found on a re-vitalised web site www.5pp.co.uk. There's also a compilation CD that came out last year from EMI, with some good stuff on it (Old Tom The Weaver, Ashton Mashers, Brown Photographs, Mi Gronny, etc.) - details at the same website Yes, the 5PP were little known in the 1960s; they became well known in the 1970s though. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Guest Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:38 AM Very pleased to see Lea Nicholson given a name check on this thread. He was a resident at Merlin's in Clerkenwell around 1973, along with other little known folkies like Richard Thompson and Ssimon Nicol. He used to play a mean "Dam Busters March" on his squeezebox! One week I think he and RT did "Coronation Scot" together (ancient light music piece about a British streamline train, for the colonials' benefit). Strangely enough Bill Vanaver and Livia Drapkin also appeared at Merlin's - I seem to remember that they were heavily into Cretan music, and Livia (or was it Bill)played a bouzouki/bouzar/mandolin/whatever using a goose quill as a pick. And what about the ineffable Tom Paley? Did he learn to play the fiddle eventually? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:43 AM Seth Lakeman was little known in the 1960s. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 16 Feb 07 - 11:39 AM Bob Ryszkiewicz: The Yellow Door, oh yeah, that place. And the Back Door was the sister club just across campus, right? Chris Rawlings and Penny Rose were living in the former German embassy. They put a nice throw rug over the big-ass swastika on the floor in the lobby. Do you remember Lindsay Cameron, the piper? Still alive, is he? Who else...? Willie Dunn, crazed Micmac? Got kicked out of the Indian Museum with Pat Sky for cursing the exhibits in some arcane language called Proto-Lakota that they probably made up themselves? Remember that guy? Nice fella and not a mean drunk at all. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:58 PM ERIK: Yes. Willie Dunn, Bruce Murdoch(33&1/3 Revolutions per Minute/Che Guevara/Can I Come Across To You?), Patrick Sky, Lindsay Cameron(piper/banjo/woodsman/hunter/friend), Jack Nissenson(Mountain City Four/Wade Hemsworth/Kate and Anna McGarrigle/Chaim Tannenbaum), Chris Rawlings, Penny Rose(Rose's Cantina/Morin Heights),Tex Koenig(knew Dylan, Allan Ginsberg, Tulie Kupferberg, food, always carried chopsticks, Bobby Roberts(Hey Joe), and most of The Village, NYC). And where are they now? Heaven and scattered everywhere. But if they somehow could all be gathered in some mystical way...What a party THAT would be. And lest we forget, Fred Neil(The Dolphins/Midnight Cowboy), and Paul Seibel. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 17 Feb 07 - 11:27 PM Mudcat People: Just heard of the passing of John Foley, one of the originators, if not THE originator of The Yellow Door Coffeehouse in Montreal. I believe the place started in 1967. There was a room, some yellow paint, and so, The Yellow Door was born. John sang, wrote songs, and played an old Guild. He was kind-hearted, funny, talented, intense, and a fine man. It was an honor to have known him. Without him, there would have been no Yellow Door. Please help to get the word out...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bob dylan Date: 18 Feb 07 - 12:36 AM I was in England in 1962 doing some TV play. I got a train to Eltham and heard this young kid in the park singing. He was Dave Kennington. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: alanabit Date: 18 Feb 07 - 03:46 AM I saw Colin Scott at The Last Waterhole in Amsterdam in 1980. He had a fiddle player and an electric guitarist with him. I heard from others that he was there for some time after that, but I don't know anything else. He was pretty good on stage, but he looked as if he had lived a bit then. I wonder where he ended up? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: alanabit Date: 18 Feb 07 - 04:36 AM This link, , if I have understood it, seems to be telling me that Colin Scott succumbed to a certain lifestyle in 1999. I don't speak Dutch, but from my knowledge of German and Rhein dialect, that seems to be what it is saying. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Susanne (skw) Date: 20 Feb 07 - 07:55 PM Wasn't the song referred to by psychomorris above - Hey Sandy - written by Harvey Andrews? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Rowan Date: 21 Feb 07 - 01:22 AM Brent Davey, banjo player now with the Panton Hill Umbrella Club Jeannie Lewis Margret Roadknight Willem Lankhourst (the last three all singers) all performing in Melbourne during the 60s |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 21 Feb 07 - 12:19 PM Margret RoadKnight - The Official Website She's still up and doin'. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Rowan Date: 21 Feb 07 - 05:13 PM Thanks Peace. But she hadn't been mentioned on the thread so I thought I should. There's also Denis Gibbons and Alec Hood, come to think of it. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 21 Feb 07 - 05:24 PM I think it's wonderful you did mention her, Rowan. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: MARINER Date: 22 Feb 07 - 04:50 AM Dick Cameron ,a Canadian ? and Sharon Colen (sp)an American? both sang around Dublin in the 60s .Does anyone know what became of them ? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 22 Feb 07 - 05:04 AM There was this bloke I once saw in a folk club in the 1960s. I only saw him once, and I can't remember his name now. I reckon he wasn't very well known, so he probably qualifies for inclusion in this thread, whoever he is (or was, for all I know he may have passed away since then). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 22 Feb 07 - 03:38 PM Joe Klee. Played Uke, wrote songs, smoked an awful cigar, now writes interesting articles for the "Mississipi Rag" and other jazz publications. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Rowan Date: 22 Feb 07 - 04:26 PM Scrump, that might have been the same bloke I once saw in some folk club in the 60s. I can't remember the name of the club; can't even remember his, now. Must be getting old. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: The Sandman Date: 22 Feb 07 - 05:28 PM yes nick pickett, living in stratford, east london,but he was still performing in the seventies and eighties.[maybe still is now] heres one, Jeff Dale organiser of Downe folk club,blues singer twelve string guitarist. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 22 Feb 07 - 07:12 PM Frank -- not sure, but I think Joe Klee may not still be among us. The VOL. XXXII: NOVEMBER 2004-OCTOBER 2005 No. 8 issue of The Mississippi Rag contains an article titled "farewell to Joe Klee" and his reviews seem no longer to be appearing. There are several mentions of him in this thread and three pictures of him in Art's photo gallery (put "Klee" into the search box to find them). —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 25 Feb 07 - 08:54 PM A few more names that maybe belong here -- most pictured in Art's gallery: Jim Brewer 1 Tossi Aaron 2 Benjie Aaronoff 3 Joe Aaronson 4 Mike Absalom 5 Derroll Adams 6 Addiss & Crowfut 7 Mike Agranoff 8 Ted Alevizos 9 Clark Allen 10 Peter Alsop, 11 Casey Anderson 12 Arkansas Red 13 Alan Arkin 14 George & Gerry Armstrong 15 Jennifer Armstrong 16 John Ashford 17 Sally Ashford 18 Mary Asquith 19 Bob Atcher 20 George Austin 21 Hoyt Axton 22 Bruce Baker 23 Paula Ballan 24 Horton Barker 25 Robbie Basho 26 Peter Berg 27 Roy Berkeley 28 Marcia Berman 29 Leon Bibb 30 Theodore Bikel 31 Bill & Livia 32 Roy Book Binder 33 Ann Bird/Byrd 34 Blind Blake 35 Richard Blaustein 36 Ralph Blizzard 37 Allan Block 38 Mike Bloomfield 39 David Blue (David Cohen) 40 Geoff Bodenham 41 Ray Boguslav 42 Buddy Bohn 43 Bill Bonyun 44 Hank Bradley 45 Jim Brentano 46 Jim Brewer 47 Anne Briggs 48 Judy Bright 49 George Britton 50 Jamie Brockett 51 Saul Broudie 52 Bill Brown 53 Dennis Brown 54 Fleming Brown 55 Toni Brown 56 Tedd Browne 57 Ian Buchanan 58 Tim Buckley 59 Buckwheat 60 Bud & Travis (Edmonson) 61 Valucha Buffington 62 June Bugg 63 Sandy Bull 64 Don Burnham 65 Martha Burns 66 Howie Bursen 67 Allan Burton 68 Doug Bush 69 Phil Buss 70 Anne Byrd 71 Rolf Cahn 72 Dick Cameron 73 Lindsay Cameron 74 Alex Campbell 75 Guy & Candie Carawan 76 John Carbo 77 Peter Carbone 78 Bob Carey 79 "Ti Jean" Johnnie Carignan 80 Shlomo Carlbach 81 Pat Chamberlain 82 Len Chandler 83 Clifton Chenier 84 Marilyn Child 85 Charlie Chin 86 Bill Chipman 87 William Clausen 88 John Clay 89 Paul Clayton 90 Ray Clayton 91 Bill Clifton 92 Adam Cochran 93 Bruce Cockburn 94 Andy Cohen 95 David Cohen (David Blue) 96 John Cohen 97 Sharon Colen 98 Jimmy Collier 99 Earl Collins 100 Bob Coltman 101 Peggy Compton 102 Brian Cookman 103 Pat Cooksey 104 Mike Cooper 105 Xavier Coudril 106 Pam Coulihan 107 the Country Gentlemen 108 Chris Couveau 109 John Cowles 110 Joe Craven 111 Slim Critchlow 112 Al Cromwell 113 Steve Culver 114 Sis Cunningham 115 Jeff Dale 116 Karen Dalton 117 Shoshanna Damari 118 Allan Dameron 119 Allen Damron 120 Barbara Dane 121 Charlotte Daniels 122 Erik Darling 123 Brent Davey 124 Diane Davidson 125 Jeff Davis 126 Patti (Reagan) Davis 127 Tim Dawe 128 Jim Dawson 129 Al Day 130 Tom Deacon 131 Peter Debin 132 Rich Dehr 133 Bill Destler 134 Justin Devereaux 135 Hazel Dickens 136 Alex Dobkin 137 Bonnie Dobson 138 Terry Dolan 139 Ted Donlan 140 Mark Dorinson 141 K.C. Douglas 142 Paul Downes 143 Livia Drapkin 144 Crane Driver 145 John Dunkerley 146 Willie Dunn 147 Josh Dunson 148 John Dwyer 149 Richard Dyer-Bennett 150 Snooks Eaglin 151 John Eberhart 152 Joe Elias 153 Rambling Jack Eliot 154 Logan English 155 Rick Epping 156 Jerry Epstein 157 Sam Eskin 158 Billy Faier 159 Richard Farina 160 Bruce Farwell 161 Luke Faust 162 Pete Feldmann 163 Julie Felix 164 Freddy Fender 165 Don Firth 166 Judy Flenniken 167 John Foley 168 Pat Foster 169 Eric Frandsen 170 Jackson C. Frank 171 Ray Frank 172 Dave Frederickson 173 Marshal Freedland 174 Ruthann Friedman 175 Big Wally Friedricks 176 Alan Friend 177 Jesse Fuller 178 Sean Gagnier 179 Eddie Gair 180 Vin Garbutt 181 Peter & Isabelle Gardiner 182 Amos Garrett 183 Pat Garvey 184 The Gateway Singers 185 Paul Geremia 186 Freddie Gerlach 187 Alice Gerrard 188 Thom Ghent 189 Denis Gibbons 190 Bob Gibson 191 Jackie Gibson 192 Lisa Gilkyson 193 Terry Gilkyson 194 Kenny Girard 195 Dottie Gittleson 196 Tom Glaser 197 Dick Glass 198 Lynn Gold 199 Barry Goldberg 200 The Goldcoast Singers 201 Cynthia Gooding 202 Ruthie Gordon 203 Louis Gossett 204 Klaus Van Graft 205 Red Grammer 206 Dan Gravas 207 Arvella Gray 208 Peter Greenberg 209 The Greenbriar Boys 210 Al Grierson 211 Bob Grossman 212 Roy Guest 213 Iberus Hacker 214 Derek Hall 215 Tom Hall 216 John Hammond Jr 217 Colonel Bruce Hampton 218 Clabe Hangan 219 Larry Hanks 220 Tim Hardin 221 Jack Hardy 222 Lee Haring 223 Bess Hawes 224 John Hayday 225 Joe Heany 226 Freddie Hellerman 227 Wade Hemsworth 228 Stewart Hendrickson 229 Judy Henske 230 John Herald 231 Johnny Herald & the Greenbriar Boys 232 Carolyn Hester 233 Bill Higley 234 Sam Hinton 235 George Hirsch 236 Moe Hirsch 237 Bob Hoban 238 Lori Holland 239 Fred Holstein 240 Tim Holt 241 Will Holt 242 Alec Hood 243 Doc Hopkins 244 Zylphia Horton 245 Sonny Houston 246 Ray Wylie Hubbard 247 Blair Hull 248 Joe Jaffe 249 Joyce James 250 Karen James 251 Stan James 252 Bert Jansch 253 Micheal Janusz 254 Ella Jenkins 255 Jim & Jesse 256 Flaco Jimenez 257 Joe & Eddie 258 Ted Johnson 259 Dynamite Annie Johnston 260 Bob Jones 261 Mike Jordan 262 Si Kahn 263 Danny Kalb 264 Johnny Kalb 265 John Kalish 266 Dodi Kallick 267 Kathy & Carol 268 Eric Kaz 269 Michael Kaz 270 Larry Keane 271 Mike Kellen 272 Joanne Kelly 273 Luke Kelly 274 Elliot Kenin 275 Betsy & Seamus Kennedy 276 Norman Kennedy 277 Dave Kenningham 278 Dave Kennington 279 Louie Killen 280 John Kirkpatrick 281 Rev. 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Kirkpatrick 282 Joe Klee 283 Borden Klotweiller 284 The Knob Lick Upper Ten Thousand 285 Tex Koenig 286 Bonnie Koloc 287 Alex Korner 288 Barry Kornfeld 289 Bernie Krause 290 Adam Kreiswirth 291 Al Kuda/Casey/Cooper 292 Jim Kweskin 293 Peter LaFarge 294 Steve Lalor 295 Myrna Lande 296 Penny Lang 297 Bruce Langehorn 298 John Langstaff 299 Willem Lankhourst 300 Gary Lapow 301 Terrea Lea 302 Donal Leace 303 Perry Lederman 304 Katie Lee 305 Rick & Lorraine Lee 306 Mike Leib 307 Perry Letterman 308 Jeannie Lewis 309 Ernie Lieberman 310 Bob Lind 311 Dave Lindley 312 Lingo The Drifter 313 Manse Lipscomb 314 Barry Lister 315 Marie Little 316 Gerry Lockran 317 Paul Lolax 318 Johnny Long 319 Jez Lowe 320 Bob Lusk 321 Roger Luzwick 322 Mel Lyman 323 Ken Lyon 324 Bill Lyons 325 Margaret MacArthur 326 The MacCalmans 327 Jimmy MacDonald 328 Spanky MacFarlane 329 Scott MacKenzie 330 Ewan MacVicar 331 Bill Madison 332 Bob Malenky 333 Molly Malone 334 Steve Mandel 335 Steve Mann 336 Jo Mapes 337 Marais & Miranda 338 Phil Marsh 339 Peter Marston 340 Sue Martin (or Robbins) 341 Bob Martin 342 Vince Martin 343 Bert Mason 344 Chuck Massey 345 Ric Masten 346 Tom Mayes 347 Jim McCarthy 348 Mary McCaslin 349 Mary McCaslin 350 Ed McCurdy 351 John McCutcheon 352 Carolyn McDade, 353 Kate & Anna McGarrigle 354 Matt McGinn 355 Jim McGrath 356 Roger (Jimmy) McGuinn 357 "Round Mound of Renown" Pat McGuinn 358 Fran McKendree 359 Joe & Antoinette McKenna 360 Raun McKinnan 361 Will McLain 362 Murray McLaughlin 363 James McMurtry 364 Paul McNeil 365 Paul McNeill 366 John Meeks 367 Mike Melford 368 Memphis Slim 369 Jerry Merrick 370 Jaime Michaels 371 Kent Michaels 372 Nancy Michaels 373 Jerry Middaugh 374 Micheal Miles 375 Reggie Miles 376 Adam Miller 377 Frank Miller 378 Alan Mills 379 Chuck Mitchell 380 Howie Mitchell 381 Chuck Mitman 382 Little Brother Montgomery 383 Serrafyn Mork 384 Artus Moser 385 Eddie Motteau 386 Bruce Murdoch 387 Ron & Nama 388 Fred Neil 389 Bob Nelson 390 Mike Nelson 391 Tracy Nelson 392 Lea Nicholson 393 Jack Nissenson 394 Rab Noakes 395 Don Normark 396 Mary O'Hara 397 Jackie Pack 398 Jim Page 399 Gabby Pahinui 400 Tom Paley 401 Red Parham 402 Roy Parker 403 Nick Parry-Jones 404 Len Partridge 405 Sandy Paton 406 Gordon Heath & Lee Payant 407 Drew Payton 408 Ken Pearlman 409 "Crazy" George Pegram 410 Ken Penney 411 Brock Peters 412 Utah Phillips 413 Nick Pickett 414 John Pilla 415 Dave "Buck" Polley 416 Shelly Posen 417 Pozo-Seco Singers 418 Paul Prestipino 419 Dave Prine 420 John Prine 421 Nancy Quense 422 Dave "Maverick Child" Rae 423 Ethel Raim 424 Obray Ramsey 425 Stu "Darsono" Ramsey 426 Willis Alan Ramsey 427 Jerry Rau 428 Chris Rawlings 429 Dave "Missing Keys" Ray 430 Dave "Snaker" Ray 431 Susan Reed 432 Mike Reedy 433 Randy Rice 434 Jerry Ricks 435 Almeda Riddle 436 Jim Ringer 437 Ralph Rinzler 438 Edna Ritchie 439 Margret Roadknight 440 Gil Robbins 441 Brian Roberts 442 Chick Roberts 443 Pete Roberts 444 Robin Roberts 445 Carol Robertson 446 Walt Robertson 447 Earl Robinson 448 Frank Robinson 449 Jim Roche 450 Rocky Rockwood 451 Judy Roderick 452 Jimmie Rodgers 453 Grant Rogers 454 Jim Rooney 455 Penny Rose 456 Art Rosenbaum 457 Stuart Rosenberg 458 Dick Rosmini 459 Alan Rotman 460 Peter Rowan 461 Ruth Rubin 462 Rambling Sid Rumpo 463 Mike Russo 464 Lee Ruth 465 Bob Ruzicka 466 Bob Ryszkiewicz 467 Tony & Irene Saletan 468 Beverlie Salmon 469 Betty Sanders 470 Micheal Saul 471 Sonja Savig 472 Norman Schell 473 Martha Schlamme 474 Rick von Schmidt 475 Helen Schneyer 476 Eric Schoenberg 477 Tony Schwartz 478 Colin Scott 479 Molly Scott 480 Dave Sears 481 Nicky Seeger 482 Mike Spoons Seeley 483 Paul Seibel 484 Brother John Sellers 485 Mike Settle 486 Anita Shear 487 Helen Shneyer 488 Paul Siebel 489 Effie Siegerman 490 Marc Silber 491 Pat Sky 492 Mike Slawson 493 Jay Small 494 Janet Smith 495 Michael Smith 496 Oriel Smith 497 Osborne Smith 498 Chris Smither 499 Kit Snow 500 Paul Snow 501 Leni Ashmore Sorensen 502 Dave Spence 503 Joseph Spence 504 Mark Spoelstra 505 Roger Sprung 506 Bill Staines 507 Pete Stampfel 508 Jack Stanesco 509 Doc Stanley 510 Fred Starner 511 John Stauber 512 Bill Steele 513 Alice Stewart 514 Poor Howard Stith 515 Mel Storch 516 Dwain Story 517 Win Strake 518 Michael Strange 519 Jennifer Sullivan 520 Marc Sullivan 521 Steve "Richmond" Talbot 522 T.A. Talbott 523 Gene Tambour 524 Chaim Tannenbaum 525 Ray Tate 526 Joan Toliver 527 Peter Tork 528 Artie Traum 529 Happy Traum 530 Ed Trickett 531 Harry Tufts 532 Gil Turner 533 Rick Turner 534 Ivan Ulz 535 Jay Unger 536 "Sonny" Vale 537 Woody Wachtel 538 Terry Wadsworth 539 Margaret Wagner 540 Andy Wallice 541 Jerry Walter 542 Jackie Washington 543 Fox Watson 544 Laura Weber 545 Eric Weisberg 546 Grant Weisbrot 547 Dick Weisman 548 John Weiss 549 Dick Weissman 550 Fred Weisz 551 Jenny Vincent Wells 552 Harry & Jeannie West 553 Hedy West 554 Laura Wetzler 555 Terry Whelan 556 Bob White 557 Gary White 558 Wade White 559 Dave Wiffen 560 Major Wiley 561 Big Joe Williams 562 Pozo-Seco Singers with Don Williams 563 David Williamson 564 Colin Wilson 565 Stan Wilson 566 Tyler Wilson 567 Jesse Winchester 568 John Winn 569 Elise Witt 570 Hally Stepherson Wood 571 Heather Wood 572 Nimrod Workman 573 Hal Wylie 574 Glen Yarborough 575 Gene Yellin 576 Jerry Yester 577 The York County Boys 578 Malka & Yoso 579 Steve Young 580 Oranim (Guela Gill) Zabar 581 Bob Zaidman 582 Henry Zapotnik 583 Dave Zeitlin 584 Patty Zeitlin 585 Bob Zentz |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Rowan Date: 26 Feb 07 - 12:50 AM Half the Melbourne Uni Mountaineering Club were folk singers in the 1960s, well before the onset of the likes of Brian Mooney, Danny Spooner and Gordon McIntyre. That was how I found out that what I was singing at parties and field trips was known by others as folk music. Come to think of it, I seem to recall Brad Tate giving a paper on much the same theme, and he was active in the 60s. I haven't heard Bob Vincent on his mouthorgan since about 1968. Pity! Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Kevin Sheils Date: 26 Feb 07 - 04:54 AM That was me Rowan and Scrump. Or maybe someone else! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Little Robyn Date: 26 Feb 07 - 06:40 AM Abby mentioned Alan Arkin. Maybe he's better known today, as an actor - he just won an Oscar! But he used to be a lovely singer. Robyn |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 26 Feb 07 - 09:01 AM That was me Rowan and Scrump. Or maybe someone else! Well it could have been you Kevin - are you little known? If so, that would appear to clinch it. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 26 Feb 07 - 09:19 AM Alan Arkin was/is indeed a fine singer. I have his album: "Folk Songs ... Once Over Lightly" Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Kevin Sheils Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:30 AM There are a few hundred people in a better position than me to answer that! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 27 Feb 07 - 02:20 PM "Do you remember Lindsay Cameron, the piper? Still alive, is he?" Lindsay died many years ago. A heart attack in his early-50s if I recall correctly. Was a good banjo and guitar player too. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Philj200 Date: 27 Feb 07 - 02:54 PM Anyone mention David Blue? His Grand Hotel is still haunting. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:28 PM David Blue, the artist originally known as "David Cohen" when he made his debut on an LP with Richard Farina, Patrick Sky and Bruce Murdoch. He died some years ago while jogging in Washington Square Park. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Philj200 Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:55 PM More than some years ago. He played guitar for a while with Country Joe. I remember his wedding taking place in a Chinese Restaurant on Broadway in the upper west side of Manhattan. He was a big bear of a guy. I once worked at a luthier's shop where some good musicians hung out (B'way in the lower 20's), guys like Rob Hunter ... David came by often. He liked a 12-string conversion (from a Gibson J185) we were just finishing. And walked out with it! He did a gig downtown and returned it the next day. But it did cause a major (explictive delited) storm. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: pdq Date: 27 Feb 07 - 04:17 PM There are (were) at least three David Cohens, all played guitar. David Blue actually changed his name back to Cohen a few times. Died as stated above. Another was a studio ace in southern California. Many jazz people as well as folkies took lessons from this man. Another one, David Bennett Cohen was a fine flatpicker from New York who moved out to California about 1965 and became the keyboard player in "Country Joe and the Fish". web site here |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Philj200 Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:54 AM The same David Cohen or Blue who wrote Grand Hotel played with Country Joe. I remember seeing him and the Fish at a sold out concert in Central Park. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:04 PM Thanks, pdq, for sorting out all the David Cohens. David Blue called himself "S.David Cohen" for a while. To keep from confusing him with the guy from the Fish, Steve Mann would ask: which one do you mean, Country Joe Cohen or David Blue, New York Jew? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: pdq Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:57 PM Here is a paragraph from Carol Kaye's web site confirming the third David Cohen as a studio musician in southern California (although he did teach guitar to some folkies). {quote, Carol Kaye}"These are some of the musicians playing on your favorite past recordings, movies, TV shows: Guitar:>Rene Hall, Howard Roberts, Bud Coleman, Tommy Tedesco, Barney Kessel, Tony Rizzi, Billy Strange, Glen Campbell, Allen Reuss, Bobby Gibbons, Bob Bain, Dennis Budimer, John Gray, Bill Pitman, Al Casey, Al Hendrikson, Irving Ashby, Mundell Lowe, Mike Anthony, Lou Morell, Al Viola, Ray Pohlman, Arthur Wright, Nick Bonney, Toots Thielemans, Don Peake, Charles Wright, James Burton, Dean Parks, Mitch Holder, Mike D'Asey, David Cohen>, Jerry Cole, Charley Chiarenza, Neil LeVang, David T. Walker, Larry Carlton, John Collins, Jim Helms, Al Vescovo, Louie Shelton." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 07 Mar 07 - 01:05 PM Norm Schell Tony Robino Janet Blair Mike Fairbanks Mike Orlen Carl Watanabe Bill Nixon |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lisa null Date: 08 Mar 07 - 01:23 PM Hi: Boy does this thread conjure up old memories --especiay of Tex who i knew quite well in Boulder (1960), I was a freshman at theUniversity (briefly) and he had just finished gunsmithing school. In Boulder there was another talented singer named Judy Roderick who I learned a lot of songs from only to discover, later, that they had come from Sandy Paton who had been spending time in Aspen. What a great musical scne Boulder was back then -- not just at the coffee houses and bars, (there and in Denver), but at the the University itself....both at the folk music jams and with the YPSL's (Young People's Socialist League). Jackie Washington played in Denver at that time, and i think Dave Guth did too. later, when i transferred back east to school (Sarah Lawrence), I remember jamming with a wonderful folksinger named Carly Simon who played with her sister soon after that as the Simon Sisters. As for Martha Burns. she now lives in DC and is one of my good friends. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lisa null Date: 08 Mar 07 - 01:27 PM Oh yes, if there was one singer (who had a Folkways record) i would like to see from back then, it is Stanley Tripp of Vancouver. I wore that album out. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 08 Mar 07 - 02:37 PM Ah yes, the Hedge & Donna thread reminds us of folk duos: Hedge & Donna Pam & Ray (the Claytons) Bill & Renee (Bill Staines and Renee Beghosian) Mike & Chris (later Orlen & Gabriel) Williams & Vallen |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 08 Mar 07 - 03:46 PM Hey lisa: MEMORIES OF TEX KOENIG I met Tex in or around 1967. He was so New York and Village. Spoke of Bobby Roberts(Hey Joe), Dylan, Tuli Kupferberg(Fugs), Ginsberg, Hendrix, and was always laughing. We did some shows together, one where we came back real early, like 5 in the morning. I said "Tex, I'm baffed, I need to sleep NOW." So he said "O.K., I got one bed, if we sleep on it sideways, we can get a couple of hours, then you can drive home." So, I can say in the nicest way that I slept with Tex Koenig! It was such a wacko memory. Sideways in a bed with a 6'4" 360lb. New Yorker. Tex was always about food..."You know Bob, It's not a TRUE wop sauce if it doesn't have any pork in it." (All you Italians out there, he loved ya.) Gunsmith, we talked hours about knives, Randals, the Art. So, one night we went to Chinatown. We worked together doing studio stuff, it was called Soundbox '71. In McGill's studios, here in Montreal. So Chinatown was always the thing. We both studied AIKIDO with Max Villadorata here in Montreal. My girlfriend at the time studied with Lee Siu Pak, "Master Lee" Yang style Tai Chi Chuan. So, we're in Chinatown, and Tex had brought in some "Flying Stars", a martial arts weapon that is thrown. We're into the food and Tex whips these things out. Master Lee, who spoke very little English, says "I know this" So Tex, who is sitting opposite him around one of those immense tables that are common in Chinatown, passes one of the weapons to Master Lee by handing it to one of the approximate 15 people around the table, who one by one, get it to Master Lee. Mister/Master Lee says, "like this," and motions to throw the star, which slips from his hand because of some grease on his fingers from the food. I'm sitting next to Tex and this thing comes straight at us...but curves, and heads straight for Tex, who catches it after it bounces off his chest, and lands in his beard, nicking his throat. A spot of blood appears, a nick really.(Saved by a beard) Everybody laughs, especially Mister Lee. The "oops factor" in martial arts, where the guy who is supposed to have control makes one teensy slip. What a memory! We also hung around the Back Door, another club in Montreal. Tex got a job behind the coffee bar. I was opening for Jerry Jeff Walker, who just got a hit with Mr. Bojangles, and rides in on this huge Honda bike, he'd just bought after a gig in Ottawa...Others who played the club...Doc Watson, along with Merle, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee, John Hammond, David(Maverick Child)Rae(a killer player), Jesse Winchester and many others. Club's gone now, still got the memories. Paul Geremia, my old friend/teacher from Providence was there too, Tex always called him "Pauly". So Paul tells this story about this gay guy who gets on a bus in New York with an umbrella, and forgets it while paying his fare. The Bus Driver, with the Brooklyn accent says," Hey Cinderella, ya forgot yer magic wand!" The gay guy walks up to him, touches him with the umbrella's handle and says," POOF, you're a piece of sh*t." You can only get this kind of stuff with Folk Music kids! Tex Koenig. I will NEVER forget him. Goodnight everybody. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 08 Mar 07 - 05:13 PM Hey Kids! Don't wanna take up too much room here, but this thread got the 'ole memory going and I thought you might enjoy this. Reverend Gary Davis played the Back Door too. He's got this big Bozo guitar that he's using and I've got my '65 Gibson J-50. The Rev says, "Play sumpthin", so I start off with this riff, and he says, "don't you be playin' none of that Rock and Roll!, play the 'natrel Blues! He says, "you ain't from here, are you boy?" I go, no, I'm American. (The Marines had invited me to Saigon, because they thought I might be good at killing people. I thought playing the Blues was a better idea.) So Gary says "You know, anyplace you hang your hat is home." And, "All women are beautiful." You know, it took 30 years to realize, being blind, was he jiving me? But, no, he was going for a deeper spiritual truth...So, I take him for a ride in my trusty '60 Corvair, and we head back to my place near the mountain here in Montreal, where there's a massive steel cross that is lit every night. A Montreal landmark. I'm describing the scene to the Rev. and he just gets quiet. I didn't ever see him again. God Bless you Rev. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:18 PM Some great reminisences there Bob, thanks for that. I was living in downtown Montreal at the time (late 60's early 70's) and saw many of the acts you mentioned at the Back Door. I recall a John Hammond gig where the audience, at encore time, was requesting tunes that weren't exactly firing John up so I called for "Hootchie Cootchie Man" and John says "That's my man" and launches into his great version of that tune. My slight brush with fame. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:21 PM Thanks, Bob, for your posts! We seem to be missing some of the blues folks but maybe because they were too well known: Lightning Hopkins Brownie McGee Sonny Terry And I'm not sure if anyone mentiioned "Mac" McClintock ("Jerry, Won't You Oil the Car") There were a whole lot of folks in Ann Arbor and East Lansing but apparently no one in Michigan is posting on this thread. I may have to dredge 'em up myself! Is Charlie King too young to mention? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:44 PM "Oh yes, if there was one singer (who had a Folkways record) i would like to see from back then, it is Stanley Tripp of Vancouver. I wore that album out." Do you mean Stanley Triggs? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:57 PM Hey bobad/Charlie: Looks like I gotta write that book I was always thinking about. John Hammond is just great. We met at the Back Door. It might have been during one of those gigs, and strangely enough, I vaguely remember the incident you mentioned. We walked up the street during the break and I was asking him questions about how to get the vibratos he was getting. You think it's rubbing the string on the wood, but it's more like dancing on the string from the top like a clothesline/trampoline, a downward push. Just keep trying to do it, it will come. B.B. King's way is more on the board with the hand technique, and he gets that sound. The one thing, among many that I admired about John and Paul Geremia, was their ability to get that tone on the harp. Some guys used to dip the Marine Bands in water to get it. Both Paul and John can do it just like that. I just saw John in a video with him speaking to the audience. The years have calmed him down, he used to have a bit of a stutter. He was just talking away and it made me smile. When you have guys like John Hammond and Paul Geremia, who must have clocked millions of miles and thousands of shows...That's a "National Treasure" as the Chinese say. They, to me, are just as relevant and important as say, Robert Johnson. I should let somebody else say a few words. See ya. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 08 Mar 07 - 09:31 PM Get writing that book Bob, you're a great raconteur and you have some wonderful stories to tell. Put me down for a few copies at least. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Seonaid Date: 08 Mar 07 - 10:56 PM Wow! Memory Lane is crowded! Does anyone remember the Beers Family? Loved their stuff, but very few folks seem to remember them. Robert was the absolute king of the big psaltery. Liz Dyer -- egad! I could listen to her forever. Raun MacKinnon seemed a little embarrassed to be reminded a few years ago about the album she did when she was 18, but I still love it. For "little-known" in the folk venues but magnificent otherwise, I nominate Barry Hansen of the '60s UCLA folk song club, who is now (I believe) "Dr. Demento." Dave Elson of McCabe's was the first person I ever hear pick Irish jigs on the banjo. Smokin'! Do the Wurzels count as a folk group? Probably the most obscure group I ever heard (at either the Ash Grove or the Troubador in LA) was a pick-up band billed as the "Pseudo Mountain Boys". Their mandolinist later joined the Stone Ponies, and their bassist is a theater organist. I'm sure I'll think of more eventually -- this is a great anti-Alzheimer's exercise for those of us over 60! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Mar 07 - 09:03 AM Another one of my inspirations growing up in Maine has been Edward "Sandy" Ives, teacher and folklorist at the University of Maine at Orono. He's responsible for collecting many lumbering ballads from Maine and Canada, publishing and recording them as well. I suppose he's better known for his academic accomplishments but he's also a fine singer and an inspiration to generations of students, including myself. He also wrote a wonderful book about the ballad "The Bonny Earl of Murray." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 09 Mar 07 - 09:20 AM Do the Wurzels count as a folk group? Yes, IMO, but hardly a 'little known' one, even in the 1960s, when Adge Cutler was still their leader. They reached the British Top 40 pop charts with "Drink Up Thy Zider" in 1967. (Of course the Wurzels became even more well-known in the 1970s, after Adge's sad demise, and topped the UK charts with "Combine Harvester", a parody of Melanie's Brand New Key, written by Irishman Brendan O'Shaughnessy.) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 09 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM Paul Geremia has also been know to dip his "harp" into a glass of beer -- Tom |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 09 Mar 07 - 09:39 AM Since Charley Noble mentions it...I wasn't in Michigan in the 1960s (I'm there now) but some of the almost-famous folks from there and then are Chuck Mitchell (Joni's ex), Ron Coden (still around, still performing and a neighbor of mine) and Phil Marcus Esser (not sure where he is). The Raven Gallery was a premier folk venue in Southfield, a Detorit suburb. It's been a very good restaurant, Sweet Lorraine's, for many years. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 09 Mar 07 - 09:42 AM ....ah, Paul Geremia....."I wrote this song when I was so lonely there was two of me....." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 09 Mar 07 - 12:29 PM My God. Here I go again... The year was 1963. Everybody was pumped with the Kingston Trio. Charlie and the MTA...Oh, he'll never return, yeah he'll never return, and his fate is still unlearned, he may ride forever neath the streets of Boston(Bill Madison, Bill Staines, Sword in the Stone). I'm in High School. Two friends, Jerry and Dick and we form a group we call "The New Bad Trio" aptly named because nobody in the group could play an instrument. We did have a guitar, which nobody knew how to tune, which, I guess was irrelevant, because the three of us didn't know a single chord. So we let Dick HOLD the guitar, I played the bongos, and Jerry stood there doing backups to my vocals. We did a show in front of the whole school doing Charlie and the MTA with me on lead vocals. Smash hit. Girls coming up to us, telling us we were great. So I said to myself,"wait a minute, this might turn into something." So I try playing the guitar with the loose as a moose strings, mimicking chords. Just making noises. I find a friend, who had a guitar, a Gretch. he was taking lessons, and the guitar was in tune, And, the light shines through. He knew a CHORD! The Holy Grail!. Well, I learned that chord, my figures hurt because the strings were tight like steel. But, it wasn't until the second week of February 1966 that I began to play guitar. In College I met another guy who knew 3 CHORDS! As I forced my hands to change from one chord to the next, a struggle. But hour upon hour of repetition, deep desire, and persistence got me to the point of playing a progression, A clear breakthrough. I played my first "gig" in the girl's dorm, so scared that my knees were hitting together, shaking. There was a coffeehouse. And this guy called Paul Geremia, was going to be playing there. I always carried a notebook where I would draw pictures of the chords, and later try to play them. I made sure I was in the front row when Paul began to play. When I saw that, it was like seeing God. I wrote in the book, "Forget it." What he was doing was way beyond what I could even write down or draw, I followed him out the door, asking many questions. That's where it all began, and I'm sure many of you reading this have a similar story. It is why Folk Music is important. It is why you are participating in this. It is beyond music. It is Life. From the sea shantys of the Brits, to the Bluesmen of the Delta, to the AUDIENCE. The audience is the show. The audience is the vital component that makes it happen for all of us who perform. This is why Mudcat is a great thing. As for Paul, I choose not to remember the beer. I choose to remember the greatness and the passion, and the generosity of a great player who taught me how to play the Blues. God Bless ya Pauly. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 09 Mar 07 - 08:09 PM Lawdy, Lawdy, somebody HELP me, Great God Amighty, I be searchin' for a rescue...back up the thread with the Cohen thing. We've already talked about the David Blue/Cohen, Bruce Murdoch, Patrick Sky thing, but there was also Bobby Cohen(session guy in Mtl), and Andrew Cowan(Stephen Barry Band), Leonard Cohen(a whole other thing). Is everybody still awake? And yes, pdq., Carole Kaye(a Monster Bass player) got it right. Howard Roberts, Dennis Budimir, Tommy Tedesco, Toots Thielemans, etc. right during the 1966 "Route 66" era were doing most of the work on t.v.. etc. I had the opportunity to meet Howard Roberts at a Musician's Union Seminar hosted by Frank Quinn(my Jazz guitar teacher). By 1971, I had hit the wall with the fingerpicking thing, steel picks, Dobro thumbpick. I wanted to advance my blues technique, so I got into Jazz. I had to stop with fingerpicking, and take up the flatpick, like a junkie giving up the needle. Frank would run me through the Berklee Jazz course, one time with me sweating, (Frank could play the guitar either left or right handed. Frightening.) "What chord is THAT?" I didn't know. He had walked me through the harmonic jungle so far, that if would have asked me my name, I wouldn't have been able to tell him. So, I'm looking at the chord and I don't know what it is. He says, "C". I look again and he's right. The old C chord EVERYBODY in Folk uses! CEGC. I go, man, can I do this? You see, the world of Folk and musician's everywhere were all intertwined. Like ships passing in the night, everybody ran across everybody at one point or another. Well, almost. So this seminar things coming up with Howard Roberts. I go to see Fred Torak, one of the few geniuses I've met. Perfect Pitch. He was the one they would call when The Ice Capades were in town, and needed somebody who could cut the parts fast. I show up with John McLaughlin's "Birds of Fire" album, and play it for Fred, who before my eyes, starts to write out the music. WHILE IT IS PLAYING! Astonishing, Black notes on paper, FAST, like a typewriter! We go to the Seminar that Howard Roberts is giving. A humble guy. He says" You know, I won the 1958 DownBeat Poll for Best Jazz Guitarist and I knew ONE scale." It was that pentatonic thing everybody uses in Blues, Hendrix, everybody. So, Howards on stage and he has this folk guitar that got cracked, so he had it rebuilt with an F-top. Dark colored. He says, "you know, as session guys, you are going to have to be able to hear the individual notes within a chord." He turns his back to the audience and strums a chord. Torak goes, E minor 7 Flat 5! The whole room looks at Fred and Howard says, Right! But just to tell you, there will always be the Fred Toraks, David(Maverick Child)Raes, and the David Brombergs out there...Folkies. Ha Ha Ha Hee Hee. So I take a walk with Howard (I take lots of walks, following Mr. Lee's(back up the thread) advice, " be the fool, you can know." Which means, learn from EVERYBODY who will teach you.) Howard tells me the boys in L.A., the crowd that pdq mentioned were pushing the music as far as it could go during the era, and that he was working on his next album, called "Equinox Express Elevator" where they were using Orange Squeezers(a compressor), and envelope followers and every other trick the big studios had at the time to come up with an album the likes of which, nobody had ever heard before(shades of Joe Meek. Brits gotta know) MASSIVE sound, deep delays, rotary speakers, everything. Got to keep to the theme of the thread here. Sandy Bull, Oud, middle eastern influences, EVERYBODY had that. Must have listened to that til it wore out. Mike Bloomfield, among the deadliest, had to have touched just about everybody. Clapton=Clapton. You will be able to hear the genius if you get quiet with it. It's what he's playing, but it's also what he's not playing, like Miles. Boring? Not in my world. Ewan McColl, for sure. Kudos to all the Brits, Peter Green, Clapton, Alexis Koerner, Roger(Jim)McGuinn(who I opened for at The Golem.) Hands down, the best acoustic folk performance that I have ever seen. Nearly two hours of hit after hit. Did he write THAT? Yep.) Anyhound, if it wasn't for the Brits(so many) kicking in with their Love of the Blues, it just would not have been the same. Tex is back in at this point. Chinatown. I say to Howard. Bet you like Chinese food. "How did you know?" Easy, Musician! Only place open til 4am besides the Delis. Into the night. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 10 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM Come hear a guaranteed 100% authentic little known New York folksinger from the 1960s in person this very same evening! If you missed him at the Broadside hoots and at the Gerdes Folk City hootenanny nights, if you didn't get to hear him at the South Street Seaport or outside the gates of Fort Dix, if you didn't catch him at a coffee house in Queens or on Long Island, if you failed to notice him at the Four Winds and the other pass-the-basket houses in Greenwich Village, and if you never heard him on Izzy Young's or Bob Fass's shows on WBAI-FM, now it the chance you have been waiting 40 years for! Also come celebrate the release of I've Been Up On the Mountain, his newest CD! Steve Suffet Old Fashioned Folksinger Accompanied by MacDougal Street Rent Party at the Peoples' Voice Cafe Workmen's Circle Building 45 East 33rd Street New York City Tonight • Saturday • March 10, 2007 8:00 PM • Doors open 7:30 PM Also appearing... Holly GoAnarchy Anarcho-Feminist Folksinger-Songwriter Suggested admission: $12. Peoples' Voice Cafe and Workmen's Circle members: $9. TDF vouchers accepted. No one turned away for lack of money. For information, please call 212-787-3903. Be there! Please. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lisa null Date: 10 Mar 07 - 07:54 PM Bob Ryszkiewicz: Thanks so much for sharing the reminiscences about Tex. I do remember how he was not only a mountain of a man but how much he loved the martial arts-- philosophically as well as physically. In Colorado, in 1960, he was big and strong but not overwhelming in personality or size -- all that was left to come. What he was was a serious singer and thinker with a lot of good songs. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lisa null Date: 10 Mar 07 - 07:57 PM Thanks to "Guest" for reminding me that Stalnley Tripp was actually Stanley Triggs. I heard his folkways record in 1960 and really loved it. Anyone know what happened to him? he belongs on this list! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Alamosa Bill Date: 10 Mar 07 - 08:39 PM I would like to report the passing of one of the finest i2 string guitarists, Mark Spoelstra, on Feb 25th 2007. To read more about Mark, his website is www.markspoelstra.net Spent lots of time at the old Club 47 in Cambridge, Ma. Was there when Tim Hardin blew into town and Dayle Stanley let him do a couple of sets between her sets. Tim was great and is missed. Alice Stuart is still performing around Seattle & th Pacific Northwest. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 10 Mar 07 - 09:30 PM There must be some kinda HOOT goin' on at a new coffeehouse in heaven. Mark Spoelstra's passing was noted in another thread as well. Then Eric Von Schmidt, Tex Koenig, John Foley, Lindsay Cameron, Artie Gold(Classical Music expert). Most of those I just heard about. I wonder if it's pass the hat up there. I do know that John probably started it, and that Tex has already found the best Chinese Restaurant. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 11 Mar 07 - 01:21 AM Greetings: My gig last night in New York City went really well and there was a pretty decent turnout, especially since I was up against David Rovics at the Vox Pop , Alan Friend (another 1960s folkie) at the Park Slope Food Co-op, and a belated Purim party thrown by a woman who is very active in the local music scene. However, only one Mudcatter made her presence known. Thank you, Emma. I suspect there may have been one or two more. If there were any others in attendance, could you please give me a holler? Thanks. Next stop: NEFFA. Then it's off to the Jacob's Ladder festival and a mini-tour of Israel. It's hard to believe that 43 years after I first got up on a coffee house stage I'm still a little known folk singer. [grin] I'm certain, though, that isn't the record. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 11 Mar 07 - 09:36 AM I remember many a night in Chinatown with Tex. He would never let me order , or even look at the menu! With him and the taxi drivers we would eat and schmooze till the the sun came up. I loved the places he took me to.. He told me once, "Never record anything that you can't take on tour." Which I think is good advice. Mark Ross PS Hello Lisa Null, I haven't seen you in over 30 years. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Mar 07 - 08:36 PM I'm wondering if anyone ever ran across a Dave Greenberg. I remember meeting him in deepest darkest East Lansing, Michigan, back in the 1970's and persuading him to write out the words to "Walk Me Out in the Morning Dew Today" which I believe he got from Bonnie Dobson. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: lisa null Date: 12 Mar 07 - 12:16 AM Mark Ross! How wonderful to be remembered by you after all this time.... of course, I have followed your long and itneresting involvement in things folkish. It's so much fun to "come out" on Mudcat and discover that the world of people who love so many things I love is still out there connected... Hope our paths cross soon. Am planning to take up touring again after a hiatus of a quarter century! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Scrump Date: 12 Mar 07 - 08:32 AM I remember in about 1964, being in a folk club in London, when in walked this young guy with a guitar. He asked if he could do a song, and having got a nod from the organiser, he got up on the small stage there and started singing. A hush fell on the room as soon as he started - everyone there was mesmerised. The song had such powerful words, and he had a charisma that had everyone in the room transfixed. When he finished the song, there was a pause of about a second, and then the room erupted into applause, that seemed to go on for a long time, but was probably about five full minutes before it subsided. The guy thanked us and walked away. Nobody ever saw him again. We never did find out who the heck he was. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 12 Mar 07 - 07:00 PM I came across this thread a few days ago and have been tripping down memory lane ever since. I was a little-known folksinger from 1960, when I played my first gig at the Bohemian Embassy in Toronto, till 1966, when I returned from two years of living and gigging in Britain, only to find the folk boom had gone bust in Ontario. The Purple Onion had become the home of Luke and the Apostles, an electric blues band. The Village Corner and Gate of Cleve were long gone. The Fifth Peg was bankrupt. The Riverboat was pretty much hiring big names only (and I do mean Len Chandler) and there was no place left for a journeyman folksinger like me. One bar-room gig later, I was history. Maybe I'll be seized by an uncontrolled urge to share my Len Chandler stories and my David Wiffen stories and my Doug Bush stories, but for now, I'll content myself with adding a few more names to the list. From southern Ontario: The Chanticlairs The Fernwood Trio The Pioneers The Sinners The Perth County Conspiracy Sharon Trostin Cedric Smith Mary Jane and Winston Young The Travellers From London, England: Redd Sullivan The Thameside Four (Marion Gray, Pete Maynard, Martin Carthy, Long John Baldry) Paul MacNeil When I was little known back then, I went by the name Joanne Hindley-Smith. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,meself Date: 12 Mar 07 - 07:24 PM Cedric Smith, of course, went on to the role of the father on "Road to Avonlea" for a number of years. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Charley Noble Date: 13 Mar 07 - 07:16 PM Let's see, Owen McBride and Sarah Gray used to hang out with Friends of Fiddlers Green in Toronto back in the late 1960's. A whole group of them came storming into East Lansing for a concert at the folk club at Michigan State University, a tape of which I've been mining for years. What an evening! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 15 Mar 07 - 07:39 PM From the Bay Area: Mad Michael Hunt. Yes, Mike Hunt. His real name. Very funny guy. Played 12-String. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:46 PM Mike Hunt? The guy who wrote "Giovanni Batista Montini"? Yeah, he was pretty funny. How about Lisa Kindred? She was pretty good. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:00 PM from over in rome italini the cardinals never say nope to giovanni montini the pope didn't he also write my baby died this morning? and silicone? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,meself Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:05 PM Did anyone mention Ken Bloom, the multi-instrumentalist? Anyone know what he's been up to the last twenty-five years or so? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:28 PM "Giovanni", yes indeed, Mike Hunt write that one. And this classic: It stood 60 feet wide and 20 feet tall Sixteen catalogues hung on the wall The half-moon on the door was carved with pride And the holes in the seats were 3 feet wide in Big John (great big John) Played many nights with the lad at the old Lion's Share in Sausalito. Until it burned down. Then we didn't play there anymore. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: JZ Date: 17 Mar 07 - 02:20 AM Glad to see a few folks mention singer-songwriter-guitarist and pianist Raun MacKinnon!!! She was a teacher of mine, (and a mega-influence on my writing and playing) from the ol' Guitar Workshop days on Long Island. Jeff Warner, Jeff Davis, Charlie Chin, Marty Cutler, Paul Brady (of Planxty, and far from unknown!)the list goes on and on... Paul Kaplan's up in Amhurst, MA. Great singer-songwriter and folk musician. Also from Long Island, Bruce Morganheim, who wrote the song "Circle of Light" and many others. He played guitar, fiddle, banjo, viola... I was a very obscure 60's singer songwriter and folkie playing on LI and NYC in the late 60's-70's-80's and then some... So was/is Robin Greenstein, and Cecilia Kirtland. We were Raun MacKinnon's students and products of The Guitar Workshop. I still play some of Raun's songs. Only one person in this thread has mentioned Jim Dawson- I just saw him at a house concert in Brooklyn in January. He has a new CD out and it's wonderful.He's a powerhouse of a performer. This is question is a decade off-thread, but does ANYBODY know the whereabouts of singer-songwriter-guitarist Bill Priest? He was amazing. Met him at the Flushing Local Cofeehouse, he was a close friend of Lucinda Williams'. We played some gigs together in the 70's-early 80's on the NYC Village scene, pre-Fast Folk, at clubs like The Banana Stand, and we did a whole weekend openning for Susan Osborne at Folk City. He was from Texas originally, and left NY to go back there. Bill Priest was his stage name. The Song Project (Lucy Kaplansky, Martha P. Hogan, Tom Intondi, Jerry Devine)covered one of his songs, "Tupelo Rain". Will somebody please tell him Judith Zweiman's lookin' for him? Blessings to you all and thanks for a fascinating read!- JZ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 17 Mar 07 - 01:47 PM Anybody remember: Humphrey and the Dumptrucks was a terrific jug-bluegrass band out of Saskatoon in the late-'60s. They lasted through the mid-'70s or so; Diana Marcovitz was a quirky songwriter from Montreal who was based out of New York City for a while and then disappeared; Alexandre Zelkine, a guitar-playing baritone from Russia via France and Canada who sang folk songs from all over the world in the '60s and early-'70s. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Abby Sale Date: 17 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM For Bay Area readers only: Any recolection of a SF union song (etc) singer named Carl? He was about the leading folksinger in the late 50's & later, I think. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 17 Mar 07 - 02:43 PM I've been following this thread for some time. As I re-read it, a question comes to me. Over the many years, and the hundreds (thousands?) of performers we all have known, loved, and respected, why is it that there are so few that "really made it?" Of course the first questions is: what do we mean when we ask ... "really made it?" Was it factors of: talent; drive; luck; drugs; bad men and wimmen; or something else. I'll offer my own VERY personal experience here as an example of what "making it" means to ME! I'll be 70 next month. Within the next two weeks, I'll succeed in holding my very first quality recording in my hand. I will be singing a solo concert, which will present this CD to the world. As "Bride Judy" said to me last night when I was writing and re-writing song credits: "You've been working FOR this all your life!" And of course she is correct. As I write this now, I wonder where Don McCalister, Terry Wadsworth, David Spence, and many others ... could have gone if they hadn't left us so early! Good thread! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 17 Mar 07 - 02:47 PM Guest: I remember all 3 acts. Diana Marcovitz used to play The Yellow Door. Alexandre Zelkine as well. Humphrey and the Dumptrucks were more Western Canada, but I remember them as well. Disappeared. The only person that I know who might know is Mike Regenstreif(Folk Roots/Folk Branches)CKUT, Montreal. Diana was a wonderful soul. I've often wondered what became of her. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Coyote Breath Date: 17 Mar 07 - 03:35 PM I came late (as usual) to this thread. Anyone mention Paul Prestopino? played with Mike Bloomfield when the later managed the Fickle Pickle in Chicago in the middle 60's. He was with the Chad Mitchel Trio for a while. His Dad was an abstract painter of some note. Also Mike Slossen(sp?) (sometimes called Mike Castle), Jacquie Harrison, Billy Chippet (wonderful and haunting version of Barbara Allen, an on-again off-again brush arbor musician from the bootheel of Missouri). "Doc" Stanley who MC'd the open mic at The Poison Apple in Chicago. I met Mississippi John Hurt there on a Sunday afternoon in 1963 or '64. Doc got in bad trouble, something about a shooting. Lots of talent in Chicago and Milwaukee back then. Peter Stampfel, Rob hunter and another guy I can't remember played in Milwaukee under the name of McGrundy's Old Timey Wool Thumpers. Bill Ross and Sweet Billy Olsen both great five string banjo players. Bill Ross (Rossiter was his true surname) had been a Capuchin monk at one time. Married a gal from Mexico and they lived in Pueblo last I heard. For a while Rob Hunter was with Steve Weber and Peter Stampfel as Holy Modal Rounders in the village. Rob lived in alphabet city in a walk-up most of whose apartments were shooting galleries. Ahh... nostalgia! CB |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Coyote Breath Date: 17 Mar 07 - 03:58 PM Hi there Erik. As I once heard you: Blind Erik Flatpick. At the Drinking Gourd in SF. Glad you're still around. Remember Herb J.?(Blue Unicorn) He's up at the Vet's home in Yountville, doing OK as far as I know. CB |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 17 Mar 07 - 08:13 PM Greetings: JZ wrote: "Paul Kaplan's up in Amhurst, MA. Great singer-songwriter and folk musician." Absolutely true, and Paul comes back down to New York City quite frequently. For example, he will be performing at the Community Cabaret of the Community Church of New York, 40 East 35th Street, this coming Friday, March 23, 2007. Also appearing will be Rachel Stone, Carl Sievert, and the Elegant Ivory Duo. Doors open at 6:30 PM and the show starts at 7:00. JZ also mentioned Robin Greenstein, among others. Robin is still very much on the New York folk scene, after having done one stint as personal assistant to the late Hedy West, and another as a traveling promoter of Martin guitars. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 17 Mar 07 - 08:21 PM The "Drinking Gourd" in the "City" was a great place in the 60's. Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 17 Mar 07 - 09:40 PM DECKMAN: You already made it. If you can do what you enjoy, that's a Blessing. Did some checking for GUEST: Diana Marcovitz went to New York, then to Israel, got married along the way and became Danya Bokenboim, a writer. ERIC FRANDSEN: aka "Fastblind" Eric Frandsen, I remember Big John, the "Fastblind" comes from Tex. God Bless him. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 17 Mar 07 - 10:35 PM Yeah, I'd forgotten about "Fastblind," but the "Blind Erik Flatpick" tag was hung on me by Ruthann Friedman, probably because I was and am a fingerpicker. Herb Jaeger? Glad he's still with us. How 'bout Mike Heintz, Tom Meisenheimer, Jon Toly (his sister Signe was the first girlsinger with the Airplane, replaced by Grace Slick), all of whom used to play together under various noms du stage, many times at the Zodiac on Fillmore St. The Drinking Gourd, eh? Right next to Stu Goldberg's Marina Music. ("When you need a guitar see Smilin' Stu--he gives credit where credit is due." My first jingle.) Used to teach guitar there with Sam Andrew, Eddie Ellison, and for a very brief time Elmer Snowden(!). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Peter Date: 18 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM "Diana Marcovitz went to New York, then to Israel, got married along the way and became Danya Bokenboim, a writer." Diana went home to Montreal for quite a few years in between her time in New York and moving to Israel. Her name is now Danya *Boksenboim*, not Bokenboim. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 18 Mar 07 - 07:56 PM Thanks Peter... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 19 Mar 07 - 02:51 PM There was Tom & Jerry, a couple of high school kids from Queens who were pretty good in the early sixties. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 07 - 02:55 PM Did they play some basket houses in the Village? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:15 PM I think Tom & Jerry went on to become Simon & Garfunkel. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 07 - 03:20 PM LOL Yeah, thanks Mark. So who were the two guys who did a duet, both sang and played guitar? Y'ad see 'em often in the ZigZag. One of the fellows ended up getting a letter from his Uncle and he went to SE Asia. Don't know about the other guy. They were really good. Great harmonies and clean flat picking. Ring any bells with you? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 19 Mar 07 - 05:49 PM So the Tom and Jerry thing was a joke - right? I imagine everyone taking part in this thread knows that tidbit from the earlier history of Simon and Garfunkle. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 19 Mar 07 - 05:56 PM Not me. I thought it was the two guys I'm asking Mark about, not Simon and Garfunkel. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 19 Mar 07 - 06:02 PM Sorry, Peace, I thought you were just carrying on the joke. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure without those smiley faces. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:56 AM How about Judy Mayhan? The Sorry Muthas? Keith Sykes? George Gerdes? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 20 Mar 07 - 05:17 PM George Gerdes has lived in LA for many years, acting and still writing great songs. When he hits town we get together and drink. For a change. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,celticblues5 Date: 20 Mar 07 - 09:46 PM Just discovered this thread & started reading through it with a notepad in my hand. :-) Sure wish more folks would add a little blurb about the type of music each person makes/made, rather than just listing a dozen or so names! With so many names, there's no way one could try to hunt down albums from every one. It would be helpful to be able to start with those who work in a genre/style I'm more certain that I would enjoy. I don't know if he was playing as early as the 60s, but in the 70s in Kansas City we loved going to see Danny Cox - blues/folkblues. We always thought he should have had more recognition. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:12 PM .....and let's not forget Julius Lester..... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:09 AM How about Danny Farmer, Sean Gagnier, Ronney Abramson, Rings & Things? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:25 AM Thanks, Balladeer! You brought back some more memories with your list. I wonder if we could ever remember them all. There were some great performers in those days, including yourself, and a damned shame that some of them never got recorded back then. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:28 AM Chris Rawlings, Montreal |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,meself Date: 21 Mar 07 - 10:41 AM Not to mention Andy Vine. He picked me up hitch-hiking once - I'm trying to remember if I ever actually heard him perform, and why I associate him with Chris Rawlings ... |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 21 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM Chris Rawlings, yeah: It's only six miles to the Pearl River Turnaround, never very far in the sun or the rain, if you don't turn back at the Pearl River Turnaround, never get back again. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 21 Mar 07 - 02:03 PM Chris Rawlings: "Here Comes Juan Rodriguez": "...Some say he came from Mexico, where he killed a shoeshine man/ Strangled him with his shoeshine rag, said, 'We all do what we can.'" Juan Rodriguez was the music critic for the local fishwrapper in the late '60s. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 21 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM Monte Dunn. And thanks for mentioning Raun MacKinnon. Took me back to a night in Toronto when we were both about eighteen and we sat on the floor of her hotel room swapping songs till dawn. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Old Roger Date: 21 Mar 07 - 05:13 PM Biff Rose http://www.biffrose.com/ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Peter Kasin Date: 21 Mar 07 - 11:56 PM Thank you, Janet in New Jersey for mentioning Laura Weber! She was my music teacher in high school. A wonderful person and wonderful teacher. She took our class into the local NET (former name of PBS) studio, KQED, San Francisco, and onto the set a few times when her folk guitar show was being taped. We got to sit and listen to her and Pete Seeger, Mike Seeger, classical player Christopher Parkening, and Elizabeth Cotton, in separate shows. It was a music education I'll never forget. I don't think she did gigs outside of her teaching, but I agree that she should be included in this thread, if for no other reason than to honor her as a great teacher, R.I.P. Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: ridovem Date: 28 Mar 07 - 04:26 AM Well, well... what a crowd! I was looking for a viola player that let me sing harmony at the U Miami student union- Ron Kickasola- and his math-grad buddy, Rob Rucker & I played at Myron & Joanie's joint in Coral Gables, in 1962, maybe? Ron put together beautiful a cappella arrangements... & I can still hear some of them. There were lots of players & singers around there, then- some that have been mentioned (Vince Martin, Fred Neil, Beverly St. Marie, Pat Lynch aka Sky, Tom Rush, The Crosby brothers- David & Chip, the Knob Lick guys- Peter Childs & Erick..? and a guy from Vancouver, Wa)- plus some that I didn't see in the various lists- like Vic Smith (whom I ran into giving lessons in Pasadena, maybe, years later). Bob Gibson was around, then- but I didn't see mention of his old partner, Camp. Bob had a grim one-liner to someone who asked him "what's Bob Camp doin'?" "Time," Mr. Gibson intoned. There was a guy named Chuck that played Russian (& pseudo-Russian) tunes, who spent time in Arizona, as well as Miami. There was also a young guitar wizard who was all of 12 or 13, Johnny Mc..? who went off to play (with parents along, I believe) in Cambridge, someplace, in 1963. When I got home to the NW in '63 there were lots of players that got my attention- Lynn Hughes, in Seattle (& later Bay area & Nevada), Jerry Murry (who expatriated himself to Victoria, maybe),Rory Condon (could be near San Jose, now), David Coffin (in Portland- & maybe the best unrecorded old folkie I know- introduced me to Skip James' & John Hurt's music in '65), the late "barefoot" John Hendricks, the late Nick Ogilvie- who traveled with Mel Lyman & their wives to the western parts of the Carolinas in the very early '60s to get a taste of "real music country"... & lived to tell about it-- Nick was incredible, indomitable, and often a big load of Trouble... & a beautiful cat. Eejim Manning played some folk & cabaret stuff in Seattle, around '65, then surfaced in NYC, rumor had it. Earl Benson kind of ruled Portland's folk scene for a few years... played with Molly Malarkey, and did some other ensemble work, but alone, with autoharp, was a joy to hear- anytime. Johnny Ward, who's still playing around the NW, moved out of folk & into blues, jugband, old-time jass, & has just kept adding instruments & repertoire. The PH Phactor jugband, which had about 3 different incarnations, included some of these aforementioned. There were some fairly accomplished folkies around Reed College in the late 50s-early 60s, whose names will pop up in my sleep, probably... guys who played the "No Exit" on Water Street (& other dives). I didn't see any mention of Phil & Vivian Williams here, who were instrumental, as collectors & archivists, of transplanted country music in the mill towns around Seattle from the early sixties & on. They were an important part of creating a Seattle Folklore society- and have played for over 45 years (as the Turkey Pluckers, with Barney Munger, who was from Ohio) & as "The Tall Timber Boys", after that. Phil Poth, Andy Aldrich & Don McCallister played some pretty good music together, way back when... Gene Gilleskie was part of the Seattle folkscene mid-60s, and Paul Gillingham was another. Billy Roberts, a very smooth balladeer, was pretty influential (I know I learned some guitar stuff from watching him play). Larry Vanover (aka "Mr. Jug") played then- and fixed a few broken instruments on the side- and plays on, today, albeit infrequently. There's a clip of him playing jug on U-tube... a tune called "Whitewash Station", recorded in 2001... Ok- 'nuf outa me.. Oh- except that there was this Brit around for awhile, back then- Peter Elbling- who was a gas. Had a French-canadian partner sometime, with whom he'd share playing one guitar... real music-hall stuff- another actor who could also sing... ^..^ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: The Sandman Date: 29 Mar 07 - 07:58 AM walter greaves,the singing blacksmith,Ibelieve he used to cycle to all his gigs |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 29 Mar 07 - 05:41 PM Greetings: If you're coming to NEFFA this year, please stop by my Folk City Interlude session on Friday at 7:00 PM in Mansfield High School 103. I'll be performing the songs I learned from many of the little known folk singers mentioned above when I hung out on the fringes of the New York folk scene in the 1960s. You all know what Folk City was, and the Interlude, as I explained in one of the earlier messages, was an important coffee house near the railroad station in Kew Gardens, Queens. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,KenBrock Date: 01 Apr 07 - 04:15 PM Last week I got an lp for a little known 1960's folk duo I'd never heard of before - Jean and Doc (on Verve/Folkways). :) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: ridovem Date: 01 Apr 07 - 11:47 PM A correction to an earlier entry: the Brentano that played banjo with Mike Russo (in Portland, Or) was Ron Brentano- not Jim. Another mighty good all-around player on the Wet Coast in those days was Peter Langston (who I believe was a transplant from the East coast). He's involved with the various music camps at Ft. Worden centrum near Pt. Townsend, wa every Summer... which is also a great place to find some of the old coots (& cootesses) who were strummin' & warbling in the bygone days. My reference to Jack Harshaw of Miami, who was a regular performer at the coffee house in Coral Gables went up in the smoke of toasted troll, apparently... so I'm putting him back. He was a fine interpreter of traditional Brit material, and willing to share music, guitar "secrets", etc with youngsters such as meself- a generous soul... ^..^ |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Dave'sWife Date: 02 Apr 07 - 12:07 AM Guest Celticblues 5 said: "Sure wish more folks would add a little blurb about the type of music each person makes/made, rather than just listing a dozen or so names! " I believe I may have mentioned Jesse Colin Young. You would klnow his voice immediately if you remember that song by the Youngbloods (1967 I think) called "Get Together" - it has the chorus that reads: C'mon people now, Smile on your brother Ev'rybody get together Try and love one another right now He had a solo career after their breakup , well, still has one! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Wordsmith Date: 02 Apr 07 - 01:47 AM It's a shame I can't bookmark the spot on this thread where I had to leave off; reading a PC screen with a white background gets my eyes...of course, it's allergy season, too. That said, this is a great thread. Although I don't know many names on it, it certainly shows the breadth and strength of folk music. Thanks for the history. A number of comments people have made brought back things I'd forgotten. While I was blessed to be in Chicago from 1968-72, I got to see many "name" bands or groups like Peter, Paul and Mary, Joni Mitchell, Judy Collins, Laura Nyro, it seems I'd forgotten Steve Goodman, the coffeehouses like No Exit that someone mentioned, and the fact that I played in two college coffehouses back then, reluctantly. I suffer from performance anxiety. Imagine my dismay at having to fill in for one of my friends who played the autoharp. I had just learned acoustical guitar a year earlier and once got to play a twelve-string during a protest picket-line..."Blow Your Horn For Peace" was one of our logos, and "They Shoot Students, Don't They?" (mine, btw)(re: Kent State and the U. of Mexico students) The song I had to quickly learn? Appropriately enough, "Helpless." Not one of my favorites, especially after our performance. I should mention, I took piano lessons for eight years, too, and I can play by ear better than I can read music, but it's been a long time since I've played anything. Let's not get into the 12 years of choir or the women's barbershop chorus I was in, either. A truly unknown folk singer was introduced in 1971 at another coffehouse we used to frequent, since our stomping grounds was the Northside. The place was called Quiet Knight, and the guy who was sooo very handsome and sooo very good: John Prine. Lucky us! Peace and goodwill. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: maryfens Date: 08 Apr 07 - 06:00 PM Happy Easter/Hannukah all you folkies. I finally joined Mudcat so send a message to me if you like. I was part of the Boston/Cambridge scene in the late 1960s-early '70s and also in San Francisco in early '70s with some of the same folks. (Paul MacNeil, Pam & Ray Clayton.) I hadn't though about that scene for a long time then suddenly heard from Paul M., Kenny Girard and Lesley Moore by e-mail. Then Chris Smither showed up to play at a local club last fall. Hadn't seen him in over 30 years, and he still sounds great. I am kind of enjoying the walk down memory lane. Peace. Mary |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 08 Apr 07 - 06:46 PM "It's a shame I can't bookmark the spot on this thread where I had to leave off; reading a PC screen with a white background gets my eyes..."With Firefox you can bookmark a link with one click, and it's easy to set a preference to overide a page's background color with one of your choosing. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: pitheris Date: 09 Apr 07 - 08:49 AM Spider John Koerner John is a walking encyclopedia of folk songs. I was fortunate to hear him play in the 1970s at Jock O'Sullivans bar in New Haven CT. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 11 Apr 07 - 05:04 PM During 1961 and '62, I did a little involuntary time with Uncle Sugar at Ft. Lewis, near Tacoma, WN. The World's Fair was happening in Seattle, and many singers, including a mediocre yours truly, converged on the area. Of the home-grown talent, I fondly remember Nancy Quence, from Seattle. Also, clubs such as 92 Yesler, in Seattle and The End, in South Tacoma (run by a French expatriate by the name of Pierre Odier). |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 11 Apr 07 - 05:11 PM Nancy is still very much alive and still singing VERY WELL in the Seattle area! Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 11 Apr 07 - 05:18 PM Two names I did not see in the sea of messages, above, are Art Podell and Paul Potash. Back in the late '50's, they performed in clubs in Greenwich Village and put out at least one album under the "Art & Paul" name. I believe they were backed by Paul Prestopino on several numbers. Both later performed with Randy Sparks in an enormous group to which most folkies paid little heed, but which made scads of money. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 11 Apr 07 - 05:56 PM To: Guest TJ in San Diego. Why don't you join and send me a PM. We probably ended up on the same stages together? Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 12 Apr 07 - 01:01 PM Deckman: I am considering the offer. Meanwhile, I recall my roots in the Fresno, California area. In the late '50's Dave Barber opened a coffee house cum performance opportunity club called "The Renaissance" in Fresno. One of the mainstays was a fellow named Jon Adams, who is still active as a master storyteller and folk musician, based in the area. Many who were later part of the Sweets Mill folk camp scene in the Sierras, including the late Mark Spoelstra, were active here. One of my favorite memories is of Jesse "Lone Cat" Fuller, composer of "San Francisco Bay Blues," who appeared as an amazing one-man band. A former trio mate of mine, Lee Gilliand, is in happy retirement in Portland, heading a group called "Moondanse Trio," I'm told. Pete Everwine and Gene Bluestein, both english profs at Fresno State, were local performers, scholars and collectors as well. Sadly, this sort of club, where young people can get on a small stage and learn their craft without having missiles hurled at them are too few these days. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 12 Apr 07 - 01:42 PM I enjoyed watching and listening to "Lone Cat" Fuller, singing on stage with the late Walt Robertson, at the "Blind Lemon, in Berkeley. I think that was also 1959 ... or was it 1859? CHEERS, Bob Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 12 Apr 07 - 05:24 PM Correction: The guitarist who backed Art & Paul was the late Dick Rosmini, not Paul Prestopino. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,GUEST, Len B, Downey, CA Date: 13 Apr 07 - 01:06 AM I am astonished by how big the list of names has become, and also by how many names are still missing. A few that came immediately to mind were Tom Kines, Elizabeth Knight, Harry Jackson (artist and singer), Milt Okun and the Kossoy Sisters (identical twins Irene and Ellen). I could add dozens more. Perhaps later. The Chicago area banjo player Moe Hirsch was mentioned, but not the other area people that appeared on a recording with him (Chicago Mob Scene, Riverside): Larry Ehrlich, Dean Gitter, Bob March, Pete Stein, Pete Stone, and Blind Bill Todd. Also on that album was "Samuel Hall", who was actually Bob Gibson. The following quote appeared regarding Bess Hawes: "Bess Hawes should be better known than she is (Alan Lomax's sister who in my view is as significant in some ways as Alan). Educator, banjo-picker and singer. With the Almanacs." I couldn't agree more. Alan deserves his own listing, since he made recordings, both on his own and with others. Butch Hawes, Bess' husband, was also with the Almanac Singers. John Lomax, Bess and Alan's father was one of the giants of American folklore. The field recordings he (along with John) did for the Smithsonian are priceless. They discovered many important singers, most notably "Leadbelly", of course. I was very fortunate to be able to take guitar lessons from Bess Hawes in the 60's, on a number of occasions. Almost as wonderful as the lessons were the stories she would tell about the songs and the performers, since she knew just about everybody. Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, and innumerable others generally stayed at her house when they were in LA. Unfortunately, I didn't have the talent that some of her other students had, e.g., Odetta. Another unmentioned performer (also one of her students, I believe) that Bess made some recordings with was Mickey Miller. Finally, another ommission that surprised me was John Greenway. John was a professor at UCLA in the 50's and 60's. He wrote the book "American Folksongs of Protest" and made a numeber of recordings. In addition to protest, labor and union songs, he was an authority on Australian folk music as well. John went to Australia on a sabbatical to collect additional material for his studies. In those days (things seem quite different now) most people, unlike American bluebloods, would not admit to being descended from Australia's mostly convict first familes, or to know much about Australian history of folklore. When he went into the field and explained what he was looking for, he was told that he ought to contact John Greenway in the States. "He's the expert on that subject." |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Apr 07 - 11:06 AM Somewhere around 1960, I went with a group of friends to the Ash Grove, in L.A. On the bill that night were Mike Seeger and his group and Sam Hinton, among others. I moved here in 1967 only to find that Sam was a local institution, based out of U. of Calif. San Diego. He just had a big going away party and moved into assisted living in northern California. A great performer and a wonderful storyteller and mentor who will be greatly missed. Free association is crazy. I just recalled meeting Bob Canning in Durango, CO, last year. He is now a western artist, a new career after recovering from a bad accident with a horse. He grew up in Orillia, Ontario (Lightfoot's home town)and was a folksinger there before becoming an award-winning movie director and producer. Keep 'em coming! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Apr 07 - 02:08 PM Others on the Ash Grove stage that night were Ramblin' Jack Elliot and a very young Jackie DeShannon (who was being billed as a folk singer)in her debut. Does anyone remember Pete Jacobs or Hadley Batchelder III, both of whom were doing the coffee house circuit on the west coast in the early '60's? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,GUEST, Len B, Downey, CA Date: 13 Apr 07 - 06:12 PM To GUEST.TJ: Your comment regarding Sam Hinton brought back some memories. He used to come up to LA occasionally to give some noon concerts at a major aerospace company where I was employed. These were arranged by his sister, who worked for the same company. Sam told me that he had at one time worked for a carnival, and had developed a number of unusual skills. Of the musical ones, he demonstrated that he could whistle a tune and hum the accompaniment simultaneously. He said that he could also whistle an ascending scale and hum a descending one simultaneously also, but he rarely attempted it any longer, since hardly anyone appreciated how difficult that was. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Apr 07 - 06:33 PM AND ... I was always amazed to see him put the ENTIRE harmonica in his mouth, close his mouth, and play the harmonica and the guitar at the same time. Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Apr 07 - 07:04 PM Deckman: If that doesn't DEFINE a harmonica virtuoso, I've never seen or heard one. Amazing stuff. I once had a young employee who had worked in a couple of the early coffee houses in the beach area here. She was an old acquaintance of Tom Waits, who hung out on the streets here in the 60's and played local clubs. Her dad was a master cabinet maker from West Virginia and quite a guitarist. I was invited to their home for a little jam session once, around 1972, and found Sam Hinton in the living room with a few other friends of the family. That was a great evening of singing and sharing and storytelling - one of the best ever. That was the only time I ever saw him "swallow the harpoon," as he laughingly put it. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 13 Apr 07 - 07:26 PM I first witnessed this in 1958 at a hoot in Seattle. Then again, I saw him do this when he gave a children's concert at Santa Cruz University in 1962. UnREAL! Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: maryfens Date: 13 Apr 07 - 10:27 PM Does anyone remember Joanie Preston from the San Francisco North Beach club scene in the early 1970's? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Zaidman Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:31 AM Hey Steve! Good memory .. the Interlude was one of the great informal music scenes of the 60s ... which Steve are you? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:48 AM Anyone remember Kit Snow? I met him in Toronto when he played The Village Corner Club in the sixties. I believe he was from Carmel California. He gave me a whole new way to look at folk music. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 15 Apr 07 - 08:09 PM Hey Duke: You must remember lots of relatively "unknown" performers from the Toronto scene. Has anyone mentioned Jim McCarthy? Balladeer |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,PK Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:03 AM Does anyone remember a David McKinley that sang in the coffee houses in Boston in the mid 60's? Had a wonderful voice! |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:15 PM By the bye; Travis Edmonson is still kicking down in Arizona. He has shown up at a couple of events; folk camps, etc., over the past few years. He is wheelchair bound. His old partner, Bud Dashiell, ran a guitar shop/studio in LA back in the 70's, I believe. He has been gone for many years. I still run into Nick Reynolds, of the Kingston Trio, now and again in Coronado, CA. He is retired, having trouble with his legs and hips, but still enjoys cooking. He's also a dangerous driver - ask the locals. The last original performing member of the Trio, Bob Shane, is retired - with some health issues - in Arizona. Various Trio members used to get together in the Coronado backyard of Nick's sister and brother-in-law for jams. John Stewart, Nick's nephew, Joey Harris, and others would drop in. This was an old home once occupied by Frank Baum when he wrote the Wizard of Oz. The last of those was probably in the early 90's or so. None of these guys were "unknowns," obviously, but there's an update, for what it's worth. I once told Nick how much "trouble" he and his mates caused for all of us young wannabe types, getting us started in the Folk way. His response, "Yeah; but wasn't it all a gas!" |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:13 PM Yes, Balladeer, I remember Jim McCarthy. He was and is and always will be my favourite folk singer. Too bad he never recorded. Cal Winzey was another and Al Cromwell. Oh....there were so many good performers back then. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:49 PM Not to monopolize the forum, but images keep erupting from the memory bank. Returning from Army service in 1963, and wishing to augment my knowledge of folk music, I took two "folk music as literature" classes at Fresno State from two very engaging and entertaining profs, both of whom had done extensive research in Appalachia and elsewhere. I had no idea just who they were or that they were considered particularly noteworthy. Turns out, Gene Bluestein and Pete Everwine (better known as a poet) were classics. Especially Gene, who collected, taught and performed for many years. His son, Evo, is active now. I'd be curious to know whether others knew, heard or enjoyed them as much as I did. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Amos Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:00 PM Hey, TJ, welcome to the Cat. SIgn up and make yourself permanent! :D Good to see another San Diegan on board to defend the worship of perfect weather against masses of marauding snow-eating cats. A |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 19 Apr 07 - 11:18 AM The Adams Avenue Roots & Folk Festival, almost a goner after the organizer, Lou Curtiss, lost his business a few months ago, is up and running in San Diego's Normal Heights/Kensington area this weekend - the 34th year. It is all free! Some of those who will be appearing are Mike Seeger, Sparky & Rhonda Rucker, Guy & Candie Carawan, Ross Altman and Carolyn Hester, along with a large group of other, lesser known performers. There are many opportunities for interaction with the singers and multiple venues open all weekend. If you are in southern California, or can get there reasonably, come on down. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 19 Apr 07 - 10:48 PM Duke: Didn't the Dirty Shames record when they were in New York? And wasn't Jim still with them then? Balladeer |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,susan ruskin ex umanov Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:45 PM and surely you all remember izzy young's famous poem david blue, hows by you still the same old new york jew? aloha erik |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mark Ross Date: 24 Apr 07 - 09:47 AM Susan, how are you? It's been a long time. Where are you? Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 24 Apr 07 - 10:43 AM Balladeer: I never heard of The Shames recording, but it would be fantastic if they did. I think Chic Roberts is still around. I have a friend who knows him quite well and I'll see if I can get any info. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 24 Apr 07 - 05:50 PM Susan Ruskin: Aloha yourself, darling girl! Of course we remember Izzy's poem. Can I send you anything from the old neighborhood? How 'bout 2 half sour pickles? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 24 Apr 07 - 07:24 PM Duke: Here's a quote from Chick's CD Baby site. (Btw, I've been in touch with him recently. "In the early 60s, with his newly minted stage name in hand, Chick Roberts performed around Canada & the USA as a solo folk artist, and with Amos Garrett, Jim McCarthy and Carol Robinson as The Dirty Shames. Primarily a Jug/String Band, they performed an eclectic variety of songs from the country, blues, jazz and pop repertoires. Come 1965, Chick and The Dirty Shames moved to New York to cut several records on the Phillips label (sadly, never released in Canada). Following Jim McCarthy's departure, the Shames enlarged the band by adding Bass, Piano and drums and became the regular band at Andy Warhol's club "The Dom" and openers for The Velvet Underground at the "The Gymnasium."" |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bill D Date: 24 Apr 07 - 08:17 PM Mention of putting a harmonica IN the mouth and playing it while playing the guitar reminded me of "Harmonica Frank" Floyd. I saw him in the mid 70s at the Smithsonian Folk Festival....he stole the show! And his red, white & blue shirt & pants were a special treat. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 24 Apr 07 - 09:11 PM Harmonica Frank Floyd and I shared a gig/concert at the University Of Chicago in the mid 1970s. Bill, thanks for reminding me of him! Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,susan ruskin Date: 30 Apr 07 - 10:48 PM erik - if you see my 20 year old body maybe you could send it to me. i think i left it on carmine st. hi mark - i've been in hawaii for the past 20 years, mas o menos. i have a bamboo nursery. same deal as the guitar store except we make all our own product. lots of the same clients. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,cat Date: 01 May 07 - 01:52 PM anyone know my uncle iberus hacker (from chicago and chattanooga)? |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 01 May 07 - 03:16 PM Balladeer: That's great news to hear. If they recorded, the records might be available somewhere. I hope Chick is doing well. I haven't seen him in many years. Say hello for me. |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 01 May 07 - 06:06 PM Kathy and Carol are back performing. They'll be at the Ark in Ann Arbor, Mich., on June 20. The Ark newsletter says they haven't made an album since 1965. (I'm posting this as a separate item, too.) |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 01 May 07 - 06:55 PM Yes, GUEST cat, I'm glad you reminded us of him. There's a photo in Art Thieme's gallery -- click on "Search" and then enter "Iberus" into the text box. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,cat Date: 01 May 07 - 08:57 PM BK Lick, Thank you so much for responding ... I am trying to find out about my Uncle Iberus but unable to get to the link you gave(username & password?).... any info on him I would be very grateful to have... my grandparents (his parents have passed) and I know he was a preacher and an activist and i'm trying to find out all i can especially about his musicianship. thank you very much,cat |
Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: GUEST,cat Date: 01 May 07 - 09:03 PM i got the picture. Wow, just as i remember him (but i was very young)thanks! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 02 May 07 - 09:52 AM I remember doing a couple of shows with Iberus in Chicago for the IWW. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 03 May 07 - 04:36 PM Has anyone mentioned Malvina Reynolds, she of "Little Boxes" fame? I am reminded of that song every time I pass by Daly City, CA. The "boxes" are still there! I also recall a coffee house in Orange County, near Newport Beach, called "Prison of Socrates." Any takers? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: webby Date: 04 May 07 - 10:11 AM There was a really good singer used to come here (u.k.)From the states named Colin Scott. A really nice guy, came over every year to perform in the Midlands. Is he still around? The last I heard of him was 1974-75 Be nice to know if he is still around webby |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,david gedalecia Date: 11 May 07 - 09:48 PM Jonathan Aaron Mark Faurer Nick Gravenites John Ketterson Perry Lederman Mike Michaels Dick Rosmini -- some better known than others, but all great guitarists, great musicians! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 11 May 07 - 11:51 PM B.K.Lick cat and I have been in touch by email and I told her what I know of Iberus Hacker--her uncle. In a nutshell, I said that he was a preacher, an organizer, an advocate for the downtrodden, powerless and homeless, fought for gay rights, civil rights, workers rights and many other causes. He enjoyed singing, but was more enthusiastic than good. In the 1970s, in Chicago, he was a big thorn in the side of the first Mayor Daley---Richard J. Daley. Whenever he asked me, I lent my voice to his many causes. Especially I recall one particular march and rally he spearheaded to fight hunger in town. It culminated in a rally at Bughouse Square --- itself historically important as a focal point for free speech and soap box oratory by the likes of Dr. Ben Reitman, Vachal Lindsey, Carl Sandburg, Mother Jones, Boxcar Bertha and many I.W.W. orators during the early years of the 20th century. I was honored to be singing there in that park too. But there was a side to Iberus that was questionable. He worked with the Daley machine when it was in his interest, and that means when it meant funding his projects. Some of the funds disappeared, and fingers were pointed at Iberus Hacker----but I always felt the Daley people had it in for him and were trying to denigrate him any way they could back then. The photo I took of him was in a small coffeehouse he opened up on Lincoln Ave. in Chicago. I was walking home one day, passed his place and stopped for coffee and some good conversation. So I took a shot of him. It wasn't a good one, but since it was the only photo I had of Iberus, it got included in my on-line collection. I also mentioned to "cat" that because of some vibes I got from her uncle, I didn't want to get too close to him. Looking back, I suspect that was possibly my loss. Art |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 12 May 07 - 12:21 AM I just went back and looked at the photo of Iberus. I noticed a few other things: The young fellow sitting to Iberus' laft, I believe, is Iberus' son. But I never knew who his mother might've been. I don't remember his son's name. At that time Iberus was sort of married to a gal half his age (I thought) named Ruth. Iberus had some different/unique emotional attachments. Also, there is a mirror leaning against the back wall---about four feet high and maybe 2 wide. Reflected in that mirror and quite blurry is me--taking the photo! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 12 May 07 - 09:15 AM I haven't trawled through all 400+ postings to this thread so apologies if these were mentioned earlier... I was watching reruns of old Two Ronnies on BBC4 - there was a trio (2 guitarists, guy in the middle with restrained afro like Ray Dorset used to sport)singing polite folkie stuff called New World- can't remember them coming into my consciousness at the time. Any info? RtS |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 12 May 07 - 09:28 AM I found this on AllMusic guide: they were active in 1970s tho': Broad of collar and bright of shirt, New Zealand's New World exemplified the kind of bright-eyed, lightly sentimental folk-pop that threatened to devour the UK charts of the early 1970s. Pre-glam, pre-prog, and almost prepubescently harmless, the trio emerged out of British television's Opportunity Knocks talent show and briefly threatened to become their homeland's biggest ever export. Especially after the all-conquering combination of label-head Mickie Most, producer Mike Hurst, and songwriters Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman ganged up on a generation's ears and soft-soaped them into submission.Between 1971-72, the New World trio scored four UK hits of note, each of which distinguishes this (otherwise over-ambitious) collection. "Rose Garden" was a moderately successful pop rival to Lynn Anderson's contemporary country number; "Sister Jane" is a compulsory singalong; and "Kara Kara" is an irresistible slice of rhyming nonsense that should have been their biggest record ever. Instead, that honor went to "Tom Tom Turnaround," the smash hit version of a song that the early Sweet also recorded, and a recording that producer Mike Hurst later admitted he hated. "It was everything I disliked about pure pop, right down to the execrable talking bit." In fact, the only thing that salvaged it in his opinion was, it wasn't as bad as "Kara Kara."The remainder of this collection trawls a career that, somewhat surprisingly, remained musically active until deep into 1973 — and long after the record-buying public had forgotten the group. For the chance to relive those early hits, however, The Best Of New World is exactly what it says and, so long as you don't want to hear anything else that the band ever wrought, it's everything you could possibly need. RtS |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: webby Date: 12 May 07 - 11:26 AM further to my enquiry, a lot of people mention Colin Scott! where is he, us Coventry Kids would love to know if he ia still alive and kicking, Scotty if you are out there, remember the Sportsmans Arms and the Gosford park Hotel, the Mercers Arms And the Turk Head etc. etc We would love to know if you are still out there, and if you are PLEASE get in touch. We would really like to hear from you. Otherwise Does anyone know of Scotty s whereabouts I would really like to here from this blast from the past |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Phil Cooper Date: 12 May 07 - 12:01 PM Hi, Guest cat, Art just emailed me and had me look at this thread. My singing partner, Margaret Nelson, knew Iberus from working at The Great American Coffeehouse. That may be where Art took the picture. Iberus officiated at her wedding to Rick Friedman. Her recollection of Iberus is similar to Art's, that we was a mixed bag. Good community organizer, larger than life, and could be hard on the people close to him. Margaret's not on email regularly. Art said he has contacted you via email. If you want to forward a request to Margaret through Art, to me, I'll get it to her. --Phil Cooper |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Arieh Lebowitz Date: 18 May 07 - 10:28 AM Robert Pierpont >> Arieh Lebowitz |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 18 May 07 - 11:30 AM anyone heard of Mike Fairbanks and konw what became of him?......or Janet Klimoski? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Moleskin Joe Date: 18 May 07 - 11:36 AM Does anyone know anything about Murray Young, a singer originally from the West Indies who was around in the early Sixties ? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Martinez Date: 20 May 07 - 07:57 PM I remember the Chanticlairs from about 1964-65 in Niagara Falls, Ontario. I think they were Bev, Klaus and Joe. I wonder whatever happened to them. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 21 May 07 - 12:56 PM Don't know if these count because it was in the Fifties, not the Sixties. Bob Gibson, Jo Mapes and I were a trio at the Gate of Horn. Bob Camp came along later. Sandy Paton, Valucha Buffington and I attempted to be a trio in Chicago around that time. It was an odd assortment and I think Sandy might agree. Osborne Smith around that time played and sang with a drum in Chicago. I accompanied him. Early on, in LA I worked with Odetta playing the harmonica in back of her. Guy Carawan and I did concerts in the LA area in the early Fifties...some with Jo Mapes and Rolf Cahn. Jo Mapes, Frank Robinson and Rolf Cahn did a memorable concert in the early Fifties in San Francisco. Often wondered whatever happened to Frank Robinson (an entertaining five-string banjo player). Larry Sparks and Odetta at the Tin Angel in San Francisco. Odetta was not a student of Bess Hawes. I showed 'Detta a strum or two in the early days. Anyway, this is way before the Sixties Scare. So I don't know if any of this counts. Oh yes, Guy Carawan, Ethel Raim and Erik Darling were briefly a trio in concert in New York. The Villagers (?) Rick Von Schmidt and Rolf Cahn worked together. Jack Elliott, Guy Carawan and I were the "Dusty Road Boys" traveling through the Fifties South collecting folk songs and singers. There was some mention of Pat Foster. I often wondered what happened to him. I knew him in LA. Yvonne Marais and Guy Carawan were a beautiful duo in LA in the early Fifties. She is the daughter of Joseph Marais and Miranda, one of the best "folk" acts heard anywhere and frequently on the Meridith Wilson radio program. The Marais's were famous in their time but never mentioned today. Anyway, this was all before the Sixties so who cares? Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 21 May 07 - 10:26 PM Frank, I feel a bit as if you're talking about the Gods of Mount Olympus. I first got "hooked" on folk music in 1951 when a girl I was going with inherited a neat old parlor guitar from her grandmother and set about teaching herself to play it, and started learning songs from "A Treasury of Folk Songs" compiled by John and Sylvia Kolb, a drugstore paperback (and still a very good collection). I bought a cheap guitar and a copy of the book, and she started showing me chords. Then we took in a concert by Walt Robertson (he had a local television show at the time) and that really got me going! I met him a day or two later and hit him up for guitar lessons. I bought my first really good guitar in 1954: a Martin 00-18 ($95.00 back then I felt like a junior executive with his first BMW). In the early Fifties, there were a fair number of people around Seattle who were interested in folk music, and they were a pretty avid bunch. Sandy Paton was one. He went back east shortly thereafter. At the time, whenever you mentioned folk music, a few people might say, "Oh. Like Burl Ives?" But most people thought you were talking about Country and Western or "hillbilly" a la Grand Ole Opry. Several people of note managed to make there way out here. Pete Seeger did a concert here in 1954, and it wound up with a party that went until 4:00 in the morning (including Pete). Guy Carawan made a couple of trips to Seattle in the late 50s, once just barn-storming, then a couple of years later to do a couple of concerts. Pete Seeger again in '57. In '57, I went up to Bellingham, Washington to hear Richard Dyer-Bennet (he wasn't booked in Seattle) and had a chance to chat with him for awhile after the concert. Very pleasant and encouraging. Then Bob Gibson and Dick Rosmini in '58. They stayed in Seattle for a couple of weeks, and a lot of song-swapping got done. Roger Abrahams came here a couple of times. I learned several good songs from him, as did a couple of other people. The Gateway Singers did a concert at the University of Washington in the late 50s, and although the other three had to take off, Jerry Walter hung out for a day or two. One evening at a song-fest, he sang one of the nicest renditions of "Pretty Saro" I've ever heard. I tried to reconstruct it and sing it the way he did. I'd heard of Rolf Cahn and Jo Mapes early on (learned some good songs from a record they did—Bay Concerts label), and through records, knew about people such as Paul Clayton, Cynthia Gooding, Billy Faier, and Barbara Dane. I met Rolf in Berkeley in 1959 and Barbara Dane a couple of years later when she and Dick Rosmini opened for Bob Newhart (this led to another all-night song-fest). I met all kinds of well-known singers and academicians (such as Alan Lomax and Charles Seeger) at the Berkeley Folk Festivals, including Peggy Seeger and Ewan MacColl in 1960 and Marais and Miranda in 1964 (a couple of thoroughly charming couples!). Around the Seattle area in the 50s there was Walt Robertson, Bob Nelson (Deckman), Bob Clark, Dick Landberg, Rae Creevy, Claire Hess, Patti McLaughlin, Mike Reedy, Danny Duncan, John and Sally Ashford, Ron Ginther, and several others that my memory can't conjure up at the moment (my apologies!). Some of these folks are still around and singing, and some have disappeared into the mists. Coffeehouses started opening in Seattle in the late 50s, and a lot of these singers performed in them regularly. This incomplete list of local Seattle singers got started well before fall of 1958, which I (albeit rather arbitrarily, perhaps) mark as the beginning of the pop folk craze—the advent of the Kingston Trio's recording of "Tom Dooley" hitting the pop charts, followed by a host of other similar groups, ushering in "The Great Folk Scare." I could reel off another dozen or so, such as Paul Gillinghan and Don McAllister and Alice Stuart and Nancy Quensé who started out in the very late 50s or early 60s, and whose interest was ignited, not by what they heard on radios and juke boxes, but by local singers such as Walt Robertson and Bob Nelson (and, with a blush of modesty, myself), who were out and performing. I also recall going to a Weaver's concert in Seattle. Pete had left the group by then, and they had another singer with them. He didn't see me because I was up in the dark balcony, but I saw and heard him. His name was Frank Hamilton. Lots of folks these days have no idea of the amount of activity that was taking place in the Fifties—and before that! Don Firth P. S. Susan Reed. I first saw her in a movie in 1948 and learned that she had some records out. Somehow, when the pop-folk fad got under way, she just seem to disappear. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,jonathan Date: 22 May 07 - 11:53 AM Anyone rememer Leonda Hardison? I think she was cherokee, with voice of an angel, and such beauty. She played at my parents coffee house, The Turks Head, in Boston in the early 60's. Jonathan Comins |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 22 May 07 - 12:26 PM To Don Firth: I don't believe we ever became acquainted, and you were certainly ahead of the curve in terms of how you met and approached folk music. I was aware of the Weavers and Burl Ives and a few others as a teenager, in the early to mid-fifties, but I freely admit to being one of those "hooked" by some of the "pop-folk" music of the late fifties. There were two coffee houses in Fresno, CA in those days. Those of us who were habitues of one or the other started asking if there wasn't more to this "folk thing" than the slickly produced stuff coming out of Capitol Records, et al. I had the good fortune to come into contact with some local folks who were serious about the pursuit of the real article. Jon Adams, who still does some performing and storytelling up and down the coast, was a sort of role model for a lot of us. Later, while at Ft. Lewis, in 1961 and 1962, I had the chance to perform at The End in South Tacoma for a time. I got up to Seattle on weekends, when I could, and had the chance to pop into places like 92 Yesler. I developed quite a crush on Nancy Quense, who made me look at the music a little more seriously. After the service, I took college classes in folk music and folk literature from Pete Everwine and Gene Bluestein at Fresno State, which opened my eyes a bit further. I no longer perform, preferring to play for my own enjoyment and sharing with a few friends. My time in Washington was life-changing in a lot of ways and I thank those of you who might have been a part of it. I have shared the love of this music with my two sons, one of whom has obviously been influenced by it, even though his primary genre is rock. He still plays my old LP's and tapes. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 22 May 07 - 12:52 PM Addendum: Just where, in the great cosmic scheme, would one place Oscar Brand? I have two old albums of his, "Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads," and another with sea shantys, the name of which escapes me. Of course, he was primarily known, among testosterone-crazed teen boys, for his more-than-risque' material, like "The Winnipeg Whore" and "The Hermit," which showed up at parties along with somebody's dad's Redd Foxx albums, etc. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 22 May 07 - 01:20 PM Jonathan Comins......I played in your parent's coffee house many times in the late 60's (assuming they still owned it then)......Mike Orlen |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 22 May 07 - 01:25 PM Jonathan Comins......that would make you Josette's son?.....it's been a very long time and I probably got her name wrong....a lovely French lady..... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 22 May 07 - 03:09 PM TJ in San Diego-- Most of the singing I did in coffeehouses and clubs was at "The Place Next Door" (next to the Guild 45th theater—foreign and art films mostly—and owned by the same man, hence "the place next door"). It later became "The Corroboree" (Stan James, who bought out the business was an Australophile). I also sang a lot at the Pamir House. Pamir House was kind of a hole, but it was a good place to sing. They usually had two or three singers up front, swapping songs and playing off each other. The audiences loved it. It was like a party. And we got paid for it! During the Seattle World's Fair in 62, in addition to clubs and coffeehouses and a few out-of-town concerts, I sang every Sunday in the afternoon concerts at the U. N. Pavilion, and I got to 92 Yesler fairly often. I did a bunch of guest sets there, but I didn't sing there regularly. Mike and Maggie Molosso were the house musicians. Maggie (now Maggie Savage) is still around and still singing, last I heard. Great voice! The lovely Nancy Quensé is still very much around and singing actively. Still with folk music, but most of her musical activity is with the Medieval Women's Choir, sometimes as a soloist. They did a concert just last Saturday (May 19th). The music of Hildegard of Bingen, at Seattle's St. James Cathedral. Big. Kind of echoey. A great setting for that kind of music! In addition to the guitar, Nancy has also taken up the hurdy-gurdy and the medieval vielle. Tacoma. I sang a concert or two at Pacific Lutheran University during that time, one, as I recall, with a lovely young woman named Arlene Flynn. Only once in a Tacoma coffeehouse, but that was in 1964. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Rosalie Date: 22 May 07 - 08:36 PM I just came across this thread and enjoyed the stories and seeing familiar names. Billy Vanaver seemed to disappear from New York City years ago after he & Livia got married. I heard about them performing and teaching in other areas. They will be appearing in New York City again November 16-18 in Eisteddfod-NY (see www.Eisteddfod-NY.org for details). Do come see them! A number of the other people mentioned in this thread have appeared at Eisteddfod-NY in the last few years. I don't think of Andy Cohen as a little known singer from the past, since he is performing full time now and was the director of Folk Music Week at Pinewoods Camp (Country Dance & Song Society). He was a big hit at Eisteddfod-NY last year - blew away some high school students who were volunteering. Others mentioned above who've appeared at Eisteddfod-NY are Joe Elias, the Kossoy Sisters, Alan Friend, Hedy West, Steve Suffet, and Jeff Davis. Probably a few more. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 23 May 07 - 03:52 PM Don Firth: Thanks for that response. I'm certainly not surprised at Nancy's musical direction. She was always proud of her Norwegian heritage. I recall once, when we were driving near Ballard, that she said, in a mock accent, "Ten thousand Swedes crawled through the weeds - pursued by one Norwegian!" I don't know what she would have made of me - my Grandfather came from Denmark. I'm glad she is well and still so active. Hers was always a more intellectual approach, I think. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 23 May 07 - 07:05 PM TJ in San Diego— A couple of weeks ago, I was trying to find some information about the concerts that we did at the U. N. Pavilion during the 1962 Seattle World's Fair. I checked through the Seattle HistoryLink website and didn't find what I was looking for, so I started googling, putting all kinds of odds and ends into the search boxes to see what I could come up with. And I blundered into a bunch of photos that the University of Washington Libraries have archived. As I went through the photos, I ran into one that just about blew me off my chair! There were photographers all over the place, and we had to just learned to ignore them. This photo was taken at the U. N. Pavilion before one of the Sunday afternoon concerts as we were getting tuned up and ready. HERE That's me (with the high forehead) seated in the foreground, showing my newly purchased guitar (flamenco) to Judy Flenniken, young lady with a very big voice (the following year, she and I did several concerts together). She was interested in getting a guitar like it, which she did. In the background, I don't know who the left hand and banjo headstock belong to, nor do I recognize the banjo player. Nor do I recognize the lad in the background or the man on the far right. But there, also in the background, and between the banjo player and me, is Nancy Quensé warming up (playing a D chord, it looks like). Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 23 May 07 - 08:05 PM Hi Jonathan -- Leonda had left town ere I arrived, but I do recall a tale of Paul Geremia having to share the back seat of her car with a pet ocelot. Mike - Arnold "Doc" Comins sold the Turk's head to Josette c. 1967, but subsequently opened another Turk's Head in Orleans at which place I shared a great weekend performance with Paul MacNeil -- Tom |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frandsen Date: 24 May 07 - 01:44 AM Paul Geremia and an ocelot in the back seat of a car in 1967, you say? Yeah, I heard that story...he did horrible, unspeakable, perveted, Rhode Island Folksinger things to her in the back seat of that car, he did, or at least that's what I heard...and when the State Police and ASPCA ran them down and pulled them over, "Young Paulie" (as he was then known) said that it had been such a long time since he'd had (as he put it) "a little pussy" that the whole thing was hushed up on account of the cops laughing so hard. That's what I heard, anyhow. I think Pat Sky told me. Really. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 24 May 07 - 04:51 PM Don Firth: What a shot! Priceless. Thanks so much for sharing with me. That guitar you have looks a lot like a Goya I had back then, complete with the double white scratchguards. It was lost in a fire years ago. Now, if we could just return to "those thrilling days of yesteryear." Then, again... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 25 May 07 - 04:40 PM Hi, TJ— The guitar in the photo is a Casa Fernandez, made in Madrid. I'd had a guitar made for me by Arcangel Fernandez that I still have. I knew it was an outrageously good instrument when I first got it, but then when I learned that Carlos Montoya had retired his Barbero for a guitar made by Arcangel Fernandez, I knew I had something really special. Later on, several of the top flamenco guitarists were using them. Back then, even top grade Spanish-made guitars weren't all that expensive, but you did have to wait a bit because they were usually made to order. I've had several rather breathtaking offers for it since then, but it's not for sale. The "Arcangel" has a clear plastic tap-plates (golpeador), whereas the Casa Fernandez has white plastic ones. I didn't want to take the "Arcangel" to places where it could be sat on or stolen, so I got a second guitar made by one of Arcangel Fernandez's apprentices. Fernandez inspected them all and allowed the good ones to be sold with a "Casa Fernandez" label. It wasn't quite as good as the Arcangel, but it was a darn nice instrument. Big voice—bitey, like a good flamenco guitar should be. Very good for song accompaniment. It became my "work guitar" during the early 1960s. I don't recall what Judy Flenniken was playing at the time. It was okay, but not great. She heard my Casa Fernandez and wanted to know where she could get one like it. There was a place called "The Guitar Workshop" here in Seattle that imported Spanish-made instruments, and she got one there—a twin of the one in the photo. Later on, I sold the Casa Fernandez to one of my students. Not happy! He'd only had it for a couple of weeks when someone broke into his car and stole it. A bunch of us were cruising pawn shops long afterwards looking for it, but it never did turn up. The guitar Nancy is playing is a Goya G-20. Nice little instrument. She still has it. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Angela Date: 26 May 07 - 05:12 PM Since I found his name here, might I mention that I have an album of Seraffyn Mörk, from my mother's collection. According to the bio on the back cover, he graduated from Harvard and the Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts, and received the Folksong Award at the Int'l Eisteddford in Wales in '53. The record is "Of Love, Of War, Of Many Things Seraffyn: The Last Great Troubadour, and was put out by Columbia, can't tell which year. Looks very 60s. The guy was a freak. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lew Linet Date: 28 May 07 - 05:10 AM Diana Marcovitz is alive and well and writing songs, plays and short stories. She is also acting and directing. She is living and working in Israel and, when not dodging Arab rockets, she writes to me. I was her personal manager when she lived, performed and recorded her Columbia and Buddha albums in New York in the 70's. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jack Silver Date: 29 Jun 07 - 01:17 AM I just found this thread. What a treasure! So many friends and heroes - I camed out of California and moved to Boston in 1968 to play the clubs there. And I just played this memory game with Paul Geremia a month ago. Mary, if you really have a contact for Paul McNeil I would love to have it. The last time I saw him he gave me the pipe we had just uh, well it was long ago. Boston names not yet mentioned: Bob McCarthy, Paul Rishell, Ragtime Elliot Kennin, John Compton. Now some questions for the impressive panel of experts: Does anyone here know or remember Californians Ted Staak/Stack or my old bud Tim McMullen? From Montreal there was a good songwriter who hosted the hoots at the back door. He played a song titled 'Soup d'Jour" that I always wanted to learn. Had a long beard and a blind backup fiddler. Anyone remember his name? Valdy got past us, as did David Rea. They had several albums each. How many of us have Pat Sky stories we can't tell? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 29 Jun 07 - 09:53 AM If you're looking for Paul MacNeil, go here. Haven't seen Bob Mc Carthy for a few years. Same for Elliot, except for hearing one of his songs, "You Ain't Done Nothing If You Ain't Been Called a Red," by someone whose name I can't remember on an album I can't lay my hands on. I'll post again when I have time to look around some more --Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 29 Jun 07 - 10:29 AM YOU AIN'T DONE NOTHING IF YOU AIN'T BEEN CALLED A RED was recorded by Faith Petric. Pat Sky is working for the Pest Orifice in North Carolina these days, I believe. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 29 Jun 07 - 12:35 PM Friends: Just got reminded last night at Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal of Tex Koenig's walking with Bob Dylan (memories, "The Village," N.Y.C.) through Mariposa(Toronto) so many years ago. And how that could happen without anybody paying too much of a mind. Ah, the days of Peace and Love. Sadly, the conversation included the passing on of Scott Lang, brother of Penny Lang, "Canada's First Lady of Folk." Bless... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 02:41 PM From Montreal there was a good songwriter who hosted the hoots at the back door. He played a song titled 'Soup d'Jour" that I always wanted to learn. Had a long beard and a blind backup fiddler. Anyone remember his name? The songwriter (now beardless) was Chris Rawlings. The fiddle player was Gilles Losier. Friends: Just got reminded last night at Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal of Tex Koenig's walking with Bob Dylan (memories, "The Village," N.Y.C.) through Mariposa(Toronto) so many years ago. And how that could happen without anybody paying too much of a mind. You're really wrong about people not paying too much of a mind the time Dylan showed up as a "tourist" at Mariposa. If I recall correctly it was 1972 or '73 and it caused such a commotion that he has to be evacuated by security from the Toronto Islands. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:33 PM C.Ham: HA HA HA HA HA!!!. I didn't hear that part. Tex was a close friend, and the person I got that from knew him as well, and was there. I guess that little walk didn't last TOO long before somebody said, "Hey. Isn't that Dylan?" And then the S#!% must have hit the fan...Tex knew Dylan from the Village so I guess they met for a bit before the crowd took notice. I don't know for sure. I wasn't there. Tex used to talk about Dylan all the time...Another friend gone to Folk Heaven. Anyhound(I think I got that expression from Tex, an old memory), Chris Rawlings was just over here at my studio on Monday, along with the rough edit of his new CD. We talked about going to that Ormstown thing that's coming up. He's in, for sure. And anybody that can memorize "Rhyme of the Ancient Marriner" and turn it into a 50 minute performance piece has got to be some kinda Folksinger, right? Yes, Soup de Jour, Pearl River Turnaround, all those songs... Gilles Losier was the piano tuner for Place des Arts( or at least in their doing it from time to time.) Gilles plays fiddle, upright bass, piano, and God knows what else. I haven't seen him in years. Once told me you can't imagine what it's like being born blind and then experiencing color for the first time(I think it was around 6 years old)A great memory. Funny I don't remember any Hoots at the Back Door. Maybe for a short period. That was usually reserved for top shelf artists. Tex worked the coffee bar for a bit. Do you mean The Yellow Door? The hoots were always on Sunday nights. The second floor near the fireplace was where we used to tune up before going in the basement. I wish they would have recorded some of the stuff that went on. It would have made for an incredible compilation album. You would have gotten artists "trying out " songs on the audience. Wish you well...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:39 PM Hi Bob, I never said there were hoots at the Back Door, I was just quoting the guy who asked the question. From his description I knew he was talking about Chris Rawlings and Gilles Losier. I knew Tex real well. We both moved from Montreal to Toronto at about the same time and he used to call me up and arrange meets in Chinatown noodle joints two or three times a year. Somehow, I always ended up treating him. I miss the big guy. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:43 PM P.S. I don't remember Chris Rawlings hosting the hoots at the Yellow Door. I remember Chuck Baker, a guy named Wayne something, and Mike Regenstreif (now the folk radio host in Montreal) before he started up the Golem which was more Back Door than Yellow Door in terms of the musicians and structure. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:48 PM Chuck Baker hosted almost every hoot that took place at the Yellow Door. I don't recall hoots at the Back Door, but I do recall that that is where I saw a microwave oven for the first time. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:52 PM Mike R and Chuck B (with help from their friends) did so much to keep 'folk' alive in Montreal, live music happening, and audiences involved. There are lotsa folkies out there who owe those guys a serious debt of gratitude. I'm one of 'em. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 04:58 PM Hi Peace, I remember Wayne and Mike hosting a lot of the Yellow Door hoots. Chuck spent most of the Sunday night hoots in those days in the office at the top of the stairs; sometimes coming part way down the stairs and holding up a funny sign to the audience. This would have been the early-1970s. I left Montreal in 1975. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:00 PM Forgot to mention Penny Rose who used to hold house concerts at her house in Morin Heights--before folks ever heard of house concerts. She called the place "Rose's Cantina". That was back in the very early 1970s, I think. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:01 PM Whenever I get to Vancouver, maybe one every five or six years, I stop by Rufus' Guitar Shop and have nice visit with Chuck. Still the same sarcastic 'bastard' with a heart of gold. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:03 PM I just had a pic of Wayne flash into my head. He had black hair, kinda longish, and he was gettin' some bald areas on the top in front/ Nice guy. Yep, you be right. Mike? No bells on that. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:04 PM I think Rose's Cantina got started around 1973. Chris Rawlings and Bill Russell were part of it with Penny, at least in the beginning. I lost track of that scene after I moved away. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:04 PM Chuck is one of the finest people a guy's ever likely to meet. Bar none. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:11 PM Yes. It kinda threw me off. Chuck Baker ran the hoots at The Yellow Door. I guess you also mean Wayne Rose(Penny Rose's Wayne. she ran Rose's Cantina in Morin Heights) And Mike Regenstrief, Folk Roots/Folk Branches, CKUT, also on myspace. I just emailed him a short time ago. The Golem was a nice room, I opened for Roger"Jim"McGuinn(Byrds) there. Mike's a real strong supporter of Folk Music. Dylan is playing Le Festival de Jazz de Montreal, at Place des Arts, but with tix at $125.00, the times are gonna hafta be changin' before I go. Or, maybe not. I'll have to speak to the gods of denari on that one. Or, throw caution to the wind and just do it. I don't expect Bob to be comin' over the house in the near future. If you know what I mean. His new stuff is strong, but I'm from the generation of "It's all over now, baby blue". Chris(Rawlings) was saying something about Dylan hosting some form of radio program or something. We didn't get into details. I gotta get downtown to the Fest. So it's so long for now...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: lefthanded guitar Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:16 PM I am not sure if Chris Rawlings is the songwriter I had an album by (it was recently ruined in a basement flood) If so he was an amazing songwriter.I think One of the songs was Pearl River Turnaround, and went: It's twenty six miles to the Pearl River turnaround Never very far in the sun and the rain If you dont' get back to the Pearl River turnaround you'll never get back again or something like that. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:18 PM That's Chris Rawlings' song. But "it's ONLY six miles to the Pearl River turnaround." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:21 PM Chris is one heckuva songwriter. I'm lookin' forward to hearing him come the end of July. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:28 PM PEACE: Just saw your name pop up. The posts are coming in so fast, so I didn't see the other posts before I could react. You know Scotty's gone. I guess you picked it up from the thread. Saw Diane last night. She didn't know and asked me if I told you. Life is LIFE bro. Hope to see you one day...Remembering Lindsay. Got to hit it for downtown. Hang in there. Bless...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 29 Jun 07 - 05:31 PM Thanks, Bob. Hey, any chance you'll do one song with me at the festival? Maybe two? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 30 Jun 07 - 12:24 PM PEACE: You know, I was just thinking about that...I could call myself "LOVE", and we could then go on as "PEACE and LOVE". Then maybe tour. Sorta like Sonny and Cher, but I WILL NOT wear one of those slinky sequined dresses, no matter what!!! And forgettaboutit on any of that thong thingy, "If I could turn back time time wardrobe malfunction costumey stuff," I have my pride, not much, but some. (Unless, somebody comes up with some SERIOUS coin...) Tell ya what. I was thinking about how to motivate you. You know, how to get that best performance out of you. The "Che Guevara Child" that I KNOW is deep within...So, I have just two words to say to you...George Bush! Hey! We COULD put our old band back together. As soon as some of the boys finish their sentences. Ah yes. These Mudcatters cannot hope to realize the sheer awesome power of THE GREASE REVIEW. The "differences of opinion" before the shows. The mammaries. Er, make that memories. And O.K. O.K., I'll leave the switchblade at home. After all, we are now Peace and Love! But seriously Folks, I'm working on a way to get there as I'm Vehicularly Challenged at the present time. And in closing, a bit of shameless self promotion, My album, "The Ghost of Elvis" was released worldwide on all major digital distribution sites, iTunes, eMusic, etc. last night. So it's Celebration City over here....See ya 'round the festival...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:07 PM You bring a copy with you because I want it autographed. Also, your memory is going. It was THE SUPER GREASE REVIEW. As for the switch blade, it was a gravity knife. Man, you HAVE mellowed. Man, ya gotta get there for Saturday. We can practise for a half hour before the show and the songs will ROCK! OK then, I'LL wear the sequin dress, but no clashing colours. Like, we gotta sound OK but more importantly, we gotta look GOOOOOOD! Bob, I wish you lots and lots of success. I love what I've heard of it. And hey, I ain't got a CD to sell, so why not bring a few with you and see if we can sell them there? I haven't checked with the Festival people, but since we're not gonna carry weapons, maybe they'd consider a quid pro quo. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 30 Jun 07 - 04:35 PM PEACE: There is no CD, yet. I'm doing a "Paul McCartney"(Memory Almost Full). It's a digital download only, but with 100,000,000+ iPods out there alone, PLUS, every computer, phone, and MP3 player totalling 1 BILLION people on-line, do you think anybody will notice? I got ads in N.Y.C. & San Francisco now, and more to come... You can see it now at eMusic. They got me listed under Jazz/Blues. I guess everybody's gonna have an opinion as to what it is. BOOYEAH! bob p.s. it WAS a switchblade!!! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 30 Jun 07 - 08:36 PM Dammit. So PUT it on a CD and autograph it and sell me one. I have no bloody idea what I-pods are. There's a guy on another thread who had a colonoscophy recently and I think he said he said they found some there. You absolutely sure it wasn't a gravity knife? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 30 Jun 07 - 08:50 PM BOB, if you need a ride to the festival I have friends who live near you and will be going, I can ask if they would be willing to accomodate you. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 01 Jul 07 - 11:56 AM bobad/PEACE: That would be great. Chris Rawlings is looking out for a ride for me as well. Thanks. In the last 3 months Apple sold it's 100,000,000th iPod. The mobile device that attaches to computers to download MP3's. I think just about every kid I've seen has one permanently attached(almost). Then Warner Bros. laid off 400 people and Sam the Record Man in T.O. closed it's doors. Then, Paul McCartney did "Memory Almost Full" as a digital download. I keep my ear to the ground on this stuff. And as a suggestion to all Mudcatters, if you want to get your songs to the people, this is going to be the way. Example. My album was released on all major digital download stores on June 29. This morning, it showed up on Google and was listed on the "This is Jazz" blog. Google my name to see what's happening. I'll take care of you Peace. And, if I look carefully through my screen here, you look a little bit like this great Singer/Songwriter I saw a long time ago. He used to do some protest songs and ballads. If you see him, tell him to get writing, find some tekkies, and get his stuff out on the net as MP3's. Thanks. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 02 Jul 07 - 07:24 PM OK Bob, I've been in touch with my friends in Pointe Claire and they are willing to haul your butt down to Ormstown, they are going Saturday AM and returning Saturday evening. If you are interested just let me know and we'll arrange details as the event draws more nigh. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 02 Jul 07 - 08:31 PM Bobad: O.K. Sounds Good...Thanks! bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Jul 07 - 08:48 PM I've just now checked back on this list to find the responses about Leonda Hardison. My dad "Doc" Comins did sell the Turks Head in Boston in '67. He thought it was getting too crazy in the city after he and Rolf Cahn, when walking along the Boston Commons, were mugged by 3 men. The story goes that Rolf spotted them coming and said to my dad: "You take the one on the left, kick him in the balls with all your might. I'll take the other two." Sure enough, the fellow in the middle pulled a knife. Rolf emitting a blood curtling karate scream kicked him in the head, knocking him out. My dad kicked the other guy in the nuts, and Rolf had the third guy by the throat. He quickly gave up the assault and ran. The man with the knife was completely motionless. Rolf and Arn departed the scene swiftly, and they didn't look back. Which reminds me that Rolf was a pretty heavy duty guy, when he was mad. I have other good stories about Rolf. Probably not appropriate for this thread. How many on this list have played at the Turks Head before '68, and who are you. I was the smallest of the 4 kids running around. jonathan |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,carol Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:13 AM I remember a man in a elk skin out fit at the St. Louis folk festival Im guessing it was april 1955,his name was Lingo the Drifter. What happen to him? I was 10 years old and impressed. He said he lived in a mt. top in Tenn. Thank you Carolfernandez@evolutionh.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 09 Jul 07 - 12:08 PM If he had a coonskin cap and claimed to have "killed a b'ar when he was only three..." it would have to be Davy Crockett (the Walt Disney version) as portrayed by Fess Parker. Ironically, I marketed wine for Mr. Parker several years ago. He retired to a beautiful place up in the Santa Ynez Valley, near Santa Barbara, CA. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Andy Leader Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:04 PM I also met Luke Faust, probably 1961 or so, at the Indian Neck folk festival outside New Haven, CT, and I was deeply impressed and influenced. I still occasionally perform one of his pieces, "The Spring of 65", accompanied by frailing banjo. Incidentally, I'm one of those little known 60's folksingers. I roomed with Rick Lee for 3 years, was friends with Taj Mahal and Buffy Saint Marie, and I played with them at the old Saladin coffee house in Amherst, MA. The four of us and some others traveled to New York to hear Bob Dylan, whom we had also met at Indian Neck, when he was the new kid playing at Gerdes, and I drove around NYC with Dylan in my fathers Oldsmobile. I was friends with Hedy West, who was infatuated with "Bobby" at the time, and she introduced me to Alan Lomax for whom I played a version of "Come All You Texas Rangers" which I had heard while hitchhiking through Nebraska. He said I should recite, rather than sing, the song's final line. In 1963 I was living in Dublin where I played at The Pike, an after-hours unpstairs venue, and jammed with Andy Irvine, Johnny Moynihan, Dominic Behan, and others. From the mid 60's on I've been living in Vermont, been in a few different bands, including Rooster Pie with Fiddlin Slim Baker, Fallen Arches with Fred Calrson and Suzie Norris, Barleycorn with Charles Woodard and Steve Hinds, and Rise Up Jack with Charles, John Drury, and Janet Leader. We did the coffee house circuit and some area festivals and First Nights. These days I mostly play fiddle for contradances, though I also do some singing of folk, old time, and parlor songs with Janet for small groups. Andy Leader |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 07 - 03:47 PM Cisco Huston |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,old village Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:33 PM Effie siegerman, query 489, was less a folk singer than an early music specialist. He ran a madgrigal group in the West Village in the mid to late 1950s, doing renaissance and medieval music: Purcell, Monteverdi. He may have played lute or harpsichord, had a wife or girl friend named Felicia and was in a science or math doctoral program at NYU. All of which are distant memories, insecure. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: coldjam Date: 11 Jul 07 - 02:49 PM This is a wonderful thread. Thanks to all youse guys, Frank Hamilton and Bob Rysakiemurflelemumble, Stringsinger, Suffet and the rest who offered those snapshots into the folkera...someone should put them all together in a book...it would make for some interesting reading-especially where and when everyone's paths crossed.Especially since you never hear the real story from the ones who made it to the big time. They seem to gloss everything over. Frank, you didn't mention Pat & Barbara? Atlanta underground era. I woulda been there but I had to be in bed by 8:30. My husband and I do much the same thing, folk & comedy. Except P & B sounded more like Hedge and Donna and we sound more like, oh, Bugs bunny and Daffy Duck.They put out one album which I've heard-made when Barbara had a bad cold, but still good. My husband was their writer & producer, & told me all about it.I'm a boomer, but I'm a late boomer...that's right I'm a trophy wife. Oh yeah. :) Charley, as for representing Michigan I can only offer a duo we just discovered that made some albums in the '60's called "The Keystone Bros". Bill & Steve. Hot musicians and very funny guys...banjo & piano! Trying to find out what happened to them. Cadillac Record in Detroit...anybody know anything about that there? Mike: "Don't cry for us Argentina-just send us some Columbian?" Consider it stolen! Judy |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:08 PM coldjam: BEST mispronunciation of my name, EVER!!! (I have a collection) Now, you COULD have looked down the thread to find out how to spell it, but I'm not complaining... as I adjust my "air-tie" and do my weird Rodney Dangerfield impression, " Hey, I don't get no RESPECT around here!!! Or, as Paris Hilton might say, " Hey, any Press is GOOD Press..." But, kidding aside. This thread, the memories and all, is kind of a tribute to some very talented boys and girls who did the best they could with what they had, and put a smile on a great number of people's faces. Not to mention a song in their hearts. It's a GOOD thing for all of us to remember them, as I think of the great number of bluesmen that were my heroes who passed on with little notice. Maybe someone in the distant future will find this thread in some "cyber-bottle", time-capsule-thing-a-ma-jing and say, "that's the way it was..." It's been a good day as I just got "Top Friended" on Gordon Lightfoot's "Official" Profile on myspace. He had 47 friends so far! Is it real? Don't much care. The thought was great... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: coldjam Date: 11 Jul 07 - 04:25 PM Bob, I actually had the correct spelling of your name right in front of me, as I planned to stalk you to your myspace. I can readily see your chagrin (might check that zipper)at the constant misspelling of your name. Our duo name has been misspelled and mangled so many times that we've considered misspelling it ourselves and seeing if THAT would get them to print it right! And ours doesn't use all the letters in the alphabet (that's just greedy Bob) The cyber-bottle is a nice concept, I'd just like to see it put together. Someone, who has more time than I do could make an darn good start on mudcat. I surfed across a family tree of musicians that revolved around the Kingston Trio a while back. It branched out to include an incredible number of performers who all worked with people who worked with people...kind of a 7 slices of bacon away from Bob Shane or something like that. Expanded, I think it would show clear back and including "Noah and sons" as the original folk group.It's an inbred little group isn't it? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:14 PM coldjam: Was going out for milk, then it started to rain. As my transportation is a bicycle and BMW(Bus-Metro-Walking) I'm back doing this... The Kingston Trio more or less started the Folk thing for me. Before that, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Chris Montez(who I "talked" to on myspace, still doin' it..), Fats Domino, so many others and my trusty 1960 Emerson transistor radio(a birthday gift from Mom, God Bless...) occupied many an hour. Before that it was a crystal set, (headphones, oatmeal box, needle, wire to the plumbing) Got New York with that from Rhode Island, not bad for a 10 year old. The mind jumps back to Lightfoot, who I met at the Yellow Door in Montreal around '71-72'(It's all pretty much of a haze) Or as a biker friend used to say, "If you remember the 60's, you weren't really there..." Anyhound, he was up on the 2nd floor near the fireplace. Where the performers tune up. He was doing Place des Arts, I think, and stopped in to check the place out. I only knew him from "Early Morning Rain", and was expecting this 6'5" Indian wearing buckskins and all and being American, I had never seen him....The Yellow Door was strange like that. I think Leonard Cohen was in the audience at one point and used to go to the Spanish bars along Park Ave. in Montreal. So Lightfoot is in town and my friend, Josh Onderisin is living next door, living on corn flakes and music. Murray McLaughlin was up in that apartment, visiting at one point. Along with Bruce Cockburn, who stayed at a place called "The Ranch", not too far away. This is during the time he had "High Winds, White Sky", the big fuzzy dog, and dressed in "peasant clothes," complete with walking stick. We were all up there and Bruce is standing on his head in the corner of the room. I ask, "What's he doing?" Meditating. As we used to say, " you could smoke the rug in that place..." But Bruce wasn't into it. It's great that he became famous and is doing all the humanitarian stuff...We had a guitar show here in Montreal, July 6-8 at The Hyatt. Got to meet Linda Manzer,(who I'd heard about for (+/-) 37 years a Luthier from Toronto who tells me she made 5 guitars(+/-) for Bruce. What an Artist! And, I got a pick from the late 40's(a National) from one luthier, and a free T-shirt from another. A GREAT memory... Anyway, Jumping around in the time line here, Lightfoot is looking for a guitar player and offers the job to Josh. Don't quote me here, but he had Red Shea for years, but there was one point when the offer was made. $25,000/year in '71-'73 dollars, a princely sum. Josh TURNS IT DOWN. He was working with Chris Kearney and their album, "Pemmican Stash" was just coming out, and he followed that path. I still remember talking to Josh in that apartment. Playing guitar for Gordon Lightfoot was a big thing. You could still do sessions and the shows, but that's the way she goes...Josh and his lady Mary, listening and recording Ram Dass from the radio. All that stuff. He went on to work with Ian Thomas(Painted Ladies), Dave Thomas'(Saturday Night Live) brother. You can see him on one of Rush's album covers, the gray one with the guy and the pentagram. Josh is on the back, dressed as a puppet. Hugh Syme did the artwork. Milan Kimlicka was the arranger. Ian had 6 hits in the Top 10 over a period of a few years, in Canada, and had to go back to Producing at the CBC to make ends meet!. There truly is , no business like show business... That was when everybody was listening to music and, for me, practising 8 hours a day. Getting the technique from the records. It's funny how these things are a moment in time, then drift away in the clouds of your memory...Oh well, I guess everybody reading this has their own stories..More bubbles surfacing from the depths: I hear Gordon Lightfoot offers to play a show for $5000, I think, to the people who ran The Door. For an intimate concert. Which never took place as 5 G's is one thing to Gord, and the Federal Reserve to others. I can't really vouch for the complete accuracy of all of this, as some of it was second hand. We were all just players. It was the love of the music that kept us together. All the hoots at The Door. Oops, the thunder is coming in, gotta shut the computer down, and get that milk...See you all...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 11 Jul 07 - 07:56 PM Hey Bob, What ever happened to Chris Kearney? I remember him playing the Golem quite often in the 1970s, but haven't heard of him since. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 11 Jul 07 - 08:53 PM C. Ham: Haven't got a clue re: Chris Kearney... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:13 PM Hi Kids!: If you Google Chris(he preferred Christopher)Kearney, Pemmican Stash(Food carried in a pouch by native Canadians) you'll find that he formed a band called CHINA. Lee Ritenour, and Jeff Baxter of the Doobie Brothers did some of the session work. Bill King was on keys. Don't know if it's the same Bill King who is one of my friends on myspace, working out of Ontario, a killer player that sounds like Jerry Lee Lewis, Professor Longhair, and James Booker all rolled into one. Bill Baird(hope I got it right) was in there, but you can get the whole story(in part) for yourselves on Google. No trace after that it seems... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Tony Smith Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:53 PM If Toronto folksinger Al Cromwell had been ambitious, I think he would be perhaps as well known to most people who know the 60's folk and blues scene as Ritchie Havens was. Al was incomparably smooth. Uncharacteristically, Al got heavily into booze a his early fiftees and died, I'm not sure why, but probably for reasons that had much to do with his downfall in general. Duke, do you remember Al . . . do you remember his Josh White, Oscar Brown sort of delivery? Do you remember Brigitte D. and Doug Stewart, too? The Dupont restautant? Gee, so long ago. Would we ever have imagined then that we were headed for dumb and dumber, and dumber stil, ecologically above all. Ah, yes, the last time I saw Al was when he played "The Work Song" at my anti-fur demonstration on Yongue street. He did the verses free tempo using a kind of flemenco style continual strum, and then shifted into a shuffle beat for the chorus . . . I've been workin' . . . I've been workin' . . . you know the rest, I'll bet. Oscar Browne died, too. Zal, as you must know. How about Doug Bush? Were you a friend of Chick Webb's? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 12 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM Dang it, Bob R., you've got interesting things to say (love your BMW line) but have you not heard of science's latest triumph, the paragraph? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 12 Jul 07 - 03:48 PM So much going on here. So little time to address it all. I will just say to Tony Smith that Al Cromwell and Doug Bush were great friends of mine when I was a little-known Toronto folksinger in the sixties, working under the handle Joanne Hindley-Smith. And I hung out in the laundromat with Zally Yanovsky next door to the Dupont cafe at the corner of St. George. These days I go by Crabtree and I'm having the most fun of my musical life. I have the world's greatest duo partner in Paul Mills, and I have to say it's way more fun than working alone! You can find us at www.myspace/crabtreemills Btw Doug Bush seems to have disappeared without a trace. Ruth Jones and I have both looked for him to no avail. If anyone knows anything, I'd appreciate hearing from you. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: coldjam Date: 12 Jul 07 - 05:22 PM Do any of you you Canucks know James Gordon? I know he's been around since the '60s but he's still going. One of my favorite singer/ songwriters (obviously cause he does/did lots of humorous stuff.) Bob I second the paragraph request! I'm really enjoying your input-it's just hard to keep my place in that sea of words! Maybe the words up there get so cold they group together for warmth? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 12 Jul 07 - 07:19 PM Cool Beans/coldjam: Paragraphs are for wussies. Next thing you know you'll be wantin' me be be articulate!! And sure the words group together for warmth. It's like a a a a a WORD ORGY!! When it's -40 wind chill, you don't leave anything hanging out by itself. Zippers freeze in weather like that...REMEMBER, I AM AN ARTISTE! This verbiage is a STYLE. A Marshall McLuhan, Stream of Conciousness, Indubitable, Extemporaneous, Inconsequential, CONNECTION with the Source of All Creation!!!! Did Anybody believe that? O.K. O.K. Never let it be said that I would refuse a request. Here's your paragraph... But at the same time let us not forget .....................................e.e. cummings I create I AM THAT... AND, I CoUlD hAVe wRIT tEN IT lIke tHIs, So in TRuth YOU R Lucky... bob p.s. And, on a cold night, if you stare at the above, and it begins to take the shape of an instrument, or you find a meaning in just the form. It will be time to go to the farm.. rebob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 12 Jul 07 - 07:55 PM Washburn house. Anyone recalling stopping by the Washburn house on Root Street in Flint, MI playing with some of the era's best? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,jlmosher Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:07 PM Hi- I wanted to know if anyone knew about this post below. I am a little unclear because Monte Dunn is mentioned or did he write it? Monte was a big part of the Folk Music scene and he passed away this April 25, 2007. His discography is rather extensive to include Ian & Sylvia, David Blue, Music director for Chad Mitchell, Sonny and Cher, Richie Havens, Peter, Paul and Mary as well as a guitarist with Jack Eliot for the 1976 Phil Ochs Memorial Concert at the Felt Forum. He left his wife Liane Dunn and also three daughters on the West coast, Cleo, Jesse and Pam. I am his step-daughter, Jacquie. Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 21 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM Monte Dunn. And thanks for mentioning Raun MacKinnon. Took me back to a night in Toronto when we were both about eighteen and we sat on the floor of her hotel room swapping songs till dawn. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:19 PM Guest jlmosher, the post was made by balladeer and he was citing Monte Dunn as a "Little known 60's Folk Singer", my condolences on the passing of your stepfather, it sounds like he made quite a mark on the folk music scene. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Thank you Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:43 PM Thank you so much for the clarification. If anyone knew him then or now it would be great to hear and I could pass it on to his children. I don't think too many people know he is gone as it just happened. Maybe people will see the post and let others know who knew Monte. My mother phoned Peter Walker, but we have heard very little from the wider music audience. We miss him terribly. He did not use the internet and he was unaware of all the times he was mentioned in interviews and on CD reissues. He spent a lot of his later years writing (both music and journalism) and playing. Thank you for your heartfelt response. jacquie |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: lazeebabee Date: 13 Jul 07 - 11:18 PM Just found this thread. So many memories, thanks! Didn't Sean Gagnier move to California with his wife and she passed there when she was around 28? I first met Tex in the village at the Four Winds where I hung out and even worked in the mid-60s. He and his friend that drove a cab would come by and pick me up and whisk me off to Chinatown. Then he came to Montreal and would whisk me off to Chinatown. I was in a grocery store in Toronto one night and ran into him as he was buying a lemon meringue pie and before long we had added one of Toronto's Chinatowns to make it a truly holy trinity. After a couple of years we moved out of the Annex and fell out of touch with him. Had heard rumours that Lindsey C. had passed awaya but wasn't sure. Some of you probably know that Gary Eisenkraft is gone also. He's the guy that packed up his guitar and moved from Stanley St. (after moving from Bishop) to Sherbrooke and that 'other' music scene, The New Penelope. Saw Thom Ghent's name way up the thread ... dead or alive? Anyone know? And what about Jeremy Taylor? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 14 Jul 07 - 03:45 AM to guest,jlmosher: Dear Jacquie: As I write this I'm very upset. I didn't know Monte was gone. I'm very sorry for your loss and the loss sustained by your mother and sisters, and indeed everyone who knew and loved Monte. I certainly did not mean to minimize his role on the music scene. He was a very powerful presence in everything he did and a wonderful and popular instrumentalist, but to my knowledge not well-known as a singer in the sixties, which is when I knew him. Monte and I dated during his time with Ian and Sylvia. We were both very young. I moved to England for a while, and never did meet up with him again. Thanks for letting us know of his passing. I hope he didn't suffer. Warm regards, Joanne |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,jacquie Date: 14 Jul 07 - 05:50 AM Joanne, Thank you so much for writing. I did not take your writing as an insult to Monte at all. He would be honored that you mentioned him. I am trying to gather information to write a story and eulogy for Monte. No one has written anything, which makes me very sad. But he knew I liked to write and I thought the other day that he would probably tell me "well, why don't you write it" because we used to talk about how much fun it was to work with words. I wrote my first op-ed piece on his little word processor which I have with me and 20 yrs of his writing I have been printing for his kids!!! I would like to write it and maybe you could be a part of it and others if they would like. I would love to write it for him. Monte was a grandfather too! He has 3 grandchildren , one step-grandchild and another grandchild on the way. My mom told me when they used to go to Canada to meet Ian and Sylvia, that they visited someone else up there that he knew non-musician-- woman-- wish I knew so I could contact her-- had a horse farm, upper Ontario I think), but she could not remember. I wrote an email to Sylvia, but never heard back. Monte did quite a bit back in those days and continued to do much for many and I wish he was more acknowledged for his efforts, but many folks were not. You dated Monte before he met his now ex-wife Karen Kruse? I am sorry this news upset you, but by the same token I am glad Monte was recognized by someone who knew him. His children and myself, I am sure would love to know anyone who knew him in his early days. You and people like you are bridges to him and to time. His passing is a very big loss, that few, if any of us, are handling very well. His health had deteriorated over the years and he was not well. I am sure he had a lot of spunk when you met him and dated him. He had one of the most brilliant minds I have known and his creatvity was boundless. I found old paintings he did, his writing, his book collection -- library is unimaginable and he read most of everything, and for the record he played every instrument he could-- he was known for that beautiful Guild guitar which we have both ( acoustic /electric acoustic)-- the acoustic he had when he recorded for Ian and Sylvia we just sent to his oldest daughter which even has his old songlist taped to it. He played the banjo beautifully and mandolin and he had saxophones and also a bass, but his love was those guitars. I have a tape of him from a little concert he did in Coe Park here in Ct that I am trying to convert to a CD for family members. You are welcome to one if I can find someone to tape it. Monte's wonderful humor is on it as well. He would be thrilled you connected with me. One of the local musicians who played on that gig said that Monte played "Misty" a key lower and the horn section and rest of the musicians were struggling to play it and Monte would not let up or change keys.....(Monte was the lead of course!) and in the end he non-chalantly told them he was sorry but he couldn't sing that high so he had to drop it down an octave or two! My late sister used to sing with him on some gigs and he would change on her too and it drove her nuts! I love the stories, the happy and joyful moments especially with regards to music. He did cut one album with Karen on Cyclone Records. I have a CD if you would like one. I am glad you thought of him-- no insult at all. I was so happy to see his name mentioned. Thank you Joanne-- I am glad you knew him. I wish he had continued with Ian and Sylvia. My mom tells me they made an offer for him to do that, but he moved on after 1965 and recorded with Sonny and Cher, toured with Carolyn Hester and Chad Mitchell, was Musical Director for the Mandrell Singers and recorded with Peter, Paul and Mary, and then came 1966.......with Tim Hardin, Tom Rush, Buffy St. Marie, Peter Walker and Kui Lee and that was just that year.... He contributed much. I am glad you knew him. If you would like to hear him and what he was doing after all his recordings, let me know. And let me know if you would like to be aprt o fthe story I would like to write. Writers around here would not make the effort to stretch into the past which was very important time. Monte was also teaching a lot and he worked as a music therapist as well. He was quite a man and a very talented and giving one. Kindest, Jacquie |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 14 Jul 07 - 01:01 PM Jacquie, Thank you for responding to my note in such detail. I am very pleased to meet you. I'm not an important part of Monte's story. We were close for just a little while. He was mostly on the road with Ian and Sylvia, and we saw each other during those times when the troupe landed in Toronto. When he left Toronto in 1965, I was already happily established on the British folk scene. So, though I have a few vivid memories of our times together, I don't have a lot of hard information to contribute to your written history, but I'd be happy to tell you whatever I can. You mentioned a lady with a horse farm. I don't remember who that was, but I do remember visiting a rural property with Monte, somewhere near Peterborough Ontario, I believe. There were horses there (or at least a horse). This was late at night, so I'm fuzzy on the locale. Mostly the focus was indoors as Ian Tyson and Jack Elliot were swapping songs all night, but there was a point where Monte and I went outside to ride a horse. I remember having trouble with the horse and Ian somehow saving the day. Ian was already my hero, but he REALLY was after that. You might be able to track down Ian in Alberta, where he lives now. I would be interested in the CD you spoke of, and anything else you'd be willing to share with me. If you want to quickly learn more about who you're dealing with, the precis of my life is at www.joannecrabtree.com and that site will give you a way to contact me directly. cdbaby.com/cd/jcrabtree and www.myspace/crabtreemills will give you lots of samples of music. Thanks for taking the time to explore this tiny connection. Best of luck with your on-going search. Joanne |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Knutson Date: 14 Jul 07 - 02:50 PM Pamir House... Now there's a memory. Whatever happened to Mike Atwood? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: lazeebabee Date: 15 Jul 07 - 09:19 AM Is it possible that the lady with the horse connection's name was Norma? Became friends with a woman by that name when we lived in a house on Spadina and Bernard. She had friends who owned a french restaurant who came and picked us up one day and took us out to ride. That would have been near the end of summer 1966. She wasn't a folk singer but a definite folk fan. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 15 Jul 07 - 10:42 AM Sorry, Sassy, I have no memory beyond the bits I've described. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 15 Jul 07 - 02:20 PM Mike Atwood. Of the singers who sang at Pamir House, he probably had more longevity there than anyone else. For several months in 1961 in particular, but off and on for a couple of years, I also sang at Pamir House. On Friday and Saturday evenings, usually perched on stools up front (or against the back wall, depending on how you looked at it) and reading from left to right would be me, Mike Atwood, and most evenings, Jerry Murry, and/or Jim Wilhelm. Sometimes either replacing or adding to this mob would be Sue Hall, Judy Flenniken, Nancy Quensé, and occasional others (not all at once, of course). Generally no planned program, we just bounced songs back and forth and played off each other. Kinda like a party/songfest. I'd say that, as far as the entertainment was concerned, people were getting their money's worth! Most people seemed to really enjoy the informality of the whole thing. After the Seattle World's Fair in 1962, I went on to do most of my coffeehouse singing at The Place Next Door (later, when Stan James bought it, it became The Corroboree), and Mike pretty much stuck with Pamir House. I didn't see him very often during that time. Sometime in 1963 I think, Mike, riding his motorcycle, got hit by a car in an intersection and lost a leg. After that, I understand that he moved in with his mother in Arlington, Washington (some miles north of Seattle). I know he did go to the 1964 Berkeley Folk Festival with three or four other people (Pamir House regulars like Jerry Murry and Jim Wilhelm). I ran into them there and we had an after-concert party one night. The last time I saw Mike was at a "Pamir House Reunion" concert, held at a club/tavern on Ballard Avenue in Seattle in 1991 (I've got the T-shirt!). All kinds of people showed up, some folks who hadn't seen each other in a couple of decades. Those who were still singing (most of us) each sang a brief set. Lots of fun and gobs of nostalgia. Big party at Paul Gillingham's house afterward that went on to the wee small hours of the morning. I chatted with Mike a bit at the party. As I recall, he said he was still living in Arlington, but wasn't doing much singing (not much opportunity there). And this I hesitate to mention, because I don't know if it's true or not, but a little while later, someone told me that Mike had passed away. I'd like to hear some of your memories of Pamir House and the folks there, Knutson. Do I know you? Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Knutson Date: 15 Jul 07 - 09:45 PM Don, yes we've met, but didn't really know each other. I, too, played at the Pamir House and most knew me as Doc Knutson. I came in there a little later, '64 or so, and played for several years until my MC'ing duties (replaced Ray Court at KING for the Hootenanys and later working for the Seattle Center as MC of the Seattle Center Folk Concerts & Opera House) got in the way. Had a strong duet going with Anne Billings (that was the best... what a voice she had). I knew Jerry Murray pretty well too. Is he still around... he had everything Van Ronk did down pat and a lot more... Later I partnered with John Hughes in some restaurants in the Seattle area (remember him?). What about Sue Molen (Molin?) Where did she go? Back then, I also played the El Matador (Lake Union), Three Thieves (Everett), a little at the Corroboree as well as Portland and SF. Eventually, career and too much travel got in the way so I drifted away from all of it. Many memories and a lot of really good people and fine music. Sounds like you have stayed very plugged in. By the way, it was John Timmons that owned the Pamir House but no one really saw him. When things were cranking, not only was there music in the front by the stove but also next door (south) and sometimes downstairs too in the passageway to the other side. Atwood still lived on Seaview, across from Ray's Boathouse for a while after he lost his leg with his girlfriend Cele. Still had the '49 Hudson too (still no brakes). It made for an entertaining ride to the Pamir house on the flatest roads possible. Ah... the days... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 16 Jul 07 - 01:39 AM I remember playing alongside Monte and Karen in the 70's in NYC. There was a jam every Thursday at an Italian restaurant on Houston St. They would show up to sit in, along with occassionally, Tony Trischka, Peter Rowan, a 16 year old Bela Fleck, Andy Statman among others. Not much money, but great food and drink and music. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Guest. David Jones Date: 16 Jul 07 - 12:12 PM Just got turned on to Mudcat and this thread. Noted reference to Gloucester Ma. by Frank Hamilton. I do remember Frank being in Gloucester. I remember a fine singer at the Drinking Gourd in San Francisco named Chick Raines, he did a great job on "The Spoon River Anthology", and he had a song with the line "--you just sorta, stepped right on to my aorta--". Charles O'Hegarty made a big splash at the Berkley FF at that time, I think his big hit was "Body in the Bag". At Gerdes Folk City, the actor Dominic Chianese, best known for playing Uncle Junior in the HBO series "The Sopranos", held forth as a singer and the MC at the monday night Hoots. I remember him introducing a very young David Bromberg, and a quite young Lou Killen. Dominic still sings around New York. David Jones |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 19 Jul 07 - 02:36 PM The "sorta...aorta" was from a song called "You Done Stomped on My Heart (and You Mashed That Sucker Flat)" Years ago (must have been '72 or '73) I got a phone call on New Years Eve: "...Hello, Eriks, it's nobody but-a just Mike Porco. Can you come to the club (Folk City) and play tonight? Dominic just-a got arrested." Seems Dominic Chianese had a vengeful ex who would call the cops whenever he had a gig because he owed back alimony or child support. So I played the gig. Some years later I told that story to George Gerdes, who said, in his way, "You mendacious lying scumbag sonofabitch! That wasn't you, that was me!" Turns out it was both of us. It happened two years in a row. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 20 Jul 07 - 10:31 AM Tony Smith: I know most of the people that you mentioned and also the Dupont Restaurant. What about Websters? The only Tony Smith I remember played piano and was a great pool player. Is that you? Doug Stewart I would love to see again. I spent a lot of time with Al Cromwell in the last few years of his life and when it came to his music, he was very special. I love this thread! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 20 Jul 07 - 11:43 AM Slight correction to Duke: The actual name of "Webster's" was THE WEBSTER. There is a song on my first CD, All the Good Times, that features two people who were very much on the Toronto scene at that time. I did not wish to name them because I was very upset when I wrote the song, but I did feel free to name the restaurant where the drama of our lives so often unfolded between two and six AM. Here's the passage: We'd sip coffee at the Webster Every night from two till dawn Scribbling one-act plays on napkins Now the playwright thrill is gone And the wedding we'd been planning When I left for overseas Just another bitter memory Now you're living your disease. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 20 Jul 07 - 11:48 AM I've asked before, but this thread seems to be attracting people who might know the answer to this (these) question(s). Do you know where Doug Bush is? Or if he's alive? Or where he was last seen? Do you know anyonw who might know? Al Cromwell and Doud Bush were a duo back at the time when we were all besotted with Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee. So far, Google reveals nothing. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: lazeebabee Date: 20 Jul 07 - 01:08 PM Good old Webster's (aka The Webster). I worked at Sammy's Pizza place down the road for awhile. But Webster's was the best place to just hang out 'til dawn for sure. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 20 Jul 07 - 01:25 PM Just to return to the Yellow Door hoots for a moment. I had dinner last night with an old Montreal friend and he remembered both Wayne and Mike hosting Yellow Door hoots in the early 70's. Not only that, he remembered Wayne's last name: Tuttle. Definitely not Wayne Rose, penny's ex. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 20 Jul 07 - 03:47 PM To: "Doc Knutson and Don Firth" ... Doc, I don't remember you, but there's a LOT of people of the era I don't remember. (sometimes that's a GOOD thing)? "Bride Judy" and I and John Weiss went to a local Snohomish coffee house gig, maybe 6 or 7 years ago. Baby Gramps was the performer that night. From the stage, he recognized us and announced that he had just heard that Mike Atwood had died. I forget the circumstances of his death. Mike certainly had a powerful impact on people ... some of them good. I always remember him singing ... "I'm Going Back, To Where I Come From"! CHEERS, Bob Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 21 Jul 07 - 03:32 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 21 Jul 07 - 04:31 PM Deckman, Thanks so much. Good to hear you're on a "tear"---I appreciate it!Got your message forwarded to me in Manitowoc, Wisconsin by Kat. Carol and I were there with family and hanging with Fritz and Mary Schuler at their great Golden Ring Music Store And Folklore Center all this last week. First vacation in many years. Onward and upward, Art T. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 21 Jul 07 - 07:27 PM Ain't olde friends great! Bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,comins Date: 26 Jul 07 - 09:12 AM My mom Sallie Comins tells me that Leonda Hardison had a pet ocelot she kept in her appartment, so the story must have some truth to it. This gorgeous girl with a panther... Agona, Leondas daugther, was born at the Turks Head Coffe House in Wellfleet, on Cape Cod. My dad performed the delivery there - they couldn't make it to the hospital. jonathan |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 26 Jul 07 - 07:20 PM C.Ham: Just saw your post re: Wayne Tuttle/The Yellow Door and the memory just snapped back to his face. Always had a smile and a laugh. With the beard and smoking the pipe if memory serves correctly. Was well read and articulate too. As Bob Hope used to say, "Thanks for the memories..." bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bostonboy Date: 26 Jul 07 - 09:31 PM And the great Rob Ambrosino. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,David Asia Date: 03 Aug 07 - 07:53 PM Well, I was sitting on my riding mower on a beautiful Methow Valley day, and I begin thinking about the Pamir House, about sipping Chocolate Ongeats, and, every now and then playing a set - a few Kingston Trio songs, some special Israeli music, other folky things. So I googled, and, low and behold. I spent many hours listening, playing music, enjoying the atmosphere which made me feel like I was on the inside of something warm and special. What a great place to hang out, feel good about being young (or old) and alive. Part of my life which will forever remain special. So it is good to know that those days live on in the minds and hearts of others. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:42 PM Anyone remember Barry Skinner of Coventry. he did an album called Abroad as I was Working Nice version of the Martin Graebe song Honiton Lace, and he was a banjo player too. Also the husky voiced Pete Shakespeare - who came from sort of Cannock area, I think. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:52 PM Some of you folkies out there were also rockers. Anyone remember "Natural Gas" that played in Montreal for a bit? And of course there was some Irish folk music as well. A great band in the late 60's was "Cutty Sark". Then in the country scene was "Pete and The Country Gentlemen". My brother and I were on our way to the place where they played (The Wagon Wheel)on Union Street when a few trunks being refused entry set the place on fire. I believe 37 or 38 lives were loss. Adrien (beer) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:54 PM trunks "mean drunks". |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Knutson Date: 04 Aug 07 - 11:24 AM To David Asia - Incredibly well put. My sentiments exactly. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 05 Aug 07 - 05:39 AM To weelittledrummer, could that be Paul Shakespeare you're thinking of? He lives in Toronto and writes funny songs ... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 Aug 07 - 06:16 AM could be! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jo Mapes Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:03 AM So great to read Frank Hamiltons post. Like Frank's, mine is more about the fifties. I lived in San Francisco when I did my first concert, with Rolf Kahn.Iturned my old Junior high friend Odetta,on to folk music when she came to San Francisco.Frank Robinson(Banjo)backed her up then. Guy Carawan told me that folks were hearing about me, in L.A. Said they reffered to me as "That new Peoples singer" I said "The what?" Moved to L.A. and met Herb Cohen who introduced me to Frank. We took him out for his first chili dog. Herb introduced me to Butch and Bess Hawes, and their home hoots on Goat Gulch. The novice folk singers would be sitting on the floor,at the feet Pete Seeger,who usually took a chair. The floor sitters were Jack Elliot, Frank Hamilton, Marcia Berman, Fred Gerlach,Guy Carawan,Dave Zeitlin,and me.(That I can recall)Dave Zeitland had a gorgeous voice,and taught me "The ballad Of The South Coast". The best times then, were Butch and Bess's place on Goat Gulch. Daryll Adams, Jack Elliot and I hung out one night in a parking lot, leaning against James Deans car, waiting for hm to show, while Daryll entertained passers by, laying his banjo. He taught me a little banjo work, and his song, "Portland Town, which was a well known anti war song.He played a really nice double thumb strum. Frank's banjo was amazing work was extrodinary.I also enjoyed his singing,and would ask him if he would,but he was uncomforatable about his voice.I liked it a lot. Ed McCurdy and I did a "Camera Three"(T.V."Culcha"), Bob Gibson,Frank and I appeared as a trio on Hugh Hefners"Penthouse" T.V show. One more nameI must mention: Mike Settle. I didn't hear him until later, when we were doing the "Hootnanny" T.V show. Mike had the most straight ahead,clear voice I've ever heard. It went out straight and pure as an arrow, with no strain at all. When we did a duet, they had to turn his mike way down, and mine, way up. If I go into the sixties, I'm going to be pre-viewing my book about all of us over the years, and so....I'll stop. It's fun being here at Mudcat, I remember Frank Hamilton fondly, among other memories of those days. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:46 AM Wow, Jo Mapes right here on this thread. I'm thrilled and honoured to be sharing a tiny corner of the universe with you on the Mudcat. I would certainly never think of you as "little known" at that time, and neither was Frank Hamilton. I was a little-known folksinger in Toronto and London, Eng., working under the name Joanne Hindley-Smith. Now I'm plain Joanne Crabtree. I was delighted to run into Hedy West here some years ago, and if Len Chandler checks in, I'll freak out totally!!! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Gary LeDrew Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:02 AM I hung out in folk scene in Toronto in the early sixties. I knew Al Cromwell he hung out at my bar in the seventies http://garysbar.blogspot.com/ I remember Websters and the cellar, John Smith, Joanne Hindley Smith, Dirty Shames, the Fernwood trio, The Cellar, etc. etc. I worked at the second Mariposa Festival (note I am not a musician) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 06 Aug 07 - 05:43 PM Jo Mapes. Outrageous! Do you remember the record that you did with Rolf Cahn on Bay Concerts label? It had a picture of a steep San Francisco street on the cover and photos of you, Rolf Cahn, and Fred Gerlach (I think he was backing Rolf on some songs) on the back, with notes by Rolf. I encountered a copy in the late 1950s and learned a bunch of songs from it, including the duet you and Rolf do: a beautiful rendition of "Delia's Gone." I stole that one wholesale, including as much of the guitar part as I could. I had a chance to be in the Bay Area in 1959, where I met Rolf Cahn. At a party, I sang "Delia's Gone," and Rolf sat there grinning. He knew right off where I'd learned it. When I finished, he came over, knelt beside my chair, and said quietly, "You missed a chord." Then he showed me how to wind it off with a Dm rather than a D, and take it back to the A. The perfect touch! Actually, in just a couple of days, I learned an immense amount from Rolf. Not just chords and such, but a whole attitude and approach. And from your sensitivity and perceptive touch with the songs, I learned a great deal by just listening to you on that record. From what I started hearing on recordings in the early Sixties, I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one who learned a lot of songs from that Bay Concerts record!! Thank you, Jo, for your music. And keep us posted as to how the book is coming along. I'm already pawing the ground waiting to read it! Don Firth P. S. By the way, I still have the record. It's a prized possession. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mitch Gawlik Date: 09 Aug 07 - 03:22 PM I hope you don't mind a newcomer sticking his nose in, but I've been fascinated by the post. And it's great to see that folks like Frank Hamilton & Jo Mapes are among you. As a teen in the '60's my only avenue into the world of folk music was Chicago's WFMT and its' program "The Midnight Special". Of course I got to hear Gibson & Camp, Paxton, Ochs, Eric Andersen, Frank Hamilton, Ramblin' Jack and so many more established artists. But there were the others that some of you have touched on that I only heard once or twice and then never found recordings of like: Joe Klee ("Old Town") Sam Hinton ("The Bent County Bachelor" and "Coyote") Terry Callier ("Blues For Marcus") Andy Stewart ("Donald, Where's Your Trousers") Aliotta-Haynes minus John Jeremiah ("Rockefeller's Blues") Fleming Brown ("The Ford Machine") Biff Rose ("Evolution") Stu Ramsey ("Rumble On Rush Street") George McAlvey ("The Ultimate Rambling Song") Grant Brader ("Boil That Cabbage Down") Kevin Henry ("Penny Whistle") They were and, basically still are little known, by me, 60's artists. Again, my only contact with them was thru WFMT. Which brings to mind a recording I've tried to find for years, I believe it was called "Train On The Island/Brazilian Train" by Frank Hamilton & Volucha. Fortunately, I still have it on a 7" reel from the late '60's. I finally got to see live folk music by going to The Earl Of Old Town and Somebody Else's Troubles in Chicago and seeing Fred Holstein, Jim Post, John Prine, Ed Holstein, who's great "Jazzman" was recorded by Bonnie Koloc. These are my little known folk artists along with Ginnie Clemmons, Stuart & Jerome, and someone who seems to have fallen off the face of the earth, a fellow named Steve Unger (Ungar?). WFMT had three songs by him that they played; "Play In The Sun", "Division Street" and "I'll Be Moving On" One other thing I'd like to touch on, Frank Hamilton mentioned that Michael Bloomfield became mildly famous and someone took exception to that statement. He stated Mike was a founding member of the Butterfield band. Not so, I'm afraid. Elvin Bishop was in the original line-up and Bloomfield was playing around Chicago with Charlie Musselwhite and others. I believe Bloomfield joined up at the request of producer Paul Rothchild, but initially refused. By the way, if anyone knows more about Steve Unger, I'd sure like to know about it. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Gurney Date: 09 Aug 07 - 11:03 PM WeeLittleDrummer, you beat me to it, mentioning Barry Skinner. The very first folk club I ever went to, (modern jazz was my thing, right?) Barry did a spot. He snarled out 'Fanny Blair', the most powerful performance that I'd ever heard, then, or since. Never been game to sing it myself. It might affect some impressionable young person like it did me. Barry was one of the founders of the folk revival in Coventry. Unknown? Then, people like The Furey Brothers, Sean Cannon.... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 10 Aug 07 - 02:47 PM I did a floorspot at one of those 'can't run a piss up in a brewery' attempts to start a folk club at Tamworth Arts centre - must be about 1977. Barry Skinner was the main guest. i remember he was quite clued up. he could frail his banjo. he was playing DADGAD on his short arm Gibson guitar, in that sort of rumpedy bumpedy style that Carthy was playing at the time. In fact he did Arthur McBride in that style - so very different in feel from the slow reflective way Paul Brady or Andy Irvine had just aboout started playing it in G tuning. Rosie Hardman was going round at the time playing a song about Irvine who was very much her cup of tea - called The Man who sang Arthur McBride - although she wasn't there that night. Julie and Chris Lloyd (traddy Tamworth couple - very accomplished) did the support slot. I bought the album - Barry said he was running a restaurant and getting about one gig a month, which he felt was about enough. Don't think I saw him again. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 11 Aug 07 - 02:47 AM Mike Bloomfield was known throughout England as he had a track on a sampler album which was cheap in a time (1967) when albums were expensive. The album was called The Rock Machine turns you on. Bloomfield was playing searing lead in an ensemble called The Electric Flag and they did a track called Killing Floor. After that he came over as the Paul Butterfield Band - they were damn good, but by then the Blues Revival as lead by Mayall, and the Yardbirds, and The Stones, the Animals etc was nearly three years in the past. And English pop audiences DO crave the latest thing. Also on the album were Moby grape (Can You see me), Tim Rose (Come Away Melinda), Taj Mahal (Statesboro Blues) and Roy Harper (Nobodys Got any money in the Summer). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 13 Aug 07 - 11:01 PM Ruth Pelham Judy Gorman-Jacobs |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 14 Aug 07 - 12:56 PM Has anyone heard, heard of, or know anything about a singer named Joe Hansen? Or "Hanson", but I think the name was spelled with an "e." All I know about him is that he had a record out sometime in the mid-1950s (a 10" LP). He had a pleasant voice, a sort of reedy tenor or light baritone, and the drawing on the album cover showed him accompanied himself on an autoharp, which he played flat on his lap, not held upright with the left arm the way lots of people play one these days. I have no idea of where he was from or where he may have performed. Of the maybe ten or so songs on the record were "All Through the Night," a sort of fast rendition of "Greensleeves" (with more verses than one usually cares to hear), "The Drownèd Lover," and the nicest translation (from the Welsh) of "Venture Gwen" that I've ever heard or read. That's the song I'm really looking for, but there were a couple of other good songs on the record that I haven't heard anywhere else. A friend of mine had the record, but when he passed away some years back, his kids sold his marvelous collection of folk records to some second-hand record store (#@$%&!#! mutter, snarl!!). Anybody? Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Colin Randall Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:43 AM I have come late to this thread, and just rejoined Mudcat after a while away, but would also like to mention Marie Little - a great singer and terrific person, with whom just about very bloke I knew in North Eastern folk clubs was madly in love. Two bands from then: Therapy, with Sam and Dave from Northern Ireland and a fine English singer called Fiona, instrumentally brilliant though their traditional and covered Dylan/Cohen etc repertoire was much better than their own, slightly pretentious stuff And the Reivers, a rollicking Geordie/Irish group fronted by Geoff O'Connell. Our folk club, Bishop Auckland, was heaving - and happy - whenever they played. But is memory deceiving me? Both may have been 1970ish I am also trying to get an old friend from Co Durham, Phil Steele, badly affected these days by MS and no longer able to play, to write on Salut! Live about his own contribution to the circuit (excellent guitarist, decent blues/contemporary folk singer) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:02 PM I noticed this in the line up for Fylde Festival this year:- 103 10.45am CHURCH SERVICE Mount Methodist Church free 12.00pm with Fiona Simpson Mount Road Festival goers welcome. I guess that's Fiona from Therapy and I notice theres a songwriter called Anna Shannon booked. I suppose that might some relation of Dave. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Warwick Slade Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:33 PM I have not read every entry here but a few names I remember from my club in the Isles of Scilly in 60s:- Barry Skinner (already mentioned) Gwen and Gordon (from Wales) Peter Collins (my cat did whoopsie in his suitcase!) Contrast John Steel (mate of Cyril Tawney)(remarried!!) Jimmy McKinley (great pipe player)(Died) Jon Rennard (Killed) Martin Winsor (WE argued all night) Brenda Wooton & John the Fish (Brenda gone but Fish still around) Jack & Maggie King (tried to find them but fear nolonger with us) and a scottish plumber working in Plymouth call DICK GAUGHAN (I wonder what happened to him?) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 15 Aug 07 - 04:51 PM to Guest Bob Ryszkewicz, glad that you mentioned Fred Torak earlier on. He's one of my very best friends ever. Living in obscurity in an art gallery in Vankleek Hill. Still teaches a few students. You're right he is a musical genius and mastered many stlyes. Used to be in a Montreal band in the early 60's called the Four Frenchman. None of the members were French. Anyhow, their manager would bribe the big concert promoters to book the band as an opening act for the important shows. That's how they opened for the Beatles, Stones, Hermits, Dave Clarke Five etc. They would make the payola bread back fast from the better local gigs after the publicity of the big shows. He had a folk group early on that played a lot in Boston and the New England area. Howard Roberts stayed at his house when he was still living on Tupper St. Anyhow, Rick Whitelaw introduced me to Fred in '75. A year later he was producing my first(and last) vinyl album. That one took a year. Did I ever learn a lot. So lucky that he was involved. He could read flyshit at 100 feet, and had hearing beyond the normal range. you might like to know that he wrote the English liner notes on my last CD. "Insurgent Sun" and played a guit. intro on one of the songs. One of my dreams is to do a guit. duo project with him, while we still can. A remarkable person that shaped many aspiring players perception and direction. Get in touch, I'll pass along his contact info. I expect to see him in a few days. To Frandsen. we met once or twice. I lent your bass player at the time, Danny Counts, an amp for a gig at the Golem. I think Danny Greenspoon set that one up. It was an old Fender Super Reverb. Not exactly built for bass, but it was a folk gig, so it didn't blow up or anything.I'm glad that you're still around. Also, the mad Micmac, Wille Dunn is a dear friend of mine. We played a lot together over the last 10 yrs. He just turned 66 a few days ago. That story about him and Patrick Sky is a hoot. We got into a lot of funny situations. Spent a week with him in Berlin once.. also Paul Geremiah, use to drop by my house when I was living in Montreal. We'd sit around and play, he'd tell stories. The first time I heard 'Louise' by Siebel, Paul sang it in the kitchen. Man, that's a person who I almost forgot about.... but it's been a long while. Glad this thread triggered my recall !.. so stay well all. Ron |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 15 Aug 07 - 10:51 PM Hi Ron Bankley&Friends: Yes Ron, I just sent you a friend req on myspace...That whole time with Fred Torak, Rick Whitelaw, Howard Roberts(probably when he was in town doing the seminar at the musician's union), Frank Quinn(Bless), Paul Geremia, and various other bandidos, Frandsen, Koenig, Murdoch, Greenspoon, the whole crowd, was like a meteor shower of some very talented people. Everybody floating back and forth. I met Fred through Frank and Rick while I was studying Jazz Guitar. Anybody who can transcribe John McLaughlin's "Birds of Fire" while it is playing has got my vote. Still remember, although I've mentioned this before...Howard Roberts turns his back on the seminar crowd, strums a chord, and Torak goes Em7Flat5. Howard says, "right". During this time I was with Josh Onderisin(Guitar-Ian Thomas) in T.O. and we go to George's Spaghetti Joint/House to hear Barney Kessel. Everybody's chompin' on meatballs and there's a free table up front so I pounce on it, which gets Barney's attention, so he asks, "Musician's?" We move our heads up and down like those plastic German Shepherd dogs you used to see in the back of cars, like bobbleheads. What gets me about all these guys was their humility and generosity. I found this thread open just after I visited YouTube and was watching Tommy Emmanuel. He's got some great stuff up... See Y'all... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Guitaropsimath Date: 16 Aug 07 - 12:12 AM What a great thread! These days, strolls down Memory lane are short ones, but I was delighted to see Tom Rush on Youtube with his Remember song. I saw Spider John Koerner at Merlefest in 2005, says he hates Rent Party Rag. But whatever happened to Denny Henderson and Bill Moss, 2 New Yorkers who spent the mid-60s in Texas? Doug |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,rowan kris hill, formerly kris robinson Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:14 AM hi wow,looking through this section shot me right back to the time i came down from vancouver to play briefly but happily with ph phactor, and met a lot of great people, including mike atwood. i was sorry to hear of his passing. i wonder how and where davey coffin is these days, and paul bassett. davey and john hendricks were just superb musicians. i live way up in the orkney islands now but i do know where jerry murry is; he lives in canada,in vancouver. many thanks for the tales of walt robertson, who helped me get through the terrors of my first year playing for other people, at the ark. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Paco Rabanne Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:21 AM What ever happened to that squawking 60's knob... Bob something or thing... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:23 AM do any of you Yanks remember a terrific young banjo player called Pete Roberts who came to England about 1966 to tour with Bill Clifton? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 16 Aug 07 - 08:45 AM what about Fran and Gilles in the Montreal area. Fran Aiken lives out near the Ontario border now. played a couple of gigs with Torak at the Mayshow in Vankleek Hill. Gilles Lozier lives in the NDG area, still tunes piano and is a walking archives of obscure folk and roots music. He took up violin after his long association with Ti-Jean Carignan. I saw David Whiffen out of Ottawa a few years ago at a concert supporting the CBC on parliament Hill. Mr "Driving Wheel".....of course there's a whole crew on the Franco side of things... the chansonier... a list onto itself.... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 16 Aug 07 - 02:38 PM Gilles Lozier lives in the NDG area, still tunes piano and is a walking archives of obscure folk and roots music. He took up violin after his long association with Ti-Jean Carignan. Gilles retired from piano tuning a few years ago and moved back to New Brunswick. Although I think he still back to Montreal often. I saw him about a year ago at Kirk MacGeachy's funeral in Montreal. Gilles was playing fiddle long before he hooked up with Jean Carignan. He fiddled on an early Chris Rawlings LP several years before his association with Carignan. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,ibo Date: 16 Aug 07 - 02:45 PM old helmet mcdowell,30 stone balladeer,used to play the fiddle with his feet.He once sang on the back of a dumpster at Cleveland show,throwing jelly tots at a pig with a wooden leg.His wife was a scrum half for wigan,and knitted scarves for the local hospital.He died trying to morris dance on the transporter bridge and was buried in the odeon cinema in stockton.Sadly missed by all local butchers and pie makers |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 16 Aug 07 - 03:53 PM thanx Ham, a friend of mine ran into him in NDG early on in the summer, I wasn't aware that he played fiddle that long. I remember him most with the upright bass. interesting man,...R |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 17 Aug 07 - 12:39 PM Hi Bankley: Yeah I remember that gig with Danny Counts, who is still living in Roanoke Va, and still writing ridiculously funny songs. Got an email from him just the other day. It read: "Silence Is Golden, But Duct Tape Is Silver." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mrmoe Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:31 PM Anyone know the whereabouts of Mike Fairbanks, Janet (Blair) Klimoski, Ed "Jingles" Richman, or Paul MacNeil?.....New England performers of the mid to late 60's..... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 17 Aug 07 - 06:43 PM Hi Erik, that's hilarious. Glad to know that he's still at it. We can use all the laffs that we can get. My buddy Jim Page, has a new song out called "Petroleum Bonaparte".... Jim's been going pretty well non-stop since the '60s... lives in the Seattle area now... I'll send away for some of your songs, if the offer still goes.. stay well.... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 18 Aug 07 - 11:18 AM Paul MacNeil -- Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 18 Aug 07 - 10:01 PM Hey Bankley: Sure the offer still stands, but my printer is, at the moment, totally FUBAR so I can't print out the liner notes, tho I think I can get my lovely neighbor to do it for me. I'll ask. Meanwhile I open on Monday in the new musical, "John Goldfarb, Please Come Home!", with book by Bill Blatty (who wrote "The Exorcist" and other comic novels) and songs by wonderful, talented, modest me (plus Bob Hipkens and Michael Garin) at the Fringe Festival here in NYC. We shall then sell the option for huge bucks and move to Broadway where we shall sweep the Tony Awards and then I'll be able to get my goddam printer fixed. How's that for a plan? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 19 Aug 07 - 01:31 PM Fastblind Eric Flatpick: Ah, you theek yer messages are not beink intercepted? It has long been known you haf exscaped to that country(You should be reading this in some bizarre Russian/Oriental Dialect)...Sounds like a plan. But listen, no nudity in the show, O.K. Unless, of course, they come up with some serious coin, major dubloons, liquid cash. Then, you NEGOTIATE for a percentage of the rights. Then you MAKE the Sons o' Biatches have M&M's in your dressing room. But only in the color and temperature YOU demand!!! And in the memory of Tex Koenig,"GET THE MONEY UPFRONT!!!!!!!" bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 20 Aug 07 - 01:20 PM Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers From: Bobert Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:42 PM There were a few other folks doing some folk music back then. Like Bob Martin. Anyone remember him? He's still playing somewhere. Art Traum? And of course, Loudoun Wainwright. (Opps, too big a name. Sorry). Bobert Re: The above message. I didn't see it the first time through this endless thread. I used to play with a guy named Bob Martin in California. I have been trying to locate him - last seen in Arizona, I believe. Where was this fellow from? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lee Gilliand Date: 20 Aug 07 - 11:00 PM Who found my name and where are you? I was with the Journeymen way back when . . . . Lee.moondanse.trio@comcast.net |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,MARC S. SILBER Date: 20 Aug 07 - 11:39 PM Iknew Nick PARRY-JONES when I was in Cambridge,England Summer of 1965, and a bunch of us crashed in his King 's College room. It was One eyed Davey, the Harmonica Whiz, Danny Kalb, and me. Later Nick came to NY for a visit and it was just when the BIG BLACKOUT occured. I saw him around the Village for a while and then never saw him again. I remember hearing Paul McCartney sing "I'M DOWN" on a recording when we stayed there with Nick. Peace without bombs, Marc S.Silber www.marcsilbermusic.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,sinky Date: 21 Aug 07 - 02:04 PM Randy Otoole,the limbless pole vaulter,used to launch himself into the crowd whilst singing Spinners songs.He died trying to swim the channel,he got cramp in his ears |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk - Willis Alan Ramsey From: toster Date: 23 Aug 07 - 01:29 PM A few months back someone asked about Willis Alan Ramsey. He's still in the Texas - Oklahoma area. I've seen him play at the Old Quarter in Galveston (a direct descendant of the Old Quarter in Houston in the 60's where Townes Van Zandt played). He's performed with Lyle Lovett a few times as well. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 23 Aug 07 - 01:54 PM Sorry about the keyboard malfunctions! For Lee Gilliand: The question about Bob Martin, AKA "Marty" Martin, was from me - your-once-upon-a-time group member from Fresno. I have not been searching diligently, but would like to know what became of Bob. I hope "Moondanse" is doing well for you. It must be great to be able to pursue the musical muse as you are, long after most of us have limited our playing to an occasional weekend or just "noodling around." My heartiest best wishes! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 23 Aug 07 - 02:09 PM Lee Gilliand: This is your once-upon-a-time musical associate from Fresno. From time to time, I have inquired about Bob (who also billed himself as "Marty Martin" when last I spoke with him, just after he returned from Viet Nam). As I may have mentioned in an e-mail I sent some time ago, Bob became acquainted with mind-altering substances while in the Army. To what extent that led to later issues, I don't know. What I remember about him is the gentle, creative side he showed when we worked together in the early '60's. I hope he has found a way to reach back and get in touch with that. I hope "Moondanse" is working well for you. I'm glad you are still able to pursue the musical muse. As for me, though I have a closet full of guitars, it is mostly a weekend thing or simply "noodling around." My son has had a band for the past seven years. They recently were asked to work on a soundtrack for a film; the first real big break for them. They all work full time to support the dream. All the best to you! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,elbows Date: 24 Aug 07 - 11:33 AM Old Sharky Fester,the shanty king of Grimsby,used to gut fish whilst singing songs about the local trout farm.He once sang under water for fifteen minutes but sadly never recovered consciousness and was buried under Vin Garbetts patio.A truly remarkable man |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bruce Farwell Date: 24 Aug 07 - 06:07 PM It was nice to find this site and see that some other people from the past remember me from the '60's. After leaving the Village, I performed with the Bitter End Singers and as a soloist for a few years. I later went back to college, but I have always kept my hand in music and now perform with my wife Renata as "Gemini". Seeing so many threads from others about folk singers from the '60's made me think fondly of my own remembrances of lesser-known singers from that era. Let me cite a few: Len Chandler--powerful singer, writer, performer. Great songs and one of my earliest influences in folk. Sonny Moore--light blues player with a great low voice. I believe he is gone now, but he was a fine performer back in the Village days. Fred Neil and Vince Martin--both excellent performers as soloists, but a knockout as a duo. They were mesmerizing to watch on stage. John Townley--terrific finger-style guitarist, blues player Bert Mason--powerful, riveting singer, style very reminiscent of Richie Havens. John Bassette--powerful singer and performer, wrote a lot of good songs. Played as solo and in various groups, particularly Sammy Davis Review. Died last year after suffering a serious stroke. Lance Wakely--excellent guitarist, did some soloing, backed up a lot of groups. Now living in Poland and touring Europe as Dr. Harmonica. Paula Ballan--used to sing a little in the Village, but helped to get many performers booked into clubs and festivals all around New York. Still a home base for many wayfaring musicians. Jackie Washington--excellent performer, one of the mainstays at the old Club 47 in Cambridge. One of my earliest influences on playing finger-style guitar. I think someone wrote that Jackie is still performing. I would love to see him again sometime. Chris Smither--still going strong, writing some great songs, superb guitarist, still tapping his feet with every song. I still remember him singing in Boston and his great version of the "Titanic". Robert L. Jones--tremendous performer of Woody Guthrie songs. Played a beautiful 00-40 Martin guitar, the first time I ever saw one of Martin's special abelone-inlaid guitars. I now have a couple of those special guitars. Bonnie Dobson--beautiful lady, lovely voice, mesmerizing on stage. I understand she is also a college professor in England. Raun MacKinnon--had a strong voice, great guitar style, disarming smile when you talked to her. There are so many more to remember and who deserve to be mentioned, but I have already taken up more than enough time and space. This is a great site for all of to reminisce about the special days and special music that we sang and played in the '60's. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 25 Aug 07 - 04:56 PM Memo to Bruce Farwell: I cannot bear to think of Len Chandler as "little-known", but I guess you'd have to say that as performers go, he was a folksinger's folksinger. He had such a huge influence on the writing and performing styles of so many of us, including some who climbed to the very top of the fame ladder. Fortunately, Len did very well in the song-writing end of things, and never did fade away. He operated a successful and high-profile song-writing school in LA until just a few years ago, when he decided to retire. Last time I spoke with him, he and his lovely wife, Olga, had just returned from travelling in Europe. Balladeer |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 25 Aug 07 - 08:00 PM The thing about Sharky Fester (that people forget)was his comely good looks and and generally sexually obliging nature, when he was a slip of a lad. There was some talk that he was the original Handsome Cabin Boy - a depraved fantasy that beset fisherfolk, particularly when they were pissing over the side, and thinking 'there must be something else I can do with this bugger'. Far be it from me to hypothesize, but I reckon Sharky had his front teeth removed to further his career as the ships tart. I daresay it supplemented his meagre wages as a fish gutter - though they do say, he had a way with whitebait that was bordering on the inspired. When you hear a reallly bad impersonation of Martin Carthy singing three score and ten boys and men set sail from Grimsby town and the the motor cruisers and two man kayaks and they all were drowned - its just like Old Sharkey Fester is in the room, only its in key, sort of. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,elbows Date: 26 Aug 07 - 04:28 AM I am so glad you remember him with such fondness,Weelittledrummer,he cartainly was a maestro.His rather smelly family will find comfort at your kind words,Sharkeys brother has promised to keep his memory alive and will be trying to beat his underwater shanty singing record in Whitby on monday. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Peter Mork Date: 02 Sep 07 - 03:33 AM In response to Angela, 26 May 2007: I am happy to see Seraffyn remembered. He was my father's younger brother, real name Donald Mork, based in western Massachusetts. Not sure "freak" does him justice, but he certainly lived an unconventional life, and as a kid I always looked forward to a visit from Uncle Donnie. The stories he told were spellbinding - he'd improvise yarns about an obnoxious mountain-sized coyote named Reynardine, whose two weaknesses were gold and mashed potatoes. He traveled the world, and it was his great joy to meet new people and perform anywhere, at any time. It was a sad day for the family when he was killed in a car accident in 1963. The Columbia album didn't really do him justice, in my opinion. I have some recordings he left behind which I think were closer to what he was all about. Peter Mork |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Don Firth Date: 02 Sep 07 - 02:57 PM Seraffyn. I remember in the early 1960s rummaging through the folk music bin at a favorite record store and spotting this record. As I recall, the cover photo showed a man, dressed like a medieval troubadour and carrying a lute, striding down a road. At first, I thought, "Is this guy some kind of nut?" Then, after thinking it over, decided, "What a great image! Modern folk singers, buskers, and such, whether they realize it or not, are following a tradition that is over a thousand years old—at least! And here's a person who is not only aware of that, but who honors it." I was in a bit of a rush at the time and didn't listen to the record. When I came back, it was gone. I always wish I had, at least, listened to it. Thanks, Peter! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Don Firth Date: 02 Sep 07 - 04:40 PM About Seraffyn: Angela's post mentions, "According to the bio on the back cover [of the record jacket], he graduated from Harvard and the Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts, and received the Folksong Award at the Int'l Eisteddford in Wales in '53." Just for kicks, I googled "Donald Mork." I didn't come up with much, but (along with this thread!) I did find some listings for a Shakespearean actor who was active during the 1950s and early 1960s. Could this have been the same person? Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Peter Mork Date: 03 Sep 07 - 01:15 AM The very same. He did indeed act, as did his wife Ania Romaine, who also toured and sang with him as Cherubim - a sort of proto-Sonny and Cher. I mainly know about his acting career the same way you do, via Google. I knew him personally as a boy, and my memories are those a kid would have. Lately I've been gathering together the recordings he left behind, as well as some film which my dad shot of the two of them performing, with sound on tape that was never properly synched, and another sound film shot to promote Treadway Inns around 1960. I've looked online for other material but there isn't much. I hope sometime to get this in the public domain in some way. Other stray facts about Seraffyn: he converted to Hinduism, was friends with the late Del Close, his lute was named Gretchen, and his cat would come when you whistled a certain jig. Thanks Don for your reply. PM |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lee Gilliand Date: 04 Sep 07 - 02:49 AM Hi T.J. So good to hear from you again. I don't usually check out this link, but decided to do so again tonight. I had been in touch with Marty until about two years ago when he just dropped off the face of the earth for some reason. Phone number got changed with no forwarding number, and since I never did have his address, I lost touch through the mail as well. As of my last contact with him, he was living with a lady, whom he had known for many years, in Cottonwood or Flagstaff AZ. That was the last place I knew he was located. Barbara was a nursing home administrator in that area, so possibly you could trace Marty by trying to locate her. I don't believe they ever got married and I can't remember her last name either. There are not too many nursing homes in the Cottonwood, or Flagstaff area, so you just might be able to contact her. Things are quite well here in Eugene. We are in the studio finishing up on our second CD called "Yesterday's Tomorrow" which should be out around the first of November. We are also touring in the Northwest quite a bit now and it is such a good life. We are in the mindst of developing a brand new web site which should be up and running in about two weeks. The site will feature four new tunes from the new CD and have a much better look to it. The CD features quite a few original selections so it should do well. Speaking of that, our first CD called "A MoondanSe Christmas" sold exceptionally well throughout the Northwest last Christmas and we will be pushing it this year again. We hope to be able to sell another 1100 plus this year if we are lucky. We will have ways to purchase either CD off our web page coming in a bit. MoondanSe site can be reached by entering WWW.MoondanSe.com or just looking up MoondanSe on your browser. My email address is lee.moondanse.trio@comcast.net in case you would like to email me. As we are travelling quite a bit, I may not be able to get back to you as soon as I would like so please use my email address to reach me. What holds for next year is that our producer will be marketing us at the MIDEM Music Festival in Canes France in January. We are looking to go International with our music as there is quite a bit of interest in Americana music over seas. A year or two over seas wouldn't upset us a bit. Good to hear from you again. Lee |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Waqidi Falicoff Date: 27 Sep 07 - 06:06 PM I grew up in the NYC area and spent some time playing and listening in the folk clubs in the early to late 1960s. I used to go and listen at the Cafe Wha, Gerdes Folk City and even played at the Bitter End as part of a folk group (we followed Woody Allen to the chant of "Bring Back Woody". The emcee was my friend Richmond Sheppard. I had the pleasure (if you could call it that) to jam with Bod Dylan before he was well known. Actually he borrowed my guitar on one occasion. I remember several wonderful folk singers/musicians that no one seems to mention here. One was Carol Hunter. I think the first open tuning I learned was from a friend (Ken Hoopes) of a friend of Carol. It was an exotic Gm tuning for the song Anathea. I also witnessed one of the greatest 5 string banjo players that no one seems to remember. Players like Eric Weisberg and Roger Sprung sat at Gerdes in amazement of this fellow who I believe came from Boston to play on the open performing night. His technique was different in that he played a series of notes like a scale but it sounded like Scruggs picking. Frankly he was the greatest banjo player I heard during that time. I seem to remember someone said he was wealthy and came in just to play the night from New England. Hopefully someone here knows who this is!! I was a little known singer song writer in the NYC in the 1960s. I published my first songs in 1964 with Southern Music Publishing who also held the material of Donovan. I wrote mostly music in those days and my lyric partner was a fellow named Jay Rosenberg. At one point Peter Paul and Mary was possibly going to record one of our songs. As I remember it the group unfortunately broke up at the time do to a problem that Peter Yarrow was going through. No one showed up for the appointed meeting at a NYC Apartment) I did perform on several occasions with little known singing groups in the NYC area (The Wafaring Strangers, Dr. John and Abelard). I remember once being cut short at a major concert when the emcee told us that Ray Boguslav had just flown in from the West Coast and would need some of our time. We stalled until the hook came out. Does anyone remeber Ray? In early 1969 I decided to quite my computer science job and try my hand as a professional guitarist/singer song writer. I was very lucky as Hamilton Camp was making a comeback and he took me on as his lead guitarist. Around the same time I also got to accompany a wonderful singer songwriter named Penny Nichols. She was Jackson Browne's girlfriend at the time and Penny and I practiced once at his apartment which I believe was in Silver Lake district of LA. Penny finally released a new album some 30+ years after the original one in the 1960s. She is known by many as a wonderful coach for singing and song writing. She is truly one of the underrated singer songwriters' of the 1960s. As a strange coincidence I went to school at SUNY at Stony Brook in the 1960s when Jackson Browne was creating his wonderful music. I used to see him in the H dorm (he did not go to school there but hang out). Later he would open for Hamilton Camp and our group (The True Brethren) in 1969 at the Golden Bear In Huntington Beach. Frankly I don't believe we ever spoke to each other, which is strange given all the near crossings we had. There were many incredible folk artists that were little known in the 1960s. Perhaps someone here remembers Norm Pederson. (I think that is the spelling of the name.) My friend Ken Hoopes was also a wonderful guitarist who introduced me to this wonderful instrument. There were also some who were very minor folk performers in the 1960s who later became famous in other fields of music. I used to jam with a fellow named Jeff Kagel at Stony Brook. Much later he became the famous Krishna Das (Indian Kirtan singer and musician). Some even became well known in opera--Jane Olian. She wrote some beautiful songs in the 1960s and is now a famous singing coach and professor of music at several of the universities in the NYC area. There are others who I knew. I will post some more when I get a chance. Waqidi Falicoff |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 27 Sep 07 - 07:55 PM I keep thinking of Dave Van Ronk's comment in his autobiog, The Mayor of MacDougal Street: "in vinyl veritas." No matter how good you might be, if you don't have a record out, nobody except folks in your immediate vicinity know you're there! I imagine there were (are) a whole host of excellent folk musicians who were kicking around in the 60s who may have had avid followings in their own communities, but who the rest of the country never heard of. Case in point, Ray Boguslav. Good singer, inventive guitarist. I swiped several good songs off his record, "Songs from a Village Garret." But I never would have heard of him if he hadn't had at least one record out. I sang all over the Pacific Northwest during that time, and I knew a lot of terrific singers who nobody outside this area seems to know anything about. No records. Since my voice is still in half-way decent shape, and since good quality home recording is now possible, along with distribution through the internet, I intend to remedy the situation for myself, at least. I'm about to start recording for a CD or two. Or three. Or. . . . Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 27 Sep 07 - 09:50 PM Hi Kids! In reference to Don Firth's comments I would like to say that I too have wondered in amazement at some of the incredible music that just was never captured. Many, fortunately, realized the importance of capturing the moment. Among them ,Jimi Hendrix, who did his best to record everything. If you study the recordings, you begin to gain insights of how his mind worked as a musician. Invaluable stuff. Another, Sammy Davis Jr., who with his passion for photography, captured his era on film. And now, here we are in the digital age, where the computer has become an all-in-one recording studio and distributor. The next time anybody who is reading this is thinking, "Well. maybe I should record," check out the book by Chris Anderson(Editor-in-Chief, WIRED magazine) called THE LONG TAIL. The book will show you why the three most dangerous jobs in the world right now might be: 1/ Bomb Disposal Officer, 2/Test Pilot, 3/Record Company Executive...(who in one bloggers quip, "are being measured right now for their coffins") The book is about the economics of the digital age, where all that we knew as "The Record Business" is undergoing it's most profound change in history. Ah yes, the mp3, no shelf space required... In a nutshell, what they are finding is that the demand for music, the niche market, is insatiable. That is to say, if you record it, somebody will buy it. Maybe not in large quantities, but your music will find an audience. The hits will always be there. But, The Long Tail of millions of digital recordings are THE source for people searching for interesting music around the world. We can only dare to imagine what the world would be like if this technology was available at the time of the pyramids. Wait a minute, maybe it WAS available, didn't like what it saw, and went back to the Mothership, and let us humans fend for ourselves. Maybe that craft was piloted by some intergalactic Folksinger, who knew "The times they are a changin' WAAAY before Bob..." :~) another bob p.s. Don't forget to buy my album on iTunes(pick a country) Rhapsody, Amazon mp3(soon), eMusic, Napster, Sony Connect, HMV, Virgin Digital, Zune, (get yer ringtones on GroupieTunes), and as soon as I finish this madness, it's back to work on getting the ole bob into WalMart, Best Buy, AOL mp3's, Billboard, Barnes and Noble, Y Music, somebody HELP me!!! This Folkslinger has gone wacky bananas!!!Or, has he??? BooYeah! Has the lightbulb gone on yet? Have you figured out I'm INTO IT? I have one last thing to say: Mac, Logic, Triton, Internet.... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 27 Sep 07 - 10:44 PM Great, great reading Bob. Thank man. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: topical tom Date: 28 Sep 07 - 11:22 AM There was a singer by the name of Texas Jim Robertson whose radio themesong was "My Saddlebag of Songs".Also, there was another radio performer by the name of Stu Davis. Does anyone remember one or the other of these men? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lesley Moore Date: 18 Oct 07 - 02:58 PM The Boston folk scene was a big one. Players at the Turks Head, Sword In the Stone and Club 47 were coffeehouses, and those who performed there eventually made records and most still perform. Tom Hall, Jaime Brockett, Rocky Rockwood and Kenny Girard, live in New Hampshire, Paul MacNeil lives in the Phillippines and comes back to California occasionally, I have a music publishing company in San Jose California, and Paul Lolax is writing music for Mel Bay, and has recordings on the Internet. Dan Gravas still plays, and Paul Geremia and Chris Smither both have wonderful instructional music videos, and I saw them in a wonderful Public Television film about playing the Blues. Chris Smither plays all over Europe - all the time. Playing music just gets better. Music is forever. Lesley PS: join an interactive music group: Sanjose_musician_connection@yahoogroups.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 18 Oct 07 - 03:15 PM Hi Lesley - Welcome to Mudcat. Become a regular member and activate PMs - Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mike Frenette Date: 23 Oct 07 - 12:42 PM I used to back up Mike Fairbanks in the mid-70s. We toured New England, had a gig in Chicago for a while, then moved our act to Canada. Last I heard (many years ago) he was living in Bangor ME. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,pj in texas Date: 29 Oct 07 - 12:54 AM just dug out old album of bob grossman recorded at The Buddhi in Oklahoma City during October 1961. I was fortunate enough to be in the audience at the time. Bob was a tremendous show. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 29 Oct 07 - 12:36 PM Bob (now Robert) Grossman made another album, a CD, a couple of years ago, which I think I posted about way up on this thread. He does killer versions of "The Surrey With the Fringe On Top" and "Brazil." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Debby Onderisin-Precius Date: 05 Nov 07 - 09:05 PM Wow...Just did a search out of no where on my dearly departed husband Josh Onderisin & you came up !! I am looking for photos of my husband for my daughter's collections. After leaving Ian, Josh came to Calgary where we met & married. We have 1 beautiful daughter, Christina who is now 24 yrs. old. Josh was performing in a duo, Copperfield Skye in Western Canada until his death in 1996. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 05 Nov 07 - 11:58 PM Hi Debby(Onderisin-Precius) : It is so very strange & surreal to meet you like this in a public forum. I was a friend of Josh's here in Montreal. This is the first time I've heard of his passing. He was a fine man. If you would like to know more, you can Google my name, or visit my myspace page. Hugs & Blessings...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,sinky Date: 06 Nov 07 - 09:22 PM i will never forget old Spoon nose Mctaggert,half man half alsatian dog who played the water pistol with his toes.His sea shantys were a joy to behold,and his one legged morris dancing was simply sublime.He once fired a tortoise out of a cannon and smiiled at a passer by.He was a true pro who spent hours talking to his teeth.A REMARKABLE MAN |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 10 Nov 07 - 11:34 PM Yes...small world...tried to visit your space but my computer kept telling me something was trying to attack it. At any rate...feel free to visit my website...Caribbean Star Promotions and Caribbean Star Dance Troupe based out of Toronto. Feel free to email if u like Bob. So nice to have another link from the past. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,missoula singer Date: 17 Nov 07 - 11:18 PM anyone out there remember a fella named don crawford. kinda a richie havens lookin guy. not young when i met him. used have a record h put out but lost it along the way. looking for lyrics to a couple of his songs. Thanks |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:23 PM You know what would be really helpful. If these names could include recordings that they made and if possible, where you could get them. Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:33 PM Don Crawford. Absolutely! I heard him in the late 1960s, singing at The Ark in Vancouver, B. C. Excellent. I only hear him that one time and often wondered where he went from there. He did what I would consider the definitive renditions of both "Old Blue" and "John Henry." Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,mike gouthro Date: 19 Nov 07 - 07:24 PM What a treat to read the fond memories of contemporaries in the folk music era. Now age 63, I liked the Kingston Trio but didn't really jump in with both feet till Dylan's Freewheelin in Montreal in the spring of 1964. A friend, Mac Grundy, knew Bruce Murdoch. Bruce was our guide into this new world before he headed to Greenwich Village for the first time. I particularly enjoy reminiscences from the 1950's and early 60's before my time. This thread illustrates the rich history in major U.S. cities in those years. But I crave some details of the Montreal scene prior to 1965 – the venues and the performers. I have Montreal memories of: The Fifth Amendment (Clarke St) closed early 1965 The Penelope (Bishop St below Café Prague) mid 1965 – mid 1966 Café Andre (Burnside?) 196? – 197? La Femme Foetal (Mountain St) mid65 – early 66 Venus De Milo Lounge (St Catherine) 195? - ? 1966 Folk Rock The Blue Lantern later renamed The Totem Pole (Stanley St) late 1965 -1968? The Montreal Folk Workshop (Park Ave Moose Hall) late 1965 – 1973 The Yellow Door (Aylmer) 1967 – present The New Penelope (Sherbrooke) 1967 – 1968? The Back Door (McTavish? & Sherbrooke?) 1969 - 1981 The Karma (Crescent and De Maisonneuve) ? The Golem (McTavish?) 1973 – 1991 Can anyone share recollections of The Seven Steps/Potpourri, The Finjan and any other Montreal folk venues that existed before 1965? Thanks |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:56 PM The Golem was was at 3460 Stanley Street; not on McTavish which was two blocks east of there. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:30 PM Two blocks east of Stanley St. was Metcalfe which turned into McTavish north of Sherbrooke on the west side of McGill campus. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 20 Nov 07 - 04:47 PM Use to hang our at the Venus Pup De Milo (Venus De Milo Lounge) but it was an Irish band called "The Cutty Sark". Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 20 Nov 07 - 04:51 PM I saw Fraser and DeBolt there in '69 or '70. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,mike gouthro Date: 20 Nov 07 - 09:05 PM Montreal Venues & Performers Thanks for the corrections and memories. I'll accumulate all responses and repost an enhanced list if enough info rolls in. Please continue to add your recollections of the venues and some of the memorable performances you took in. Let me know if you think a separate thread would be more appropriate. My memory of the Venus De Milo was in 1966 where The Stormy Clovers from Toronto played several successful engagements right on the heels of the folk rock explosion started by Dylan and the Byrds in 1965. Here is the corrected list of venues. And if anyone can provide info on The Seven Steps/Potpourri, The Finjan or other older venues – please fire away. I've contemplated plowing through online newspaper archives to get info on the pre 1965 Montreal folk scene – but my curiosity exceeds my stamina. The Seven Steps renamed The Potpourri (Stanley St) ?? - ?? The Fifth Amendment (Clarke St) ?? - early 1965 The Penelope (Bishop St below Café Prague) mid 1965 – mid 1966 Café Andre (Burnside?) 196? – 197? La Femme Foetal (Mountain St) mid65 – early 66 Venus De Milo Lounge (St Catherine) 195? - ?? 1966 Folk Rock The Blue Lantern renamed The Totem Pole (Stanley St) late 1965 -1968? The Montreal Folk Workshop (Park Ave Moose Hall) late 1965 – 1973 The Yellow Door (Aylmer) 1967 – present The New Penelope (Sherbrooke at Park) 1967 – 1968? The Back Door (McTavish at Sherbrooke) Apr1969 - 1981 The Karma (Crescent and De Maisonneuve) ? The Golem (3460 Stanley north of Sherbrooke) 1973 – 1991 |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 20 Nov 07 - 09:53 PM The Potpourri became The Seven Steps which became The Rainbow Bar and Grill (usually just called The Rainbow). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 20 Nov 07 - 11:31 PM Thanks bobad I recall the Blue Lantern opening (late 1965 I think) a few steps below sidewalk level beside an entrance to Sir George Williams, across the street from the Pam Pam. I was told at the time that the Potpourri had been upstairs from the Blue Lantern - and that it was a bookstore in the front with a performance space in the rear with a pot bellied stove. Did The Seven Steps have the same layout ie books and live music? I vaguely remember the Rainbow Bar and Grill coexisting for a time above the Blue Lantern but with no live music. My Montreal memories are fuzzy having lived in Toronto since 1979. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 21 Nov 07 - 09:41 PM I played the Rainbow with Brian Blain, Semi-Koma, and also Slim Chance in the late 70's. There was live music regularly by then, including some good jazzers like Richard Sasno, Joey Armando... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 22 Nov 07 - 03:54 PM Does anyone remember John Bassett from Richmond, Virginia? He had a very deep and rich voice, and he sang lots of African-American spirituals and gospel songs. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Nov 07 - 05:12 PM Hi Kids!: Happy Thansgiving(you must have SOMETHING to be thankful for..) I've been trying to recall the name of a small coffehouse that was in the basement of the Church that's in back of The Bay in Montreal(near The Yellow Door). Circa 1968-70... The place had it's walls painted black and it's lifespan may have been measured in weeks. I believe it was run by a French singer. Other Montreal names that just popped into my head. Stuart Wooley, Noah Zacharin, Tammy Baylis, Dennis Brown.(may have been mentioned before) There was another club in Chateauguay that a few people from the Yellow Door used to play, don't remember the name right now... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 22 Nov 07 - 05:14 PM I used to hang out with John in the '60's, played the same joints. He went back to Ohio, died there, a couple of years ago I believe. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 22 Nov 07 - 07:07 PM Hi Bob, that church venue you mentioned strikes a faint bell, is it that one with a red roof on either President Kennedy or Ontario Street's. I vaguely remember being at a "hootenanny" in a church basement in that area around 1969. It had the tables with checkered tablecloth and candles in Chianti bottle motif if I remember correctly. Unfortunately I don't recall the name of the coffee house but the church may be The Church of St.John the Evangelist. Hopefully somebody's memory will be jogged. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Nov 07 - 08:51 PM bobad: Yes, you got it. When you entered the place, the walls were painted black. The darkest venue I've ever seen. There was a small corridor that went left for about 20 feet that led to a very small room. And as I recall, there were few, if any chairs. It used to remind me of the beatnik joints/coffeehouses back in Rhode Island near Brown University. Met my first East Indian friend named "Jai" there. He had a small shop that had Sitars in the window, which he let me play. I bought my first "kirta"(Indian Shirt) there. How 60's is THAT? Don't laugh. If you are from the era, either you or your girlfriend had one. See through. My My. The days when you had to say "man" at least once or twice in each sentence. The "Hip" factor... So, it was Hendrix, Man. Not just Hendrix. Jai told me the sleeves were loose so you could roll them up for fighting. One of those paper thin jobs with so much starch in it, you could stand it up in a corner. I asked him," do you guys fight all the time?" Big smile, no answer. Saw J.Geils in one of those clubs.The other was called "The Mouthpiece". Used to watch Ken Lyon there. Both are still going... Got picked up by a girl while standing on the corner near there. Me and 2 other guys. She takes us around the back streets for about 10 minutes, and we end up in a back alley of the women's dorm. Climb a fire escape. She knocks on a door. It opens. The girl is wearing lingerie. And she has 5 friends. Haven't seen that much underwear since I peeked at the Victoria's Secret Catalogue. (Sort of like saying you never inhaled.) HA. Anyway, the one who picked us up says to Miss Lingerie, "Well, I got them for you." Apparently, the girls were in need of "companionship". One of them, was walking diagonally back and forth in high heels, wobbling & bobbling to and fro., saying, "we shouldn't be doing this, we shouldn't be doing this." We ended up just TALKING all night long, drinking beer, and listening to music. Ah, youth!... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 22 Nov 07 - 08:59 PM I remember St John The Evangelist, with its wonderful red roof. It's on President Kennedy near Place Des Arts. I too vaguely recall that church housing a one day a week coffee house for a brief period although I never attended. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:06 PM "I bought my first "kirta"(Indian Shirt) there. How 60's is THAT? Don't laugh. If you are from the era, either you or your girlfriend had one." Hell man, I still have mine, it's a bit snug on me but my wife often wears it. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:07 PM WHAT was the name of that place. I THINK it began with an "A"... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:18 PM bobad: The kirta. Crackles when you open it. About 3 feet wide. Embroidery at the neck. Not an object worthy of the Vatican Art Collection. But somehow, I could never throw mine away either. And, I bet if it underwent a lab test, some of that starch would still be in there...And, if you just LOOK at it, you begin to sing some Donovan, "Sunshine came softly, through my windoww..."(Sunshine Superman) bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 22 Nov 07 - 09:42 PM Bob, could the name of the place have been "The Ark" or am I confusing it with another venue? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 22 Nov 07 - 10:11 PM bobad: The Ark? Not sure. All I remember was that it was one of the darkest places I've been in...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:38 AM Wow. I remember The Mouthpiece form my Providence days. It was on Thayer Street, right? Had a big painting of a mouth somewhere on the entrance. Ken Lyon is name I haven't heard for 30 years. 'nother Rhode Island folkster was Jay Bolotin. Don't know where he is. There was also the Mediator coffeehouse at the Church of the Mediator. And one at the Community Church, which may have been a new name for hte Mediator. My band, the Roughstone Ramblers, played there. Great venue. Providence had a wonderful folk scne. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: George Papavgeris Date: 23 Nov 07 - 08:49 AM 667. Only did it to bet rid of the devil's number |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 23 Nov 07 - 09:32 PM The Mouthpiece. Providence, Rhode Isand.Thayer, maybe. Too many years gone by to remember. An L-shaped room. Strange to play, since one audience was in one part of the L, which couldn't be seen by the other. sometimes material would go over on one side, and you'd get a different reaction on the other. Weird. Ken Lyon would play there, with me in the front row watching. I'd only begun to play at this time, so it was like a school to me. He'd do "Stewball", "Thunderbird Lullaby Means Everybody." "House of the Rising Sun", and other classic stuff...The place was kind of a link to the Boston scene. This is when I met Roy Book Binder, Bill Staines, Bill Madison, Chris Smither, Paul Geremia, and others. I was with Roy in his apartment one night taping old records, about 8 hours worth on my reel to reel. Both he and Paul were into the real deal, like Pink Anderson, Son House, Blind Willie McTell, etc. The list is long. This led to trips to "The Sword in the Stone" in Boston. The Newport Festival was a big thing, but somehow I never went. Everything was revolving around school, learning to play, and the Folk Clubs. This was the time when I saw Tom Rush. "Panama Limited", "No Regrets", etc. My college friends included people like Ron McLarty("The Memory of Running," "Traveller," "Sex in the City", "Spencer for Hire," etc. Vietnam was hanging over our heads.(The time when Phil Ochs, Dylan, Country Joe and the Fish, Richard and Mimi Farina, Bruce Murdoch, spoke real loud to a whole lot of people...) You're taking final exams and the letters would be coming home, "Mom send me my shotgun, the gun they gave me doesn't work..." Flunking out meant in three weeks you'd be in Saigon...That Marine Sergeant. a huge black man, getting the boys ready for induction. "Now some of you come in here wearing panties and shit like that, well let me tell you sumthin', we gonna give you a test, and iffin' you don't pass, we gonna make you take it again..." All of that, of course, means nothing. (R.I.P.J.F.K.) Because we've come such a long way in 40 years...Oh fnerk, I forgot! We're STILL in some war somewhere...My mistake...(May God Bless your soul, my high school friend, Lee Menconi, shot in the back by a sniper...) Sorry 'catters. I can't forget...(stream of conciousness writing right now...) Back to music... It makes you wonder how all of that was a moment in time, where just the right blend of personalities, music, and passion all came together. And when you look at what's around you today, the Rap & Hip-Hop and all of that. I feel blessed to have be given the opportunity to have passed through that time... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 24 Nov 07 - 10:24 AM In the early 70s one of the radio stations in Providence experimented with Ken Lyon doing singing editorials--an idea that seems radical even today. Ken wrote some interesting songs for his editorails, but the gig didn't last long. I might have been thinking of the Rubicon instead of the Mouthpiece when I mentionid Thayer Street. It's been a while. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 24 Nov 07 - 10:13 PM This is one great thread. In fact the makings of a great book. I find all who have contributed have slowly put a generation of great stories in reference to music as to what it was like. Some of which I can relate to when someone mentions areas I have visited. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 24 Nov 07 - 10:55 PM Ah, good people, alas, as I'm fond of saying: "If it wasn't for time, we'd have to do everything all at once." Art |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 25 Nov 07 - 10:48 AM And on a quiet, Sunday morn, on the outskirts of winter: If you go to YouTube, and type in Paul Geremia, you can see a film called "The Rainbow Maker"...for which he did the music. The film is about Fire Departments around the world who have gone to various locations to make rainbows by shooting water into the sky... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 25 Nov 07 - 11:18 AM Hay Bob, type in Patrick Sky. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 25 Nov 07 - 12:59 PM Beer: Yes. Patrick Sky & Pete Seeger on YouTube.. Reminds me of my old Tai Chi Master friend, Mr. Lee(Yang Style). Whenever you'd ask him how he felt, he'd always answer: "Young!"... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 26 Nov 07 - 10:40 PM For a few years around about 1962, there was a circuit of sorts that included The Fifth Peg in Toronto, Le Hibou in Ottawa, and ... what was the name of the Montreal club that completed the circuit? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:49 PM Was it Le Potpourri or The Seven Steps or the Finjan? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 26 Nov 07 - 11:54 PM No, Mike. Was there a Fourth Dimension in Montreal at one time? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 27 Nov 07 - 03:28 PM Ah yes...it's probably The Fifth Amendment on Clark St - Gary Eisenkraft's first club - open from 1963 to early 1965 - up a long flight of stairs to a long narrow room on the second floor. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 27 Nov 07 - 04:58 PM Here are a couple of chaps that sang in the late 60's early 70ties around the Montreal area. Perte Van Leeuwen and Terry Sullivan |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 27 Nov 07 - 08:28 PM Thanks Mike. Gary Eisenkraft is a familiar name. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,folkmusicgirl Date: 02 Dec 07 - 01:47 AM When I was visiting UK in the 70's I bought a record album at a folk music shop by a British folk singer, DEENA WEBSTER. LP was released in the late 1960's. Have tried doing an online search for her name and she also released a few 45's in the 60's. I don't think she ever went on to release any other albums and no one seems to know what became of her. She had a very good voice and played guitar. Another great Irish folk singer by the name of ANNE BYRNE released some LPs during the 1960's and she sounded very much like Joan Baez. She seems to have entirely disappeared from the Irish music scene and even after contacting some Irish sites, no one knows anything about her. She had an incredible crystal clear soprano voice and a voice similiar to Baez but perhaps not quite as strong as Joan's voice in those days. Anne sang traditional and Irish songs and played guitar. When I was a very young teenager living in Los Angeles I knew a folk singer guy by the name of MARTY OWENS. He used to play this incredible Martin guitar and had a great voice. He was very young, about 17 or 18 years old but was singing Dylan songs and had this really beautiful voice. He played at some small coffeehouses in L.A. at that time. Last I heard (many years ago now)he was living in North Carolina somewhere but I am not in contact with him at all. Don't know what city he lives in or if he is still involved with music. He even looked like Dylan when he was 17 years old. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Duke Date: 02 Dec 07 - 10:17 AM Balladeer: Gary Eisenkraft hung out with Elise(not sure of the spelling) Weinberg in Toronto for a while. I met him there. I did not know him all that well as I was a friend of Elise's and spent a lot of time with her. Haven't heard of him in years, or Elise either for that matter. Last I heard of her she was living in LA and had changed her name to Corrie Bishop. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 02 Dec 07 - 07:08 PM Gary Eisenkraft died of a heart attack two or three years ago. He was in his late-50s. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,stuck in the 60's Date: 02 Dec 07 - 08:47 PM I just found this site. It brought back some memories. I was a waitress in the Cafe' Wha in the late 60's. Jimmy James and the Blue Flames just finished playing there. The house band was the Raves. We had Catmother, Kangaroo (John Hall w/Orleans and ND Smart w/Mountain), Night People (Bob Mason drummer), Hello People, Banchee, Cherry People (a lot of "People" groups), Ramones, gosh, so many of todays musicians played there. What a time to live in the Village. The owner of the Wha, was Manny Roth, David Lee Roth's uncle. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,stuck in the 6-'s Date: 02 Dec 07 - 09:26 PM Now that I had a chance to read so many other posts, my memories don't fit the folk category, but since searching for Cat Mother brought me to this site, I thought I'd post a comment. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 02 Dec 07 - 09:45 PM Sign up and be a member. You'll enjoy most of it and make friends. It's a great site. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 03 Dec 07 - 11:24 AM Dear Stuck in the '60's, I worked the Wha and other basket houses about the same time. If you join we can PM each other. Love to hear from you. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 03 Dec 07 - 11:48 AM Gary Eisenkraft Music pioneer, farmer, son, brother, spouse, father, friend. Born April 9, 1945, in Montreal. Died Dec. 20, 2004, in Honeydew, Calif., of heart disease, aged 59 HARRIET EISENKRAFT Globe and Mail Update March 3, 2005 at 1:52 AM EST Music pioneer, farmer, son, brother, spouse, father, friend. Born April 9, 1945, in Montreal. Died Dec. 20, 2004, in Honeydew, Calif., of heart disease, aged 59. My sweet-hearted only brother, Gary, had a complicated start to life when he contracted polio at the age of 4; what he always remembered about that time was the intense care he received from his recently divorced, single mother, Diane. In 1950, Diane married Gus, whose last name Gary adopted. When he was just 15, Gary travelled south to help in the U.S. civil rights movement. He came back home with exciting tales for his three fascinated sisters -- with a guitar in hand, and music to share: Woody Guthrie songs, gospel and blues, folk songs and anti-war protest tunes. He never went back to high school. Instead, he learned great lessons on the coffeehouse circuit, particularly in New York City. Gary was still a teenager when he wondered how he could bring all the great talent he was hearing to his hometown. And so in 1963, he started what became a series of Montreal coffeehouse-clubs -- the Fifth Amendment, the Penelope, the New Penelope -- featuring the famous and the emerging-famous from the worlds of blues, folk and rock: among them, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, James Cotton, Frank Zappa and Dave Van Ronk, who one night included Both Sides Now in his set. Gary told me: "Next month, the songwriter, Joni Mitchell, will be appearing here; I think she's going to be a great star." He was right about that with so many others, too, who played his clubs before they hit the big time: Gordon Lightfoot, Kate and Anna McGarrigle (then part of the Mountain City Four), Jesse Winchester, Ian and Sylvia. He brought some of them home for Shabbat dinners or billeted them overnight, much to the delight of me and my teenaged friends. With his elegant girlfriend, Melinda, at his side, in his granny-glasses and long hair, Gary was the epitome of cool in those days. But people who knew him now mainly recall his sense of humour and his generosity: all musicians got in free and there was usually a job and a couple of bucks for his unemployed friends. Gary's forte was never the business end, so when the music world grew more complex and commercialized, he moved on. Later, he recalled the kindness of some musicians; after he locked up the New Penelope on its final night in late 1968, he turned around to find blues great Paul Butterfield waiting to walk him home. When Gary and Melinda split up, he visited California and then Hawaii, where he learned to sail and met Susie, who became his wife and mother of his only child, Riva. Gary tried to make a go of fatherhood, near her family in Indiana, but he couldn't abide life there and headed back to northern California, asking Susie and Riva to join him (they never did). He settled in the mountains near the Lost Coast. Over the last 16 years, with his partner, Elizabeth, he homesteaded a patch of land and then bought more acreage nearby to save his beloved redwoods from the lumber corporations. Gary's passion for music transformed into one for the environment. Gary's health had started to deteriorate a few years ago, but his death still hit us hard. He wished to be buried on his land but, when state law forbade that, Elizabeth asked us to bring him back to Montreal. At his funeral, family and friends -- including some of the musicians who had played in his clubs -- honoured him: besides the traditional Hebrew prayers, my daughter played some fiddle tunes and accompanied us on guitar while we sang The Circle Game. We buried him on Mount Royal, far from his California mountain, but in the city that he had once loved and endowed with a musical legacy. Harriet is one of Gary's three sisters. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bankley Date: 03 Dec 07 - 12:13 PM Gary sure woke up Montreal. wasn't too concerned about categories. The New Penelope... from Lightfoot to Zappa! I remember a young Elvin Bisop, J. Geils, Sonny&Brownie, Lynn County, Duke Edwards and the Young Ones.. always some great talent appearing... just a shout away from The Swiss Hut.. that's a story unto itself... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GrandpaBill Date: 03 Dec 07 - 01:23 PM Well this is a cool thread! Lots of names here I remember. Bruce Murdock- didn't know he was from Montreal. His music is really hard to find, although I still have a very scratchy cassette of his 3 songs from Elektra's "Singer-Songwriter Project" (Farina's songs never made it to that LP, by the way. They are listed on the record jacket, but missing from the record! The whole Lp was 35 minutes long). I heard Bruce Murdock at The '68 Newport Festival (only one I ever made it too). I remember he did a duet with someone (forget who) on "North To Alaska", the old Johnny Horton song. Heard Jean Ritchie and the then "young and up and coming" Tim Buckley and Taj Mahal that weekend too. Len Chandler, Fred Neil, Eric Von Schmidt, Jo Mapes, Mark Spoelstra- all among my favorites, and I still listen to this stuff- prefer it to a lot of the "new" stuff out there, though some is quite good. "The Sword In The Stone" in Boston- that brings back memories. I remember seeing Jamie Brockett with his dulcimer there- really good. He had a tune or maybe even an album titled "Saint Botolph Street", if I remember correctly. I lived on St. Botolph street for a while- the cockroach capital of Boston. Bill Staines, as well. Played there myself one night, on the 'open mic' night. But not getting on stage until 12 midnight gets old fast. Some of these folk's recordings can still be heard (legally) via "Rhapsody"- they have a rather amazing selection of 60s folk recordings. No Koerner, Ray and Glover, though ;-(, but lots of Paul Clayton ;-). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 03 Dec 07 - 01:36 PM So who were you then, before you became Grandpa, Bill? Jaime Brockett lived on St Botolph Street at one time. Also, I ran hoots at the Sword from time to time - Tom Hall PS - Bruce Murdoch is also known as Peace. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GrandpaBill Date: 03 Dec 07 - 03:28 PM Tom, Well nobody, really. Just a kid with a guitar who decided to play at The Sword In The Stone on an open mic night. Would have been in the Summer of '69, probably. I remember I played a rendition of John Fahey's "Last Steam Engine Train" as my opener. Fahey was my guitar idol- I played a lot of his tunes. Can't recall what my other 2 alloted songs were. One may have been a cover of Dave Van Ronk's cover of "Ace In The Hole", which I was quite fond of at the time. I was pretty nervous. Sang too loud to compensate. I was not the hit of the evening. I'd moved to Boston from Syracuse, NY, on a whim and with a new girl friend, in the Spring of '69. For some reason, Boston seemed like "the place to be". A number of people I knew moved from Syracuse to Boston that Summer. Syracuse did not seem like "the place to be". I had a $20/week room on St. Botolph street (can't remember the exact address) during a 2 month period, when my gal and I broke up for a while. We later got back together. Happy ending. I bid the cockroaches Adieu. We moved to a great 3rd floor apartment on Harvard St. in Brookline. $140/month-that was a lot back then. Worked for the Telephone Co.- still good 'ol Ma Bell, back then. My best Boston story: A friend of mine, Danny, who was a very good harp player, also moved to Boston that summer with his girlfriend. Danny and I had played music together since high school. He comes to my place on St. Botolph one day and says: "Hey, I sat in with this guy last night." (I forget the club he mentioned) "He's a pretty good guitar player and writes his own songs. Name's Townes Van Zandt. I told him about you, and he wants to meet you and get together and play some music." My reply: "Nah, I'm not into it right now. Not playing too much right now." (I was all bummed out about breaking up with my gal. Life had lost all meaning. LOL). Pretty funny, huh? Nobody had heard of Townes Van Zandt at the time, at least I hadn't and Danny hadn't either, and we kept up pretty good with who was who on the "folk" scene. Always wondered what would have happened if I'd taken him up on it and played some tunes with Townes. ;-) Fond memories of Boston back then. Saw Fahey and Seatrain at the Catacombs. Tom Rush at The Unicorn. John Lee Hooker at The Jazz Workshop. Ken's Sandwich Shop, on Boylston or Commonwealth, I believe. The Sphinx Bookstore at Central Square. And of course The Co-Op at Harvard Square for all my folk music needs. When did you host The Sword In The Stone "Hoots"? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Josh Cohen Date: 04 Dec 07 - 11:19 PM My friend Joel Fleisher & I used to hang around The Cage. I took my first mandolin lesson from Lee Aaron around '63 as best I can remember but I began playing (well, I called it playing (-; ) in the early 60's. My dad's old Martin mandolin that was eventually stolen. Went to Union Grove where I saw Winnie Winston & The New York Ramblers win Best Band playing Don Reno's "Follow The Leader." I'll never forget it. Eric Thompson on guitar. Joel & I Saw Len Chandler at SF State Univ. about 9 years ago & know he lives in LA. I used to hang around Kenin's Guitar Workshop on 19th St. in Philly when my friend bass player Dean Levitt & I lived directly above the R & W Deli next door. About a half block from Rittenhouse Sq. Used to hang around the at the previous workshop when it was in N. Philly. (Hunting Park Ave.???) Anyone remember Donny Green? I knew Bob Tanner (Tangrea) in those days and brought him to John Herald's house in Woodstock. Those were great daze. Bob joined the John Herald Band & I was at the live recording at Max's Kansas City in NYC. I still have that vinyl. I was a Greenbriar Boys nut... I got the then new Community College of Phila. to put up money for a resurrected Greenbriar Boys concert that featured John, Eric Weissberg on Banjo and I recall Jody Stecher (I see him frequently as he lives in the Bay Area) on mandolin. Of course this was post the great band of John, Ralph Rinzler & Bob Yellen, but it was still great music. And what about "Separation Blues" singer & Van Ronk's friend Pat Sky? I believe he builds Irish pipes... Who can forget "Separation Blues?" I should mention that I see Raun MacKinnon, now Raun Burnham and her husband Jerry once every year or two. They are great folks & live in LA. Raun just put an upload of 70's tunes on CD Baby - Raun MacKinnon Archived Sessions.. Wonderful! Check it out: http://cdbaby.com/cd/rmackinnon Josh Cohen Martinez, CA |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,C. Ham Date: 05 Dec 07 - 10:58 AM Bruce Murdock- didn't know he was from Montreal. His music is really hard to find, although I still have a very scratchy cassette of his 3 songs from Elektra's "Singer-Songwriter Project" (Farina's songs never made it to that LP, by the way. They are listed on the record jacket, but missing from the record! The whole Lp was 35 minutes long). I have a copy of the LP that I bought circa 1968. Farina's songs are on it. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 05 Dec 07 - 11:36 AM One evening in Oct 1966 I paid $1.25 to see pre-Woodstock Richie Havens perform at The Blue Lantern in Montreal. Gary Eisenkraft took over the management of this club during 1966. The Blue Lantern, on Stanley Street, was downstairs from the legendary Potpourri which closed in 1962/63. Dylan played several nights at the Potpourri in the summer of 1962. Around 8:30pm the emcee announced that Richie had travel problems and wouldn't be able to make it to Montreal. Penny Lang, a local performer, agreed to fill in for Richie. 15 minutes into her first set the emcee whispered to her. She smiled and left the stage saying she would be back later after another performer played. We thought Richie had made it after all. A few minutes later Gordon Lightfoot came in the front door with two guitar cases. The emcee announced that Gordon had just come from a local radio station where he was promoting his new single Spin Spin. The host of the radio show, Paul Reed, was rumored to consume a bottle of scotch every night on air. Gordon was keen to perform for us and alluded to helping the radio host kill his bottle of scotch. In spite of the scotch, Gordon performed solo for over an hour and never missed a step. Near the end of his set, he said he wanted to try out a new song he had just written for an upcoming TV special. He apologized in advance for any possible stumbles then proceeded to do a flawless Canadian Railroad Trilogy on his 12-string Gibson. I have a feeling everyone in the coffee house that October night tuned in on Jan 1,1967 to see Lightfoot debut a full orchestral version of the Trilogy on a CBC TV show celebrating Canada's centennial. The Trilogy finally made it onto an LP in the spring of 1967. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 05 Dec 07 - 12:46 PM Great story Mike, thanks for sharing. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Josh Cohen Date: 06 Dec 07 - 08:22 PM Two quick reminisces: Richie Havens - My ex Sherry & I were on our way to Woodstock on the NY Thruway or a similar highway when we observed two guys on cool 'cycles to our right. Richie Havens & I don't know who... We motioned them over and sure enough we all stopped at the upcoming restaurant-rest stop where I spoke to Richie for about a minute. Believe I said I was an acquaintance of John Herald's and one or two other things. Very short, but after-the-fact a nice remembrance. Dylan - I've been in and out of the art business for years and meeting important, well known artists never phased me. Same for MOST musicians. Many of us were around the coffee houses and festivals we're writing about and met, saw or perhaps played with a lot of well-known performers. I used to hang around the small upstairs performers room at Manny Rubin's 2nd Fret in Philly like some of you. Many a now-famous performer played The Fret and most were accessible. Anyway, I was working back stage security at the Philly Folk Festival (having worked my way up from Parking Lot!) and Dylan came to see Bromberg perform. He and Robbie Robertson (I'm 95% sure it was him)& a few friend's were sitting & enjoying the show in the secured area for performers and press in front of the stage when the Chairman of Back Stage Security or someone of his ilk asked met to get money from Dylan's entourage, buy them food and bring it to 'em. Well, I admit that I was a bit frazzled. Got special treatment at the food tent & brought them their order, standing about two feet from Bob when one of the guys I thought was in The Band (I recognized him but couldn't place him) had to ask me for his change. I was embarrassed! Wanted to be oh so cool around Dylan. (-; A lot of us knew he was there and there was talk that he might perform but that didn't happen. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Dec 07 - 09:52 AM Alexandre Zelkine, a folksinger who sang in many languages. Anybody know whatever happened to him? I think he was Russian, then lived in France and came to Canada in the '60's. I have a couple of LP's, the most recent from the early '70's. Haven't heard of hom since then. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 07 Dec 07 - 04:43 PM Alexandre Zelkine. Yes, I remember him, but have since lost contact.. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 07 Dec 07 - 04:48 PM A google of his name shows some stuff. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 10 Dec 07 - 06:13 PM Jon Toly was my brother. He passed away in Portland, Oregon in the early '80's. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dave Hard Date: 15 Dec 07 - 08:58 PM Two folksingers I've never seen mentioned in the same breath as the 60's scene are myself and Adele Assante. We played the Tete-A-Tete Coffeehouse in Providence R.I. along with such favorites as Michael Cooney, Paul Arnoldi, Paul Jeremia, and Leonda. It was a real hoot and Adele had the voice of an angel. Unfortunately. people kept saying she was trying to sound like Baez....she naturally sounded like Joan and, I think, had a more pure voice. Still have some wobbly reel-to-reel tapes of us at the Tete and the Ballad Room in Newport...Curious if anyone remembers those days in Providence. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Ivan Ulz Date: 24 Dec 07 - 04:37 PM Don't forget Steve Mann of San Francisco, if he hasn't already been mentioned. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 30 Dec 07 - 09:41 PM Hi Kids!: "The fat jazz that a cat blows wails long after he's cut out..." - Lord Buckley "AND HE SAID, DIG INFINITY! AND THEY DUG IT.." The Nazz - Lord Buckley Happy New Year! All the best for 2008... A little early, but it's got to be tomorrow somewhere... bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Gary Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:37 AM Thanks to everyone for sharing your stories and insights. As many have said, it brings back such memories. Art Thieme and others covered Chicago scene pretty well. I didn't see Jim Post's name mentioned or the consummate side man, Randy Sabien. Last I heard and saw, Randy was living in Eau Claire, WI and still playing. Someone mentioned Alan Arkin, but did not see a reference to The Baby Sitters. The saga of Mike Bloomfield. Great guitarist. Up the thread someone mentioned his work with Electric Flag, there was Bloomfield and Cooper Super Sessions, etc. He had a brother who was as good if not a better guitarist then Mike. Don't know what happened to him. (Old Chicago family, Mike's father was an executive with Beatrice Foods) Finally, I may have some of this wrong, but here's what I remember. There was an effort to try to franchise a string of national folk clubs/coffee houses in the 60's called Your Father's Mustache. There was one out on Long Island, and others around the country. There was a group or possibly more than one by that same named that played at them. One played on the Johnny Carson Show one night. Anyway, one of the guys had a dual career as an architect and was part of the design team for the clubs and played numerous string instruments in the band, Jeff Olswang. Jeff is still teaching architecture in Milwaukee. Also still dabbling in stringed music. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,folkmusicgirl Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:22 PM Hi Dave: Just wanted to ask you if you might have any tapes of yourself and Adele playing at the coffeehouse and do you have a website I can contact you at? Thank you, Lin |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:52 PM Guest Gary. I don't know anything about a franchise but there was a "Father's Mustache" in Montreal right besides the Montreal Forum. What a great place it was. Monday night was nurses night and the ladies would get their first beer free. There were some terrific groups that played there. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:55 PM I just read back and see that you have it down as "Your Father's Mustache". Maybe this one was called that but I remember it as "Father's Mustache" |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: mike gouthro Date: 06 Jan 08 - 07:58 PM The Moustache in Montreal was a jumping spot for a few years. My recollection is that they featured Dixieland music. During the 1967 Montreal World's Fair, the theme song "Canada" was sung there nightly to raised glasses. It was one of the earlier clubs in Montreal to offer large jugs of beer. My future wife attended a few times in 1967 when she was in nursing training. One night, two strapping jocks were impressing the women with their membership on the St Louis Blues - an new NHL expansion team. My wife was not sports savvy. She quickly noticed the disappointment of one of the jocks when she asked him what instrument he played. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 06 Jan 08 - 09:42 PM Bet she trained at the MGH? I remember taking my brother in law there. He had never been in a club so I thought I'd give him a treat. He purchased the first round and after some time I was wondering why the fellows who came around to take your order was ignoring our empty pitcher. I asked my country boy hick if he had tipped the waiter and he said that he gave him a quarter but he gave it back. I promptly located the greedy fellow and apologized explaining that my buddy had no idea in the tipping procedure and ended up giving the fellow a 2 dollar bill which was way more than he should have gotten. I think the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band played there as well. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Robert Gahtan Date: 18 Jan 08 - 10:42 PM I had a regular gig at the Turk's Head and the Orleans Cafe on Charles St. in Boston. I was extremely irregular in a variety of additional cofee houses, under the name of Bob Gahtan. I am even less known than the curring folk singers on the list since I was not included! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,fiftyford Date: 19 Jan 08 - 04:33 AM Leonda was my closest friend and her ocelot was named Ouippi (I'm not sure of the exact spelling, but it was pronounced "yoo-wip-ee." When I first "met" Ouippi, I was known as "Bullwhip John," because I carried a black & white braided bullwhip over my shoulder... as an article of apparel. At Leonda's apartment, Ouippi was in his cage and when I showed her how I made my bullwhip "pop," he went bananas - growling and hissing. (He startled me and scared the crap out of me.) I helped Leonda & Billy move to the Berkshires, where they still live. There, Ouippi was allowed to run loose around the house and in the back yard. He, eventually, disapeared into the woods in their back yard and was never seen again. They have 5 kids. Their oldest, Agonna, is a singer whose voice brings back memories of Leonda's singing... though her style of music is different. Leonda still makes a rare singing appearance. She played at the Green Rooster in Worcester a couple of years back and was scheduled to play at the Club 47's 50th anniversary show, this month, (1/6/8). I was in Florida at the time and don't know how the show went. Her 1969 album, "Woman In The Sun" was recently re-released on CD and is currently available. (Google it.) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 19 Jan 08 - 06:23 AM I saw Bill Barclay as a hairdresser on an old Taggart last night. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Deljeanne Date: 21 Jan 08 - 06:23 PM Wow!!!!! A friend of mine called me today to tell me he googled my name and this whole site popped up with my name in it! Talk about walking down "memory lane"! I played folk music in Providence, RI and Newport, RI, also had one gig in Boston at the Turks Head Coffee House. Mostly played in RI. Went to all the folk festivals in Newport. Played at the Mouthpiece which by the way was not on Thayer Street but Benefit Street in Providence. Played gigs with Paul Geremia,Bill Madison, Chris Smithers, Barry Brown and Leonda!!! Was playing at the Ballad Room in Newport when a young Taj Mahal rocked the joint!!! I was billed as a Joan Baez Disciple otherwise known as a Joanie Phonie!!!! Ha! Thayer Street in Providence was such a hip place in the 60's! I was a regular performer at the Tete-A-Tete and across the street a kind, gentle man by the name of Jagdish sold Indian saris and started a business called India Imports! A brash, blowsy, red-headed woman named Justine ran the Tete. The Providence Journal just ran a three page article on Paul Geremia. Paul has remarkably stayed true to his "muse" and hasn't "sold out"!!! He has a dvd coming out on his life and playing the blues for almost 45 years.Thanks for the memories! Adele Assante |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 21 Jan 08 - 06:57 PM Thanks Adele: That cleared up a few things for me. If you see Paul Geremia. Please say hello for me, last time I saw him, he was on his third motor...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 21 Jan 08 - 08:08 PM Bob gahtan, I remember you well. You weren't performing that locally after I got to Boston. If memory serves, Eliott kenn brought me and maybe a couple others up to your pad for a great evening sharing songs. You were the consummate host, a coffee table sporting a large jug of wine, glasses, a pot of herbs and papers. Good to hear from you. fiftyford John, were you the night shift computer guy who Id see at Haskell's and who once boasted a shirt from the original Broadway production of Camelot? Adele, I'm afraid I can't place you in my memory. Perhaps that's because I was late coming to Boston. You mention Providence and some of my friends from there, Bil and Paul, but what of Pam and Ray, and Bill Brown? To help fix myself in your minds, I mad a fw forays to Boston in 66-67 with Danny Gravas, settling there myself in June of 67Played the Sword in the Stone, the Turks Head, Adam's Rib, the New World, usually accompanied by Paul Lolax. Keep the old memories coming - Tom Hall |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 22 Jan 08 - 12:07 PM Anybody remember a Gil Turner song that went "Standin' in the rain, tappin' on the window, tappin' on the window on a Christmas Day."? Gil Turner, "Old Leather Lungs" as he was known in some circles. Great guy, helped me get gigs by strong-arming club owners, notably Mike Porco. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 22 Jan 08 - 12:31 PM I was saddened to read, in yesterday's paper, of the sudden and unexpected passing of John Stewart by way of a brain aneurism. Granted, he may not quite qualify for lesser known status, but his integrity in the way he pursued his music almost guaranteed he wasn't a bigger name. He wouldn't "play ball" with the big music producers in order to gain wider fame and distribution. I remember, in the early 1960's, when founding member of the Kingston Trio, Dave Guard, decided to leave fame and fortune behind for more traditional music and teaching youngsters, which he was successfully doing in Australia when cancer took him. The Trio took on a fellow with whom I was only marginally familiar, one John Stewart, who eventually became a more familiar figure than the man he replaced. His legacy, headed by "California Bloodlines," is for others to reflect on, which I am certain they will. I had the pleasure of meeting him at a semi-private "reunion" concert with Nick Reynolds and Bob Shane some years ago in our area. Nick's family and friends were all in attendance, along with his very accomplished nephew, Joey Harris, a fine guitarist in his own right. John's contributions, as a songwriter, singer, instrumentalist and entertainer were all on display in a small auditorium which barely contained him. Bon Voyage, John. Thanks for the memories. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Carolyn R. Minke-Smith Date: 22 Jan 08 - 01:08 PM As far as little known folk singers go, my parents were some of Cleveland,Ohio's best in the 60's and 70's. They were the house group at Faraghers Back Room for quite a while.Dick,Georgie and Don Minke,who went by the name The Shawnee Three or sometimes Trio. From Faraghers, they went on to play at Gallaghers at 22nd and Euclid for over 2 years six nights a week. With many,many gigs in between,they wound up playing at Koepners Tavern in Hudson every weekend for a few years.They got to jam with such great people as Tedd Browne,Oscar Brand,the Dillingers,the Knoblick Upper 10,000,Judy Henske,Gustie Hervey,Sean Moore,Daniel & Dimitri,Bob Gibson,Jim Glover,the list is almost endless.I was glad to find this thread.Keep it a goin' on! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's Apprentice Date: 22 Jan 08 - 01:18 PM The Kossoy Sisters- Irene and Ellen, whose absolutely magical version of I'll Fly Away can be heard in the film O Brother, Where Art Thou?. However on the soundtrack CD it is performed by Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch . Permission from the recording company (I think) was withheld thus the re-recording of the song. The sisters recorded their first album, Bowling Green, in 1956 with Erik Darling. The Kossoy Sisters |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's Apprentice Date: 22 Jan 08 - 02:41 PM Someone just reminded me of the very underated Karen Dalton,who was associated with Fred Neill and Bob Dylan, among others. two brief videos of her in performance can be found on You Tube, plus an Illustrated Discography Karen Dalton on You Tube |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: eddie1 Date: 22 Jan 08 - 02:50 PM Hi Erik The song you're looking for is called "Standing In The Rain" and it's by Sydney Carter. Certainly recorded by The McCalmans amongst others. Standing In The Rain (Sydney Carter) Chorus: Standing in the rain, knocking on the window Knocking on the window on a Christmas Day There he is again, knocking on the window Knocking on the window in the same old way No use knocking on the window There is nothing we can do, sir All the beds are booked already There is nothing left for you, sir No use knocking on the window Some are lucky, some are not, sir We are Christian men and women But we're keeping what we've got, sir No we haven't got a manger No we haven't got a stable We are Christian men and women Always willing, never able Christ the Lord has gone to heaven One day he'll be coming back, sir In this house he will be welcome But we hope he won't be black, sir Wishing you a merry Christmas We will now go back to bed, sir Till you woke us with your knocking We were sleeping like the dead, sir Eddie |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 23 Jan 08 - 02:34 PM Thanx, Eddie! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Little Known Folk Artist: Don Crawford Date: 03 Feb 08 - 04:36 AM In the early 60's I was going to UBC and was into the folk-music scene somewhat. I frequented a place called "The Ark" In Vancouver, among other coffee houses. There was no booze and the college crowd was enthralled by singers of all races and places. My favourite singer was Don Crawford who had a raspy voice and played one incredible 12 string guitar. Vancouver fan's loved him but he never caught on as the hit artist I knew he could have been. I remember that he sang "Dont think twice its all right" better than anyone I have heard including Bob Dylan and Peter Paul and Mary. He had a cute rendition of a song I have heard that had the line, "There's is in a little house/ There's is in a pear tree, full of pearses...they don't have no worries or carses". I had an LP of his but it was full of songs I never heard him sing live and was disappointed in it. No hits for him on Napster. He is mentioned on this website, as a singer at the Jabberwock http://www.chickenonaunicycle.com/Jabberwock%20History.htm My email is jimwbruce@gmail.com, if you want to correspond. I would love to find out what happened to him. I know he tried acting but apparently was a colour neither very black or white, and the story was that Hollywood had difficulty placing such folks back then. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jay Date: 03 Feb 08 - 01:17 PM In the late 60s, a solo female artist by the unforgettable name of Melody Tickell used to perform around Berks. & Hants. My diary notes indicate that she was very good. Anyone know what became of her? Another one who played at the Troubador in London and in St. Ives was Roger Brookes- ring any bells? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:29 PM My kind of folk song... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7MVwET0QY&feature=related bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,folkmusicgirl Date: 06 Feb 08 - 12:30 PM To Dave Hard: I would love to hear you & Adele singing on this old tape you have. Any chance you could make me a copy and I would pay you for this of course. Lin |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,sinky Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:33 PM old Shat Maddrawers the incredible man boobed crooner,sang through an old trouts arse while flicking a dog with a spoon. Once wrote a song about a sausage,but never sang it live because of his persistant flatulence.He was born on 25 of feb,1934,and died on his 62 birthday when he broke wind at a bonfire party. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 06 Feb 08 - 07:57 PM Jesse Winchester on "The Wire"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_lLx-QnqO4 bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 06 Feb 08 - 11:08 PM Great find Bob. Do you know Jessie by any chance? Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 07 Feb 08 - 11:05 AM Beer: Yes. I know Jesse...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:52 PM I knew Iberus from the days of Cincinnati folk music back in the 70's. When he died, we lost a real character from that scene. I did not, however, know him from the old days in Chicago. AL Curry |
Subject: The Place Stanley Street Montreal 1961 From: GUEST,monsieurvic at cooptel dot qc dot ca Date: 16 Feb 08 - 12:09 PM Hello, I'm currently doing research on a 1961 Coffee House in Montreal called the Place. It was located on Stanley Street. It was ran by poets Bryan McCarthy, Milton Acorn and Joe Sage. Any information small or little related to this would be great. Thanks! Victor monsieurvic at cooptel dot qc dot ca |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 16 Feb 08 - 03:29 PM Victor: get in touch with the folks at Vehicule Press in Montreal. They could aim you at poets who might be of help in your quest. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 18 Feb 08 - 03:49 AM A year ago I posted a list of 585 names which had so far been mentioned in this thread. Repeating the effort, I've now extracted the following list of 1,319 names. Probably quite a few of them don't really belong in the list, but I think I've caught most of the ones that do. —BK 1 Lee Aaron 2 Tossi Aaron 3 Benjie Aaronoff 4 Joe Aaronson 5 Roger Abrahams 6 Ronney Abramson 7 Mike Absalom 8 Milton Acorn 9 Derroll Adams 10 Jon Adams 11 Mike Agranoff 12 Fran Aiken 13 Andy Aldrich 14 Ted Alevizos 15 Mitch Aliotta 16 Clark Allen 17 Peter Alsop 18 Ross Altman 19 Rob Ambrosino 20 Eric Andersen (Anderson?) 21 Casey Anderson 22 Chris Anderson 23 Lynn Anderson 24 Pink Anderson 25 Sam Andrew 26 Harvey Andrews 27 Alan Arkin 28 Joey Armando 29 George & Gerry Armstrong 30 Jennifer Armstrong 31 Lucie Arnaz 32 Paul Arnoldi 33 Irving Ashby 34 John Ashford 35 Sally Ashford 36 Mary Asquith 37 Adele Assante 38 Bob Atcher 39 Mike Atwood 40 Bishop Auckland 41 George Austin 42 Gene Autry 43 Hoyt Axton 44 Joan Baez 45 Bob Bain 46 Bruce Baker 47 Chuck Baker 48 Fiddlin' Slim Baker 49 Long John Baldry 50 Paula Ballan 51 Butterfield Blues Band 52 Godliness Skiffle Band 53 Hunker Hill String Band 54 Jim Kweskin Jug Band 55 John Herald Band 56 Paul Butterfield Band 57 Shaky Deal Jug Band 58 Dave Barber 59 Bill Barclay 60 Horton Barker 61 Barbara Barrow 62 Robbie Basho 63 Monster Bass 64 John Bassett 65 Paul Bassett 66 Hadley Batchelder III 67 Charlie Baum 68 Jeff Baxter 69 Mel Bay 70 Tammy Baylis 71 Paul Beaver 72 Renee Beghosian 73 Dominic Behan 74 Harry Belefonte 75 Earl Benson 76 Peter Berg 77 Roy Berkeley 78 Marcia Berman 79 Chuck Berry 80 Leon Bibb 81 Theodore Bikel 82 Anne Billings 83 Roy Book Binder 84 Anne Byrd 85 Elvin Bishop 86 Brian Blain 87 Fanny Blair 88 Arthur Blake 89 Blind Blake 90 Bill Blatty 91 Richard Blaustein 92 Laurel Bliss 93 Ralph Blizzard 94 Allan Block 95 Ken Bloom 96 Mike Bloomfield 97 David Blue 98 Gene Bluestein 99 Geoff Bodenham 100 Eric Bogle 101 Ray Boguslav 102 Buddy Bohn 103 Gordon Bok 104 Danya Bokenboim 105 Jay Bolotin 106 Petroleum Bonaparte 107 Bill Bonyun 108 James Booker 109 Brown(?) Boots 110 Dusty Road Boys 111 Greenbriar Boys 112 Tall Timber Boys 113 York County Boys 114 Grant Brader 115 Hank Bradley 116 Paul Brady 117 Oscar Brand 118 John Brent 119 Jim Brentano 120 Ron Brentano 121 True Brethren 122 Jim Brewer 123 Marshall Brickman 124 Key Bridge 125 Anne Briggs 126 Judy Bright 127 George Britton 128 Jaime Brockett 129 David Bromberg 130 Roger Brookes 131 Saul Broudie (Broudy?) 132 Barry Brown 133 Bill Brown 134 Dennis Brown 135 Fleming Brown 136 Jimmy Brown 137 Lucy Brown 138 Oscar Brown 139 Toni Brown 140 Jackson Browne 141 Oscar Browne 142 Tedd Browne 143 Ian Buchanan 144 Lord Buckley 145 Tim Buckley 146 Buckwheat 147 Bud & Travis (Edmonson) 148 Dennis Budimir 149 Valucha Buffington 150 June Bugg 151 Sandy Bull 152 Bill Bunyon 153 Don Burnham 154 Raun Burnham 155 Martha Burns 156 Howie Bursen 157 Allan Burton 158 James Burton 159 Doug Bush 160 Phil Buss 161 Anne Byrd 162 Rolf Cahn 163 Terry Callier 164 Fred Carlson 165 Dick Cameron 166 Lindsay Cameron 167 Bob (Hamilton) Camp 168 Alex Campbell 169 Glen Campbell 170 Bob Canning 171 Sean Cannon 172 Guy & Candie Carawan 173 John Carbo 174 Peter Carbone 175 Bob Carey 176 "Ti Jean" Johnnie Carignan 177 Shlomo Carlbach 178 Larry Carlton 179 Kathy & Carol 180 Sydney Carter 181 Martin Carthy 182 Al Casey 183 Mike Castle 184 Pat Chamberlain 185 Slim Chance 186 Len Chandler 187 Mike Chapman 188 Clifton Chenier 189 Dominic Chianese 190 Charley Chiarenza 191 Marilyn Child 192 Charlie Chin 193 Nicky Chinn 194 Bill Chipman 195 Chris Rawlings 196 Tai Chi Chuan 197 Bob Clark 198 William Clausen 199 John Clay 200 Paul Clayton 201 Ray Clayton 202 Ginnie Clemmons 203 Bill Clifton 204 Del Close 205 Stormy Clovers 206 Lost Coast 207 Adam Cochran 208 Bruce Cockburn 209 Ron Coden 210 David Coffin 211 Andy Cohen 212 Bobby Cohen 213 David Cohen (David Blue) 214 David Bennett Cohen 215 Herb Cohen 216 John Cohen 217 Leonard Cohen 218 Jerry Cole 219 Bud Coleman 220 Sharon Colen 221 Jimmy Collier 222 Earl Collins 223 John Collins 224 Judy Collins 225 Peter Collins 226 Bob Coltman 227 Jonathan Comins 228 Sallie Comins 229 John Compton 230 Peggy Compton 231 Rory Condon 232 Brian Cookman 233 Pat Cooksey 234 Michael Cooney 235 Al Cooper 236 Mike Cooper 237 Phil Cooper 238 Alex Corner 239 Elizabeth Cotton 240 James Cotton 241 Xavier Coudril 242 Pam Coulihan 243 Danny Counts 244 Ray Court 245 Les Cousins 246 Chris Couveau 247 Andrew Cowan 248 Deb Cowan 249 John Cowles 250 Danny Cox 251 Joanne Crabtree 252 Joe Craven 253 Don Crawford 254 Rae Creevy 255 Slim Critchlow 256 Al Cromwell 257 Addiss & Crowfut 258 Steve Culver 259 Sis Cunningham 260 AL Curry 261 Lou Curtiss 262 Marty Cutler 263 Jeff Dale 264 Karen Dalton 265 Shoshanna Damari 266 Allan Dameron 267 Alan Damron 268 Allen Damron 269 Barbara Dane 270 Charlotte Daniels 271 Erik Darling 272 Bud Dashiell 273 Brent Davey 274 One Eyed Davey 275 Diane Davidson 276 Gary Davis 277 Jeff Davis 278 Patti (Reagan) Davis 279 Stu Davis 280 Tim Dawe 281 Jim Dawson 282 Al Day 283 Jackie DeShannon 284 Tom Deacon 285 James Deans 286 Peter Debin 287 Rich Dehr 288 Sandy Denney 289 Bill Destler 290 Justin Devereaux 291 Jerry Devine 292 Hazel Dickens 293 Willie Dixon 294 Alex Dobkin 295 Bonnie Dobson 296 Craig Doerge 297 Terry Dolan 298 The Dolphins 299 Ted Donlan 300 Uncle Donnie 301 Mark Dorinson 302 Ray Dorset 303 K.C. Douglas 304 Paul Downes 305 Livia Drapkin 306 Lingo The Drifter 307 Crane Driver 308 John Drury 309 Danny Duncan 310 John Dunkerley 311 Liane Dunn 312 Monte Dunn 313 Willie Dunn 314 Josh Dunson 315 Elegant Ivory Duo 316 Mark Dvorak 317 John Dwyer 318 Richard Dyer-Bennett 319 Liz Dyer 320 Snooks Eaglin 321 John Eberhart 322 Joe & Eddie 323 Travis Edmonson 324 Duke Edwards 325 Larry Ehrlich 326 Gary Eisenkraft 327 Peter Elbling 328 Joe Elias 329 Rambling Jack Eliot 330 Eddie Ellison 331 Dave Elson 332 Tommy Emmanuel 333 Logan English 334 Joe Elias Ladino Ensemble 335 Rick Epping 336 Jerry Epstein 337 Sam Eskin 338 Phil Marcus Esser 339 Bill Evans 340 Pete Everwine 341 John Fahey 342 Billy Faier 343 Mike Fairbanks 344 Waqidi Falicoff 345 Orla Fallon 346 Beers Family 347 Carter Family 348 Mimi Farina 349 Richard Farina 350 Danny Farmer 351 Bruce Farwell 352 Bob Fass 353 John Henry Faulk 354 Luke Faust 355 Pete Feldmann 356 Julie Felix 357 Freddy Fender 358 Arcangel Fernandez 359 Old Sharky Fester 360 Janis Fink 361 Don Firth 362 John Fitzgerald 363 Blind Erik Flatpick 364 Bela Fleck 365 Joel Fleisher 366 Judy Flenniken 367 Harmonica Frank Floyd 368 John Foley 369 Arran Folk 370 Fast Folk 371 Ellen Ford 372 Glen Ford 373 Felt Forum 374 Pat Foster 375 Redd Foxx 376 Fastblind Erik Frandsen 377 Dirty Frank 378 Harmonica Frank 379 Jackson C. Frank 380 Ray Frank 381 Dave Frederickson 382 Marshal Freedland 383 Four Frenchman 384 Rick Friedman 385 Ruthann Friedman 386 Big Wally Friedricks 387 Alan Friend 388 Gordon Friesen 389 Jesse "Lone Cat" Fuller 390 Furey Brothers 391 Sean Gagnier 392 Bob Gahtan 393 Eddie Gair 394 Jerry Galuten 395 Vin Garbetts 396 Vin Garbutt 397 Peter & Isabelle Gardiner 398 Michael Garin 399 Amos Garrett 400 Pat Garvey 401 Dick Gaughan 402 Ellen Geer 403 Will Geer 404 Country Gentlemen 405 Kitty Geovese 406 George Gerdes 407 Paul Geremia 408 Fred Gerlach 409 Alice Gerrard 410 Thom Ghent 411 Bobby Gibbons 412 Denis Gibbons 413 Bob Gibson 414 Jackie Gibson 415 Lisa Gilkyson 416 Terry Gilkyson 417 Guela Gill 418 Gene Gilleskie 419 Lee Gilliand 420 Paul Gillingham 421 Allan Ginsberg 422 Kenny Girard 423 Dean Gitter 424 Dottie Gittleson 425 Tom Glaser 426 Rounded Dick Glass 427 Jim Glover 428 Lynn Gold 429 Barry Goldberg 430 Stu Goldberg 431 John Goldfarb 432 Kenny Goldstein 433 Billy Goode 434 Cynthia Gooding 435 Steve Goodman 436 James Gordon 437 Peggy Gordon 438 Ruthie Gordon 439 Louis Gossett 440 Dave Goulder 441 Martin Graebe 442 Klaus Van Graft 443 Davy Graham 444 Red Grammer 445 Baby Gramps 446 Dan Gravas 447 Arvella Gray 448 John Gray 449 Marion Gray 450 Sarah Gray 451 Donny Green 452 Mark Green 453 Peter Green 454 Dave Greenberg 455 Peter Greenberg 456 Danny Greenspoon 457 Robin Greenstein 458 John Greenway 459 Sara Grey 460 Al Grierson 461 Andy Griffith 462 Mi Gronny 463 Robert Grossman 464 Mac Grundy 465 Dave Guard 466 Roy Guest 467 Dave Guth 468 Arlo Guthrie 469 Woody Guthrie 470 Venture Gwen 471 Iberus Hacker 472 Vernon Haddock 473 Derek Hall 474 John Hall 475 Rene Hall 476 Samuel Hall 477 Sue Hall 478 Tom Hall 479 Frank Hamilton 480 John Hammond 481 Lorraine Hammond 482 Colonel Bruce Hampton 483 Clabe Hangan 484 Larry Hanks 485 Barry Hansen 486 Tim Hardin 487 Leonda Hardison 488 Rosie Hardman 489 Jack Hardy 490 Lee Haring 491 Roy Harper 492 Emmylou Harris 493 Joey Harris 494 Jacquie Harrison 495 Jack Harshaw 496 Ritchie Havens 497 Bess Hawes 498 Butch Hawes 499 Ginny Hawker 500 John Hayday 501 Skip Haynes 502 Joe Heany 503 Gordon Heath 504 Max Heilbronner 505 Freddie Hellerman 506 Jim Helms 507 Wade Hemsworth 508 Denny Henderson 509 Davey Hendricks 510 John Hendricks 511 Stewart Hendrickson 512 Al Hendrikson 513 Jimi Hendrix 514 Kevin Henry 515 Judy Henske 516 Johnny Herald & the Greenbriar Boys 517 Gustie Hervey 518 Claire Hess 519 Carolyn Hester 520 The Highwaymen 521 Bill Higley 522 Greg Hildebrand 523 Vankleek Hill 524 Joanne Hindley 525 Jeff Hindman 526 Steve Hinds 527 Sam Hinton 528 Bob Hipkens 529 George Hirsch 530 Moe Hirsch 531 Bob Hoban 532 Mitch Holder 533 Lori Holland 534 Buddy Holly 535 Ed Holstein 536 Fred Holstein 537 Tim Holt 538 Will Holt 539 Alec Hood 540 John Lee Hooker 541 Ken Hoopes 542 Doc Hopkins 543 Johnny Horton 544 Miles Horton 545 Zylphia Horton 546 Son House 547 Cisco Houston 548 John Houston 549 Sonny Houston 550 Ray Wylie Hubbard 551 Baldemar Huerta 552 John Hughes 553 Lynn Hughes 554 Blair Hull 555 Mad Michael Hunt 556 Carol Hunter 557 Rob Hunter 558 Mike Hurst 559 Mississippi John Hurt 560 The Immigrants 561 Andy Irvine 562 John Isherwood 563 Chuck Israels 564 Burl Ives 565 Harry Jackson 566 Pete Jacobs 567 Herb Jaeger 568 Joe Jaffe 569 Jimmy James 570 Joyce James 571 Karen James 572 Skip James 573 Stan James 574 Bert Jansch 575 Micheal Janusz 576 Ella Jenkins 577 Paul Jeremia 578 John Jeremiah 579 Jim & Jesse 580 Flaco Jimenez 581 Country Joe 582 Big John 583 Bullwhip John 584 Big Johns 585 Robert Johnson 586 Ted Johnson 587 Dynamite Annie Johnston 588 Bob Jones 589 David Jones 590 Ruth Jones 591 Wild Bill Jones 592 Mike Jordan 593 The Journeymen 594 John Hammond Jr 595 Bride Judy 596 Uncle Junior 597 Jeff Kagel 598 Si Kahn 599 Danny Kalb 600 Johnny Kalb 601 John Kalish 602 Dodi Kallick 603 Kathy Kallick 604 Ed Kane 605 Paul Kaplan 606 Lucy Kaplansky 607 Bob Kaufman 608 Carol Kaye 609 Eric Kaz 610 Michael Kaz 611 Larry Keane 612 Chris Kearney 613 Mike Kellen 614 Dave Kelly 615 Joanne Kelly 616 Luke Kelly 617 Elliot Kenin 618 Betsy & Seamus Kennedy 619 Norman Kennedy 620 Elliot Kennin 621 Dave Kenningham 622 Dave Kennington 623 Barney Kessel 624 Ron Kickasola 625 Coventry Kids 626 Lou Killen 627 Milan Kimlicka 628 Lisa Kindred 629 Tom Kines 630 Bill King 631 Charlie King 632 Maggie King 633 Nancy King 634 John Kirkpatrick 635 Rev. Frederick D. Kirkpatrick 636 Indian Kirtan 637 Cecilia Kirtland 638 Eartha Kitt 639 Joe Klee 640 Janet Klimoski 641 Borden Klotweiller 642 Elizabeth Knight 643 Doc Knutson 644 Tex Koenig 645 Alexis Koerner 646 Spider John Koerner 647 Leop Koktee 648 Sylvia Kolb 649 Bonnie Koloc 650 Al Kooper 651 Alex Korner 652 Barry Kornfeld 653 Kossoy Sisters (identical twins, Irene and Ellen) 654 Leo Kotke 655 Earnie Kovaks 656 Bernie Krause 657 Adam Kreiswirth 658 Leonard Krohn 659 Karen Kruse 660 Al Kuda 661 Al Kuda/Casey/Cooper 662 Tuli Kupferberg 663 Jim Kweskin 664 Peter LaFarge 665 Seth Lakeman 666 Steve Lalor 667 Dick Landberg 668 Myrna Lande 669 Penny Lang 670 Scott Lang 671 Bruce Langehorn 672 John Langstaff 673 Peter Langston 674 Willem Lankhourst 675 Gary Lapow 676 Neil LeVang 677 Terrea Lea 678 Donal Leace 679 Andy Leader 680 Janet Leader 681 Arieh Lebowitz 682 Perry Lederman 683 Bill Lee 684 Katie Lee 685 Kui Lee 686 Lorraine Lee 687 Rick & Lorraine Lee 688 Spike Lee 689 Tom Lee 690 Mac Leech 691 Perte Van Leeuwen 692 Mike Leib 693 Julius Lester 694 Perry Letterman 695 Dean Levitt 696 Jeannie Lewis 697 Jerry Lee Lewis 698 Ernie Lieberman 699 Gordon Lightfoot 700 Bob Lind 701 Dave Lindley 702 Manse Lipscomb 703 Barry Lister 704 Marie Little 705 Bill & Livia 706 Chris Lloyd 707 Gerry Lockran 708 Paul Lolax 709 Alan Lomax 710 John Lomax 711 Johnny Long 712 Professor Longhair 713 Gilles Losier 714 Jubilee Lovelies 715 Ëd Lover 716 Lyle Lovett 717 Jez Lowe 718 Mundell Lowe 719 Rex Bob Lowenstein 720 Gilles Lozier 721 Felix Lupus 722 Bob Lusk 723 Roger Luzwick 724 Mel Lyman 725 Pat Lynch 726 Ken Lyon 727 Bill Lyons 728 Haywire Mac 729 Kirk MacGeachy 730 Paul MacNeil 731 Raun MacKinnan 732 Margaret MacArthur 733 The MacCalmans 734 Ewan MacColl 735 Jimmy MacDonald 736 Spanky MacFarlane 737 Scott MacKenzie 738 Ewan MacVicar 739 Bill Madison 740 Taj Mahal 741 Molly Malarkey 742 Bob Malenky 743 Molly Malone 744 Steve Mandel 745 Steve Mann 746 Eejim Manning 747 Linda Manzer 748 Jo Mapes 749 Joseph Marais 750 Yvonne Marais 751 Bob March 752 Diana Marcovitz 753 Phil Marsh 754 Peter Marston 755 Bob Martin 756 Marty Martin 757 Sue Martin (or Robbins) 758 Vince Martin 759 Guest Mary 760 Ashton Mashers 761 Bert Mason 762 Bob Mason 763 Chuck Massey 764 Ric Masten 765 Tom Mayes 766 Judy Mayhan 767 Pete Maynard 768 Bob McCarthy 769 Jim McCarthy 770 Mary McCaslin 771 Ed McCurdy 772 John McCutcheon 773 Carolyn McDade, 774 Kate & Anna McGarrigle 775 Matt McGinn 776 Jim McGrath 777 "Round Mound of Renown" Pat McGuinn 778 Roger (Jimmy) McGuinn 779 Fran McKendree 780 Joe & Antoinette McKenna 781 Raun McKinnan 782 Will McLain 783 Murray McLaughlin 784 James McMurtry 785 Paul McNeil 786 Paul McNeill 787 Joe Meek 788 John Meeks 789 Tom Meisenheimer 790 Mike Melford 791 Lee Menconi 792 Jerry Merrick 793 Jaime Michaels 794 Kent Michaels 795 Nancy Michaels 796 Jerry Middaugh 797 Micheal Miles 798 Reggie Miles 799 Adam Miller 800 Frank Miller 801 Mickey Miller 802 Mike Miller 803 Alan Mills 804 Paul Mills 805 Don Minke 806 New Christy Minstrels 807 Marais & Miranda 808 Chad Mitchell 809 Chuck Mitchell 810 Howie Mitchell 811 Joni Mitchell 812 Chuck Mitman 813 Sue Molen 814 Maggie Molosso 815 Chris Montez 816 Little Brother Montgomery 817 Giovanni Batista Montini 818 Carlos Montoya 819 Brian Mooney 820 Christy Moore 821 Lesley Moore 822 Sean Moore 823 Sonny Moore 824 Lou Morell 825 Bruce Morganheim 826 Donald Mork 827 Peter Mork 828 Seraffyn Mörk 829 Artus Moser 830 Bill Moss 831 Mickie Most 832 Cat Mother 833 Eddie Motteau 834 Johnny Moynihan 835 Martin Mull 836 Barney Munger 837 Bruce Murdoch 838 Jerry Murray 839 Charlie Musselwhite 840 The Sorry Muthas 841 Ron & Nama 842 Fred Neil 843 Bob Nelson 844 Margaret Nelson 845 Mike Nelson 846 Pat Nelson 847 Tracy Nelson 848 Bob Newhart 849 Catmother And The Allnight Newsboys 850 Penny Nichols 851 Lea Nicholson 852 Simon Nicol 853 Jack Nissenson 854 Rab Noakes 855 Charley Noble 856 Don Normark 857 Suzie Norris 858 Laura Nyro 859 Mary O'Hara 860 Phil Ochs 861 Pierre Odier 862 Milt Okun 863 Jane Olian 864 Sweet Billy Olsen 865 Jeff Olswang 866 Ari Onasis 867 Josh Onderisin 868 Mike Orlen 869 Susan Osborne 870 Randy Otoole 871 Marty Owens 872 Jackie Pack 873 Jim Page 874 Gabby Pahinui 875 Lee Siu Pak 876 Tom Paley 877 Red Parham 878 Fess Parker 879 Roy Parker 880 Dean Parks 881 Nick Parry-Jones 882 Nick Parry 883 Len Partridge 884 Sandy Paton 885 Young Paulie 886 Tom Paxton 887 Lee Payant 888 Drew Payton 889 Don Peake 890 Ken Pearlman 891 Gregory Peck 892 Norm Pederson 893 "Crazy" George Pegram 894 Ken Penney 895 Cherry People 896 Jesus Perez 897 Brock Peters 898 Faith Petric 899 The PH Phactor 900 Bruce Utah Phillips 901 Nick Pickett 902 Robert Pierpont 903 John Pilla 904 Sandy Pinckney 905 Turkey Pluckers 906 Art Podell 907 Ray Pohlman 908 Dave "Buck" Polley 909 Stone Ponies 910 Mike Porco 911 Jolly Porter 912 Shelly Posen 913 Jim Post 914 Paul Potash 915 Phil Poth 916 Greg Prestipino 917 Paul Prestipino 918 Joanie Preston 919 Bill Priest 920 Dave Prine 921 John Prine 922 Nancy Quensé 923 Frank Quinn 924 Pete Quinn 925 Dave "Maverick Child" Rae 926 Ethel Raim 927 Chick Raines 928 Roughstone Ramblers 929 Obray Ramsey 930 Stu "Darsono" Ramsey 931 Willis Alan Ramsey 932 Jerry Rasmussen 933 Jerry Rau 934 Chris Rawlings 935 Dave "Missing Keys" Ray 936 Dave "Snaker" Ray 937 Arkansas Red 938 Paul Reed 939 Susan Reed 940 Mike Reedy 941 Mike Regenstreif 942 Jon Rennard 943 Don Reno 944 The Reprobates 945 Malvina Reynolds 946 Nick Reynolds 947 Randy Rice 948 Philadelphia Jerry Ricks 949 Almeda Riddle 950 Easy Riders 951 Jim Ringer 952 Ralph Rinzler 953 Paul Rishell 954 Edna Ritchie 955 Fiona Ritchie 956 Jean Ritchie 957 Lee Ritenour 958 Pearl River 959 Tony Rizzi 960 Margret Roadknight 961 Gil Robbins 962 Tim Robbins 963 Billy Roberts 964 Bobby Roberts 965 Brian Roberts 966 Chick Roberts 967 Howard Roberts 968 Pete Roberts 969 Robin Roberts 970 Carol Robertson 971 Texas Jim Robertson 972 Walt Robertson 973 Carol Robinson 974 Earl Robinson 975 Frank Robinson 976 Jim Roche 977 Rocky Rockwood 978 Judy Roderick 979 Jimmy Rodgers 980 Juan Rodriguez 981 Grant Rogers 982 Kenny Rogers 983 Sally Rogers 984 Ania Romaine 985 Hugh Romney 986 Dave Van Ronk 987 Jim Rooney 988 Biff Rose 989 Penny Rose 990 Tim Rose 991 Wayne Rose 992 Art Rosenbaum 993 Jay Rosenberg 994 Stuart Rosenberg 995 Nancy Rosenthal 996 Dick Rosmini 997 Bill Ross 998 Mark Ross 999 David Lee Roth 1000 Manny Roth 1001 Paul Rothchild 1002 Alan Rotman 1003 Holy Modal Rounders 1004 David Rovics 1005 Peter Rowan 1006 Van Rozay 1007 Manny Rubin 1008 Ruth Rubin 1009 Rhonda Rucker 1010 Rob Rucker 1011 Rambling Sid Rumpo 1012 Blues Run 1013 Tom Rush 1014 Susan Ruskin 1015 Mike Russo 1016 Lee Ruth 1017 Bob Ruzicka 1018 Bob Ryszkiewicz 1019 Randy Sabien 1020 Joe Sage 1021 Buffy Saint-Marie 1022 Tony & Irene Saletan 1023 Beverlie Salmon 1024 Betty Sanders 1025 Richard Sasno 1026 Micheal Saul 1027 Maggie Savage 1028 Sonja Savig 1029 Norman Schell 1030 Martha Schlamme 1031 Eric von Schmidt 1032 Rick von Schmidt 1033 Helen Schneyer 1034 Eric Schoenberg 1035 Mary Schuler 1036 Tony Schwartz 1037 Colin Scott 1038 Molly Scott 1039 Dave Sears 1040 John Sebastian 1041 Charles Seeger 1042 Mike Seeger 1043 Nicky Seeger 1044 Peggy Seeger 1045 Pete Seeger 1046 Mike Spoons Seeley 1047 Paul Seibel 1048 Brother John Sellers 1049 Mike Settle 1050 The Shades 1051 Paul Shakespeare 1052 Pete Shakespeare 1053 The Dirty Shames 1054 The Low Down Dirty Shames 1055 The Shames 1056 Bob Shane 1057 Anna Shannon 1058 Sea Shanties 1059 Anita Shear 1060 Louie Shelton 1061 Richmond Sheppard 1062 Helen Shneyer 1063 Paul Siebel 1064 Effie Siegerman 1065 Carl Sievert 1066 Marc Silber 1067 Carly Simon 1068 Paul Simon 1069 Fiona Simpson 1070 Almanac Singers 1071 Bitter End Singers 1072 Robert DeCormier Singers 1073 Pozo-Seco Singers 1074 Seco Singers 1075 Gateway Singers 1076 Goldcoast Singers 1077 Whiskey Hill Singers 1078 John Singleton 1079 Simon Sisters 1080 The Kossoy Sisters 1081 Barry Skinner 1082 Pat Sky 1083 Patrick Sky 1084 White Sky 1085 Copperfield Skye 1086 Mike Slawson 1087 Grace Slick 1088 Memphis Slim 1089 Jay Small 1090 Cedric Smith 1091 Janet Smith 1092 Joanne Hindley Smith 1093 Michael Smith 1094 Oriel Smith 1095 Osborne Smith 1096 Pete Smith 1097 Tony Smith 1098 Vic Smith 1099 Chris Smither 1100 Chris Smithers 1101 Smothers Brothers 1102 Kit Snow 1103 Paul Snow 1104 Elmer Snowden 1105 Leni Ashmore Sorensen 1106 Larry Sparks 1107 Randy Sparks 1108 Dave Spence 1109 Joseph Spence 1110 Mark Spoelstra 1111 Danny Spooner 1112 Roger Sprung 1113 Orange Squeezers 1114 Californians Ted Staak 1115 Bill Staines 1116 Pete Stampfel 1117 Peter Stampfel 1118 Jack Stanesco 1119 Dayle Stanley 1120 Doc Stanley 1121 Fred Starner 1122 Flying Stars 1123 Pemmican Stash 1124 Andy Statman 1125 John Stauber 1126 Jody Stecher 1127 Bill Steele 1128 Phil Steele 1129 Pete Stein 1130 Alice Stewart 1131 Andy Stewart 1132 Doug Stewart 1133 John Stewart 1134 Judy Stine 1135 Howard Stith 1136 Poor Howard Stith 1137 Pete Stone 1138 Rachel Stone 1139 The Stones 1140 Mel Storch 1141 Dwain Story 1142 Win Strake 1143 Billy Strange 1144 Michael Strange 1145 Wafaring Strangers 1146 Alice Stuart 1147 Steve Suffet 1148 Jennifer Sullivan 1149 Marc Sullivan 1150 Terry Sullivan 1151 Keith Sykes 1152 Hugh Syme 1153 Steve "Richmond" Talbot 1154 T.A. Talbott 1155 Gene Tambour 1156 Chaim Tannenbaum 1157 Bob Tanner 1158 Brad Tate 1159 Ray Tate 1160 Cyril Tawney 1161 James Taylor 1162 Jeremy Taylor 1163 Livingston Taylor 1164 Tommy Tedesco 1165 Sonny Terry 1166 Toots Thielemans 1167 Art Thieme 1168 Dave Thomas 1169 Ian Thomas 1170 Eric Thompson 1171 Richard Thompson 1172 Knob Lick Upper Ten Thousand 1173 The Shawnee Three 1174 Old Timey Wool Thumpers 1175 Melody Tickell 1176 Good Times 1177 John Timmons 1178 Blind Bill Todd 1179 Joan Toliver 1180 Jon Toly 1181 Two Tones 1182 Fred Torak 1183 Peter Tork 1184 John Townley 1185 Young Tradition 1186 Art Traum 1187 Artie Traum 1188 Happy Traum 1189 Mary Travers 1190 Ed Trickett 1191 Stanley Triggs 1192 Chad Mitchel Trio 1193 Moondanse Trio 1194 Kingston Trio 1195 New Bad Trio 1196 Jimmy Triplett 1197 Stanley Tripp 1198 Tony Trischka 1199 The Jug Trust 1200 Harry Tufts 1201 Gil Turner 1202 Rick Turner 1203 Wayne Tuttle 1204 Ian Tyson 1205 Ken Ulancy 1206 Ivan Ulz 1207 Jay Unger 1208 Steve Unger 1209 "Sonny" Vale 1210 Bill Vanaver 1211 Larry Vanover 1212 Al Vescovo 1213 Max Villadorata 1214 Bob Vincent 1215 Andy Vine 1216 Al Viola 1217 Albion Do Wa 1218 Woody Wachtel 1219 Stephen Wade 1220 Brian Wadey 1221 Terry Wadsworth 1222 Margaret Wagner 1223 Loudoun Wainwright 1224 Tom Waits 1225 Lance Wakely 1226 Peter Walker 1227 Andy Wallice 1228 Jerry Walter 1229 Johnny Ward 1230 Wilbur Ware 1231 Jeff Warner 1232 Jackie Washington 1233 Doc Watson 1234 Fox Watson 1235 Old Tom The Weaver 1236 Chick Webb 1237 Laura Weber 1238 Steve Weber 1239 Deena Webster 1240 Eric Weisberg 1241 Grant Weisbrot 1242 Dick Weisman 1243 John Weiss 1244 Eric Weissberg 1245 Dick Weissman 1246 Fred Weisz 1247 Gillian Welch 1248 Jenny Vincent Wells 1249 Harry & Jeannie West 1250 Hedy West 1251 Jeannie West 1252 Laura Wetzler 1253 Terry Whalen 1254 Driving Wheel 1255 Terry Whelan 1256 David Whiffen 1257 Penny Whistle 1258 Bob White 1259 Gary White 1260 Josh White 1261 Wade White 1262 Rick Whitelaw 1263 George Wien 1264 Dave Wiffen 1265 David Wiffen 1266 Major Wiley 1267 Jim Wilhelm 1268 Big Joe Williams 1269 Don Williams 1270 Lucinda Williams 1271 Pozo-Seco Singers with Don Williams 1272 Sir George Williams 1273 Vivian Williams 1274 David Williamson 1275 Colin Wilson 1276 Meridith Wilson 1277 Stan Wilson 1278 Tyler Wilson 1279 Jesse Winchester 1280 Four Winds 1281 High Winds 1282 The Four Winds 1283 John Winn 1284 Martin Winsor 1285 Winnie Winston 1286 Cal Winzey 1287 Elise Witt 1288 Larry Wolf 1289 Hally Stepherson Wood 1290 Heather Wood 1291 Crown Woods 1292 Pine Woods 1293 Stuart Wooley 1294 Brenda Wooton 1295 Nimrod Workman 1296 Arthur Wright 1297 Charles Wright 1298 Hal Wylie 1299 Zally Yanovsky 1300 Glen Yarborough 1301 Bob Yellin 1302 Gene Yellin 1303 Jerry Yester 1304 The Yetties 1305 Malka & Yoso 1306 Izzy Young 1307 Jesse Colin Young 1308 Murray Young 1309 Steve Young 1310 Oranim (Guela Gill) Zabar 1311 Bob Zaidman 1312 Townes Van Zandt 1313 Henry Zapotnik 1314 Frank Zappa 1315 Dave Zeitlin 1316 Patty Zeitlin 1317 Alexandre Zelkine 1318 Bob Zentz 1319 Judith Zweiman |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 18 Feb 08 - 12:00 PM Thanks to BK Lick for all the work. A great reference tool...bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 18 Feb 08 - 03:50 PM I guess it might help us notice some omissions -- my God, no mention of Tom Dundee? If you don't know about Tom you owe it to yourself to spend some time looking (and listening) at the Tom Dundee Memorial myspace. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:02 PM Rats! I messed up the blue clicky: Tom Dundee Memorial myspace |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 19 Feb 08 - 03:10 PM Malcolm Rockwell--played 5-string banjo Scruggs style left handed with a right handed banjo, the 5th string peg sticking out of the bottom of the neck. Bay Area guy. Did anybody mention Gamble Rogers, fingerpicker and storyteller based in Florida? Or his sometime squeeze, Liz Corrigan, who replaced Judy Henske in Dave Guard's Whiskeyhill Singers, and later worked extensively in NYC as a jungle singer? It was Liz who sang "Smile, You're on Candid Camera" for Alan Funt on the program of the same name. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 19 Feb 08 - 04:55 PM Does Liz Corrigan also go by Liz Trevor Corrigan? There was a play about Woody Guthrie (and his music) done in Michigan around 1990 that featured Liz Trevor Corrigan, who was fabulous. We --I and my newspaper--even gave her a theater award. Tom Glazer's son wrote the show. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 21 Feb 08 - 06:56 PM The Liz Corrigan I knew was a thin blonde, about 5'7", who was Liz Seneff (spelling?) when she sang with Dave Guard. And she was a jingle singer, not a jungle singer, as I mistyped earlier. I think she died before that Guthrie show, but if not, it may have been one of her last gigs. She would have been about 75 years old by now. I think she was an Actors' Equity member, so Liz Trevor Corrigan may have had to add the middle name in accordance with union rules. That is, if they were not the same person, after all. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 21 Feb 08 - 10:21 PM Different Liz Corrigan, then. The one I saw was younger. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cluin Date: 21 Feb 08 - 10:25 PM Charles Manson |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 22 Feb 08 - 09:56 AM A blast for the past! New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club Folk Music Society of New York, Inc. presents... Folkways Recording Artist Lori Holland in an intimate house concert Friday • April 4, 2008 • 8:00 PM New York City • Upper West Side Location Near Broadway & West 98th Street Seating strictly limited. Reeservations required. For reservations, location, and other information, please call John Ziv at 212-662-6575. Admission: $12 for club members. $15 for non-members. $6 for children and full-time students. $10 for seniors age 65 and over. Be there! --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Claymore Date: 22 Feb 08 - 07:23 PM Good list but I don't see Bryan Bowers of autoharp fame. He still gets out from Oregon, and will be playing here in Shepherdstown, WV in May and teaching a class at Common Ground at Westminster MD, in July. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 22 Feb 08 - 11:34 PM Actually, Brian lives in Sedro Woolley, Washington. Erik, I used to play with Malcolm in Berserkley 36 years ago. Where is he now? Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 23 Feb 08 - 04:21 PM I last Malcolm the Rock in Washington Square Park in...must've been 1978 at the latest. He'll probably turn up now that his name has been mentioned. He used to things like that, no? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,GUEST, David Jones Date: 24 Feb 08 - 04:57 PM Re. mention of Liz Corrigan by Eric Frandsen. I remember doing a promo. performance in the 1970s, of a musical version of a Bertolt Brecht play called "A Man's a Man". The venue was The Keyhole Club in New York City, and the idea was to attract investors. Liz Corrigan sang the part of "The Widow Begbick" and had some splendid songs with musical settings by the late Arnold Black, who was arranger for Judy Collins for awhile. Liz was a fine singer. Also in the cast were the late Royston Wood and Charles O'Hegarty, who were both terrific. All of our payment checks bounced but we had a great time and I did see Liz some years later in cabaret at "The Ballroom" in NYC. I know Eric went into acting and was part of the Ibsen series at the Century Center in New York and got fine reviews for his part in, I think, "John Gabriel Borkman", I also took part in that series In "Rosmesholm" and the "Master Builder", and they went over very well. Don't know where Liz is now, Charles O'Hegarty is in London. David Jones |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,sinky Date: 25 Feb 08 - 10:49 AM Al Zheimer from billingham,very often didnt turn up for the gig,and when he did he used to forget his guitar,a complete useless bastard |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 25 Feb 08 - 11:05 AM That man missed more gigs than anyone I never met. In fact, he missed so many, lots of us wondered if he really existed at all. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,shane Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:15 PM looking for a song from late 60's,early 70's about a man's rope factory burning to ground ,only being able to save 400 ft. of rope [hemp],leaves home with rope and sets sail on titanic where he turns on the captain to pot. song is very funny ,quite long, i thought it might be arlo, but can't find .please what is this song |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:27 PM "Legend of the USS Titanic" |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Bill D Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:51 PM Well, I can see I've neglected this thread because I didn't follow the more 'pop' groups much back then; but sure the list needs to mention Joanie O'Bryant who made a couple of 10" LPs for Folkways in the late 50s. I met her at Wichita Univ. in about 1963. "Joan O'Bryant was born in Wichita, Kansas in 1923. She attended Wichita University, where she graduated with of Masters of Arts in Creative Writing in 1949. After graduation she worked on plans for a folklore studies class. Soon after she was teaching folklore studies classes at the university, as well as in Pittsburg, Kansas and Gunnison, Colorado, during the summers. Joan O'Bryant was also an accomplished singer and guitar player and released two records of authentic folk music on Folkways Records in the late 1950s. O'Bryant was killed in an automobile accident near Ouray, Colorado in 1964." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 07 Mar 08 - 12:48 PM Guest, Shane--that link has the song you were askin' about. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,guest- mary Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:03 PM i'm looking for a song sang by roy book binder- something about 3 times 7 and then he ends up at 3 x 21 is 63- it's all about his age and getting older. great song i grew up with but can't for the life of me remember the name of the song. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:46 PM 3X7 is a song by Merle Travis. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stefan Wirz Date: 08 Mar 08 - 03:56 AM 3x7 (Merle Travis) is on Roy's 1977 album 'Ragtime Millionaire' on Blue Goose 2023 (when he still was Roy Bookbinder and not Book Binder). To my knowlege this album has never been released as CD, nor has he recorded that song elsewhere (see my RBB discography at http://www.wirz.de/music/bookbdsc.htm Stefan |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stefan Wirz Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:00 AM have to correct my post above: There's a CD reissue of that album on the Japanese Air Mail Recordíngs label !!! Stefan |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Colin Randall Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:02 AM That's a great annual list from B K Lick, which I saw only today on noticing this thread back near the top (perhaps it should be at the top permanently). Three things: * I love the appearance in the list of Bishop Auckland as an artist (hymns his speciality?) instead of the Co Durham town where someone from the list has played. Marie Little and Barry Skinner did for sure, and I could add more. They'd include not Noel Murphy, who sang & joked there but is too well known to qualify (though Ewan MacColl is somehow listed too) but Shaggis, a wonderful musician who used to tour with him but went on to play for Elton John; I am sure the web would fill in details but not while I'm typing! * I have mentioned this in a much shorter threat, but it was while browsing here that I had the thought of making contact with and interviewing Marie Little for Salut! Live So thanks again - it was a delight to get back in touch with her, albeit electronically.... * And if the Mudcat subscriber who confirmed that Barry Skinner is alive and well has contact with him, I would love to interview him too, even though he was never as pretty as Marie. A private message at Mudcat or an e-mail to colinrandall@hotmail.com would do the trick |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:23 PM i wrote about the roy book binder song the other day 3x7. thanks for all the help. one more question... does anyone know where i can kind the lyrics and the chords for that? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:37 PM Guest,Mary: I cannot find lyrics anywhere. Sorry. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 31 Mar 08 - 08:23 PM Penny Lang at The Green Room w/ Bill Garrett, Roma Baran, & Jason Lang... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykty22p1o6c bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:41 PM Hey Bob, The Penny Lang video is kinda weird in that the sound and the pictures are out of sync. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Lady Constance Date: 31 Mar 08 - 10:26 PM Barry Skinner - used to know him quite well. If anyone is in contact, I'm at marion2pitman@yahoo.co.uk - would be good to get in touch. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 01 Apr 08 - 12:11 PM C.Ham: That happens on YouTube quite often. Hope you got past the technical difficulties and enjoyed the MUSIC...Not much I can do about it. bob |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 01 Apr 08 - 05:55 PM Any one know where I can get a copy of Vernon Haddock's album? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:04 PM Just a point: There was life before the Sixties. Pre-dating the 60s by a fair chunk, one of the first folk singers I was aware of was Burl Ives, whom I think I first heard on the radio in the mid-1940s.. I recall a program about the history of the Erie Canal, on which Burl Ives told stories and sang songs about it. He started appearing in movies back then, "Smoky" (1946), "Green Grass of Wyoming" (1948), and "So Dear to My Heart" (also 1948) in which he played characters very much like himself. This was well before his really serious acting days in movies like "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" ("Big Daddy") and his slide into cutesy songs like "Little Bitty Tear," and "Little White Duck." And even before this, around 1940 or '41 (when I was somewhere between rug-rat and puberty), I recall hearing folk songs on a radio program called "The American School of the Air," and learned later that it was Alan Lomax who was doing the program. I also recall hearing Richard Dyer-Bennet in the late 1940s. A friend of mine had an album of his records (12" 78s). Several ballads, including "The Three Ravens." On the feminine side and more-or-less contemporary with Burl Ives and Richard Dyer-Bennet was Susan Reed. I don't recall where I first heard her, but it was probably on the radio, so I knew who she was when she manifested herself in a 1948 movie called "Glamour Girl," about a young mountain girl who sang folk songs, discovered by a New York talent scout and brought to the Big City to sing in a night club. Not a great movie by any means, but lots of good singing by Susan Reed. For some strange reason, the "folk boom," "folk revival," or "folk scare" (whatever you want to call it) seemed to just pass her by. Too bad! But then, maybe that was her choice. I've always been a bit curious about that. I was rooting around through google and discovered this: CLICKY #1. Also, two records she made way back are now available on CDs. CLICKY #2 and CLICKY #3. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:07 PM My favorite record when I was a kid was "Burl Ives Sings for Congress" |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:35 PM Don Firth ... You are VERY RIGHT! My very first "learnings" of and about folk music and folksingers were from very much alive people that I was exposed to in the 1940's. To name three; Bill Higley was a live radio singer who's repitoire was based on authentic American folksongs, largely learned from his long time friend "Haywire Mac." And then, in the Seattle area, my family used to go to the "supper clubs" to hear the likes of "Sheriff Tex and his Down Home rangers" and "B.Buck Ritchie." These guys performed live on stage long before the days of early T.V. And of course, to mention yet another, there was also Ivar Haglund, with his friend Jim Stevens, who had a Sunday morning radio show in Seattle titled "Keep Washington Green." CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Liam Date: 03 Apr 08 - 09:10 PM Thinking of the Bay Area along with the previously mentioned Don Burnham and Dynamite Annie Johnston, who could not forget Heidi Barton of Heidi's Hotel in Berkeley. Also upstairs was Rick Dougherty later of Limelighter's fame. Another pretty well known folkie was harp playerWill Scarlett who later played with Hot Tuna. It does take me back, Liam Deyerle |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lin Date: 08 Apr 08 - 02:09 AM Someone posted a message that they had a tape that the British folk duo, BRACKENWOOD made. I cannot seem to find it now. I did send a message to you but not sure if you ever received my message. Brackenwood were a duo of two guys that I used to see at Bunjies Folk Cellar in London, England in the 70's and 80's. I don't know what became of this duo or if they might still be together. If the person who posted a message mentioning that you had a recording of theirs please post again. Brackenwood were Jez & Clive (don't know their last names) but they had a weekly gig at Bunjies Folk Celler for many years. Thank you, Lin |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Atlanta Leonda Fan Date: 28 Apr 08 - 04:52 PM Here in Atlanta, we longingly remember several folk clubs from the sixties: The Bistro, The Catacombs, The Twelfth Gate. But my personal favorite was a wonderful place called The Bottom of the Barrel. We heard a lot of great performers there: David Bromberg, Odetta, Len Chandler, Jeff Espina, Pat Alger, The Ewing Street Times, Raun MacKinnon, Leonda and others. Jeff Espina was a regular favorite at the Barrel and had a lot of fans. Leonda was WONDERFUL! She had the world's greatest smile, and was a terrific blues player & singer. She played the Barrel several times, but never enough. My thanks to Fiftyford, who said that Leonda's album (Woman in the Sun) had been released on CD. I promptly googled it and ordered a couple of copies. Now I can save my old vinyl copies. Sure wish she would record some more!! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Severn Date: 28 Apr 08 - 05:22 PM Don brought up the names Reed and Ives. As far as Burl Ives and Susan Reed go, I found radio show transcript LPs intended to be used for broadcast today in a pawn shop for the "The World Of Folk Music" programs put out as a public service by The Social Security Administration with Ives as a host (later replaced by Oscar Brand) and Reed as a guest performer. I started a thread soliciting more background information for these LPs, so if you have any, please post them to the "The World Of Folk Music Radio Shows LPs" thread elsewhere on the Mudcat Forum. Thank you. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 28 Apr 08 - 05:40 PM Don Firth got onto the planet a little bit ahead of me, but I remember, during the late 1940's, hearing Burl Ives, The Weavers and Josh White, among others, on radio broadcasts. Locally, in my part of California's San Joaquin Valley, a lot of the music came from Dust Bowl transplants - John Steinbeck's "Okies" and others, primarily from the mid south and southwest. A lot of it, even though it came from singers who were "country," or "hillbilly" or "western swing" artists, had roots in folk music of the Appalachians and the rural south. People like Merle Travis were very influential at the time, writing songs which, while not purely "folk," were inspired by their forbears' real life experiences. The best known examples would be songs like "Dark as a Dungeon." The dry, often dark humor, the ironic and often poignant lyrics reflected their own unique approach to "hard times." I did not learn a lot of songs from this genre, but I certainly developed a respect for those who "lived" them, and a sense of what their lives must have been like. In the end, I guess that is what "folk music" is really all about; the process of sharing one's unique reality across generations. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers - LIZ CORRIGAN From: GUEST,evanDove Date: 01 May 08 - 06:44 AM Hi, Yes, Liz Trevor Corrigan, Liz Corrigan, Elizabeth, Liz Seneff - all the same person. She did do the Guthrie show. died in August 1993. She and I lived together for about 4 years till 1990 - remained friends and she stayed with me her last 4 months upstate for a while and her last month was as St. Vincent's Hospital , New York City. She sang till the end - as long as she had energy. I remember Rabbi Gelberman, coming into the room at the hospital once, (I worked with R. Gelberman at the New Seminary), and she perked up and said. 'let's sing' and we sang a country spiritual I had written - "You Shined Your Light Down on Me". If anyone wishes to know more about her, please feel free to contact me: evanDove@gmail.com, peace |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Joseph de Culver City Date: 01 May 08 - 11:31 AM I remember Cyrus Faryar (of The Modern Folk Quartet)here on the west coast (US). Also John McEuen (still making fine music). Barry McGuire was around a while before he joined The Christy Minstrels. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 01 May 08 - 10:23 PM Cyrus Faryar was in Dave Guard's group (Whiskeyhill Singers) with Liz Seneff (Corrigan) wasn't he? As my old bass player Danny Counts (author of "I keep My Wife in Debasement," "Diesel Dykes on Motorbikes" and other hits) said, "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it." He also said, "Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver" so I'll shut up now. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Tom Franke Date: 01 May 08 - 11:28 PM I can confirm that Danny Cox was performing at the Kansas City Vanguard coffee house as early as 1965. Amazing, talented performer who never quite made it big. I invited him to a performance at a festival in Maryland around 1975. At that time he was living part of the year on a horse farm in Mexico but still performing out of Kansas City. He could move an audience with the power of his personality, great voice (opera training in Paris, I think) and excellent guitar work. I think Danny is still playing. A recording of a song under his name is on the Ruckus Music Service. The song is "Bring Our Loved Ones Home," and it sure sounds like the same Danny Cox. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 04 May 08 - 11:11 AM Memo to BK Lick: Thanks so much for including me in your master list (#524) but please adjust your records to show what my actual name was at that time - Joanne Hindley-Smith. I wouldn't even mention it, but I wouldn't want anyone to confuse me with Myra Hindley, the British serial killer. Fyi, I'm still very much performing in the Toronto area, with my amazing partner in all things musical, Paul Mills. The handle is Joanne Crabtree nowadays. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 04 May 08 - 11:15 AM PS. I've got two other threads on the go. Titled What Else Can I Do? and Speaking of sixties' folk singers ... they could use some support. Thank you. Joanne |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marc Bromberg Date: 25 May 08 - 08:04 AM Does anyone reading this remember a woman whose original name is Nancy Rosenthal, then changed it to Nancy Michaels, then to Molly Malone? My email is mbromberg@gmail.com. I would love to contact her. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Di the retired educator Date: 09 Jun 08 - 02:47 PM I am trying to find whatever happened to Glenn Yarlborough; I went to three of his concerts in Portland, Oregon when he came to town and have 2 albums...would love to find a CD. Anyone help me? I'm hitting deadends. He was a 60's, 70's artist. Thanks! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Phil Cooper Date: 09 Jun 08 - 03:51 PM Try contacting Folk Era, they have put out some newer Glenn Yarborough recordings. I think you could get them by googling them. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Peace Date: 09 Jun 08 - 04:01 PM The News You Have Been Waiting For! Glenn Yarbrough and The Havenstock River Band. We are proud to announce a CD set that includes almost 90 of Glenn's songs not found on CD's that are for sales today for just $67.00, including shipping. To Order email us at kit123 (at) mindspring.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,David Jones, Guest. Date: 09 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM Think I remember hearing Joanne Hindley Smith singing at The Troubador and other clubs in London in the 1960s. David Jones |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: olddude Date: 09 Jun 08 - 10:17 PM Paul Langille and also Mary Smith from Flint Michigan and a group that called themselves fried chicken and watermelon amazing |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 10 Jun 08 - 11:11 AM Two names from the late 1950's and early 1960's sprang to mind yesterday. One, Pete Jacobs, appears on someone's list, above. I saw him in Fresno, CA, at the old Renaissance coffee house in about 1960 when he was doing the west coast circuit. I have often wondered what became of him. The other, Hadley Batchelder III (yes, III) was a San Diego based singer who made his way to Seattle in about 1962. Years later, I ran into him when he was dean of a local law school. If you ever saw Hadley, you would remember his stentorian vocal renderings. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Clara Listensprechen Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:58 PM THIS IS FOR SHANE, OF PAGE 1: Shane, you described a song that talks about a guy whose rope factory (in Mexico) burnt down and who wound up on the USS Titanic with 400 feet of rope (actually 497 and a half feet of rope cuz he "just carries it"). That would be The Legend of the USS Titanic made popular in 1968 by Jaime Brockett. Actually a story about prize fighter Jack Johnson getting a gig in England and "went over on the boat", and the portion you talk about is the description of the Titanic's first mate. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: voyager Date: 12 Jun 08 - 02:51 PM I just received a copy of Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers - 'Overlooker Innovators and Eccentric Visionaries of 60's Rock by Richie Unterberger Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers Chapters on Tim Buckley, Fred Neil, Mimi & Richard Farina and a few other Folk-Rock legends. Lots of name-dropping and related performers. Cheers voyager |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,ltl- Atlanta - Bistro and Bottom of the Bar Date: 30 Jun 08 - 02:08 AM The Bistro and the Bottom of the Barrel were two clubs (aka 'listening rooms') in Atlanta during the late 60's and early 70's you could go to hear great music. Among the known names were Kingston Trio, Chad Mitchell, Fred Neil, Gabe Kaplan (comedian - Welcome Back Kotter), Carolyn Hester, Towndes Van Zant and John Hartford at the Bistro; Buffy Saint Marie, Odetta, Nina Simone, Len Chandler , Jeff Espina at the Barrel. Lesser known but some of my favorites - were David Buskin; Jim Dawson (of Good Earth with Bill Swafford who became Oliver); John D.Loudermilk (wrote Tobacco Road); Manchild (from Louisiana - Sam Broussard was a member); Ron Kickasola (who at the time was with Don, Sharon, and Barry Dunaway; and most of all the local favorite - Silverman. Silverman was def. one of those groups that should have 'made it'. Ron Norris was an incredible singer, writer and guitarist, Deborah McColl sang with a voice like an angel, and Karl Cusio played flute - as well being a funny, funny man. It was a sad day for Atlanta when they disbanded. Deborah toured with Jimmy Buffet for a time. I heard that she had recently been singing again in California, after many years hiatus during her career as a psychologist, but don't know anything else about ROn or Karl. The first time I ever heard Ron, he was playing with "The Hand Band", at the Barrel. Another member was Pat Alger - in the years since, Pat has written a number of top country hits, including performers like Garth Brooks. The Bistro held larger crowds, and there were many nights that the line stretched down the sidewalk as people waited to get into a show. It was a converted house, owned by Tom and Sandy Hayward. They were equal partners in running the club, and equal in their ability to make anyone who came thru the door feel like part of their family. They gave performers a place to stay, invited them into their homes, fed them,(Sandy was a gourmet cook), helped them meet other people and network. Tom built the club's sound system himself, and continually worked to improve it's quality as the technology expanded. He managed booking the entertainment, and always had a good ear for new talent. Scouts from record labels like Columbia frequented the Bistro, knowing the quality of entertainment, and brought their up and coming acts there to be exposed to a discriminating audience. Sandy took care of the customers - she knew the names of all the regulars, and what they liked to eat and drink. Beer and pizza were served, but woe be unto the dummy that talked during a performance - Sandy was quick to tell them to be quiet in no uncertain terms. It was a wonderful time to hear live music in a small venue in Atlanta. The performers were top notch, the listeners were appreciative and respectful, and the club owners were fervent in their desire to showcase the best music available. The Barrel was quirkier, and much more like an old style NY style coffeehouse - with beer. It was located in the bottom of a row of old townhouses, and was damp and cold in the winter;, hot and stuffy as blazes in the summer. In the summer that cold beer was a necessity to deal with the heat in a small crowded room! Neil Estes and ? ?Cohen? were the owners. They loved true folk music passionately, and treated their customers well. Because the Barrel was a smaller venue, and you sat just a few feet from the singers. This made for an incredible sense of involvement with what was going on on stage. It felt like you were sitting in your living room, and you were blown away by their musicianship. I can still see the half smirk on Jeff Espina's face as he sang "Tennessee Stud", and Len Chandler's eyes blazing with the intensity of his message. Both clubs provided an intimacy and a give and take between performer and audience that will never be experienced in a large concert hall. I am glad that I was able to have that time in my life. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,dan cucich Date: 05 Jul 08 - 03:58 AM I remember Jess Espina well. He was the greatest mimic I have ever seen. He could credibly pull off songs from all sorts of diverse idoms. Buegrass, traditional folk, latin songs (of course) as well as delta blues, etc. He played a good blues harp, cross blowing and bending notes, with the best. he mimicked Bob Dylan like no other, and was a natural musician. I rememebr He played a clarinet one night at party over on lafayette way, in at the apartment of a guy named Marty who had a Vincent motorcycle. I first met Jeff through Jeannine and Mike Briles at a party at artist Stefan Thomas's house, that night he introduced me to the open c tuning, which is still onbe of the most effective open tunings there is. He had just retruned from Minnesita where he had spent some time with John Koerner, one of his idols, who also played at the Barrel. Jeff and I along with Alex Salowich, Ellen McIlwaine, Eleanor (Walden) Hoffman, Ernie Marrs, Bud Foote, Daniel Smith, Buddy Moss, Deeanne Wiggins, Kay Cothrin, Pat Sky, Chip Baker, Brooksie Hunnicutt and many others spent countless nites picking and singin to the wee hours of the morning. I'll never forget those days on the Peacthree strip from 14th to tenth where anything and everything thing went down. Funny thing, I dont rememeber Jeff owning a guitar in Atlanta- he always seemed to borrow one when he played at the barrel or Rucilios. He definitely broke in my my old Gibson S-J... last I heard Jeff was living in the Tampa area where he grew up and working on a shrimp boat. Sadly, I hear his wife, Dickie, the mother of his children passed away just a couple of years ago. Jeff was not the settling down type, and was totaly wild. I could go on and on about some of the stuff we got into... Anybody remember Sandy Rainey, who was a figure model at the Atlanta College of Art with Jeff? She was one wild woman.. Oh yeah, Barbara Carnes passed away-one heck of a folk singer she was... Dan Cucich |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 Jul 08 - 07:11 AM guest Jay - February tis year! Just seen ya! I knew Roger Brooks. PM me about him. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:46 AM Howdy; Anyone ever heard of Sam Cancilla also known as CC Ryder great folk singer. Was also half of a duet known as the talismen? Terrence1 |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Peter Neff Date: 08 Aug 08 - 10:34 AM Fun nostalgic site. Yes I saw Sam Cancilla when he was in The Talismen. It was at a hotel lounge on Fort Lauderdale beach. His partner was none other than Michael Smith who wrote 'The Dutchman' and many, many other great songs. Just visited with Mike this past weekend in Chicago where he lives and thrives in music and theater. I asked him about a song they did which I thought Mike had written. A line in the song which pariodied 'Dixie'. It went: 'Way down on the old plantation, we don't speak of integration, look away, look away, look away, Dixieland.' Since Mike is a terrfic writer of satire and comedic songs I thought he had written it. He said he didn't and couldn't rememeber where they'd found that one. We also talked about our old stomping grounds...South Florida coffeehouses: Catacombs, The Pegasus and most notably The Flick. Mike spoke glowingly of Fred Neil, Jeff Espina and Ron Kickasola who I will be seeing this next weekend. Ron lives very happily in North Carolina by the way. The Flick was a wonderful coffehouse where one could see four acts a night in the early years.. performers like the ones mentioned above and Vince Martin, Steve Goodman, Liz Seneff(Corrigan), Gamble Rodgers, Joni Mitchell, Chuck Mitchell, Gabe Kaplan, Estrella Berosini, John Vandiver, The Ewing Street Times, Dion, Jimmy Buffett, Jerry Jeff Walker and many others that at the moment I can't recall. If anyone is interested, there is a site devoted to the South Florida Folk Music Scene called 'Everybodys Talkin' which you can find at fredneil.com of just click the link below: http://forums.delphiforums.com/thedolphins Sorry I went on so long. Great site. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 08 Aug 08 - 12:15 PM Deckman or Don Firth, whoever gets there first: I remember Ivar Haglund mainly for the giant bowls of steamed clams I used to enjoy in his downtown Seattle restaurant, around 1961 or '62, during the fair. I know he had another, better known location on the waterfront. Was he not the author of the song, "Acres of Clams" as well? If you know, which came first, the restaurant or the song? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: curmudgeon Date: 08 Aug 08 - 12:23 PM Subject: RE: Acres of Clams-WA song-please clarify From: Bruce O. Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:35 PM The lyrics are in DT as "Old Settler's Song". My understanding was as Sandy's above, and we both remember it was the theme song for a radio program of folk songs sung by Ivar Haglund in Seattle on Sunday mornings in the 1950's. The song was written by Francis Henry, a judge in Washington Territory, some time before it became a state, but I don't know exactly when. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,"Boogie" Bruce Date: 15 Aug 08 - 09:43 PM I knew Steve Mann quite well. He regularly performed at L.A.'s The Ashgrove and also backed up numerous famous people on recordings. He was off the circuit for many years but now lives in Oakland. Go to www.stevemanngtr.com for information about recent releases and updates about Steve himself. "Alive and Pickin'" includes previously unreleased tracks (including three where he accompanies Janice Joplin)and some from old albums. They just re-released "Live at The Ashgrove" on CD from Bella Roma Records in Berkeley. Check 'em out. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 16 Aug 08 - 12:45 AM Regarding "Acres of Clams" ... "The Old Settler", Bruce O is quite correct. If you check in on The Pacific Northwest Folklore Society website, you'll hear me singing the version that Ivar taught me. Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: TalkingBird Date: 16 Aug 08 - 10:47 AM Randy Burns was a rising star in the 60's, playing regularly at the Gaslight in NY city and releasing albums in 1965, 67, and 69. Hearing his first album, "Of Love and War," in a college dorm room in 1967 is what got me interested in folk music. He disappeared from the radar for a long time, but recently started performing again, sounding better than ever. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Marcia Stehr Date: 20 Aug 08 - 02:20 PM Reading this has been an amazing experience. My family moved within walking distance of Washington Square in 1950. My love of music had begun earlier in my life but those Sundays and then the Hoots and concerts became very important. Does anybody remember Danny Z. (Daniel Zemachson)? He was a fiddle player (studied classical violin) in NY in the late '50s-early '60s. He used to play at Alan Block's, the Square and gatherings at people's apts. and lofts. He was a friend of Arnie Feldman. How about Geno Foreman? Guitar and banjo player, singer, song writer, artist, and writer. He recorded a 77 in 1958 at Dobell's with Jimmie Mc Gregor and Shirley Bland. Geno played guitar on When You Hear them Cuckcoos Hollerin' on Joan Baez's Fifth Album. He was instrumental in making it possible for Hamza el Din to come to the US and make a record for Vanguard. He was my husband and the father of our daughter, Haydee Foreman. There is a mudcat thread about Geno: Did you know Gino Foreman? Sometimes people spelled his name with an "i". Interesting stories about Geno. Also, you can hear him playing and singing on the movie "Dope". A trailer with him singing can be found at: www.dopethemovie.net. Here in Santa Fe I reconnected with muscians I knew in NY and Cambridge. Rolf Cahn became a good friend for many years. He would call me on the phone once a week and we would talk for at least an hour. I treasure those conversations. He called me just a week before he died. I did not know that he was ill but looking back at that last conversation I realize he was saying goodbye. RIP Rolf. Erik Darling became another friend here. I first met Erik in the early '50s when I was a student at Elizabeth Irwin High School. He had begun painting while living here in Santa Fe and came by my studio to see my work. Later, John Cohen told me he had seen Erik's paintings and that they reminded him of mine. RIP Erik. I have many memories of those years, Washington Sq., all of the cafes, music venues in NY and later in Cambridge. I worked at Gerde's Folk City in the early '60s and met all of the musicians who played there during those years. I was so fortunate to be in that place at that time. Peace, Marcia |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Vicar Date: 20 Aug 08 - 05:55 PM Just noticed someone asked about the whereabouts of Len Chandler. I remember him well and saw him in LA. We were working a poliical phone bank and recognizedeach other. No folowup, but he's out here someplace. Joe Frazier CMT |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jimo Date: 21 Aug 08 - 02:42 PM The Braid was a group of singer/songwriters that played the Village Vanguard, Gerdes, Cafe Wha, Town Hall, Fat Black Pussycat, Carnegie Recital Hall, Kenny's Castaways (it's original uptown location),the Metro Club and a little joint called Steak n' Stein on th ecprner of 4th and Thompson, I think. Plus, any club that hire a group that played acoustic originals. We also toured the country as part of College Coffee House Circuit. We lasted from 1968 to 1977, recorded for ABC/Dunhill but that was about it. The Braid ultimately morphed into a rock group named "Cocky", played a few shows and then disbanded. Our songs were written individually and a collectively and performed with three part harmony, two Martins and electric bass. We played on the same bill with some of the greats of our time....Tim Hardin, Ry Cooder, David Bromberg, Larry Coryell, David Allen Coe, Harry Chapin to name a few....Thanks for the chance to place the Braid on the list. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jimo Date: 21 Aug 08 - 04:02 PM Hi Marcia, In an earlier posting you mentioned Erik Darling...He was a master guiatarist and teacher, as well. I was a student of his when he lived on the upper west side. He taught me how to fingerpick. I still use the patterns he showed me. He was a gentleman and one of the greats. James |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,David Adkins Date: 21 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM I was working for an insurance company in the 60's and couldn't wait to come home, take off that blasted tie and coat and hang out with my friends at the Bistro in mid-town Atlanta over a couple of PBR's. While Ray Whitley was my favorite, Jeff Espina, Talisman and the Wayfarers were fantastic talents. I recently helped start a site to commemorate the club if you want to remember some of the folks that played there. It is www.bistroatlanta.com Check it out. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Firesidesingers Date: 03 Oct 08 - 04:15 AM re: Cyrus Faryar....Yes, he was in The Whiskeyhill Singers with Dave Guard, Buck Wheat and Judy Henske when they made their one album on Capitol (and what a wonderfully strange album it is). Liz Seneff then replaced Judy. Cyrus had a couple of solo albums (which have been reissued by Collectors' Choice), and played with the Modern Folk Quartet/Modern Folk Quintet/MFQ for decades. They may still be together, as they were big in Japan and Hawaii. Bruce G. Kirkman brucekirkman@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 03 Oct 08 - 07:56 PM Ernie Lieberman (aka Ernie Sheldon) Betty Sanders Leon Bibb Milt Okun Woody Wachtel Kossoy Sisters Modern Folk Quartet Alan Mills (known well in Canada) Brother John Sellers Lynn Gold Molly Scott Dick Rosmini Fred Gerlach Pat Foster Billy Faier Micheal Saul Art Greenbaum Derroll Adams Joan Sprung Marcia Berman Dave Zeitlin Erik Darling Tommy Geraci Ethel Raim Sam Hinton (well-known in San Diego but little mentioned which is a shame) Hally Wood Verne Partlow |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Elliott Hill Date: 19 Oct 08 - 04:04 AM When I was in the Navy in San Diego, Ken Connors and I would play the local coffee houses and pick up spare change by playing along the Mission Beach seawall. Ken played a mean mandolin and I played guitar, banjo and autoharp. We would go to the "Blue Guitar" on Thursday nights for their gathering. Mason Williams was in the Navy then, and he would play guitar and banjo, and a cute girl would play dulcimer. great music at the Blue Guitar. There was a coffee house in Mission Beach called "The End", very typical but nice for the Mission Beach locals (I had an apt. in Mission Beach). If anyone knows if Ken Connors (Dan The Grub) is still around, I would like to contact him. I played a lot after the Navy, Sacramento, Berkeley, Santa Rosa and San Francisco to some success but never anything big time. Ran around with Mark Spolestra for some time and learned a lot from him. Sadly, he passed away about two years ago. A stroke in 1999 has me laid up and not playing any more (lost my left side control), I listen a lot but I sure miss playing my instruments. My son has picked them up and plays very well. He has a Martin Woody Guthrie 00018 (1 of 200 made), |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers San Francisco From: GUEST,Bill Collins Date: 26 Oct 08 - 03:03 PM Billy Roberts wrote Hey Joe, Not Bobby Roberts. Rolph Kahn (Cahn) 12 string guitarist from Berkeley CA. LIsa Kindred. Terry Wadsworth. John Swingle Marty Balin (Buchwald) Eddie Ellison Pat Paulsen Folk-comedian Stu Goldberg David Freiberg Steve Martin played Coffee houses on Grant Ave. SF |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 26 Oct 08 - 03:38 PM Yeah, I knew Billy Roberts. He was hanging out in the Seattle area during the Seattle World's Fair in 1962. He sang a bit at the "92 Yesler" coffeehouse, as I recall. I met Rolf Cahn in Berkeley in 1959. Had some good song-swapping sessions with him. 12-string guitar? I don't know about that. He wasn't playing one when I knew him. He played a steel-string (6-string) guitar, and he also played a very fine Rodrigues flamenco guitar. Terry Wadsworth, I knew quite well. I think he was originally from Tacoma, Washington, but he lived in Seattle for several years in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Sang in coffeehouses quite a bit. Randy Sparks drifted through town looking to recruit a new singer or two for the New Christy Minstrels, heard Terry, and hired him. He sang with the NCM for about a year, then had a disagreement with Sparks and quit. Came back to Seattle for a visit, then moved on. I haven't seen him or heard anything about him since. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Carolyn Date: 27 Oct 08 - 10:32 AM This is to Peace (Bruce). Doing the nostalgia thing and found this thread. You might remember me, was a friend of Nancy's in the late 60's, hung out at your place. Remember you telling us of this great new song and pulling out your guitar and singing "in my mind I'm going to Carolina...." I was Carolyn Edwards, now married and living in Ohio. Just found a couple of other old friends through the internet. How is Nancy doing? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Blossomberry Boy Date: 29 Oct 08 - 02:06 PM Ric Von Schmidt had a farm in Henniker, NH in the 70s. I found out about that after Ric had lost the ability due to talk due to his cancer operation. (I did ask Jim Rooney about the farm, but he didn't remember -- thought it might have been for Ric's daughter, bought with money from the Dylan/Baez posters on which he was receiving royalties.) Does anyone know about this farm? Is it still in the family? Can anyone fill me in on the circumstances under which it was bought? Peace, B.B. greasytruck@aol.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 30 Oct 08 - 08:57 AM Bill Collins: Yes, Billy Roberts for Hey Joe. Not Bobby Roberts. Although I swear the memory neurons remember Tex referring to him as "Bobby." Ah the 60's... Or as Tex used to say, :if you can remember the 60's, you weren't really there..." Wondering if, during your lifetime, somebody got you confused with "Phil" Collins? Nah, couldn't happen...BR |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Molly Meisenheimer Date: 30 Oct 08 - 02:17 PM WOW! I am Tom Meisenheimer's daughter and was looking around the internet for obscure folk singer info and found this thread (gotta love technology!). To respond to "Fastblind" (though that post was a while ago) my dad is still playing music, though in New Haven, MO. Herb is still in Yountville, doing ok, just got a call from him today as a matter of fact (hence the search for my childhood on the internet). It was always a treat to have my dad, Herb, Mick (Milton) and lord knows who else in our living room, teaching us the music, playing REAL music. And I even remember being about 4 years old and dancing impromptu Irish jigs at the Folk Music Club in San Francisco. I was lucky enough to be able to bring my daughter (when she was about 7) up to Mike Heintz's property and listen to Herb, Mike and my dad throw down a great old session of good music. Thanks for having this thread, it was a nice bit of nostalgia. --Molly |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 31 Oct 08 - 01:06 AM Joseph de Culver City, Hi! From me, originally from a stones throw from Culver...up over the hill, near the big 'L' Two that come to mind..I mixed sound for Barry McGuire, in Santa Fe,N.M.,in the late eighties. By that time he had stopped his drinking, and he was just great, and spiritually hot! He introduced 'Eve of Destruction' as the first 'protest' song of the sixties..and it was still true to tat day! He personally sought me out, after the show, and thanked me for the best mixing he had performing live! Also, there are some works from Judy Collins, album, 'Fires of Eden'..one in particular is called 'The Blizzard', and in my opinion, the best Judy ever wrote, and performed. It took her three years to write it!..All those who live in Colorado, should definitely hear it!! I vote it become the state song! Truly, her masterpiece!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Wkoq0bCGU Met and knew a few more, but I thought those may be of interest! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Wondering if, by chance, you are the left-ha Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:18 PM David Jones? R. David Jones, of 000-41L fame? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Jeri Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:30 PM I think GUEST, David Jones who posted on June 9th of this year is the reason R. David went by the 'R'. This one (R-less) originated in England. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Deckman Date: 12 Nov 08 - 11:11 PM Don Firth ... After several years of searching, I heard from the brother of the late Terry Wadsworth. He died hard in California some years ago. The tone of his brother's comments tell me that he was much revered. Bob Nelson |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Nov 08 - 01:24 PM When people hear the name Randy Sparks, the first thing that comes to mind is The New Christy Minstrels. When I first met him, around 1959, he was doing a solo act as a folk singer/balladeer. Another from my old area, Fresno, CA, was the late George Cromarty who, along with his partner, Ed Rush, performed as The Goldcoast Singers. They were the original composers of "Plastic Jesus." I believe they only made one album. Two local Fresno State college professors, Peter Everwine and the late Gene Bluestein, were fine performers and noted folk historians. Gene's son, Emo, still performs in the area. Peter has become better known for his award-winning poetry. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Nov 08 - 01:42 PM Molly Meisenheimer, I knew your dad back in the 1960s in Chicago. Fond memories of his banjo picking reside here with me---and of the small folk club on Sedgwick Street called the "Erectheon" after it's original name was deemed too stiff -- if ya know what I mean!? To all who were there then: Where are Roger Luzwick and Mike Slosson from those Erectheon days now? Anyone know?? And Bobby Brundage---daughter of Slim Brundage who ran the College Of Complexes beat forum and hangout on North State St. in Chicago -- early '60s? Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 15 Nov 08 - 12:59 AM Hey Molly: Say hello to your dad for me...glad he's doing well and still at it making music. - |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:12 AM Yes Guest from Sanity. I was interested. Much more than in the political stuff! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 08 - 02:18 PM looking for good duet Rob And Marion Wilson sang in varios folk clubs in the Andover area, Rob is no longer with us but what a miss he is though Marion is still active in the folk scene from Bob Wilson Dad in law |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 17 Nov 08 - 11:46 AM I notice that Bill Collins, above, mentions Pat Paulsen in a list of names. In the "small world" category, I once marketed wine for Pat and for Dick Smothers, neither of whom would lay claim to being folk musicians without sporting a big grin. I visited Pat at his winery in Asti, Sonoma County, a few years before his death. His guest house living room was a repository of 1968 campaign memorabilia left over from his "Vote or Get Off the Pot" effort. I still have a mailing tube full of it. His family recently rekindled his old Presidential campaign on line. He was running on the "Posthumous Ticket." He once remarked to me that politicians should follow the first point of the Hippocratic Oath: "First, do no harm." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dalia Date: 17 Nov 08 - 04:49 PM Vince Martin and Fred Neil sang together in Miami and released at least one record. They coud spend 20 minutes trying to tune those two 12 strings. Ron Kickasola was around then, and I bought his guitar with my first check from my first checking account! Still have it, too. He told me he bought it from Joni Mitchell. No way to verify it, but it's a great thought - and story. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 17 Nov 08 - 04:54 PM anyone mentioned Judee Sill ? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Lance Wakely Date: 26 Nov 08 - 02:54 PM Bruce Farwell, Thank you for mentioning me. Since discovering my name on this thread I feel I must put my three cents in. I definately was a little known folk singer. I first came to Greenwich Viliage in New York in 1963 as a 19 year old wet behind the ears kid. I started playing at the basket houses along with Steven Stills, Peter Tork, Filix Pappalardi, Casy Anderson, Eric Anderson, Major Wiley and many of the others from the New York scene who have already been mentioned. I went from being a little known singer to a somewhat more well known sideman guitarist for several well known acts of that era. Monte Dunn, who was mentioned earlier, and I shared a garden apartment for a year or so around 1964/65. He eventually went to Canada to play guitar for Ian and Sylvia and I never saw him again. I was playing with a band called The Pheonix Singers. Three gay black refugees from the former Harry Belafonte singers. Later I played with Bob Gibson who at the time was a very well known folk singer and my early folk idol. Bob Gibson and I were both busted in Toronto Canada in 1965 for drugs. Paul Stukey of Peter, Paul and Mary fronted me 20,000 dollars to bail my young butt out of jail. 20,000 dollars in 1965 was a veritable fortune. I might still be there in jail today if it wasn't for him. Later around 1968 I moved to LA where I became the guitarist for Hoyt Axten who also was very established as a folk singer, song writer and crazed alcholic. Many the night we had to carry all 220 Ripple soaked pounds of him out of the club and dump him into the van. No easy task. At some point he fired me and I left the folk music world to join the world of rock and roll playing in a few California bands of some fame at the time. In 1979 I left the U.S. with another musician friend to seek our fortune in Europe just to see what it was all about. He was called Professor Washboard and I became Dr. Harmonica and Dr. Harmonica I am today. I still live in Europe and perform regularly though now I am known as a blues man. Many of the people mentioned here were folks I knew, drank with, played with and got high with. A few I made love to (females) but that was all long ago and far away.If anybody reads this and wants to contact me and talk about the good old days when we were young I'm at drharmonica@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 26 Nov 08 - 04:11 PM Great reading Lance. I'm sure a few here will be in contact. Beer (adrien) Montreal area |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Casey Anderson Date: 04 Dec 08 - 06:02 PM Does any remember an artist who recorded on ATCO Casey Anderson? I remember the vinyl Casey Anderson live at the Ice House? He had a bluesy soufflé voice reminiscent of Joe & Eddie appreciate any information availiable James Leo New Patlz NY |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Peter Neff Date: 12 Dec 08 - 01:07 AM Definetly remember Casey Anderson. My partner and I were playing the Flick and so was Elizabeth (Corrigan) and George Blackwell. Casey was playing the Gaslight South and came over after his gig was done. He jammed with George and sang with Liz. It was a blues and he and Liz sounded terrific together. I think it was the first time they met. Anyway, I remember he was talking about a movie script he was writing about a little known military calvery made up of black horse riders. That's about all I can recall. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 12 Dec 08 - 03:10 PM I recall Casey Anderson on an early CBS television show called FOLKSOUND USA. Amazingly, also on that show were: Cisco Houston--narrator (he sang "Hard Traveling") Joan Baez Flatt and Scruggs John Jacob Niles John Lee Hooker--he sang his "Hobo Blues"--a great song. Frank Warner did Joe Henry Johnson's "Peanut Vender's Cry" from Suffolk, Virginia ...and a few other I can't recall Also a choral group who did a not very good, I thought, musical arrangement of a Walt Whitman poem---"I Hear America Singing" At the time it was on the air, 1959 or '60, I taped this program on my old Webcor reel-to-reel machine by holding a small hand mike up to the TV speaker. They only recordings from this show that have survived until 2008 are the two songs by Cisco Houston and his spoken intros. The man did have a great speaking voice. Singing too, of course. It has always seemed pretty much apparent to me that when Cisco sang with Woody Guthrie he was using a voice that was more plain than his usual fuller timbered vocal capabilities -- in order to blend better with Woody. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Dec 08 - 12:34 AM From: weelittledrummer Date: 15 Nov 08 - 01:12 AM Yes Guest from Sanity. I was interested. Much more than in the political stuff! Actually, the political stuff a enemy to us all...I can't stand it when the government dictates, our morals, culture, 'behavior modification to suit an agenda, or anything other than what it should be doing... As so far as to other artist I have worked for, with, or know, or knew, there's a few...(wasn't sure if that's what you were referring to) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Cool Beans Date: 13 Dec 08 - 11:03 AM Art: I, too, remember "Folksound USA." Peter Yarrow sang "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" long before he was part of some folk trio I dimly recall. And Mildred Bailey sang "Hello, Little Boy" and Lightning Hopkins was on it too. I recorded it on my reel-to-reel Bell recorder but I don't know where the tape is--probably in a box in my basement. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 14 Dec 08 - 02:28 AM The Nation crossword puzzle has been delayed in the mail so, needing a challenge, I've updated the compilation of names mentioned in this thread. No doubt some have been missed and some are extraneous but all in all it's probably, as we sometimes say, good enough for folk music. —BK 1 Lee Aaron 2 Tossi Aaron 3 Benjie Aaronoff 4 Joe Aaronson 5 Roger Abrahams 6 Ronney Abramson 7 Mike Absalom 8 Milton Acorn 9 Derroll Adams 10 Jon Adams 11 Addiss & Crowfut 12 Mike Agranoff 13 Fran Aiken 14 Andy Aldrich 15 Ted Alevizos 16 Pat Alger 17 Mitch Aliotta 18 Clark Allen 19 Almanac Singers 20 Peter Alsop 21 Ross Altman 22 Rob Ambrosino 23 Casey Anderson 24 Chris Anderson 25 Eric Anderson (Andersen?) 26 Lynn Anderson 27 Pink Anderson 28 Sam Andrew 29 Harvey Andrews 30 Alan Arkin 31 Joey Armando 32 George & Gerry Armstrong 33 Jennifer Armstrong 34 Lucie Arnaz 35 Paul Arnoldi 36 Irving Ashby 37 John Ashford 38 Sally Ashford 39 Mary Asquith 40 Adele Assante 41 Bob Atcher 42 Mike Atwood 43 George Austin 44 Gene Autry 45 Hoyt Axton 46 Joan Baez 47 Mildred Bailey 48 Bob Bain 49 Bruce Baker 50 Chip Baker 51 Chuck Baker 52 Fiddlin' Slim Baker 53 Long John Baldry 54 Marty Balin (Buchwald) 55 Paula Ballan 56 Roma Baran 57 Dave Barber 58 Bill Barclay 59 Horton Barker 60 Barbara Barrow 61 Heidi Barton 62 Robbie Basho 63 Monster Bass 64 John Bassett 65 Paul Bassett 66 Hadley Batchelder III 67 Charlie Baum 68 Jeff Baxter 69 Mel Bay 70 Tammy Baylis 71 Paul Beaver 72 Renee Beghosian 73 Dominic Behan 74 Harry Belefonte 75 Earl Benson 76 Peter Berg 77 Roy Berkeley 78 Marcia Berman 79 Estrella Berosini 80 Chuck Berry 81 Leon Bibb 82 Theodore Bikel 83 Anne Billings 84 Roy Bookbinder 85 Elvin Bishop 86 Bitter End Singers 87 George Blackwell 88 Brian Blain 89 Fanny Blair 90 Arthur Blake 91 Blind Blake 92 Shirley Bland 93 Bill Blatty 94 Richard Blaustein 95 Laurel Bliss 96 Ralph Blizzard 97 Allan Block 98 Ken Bloom 99 Mike Bloomfield 100 David Blue (S. David Cohen) 101 Emo Bluestein 102 Gene Bluestein 103 Geoff Bodenham 104 Eric Bogle 105 Ray Boguslav 106 Buddy Bohn 107 Gordon Bok 108 Danya Bokenboim 109 Jay Bolotin 110 Petroleum Bonaparte 111 Bill Bonyun 112 James Booker 113 Brown(?) Boots 114 Bryan Bowers 115 Brackenwood 116 Grant Brader 117 Hank Bradley 118 Paul Brady 119 The Braid 120 Oscar Brand 121 John Brent 122 Jim Brentano 123 Ron Brentano 124 True Brethren 125 Jim Brewer 126 Marshall Brickman 127 Key Bridge 128 Anne Briggs 129 Judy Bright 130 Jeannine and Mike Briles 131 George Britton 132 Jaime Brockett 133 David Bromberg 134 Roger Brookes 135 Roger Brooks. 136 Sam Broussard 137 Barry Brown (Broudy?) 138 Bill Brown 139 Dennis Brown 140 Fleming Brown 141 Jimmy Brown 142 Lucy Brown 143 Oscar Brown 144 Toni Brown 145 Jackson Browne 146 Oscar Browne 147 Tedd Browne 148 Bobby Brundage 149 Ian Buchanan 150 Lord Buckley 151 Tim Buckley 152 Buckwheat 153 Bud & Travis (Edmonson) 154 Dennis Budimir 155 Jimmy Buffet 156 Jimmy Buffett 157 Valucha Buffington 158 June Bugg 159 Sandy Bull 160 Bill Bunyon 161 Don Burnham 162 Raun Burnham 163 Martha Burns 164 Randy Burns 165 Howie Bursen 166 Allan Burton 167 James Burton 168 Doug Bush 169 David Buskin 170 Phil Buss 171 Paul Butterfield Blues Band 172 Anne Byrd 173 Rolf Cahn (Kahn?) 174 Terry Callier 175 Dick Cameron 176 Lindsay Cameron 177 Bob (Hamilton) Camp 178 Alex Campbell 179 Glen Campbell 180 Sam Cancilla 181 Sam (CC Ryder) Cancilla 182 Bob Canning 183 Sean Cannon 184 Guy & Candie Carawan 185 John Carbo 186 Peter Carbone 187 Bob Carey 188 "Ti Jean" Johnnie Carignan 189 Shlomo Carlbach 190 Fred Carlson 191 Larry Carlton 192 Barbara Carnes 193 Sydney Carter 194 Martin Carthy 195 Al Casey 196 Mike Castle 197 Catmother And The Allnight Newsboys 198 Pat Chamberlain 199 Slim Chance 200 Len Chandler 201 Mike Chapman 202 Clifton Chenier 203 Dominic Chianese 204 Charley Chiarenza 205 Marilyn Child 206 Charlie Chin 207 Nicky Chinn 208 Bill Chipman 209 Tai Chi Chuan 210 Bob Clark 211 William Clausen 212 John Clay 213 Paul Clayton 214 Ray Clayton 215 Ginnie Clemmons 216 Bill Clifton 217 Del Close 218 Stormy Clovers 219 Lost Coast 220 Adam Cochran 221 Bruce Cockburn 222 Ron Coden 223 David Allen Coe 224 David Coffin 225 Andy Cohen 226 Bobby Cohen 227 David Cohen 228 David Bennett Cohen 229 Herb Cohen 230 John Cohen 231 Leonard Cohen 232 S. David Cohen (David Blue) 233 Jerry Cole 234 Bud Coleman 235 Sharon Colen 236 Jimmy Collier 237 Bill Collins 238 Earl Collins 239 John Collins 240 Judy Collins 241 Peter Collins 242 Bob Coltman 243 Jonathan Comins 244 Sallie Comins 245 John Compton 246 Peggy Compton 247 Rory Condon 248 Ken Connors (Dan The Grub) 249 Ry Cooder 250 Brian Cookman 251 Pat Cooksey 252 Michael Cooney 253 Al Cooper 254 Mike Cooper 255 Phil Cooper 256 Alex Corner 257 Liz Trevor Corrigan (Liz Corrigan, Elizabeth, Liz Seneff) 258 Larry Coryell 259 Kay Cothrin 260 Elizabeth Cotton 261 James Cotton 262 Xavier Coudril 263 Pam Coulihan 264 Country Joe and the Fish 265 Danny Counts 266 Ray Court 267 Les Cousins 268 Chris Couveau 269 Andrew Cowan 270 Deb Cowan 271 John Cowles 272 Danny Cox 273 Joanne Crabtree 274 Joe Craven 275 Don Crawford 276 Rae Creevy 277 Slim Critchlow 278 George Cromarty 279 Al Cromwell 280 Dan Cucich 281 Steve Culver 282 Sis Cunningham 283 AL Curry 284 Lou Curtiss 285 Karl Cusio 286 Marty Cutler 287 Jeff Dale 288 Karen Dalton 289 Shoshanna Damari 290 Allan Dameron 291 Alan Damron 292 Allen Damron 293 Barbara Dane 294 Charlotte Daniels 295 Erik Darling 296 Bud Dashiell 297 Brent Davey 298 One Eyed Davey 299 Diane Davidson 300 Gary Davis 301 Jeff Davis 302 Patti (Reagan) Davis 303 Stu Davis 304 Tim Dawe 305 Jim Dawson (of Good Earth with Bill Swafford who became Oliver) 306 Al Day 307 Tom Deacon 308 James Deans 309 Peter Debin 310 Robert DeCormier Singers 311 Rich Dehr 312 Sandy Denney 313 Jackie DeShannon 314 Bill Destler 315 Justin Devereaux 316 Jerry Devine 317 Liam Deyerle 318 Hazel Dickens 319 Hamza el Din 320 Willie Dixon 321 Alex Dobkin 322 Bonnie Dobson 323 Craig Doerge 324 Terry Dolan 325 The Dolphins 326 Ted Donlan 327 Uncle Donnie 328 Mark Dorinson 329 Ray Dorset 330 Rick Dougherty 331 K.C. Douglas 332 Paul Downes 333 Lingo The Drifter 334 Crane Driver 335 John Drury 336 Danny Duncan 337 Tom Dundee 338 John Dunkerley 339 Liane Dunn 340 Monte Dunn 341 Willie Dunn 342 Josh Dunson 343 Dusty Road Boys 344 Mark Dvorak 345 John Dwyer 346 Richard Dyer-Bennett 347 Liz Dyer 348 Snooks Eaglin 349 John Eberhart 350 Travis Edmonson 351 Carolyn Edwards 352 Duke Edwards 353 Larry Ehrlich 354 Gary Eisenkraft 355 Peter Elbling 356 Elegant Ivory Duo 357 Joe Elias 358 Rambling Jack Eliot 359 Eddie Ellison 360 Dave Elson 361 Tommy Emmanuel 362 Logan English 363 Joe Elias Ladino Ensemble 364 Rick Epping 365 Jerry Epstein 366 Sam Eskin 367 Jeff Espina 368 Jess Espina 369 Phil Marcus Esser 370 Neil Estes 371 Bill Evans 372 Pete Everwine 373 Peter Everwine 374 Ewing Street Times 375 John Fahey 376 Billy Faier 377 Mike Fairbanks 378 Waqidi Falicoff 379 Orla Fallon 380 Beers Family 381 Carter Family 382 Mimi Farina 383 Richard Farina 384 Danny Farmer 385 Bruce Farwell 386 Cyrus Faryar (of The Modern Folk Quartet) 387 Bob Fass 388 John Henry Faulk 389 Luke Faust 390 Arnie Feldman 391 Pete Feldmann 392 Julie Felix 393 Freddy Fender 394 Arcangel Fernandez 395 Old Sharky Fester 396 Janis Fink 397 Don Firth 398 John Fitzgerald 399 Blind Erik Flatpick 400 Bela Fleck 401 Joel Fleisher 402 Judy Flenniken 403 Harmonica Frank Floyd 404 John Foley 405 Arran Folk 406 Fast Folk 407 Bud Foote 408 Ellen Ford 409 Glen Ford 410 Gino Foreman 411 Felt Forum 412 Pat Foster 413 Redd Foxx 414 Fastblind Erik Frandsen 415 Dirty Frank 416 Harmonica Frank 417 Jackson C. 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887 Chris Montez 888 Little Brother Montgomery 889 Giovanni Batista Montini 890 Carlos Montoya 891 Moondanse Trio 892 Brian Mooney 893 Christy Moore 894 Lesley Moore 895 Sean Moore 896 Sonny Moore 897 Lou Morell 898 Bruce Morganheim 899 Donald Mork 900 Peter Mork 901 Seraffyn Mörk 902 Artus Moser 903 Bill Moss 904 Buddy Moss 905 Mickie Most 906 Cat Mother 907 Eddie Motteau 908 Johnny Moynihan 909 Martin Mull 910 Barney Munger 911 Bruce Murdoch 912 Noel Murphy 913 Jerry Murray 914 Charlie Musselwhite 915 The Sorry Muthas 916 Ron & Nama 917 Fred Neil 918 Bob Nelson 919 Margaret Nelson 920 Mike Nelson 921 Pat Nelson 922 Tracy Nelson 923 New Bad Trio 924 Bob Newhart 925 Penny Nichols 926 Lea Nicholson 927 Simon Nicol 928 Jack Nissenson 929 Rab Noakes 930 Charley Noble 931 Don Normark 932 Ron Norris 933 Suzie Norris 934 Laura Nyro 935 Joan O'Bryant 936 Joanie O'Bryant 937 Mary O'Hara 938 Charles O'Hegarty 939 Phil Ochs 940 Odetta 941 Pierre Odier 942 Milt Okun 943 Jane Olian 944 Sweet Billy 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Talbott 1253 The Talismen (Sam Cancilla and Michael Smith) 1254 Tall Timber Boys 1255 Gene Tambour 1256 Chaim Tannenbaum 1257 Bob Tanner 1258 Brad Tate 1259 Ray Tate 1260 Cyril Tawney 1261 James Taylor 1262 Jeremy Taylor 1263 Livingston Taylor 1264 Tommy Tedesco 1265 Sonny Terry 1266 Toots Thielemans 1267 Art Thieme 1268 Dave Thomas 1269 Ian Thomas 1270 Eric Thompson 1271 Richard Thompson 1272 Knob Lick Upper Ten Thousand 1273 The Shawnee Three 1274 Old Timey Wool Thumpers 1275 Melody Tickell 1276 Good Times 1277 John Timmons 1278 Blind Bill Todd 1279 Joan Toliver 1280 Jon Toly 1281 Two Tones 1282 Fred Torak 1283 Peter Tork 1284 John Townley 1285 Young Tradition 1286 Art Traum 1287 Artie Traum 1288 Happy Traum 1289 Mary Travers 1290 Ed Trickett 1291 Stanley Triggs 1292 Jimmy Triplett 1293 Stanley Tripp 1294 Tony Trischka 1295 The Jug Trust 1296 Harry Tufts 1297 Gil Turner 1298 Rick Turner 1299 Wayne Tuttle 1300 Ian Tyson 1301 Ken Ulancy 1302 Ivan Ulz 1303 Jay Unger 1304 Steve Unger 1305 "Sonny" Vale 1306 Bill Vanaver 1307 John Vandiver 1308 Larry Vanover 1309 Al Vescovo 1310 Max Villadorata 1311 Bob Vincent 1312 Andy Vine 1313 Al Viola 1314 Albion Do Wa 1315 Woody Wachtel 1316 Stephen Wade 1317 Brian Wadey 1318 Terry Wadsworth 1319 Margaret Wagner 1320 Loudoun Wainwright 1321 Tom Waits 1322 Lance Wakely (Dr. Harmonica) 1323 Jerry Jeff Walker 1324 Peter Walker 1325 Andy Wallice 1326 Jerry Walter 1327 Johnny Ward 1328 Wilbur Ware 1329 Frank Warner 1330 Jeff Warner 1331 Jackie Washington 1332 Doc Watson 1333 Fox Watson 1334 Old Tom The Weaver 1335 Chick Webb 1336 Laura Weber 1337 Steve Weber 1338 Deena Webster 1339 Eric Weisberg 1340 Grant Weisbrot 1341 Dick Weisman 1342 John Weiss 1343 Eric Weissberg 1344 Dick Weissman 1345 Fred Weisz 1346 Gillian Welch 1347 Jenny Vincent Wells 1348 Harry & Jeannie West 1349 Hedy West 1350 Jeannie West 1351 Laura Wetzler 1352 Terry Whalen 1353 Driving Wheel 1354 Terry Whelan 1355 David Whiffen 1356 Whiskeyhill Singers (Cyrus Faryar, Dave Guard, Buck Wheat and Judy Henske) 1357 Penny Whistle 1358 Bob White 1359 Gary White 1360 Josh White 1361 Wade White 1362 Rick Whitelaw 1363 Ray Whitley 1364 George Wien 1365 Dave Wiffen 1366 David Wiffen 1367 Deeanne Wiggins 1368 Major Wiley 1369 Jim Wilhelm 1370 Big Joe Williams 1371 Don Williams 1372 Lucinda Williams 1373 Mason Williams 1374 Sir George Williams 1375 Vivian Williams 1376 David Williamson 1377 Colin Wilson 1378 Meridith Wilson 1379 Rob And Marion Wilson 1380 Stan Wilson 1381 Tyler Wilson 1382 Jesse Winchester 1383 High Winds 1384 The Four Winds 1385 John Winn 1386 Martin Winsor 1387 Winnie Winston 1388 Cal Winzey 1389 Elise Witt 1390 Larry Wolf 1391 Hally Wood 1392 Hally Stepherson Wood 1393 Heather Wood 1394 Royston Wood 1395 Crown Woods 1396 Pine Woods 1397 Stuart Wooley 1398 Brenda Wooton 1399 Nimrod Workman 1400 Arthur Wright 1401 Charles Wright 1402 Hal Wylie 1403 Zally Yanovsky 1404 Glen Yarborough 1405 Bob Yellin 1406 Gene Yellin 1407 Jerry Yester 1408 The Yetties 1409 York County Boys 1410 Izzy Young 1411 Jesse Colin Young 1412 Murray Young 1413 Steve Young 1414 Oranim (Guela Gill) Zabar 1415 Bob Zaidman 1416 Townes Van Zandt 1417 Towndes Van Zant 1418 Henry Zapotnik 1419 Frank Zappa 1420 Dave Zeitlin 1421 Patty Zeitlin 1422 Alexandre Zelkine 1423 Daniel Zemachson 1424 Bob Zentz 1425 Al Zheimer 1426 Judith Zweiman |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 14 Dec 08 - 07:46 AM Wow BK, I tip my hat to you. How the heck did you do that? Don't tell me it was the long way. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Beer Date: 14 Dec 08 - 08:38 AM Wow! is right Bobad. Great work BK. Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 14 Dec 08 - 04:47 PM Bobad sez:"How the heck did you do that?" Ya gotta have a really good text editor that facilitates search and replace operations using grep pattern matching. Essentially, the process was:
—BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,bankley Date: 14 Dec 08 - 05:12 PM still impressive..... thanx... |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 14 Dec 08 - 05:52 PM You lost me at "grep pattern matching" but, allow me to reiterate, well done. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 14 Dec 08 - 08:13 PM Will this thread ever reach 1,000 posts? At one time I would have said no way, but now it looks like a slam dunk. So let me help the process along by adding the name Jackie Gibson Alper, who was just Jackie Gibson until she married Joe Alper. She passed away in 2007. Here's a link to her Mudcat obit thread. Also, the latest compilation has some obvious duplications. Hally Woody and Hally Stephenson Wood are one and the same. So are Townes Van Zandt and Towndes Van Zant, as are Howard Stith and Poor Howard Stith. There are others that are not so obvious. For example, Irene of Tony & Irene Saletan is the same person as Irene Kossoy of the Kossoy Sisters (who appear as a group twice, once under K and once under S). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 15 Dec 08 - 03:37 AM Well, thank goodness there are eagle-eyed 'Catters to catch these unwanted duplications. eh? 'Course, including "Jackie Gibson Alper" with "Jackie Gibson" is kinda like having both "Hally Wood" and "Hally Stephenson Wood" but I'm just sayin', to help the process along. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Janice in NJ Date: 15 Dec 08 - 08:22 AM Mea culpa! I made the same error myself that I pointed out. I don't know how I missed Jackie Gibson's name, but I did. Oh, well, just let me say that I'm glad to see she had already been mentioned, and that it's worth pointing out that she used the last name Alper from the time of her marriage until she passed away. Onward to 1,000! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 15 Dec 08 - 09:22 AM That list is amazing and it's great to have, makes things SO much easier. Thank you for all the hard work. Of course, all we need to have now is links to any artists on that list who have web sites. LOL - I can hear BK groaning from here. :0) Hey, has anyone noticed that Bruce Murdoch has come up as the US/Canada emergency number - 911 - which, with him being a volunteer firefighter, alongside being a great musician, has to be kinda fitting. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 15 Dec 08 - 02:43 PM BKLick is the one who made my folk scene photos web presence, ART'S PLACE, possible. I am amazed at his cyber talents, and thankful for his friendship. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 15 Dec 08 - 02:53 PM ART'S PLACE Lovely photos, Art. :0) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 15 Dec 08 - 03:28 PM Try this one: Art's Place |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 15 Dec 08 - 03:41 PM Ooh, sorry BK, that was my fault, I didn't check the link. Thank you, again. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Anne (Hershoran) Garber Date: 03 Jan 09 - 04:29 PM Yes, I knew the Dirty Shames. I was good friends with Amos Garrett and he and his brother Paul taught me how to fly-fish on long island sound when Paul came down to NYC from Toronto to visit in 1967. Carol I met in 1962 through an ad-guy friend of Ian Tyson's name Ed "Yugi" Cowan, when Cowan hosted Peter, Paul and Mary at an after-concert party at his place. Carol Robertson was also the Wayne and Schuster commedienne who was famous for the "Julie, don't go" line in their skit of Julius Caesar. Jim I knew as a great friend of Patty McLauchlan (and who was solely responsible for my going into Chinese language studies at U of T), and I knew Chick Roberts, who was a very sweet guy. I did a story on the Dirty Shames in 1966 -- a story that also featured the Buffalo Spingfield and some other "new" Canadian bands -- that ran in 1967 under the byline (stolen!) of then-entertainment-editor Ralph Thomas in the Toronto Star. I've meant to pull my story out of the Star's archives for years. Anyone who finds it, please send it to me at anne@evalu8.org, K? At least the Star paid my phone bills for the story! And the biggest thrill aspect of researchng and writing it was getting to talk at length to my long-time print-hero, Scott Young, who was Neil's dad. I saw Scott in 1987 when he was on a book tour to promote his book about Neil AND HE REMEMBERED ME. Apparently, he had asked me "is my boy going to make it?" and I had said: "Oh yes! He's going to be a STAR!" And Mr Y never forgot it! The end. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Anne Garber Date: 03 Jan 09 - 04:35 PM PS I was the editor of Toronto's "HOOT" magazine 1966-1968 and as such remember a few names and faces of the '60s folk scene. Send notes to anne@evalu8.org and I'll send any info I still have. Also, I'm still in touch with the former Lucy Brown (Karwoski) with whom I worked for show business manager Herbert S. Gart in New York. He managed some Canadian acts. And I was friendly with Mary Martin -- who in 1967 had just quit working for Albert Grossman to go out on her own -- she represented (among other acts) Leonard Cohen and other folk acts out of Canada and Toronto. Please put "Toronto Folk" into your subject line, so I won't discard messages. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 03 Jan 09 - 05:48 PM By the way, if the John Timmons on one of the big, sort of all-inclusive lists wa-a-a-a-a-ay up above is the same John Timmons I know, he wasn't a singer. He was the owner and operator of "Pamir House," a coffeehouse on University Way in Seattle, one door up from the northwest corner of University Way N. E. and N. E. 41st Street. He employed a lot of folk singers, and it was a good place to sing. He usually had two or three, sometimes four singers up front at any given time. There was hardly any point in planning sets. We just sort of "winged it," swapping songs, comments, jokes, and more songs. It was like a party, and the audiences loved it. A fun place to sing. And John paid us! Lot's of fledgeling singers got their start there. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 03 Jan 09 - 09:59 PM Don, here's where John Timmons was mentioned. (Wait for the page to scroll down to Doc Knutson's post.) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,kittycat Date: 12 Jan 09 - 01:12 PM Does anyone know what happened to Peter Debin? He is listed as # 131 in one list and # 309 in another. He was a contemporary of Justin Devereaux, Peter Greenberg, and Erik Frandsen. Heard that he died on May 16, 2003, and want to find out if this is true and, if so, how. Please help if you can. kc |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 12 Jan 09 - 02:28 PM "Peter Debin (guitarist and folk dancer, later moved to Massachusetts and died of a stroke)" -- from this post |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 09 - 03:09 PM Does anyone remember the swan folk club wadebridge cornwall uk in the 60s? Love to hear some of the old names |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Star Pahl Date: 29 Jan 09 - 02:28 PM Hello All, I am looking for any information on Elizabeth Knight. I can not find anything on her. Please, please if you could point me in the right direction..I would be very thankful. Star |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 29 Jan 09 - 02:54 PM BK Lick, your post of 18 Feb 08 - 03:49 a.m. is a monumental job, listing 1,319 names, presumably of "little known 60's folk singers," but a fair number of names that got caught in your net are not singers, they are people who were associated with folk music in one way or the other, such as John Timmons, who didn't sing, but ran a coffeehouse. It would probably be a real chore to separate those folks from the singers. But I would say a lot of them deserve honorable mention for "services rendered"—such as Elmar Lanczos (pronounced "LAWN-shoss" – I'm probably one of the few people who knows how to spell his name) who, during the late 1950s and through the 1960s, threw his house open almost every weekend when singers wanted to get together in someone's living room for a song fest. Elmar couldn't sing for sour apples and he knew his limitations, but he enjoyed folk music, and he had a massive collection of folk records which many of us learned songs. Elmar is gone now, but he's probably hosting a song fest in the Great Beyond. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 29 Jan 09 - 10:33 PM As I wrote in that post, "A year ago I posted a list of 585 names which had so far been mentioned in this thread. Repeating the effort,By the way, on 14 Dec 08 I updated the compilation of "names mentioned in this thread" (not of singers) adding 107 names. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers; Mike Fairbanks From: GUEST,fredvainas Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:41 PM Does anyone know the whereabouts of Mike Fairbanks? Last I knew, he was in western Mass., in the Springfield area. This was around 1970. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Leadbelly Date: 12 Feb 09 - 01:23 PM It's great to see that Howard Stith from NH (Poor Howard) successfully managed to have a come-back. I met him in the '60s. That's why I'm happy he did it again! Go on like this, my dear friend! Manfred |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 19 Feb 09 - 01:21 PM Bill Destler, mentioned here earlier as Provost of U of Maryland, is now President of Rochester Institute of Technology. He will be appearing as the opening act this Saturday night for Sally Rogers and Howie Bursen in Rochester, NY for the Golden Link Folk Singing Society (www.goldenlink.org). A rare appearance indeed! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Virginia Date: 21 Feb 09 - 09:55 AM What ever happened to The Children of Paradise? Hope they will all come together again. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Steven Noel Bolstad Date: 05 Mar 09 - 12:11 AM I just joined because I was Googling for my old friend Tom Meisenheimer. It was difficult to find him on Google, but I did see the name Molly Meisenheimer. I knew her as a baby - she's Tom's daughter. She was posting a comment about her father and unknown 60's folksingers. BINGO. Still, I have not been able to find his name yet and there was no way to reach Molly to ask further. The Mudcat Cafe looked pretty cool, so I joined. I am not a player, but I am a listener so this all looks like fun and sourcing combined. YET, Still I wish to connect to Tom. Can anyone help? Steven Bolstad steven@stevenbolstad.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 05 Mar 09 - 04:06 AM Welcome Steven -- Here's the post from Molly about her Dad click me. (Wait a bit for the page to scroll down to 30 Oct 08.) Click the PM link next to her name to send her a private message. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 05 Mar 09 - 04:31 AM Sorry, that's not gonna do any good cuz Molly posted as a guest. Howsomever, a Google search for "Molly Meisenheimer" turns up quite a few hits like this one which have a contact link. Also, you can find her on FaceBook here. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 08 Mar 09 - 12:13 AM Greetings: Today was a homecoming of sorts. I was the opening performer in the first annual Kew Gardens Music Festival, held in what was once known as the Interlude. See my posting from January 6, 2007, for an explanation of the role the Interlude played in the New York folk scene of the 1960s. Anyway, the place is now called the Bliss Gourmet Cafe, but the interior is pretty much as it was back then, but with a slightly larger counter and a much larger variety of food served. The small stage is gone, but the performances take place from the same southwest corner of the room where it once stood. The bathroom is entirely unchanged. The house was packed to capacity, which means about 50 patrons. But that came as no surprise, since admission was free. Most of the audience was there to hear their favorite local songwriters, but instead of doing any of my own songs, I sang instead three that I regularly performed at the Interlude from 1963 to 1965: Woody Guthrie's Hard Traveling, the traditional Worried Man Blues, and Jesse Fuller's San Francisco Bay Blues. Those proved to be the right choices, since I got a more enthusiastic reception that I ever got in the old days. I wish to believe it's because it's because I've developed a modicum of musicianship and showmanship since then. On the other hand, maybe they were just applauding because this old gray haired man was making a bloody fool of himself on stage. The festival organizer, however gave me the thumbs up sign and wants me back for next year. So maybe I really have picked up a rick of two in the past 45 years. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 10 Mar 09 - 08:31 PM This video shows me as the opening performer at the Kew Gardens Music Festival this past Saturday, right after the MC does the welcoming. I hope you enjoy my brief history of the Interlude Cafe. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 10 Mar 09 - 09:11 PM I remember going to the Interlude in the '60's, '65 maybe, to hear Jesse Colin Young and David Blue, although I think he was still working as David Cohen back then. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:25 AM Mark, Yes, you are right. He was still David Cohen when I saw him at the Interlude around the same time, maybe 1964 or 1965. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 11 Mar 09 - 09:51 AM We were probably at the same show. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Diane Gold Date: 11 Mar 09 - 11:57 AM The Interlude was much more than a place for folk music. It was a corner of bohemia in an otherwise very conservative part of a very conservative borough. The Interlude was a place where you went to drink espresso coffee, play chess, read European newspapers, hear poetry readings, and discuss radical ideas in politics, literature, art, religion, psychology, etc. And it was one of the few places anywhere that an interracial couple would feel welcome and not subject to a million staring eyes. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Michael S Date: 11 Mar 09 - 12:35 PM Guest, Virginia, up above, asked about Children of Paradise. The original version of this band included the well-known Traum Brothers who, individually and together, have made quite a few recordings. Artie died a few years ago. Happy is alive and well and remains a significant player in the folk community. Many here know his business, Homespun music instruction. Marc Silber can be found here. I don't know if the contact info is current. The final member was Eric Kaz, who has achieved a fair amount of commercial songwriting success. Michael Scully Austin |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: C. Ham Date: 11 Mar 09 - 05:16 PM Artie Traum just died in 2008. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 14 Apr 09 - 02:19 AM Well golly...people just keep passin'-on all the time now, don't they?...yeah, they do...Mike McQueen, owner of Mary-Margaret McDog and other comedy canines...Citizen Kafka (Richie Shulberg), leader of the Wretched Refuse String Band, Citizen Kafka and his Orchestra and other fine musical organizations...Jesus H. Christ on a Rubber Crutch, it's just Not Fair, Goddammit!!!...well, of course it is, isn't it?...way of the world and all that...God Bless 'em All! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: DannyC Date: 18 Apr 09 - 11:03 AM Jim McGrath (mentioned in Aug, 2006 of this thread) is here in KY The Bluegrass for a visit. (Okay, we're gonna back a few horses, like the old days... What of it?) His travelling companion was kind enough to show me a couple of performing pics from a place called "The Hunt Cup" in Newport, RI (USA) in 1962. She's got a couple of nice shots of him fresh our of the American Navy singing and accompanying himself on guitar (one with a sporty madras jacket). He states that the $8.00 per night earnings from the gig comprised a nice upgrade from the $44 every-two-weeks that The Navy had been paying... not to mention a few drinks and the attention of some fine and lovely company. He's #845 in the complilation put together by BK Lick. 1962.... Damn... That's getting to be a little while ago, isn't it? Sing-song tonight -- a few quiet tunes -- a glass or two -- here's to a half-century ago. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Tug the Cox Date: 18 Apr 09 - 01:21 PM Anyone remember 'Arky's Toast' , a three piece male harmony group. I think they were policemen by day.London area. What was the actual Toast ftom which they took their name? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: seligmanson Date: 21 Apr 09 - 02:36 PM Here are some names I'd like to hear about from my time on the London folk-scene of the 60's. Redd Sullivan, a big physical performer with expressive hands and a loud, rich voice beautifully-suited to the music-hall songs he sang (I learned 'I Don't Know No-One What Don't Want No Nine-Inch Nails' from him); John Foreman, also a performer of music-hall songs, an authority in his field, just as effective as Redd, though less demonstrative; and Jack King, who ran the folk-club at Cecil Sharp House (yes, people, there was one once, before the EFDSS decided that selling things should take priority over the actual performing of music); he was, along with his wife (I remember her name as being Jean, but I may be wrong; if so, I apologise), a good performer, a fine organiser, and a warm and witty MC: he made that club one of the best in the country, and even now I remember it with an affection I have for no other club, not the Singer's Club, not Bunjie's, not the Troubador, not the Fox in Islington, not the London Folk Centre, all great clubs in their way, but none as straightforwardly enjoyable as Jack King's. Is there any-one out there who can give me news of the King family, and of Paul Thompson, the other resident there? Come to think of it, who else remembers Karl Dallas's London Folk Centre, a wonderfully worth-while experiment which in its short life produced some great events and provoked some superb performances (and I met my first girl-friend there. Hello Rosemary). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: DannyC Date: 21 Apr 09 - 06:59 PM Lovely weekend ... must've sung a hundred songs... McGrath spinning yarns of hopping off his square-rigged brig in Liverpool - thirsty - and finding the pubs closed for holy hour... then finding a place called "The Chains Locker" (sp?) and having some fellow named Hugill inquiring about the sailing ship from whence he had just disembarked... etc. etc. I hadn't had a song with Jimmy in 23 years, and we launched 'em like we'd never missed a beat... Jim McGrath - 1962 |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers--Mel Lyman's ex From: GUEST,Felicia Date: 08 May 09 - 01:54 AM Hi, In 1967 I was in a household with a young woman who had fled Mel Lyman, named Nina, with short dark hair. I seem to recall she had been married to either Mel or someone in the Kweskin Jug Band. Anyone out there know Nina? Felicia |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Elizabeth Knight Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:13 AM Someone asked about her. See |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:17 AM Another try re Elizabeth Knight. I gave a link to a pdf, but it hasn't come through: http://www.newspiritjournal.com/Issues/May09/May091.pdf |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 09 Jun 09 - 06:42 PM Here's a link to the May 2009 issue of the Seattle community newspaper in which the article appears: clicky here. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Ian Date: 08 Jul 09 - 08:04 PM There was a query here a couple of years ago about a very good young Geordie guitarist at the Hanging Lamp FC in Richmond in the late Sixties. Trainee teacher, it said. Frank McSomething, it said. The answer is Connell. As in Frank McConnell. Very very good. And a nice man, too. He was one of the people behind the club, which was associated with the very early careers of John Martyn, Al Stewart, Ralph McTell, John James, Gryphon, Davey Johnstone and many more. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:00 AM R.I.P Sandy Paton. Hello David Jones Anna, I was Hoot's first editor. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mark Burks Date: 08 Sep 09 - 11:04 PM Peter, I would love to hear more of his music, if there is any way that could be possible. I cherish his one Columbia album, and all of the stories I have heard of him. I was only four when he died, and never got to know him. --Another kin of Seraffyn. (I am his aunt Alice's grandson. BTW, Alice, tho concieved in Denmark was born in Chicago. Some traveling family, no?) MLBurks@gmail.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen Date: 15 Sep 09 - 08:06 PM Steve Mann died in San Francisco on September 8th, 2009 after suffering a stroke some months earlier...he had so little peace in this world, let's hope he finds some in the next. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 16 Sep 09 - 11:40 AM Greetings: I attended the annual folk musicians' reunion in New York City's Washington Square Park this past Sunday, Sept. 13, and had the pleasure and honor of jamming and singing with some of the great figures from the old days. Among them were David Bromberg, John Cohen, Eric Weissberg, Mick Vandow, Hal Wylie, Kenny Kosek, Gene Tambour, and Roger Sprung. I also noticed Marshall Brickman and Danny Kalb among those present, but neither was playing any music when I saw them. The only surprise was how overwhelmingly male it all was. What happened to all the women folk musicians from days gone by? This past Sunday they were few and far between. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marc S. Silber Date: 20 Sep 09 - 05:51 AM HELLO, I am here in Berkeley California, and still making music and still selling and repairing fretted instruments. www.marcsilbermusic.com I have just completed my CD # 5 and will have the graphics done soon and it will show up with th others on my website. Nice post by Erik Frandsen about Steve Mann who we lost last week after a long illness. I will attend a musical wake tomorrow in his honor, here in Berkeley where he liveed for about the last 12 years. peace without bombs, marc s. silber |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 12 Oct 09 - 01:54 PM Greetings once agin, Did you notice that this thread will turn 5 years old next month? Who would have thought? Anyway, I just put a video on YouTube of me performing this past March at what had been the old Interlude coffee house in Kew Gardens, New York. The place is now called the Bliss Gourmet Cafe and the big menu chalkboard is new, but otherwise it's pretty much as it was 45 years ago when Michael Cooney lived upstairs. Please click here to see and listen. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jef Jaisun Date: 22 Oct 09 - 12:41 PM Yow! And all I was looking for was a link for Heidi Barton! Three hours later... Some names left off the list: Barry Olivier, Ragtime Erik Fingerpick (sorry, man, but that was your handle before the flatpick got involved), Stan Rogers, Campbell Coe (yep, he did more than just fix instruments), Carol Crist, Sue Molin, Mike Wilhelm, Don MacAllister, Rick Shubb, Sol Feldthouse. Lynne Hughes with an 'e' in her first name. #224 -- same as Davey Coffin of pH Factor? It's been 16 years since Country Joe organized the Berkelely Renaissance folk scare reunion at the Veteran's Hall. Time for a follow-up, while enough of us are still around to get there. --- Jef P.S. Oh yeah, that. It'll be 40 years old on Nov. 14. www.eljefe.net/fnnafaq.html |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,christopher robin Date: 24 Oct 09 - 10:35 PM re: Earl Bensen... ty someone for reminding me of his name..back from the old cafe espresso/gotham city and the folksingers/trieste days. talented and funny he was indeed. Now... does anyone remember "The Great-Butter-Plane"...plus Ravi! ?? later |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Max Date: 26 Oct 09 - 08:01 PM How about Bodie Wagner, I ran into him in the mid 70's in Montreal hitching a ride on Utah Phillips and Rosalie Sorrel's coatails. He was kind of a latter day Woody Guthrie with serious attitude. Sang hobo and road songs. I still have a piece of vinyl of his from Philo. Max |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 26 Oct 09 - 09:45 PM Bodie lives in Nevada City CA these days, working as a finish carpenter. built his own house. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 29 Oct 09 - 10:02 PM Two names that belong here are George McKelvey and Joel Cory who performed together in the 60's as The Outsiders. See this thread for info about each. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Ed Hargadine Date: 17 Nov 09 - 03:20 PM For those of you who remember Seattle's Pamir house, I'll admit having known Andy Aldrich, Mike Atwood, Robbie Basho, Paul Bassett, Laurel Bliss, Bryan Bowers, Rolf Cahn, Don Firth, Gene Jaleski, Paul Gillingham, John Hendricks, John Hughes, Lynne Hughes, Doc Knutson, Steve Lalor, Mike Leib, Eejim Manning, Sue Molin, Barney Munger, Jerry Murray, The Turkey Pluckers, Nancy Quensé, Billy Roberts, Walt Robertson, Alice Stuart, John Timmons, Larry Vanover, Jim Wilhelm, Vivian Williams, Carol Crist, Sue Molin, Don MacAllister, Jef Jaisun, and Davey Coffin. John Timmons was the only one among tem who didn't play music. I don't remember Robbie Basho or Larry Vanover doing much singing, --- which may not mean they didn't --- but the rest of them did sing. Some other names that will most likely be of interest to those who remember the Pamir House: Mike Noone, John Braheny, John Browne, Heather Hammond, Ron Ginther, Ferd Ginther, Bill Sheldon, Dallas Williams, Ed Hargadine, Barry Hall, Lulu Harshman, Mariide Widman, Bill Gunther (A.k.a. Lee Traveler,) David Hutsell, Mike Murphy, Nick Ogilvie, Mukilteo Trio, Phil Williams, and Myron Johnson. I'm sure there were many more, but for now that's all my memory will retrieve. These folks all sang at the Pamir House at one time or another, and as this was forty years in the past, I'm pretty sure I'm remebering mostly the ones who came back many times and did a pretty good job. I do know for sure that Mike Atwood, John Hendricks, Don MacAllister and Walt Robertson have passed away, and I seem to recall hearing the same about Nick Ogilvie and Robbie Basho, though I'm not certain of either. Otherwise, so far as I know, the rest are still living. We sure had a lot of fun back then. :-) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Ed Hargadine Date: 18 Nov 09 - 04:41 AM In the preceding post I also wanted to mention Earl Benson, who performed at Cafe Espresso in Portland, but I had some trouble remembering his name. A very inspirational performer with a lot of enthusiasm, as well as a well-regarded songwriter. Earl passed away early in 2008, as I understand things. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: voyager Date: 18 Nov 09 - 01:26 PM Some comments and a question... Thanks to BK Lick for this amazing 'canonical list' IMHO - Kotke and Fahey would not be on a 'f***-singers' list. I remember Kotke's quote about 'geese farts on a muggy day' I have absolutely no recollection of Fahey Singing (Mudcat help me out) Question - If this thread were 'Well Known Folk Singers of the 60's' whould the list be longer (or shorter)? Cheers voyager |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,ivemann Date: 25 Nov 09 - 05:46 AM Does anyone remember The Talismen? Originally out of Rider University in Lawrenceville,NJ during the 60's? Recorded for Prestege Records. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 29 Nov 09 - 04:43 PM I'm searching for information on a little known group of gospel singers called the Mole Hill (or Molehill) singers. In the 1950s and early 1963s they were popular on late night country/religious radio. They did a really great version of "Home of the Soul" (If for the prize we have striven, After our labors are o're ...). The only Mole Hill I can find is somewhere in Tennessee, but no web sources on this group. If anyone has any information on them, kindly contact: Jay Edwards gaedwa@lsu.edu Louisiana State University |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,DaveC, guest Date: 22 Jan 10 - 03:05 PM Someone on this thread asked the whereabouts of Mary Smith, from Flint, MI. Funny thing, I've been thinking about her recently. When I lived in Flint, I was in a trio, and she and I were friends from church (true!) she was the first to get a Martin guitar, and knew all the Ewan McColl, Buffy Ste. Marie songs etc.... very talented. We ran into each other over the subsequent foggy late 60's, and I saw her at the Bull Pub at University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, and she was apparently living in NYC..and mysterious about her life to that point. She had been very talented, with a striking Judy Collings-esque voice. With a name like hers, I would imagine near impossible to find. I also ran into Eric Anderson in Milt Okun's office in '68, and haven't heard from him since. How about Bob(?)Boyce, of Denver, Boyce & Johnson (I last saw him in Duluth in '69), about the time John Deutchendorf (aka John Denver hit it big as a solo). Lastly, there is John Fraser (chad Mitchell trio)again, lost track of him in '69. Memory lane is dusty. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 22 Jan 10 - 10:44 PM Mike Fraser from the Mitchell Trio is a minister in California. Mary Smith(if she's the same Mary Smith I knew in the Village in the '70's)I don't know where she is now, last time I saw her was 30-some years ago and she was tending bar at an Italian restaurant on Houston St. called ARTUROS's. We occassionally sang duets together at the Thursday night Bluegrass jam there. Erik Frandsen might know if she is till around somewhere. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Don Meixner Date: 23 Jan 10 - 12:59 AM Mark I think your memory is off just a bit. The Vicar (Joe Frazier) is a Mudcatter and Mike Kobluk is out in the West Coast but I'm not sure where. Don |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 23 Jan 10 - 01:46 PM Don you're right, it's Joe Frasier, but he is in California. Down by LA I think. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mishacatty Date: 25 Jan 10 - 02:22 PM Anyone remember a duo called Art & Paul? Did the greatest rendition of "All the Pretty Little Horses" I've ever heard. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 19 Feb 10 - 10:51 PM Hi, I met Seraffyn Mork at Phillips Andover in MA in probably 1961, and was so impressed by him I decided to take up folk music as a result. I was probably one of the few DJs that gave his album serious airplay. Would **love** to somehow get a copy of his album, and would seriously consider putting up a simple website to share his music, if anyone wishes to do so - I have a small PC based audio studio at home. Steve Curcuru steve@curcuru.com steve@curcuru.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,John Braheny Date: 21 Feb 10 - 01:21 AM My name just popped up from this site onto my Google Alert list. Thanks to Ed Hargadine for the mention re Seattle's Pamir House where we'd sit around the pot bellied stove in endless jams. What a cool discovery! Having played throughout the 60s on the Omaha, Minneapolis, Chicago Seattle,Vancouver BC and Boston/Cambridge folk scenes I have a long list of very good but little-known to better-known folksingers that I've had the pleasure of performing with and knowing. I'll list them by scene though most of them played throughout the U.S.as I did. Omaha '62: Mike McCarthy, Ted Anderson, Maxine Sellers, Clark Moffet, Daryl Seagraves, Ray Phoenix, Mike Brewer (before Brewer and Shipley) Bob Grossman, Len Chandler (also prominent in the NY G Village scene. We became biz partners in 71 for 25 years) We played The 3rd Man, The Jolly Coachman, Crooked Ear and several other clubs. Minneapolis 62-63:Jeff Espina, Judy Larson, John Koerner, Dave Ray, Tony Glover, Billy Golfus/John Gravelin, John Kolstad. Played the Scholar in Dinkeytown and the Triangle. Seattle 63: the previously mentioned Pamir House where I met "Barefoot"John Hendricks, John Browne, Davey Coffin (influential player - I still have some early tapes) Robbie Basho (he did pass), Billy Roberts (Wrote "Hey Joe")and Walt Barbee(Is anyone in touch with Walt?) I also met Peter Elbling (later of the Times Square Two), newly arrived from the UK (We're still friends)and Carol Crist. Steve Lalor and Lynne Hughes(later in the 60s). Also played a club called the Queequeg(sp) in the U district. Vancouver BC 63: Played many times at the Bunkhouse and at the Secret in Victoria with Brent Titcomb, David Wiffen, (both later with 3's A Crowd)Jon York, and many others I met there including Bruce Langhorne (we're still friends) The Chicago scene was rich. I played at Mother Blues, The Fickle Pickle (Mike Bloomfield was managing), the Unicorn with Johnny Brown, Bob Gibson, George McKelvey. Boston/Cambridge:65-66 (I think) I played clubs on Charles street - Sword and Stone, Turks Head (Also played their other club in Wellfleet), Mark Spoestra, Peter Childs, Taj Mahal, Chris Smither, Paul Arnoldi and Debbie Green(who I met much later). Never played Club 47 but enjoyed many great performances there. I'm sure I've forgotten as many as I remember. Someone should do a book about all the performers and other equally fascinating characters from that era. For me it was life-changing. Thank you all for jogging my sometimes hazy 60s mmemories. Reach me at john@johnbraheny.com or join me on Faceook. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jef Jaisun Date: 21 Feb 10 - 08:52 PM John -- Walt Barbee is still living in NE Seattle, or at least he's listed on the tax rolls, at 5751 29th Avenue NE. I know this 'cause in 1987 I wired his house! And that happened because Bryan Bowers talked me into re-wiring the massive, 100-year-old Bowers Towers a few years earlier. Then all my musician pals started passing me around like a joint with skills. :) The good news is I used the money to buy more guitars and tour Europe, and so far the houses haven't burned down. Alex Campbell told me he married Peggy Seeger because her visa had expired and she was facing deportation. After the marriage, he effectively "handed her off" to Ewan McColl. Peggy corroborated this when I talked to her circa 1990. Jef www.jaisunphoto.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Eric Marchbein Date: 02 Mar 10 - 08:37 AM I stumbled upon this thread and really enjoyed reliving the 4 Winds scene. My brother, Ted, invited me to join the Hunker Hill String Band in 1965, so that makes me a little-known folksinger! The band was named for our childhood home in Hunker, PA. Ted died in '02. I saw Charlie Chin at the National Storytelling Festival in Jonesborough, TN about 5 years ago. He was a featured performer telling stories of the Chinese immigrant days in San Francisco. He was great! Jay Unger is no little-known folksinger. He is, of course, the composer of Ashokan Farewell, the theme song of Ken Burn's Civil War film. He still tours and performs. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,jan jarvis Date: 03 Mar 10 - 10:55 PM hi I am seeking anyone who has memories or recordings of Michael Atwood who used to play at the Pamir house in seattle-please respond to jbjmog////2gmail.com |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 06 Mar 10 - 10:39 AM Some sad news! I just learned that after nearly half a century in business under one name or another, the Bliss Gourmet Cafe in Kew Gardens, Queens, New York, finally closed its doors last week. All that is left is an empty corner storefront and FOR RENT signs. Under previous owners, the cafe had once been called the Interlude, and during the first half of the 1960s it was one of the important centers of the folk scene in New York City. At one time Michael Cooney lived in one of the apartments on the second floor of the building which housed the Interlude, and he often served as the MC for the Thursday open mic nights, then called hootenanny nights. Michael was also among the many who appeared as featured performers on Friday and Saturday nights. Others included Pat Sky, Dave Van Ronk, Eric Andersen, and Phil Ochs. In its most recent incarnation as the Bliss Gourmet Cafe, the venue continued to present live music, mostly local singer-songwriters. A year ago it hosted he Kew Gardens Music Festival, and I was invited to be the first performer in recognition of my connection to ithe past. Let's hope a new tenant comes along to reopen the cafe and continue its long tradition. --- Steve |
Subject: RE:Little known '60s Folk Singers From: CC Ryder Date: 06 Mar 10 - 07:40 PM To the person who sent the post regarding Sam Cancilla/CC Ryder I am his sister, I live in Canada. Sam died on September 1st 2007 in Ocala Florida of heart failure. He was an amazing man and a wonerful singer, excepionally talented with a velvet voice. I am glad someone remembers him. Thank you. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: CC Ryder Date: 06 Mar 10 - 07:48 PM I sent a reply to this post but I am not sure if I did it right... I am Sam Cancilla's sisier. I live in Canada. Sam passed away on Sept 1st 2007 of heart failure in Ocala Florida. I am glad to see he is remembered. He was an extremely talented man with a velvet voice. I miss him very much. Thank you |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 21 Mar 10 - 08:12 AM Here's a double blast from the past! I heard both Matt Jones (ex-SNCC Freedom Singer) and Donal Leace perform at the Peoples' Voice Cafe in New York City last night (March 20, 2010). --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marco Paolo McNeill Date: 23 Mar 10 - 10:46 AM "Children of the storm", the last album from Paul McNeill, my father is on www.paulmcneill.ch marco@paulmcneill.ch |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bill French, Epsom, NH Date: 26 Mar 10 - 07:02 PM I hope this connects to the thread about Leonda and her ocelot. I worked in the same USAF shop at Otis AFB as Billy and used to hang out at their house in Sandwich, Ma. in 1964 - 1966 We used to go up to the Boston coffeehouses after we got off work at the base to listen to Leonda and other folk singers. I had a photo darkroom in their basement. When I got out the USAF from Goose Bay, Labrador, I stopped by their place in Cambridge and they had the ocelot then. I also remember then having a "Honey bear" (kinkajou?) at one point. Bill French Epsom, NH |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 27 Mar 10 - 06:44 PM The "lads" or the "boys" The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem brought Irish music to America through the folk revival. I worked with them and a wonderful guitarist who did great work with Odetta on Tradition Records (owned by Pat Clancy)................... Bruce Langhorne. Paul Clayton opened the Gate of Horn folk nightclub in Chicago. John Braheny mentioned the Fickle Pickle in Chicago. I played there with a trio on the off night and a new comedian used to come in and do impromptu sets ....Dick Gregory. Bob Gibson came in too. Does anyone remember Pat Foster or Woody Wachtel? Or Rolf Cahn? (I know Jo Mapes does because she posts here.) John Braheny, "Baby Let Me Follow You Down" by Eric Von Schmidt, Jim Rooney does a good job of chronicles from that time and preceding times. Lots of Club 47 folks there. Taj Majal and Ry Cooder were in a group called "The Rising Suns" The late Erik Darling influenced the pop folk scene with "The Banana Boat Song" running concurrently with Belafonte's and "Walk Right In", his rewrite of Gus Cannon's song with the Rooftop Singers. Broadside Magazine run by Cis Cunningham and Gordon Freisen featured some songwriters who weren't quite as famous as Paxton and Dylan (who they featured) such as Gil Turner. Len Chandler was part of that also. He later wrote songs for a weekly news show in Los Angeles on current events called "The Credibility Gap". Bernie Krause replaced me in the Weavers. He has an interesting autobio: In 1998, Heyday Books ," Into a Wild Sanctuary: A Life in Music and Natural Sound." Does anyone remember Jessie Benton (Tom Benton's daughter?) Some might remember Billy Faier, the banjo player. He innovated some interesting banjo styles as did Sandy Bull. Jim Rooney and Eric Von Schmidt. Joe Val and the New England bluegrass band, The Charles River Valley Boys. Around that time Geoff Muldaur, Maria and the influential Bill Keith (the father of melodic conjunct style banjo playing) were in Jim Kweskin's band at the Club 47 on Bow St. Cambridge. Ray Boguslav from New York. Children's songwriter Peter Alsop. Did anyone know that Jac Holzman of Elektra Records played flamenco guitar? Tony Saletan? Brookline MA. Molly Scott? Caroline Hester Anita Shearer? They were known by a small audience in the 60's. One of my fave folkies that I worked with at the Gate of Horn was Alan Mills (nee Alan Miller) who brought with him the greatest fiddler I've ever heard name Jeanny Carignan (Ti Jean) from Montreal.. I also worked with Brother John Sellers, a great fellow and fine gospel singer. Of course, if you remember the 60's, you weren't there. F. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: iancarterb Date: 28 Mar 10 - 10:58 AM I love that list, Frank. Heard most on recordings, a few in the same room. One I knew of from an in-law was Tony Saletan, whom I missed at Pinewoods because I moved west, but finally met last year when he sang with Joe Hickerson in Seattle. He lives in Tacoma, and forever in 15 minute segemnts of in service-television for schools from the late fifties and early sixties. Carter Bannerman |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 28 Mar 10 - 04:48 PM Frank, Tony Salretan did a program for the New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club just one year ago. The program featured songs from the 1948 Progressive Party campaign of Hentry Wallace. Carolyn Hester will be performing with her two daughters at the Peoples' Voice Cafe in New York City this coming May 15. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Bettynh Date: 28 Mar 10 - 05:02 PM I remember seeing Tony Salatan on public television when it was on maybe 3 hours a day in the early 60s. Saturday afternoons had Julia Child, Pete Seeger's "Rainbow Quest" and sometimes Tony, but I don't remember the name of his program. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 09 Apr 10 - 08:50 PM aloha marco - i just found your postings on mudcat. i only check in every couple of years but i'm glad to have the opportunity to let you know i knew your dad briefly in 1966. we hitched together from greece to rome where we stayed a week or so with gordon mcintyre and his wife. had my first espresso. i liked your dad.....was sorry to hear he is no longer on the planet. i hope he had a good life. we were not in touch much after that summer. i went on to open a guitar store with my then significant other - store still there in nyc......umanov guitars. your dad would have loved all the old martins that passed through. i live in hawaii now.....have a bamboo nursery on the big island and a bunch of old guitars up in the loft. hope you have good memories of paul. though i only knew him briefly, i think he was a pretty good guy. and he sure made getting to rome easier and safer and more fun for me. aloha, and peace without bombs......susan ruskin (ex umanov). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 09 Apr 10 - 10:09 PM Hello Susan, good to see you here. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 10 Apr 10 - 07:59 PM Steve, Pete Seeger told me that he cut his teeth as a performer on the Wallace campaign trail with Robeson. Learned to sing for large audiences. Tony was responsible for the arrangement used on "Micheal Row The Boat Ashore". Frank |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,susan ruskin Date: 11 Apr 10 - 02:05 AM and aloha to you.....still in the city? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Mark Ross Date: 11 Apr 10 - 11:24 AM Eugene, Oregon these days. Left The Big Core(the apple has long since been eaten) 34 years ago, Montana far 23 years, and then here. MarK Ross |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 12 Apr 10 - 01:27 PM Frank, Thanks for those tidbits. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Gene Jaleski Date: 02 May 10 - 03:01 PM I am alive and well on a little island in the Gulf of Mexico. I loved being a part of the folk/hippie scene in the early sixties. Moved to Duvall in 1967 followed by Lahaina, Holly Weird, Lake Tahoe and here and now. I played six and twelve string and mostly rural blues. Seattle was a beautiful experience with beautiful characters and a story almost too special to tell. Link to me and friends in Duvall and Seattle in the sixties: http://picasaweb.google.com/geneonlbk/DuvallWashington19681975# |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Larry The Radio Guy Date: 14 May 10 - 06:39 PM Alright, here's a couple who none of you are probably familiar with: (Maybe they qualify more as 70's rather than 60's). RICHARD WHITE: Played a lot in Edmonton (at The Hovel and The Edmonton Folk Club) as well as in Calgary and Winnipeg--plus the very first Frostbite Music Festival in Whitehorse. A great songwriter, the theme of many of his songs being the loss of traditional ways of life---with a Western Canadian focus. He put out 3 lp's on Tonic Records, the last one being adaptations of poetry by Icelandic/Canadian poet, Stephane Stephanson (sp?). Currently he's a history professor in Toronto. DALEN AND STOJAN: (Gary Dalen and Mike Stojan). From Grande Prairie, Alberta where the performed during the late 60's, early 70's--then disappeared. Great complex harmonies during a period of time when this wasn't "in". They played at the first Dawson City Music Festival in 1978 and nothing more has been heard of them. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,moonrider Date: 22 May 10 - 05:06 PM Anyone remember Don Crawford - great folk singer, played in Canada and the US, worked in Vancouver at Vancouver LIfe magazine. Played 12-sring and sounded like Richie Havens.I heard him in Vancouver 1962 nd again 1968 - played Hootenannies. Where is he now? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 22 May 10 - 05:50 PM Anyone know where Don Crawford is? I remember him from Vancouver between 1962-1968. Sounded like Richie Havens. Played 12-string. Great voice. Worked for Vancouver Life magazine 1962. Anyone know what happened to him? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marvin Dockery Date: 29 May 10 - 10:13 AM I went often to the Hunt Club in Newport to listen to Jim, and drink an ale or two. He was buddies with several of my friends, and twice came to our house, at 82 mill street, for dinners prepared by our land lady, Berniece Woods. Jim has a new cd, to be released any day now, that features two of my 1962 images of him, and the destroyers at Newport. If you want to see the old 1962 photos of Jim check out his gallery at www.pbase.com/modelsmodels |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Larry The Radio Guy Date: 24 Jun 10 - 03:26 AM Re. the list compiled by BKLick. Where are Mickey Newbury and Tom Rapp? Two of the greatest. (and take out Eartha Kitt, Toots Thielman, and others who have nothing to do with folk, singer-songwriter, or roots music). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: RoyH (Burl) Date: 24 Jun 10 - 06:03 AM Whatever happened to the two London boys Martin Shoben and Harry Vallins, known as 'The Haverim'? They were well known on the UK folk scene in the 1960's, singing Yiddish songs like 'Yoshke Fort Avec', and others like '9 Inch Nails'. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:23 PM Don Crawford. Yes, I heard him once at The Ark in Vancouver, B.C. This would have been sometime in the late 1960s. Excellent! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:27 PM Saidman said: Re. the list compiled by BKLick. Where are Mickey Newbury and Tom Rapp? Two of the greatest.Well, if you will notice, the list purports only to be a compilation of names mentioned in this thread. The two you inquired about had not yet been mentioned, whereas the ones you instructed us to take out have been mentioned. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Larry The Radio Guy Date: 24 Jun 10 - 11:41 PM Good point! Sorry about that. But consider them now to have been mentioned. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Tim Shoben Date: 23 Jul 10 - 04:45 PM Hi Burl, Martin's my dad, so let me know what you want to know!! He'd be very happy someone remembers him & Harry. All the best, Tim |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Genie Date: 23 Jul 10 - 05:31 PM Among the good folksingers I heard when I lived in Greenwich Village in the early '60s but who are not well-known except maybe to real folkie "insiders" are Josh White's daughter Beverly, Peter & Isobel Gardner (very eclectic and both with classical musical training), and Bonnie Dobson. The latter two, as well as Carolyn Hester, Guy Carawan, and Judy Henske, were folksingers I discovered early on, by way of live performances or workshops and/or records, but who never really became big names. Then there are people like Andy Cohen who were hardly known in the '60s and even now are not as well known as their talent deserves. Andy spent a short time in Champaign-Urbana, IL, where I met him and he would entertain me and others, playing my old Martin guitar. I don't think he had done much songwriting at the time, but his guitar work and blues singing were very impressive even back then. Another excellent guitarist/singer/performer whom I knew in Philadelphia about 1970 was Max Yasgur's nephew Bruce Yasgur. DK if he ever did any recording but he was excellent. Someone's already mentioned the Seattle area folks like Don Firth, Nancy Quense, Stewart Hendrickson, Reggie Miles, Mike Nelson, Bob Nelson, Stan James, and Bruce Baker. And in the Portland, OR, area we had some excellent folkies such as Jinx Davis, Steve Culver (the same one mentioned before as a Seattle area musician?), Bo and Paul Parker, Bob Cotta, Mary Benson (both of the group "Howling Gael"), Kate Power & Steve Einhorn, Bill Murlin. I might add Baby Gramps and Jim Page, as well as Linda Allen and Linda Waterfall. And back about 1959, when I first "got into" folk music, I got a record by a folk trio called "The Coachmen." They were a lot like the Kingston Trio or The Limeliters, for what it's worth, but whatever you think of that type of "folk" music, they were excellent musicians. Then there are people like our own Mary Garvey, who have been writing and singing beautiful folk songs for decades - not sure if they all were doing that in the '60s though. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Morgana Date: 23 Jul 10 - 07:41 PM Abby, could your San Fransisco folk singer Tom be Tom Parrott? He wrote "The Freedoms We've Been Fighting For," which is in Broadside Magazine, and I think he's still alive. I'm pretty sure I looked him up on wikipedia once. Many of the people whose names I've seen here appeared in Broadside Magazine. I'm too young to have been around in the '60's, and I always thought that anybody I knew the name of had to be well-known, otherwise I wouldn't know about them. But, there are several names in a Broadside songbook which my mother gave me that I've tried to look up online, and had no results. Of course, just because somebody isn't online now doesn't mean they weren't famous then, but I feel as if there would be some mention of their name somewhere if they were. I've noticed that several people have posted about David Cohen (I guess there are three David Cohens). In my Broadside songbook, there is a David Cohen mentioned who wrote "The Cruel Years," and "More Good Men Goin' Down," both anti-Vietnam songs. I wonder if he is one of the same ones you all have talked about? Also in the songbook are Alex Cohen and Bob Cohen. Probably unrelated, since Cohen is a common name. I'm going to list here some of the "little-known" song-writers who appear in my book, along with others whom I consider to be well-known: Eric Anderson - He wrote "My Land is a Good Land," and had a record (1965ish) called "'Bout Changes and Things." I own this, and it's the only record of his I've ever heard of. Rich Astle - He wrote "The Autumn Wind," which I love. I don't know what became of him, but I would like to know. Ed Carl Jimmy Collier - I think he was active in the poor people's movement with Fredrick Douglas Kirkpatrick "Everybody's Got a Right to Live." Joan Cosman Gail Dorsey and Emilie Gould Richard Farina - played the mountain dulcimer. Mimi Farina's husband. He wrote "Children of Darkness," and died tragically in a motorcycle accident. Bill Frederick Ricardo Gautreau Chris Gaylord Guillevic Carolyn Hester Matt Jones and Elain Laron Paul Kaplan Mike Kellin Peter Krug Peter La Farge - I think this is who wrote "As Long as the Grass Will Grow," and worked for Native American causes. He died young, but I'm not sure why. Julius Lester Walter Lowenfels Ernie Marrs Ric Masten Matt McGinn - He may be more well-known than I think. I've seen his name in other places besides Broadside. Will McLean - He wrote several songs about the history of his home state, Florida. He was also a WWII vet, and older than many of the younger folk-singers of the time. Jerry Moore Ronnie Peterson Vanessa Redgrave - A little-known singer, but a well-known actress and activist, I would guess. Malvina Reynolds - I don't consider her little-known, but nobody else seems to know who she is. She's one of my favorites. Norman A. Ross Teddi Schwartz Patrick Sky Mark Spoelstra Luis Valdez Carl Watanabee Billy Edd Wheeler Elain White Martin Wood Woody Wright If anybody has information about the people mentioned in this post, I'd like to know more about them. Feel free to correct me if I've listed someone who is actually quite famous as "little known." |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:09 AM Morgana, Lots of people you mention are still alive and actively performing, and there are several that I am in contact with. For example, I regularly see and speak with Paul Kaplan, since both he and I currently serve on the People's Music Network steering committee. Paul currently lives in Amherst, MA, where is teaches music and runs a concert series. The last I heard of Julius Lester he was also living in Amherst, but that was several years ago. He is a Professor Emeritus of African-American Studies and Judaic Studies at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, as well a the author of many books. Carolyn Hester tours with her two daughters, and they peform at the Peoples' Voice Cafe in New York City about once a year. Matt Jones lives in New York City and has been part of the local folk scene for many years. He has been seriously ill lately, and I visited him in Saint Luke's Hospital earlier this month. I believe Eric Andersen lives in Norway. He is still touring, and I've seen him here in New York three times in the past five years. Several people on your list have, of course, passed away. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Kurt Foster Date: 10 Oct 10 - 06:41 PM I've seen several references to my Father Pat Foster. It's nice to know he is remembered. I thought I would provide the details of what happened to him Pat passed away at age 61 in 1990 in Seaside CA at his Mother's home of a sudden heart attack after years of alcohol and tobacco abuse. As those who knew Pat, he could be a very "difficult" person. When drinking he was downright unpleasant and when sober he was at best miserable. Pat and my Mother divorced when I was a baby due to their being arrested in LA in regards to child neglect and abuse. I looked him up and finally met him when I was 14 years old. He was living with his then Wife Harriet in Sausilito CA and by that time he had pretty much stopped gigging. When I turned 18 we took a road trip in a VW bus to Yellowstone and we played some impromptu sets in a few small bars and bistros along the way. Pat was drinking quite heavily and trip ended when he wound up in the hospital in Yellowstone from a pancreatic attack. He went on to live many more years that he was supposed to spending his last years in the persona of a Catholic Priest of the American Catholic Church in the Salinas and Monterey area. His ashes are buried next to his Mother Hazel and his Uncle Robert Greene in the cemetery overlooking the lighthouse at Pacific Grove CA. I had the opportunity to produce and record Brownie McGhees final record just before Brownie passed away and in passing I ask him if he had know Pat. He said nothing but he gave me such a dirty look, I decided to drop it. Those who knew Pat probably understand. He was a great talent but he wasted it. He led a tortured existence due to some very bad experiences in the service of the OSA as a teen and I am comforted that in his passing he is finally at peace. Kurt Foster |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 10 Oct 10 - 11:01 PM to Kurt Foster, Thanks for telling us all that about Pat. I never met him but his music really did hit me where I've lived; the graphic songs from history---his renderings of California gold rush ballads--those brought him alive for me. In that sense, I'm glad I got to know him. The tune he had for "The California Boy" is the one I used for the Wisconsin lumber camp ballad called "The Pinery Boy." That good tune made the song quite popular there in Wisconsin and in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Those two songs along with "The Sailor Boy" --- from Britain---all had the same tale to tell; but the manner in which the "boy" made his living changed with the geography and culture involved. Again, thanks for taking the time to set us straight. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 11 Oct 10 - 02:28 PM I met Pat Foster on one occasion, back in the very late Fifties or very early Sixties. He came to Seattle looking for work singing. We made a few suggestions of places he could try, then one fellow I knew offered to put him up at his apartment. He didn't seem to care to mingle with any of the local singers at all. Kind of aloof. The friend later said that Foster never left the apartment, apparently expecting local impresarios to come looking for him. Never did check out the places we suggested. Then, my friend said that Foster rolled up his sleeping back, stuffed it into his back pack, picked up his guitar case, declared Seattle the nether orifice of the world, and left for other parts. A "difficult" and fairly unpleasant person indeed. A few weeks later, the fellow who ran the Folklore Center in Seattle's University district discovered that he had a record of Pat Foster in stock (Riverside, I think, but I'm not sure). He played it for me. Pat Foster was a darn good singer, and the record had some good stuff on it. I kind of got the impression that, in a way, he was his own worst enemy. Too bad. Sorry to hear about your loss, Kurt. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Gandalf Date: 19 Nov 10 - 07:34 AM Know Don Crawford well...we had a common friend and in the early 70s he appeared on a PBS special called 'The Session" in addition to releasing several great albums. In fact, WoundedBird records has re-release three of them on CD and they sound as fresh as they did when they were released in the early 70s. Wish I knew where he was now...last time I heard anything about him was years ago when he was in Denver. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,guest Date: 24 Nov 10 - 12:26 AM Any info on Dorothy Callison of W. Va? I heard her on an Oscar Brand SSA program. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Iberus Hacker Date: 25 Dec 10 - 02:49 PM As I remember, he introduced himself to me as Iberus J. Hacker. I met him in the late 60s / early 70's in Chattanooga. He was quite a character, but very talented and cared for humanity. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 25 Dec 10 - 10:03 PM A quick update: I went to visit Matt Jones at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York Cty earlier this week, but he was in a deep sleep. He has been hospitalized for several months already, and he looks like a shell of his former self. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: sheila Date: 26 Dec 10 - 01:48 PM Guest Morgana (23 Jul 10)- Matt McGinn died in 1977, due to a fire. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Judy Hensdke (is still around) Date: 26 Dec 10 - 02:05 PM I don't know if she counts as little known but Judy Henske (High Flying Bird- pre Richie Havens) Wade in the Water, Salvation Army Band) Hooka Tooka (see my link about a new interpretation) is still around. She is still touring (a little( and he is a racious and seductive as ever.Not bad for somebody in her 70's. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Jon Marchett Date: 01 Jan 11 - 02:42 AM The Queen City Balladeers sang backup for the Mitchell Trio in their 1960's concerts in OH. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 11 - 08:45 PM Looking, looking....... what happened to 60's folk singer Judy Bright ????? Seems that at her Music on DOT, she was in good company with Bob Dylan, etc. Any music available anywhere?? Sherry |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Thomas Stern Date: 12 Jan 11 - 09:45 PM looking for Judy Bright, or any other out of print LP - look on eBay, GEMM, musicstack, or google for other record dealers. Best wishes, Thomas. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,magnettejake Date: 30 Jan 11 - 11:27 PM Haven't seen too much about SoCal in he 60s--lots of us tried to be folksingers. Here are some really little knowns: Melinda Rinker (now a prof at stanford), George Ball (who wrote Baxter's Flatpicking Manual), Steve Stapenhorst (AKA S. Stapen, S. Horst and S. Forest); Owens, Bob and Carol (from Texas--Owens Castleman had some success); Tim Morgon; Tom Carvey; Al Ellington; the Green Valley Clodsfrom Pasadena. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: NY Pinewoods Date: 02 Mar 11 - 09:35 AM Save this date! New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club (Folk Music Society of New York, Inc.) presents North American Urban Folk Music of the 1960s A Celebration and Tribute Saturday • October 22, 2011 1:00-10:00 PM Doors open 12:30 PM Confirmed participants: Alix Dobkin Jerry Epstein Luke Faust Bev Grant and the Dissident Daughters Charlie Ipcar Lisa Null Anne Price Jerry Rasmussen Peter Stampfel Heather Wood Other performers to be announced once confirmed. Schedule: 1:00-2:30 PM: The Great Folk Scare, an Overview of the 1960s 2:45-4:15 PM: Hoot in the Afternoon Round Robin – Part 1 4:30-6:00 PM: Hoot in the Afternoon Round Robin – Part 2 7:30-10:00 PM: Evening Concert Hosted by: Elisabeth Irwin High School – LREI 40 Charlton Street New York, NY 10014 Between Varick Street and Sixth Avenue www.folkmusicny.org |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Frank White Date: 20 Mar 11 - 12:49 AM Hello out there! I moved from Brisbane, Australia to Montreal in 1965 which spelled break-up for a young Brisbane group called Babayaga Trio (predates other groups of this name). Also in the trio were Murray Uhlmann (deceased) and Ray Gurney (very active in the Aussie folk music scene, in Sydney). The Montreal Folk Workshop became my favourite haunt from 65-69, and I launched a one man band act there (more energy than finesse, but it was fun): guitar, maraca (in running shoe), harmonica, kazoo and whistle. ... Flamenco jazz these days. Let's hear it for the lesser known from Moose Hall, 1960s! |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Art Thieme Date: 20 Mar 11 - 08:28 PM RE: JUDY BRIGHT. She is in and around Evanston, Illinois these days. (I talked to her last week.) For many years she taught school. Sadly, that Dot Records LP was the only one she ever did put out. My copy is long gone. I did manage to put it on a cassette -- along with a few live things by Judy at the No Exit Coffeehouse--circa 1960s-70s. She helps her husband, Mike Stein, put out the magazine called "Film Fax" which is devoted to some of the strangest science fiction films, interviews ephemera, flotsam and jetsam that I've ever seen offered anywhere. Actually a couple hundred thousand DVD reissues of films that only cult devotees could like. Still, I enjoy looking through Film Fax just to see what films I would never ever want to purchase. ---- As you can see, I am at a loss for words to describe the niche this magazine fills. To say it is science fiction is accurate, but also, saying that is a disservice to the really good Sci-Fi films that they feature also (sometimes). Also, Judy Bright (her maiden name) is, and has been, Judy Stein for many years. Back in the 60s I loved her music. BUT Dylan had nothing to do with that record. (He wasn't there then either. ;-) The hamonica was played on the song Tumbalalaika by Judy's then agent Jerry Adler---whose brother, Larry Adler, was a solo harmonica player of much repute a decade or two earlier.. Hope this helps you folks looking for her. Art Thieme |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Bruce Yasgur Date: 03 Apr 11 - 07:13 PM Hi, All. I'm still a little-known folksinger, alive and well in the Philly area. Minor correction: Max was my cousin, but was certainly old enough to have been my uncle. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: NY Pinewoods Date: 11 May 11 - 09:13 AM Updated information! Folk Music Society of New York, Inc. (New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club) presents North American Urban Folk Music of the 1960s A Celebration and Tribute Saturday • October 22, 2011 1:00-10:00 PM Doors open 12:30 PM Performers: Jeff Davis Alix Dobkin Jerry Epstein Toby Fagenson Luke Faust Bev Grant and the Dissident Daughters Charlie Ipcar Pat Lamanna Lisa Null Anne Price Jerry Rasmussen Peter Stampfel Happy Traum Heather Wood Schedule: 1:00-2:30 PM: The Great Folk Scare, an Overview of the 1960s 2:45-4:15 PM: Hoot in the Afternoon Round Robin – Part 1 4:30-6:00 PM: Hoot in the Afternoon Round Robin – Part 2 7:30-10:00 PM: Evening Concert Hosted by: Elisabeth Irwin High School – LREI 40 Charlton Street New York, NY 10014 Between Varick Street and Sixth Avenue All-event rates (afternoon and evening): General admission: $40 FMSNY or LREI member: $30 Child or F/T student: $20 Afternoon only or evening concert only: General admission: $25 FMSNY or LREI member: $20 Child or F/T student: $15 This event is now on Facebook. Please click here and log in if necessary. More info at www.folkmusicny.org |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Don Firth Date: 29 May 11 - 01:13 PM ? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Mimi Morissette Date: 02 Jul 11 - 03:45 AM 1962-1963 Dinky Town Circa. I recently heard from Clark Moffitt AKA Clark Maffitt who is living in Martha's Vinyard where his daughter owns a restauarant. I was engaged to him in that era after I met him at the Scholar in Mpls. His rendition of The First Time made me fall instantly in love. I also remember having Maxine Sellers and Josh White Junior come to have dinner at my apartment where the landlord called my mother to have me evicted because of their racial differences. Don't know what happened to Peter Seagraves. I could use one of those 60s rent parties how so many of us survived in the early 60s. Hmmm I think I partially sold out from Beatnik to major land developer! I still am a Lass from The Low Country looking for my Lord of High Degree. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dave Hard Date: 24 Aug 11 - 01:31 AM Hey Folkmusicgirl & Deljeanne (Adele Assante) Contact me on Facebook so I can get you copies of the music Adele and I did back when...I still play banjo and guitar solo and with two folk groups here in Boulder. Does anyone else remember playing the Tete-a-Tete and the Ballad Room? Or the open mics at the 47 with Bill Staines? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dave Hard Date: 24 Aug 11 - 02:20 AM Does anyone remember the guy who played 12-string guitar on PBS late at night. He started doing topical stuff when Mark Russell (piano) stopped doing his wonderful Tom Leher(sp.)-style songs. One of the unknown guy's songs was about religion "I don't know, I don't know, I haven't a clue which way you should go....." and I'd love to find the full lyrics. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Don Wise Date: 24 Aug 11 - 09:19 AM Some of us who started out in the late 1960s have stayed unknown, not so much because of going into hibernation but rather through moving away from the UK. The hibernation came later with the realisation that the level of air pollution in the bars etc. was deleterious to my health. Of course, not belonging to the 'London scene' didn't necessarily help either. So now here I am, still outside the UK, with a lot of songs I've written over the years, most of which have never been sung in public, creeping out of hibernation- smoking has been banned in bars etc. and so singing in public is once again an interesting and enjoyable option. Two years ago I discovered that Mr. Gladstone's Bag used to sing one of my songs(The Bakewell Witches).Pity I never got to hear their version.Coope,Boyes and Simpson have also recorded a song (The Uttoxeter Souling Song) which I exhumed from the archives and made a tune for- I wonder if they realise where/who the song comes from? Too much blowing my own horn? Possibly, but at my age I don't feel like being particularly modest any more! Who remembers The Garden Gnome Ceilidh Band (the UK original)?? Don |
Subject: Bonnie Dobson was born November 13 From: Abby Sale Date: 02 Nov 11 - 08:29 AM Bonnie Dobson may have been little known and did retire from folk song many years back...BUT, I believe she was a fine singer and fairly influential among those that did know her. Her records are on CD now and still good. Please PM or e-mail me if you have her (London, perhaps) e-mail or other contact. I'd like to send her a card. Thanks. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 02 Nov 11 - 10:00 PM As oldhippie posted up above this 1993 interview had her at the "Philosophy Department at the Berwick College of the University Of London" but I think that should be Birkbeck College -- you could try sending an enquiry to: office@philosophy.bbk.ac.uk. There's also a nice biography here. —BK |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: balladeer Date: 06 Nov 11 - 10:29 AM I don't think Bonnie Dobson qualifies as "little known" ... there were a handful of household names and then there were the Bob Gibsons, Len Chandlers and Bonnie Dobsons, who were known to everyone who travelled in 1960's North American and British folk circles. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: JohnSc Date: 10 Feb 12 - 11:17 PM Add Tia Blake, who recorded a beautiful album in Paris in 1971. She was from Columbus, GA. Here music appears on YouTube and Spotify |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 22 Mar 12 - 12:41 AM does anybody remember a group called "we?" or something like that - two guys and a girl - she had an incredible voice - one or two albums, then she died, group disappeared - i think they did a version of len chandler's keep on keepin on |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: iancarterb Date: 22 Mar 12 - 08:32 AM GUEST Dave Hard asked, about 5 posts back, from August 2011, about a singer of The Agnostic Hymn. I believe that would be MIKE NEUN, whom I met at a sing about 20 years ago in Suquamish WA here in the Pacific Northwest. He was working as a comedian, including his own songs and pretty good 12 string chops, on cruise ships. I'm glad to be reminded of him, and if I can find one of the tapes or CDs I bought from him I'll be pleased to hear them again. Very funny and very nice guy. Carter |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Marc S. Silber Date: 10 May 12 - 03:58 AM Yes, Bruno Wolf was originally a guy named David Simon from Great Neck, Long Island. I knew him first in the Village through a girl named Wendy Shore and through Perry Lederman, both of whom I knew at the Univ. of Michigan in Ann Arbor. David was a rather comical guy and bright and played guitar a little I think and had a harmonica. He later got into health foods and was selling these from a push cart and maybe even had a restaurant in the East Village. Then he was in Jim Kweskin's Jug Band where he sang and played harmonica. After that I do not know what happened to him although he was already talking about Scientology. It seems the surviving members of Kweskin's Jug Band would know more about David Simon. I am still friends with Jim, Geoff, and Maria and will ask them. I will be performing in a FESTIVAL over Memorial Day celebrating he Fiftieth Anniversary of the DENVER FOLKLORE CENTER and will see Jim and Geoff there. I am just finishing my CD # 7 by the way Keep on Singing, Marc S. Silber (www.marcsilbermusic.com) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 13 Nov 12 - 01:00 PM I owned and loved the Serafyn record, which disappeared in the early 60's while I was vagabonding through Europe... along with two or three other albums my folks blamed for my dropping out of suburbia and academia. I've never gone back, now live bouncing among Cape Cod, St John and Connemara... " through hollow land and hilly land"...always wishing I could hear just once more Serafyn's SONG OF THE WANDERING AENGUS if anyone can help me find and have this magical voice back in my life I'd be ever grateful. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 13 Nov 12 - 06:26 PM Here's a good discography and here are a couple recordings I like: Donovan Judy Collins |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: bobad Date: 13 Nov 12 - 06:36 PM You can download the album with that song on it here http://playitagainmax.blogspot.ca/2009/06/seraffyn-of-love-of-war-of-many-things.html. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,999 Date: 13 Nov 12 - 06:50 PM "if anyone can help me find and have this magical voice back in my life I'd be ever grateful." I might be able to do that. How does one get in touch with you? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 11 Jan 13 - 09:10 PM We can add to the list television actor Pernell Roberts in his pre-Bonanza days. Click here to hear the title track of his 1963 folk song LP, Come All Ye Fair and Tender Ladies. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,www.ciscohouston.com Date: 17 Jan 13 - 05:23 PM Hey Art-- I would love to hear those Cisco tracks. Can that be arranged????? Jim Clark |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jan 13 - 10:11 AM I haven't seen this film so I don't know if any little known singers were included, but this is a new thread: Greenwich Village: Music that Defined a Generation. Reviews are posted in the other thread. SRS |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Rick Heilbrunn Date: 26 Jan 13 - 03:05 PM I happened across these threads while doing some research on my father's old coffee house, The Interlude Cafe. My father was the Max Heilbrunn that was mentioned by Steve Suffet in a post about the Interlude. Name was close but it was almost 50 years ago. I would love to know more about the Interlude from anyone out there is cyberspace. Steve- your memory is amazing. As I am sure most know, the Kitty Genovese murder was pretty much the end of that incarnation of the Interlude. I am pleased to see that the old roots are still soaked in coffee. I actually have a few of the dishes that my Dad used in the store. Unfortunately he died in 1974 but he would have been touched by the memories of his beloved Interlude. Any information will be great appreciated. Rick Heilbrunn |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Suffet Date: 08 Nov 13 - 11:05 PM Once again, here is some totally shameless self promotion on behalf of two little known '60s folk singers! My singing partner Anne Price and I will be performing at the Peoples' Voice Cafe (Community Church, 40 East 35th Street, New York City) on Saturday, November 23, 2013, beginning at 8:00 PM. Both she and I had digital albums released this year, and this concert celebrates both. Please follow this Facebook link for more information. --- Steve Suffet |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,mightbetomt Date: 26 Nov 13 - 03:46 PM Anybody know what happened to Michael Fairbanks, a guitarist/folksinger from Maine in the 70s/80s? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Carol Ragusa Date: 03 Dec 13 - 12:26 PM Responding to a question about the Washburn house on Root st in flint, mi. These were my grandparents. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,PAUL LEEE ARNOLDI Date: 31 Dec 13 - 12:00 PM YES, I AM ACTIVE ,WRITING AND SINGING, PICKIN'... 310-710-2276 PAULARNOLDI.COM |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST Date: 31 Dec 13 - 12:38 PM http://paularnoldi.com/contact.html |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Dave Hard Date: 10 Feb 14 - 03:35 PM Who was the guy who played 12string guitar on late night PBS in the 80's? He sang satirical songs ala Marc Russell (who preceded him). |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 11 Feb 14 - 02:34 PM Does anyone have any knowledge about Pat Foster? The above is quite a comprehensive list. Wow! I'll tell you about someone who you don't know, who in my opinion is one of the best folksingers around today. His name is Chick Marston and he was a former fisherman from Gloucester, Mass. He plays a good guitar, lots of blues and ballads and is modest. He's married to a lady who sings very well named Ellen Ford, an alto who can belt out a tune with the best of them. Barbara Barrow and Micheal Smith deserve to be mentioned. His song, "The Dutchman" is a classic. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 11 Feb 14 - 02:40 PM Did anyone mention my old friend John Cohen from the New Lost City Ramblers? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: BK Lick Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:26 AM Stringsinger asked "Does anyone have any knowledge about Pat Foster?" On Oct. 10, 2010 his son posted this (click and wait patiently for a long scroll ) and the following two posts from Art Thieme and Don Firth also have some information. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Vashbul Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:40 AM Here is a link to an interview and performance from the last day of 1959, on WBZ/Boston. Billy Faier and Seraffyn the Wandering Minstrel play, sing and talk about folk music. They were in town to play at the Ballad Room in Copley Square with Joan Baez. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B02qyukZ6WQwRFpJUG9UQVpBR1k/edit?usp=sharing |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Sharmagne Date: 01 May 14 - 01:13 AM Arkie and Cool Beans. I met Jamie at the Troubadour in L.A. at the Elton John concert. He wrote the song "Late Night Countess" about me. We began a correspondence and I went to visit him in Nottingham, NH just before he sold his farm around 1973. I have not seen him since. Please let me know if you ever find him. He used to be listed in the phone directory under General George Custer. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Julian S. Date: 27 May 15 - 07:40 PM Mike Slossen (sp?) is on the list, and I've wondered what happened to him. I believe he was out of Texas, where he played at one time with Jerry Jeff Walker, before Bojangles made a star of Jerry Jeff. Mike was on the road for several years, and then got drafted during the Vietnam War. He went AWOL and decided to move to Sweden. The night before he left I was with him at a Reverend Gary Davis gig in a church in Greenwich Village. Maybe Judson Memorial. The year was about 1968. Any updates would be welcome. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,# Date: 27 May 15 - 08:06 PM I think the spelling is Mike Slosson. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Don Day Date: 29 May 15 - 07:12 AM Does anyone miss Ellis Holiday? No, I didn't think so. Don |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST, DTM Date: 29 May 15 - 07:50 AM I used to be a big fan of the late Tim Rose until I discovered the scuzzy way he shafted Bonnie Dobson out of her due credit for 'Morning Dew'. Shameful from a man who initially planned on becoming a priest. Some people, huh. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Thomas Stern Date: 23 Apr 16 - 10:45 AM Anyone have further information about Laura Weber ?? I see 2 LP's: Folk Guitar-beginner; More Folk Guitar-intermediate privately issued Were there others ?? one post mentions 4 books - what were they ??? I see this one: Laura Weber and Virginia Duncan A Series of Beginning Lessons in Folk Guitar, (Folk Guitar with Laura Weber) Produced by KQED San Francisco, 1965 an obituary from November 1995 from SFGate... Laura Weber, a music teacher whose folk guitar lessons were a mainstay of public television for many years in the 1960s and '70s, died of cancer Sunday at Kaiser Hospital in San Francisco. She was 70. Mrs. Weber's two TV series both were produced at KQED in San Francisco. Her first was Time for Music, a children's series that was aired for six years. Her second, Folk Guitar with Laura Weber, was at one time carried by 52 TV stations across the country. A native of New York City who attended the Oberlin Conservatory of Music, she was a private teacher in San Francisco and was on the music faculty at San Francisco State University. Survivors include a sister, Eleanor Meyer of Hayward; a daughter, Valerie Cartwright of Sunland; and two grandchildren. A memorial service will be held at 4 p.m. December 4, at Knuth Hall at the S.F. State College of Creative Arts. Donations can be sent to the SFSU Foundation/Laura Weber Fund, c/o the Music Department, San Francisco State University, 1600 Holloway Avenue, San Francisco 94132. There is another performer LAURA WEBER-CASH, a fiddler and singer. It may be this performer who is credited as 'Laura Weber' on a CMH CD of Civil War Songs, and a couple of Larry Perkins CD's ????????????? Thomas. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Felipa Date: 02 Jul 16 - 07:08 AM Mark Ross, if you want to catch up with Lisa Null, I see she is one of the organisers of this year's Getaway I remember Bill Vanaver gigs at Cornell U., Ithaca, NY; got an lp, learned some songs from it. It's mentioned in this thread he had a heart attack 10 years ago, so it's good to know that Bill and Livia are still running the Vanaver Caravan http://vanavercaravan.org/ |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,Rick11 Date: 06 Oct 19 - 03:25 PM How about The Talismen on Prestige Records - Album “Folkswingers Extraordinaire” (7406)? Based out of New Jersey from 1962 to 1968. Single “Off To The Sea” hit the pop charts in Billboard. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,HiLo Date: 06 Oct 19 - 06:11 PM Whatever happened to the band Malcolm’s Interview ? I have one album, we’re there others. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Big Al Whittle Date: 07 Oct 19 - 05:43 AM Great thread. Americans were so animated back in 2007. Must be the influence of Trump. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Jim Carroll Date: 07 Oct 19 - 08:13 AM Wonder if anybody knows what became of Manchester's Maria Louden She was a very promising member of out workshop in the 1960s but we lost touch when I moved too London One of the best women singers I remember from those days was Terry Griffiths, who residented at The Pack Horse with Terry Whelan, Harry Boardman, Tom Gilfellon, et al Last time I saw her was at Terry's funeral Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 07 Oct 19 - 02:24 PM Brother John Sellers Al Grierson Bob Gibson Ernie Lieberman Betty Sanders David Sears Martha Schlamme Derroll Adams Michael Saul Art Rosenburg Woody Wachtel K.C. Douglas Hally Wood Bess Lomax Hawes Billy Faier Sonja Savig Rick Ruskin Bob Atcher George and Jerry Armstrong Peter and Isabel Gardiner Sam Kennedy Al Meyers John Herald Valucha Buffington Ginny Clemens Effie Siegerman Tommy Geraci Pat Foster Fleming Brown Bob Carey Walter Raim Jerry Silverman Millard Lampell Ethel Raim Jack and Jan Tangerman Molly Scott Sis and Gordon Cunningham Cisco Houston Osborne Smith Laura Duncan Rosalie Sorrels Faith Petric Stu Ramsey Paul Clayton Rich Dehr and Frank Miller Marcia Berman Terry Gilkyson Terea Lee Katie Lee Glenn Ohrlin Gail Gardner Granpa Jones Brother Oswald Stringbean George Pegram Guy Carawan Boomer Castleman Lowell George Andy Stewart Frank Robinson Philip and Pam Boulding Stan Rogers Archie Fisher Schlomo Carbach David Amram Michael Jonathan Lorraine Hammond Ellen and Irene Kossoy John Carbo Milt Okin Rick Lee Bill Croft Somebody will surely know about at least three of these folkies. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Jim Carroll Date: 07 Oct 19 - 03:09 PM I saw Derroll Adams in Liverpool when he was fundraising for a very ill Woodie Guthrie back home - he made a couple of albums of Woodie's songs for Topic There'd one of the best interpretations of 'The Whore's Lament I've ever heard by Hally Wood somewhere on our shelves Guy Carawan did a very early Topic Record with Peggy Seeger Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Stringsinger Date: 09 Oct 19 - 11:43 AM Derroll and Jack made many appearances in Europe. I knew Derroll, a kind, generous man, encouraging and no nonsense. His expression onstage was often, "Cut the shit, Jack!" |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: PHJim Date: 11 Oct 19 - 07:06 PM I apologise for not reading all of the thread. Some of the folkies I saw in Hamilton coffee houses and Mariposa in the early sixties were: Al Cromwell, Judith Orban, Malka & Joso, David Rea, Eric Hoard, (Both David and Eric backed up Ian & Sylvia) (David backed up everyone) Josh White Jr., Big John McManaman, (of the York County Boys) Merrick Jarrett, Terry Whelan (although his singing partner, Gord Lightfoot became quite famous, Terry is still relatively unknown.) |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: The Sandman Date: 13 Oct 19 - 05:36 PM PETE AND MARION GREY.Anybody remember them |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,anon xx Date: 21 Jan 22 - 01:04 PM @royH i don’t know if you’re still interested, but i actually do know what happened to the haverim boys (well one of them) - martin shoben is my grandad. if anyone has any old videos of his performances i’d be eternally grateful - i’m looking for one for his 85th birthday…he recently found a copy of a gig he did in ‘63 and was so happy so i’m looking for another if anyoen has any information? |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: GUEST,John from "Elsie`s Band" Date: 22 Jan 22 - 10:42 AM I haven`t any recordings but I do remember we booked The Haverim at "The Railway Tavern", Catford, SE London circa 1965/6. |
Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers From: Dave Sutherland Date: 23 Jan 22 - 03:44 PM Sorry to report but RoyH (Burl) Roy Harris died in 2016. The Haverim are featured on the complete series of Hullabaloo DVD which was released a couple of years ago. |
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