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Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)

DigiTrad:
A COUNTRY SONG
BLOODY ROTTEN AUDIENCE
BOGLED
DO YOU KNOW ANY BOB DYLAN?
FRONT ROW COWBOY
GLASGOW LULLABY
IF WISHES WERE FISHES
LEAVING NANCY
NO MAN'S LAND
NO MAN'S LAND (3)
NO USE FOR HIM
NOBODY'S MOGGY NOW
NOBODY'S MOGGY'S LAND (No Moggy's Land)
NOW I'M EASY
SAFE IN THE HARBOUR
SILLY SLANG SONG
SOLDIER, SOLDIER
THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA
THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA (2)
THE SONG OF THE WHALE
WHEN THE WIND BLOWS
WILLIE MCBRIDE'S REPLY


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Subject: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Feb 02 - 10:50 PM

Around this time for the last few years I've tried to locate lyrics/chords for this Eric Bogle song. Can anyone help?


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Subject: Plastic Paddy
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 01:43 PM

I saw Eric Bogle do this once with his band (in Orillia, Ontario) and it was hilarious! Anybody got the lyrics? It doesn't seem to be in the Digitrad.

I'd also like the lyrics to his song "He's Nobody's Moggy Now". It's even funnier than "Plastic Paddy".

Eric did a great show when he was in Orillia a few years ago. Anyone seen him lately?

- LH


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Subject: Lyr Add: HE'S NOBODY'S MOGGY NOW (from Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,HP
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 01:53 PM

Can't help with 'Plastic Paddy', I'm afraid, but here are the words to 'He's Nobody's Moggy Now'

Somebody's moggy by the side of the road.
Somebody's moggy who forgot their highway code.
Someone's favourite feline who ran right out of luck
When he ran onto the road and tried to
Argue with a truck.
Yesterday he purred and played in his pussy paradise.
Decapitating tweety birds and masticating mice.
Now he's just six pounds of raw mincemeat
That don't smell very nice.
He's nobody's moggy now.

All you who love your pussy, please try and keep him in.
Don't let him argue with a truck for the truck is sure to win.
And upon the busy road don't let him play or frolic.
If you do, I'm warning you ...
It could be cat-astrophic.
If he plays on the roadway, I'm afraid that will be that.
He'll give one last despairing miaow, and a sort of squelchy splat.
And your pussy will be slightly dead
And very, very flat.
He's nobody's moggy,
Just red, and squashed and soggy,
He's nobody's moggy now. Miaow.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 01:58 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! It's even better than I remembered! Thank you, HP.

Now we gotta get "Plastic Paddy"...

- LH


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: John Nolan
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 02:12 PM

How about Paddy Plastique's lyrics of To a Postie?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 05:38 PM

try a P M to Sooz she sings it

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: The Pooka
Date: 14 Jul 02 - 06:27 PM

Googling reveals Plastic Paddy is on Eric B's album "Mirrors". Haven't found lyrics; none on his homepage. Don't know the song, bet is *is* funny, oughta get it. (Only, uh, sounds like it might hit a leetle bit close to home.... :)

--Pooky Plastique


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Subject: Lyr Add: PLASTIC PADDY (Eric Bogle)
From: jacko@nz
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 04:16 AM

PLASTIC PADDY..Eric Bogle

He's just a plastic Paddy singing plastic Paddy songs
In a plastic Paddy pub that they call the Blarney Stone
There's plastic shamrocks on the wall there's guinness and green beer
And a sign in gaelic above the bar which says god bless all here

His guitar sounds like a wardrobe(?) and it's out of tune at that
His singing voice it ranges from a sharp to a flat
He just desecrated the Holy Ground with a bark-like Velvet Band
Sang Seven Nights Drunk and now he's sunk The Irish Rover with all hands

Cos he's just a plastic Paddy singing plastic Paddy songs
In a plastic Paddy pub that they call the Blarney Stone
There's Aer Lingus posters everywhere from pretty Irish Scenes
All peaceful and Idylic and very bloody green

He's done awful things to Molly Malone and the fair Rose of Tralee
He's murdered Carrick Fergus and poor old Mother Macree
He's thrashed his way through Galway Bay and the Wild Irish Rose
And if he starts singing Danny Boy I'm going to punch him in the nose

When Irish Eyes are Smiling and The Mountains of Mourne
In the search for Celtic cliches(?) man has left no stone unturned
Till he embarks upon The Harp That Once Through Tara's Halls
Accompanying himself on the bodhran which takes a lot of courage

Cos he's just a plastic Paddy singing plastic Paddy songs
In a plastic Paddy pub that they call the Blarney Stone
Now he's just sung in his mother tongue, the ancient Irish erse
And cleared the pub completely by the forty-second verse

Cos he's just a plastic Paddy singing plastic Paddy songs
He's started singing Danny Boy so it's time that I was gone
And just one thought comes to my mind as I stagger through the door
Where are you when we need you Christy Moore

Jack


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 08:05 AM

Hmmmm...a couple of odd lines there. Who is Christy Moore?

Anyway, thanks!

I would love to see Eric do that one in one of the Barrie, Ontario pubs on St. Patrick's Day. It would probably start a big brawl that would damage his guitar...and other valuable parts, and clear the house... :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: vectis
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 09:08 AM

What's the tune Jacko??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 09:50 AM

Little Hawk -

http://www.christymoore.net/

Christy came to Sydney 5 years ago & gave a great show & as my friends knew him we ended up in the Green Room for a singing session. It was a wonderful evening. He was supposed to come back in 5 years, so maybe sometime soon?

http://www.windbourne.com/ebogle/

I have 5 of Eric's CDs & Plastic Paddy isn't included so it must be one one of my tapes. But the words sound right to me (apart from 'wardrobe' & I can't even guess that).

Plastic Paddy is on a tape - copied off 'Mirrors' some years ago, so I don't have details - & the line does sound like "the wardrobe". The line "His singing voice it ranges from a sharp to a flat " has to be heard to be believed.

Sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 10:06 AM

Yes, I could not for the life of me figure out how that line would scan properly to any rythm...

Thanks for the info, Sandra.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Wolfgang
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 10:29 AM

Just for the fun of it, those who enjoy 'Nobody's Moggy' (Bogle's song for cat haters) usually also enjoy Little Gomez (Bogle's song for dog haters).

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Paddy Plastique
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 10:30 AM

When did that Bogle fella hear me "performin'" ??? Jeez -he caught me on a good night :->
Anyone any leads on the tune ???


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 11:36 AM

Thanks for the above info and chatter!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Sooz
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 02:03 PM

Thanks for the reminder Gerry - haven't sung it for ages. Will look it out and relearn it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 06:03 PM

Hi Sooz that would be great but wait till i'm in the audience to hear it

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: The Pooka
Date: 15 Jul 02 - 06:42 PM

Me too, Paddy Plastique. We should form a duo. You take the sharps, I'll do the flats. / Looks like a great song. Have to try & get that "Mirrors" album. I learn everything by ear y'know. Perfect pitch HAHAHAHAHA

But come yeee baaaaaaaaaaack when summer's in the meh-heh-dowwwww, or when the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-leee's hushed & white with snowwwwww....

(Pooka hops off stage in a hurry, before finishing an encore of "Plastic Jesus")


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 10:03 AM

Pooka, you have that line down perfectly!! You're an absolute natural for the song. With Paddy you'd be unbeatable.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 03:08 PM

Both the dog and the cat song are really funny, but the dog one wins slightly as you get that great visual of when dogs are stuck together after, and the male is a Chihuahua, and female a St. Bernard... LOL!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 04:01 PM

I think the cat song takes it by a whisker...due to the fabulous lines:

"Yesterday he purred and played in his pussy paradise.
Decapitating tweety birds and masticating mice."

- LH


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 08:16 PM

Pooka, you didn't get in the bit where you cut "hushed" extremely short, then wait a minute-and-a-half before continuing with "& white with snowwwwww...."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: The Pooka
Date: 16 Jul 02 - 09:58 PM

Haw haw haw....THANKyou, Sandra in Sydney...'tis a woman of good taste y'are...yeah, The Paddy & Pooky Plastic Revival is gonna take 'em by storm, with a shillelegh under our arm & a twinkle in our eye...but Snuffy, yer right begob, I gotta work on that part...still, do you know what I'm goin' to tell ye, wait'll you hear our "Mother Machree", not a dry eye in th' house begorrah...And I will heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeear, though {{{soft}}} you tread uh-buh-hove meeeee..... :)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 08:47 AM

Thankyou, Pooka & best wishes for the debut performance of the The Paddy & Pooky Plastic Revival.

Sandra woman of good taste (good signature that, maybe I'll use it at work instead of the boring Departmental one)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 02:06 PM

chords, anyone?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 02:39 PM

Reminds me of a beagle/Saint Bernard mix I knew up in Maine. Beagles are nothing if not optimistic. Sometimes they even succeed.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Snuffy
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 07:39 PM

Chords? No thanks, I'm trying to give them up.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 11:27 PM

G'day all,

Sandra asked if I could check out the Eric Bogle Songbooks for the tune ... I did ... No luck! I don't think he has put out a songbook for a decade ... or more ... and this song is not in any of the three I have.

I do have a friend who sings this (when he is not being employed as a "Plastic Paddy"!) but I think he just learned it by osmosis - and he is too busy trying to earn a crust as a singer and a luthier to spend much time trying to convert it to dots and scratches. I will see if he has some sort of tune/chords ... when we cross paths next.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 17 Jul 02 - 11:50 PM

I'm Irish American..usually I take things with a grain of salt, but I find the expression offensive and I find the song and the whole attitude it conveys offensive. People can sing what they like and if they like those songs hurray for them. They are what are parents and grandparents sang and what we grew up singing. Makes me one I guess. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 18 Jul 02 - 06:41 AM

G'day mg,

The song's not about the Irish singing and enjoying their own songs ... it's about people with no connection or Irish heart singing "Irish Songs" that are mostly commercial output of Tin Pan Alley for drunken tourists in tawdry commercial bars in other parts of the world ... with crummy, fake "Irish" decor and an American franchise.

The bloke I mentioned has Irish ancestry ... and enjoys Irish folk music and song ... but not the crap he has to sing in this sort of "Plastic Irish" pub.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Paddy Plastique
Date: 18 Jul 02 - 07:19 AM

Ah, I'm forced to go away for a couple of days thanks to France Telecom cutting me
off and there's a 'Plastic Paddy' controversy on the boil... good stuff. I wouldn't
find the term offensive - in fact I extend it to all people born elsewhere who do
their best to let their genes shine through - some of my favourites are PPs -
Spike Milligan, Shane MacGowan, Swift - then all those fine men that have sweated their guts out
on a football pitch in the green - Heighway, Hughton, Houghton, Sheedy, Cascarino,
Aldridge, Galvin, MacAteer, Holland, Breen... the list is endless...
As to this duo, Pooka, you learn all the other ones, and I'll get working on 'If ye're Irish
Come Into the Parlour' - I believe it's an old music hall standard about ethnic sperm banks :->
Who mentioned 'good taste' back there ???


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 18 Jul 02 - 08:31 AM

Ah Plastique Paddy!

I remember watching an episode of an English TV programme about a rambling chef (or was that a rambling BBC programme about...?) ... The Fat Man goes to .... Anyway there was a segment done in Argentina ... and he visited the descendants of Irish settlers who went to Argentina in the late 19th century.

I still have, etched into a sensitive spot in my brain, the image of two dark-eyed senhorinas ... in Irish National costume ... singing a wondefully Argentinian/Spanish-accented If You're Irish, Come into the Parlour!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Hecate
Date: 18 Jul 02 - 10:20 AM

yes, for people from further afield, the term 'plastic paddy' normally applies to people doing unpleasant and unnatural things to Irish songs, in modern pubs that have been decked out to look 'authentic' for the purposes of luring in tourists. There's good money to be had doing plastic paddy, or so runour has it, which is why a lot of people get sucked in. I think the name probably also covers that really trite 'easy listening' kind of recording you get where decent songs are turned into lifeless mush.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 11:47 AM

I went to the Christy Moore site referred to above. It's a good example of how not to write a site. It assumes that I know all about him, but I don't. All I can glean from the site is that he's middle-aged, married and owns a guitar. (That's all from the picture.)

Oh, yes, he does concerts of some sort.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST,Charles Atlas
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 10:22 AM

Some narrow minded dum dums called me a racist for using the term Plastic Paddy on another thread!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: mg
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:34 PM

I wouldn't call you a racist for using the term but I find it offensive..I love all those songs mentioned in the song, a song I find at the very least silly. Why shouldn't people listen to music they like and why shouldn't others play it for them, and why do people find such delight in making fun of them. Anyone wants me to sing any of that kind of song to them just call me up. 360-665-4999 Pacific Time. Toora loora loo. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: mg
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:36 PM

I will say more on the subject. People somewhere in the world are on the verge of being blown to bits. It could be us, could be our relatives, could be people in Mexico City or Paris or Seattle. So why would anyone even care about what song someone gets a little pleasure from? Sing Irish Eyes at my funeral if I have one. Bye. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: rock chick
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:37 PM

You beat me to it Charles I was going to put something on this thread concerning the other one, we who know you know you did not mean it in a derogative manner, if this person cant take a bit of banter then maybe they should think twice about what threads they put on concerning Bodhran players, those people took it and didn't sulk.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: Gloredhel
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 06:54 PM

That song is hilarious!
If you're looking for something in the same vein, check out Robbie O'Connell's song You're not Irish


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy
From: GUEST,Shame Us O'Plastick
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 05:09 AM

I find people that use these forums to whinge offensive. I find people who find things offensive, offensive.

So What!!!

We're all gonna die when it's time for us to die!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Bogle)
From: GUEST,Mexicam
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 01:33 PM

Tequila


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,Duke Of Edinburgh
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 06:53 PM

Aaagh!... this is terrible racism - us poor Irish have enough trouble already, without people using the term P****** P******

I'm off to the Woodman. DON'T join me!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,diddler
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 07:20 PM

We certainly won't!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 07:34 PM

Mr Atlas ...

It was the context wot got you your menchun in dispatches.

You miss the point as always.

Bogle didn't.

Take the hint.

Get educated.

Or desist.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,celtaddict
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 07:16 PM

Eric Bogle dedicated this song to Danny O'Flaherty, who is most definitively NOT a "plastic Paddy" but who owns and sings at O'Flaherty's in New Orleans. (As Eric points out, he is a Scot from Australia in an Irish pub in the French Quarter in the U.S.) Danny O is from Connemara, grew up speaking Gaelic, and is known for his intensity and passion about his homeland and its music, to the point that he has offended on occasion musicians and customers alike with his zeal about what is "real." The one song that is positively verboten at O'Flaherty's is "Danny Boy" and when visitors (it is after all a tourist town) request it, the regulars are quick to tip them off. Of course even a musician of prodigious talent and endless zeal still has to pay his bills so he, like many others, sings a mix of the truly traditional (often in Gaelic), the contemporary, original tradition-based songs, and of course the ones the patrons pay to sing along with. Besides "Mirrors" Eric also recorded it on "LIVE: i wrote this wee song" which is a 2-CD set available from his site and definitely a Desert Island Disk.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,celtaddict
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:27 PM

Along with Robbie O'Connell's "You're Not Irish" (above) there is also Noel Nash's "Make Me Cry" which, among the traits indicating the singer addressed is not Irish are lack of freckles, sobriety, and not singing "Danny Boy."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Hawker
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 05:41 PM

Mary Garvey,
I too love those songs, I do not think Eric is taking the Michael out of the songs or stating a dislike for them, I visited the fair Emerald Isle, incidentally, home of my great grandmother. We did the tourist thing and visited Waterford, Tralee, Cashel, Doolin and dear old Blarney in the Ring of Kerry. Blarney was the plastic paddy town to me. I cringed at the piped music in every shop and pub and EVERYTHING seemed to be green! It was a place for tourists, and I think this is what Eric is writing about. In England, for me it would be Blackpool (though I love the place myself!) and in Cornwall, I would give that honour to Newquay.
Cheers Lucy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Celtaddict
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 08:27 PM

Lucy, if Blarney bothered you, I strongly suggest you stay out of Killarney and Bunratty!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 08:06 PM

sorry to disturb your disussion ... .-)

fount your thread looking for the words of "plastic paddy" and just could'nt stop reading each posting.

i'm neither irish nor australian nor something like that ... just an austrian person (no, we dont't have kangaroos 'cuase we are located in the heart of "good old" europe)looking for the words. i like that fine sarcasm in the song ... there are a lot of peolpe here trying to perform the "real" irish tunes and they get a lot of money for their performances 'cause the audiance are jsut plastic paddies too.

to giv them the right answer i wanted to learn the song by myself just to find out if they are really understanding or stupidly reproducing without any thought.

wishing you a good time,

web-erin


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Joybell
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 08:23 PM

Oh Mary, and a few others, I thought I was alone. I don't care if Eric Bogle is talking about a real or supposed singer, or certain songs which may or may not be authentic. What offends me is the attack on a working musician. I think it's tacky and unprofessional. If I don't care for a performance I can walk out, but I don't stoop to slagging another performer from the stage either in song or by comment.
                               Joy in a sweetness and light mode.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,the old pooperoo
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 08:46 PM

speaking of Plastic Paddies, what about Plastic Soldiers? please refresh my memory: what war did EB fight in, and has he managed to get good prostheses for his missing legs?
keeping my spirits up by listening to a recording of Jazz Gillum doing "Baby, I'm Crazy 'bout you". now THAT'S folk music.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ATHENS 2004 (George Papavgeris)
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 04:27 AM

Children, children, don't mistake a caricature for the real thing. EB draws a caricature in PP, and his mickey-taking of the caricature surely shows his love for the real thing.
But let's not be to ready to draw our shelaleigh. As a Greek, my race often gets caricatured, sometimes unfairly, sometimes brilliantly:
a) Did I find the Aussie film "Wog Boy" fair in its showing all Greeks as ne'er-do-wells? No. But was the film funny? Yes, I split my sides.
b) Once in a Chicago Greek restaurant I noticed that an awful lot of flambe dishes were arriving at various tables (flambe does not exist in Greek cuisine - roasting over open fire or coals yes, but flambe not). When I mentioned it to the restauranteur with surprise, he was most keen that I shut up in case I spoil his marketing tricks. He had a caricature of a Greek restaurant. Did I exclaim and spoil his business? No, of course not. But I smile every time I remember at all the Chicagoans going home and trying to emulate Greek cuisine by putting their houses at the risk of beign burned down.

The Jewish caricature themselves all the time. They don't hate themselves!

And finally I offer here a (rather lengthy) caricature of my own race that I have written, with the advent of the Athens Olympics 2004 as the excuse - and before anybody says anything, I AM a Greek Macedonian, my quip is only at my race's chip-on-the-shoulder over the use of the name.

Athens 2004
(c)George Papavgeris, July 2001

The Greeks are known far and wide as people that are full of pride
And also given to good wine, as well as food and groping;
But now all that we will forego, for in 2000 and 4
To people from around the world our doors we will throw open.
The Olympics are for everyone, all races, creeds and nations come,
Bolivians, Germans, Russian, French, Indians and Esthonians.
We're open-minded and fair, all nations this event may share
Although we hope no-one will dare invite the Macedonians.

We know that some athletes take drugs as pills and syrups, even jabs
And they will try all sorts of tricks to enhance their own performance,
But Greeks will have no need of that, our boys will train and give up fags (GP note:"cigarettes"! although...)
We'll sing our lads to victory, we won't depend on hormones.
So our National Anthem for to sing, to make the Olympic Stadium ring,
You might well see us practicing with yodels and with gargles;
Don't worry, it's not another anti-NATO demonstration, but
You might be excused for thinking that we lost our Elgin Marbles.

Now, in the Marathon you know, we were the first there, long ago,
Anyone else who thinks to take the gold is just myopic.
The Bounty of Marathon is ours, Maltesers, Galaxy and Mars;
Our boys won't Flake, we'll also take all Yorkies, Twix and Topics.
As for the rest of the events, we'll not be greedy, we are gents,
We 'll have plenty of chance to show our calibre as losers.
Our lads will eat and drink the night away and all will fear the sight
Of our weightlifting team led at the head by Demis Roussos.

To the occasion we will rise, though it's true that we're disorganised
And it's well known that we have had problems with preparations;
Our brand new airport's now complete, but try our bus queues in the heat,
And our famous taxi drivers' speed will give you palpitations.
It's true that we have more church bells than guest rooms in our few hotels,
Though that's not counting the ones we rent out by the hour;
Our hospitality's well known, our home will simply be your home;
That's if you have the dollars, or you're in for a cold shower.

It's true that in the midday sun the Olympic Stadium is no fun
And Athens air in summertime can be full of pollution.
But me and some good friends of mine discussed this o'er a case of wine
And we have come up with a smart and elegant solution:
We'll make a deal with all airlines to fill up all returning flights
To take the Greeks to cooler climes, where summer is no bother,
And we will leave the Athens sun to all the tourists – do have fun,
Just leave the keys under the mat and tell us when it's over.

Opa!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 07:46 AM

G'day Joybell,

Wee Eric knows the music world ... and its working singers ... very well. I know several who have to be "Plastic Paddies", at times, to pay the rent. They know the truth of this song well ... and love it.

And they know there are people out in the audience who would squeeze them dry for another drop of phoney sentimentality ... and they still have to pay the rent!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 04:51 PM

I remember I wrote a dreadful New Year song for Jimmy Logan, which was sung at midnight from Westminster Bridge as Big Ben rang out the New Year. I wrote it (I was asked to write it) when I didn't have enough cash to pay for a pound of potatoes and I remembered the words of George Bernard Shaw 'You can't call yourself an artist if your wife and children are starving in an attic'. I got an advance on royalties of £5.00, that was in 1966, in London. I have some sympathy for plastic paddies -- we had our own Plastic Mac, the nickname for Harold McMillan.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: Joybell
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 05:05 PM

Yes Bob, I know. I've been a restaurant singer for many years - about 30. We do what you might call theme concerts when required - Christmas, St Patricks Day, Solstice, Scottish Dancers' night, Senior Citizens' week. We've both written parodies which had a short shelf-life and sometimes done other singers' parodies. I'm not down on Eric Bogle particularly - I've performed on the same stage a time or two, and I've sung a few of his songs. The thing is that while I understand "Taking the Mickey" (we Aussies do it all the time) I can't help but hear this particular song as nasty. On stage we are vulnerable - especially the kind of stage Bogle's "Plastic Paddy" is working. Folk clubs and festivals may be quite a different matter because then we are with friends. I don't personally like it used there either. The problem is that a song does not stay among friends. This song gives audiences another handy nasty lable for use against a singer. But thanks Bob, your words are always kindly and calm.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Plastic Paddy (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 06:25 PM

it is a nasty song...righteous and condescending of people who just want to have a pleasant night out and sing some familiar songs..and I have never in my life heard anyone sing Tara's Halls..though I would love to..and I wish there were a bar here so I could go and sing along with some of those songs. mg


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