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Subject: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:11 PM Well, I'll kee[p- it short 'cuase I have to... I've been having back problems and went to a massauge therapist who seriously messed me up by putting pressure in my right armpit which set off a series of spasams down my right side, my right arm and has left mje with numbness in two fingers... I'm now on muscle relaxers, heavy duty anti-imflamatories, hot and cold compresses five times a day, electrical stimulation to the affected muscles and physical theerapy a couple times a week... I should have listened to the P-Vine and just gone to PT to begin with... I hate it when women is right... Well, that's all the pudder time I can stand... Back to the heat pad... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:17 PM Oh man, Bobert you done gone got your self in a mess now boy. Don't rightly know if I should put my opinion of most chiropractors in writing, but I do know the pukka Physio, trains a lot longer for the job, so knows their way around best. Anyway, I hope you get some ease for that spasm, and try drinking from smaller glasses to reduce the strain on your back. Hoping you get better quick. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Teribus Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:33 PM Snap Bobert same thing happened to me today, I went see the bone man and he tugged me about for a bit, it was my left hip that causing the trouble, got to go back to see him again tomorrow, says its going to be a long fight - but as you know I'm used to those - wish you well with yours its not a thing you'd wish on your worst enemy. By the bye Bobert heard your CD the other day - you're one hell of a good performer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:37 PM Here's from another woman you seldom heed: AQUATIC REHAB. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:37 PM Now looky here -- I might be comin' to deecee to git an award (it'll be a while, tho) and iffen yer still messed up an' we can't git together I'll be right disappointed. Now you git yer act together or I'm gonna go over LUray way an' whack you upsida yer head! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Megan L Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:41 PM Hey Rapaire if yer gaun ower there tae gie the glaikit gomeral a skelp on the lug gie him wan on the ither side fur me an save Granny the air fare. Mind oan Bobert ony fool kin poke a bear wie a stick but if ye want tae survive leave the pokin tae someone whit kens whit a bear luks like. Translations can be got via LtS Meg :p |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:41 PM I'm so sorry to hear that Bobert. I'm having PT now for a knee which was injured when I plunged into a hole in a Presbyterian parking lot. (It was dark and the hole was in the shadow of the curb.) Isnt it a drag? The exercises are so-o-o boring. But when I'm at the clinic, I relieve that some by starting conversations with the others. Maybe you can do the same. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Feb 08 - 06:50 PM Here ya go, Bobert. This'll cheer ya up. WASHINGTON (AP) -- Amid a discussion of trade in 1973, Chairman Mao Zedong made what Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger called a novel proposition: sending tens of thousands, even 10 million, Chinese women to the United States. "You know, China is a very poor country," Mao said, according to a document released by the State Department's historian office. "We don't have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands." A few minutes later, Mao circled back to the offer. "Do you want our Chinese women?" he asked. "We can give you 10 million." After Kissinger noted Mao was "improving his offer," the chairman said, "We have too many women ... They give birth to children and our children are too many." "It is such a novel proposition," Kissinger replied in his discussion with Mao in Beijing. "We will have to study it." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bill D Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:10 PM We should have sent them 20 Billion birth control pills. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:14 PM Sorry to hear about your problem, Bobert! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Severn Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:17 PM We told you to go to a masseuse, not a mysoginist! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:40 PM Aw, Bobert, I yam sorry you are hurt; but you are a young srat and still rubbery, to a degree, so heal fast brother. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Feb 08 - 08:06 PM Well, thankee all fir the support... And advice even if half o' it don't make a lick o' sense... I don't need a million Chinese women... I need better drugs... Anyone have any extra oxicotin they ain't got plans for??? Sheet fire... I gotta gig a week from this Saturday... The PT lady thinks I'm 50/50 fir it... I'd take 20/80... Man, I ain't been this messed up since I thought that I'd impress this certin 13 y6ear old girl by jumping of my parents roof into a wading pool with 6 inches of water in it... That was along time ago but I still remember the pain... Ouch... That's my limit... Sheet... All this political stuff goin' down and I'm done fir the night... You, T... Hope you get mended up, bud... We is gettin' behind in our wrestlin'... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:00 PM (((((((Beaubear)))))) gently. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:05 PM Been there, done that, twice. It's NO fun at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bee Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:17 PM Massaged into spasms, Bobert? What kinda Masseuse were you seein'? Really, I felt sympathetic twinges all across my lower back reading about your problem, having spent three weeks flat on my back from a muscle spasm once, followed by half a year of not picking up anything weighing more than five kilos. Do everything the physio people tell you. Good luck. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:27 PM Bobert, you're going to meet a whole bunch of nice people. They have names like Olga, The Lash, and Madame Shackles. Do what they tell you. In fact, you will have no choice BUT to do as they tell you. I've had PT several times and it's not to bad after you get used to the pain, the handcuffs, the whips, the gags, the blindfolds, and people in leather underwear and high-heeled boots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Leadfingers Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:36 PM to the pain, the handcuffs, the whips, the gags, the blindfolds, and people in leather underwear and high-heeled boots. ME NEXT !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Leadfingers Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:38 PM Seriously Bobert - If I turn up at Getaway and there ISNT a Blues Session I will Sue !!!!!!! GET SORTED !!! NOW !!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 14 Feb 08 - 09:52 PM Awww, Bobert - And it's almost plantin' time! Take care friend, and be well soon. Janie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 14 Feb 08 - 10:07 PM I know its uncomfortable but use those cold compresses! They will stop the muscles spasms and let your body slide back into shape. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:04 AM Hell, Bobert. In all the time you was campig-nin, I kept telling you not to wave so hard to your supporters. They could see where you was standing, so what's the point????? The best thing ta do is not shovel any of that ice and snow off your tractor, and have the P-vine do all yer chores. You just be careful while you are practicing them blusey minor seventh chords. They can be tough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bert Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:34 AM Things your quack won't tell you. Lay off the caffeine, the last thing you need is something that is going to wake up those nerves. If you take pain killers of any kind, go to bed and stay there. If you move around while you are on pain killers you will only make matters worse 'cos you wont be able to feel that you are straining things more. Don't keep your wallet in your back pants pocket 'cos that will skew your spine (actually a chiropractor did tell me that one). Find a small pillow or cushion to put in the small of your back when you are sitting. Especially in the car. WHen you are picking something up, bend your knees, don't bend at the waist. This takes practice but it is worth it. Relax and get well soon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Feb 08 - 02:20 AM I feel for ya' Bobertz 'cause amongst the various other surgeries I've had is back surgery. Now while what you got may be different and with a different solution and all than what I had, may I humbly make an outlandish suggestion? I mean this may not be the popular thing to do but have you considered going to see a real fuckin' doctor? No, not a urologist specializing in sexual perfomance, I mean a real honest to gawd person with a specialty in maybe, say, orthopedics? Ya' know, muscles are controlled by nerves and all and both muscle and nerve have more than a passing acquaintance with bone............spasms might be more than muscle related and all................ Real doctor.............wow, what a concept...................... Just a thought................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Feb 08 - 08:55 AM Ya know, Bobert, Spaw might be on ta something there. I mean about seeing a boner. I'm going to make an appointment with one as soon as I can cuz my left knee is giving me fits and starts. You should also start having the neighbors bring the 'shine to ya instead of walkin' up into the hills, dodgin' revenoors and all. Down were you live you should be able to put the quart jars on the back porch each night and pick up full ones in the mornin' in time for breakfast. Ain't nothin' like Lucky Charms and 'shine for breakfast. Builds ya up strong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Feb 08 - 10:16 AM If you want to take Spaw's advice one step further and get some of the moves of the chiro-quacker without the pain, find a DO. Doctor of Osteopathy. They turned out a lot of them here in Fort Worth. They are medical doctors with the extra hands-on training. I hurt my back one time (it hurts just to remember crawling to the phone with only a two-year-old in the house with me) and we didn't have a regular doctor yet. I remarked to the now-ex on our way to the emergency room that too bad we didn't have someone local to see first. On impulse we stopped at the neighborhood minor emergency clinic, run by DOs. Amazing--the doctor said "I don't get a chance to do this very often," turned me on my side, put a hand on my shoulder and on my hip and did this twist - Pop! went something in my spine. Had me roll to the other side, hands on shoulder and hip again, and Pop! Pop! and it was instant relief! I took motrin for a few days, no bed rest and muscle relaxants, just taking it easy. The back was tender, but back in position. The relief was instantaneous. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: PoppaGator Date: 15 Feb 08 - 10:19 AM Hang in there buddy; sorry to hear about this. I'm sure you'll get over it and be back to your old self soon enough. Sorry I didn't notice this yesterday, but here's my git-well greeting today, better late than never. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Big Mick Date: 15 Feb 08 - 10:50 AM My father has been disabled for years as a result of a chiro quack adjusting his spine when he had a ruptured disk. At least a DO is a medical doctor. But I am with Spaw on this. Go to a real, honest to Skippy, specialist. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: PoppaGator Date: 15 Feb 08 - 11:49 AM I got the impression from the opening post that Bobert has seen an MD, at least since the incident with the message therapist: "I'm now on muscle relaxers, heavy duty anti-imflamatories, hot and cold compresses five times a day, electrical stimulation to the affected muscles and physical therapy a couple times a week..." The first two things he mentions would seem to be prescription medications, no? They'd only be available (well, only be legally available) through a licensed medical doctor, or at least a nurse-practitioner working within the recognized medical establishment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Feb 08 - 11:51 AM Got nothing against DOs -- they do good work. As for chiros...well...they fly south in the winter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: john f weldon Date: 15 Feb 08 - 11:57 AM Years ago I had a back problem & went to a therapist. I did the exercises & it got worse, then I stopped the exercises and it suddenly went away. I have no good advice to give other than reading H L Mencken's wonderful essay "On Chiropractic". Good luck.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: peregrina Date: 15 Feb 08 - 11:58 AM go for anything that stops the muscle spasms now and then find an Alexander technique teacher--you will feel (temporarily) weightless after a lesson, you won't have had your bones crunched or your muscles mauled, and eventually you'll learn to keep the problems away yourself. I swear by it. Good luck recovering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: gnu Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:36 PM Hey. Maybe some a them Chinese women might know the accupuncture? My Bro told me last night he is gonna go fer it on accounta he has a bad back and my ex told him that her friend's husband went fer the needlin fer the same problem and now he is fine. I told Bro to go fer the PT on accounta it worked for me when I had the same problem and I didn't have no needles stuck in me nor eat no ground up bear gall bladder ner nuthin like that. Told him I got as much faith in them needles as I do in them gyroprackteers what twist ya all around. He hung up before I could comment on the ex. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: john f weldon Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:51 PM Qi is a great word for scrabble, but for backs it's probably buncombe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Feb 08 - 01:53 PM Yeah, folks, I beenm to the real doctor... Right after going to the massauge therapist who screwed, ahhhhh, messed me up... The real doctor is the one who is havin' me go thru the PT... I think I have improved a little since yesterday... Maybe not... I was able to get in and drive the car this mornin' to fetch materials for a guy who is sanding the hardwood floors in the house I've built... No, I made the guy at the paint place load 'um into the car... Right now I can't quite get my right arm around the front of a geetar so there ain't no geetar pickin' 'round here... Well, I have reached my pudder time limit... Back (ha) to the ice... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Feb 08 - 03:07 PM Ice is for drinks (if you want it), not backs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: SINSULL Date: 15 Feb 08 - 03:24 PM And you say P-Vine suggested you skip the massage for a PT? But you didn't, right? Well, I hope you feel better anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Richard Bridge Date: 16 Feb 08 - 07:35 AM My back is not what it once was - but after I damaged it by being optimistic (resulting in a nastly little man with red-hot pliers who lived in my left buttock) I saw a respected sports therapist who achieved nothing, a series of doctors culminating is a full-body imaging job in Harley street (insured!) who found a little bit of disc damage but achieved nothing, several osteopaths and finally a chiropractor who suggested losing weight and getting fit, which I did (all gone back to where it was now). Lots of clunking metal about in gymns and I was fine. Must have been about 30 years ago. I just have to be a bit careful about how I lift things, but not how much I lift. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Tweed Date: 16 Feb 08 - 08:46 AM Get outta spaz quick Bobertz. Work on getting your chi back on track. You have somehow short circuited yoreself and disrupted the natchal flow obv life flow electrons and tripped the breaker. Try not to mix concrete or dig drainfield ditches while in this condition. You keep forgettin' that you're 3 or 7 hundred years old so go hire immigrants from yore local Home Depot parking lot to do that stuff. They are the hardest working people on the planet and will be glad to do it. Aslo, the ice is your friend while in extreme spaz. Heat is the enemy and only enlarges blood vessels in the muscles allowing more pressure to form around your spazzed out sections and will produce even more swelling. Feels good for a while but will make you worse in the end. I recommend finding a frozen pond and laying out in the middle til just before spring thaw. Love you brother and get well soon. I know it ain't no fun being stove up. Yores, Tweed |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Feb 08 - 09:09 AM Hmmmmmm, Tweezer... My pond is froze up purdy good... Think I'll just mozy on down there... Man, I juts don't know about the heat and ice arguments... The PT lady says that if the heat is a wet heat that's good as ice but you have made some purdy intersecting observations here so, okay, I'll try the pond... Maybe take my heat pad down there with me so I can alternate 'tween 'um... Maybe a couple Chinese womenz and a six pack of Iron City... Hmmmmmm??? Maybe I can get the P-Vine to unroll the 200 foot tension cord and take my little TV down there, too... And a couple old issues of Mad magazine... And, and... Okay, that's 'bout my Mudville limit... I can onhly do about 5 minutes before the stove gets on me... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Tweed Date: 16 Feb 08 - 09:18 AM ahh hmmmmm....heat pad on the frozen pond???!!?? Okay, sounds good to me Old Hoss, but don't go to sleep out there for very long or yore troubles will habv just begun. Tell the Peavine to poke you with a stick from a safe distance every once in a while or put a line around your ankles and drag you to some fresh ice with the Kubota. It'll be good for both of you. Keep you from drowning in ice water and Peavine'll enjoy pokin' you with a stick anyhow and give the old gal a chance to get back at you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Feb 08 - 11:29 AM First off all, Twwezer, me and the P-Vine gotta a deal... She stays off my Kubuta and I stay the heck off her treadmill... As fir drownin' in the pond... The sumabich is only 'bout 3 feet deep at the deepest so if I plan on drownin' in it I better take along my rather worn book entitled "How To Drown Yerself In a Bath Tub" by Anna Easee... Headin' down to pond now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 16 Feb 08 - 12:34 PM Well, Bobert, ol' buddy, here I was just thinkin' o' ways to mock your pain last night. Next thing I know, I up and sneeze and pull a muscle in my ribs. I sneeze a fair amount, but now it's just no fun. Every time I do, it feels like Chongo is pokin' me in the ribs with one of those stubby monkey thumbs of his. Do you know if he has one of those invisable cloak deals from the movies? I thought think kinda thing would slack off after I got outta politics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Feb 08 - 12:48 PM Well that's it then Bobert. Iffen you'd git outa politics this wouldnta happened. See, Big Dick Cheney is inside that mountain hideout of his'n and he's sending P-waves (that's P for Pain) at you cuz you badmouth him and W alla time. You get offen his back and he'll leave yers alone for a while. He's doin' this cuz W told him that he was gittin' bad vibes from you since you were also badmouthin' W. These here P-waves are a new secret weapon that Big Dick just thoght up and yer the first person he's tried 'em on. Git outa politics and you'll be okay, or at least as okay as you ever are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Feb 08 - 01:48 PM P-waves, Rap??? Well, humppppfff!!! Time to go stick another pin in my Dick Cheney voodoo doll... Sumabich put p-waves on this ol' hillbilly he better have packed his lunch... Ahhhh, sorry Skivz 'bout yer perdicermint but right now I'm about a couple or three sneeezes away from intensive care... Last time I was this soved in was back when I was six years old in the polio ward... Keep away from pepper... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Feb 08 - 01:53 PM You shoulda kept Chongo on security, Bobert. This would not have happened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 16 Feb 08 - 02:03 PM Well, could Chongo, packing the appropriate heat, gumshoe down to where Mister Dick is, and exercise some extreme prejudice on his situation? Make like erasers and rub him out? Hmmmmm? It would help Bobert 'cuz the voodoo would stop... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 16 Feb 08 - 02:15 PM Well, Used-to-be-candidate-fer-preserdent Bobert, I don't want you worrying about my perdicermint. That part's just fine. It's my ribs that's hurt. Anyway, I know a lot of folks whose diet is salt-free for they health. I guess we'll be the first folks on a salt and pepper free diet for a time. We'll be like the cutting edge of medicine. Well, I can't stay here jawin' and moanin'. I gotta get back to the job. It's "1/2 off Saturday" at the second hand store, and I gotta stand by the road and wear that big sign ta let folks know how cheap they can get black and white TVs for today. I sure miss my great job working fer you. You stop sneezin' too, okay. We'll be on the road ta good health together. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Feb 08 - 02:27 PM Them black 'n whites in comin' back, Skivz, so don't give 'um away... Yeah, folks wishing for the good ol' days is getting purdy sick and ired of what's happenin' on the color TV's and thinkin' how good things always were in black and white so don't let 'um go too cheap... Tell ya' what... If McWar gets elected them balck 'n whites will be worth a small fortune... Sho nuff will.. Heck, I'd even get me one so I could watch happt TV... Too bad I didn't put "Happy TVz in Every Living Room" as my campaign slogan... Maybe next time??? Oh yeah, LH... If Chongz would like to go by and say "Hey" to Dickhead Cheney, that'd be jus' fine... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 16 Feb 08 - 02:27 PM Sticking a pin in your Dick, would certainly take your mind off the pain in your back bro. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Feb 08 - 09:59 PM Bobert, my left knee is actin' up. I mean like painful, ya know? I'm doin' the ice/neoprene brace thing. Dunno what's caused it, but I sure don't like it. So I'm going to the Boner on the 27th to see why I hurt. But I kin still run for President and so kin you. Most Presidents ARE a pain, so havin' one that IN pain would be change. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 17 Feb 08 - 05:40 AM Remember, A Dick in the hand, is worth two in the Bush, Bobert! G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Feb 08 - 09:20 AM Right you are, John... And the WGSR agrees, as well... Meanwhile, it's like Day, ahhhhh, Eight of the intense stuff... Can't sleep with this stuff... Can't do much with the P-Vine (wink, wink) with this st5uff... Certainly can't work with it... Can't drive... Can't... Can't... And to make things worser, I ain't got no burnabale evidence either... Hey, Rap... Don't let the Boner give you no Boner... Get a second opinion... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Feb 08 - 01:01 PM Suspend yourself from the ceiling like a bat when you sleep. (It may require the purchase of an Acme Bat-Sleeping Harness.) The reversed flow of blood will set you right in no time, and your night vision will also improve dramatically. Bat Boy does this all the time, and he's been on the cover of a nationally syndicated magazine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 17 Feb 08 - 01:08 PM Little Hawk's exhortation does remind me of something that could be useful (These things happen, LH). Hanging heavily and limply from a chin bar can sort out a back. And it feels good; you can almost feel each segment of the vertabrae unkinking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Feb 08 - 01:13 PM Yeah, actually they do make a thing that you can hang upsidedown from by your feet. You get into the thing, place your feet in the holders, then shift your weight back a bit and it rotates you upsidedown, and you hang there for a bit. It is good for stretching the back out. I had one of those things for a few years and eventually sold it to someone else because I had no particular handy place to put it at the time. It was kind of bulky. Sort of like one of those forlorn exercise bikes you see standing in someone's basement collecting dust. I am sometimes sorry I did sell it, because it really did work quite well for easing out the back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: GUEST Date: 17 Feb 08 - 01:15 PM Dear Bobert, Don't buy anything made by Acme -their products have proven hazardous to the buyer every single time. Signed, W. Coyote |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Donuel Date: 17 Feb 08 - 02:09 PM I like Acme Signed Road Runner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Feb 08 - 02:11 PM It's a poor workman who blames his tools, Wile E. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Fortunato Date: 17 Feb 08 - 02:24 PM Hey Bobert, hope you heal up fast. best to MIss Peavine. cheers, chance |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Azizi Date: 17 Feb 08 - 03:04 PM Bobert, I hope you get well soon and very soon. Best wishes, your sistah/friend, Azizi |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Feb 08 - 08:49 PM Bobert, what you need is some of that...I dunno what its called, but a guy here sells it outa his van. Looks kinda like oregano, but it's a lot more expensive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 08 - 08:12 AM Yup, that's perxactly what I need, Rap... I think they call it Clumbian oregano... B;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:44 PM How is your back today, Bobert? On the mend, I hope. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Hollowfox Date: 18 Feb 08 - 05:10 PM Good thing I stuck my head in the door to see how everybody was doing. The $#@!-reduction candles - for you and P-Vine - will get fired up in about two hours when I get home from work. ay what you will about those chyropracters, one session with one of them, and my uncle Jim was a changed man. From 1-A to 1-Y on his draft card. (He explained that meant thet the Chinese Army would have to invade Cleveland before they'd call him.) Unplanned, but useful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 08 - 07:32 PM Eb, I'z still seriously messed up... Ain't worth a danged... Ben pushing two weeks now and the PVine has been talkin' about shootin' me... I even snuck out last night and removed the shells from the 12 guage... She's afraid of the 22/410 so I don't think she'd off me with that one an' I might need it to defend myself so it's still loaded... But nobody tell her that... LOL... Nah, not much happenin' toward gettin' back into the game... I cancelled my upcomin' Saturday night gig... First gig I have ever had to cancel in my life... But, like mah man Barak, I have hope... The PT lady says that we are gonna get it fixed and has me on lots of stretches which hurt put like they say, "No gain without pain"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: KT Date: 18 Feb 08 - 07:38 PM Aw....take care Beaudear.....thinking healing thoughts your way.... KT |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 18 Feb 08 - 11:59 PM Well, bobert, it must be catchy. I'm headed for physio because I have a dysfunctional SI joint - whatever that is. Every once in awhile I can't get up from a sitting position because the inside of my hip (pelvis) gets locked. I have to sit back down, twist and pop it back into place. As soon as its back in position, I have no pain. They say its because my butt is so saggy, that the muscles aren't helping to hold the SI joint in place. So now I have to build up my butt. I guess it could be worse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:17 AM Why do people here keep talking about chiropractors in relation to Bobert's problems? It was a massage therapist that he went to. Chiropractic and massage therapy are two different disciplines. Having had both more than a few times, I can tell you that they are very different disciplines...although both of them naturally require having some specialized knowledge about how muscle tension occurs in the body. I so far know about people who been messed up by treatment from... chiropractors regular MDs surgeons dentists radiation therapy chemotherapy massage therapy prescription drugs psychotherapy etc... I also know people who've benefited greatly from most of the above... (though I can't say for sure about the chemotherapy and the radiation therapy...but there are probably people who figure they've been helped by those too) Point being: Any form of therapy, no matter how good it is when done right, can sometimes go wrong, because not all practitioners are perfect...and they are not gods. They can make mistakes, just like the rest of us. I would not, for instance, swear off ALL dentists for the rest of my life because one dentist did a lousy root canal job on me...and I've heard some real horror stories about dentistry gone wrong, let me tell you. Scary stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: DougR Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:27 AM Jeeze, Bobert, nobody told you a Massage Parlor's not the same as a real Chiropractor? No way to compare the services received. Anyway, I hope you get better real soon. I wouldn't want you to be too infirm to vote for John McCain in the Fall! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:56 AM Don't worry, Doug! I'm sure he'll drag himself there for that, no matter how bad a shape he's in...even if he has to crawl to the ballot box. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 19 Feb 08 - 08:29 AM Two words, Dougie: absentee ballot... And, ahhhhh, I know this is going to come to you a a complete shock but I ain't votin' for McWar... Nor Hillary McWar neither... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 19 Feb 08 - 08:45 AM Of course you're not! You're going to vote for ME, so that I kin get all them great presidential retirement bennies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 26 Feb 08 - 09:02 AM Just a short update... This thing really sucks... After 3 weeks of PT, steroids, anti-imflamatories, stretching, heat pads, ice, prayin', watchin' way too much CNN an' reading ol' Mad magazines I'z still got this pinched nerve... I can't drive my tractor... I can't shoot my gun... I can't play my geetar... Worst of all, I can't chase the P-Vine around the house... Like I said, this thing sucks... Plus, after about 5 minutes at the pudder, I've had enough... That really sucks... But other than that it's kinda like the guy who yelled from the 86th story window of the Empire State Building to the man who had just jumped, "How's it going?" and the jumper yelled back, "So far, so good...." Nevermind... Crip B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: artbrooks Date: 26 Feb 08 - 09:12 AM Just think...you could be sick AND a Republican - then there'd really be no hope for you! Get better, guy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 26 Feb 08 - 09:22 AM Jeez Sidewalk man, that sucks. Sounds like ya got a long job on ya hands there. My condolences to the P-Vine, but remind her of the saying that, 'A man chases a woman, until she catches him.' So lay back, take it easy, and get better soon. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 26 Feb 08 - 10:17 AM Can't you find a decent chiro to unpinch the damn nerve for you? Sheesh!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 26 Feb 08 - 01:10 PM Well, Amos, ol' buddy... If I could, I'd have to sneak out at night after the P-Vine was asleep 'cause she thinks that they are quacks... I've been to a couple over the years that were... But they ain't all quacks... That might be my next move... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 26 Feb 08 - 01:21 PM 1. Wait until it's really cold and wet outside. 2. Go sit outside until you get pneumonia. They can cure pneumonia. Look around here in the mean time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 26 Feb 08 - 01:30 PM There are good oneas and bad ones, as in any practicing field; but they ar enot fiundamentally quacks, and all you need is to have that damn pinch shifted out over two or three visits and you'll know that for yourself. Treating muscles and bones and nerves as interacting systems is not quackery. NEither is trying to get a body to heal itself as much a spossible rather than be invaded with blades or outside chemistry. 'COurse every tool has its place in the armory; if you have really ruptured a disk, I doubt chiropractic can do much for you, but it sounds miore like a serious dislocation from what you have said. Get someone on it who understands dislocations and how to remedy them. Check out their patients for recommendations if you're worried abotu a bad one. Find a female one if you can, as they tend to be more understanding and approach things in a gentler gradient. Not always, though. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Feb 08 - 01:37 PM Oh, for heaven's sake! "Quacks" GAHHH! I have been getting chiropractic treatments off and on for the past 35 years. They have always been good. They have always been helpful. Every chiropractor I've ever gone to (and that's 10 or 15 of them by now) has been great. None has ever hurt me. All of them were very good at what they did and very knowledgable. I have never in my life heard such an utter load of crap about anything else in the medical field as I have heard from various uninformed people about chiropractors being "quacks". I want to kick someone when I hear them say it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: PoppaGator Date: 26 Feb 08 - 01:52 PM Dang, Bob, sorry this is still going on. I've seen several different chiropractors over the years, with results varying from pretty good to unbelieveably excellent. Some of the best have been the wackiest, if not the quackiest ~ i.e., new-age hippie types. My favorite ever was a Vietnamese guy, Dr. Ky (pronounced "Kee") who was licensed in the US as a chiropractor but was "really" an acupressurist. That's right ~ not acupuncture, but acupressure. And he didn't really press very hard at all; he find the right spot on your body, just barely touch it, and fix you right up. Sadly, his ground-floor office took about ten feet of water thanks to the levee failures after Katrina, and he hasn't been seen since. More recently, I've gotten very good results seeing a full-fledged needle-weilding acupuncturist, a young anglo-American woman. I had been walking around with a chronic sore shoulder for months, and three visits clearedit right up. It's been about a year now since my last treatment, with no recurrence. (Those tiny little ultra-thin needles, by the way, don't hurt at all going in.) If I were you, I'd lay off that CNN and watch the old movie channel (TCM) and lots of sports. Reality sucks! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 26 Feb 08 - 02:07 PM Well, gol danged, LH, tell me what you really feel... Awww, jus' funnin'... I'm gonna give this a couple more days and if I don't get no better my harp player has a good 'un over in Harrisonburg... Says the guy won't do anything unless I got recent xrays which I just had done so, we'll see... Meanwhile, I'm on my last day of steriods and havin' said that I guess that means I can quit waitin' for the Washington National baseball team to call me for spring trainin'... (But, I thought is was Vitamin B...) lol... As fir a woman quackterprac... Yeah, great idea, Amos... This is gonna look real good when the P-Vine catches me sneaking out at night to see another women... That is some seriously flawed California thinkin'... lol.... No tundra!!! If I wanted tundra I could just ask the P-Vine to lock me in the freezer... Which, right about now, she'd prolly be more than happy to do... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Feb 08 - 03:10 PM I had an excellent female chiropractor here in Orillia for a few years. She was also quite an athlete...competed regularly in the Triathlon. Unfortunately she sustained a bad back injury herself, and had to quit doing chiropractic, because it involves a lot of bending and lifting (of the clients, some of whom are very heavy people). What a shame! It was like seeing a great singer lose their voice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: DougR Date: 26 Feb 08 - 05:13 PM Maybe she should have gone to a chiropractor! DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 26 Feb 08 - 06:03 PM Bobert-- California thinking isn't bad if you include the omitted premises. In this case it would be having an open dialog to full mutual understanding with PVine so that you didn't HAVE to sneak out to go to the chiro!! Goodness sakes, man. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 26 Feb 08 - 06:13 PM She don't do California too good, Amos... Me??? Ahhhh, think I'll just sneak out to one, thank you, and save myself the chin-music... B;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 26 Feb 08 - 06:16 PM Well, danggit, former-used-to-be-soon-to-be-president Bobert. I was all ready to send one of them firm supporter messages ta help you get better. Then you go and admit that you was using those hemmoroids. I think that this is an insult to our national sport...politics. Just think of all those kids who will be going to sleep crying because of what you done. I may haffta shift my support away from my rascal to one of the other rascals. Hey, Maybe Chongo can do one of those chirobreakter deals on you. Then maybe you'll be feelin' good enough to go ta the senate hearing that's sure ta follow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Feb 08 - 06:22 PM Her husband IS a chiropractor, Doug, and a very good one, but there are some back injuries which even the best medical techniques, whatever discipline they may be a part of, cannot fully heal. And that, unfortunately, was the case with hers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Feb 08 - 06:30 PM Chongo does do back jobs on people, matter of fact...if they ask for it in the right way. He did one on Little Anthony Mazarelli just last week. Little Anthony used to be an enforcer for one of the south end Chicago gangs. He didn't respect chimps. Now he's got a new job...nourishing next year's fresh crop of grass at the local cemetery. I would not recommend one of Chongo's back jobs for your problem, Bobert, although he does offer a lifetime guarantee. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Teribus Date: 27 Feb 08 - 10:59 AM Sorry to hear that you're still suffering Bobert. I've now had about six sessions with the chiropractor and will hopefuly get pronounced as fit on Friday morning, the guy has been excellent. Hope you recover soon, best wishes. T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:06 PM Sheet fire... Wsa at the Physical Therapy today and the therapist was tryin' to stretch out somethin' and over did it and it felt like I had been shot at close range in the sholder with a pistol... She was horrified and, yeah, I screamed out mighty loud, and then director of the facility came into the room and as I sat there in agony it was decided that I needed to try somethin' else... So, now I am waiting for my insurance company to okay an MRI that my doctor says is next and we'll just go from there... This is 4 weeks now and I'm gettin' jus' a little sick and tired of it... Gig season begins in 6 weeks, I've got bookings and right now I can't even hold a geetar, let alone play it... Purdy danged depressin'... Plau, I ain't got no burnable evidence... That's the blues, folks, that's the blues... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Richard Bridge Date: 28 Feb 08 - 02:54 AM Bobert, I am sorry to hear of your mistreatment by the medics and near-medics. It does make me thankful for our NHS. When the present phase is over, maybe a contingency lawyer might be able to make you some money out of those who have harmed you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: jacqui.c Date: 28 Feb 08 - 09:31 AM Bobert - I just found this thread. Strong healing thoughts coming to you from Maine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Feb 08 - 09:51 AM Man, it sounds like you might have some ugly stuff, like a rotor cuff tear along with other things. Git that MRI done, and then you better stand by for some surgery. Don't sweat it, though. The stuff they give you for surgery is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD shit, man. I been there, and it's better'n any you buy on eth streets. Just watch the vicodin or oxycontin afterward. You'll need it, but don't let it rule you, ya know? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 28 Feb 08 - 11:33 AM I can get GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD stuff now, Rap, without the incisions... If the doc says that he thinks that operatin' is a good thing I'll tell him if that's so then he ooughtta go get it done to himself... I'll take a shot... I'll take a few pills... I'll do my stretches... I'll vote for Hillary (fingers crossed) but I ain't gonna let no sumabich cut me up.... jacqui, Thanks fir them warm thoughts... The MRI is fir next Thursday am.... That oughtta be 'nuff fun all in itself... Until then: Anti-imflamatories and lots of "I Love Lucy" reruns... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Feb 08 - 12:04 PM Blame it all on 'Desilu' Bobert G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Feb 08 - 09:42 PM Look, you can always get a second opinion. But if they gotta cut to make you better, let 'em cut. Now, if you want, I'll come out there and cut ya. But I don't use no painkiller 'ceptin' maybe a bit of 'shine and you gotta supply your shine. I'll give ya bullet to bite on, tho. I'll even spit on my knife to clean off some of the crap on the blade and dry it in my own personal armpit. Watcha say? I won't even charge ya nothin'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:47 AM Thanks fir the generous offer, Rap... If they say they wanta cut me, maybe you'd consider fillin' in fir me on the table??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 29 Feb 08 - 01:45 PM Iff'n you can talk 'em into doing some of that lippy-suckshun, I'll fill in fer you, Bobert. I could lose a few ponds. We could use some of yer campain money ter pay fer it. BTW Here's somethin' I never thought I could say on the cat: "100". It may be a cheap trick fer me ta use your pain fer that kind of cheap noteriyety. I guess that just the sort a guy I yam. P.S. I keep lookin' fer some wacky-backy for you, but there don't seem to e much around right now. Sorry. Iff'n youda got elected, we coulda changed that, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:58 PM I might be bein' cut, Bobert ol' buddy. This here knee of mine got a shot of cortisone and lidocaine on Tuesday and the swelling went down but it still hurts. Sometimes when I walk it feels like...well, make your hands into fists and then rub the knuckles together: it feels kinda like that. I think there's a buncha crap in there that should come out, maybe some repairs gotta be done too. See, I wasn't made to put up with pain. Pain don't do anything for me at all. Yeah, I know, you might be one of those who like to tied up and have Things done to ya, but it ain't my bag. Besides, wouldn't you really rather play yer gitter? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:22 PM Make them show you the pictures ahead of time to prove the need, Bobert, and before you leave make them give you any parts they took out to prove they done it. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:23 PM And make sure they use official parts, and none of your generic cheap replacements. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:29 PM Bobert, what you have been doing isn't working. It's time to do something else......possibly EVEN cutting on you!!!! Now, jes do it. You is a Big Brave Boy. P-Vine will even hold your hand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:38 PM Hey, wait jus' a dog-gone minute here, y'all... Jus' 'cause the drugs and the PT ain't worked don't mean that I need no cuttin' on... Maybe just a cortizone shot 'er two and I be back to my ol' self in a couple days... The MRI oughtta tell us what's what... I mean, I ain't like some overwieght couch potato, 'er nuthin'... Them folks is the ones they gotta cut up on to get 'um mobile 'nuff to make it to the frigabater... That ain't me... I'z a skinny guy... Too skinny even to cut on... That's me story fir now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:42 PM Your ol' self, surely you want to improve Bobert? G ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 29 Feb 08 - 05:16 PM You callin' me OH-bees?? There ain't nothin' fat about me 'ceptin' what's between ma ears -- and my wife told me that so it's gotta be true. She ain't hardly ever lied ta me that I caught her at. Seriously, if the MRIs show the need for cuttin', you can get a second opinion. But if the docs agree, let 'em whittle away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 29 Feb 08 - 06:26 PM Shoot, Rap... I din't call you fat... Okay, maybe yer wife did and maybe she's knows ya' better than me... An' yeah, anybody wanta cut me up gonna have to get the P=Vine's approval first and that ain't gonna be easy... She ainh't afraid of doctors 'cause her daddy was a doctor his ownself... And the P-Vine goes to my appointments just to keep them doctors walkin' the straight and narrow... Yeah, first one that threatens to cut on me is gonna find himself on the floor wonderin' jus' how a 130 pound woman can hit so hard... That's almost be worth havin one say, "Well, Bobert, I gotta cut on you..." Yazzir... Think I'd enjoy watching that little situation unfold... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Feb 08 - 06:32 PM Good for her (P-Vine). I am highly suspicious about the prevalence of a lot of unnecessary surgery in this society, Bobert, so I'm on your side when it comes to this one. Follow your own best instincts. Surgery is the LAST option, as far as I'm concerned. Human bodies can usually repair themselves over a period of time, given the right encouragement. Yes, there are some exceptions, of course, so if anyone wishes to remind me of that too...hey...I already know it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:11 PM Now, that's odd. My wife went to the doctor with me when I went in to have my knee looked at. She wanted to keep him on the S&N herself -- and not only has she had a LOT of very necessary surgery (cancer at 17, or 47 years ago), she's a lawyer. Do you know how afeared doctors are of lawyers??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: bobad Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:28 PM Don't ya just love the expertise of Mudcatters, hell the next time some know nothing surgeon tells me I need surgery I'm gonna tell him/her to hold on, I'm getting a second opinion from Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:39 PM Everybody's afeared of lawyers, Rap. ;-) And why do I see a bunch of uninvolved third parties trying to persuade Bobert to have surgery when he clearly doesn't want it, bobad? And when they aren't experiencing what he is experiencing, and therefore aren't in a position to make his decisions FOR him? That's what I'm objecting to here, not doctors. It isn't a doctor that's trying to persuade Bobert to get surgery here...it's some non-doctors on a frikkin' internet forum! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:48 PM Actually, I just said that whatever he HAS been doing is obviously not working, and it's time to do something else, and that MIGHT include a surgery....he shouldn't just dismiss it out of hand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:59 PM Right. I'll agree with that, Sorcha. So far, he doesn't seem very positive about the idea of surgery, but as you say, it might be an option. So might a number of other things. I've had a shoulder bothering me for, oh, a couple of months at least. Irritated rotator cuff. The chiropractor gave me some stretches to do each day, and I'm gradually easing it out and getting those irritated muscles to relax and settle down. As they relax more, they stop hurting. It's getting better steadily. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:08 PM Heck, Sorch, yer right... If I need surgery I'll juist tell the doc that I'm fonna either do it myself 'er have Rap do it... Heck, he even provides the bullet to chomp down on... Can't beat that, can ya'... But right now, cuttin' would be my last resort... I been thru lotta stuff in my life, including 6 months in a polio ward, and I ain't been cut on yet... Okay, if after I have done absolutely everything else, includin' chiroprators, acupunctureres, cannibus, medictation, PT, thi chi, and bowin' down to Mecca and I'z still messed up then I'll get Rap here to assist or supervise 'er whatever.. BTW, this little electrical tinglin' in my right hand is starting to grow on me... The pain sucks but the tinglin' is kinda different... I could live with it... Kinda like havin' ones fingers in a light socket... Nop, it ain't cool but it's different... Gotta go lie down now... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: SINSULL Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:17 PM No advice here, Bobert. Go with your instincts. Meantime I keep you in my thoughts and prayers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:07 PM Surgery should ALWAYS be a last resort. Hell, they're gonna cut into your body and probably cut something out of it! But don't reject it out of hand. It might be the only way. By the way, the cancer my wife had is rarely treated by surgery these days. It certainly wouldn't be treated as hers was, with a radical dissection of the neck. But that was then and this is now and she's alive and I'm danged glad she is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 01 Mar 08 - 12:34 AM Bobert, I think you're right about not needing them doctors to treat you. I looked up your symtoms in my "Big Picture Book Of Medical Stuff" and I think I know what's going on. It's either a touch of Nile River Lung Worm, or you have Schistosomiasis Bilhartsia of the rotator cuff. It's not real clear, but you mighta got one or t'other from eating uncooked bear meat from Egypt. I'm sure the rest of my Muddoctor collegues will back me up. Now that we cleared that up, just send a check for whatever you think is fair. Here's hopin' you feel better soon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 01 Mar 08 - 08:15 AM Well, gol danged, Skivz... No wonder that bear looked so wored out when I shot him... I'd be wored out, too, if I had just swam all the way from Egypt... Weren't much meat on the sumabich either... But what there was was mighty tastey... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Mar 08 - 08:28 AM Bilhartsia is a water borne infection, so stick to the shine, and avoid drinking water Bobert. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 01 Mar 08 - 08:46 AM What exactly is this "water" thing yer talkin' about, G??? You don't mean that stuff that the toilet, do ya??? Folks drenk that stuff??? Wow... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Tweed Date: 01 Mar 08 - 09:05 AM It's the right arm Bobert?? The one you hold the 30/06 up against while shooting bears, bottles and other critters?? Bad Karma bro and this needs Reverse Karmic Reconsolidation Maneuvers. First, remove the wood stocks from all your rifles and shotguns and burn them along with any of the bear's bones. Use a seal blubber accelerant to make sure everything is consumed and apply a liberal coat of the ash/blubber remains to your whole body, then string all the barrels and metal hardware into windchimes and on breezy nights, dance nekkid in the moonlight to the tunes it makes. This won't heal yore right arm but will keep anything from screwing with the left one. As for surgury, I can't tell you nothin' as I am not keen on that either. Hope you gets better before you have to think seriously about that. I do know three of the local redneck hunters that I work with who've had to do rotor cuff surgury and I think it's got somethin' to do with recoil slamming into their armpits. I don't shoot, and I ain't had it and I've done the same work as they do for 28 years. Yas, yas, not very scientific but sorta makes sense in a motherwit way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:09 AM I appreciate that cure ya' got there Tweezer... I was thinkin' somethin' along them lines... But, yeah, it's my right arm but I've always shot left handed 'cause my right eye don't see right... I also used to bat left handed when I thought I was gonna one day be a New York Yankee but I can bat rightie, too... Just can't hit nuthin' rightie either battin' or shootin'... Thing that pisses me off the most is that I can't play no gitfiddle at all... Might az well burn them sumabiches with the seal blubber, right??? Nevermind... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Tweed Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:29 AM Well nevermind my long range diagnosis then but try the wind chime cure anyway. And being as politically correct as I am, I think you should not burn your guitars but think GREEN and recycle them by sending them all down here to the sandbar. I will play them until my shoulder falls off like yores has and nurture them as if they was mine own. You can hang on to the Regal Reso though, as I have one with a serial number not far off from yores. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 01 Mar 08 - 06:56 PM Be looking fir 'um any day now, Tweezer... I'll have someone take the Regal down to the scrap yard... Maybe they can melt it down and make a new Chevette 'er somethin'... Been readin' up on this stuff here in the innernet and looks like after the MRI Iz gonna get me a shot 'er two... Heck, if I had the cortizone I'd do it myeslf right here and now... Where's my ice pack??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:56 PM See, Bobert, I done had the shot. Man shot my knee with some freeze stuff to cool it down so's I wouldn't feel the needle much (and I didn't) and filled the knee joint up with a mixture of cortisone and lidocaine. Stuff looked like skim milk in the hypo. Felt like the joint was all full of liquid, which it was. Kinda like if you was a water balloon. Didn't really hurt any and he even put a bandaid on it. If you was nice you could probably git a Square Bob Spongepants bandaid or one of them kinds. The shot took down the swelling and helped with the pain the swelling caused, but I still got trouble. Now in a week or so I gotta call him and arrange for an MRI and maybe surgery, if things don't git better instead. Like I told Amos over in the MOAB, this has fixed it so I can't play my trumpet. That's cause I play the trumpet with my toes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Mar 08 - 09:17 AM Sheeet fire, Rap... Sounds like you ain't gonna be up to operatin' on me either... Knees is differenter than what I think I got... I think I juts got some nerves twistercated up in my armpit... Maybe got tangled up with a tenden 'er muscle 'er somethin'... But then again the P-Vine thinks I might have a buldgng disc in my back... I'll know soemthin' this week... You take care of that knee, ya' hear??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 02 Mar 08 - 08:10 PM Got to, Bobert. Ain't nobody else gonna, 'cepting Pat, and she's threatened to plumb kill me dead if I don't. But I could operate on you while I was sittin' down, see. Or the P-Vine could use the knife and I could tell her what to cut. Shucks, I could do that over the phone, no sweat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Mar 08 - 08:16 PM The P-Vine an' Pat been talkin', Rap... Hide the ammunition... The P-Vine just today threatened to shoot me... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 02 Mar 08 - 08:38 PM Bobert, Pat's got her daddy's .45 Colt's revolver AND bullets. Worse yet, her daddy taught her to shoot and he was on the US Army's DC area pistol team. I really, really don't want to piss her off. Best I kin do is duck and cover and hide -- can't run worth nothin' right now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:17 PM Geez, Bobert! She threatened to shoot you? Is she going for the "horse with the broken leg" remedy? Seems kind of like overdoing it to me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:32 PM Either that, or her man in pain is gettin' so cantankerous he has about wore out her last nerve. Hey guys, if either or both of you do go in for surgery and need any replacement parts, let me know. I got a big old 4WD 1979 Ford F250 sittin' out in the back yard that I'll be glad to strip for any parts you might need. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 03 Mar 08 - 09:20 AM Bobert prob'ly needs a new rear end and a new Universal Joint. Especially the latter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 03 Mar 08 - 09:33 AM How about his big end? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 03 Mar 08 - 04:16 PM Well, I don't know what's going on... The P-Vine called Mr. Clifford this morning and tolt him that she'd seen what she thought my be a rabied fox and for him to bring his gun up... He's outside right now with it??? Danged.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Mar 08 - 05:10 PM The fox? Or the gun? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 03 Mar 08 - 05:34 PM And you believed her? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:01 PM Bobert! Bobert! You okay? Bobert? Bobert?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:05 PM Yeah, I also noticed that she had my life insurance file out 'cuase she failed to put it back in the file cabinet... Hmmmmmm??? I don't think she can collect if she has Mr. Clifford shoot me, can she??? I mean, that kinda stuff oughtta be against the law... But I ain't no lawyer... Okay, now fir the latest, as if anyone really gives a flyin'.... (Man, doncha just hate old people... All they do is talk about their ailments...) Okay, Thursday is the MRI and then Friday it's off to see a specialist in Winchester at the "Spine Center"... Think we'll ask Mr. Clifford to come along and bring his gun in case this specialist is a specialist in cuttin' folks when they don't need to be cut... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 03 Mar 08 - 09:38 PM Iffen you don't need no cuttin', just do what they tell ya. Iffen they say you need cuttin', ask 'em why and git a second opinion. A good doctor won't care. Iffen some guy says you need cuttin' cuz of what you did to his daughter, git outa there any way you can. Specially iffen he's got two er three big sons with him. Don't worry 'bout fightin' dirty, neither. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 04 Mar 08 - 04:24 PM Bobert, duz this mean you ain't gonna play at my weddin'? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 05 Mar 08 - 09:32 AM Rap, If yer lady wants to make an honest man outta ya, then I'll play... It hurts a little but I can play the geetar on my lap just fine and still play two drums and a high-hat with my feet... When's the weddin' an, speakin' of guns, hope there ain't a Rap-to-be in the oven... Them weddin's can get right down nasty affairs, indeed... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:19 AM The wedding is the next time October 6, 1973 comes around. Be glad to have you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 06 Mar 08 - 11:30 AM Today is the day for the MRI. I love those things- they are painless and detailed to the nth degree. Today you will get some answers. OK? (fingers crossed for ya) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: SINSULL Date: 06 Mar 08 - 11:36 AM Good thoughts going your way, Bobert. And I will light a candle for P-Vine, the Patient. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 06 Mar 08 - 11:53 AM hahhaha "P-Vine, the Patient" I love it. My brother had a hip replacement last month and by phone to me he reports great progress. Not much pain, working hard at physical therapy, great plans for getting back to tournament horseshoe pitching. Then I talked with his wife, and the story shades a little differently. She's been sleep deprived for two weeks because she's up with him every couple of hours, he gets huffy that "she just doesn't care", he doesn't understand why he has to remind her that it's time for his pain medication... lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:29 PM Dang it all Ebbie! You never have told us how the baby is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 06 Mar 08 - 03:32 PM The babe didn't need a hip replacement, Rap. I love good news, don't you? :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:10 PM Well, well, well... The MRI was a no-go... I couldn't get my head down as far as they wanted without #10 pain shootin' down my right arm... So, tomorrow it's off to Winchester Hospital where, if I understand it right, some sumabich is gonna whop me upside the head with a Louiseville Slugger and then stuff me in the MRI... Anyway, tomorrow oughtta be fun... Gonna see the specialist after I wake up and then at least I finally, fater 6 weeks of this crap, what it is that has me "seriously messed up"... BTW, the P-Vine ain't all that patient... She's real steamed at my primary care doctor for lettin' this get this far along with no progress... I believe that if she were to see him crossin' the street in front of her that she'd floor it... Sorry to have missed the last weddin', Rap... I own you one... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:13 PM Bobert...tell P vine that a divorce is cheaper than vehicular homicide even if it IS a Doc. Good luck, buddy. Hang in there. ONE more lousy day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:35 PM Man, I ain't even HEARD from the doc about an MRI and I called yesterday. We'll outlive 'em all yet, dude -- and dance on their graves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 06 Mar 08 - 07:29 PM Danged right, Rap... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Skivee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 08:51 PM Will that be clog dancin' or Irish Step? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:01 PM Well, if I'm dancin' with Bobert it ain't gonna be cheek-to-cheek.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:04 PM Party Pooper. Poop Head. WHY not???? We LUVZ the Bobert! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:11 PM He don't shave all that close and I get beard-burn easy. Just ask some of the girls I dated in college. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 07 Mar 08 - 07:44 AM I'll shave, dangit... BTW, what kinda girls did you date in college that gave you "beard burn"... Nevermind... I get it now... Naughty little boy, weren't you...lol... Off to Winchester... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:46 AM Good luck, pal. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 07 Mar 08 - 04:52 PM Turns out that I won't be gettin' the MRI 'til early next week but... ... I did see the doc and he is 90% certain that it's gonna show a herniated disc and if so he wants to... ...yeah, cut me up, remove the sumabich and graft two vertibrea (sp?) together... Gonna have to read up on this stuff yo see if there are any alternatives... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 07 Mar 08 - 04:56 PM Next Wednesday, 10:30 a.m. (12:30 p.m. your time) for my MRI, Bobert. Iffen it's a herniated disk couldn't you just be fitted up with truss or something? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: jacqui.c Date: 07 Mar 08 - 04:58 PM Bobert I had this in the lumbar region a few years back. I stayed away from the doctors and underwent quite a lot of chiropractic, together with complete rest, which solved the problem. An orthopaedic consultant later told me that, if it hadn't been for the chiropractic I would have had to have that surgery, which can leave problems of its own, I believe. All good wishes to you - I know how painful a herniated disc can be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:46 PM Mine is a cervical disc, jacgui... I'm gonna think long and hard on what to do here... I ain't jumpion' on no cuttin' table... I gotta a good friend in Florida who is a good chiroprator... I'm gonna have a good talk with him... I just read up a little on this an' it says that some folks get operated on and it don't help them... Others say they lose their voice... Hmmmmm, yeah, I'm thinkin' of Kendall here, fir sure... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bill D Date: 07 Mar 08 - 06:07 PM I had an MRI 7-8 years ago...had bone spur on 3rd cervical vertebra which pinched the nerve to my arm. I got a shot of Cortisone right in the area to shrink the tissue. It helped a LOT, but I still have to be very careful about how I move my neck. I do this to avoid surgery. I have no doubt this is not nearly the problem as a herniated disc...but maybe it's worth asking the doc about. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:43 PM Oh Jeez, Bobert - I hope they don't have to amputate at the neck! Seriously, whatever the MRI shows, and whatever is recommended - get a second opinion. If the recommendations are very ambiguous, then get a third opinion, preferably from outside of your immediate hospital region. If I can find it again I'll send you some links on interesting research regarding orthopedics. There are significant regional differences in how often surgery to the spine is recommended, and the rates of spinal surgery by region. I do a fair amount of pain management work with people with chronic orthopedic pain. Outcomes post surgery with respect to pain tend to be generally better today than they were 15 or 20 years ago, but are clearly not guaranteed. The cervical area seems to be particularly delicate. Some orthopedic practices may be a bit too quick to recommend surgery (not for reasons of monetary gain, but because of perspective.) However, there appears to be a delicate balance when it comes to trying other things first. It would seem (and I am basing this primarily on client self-report) that damage to the cervical spine can be progressive if no intervention occurs, or if non-surgical interventions are unsuccessful and surgery is put off too long. A point can be reached where the damage is such that surgery is no longer a viable option, especially if you have arthritis, or develop arthritis as a result of the injury to the cervical spine. If you already have have osteoarthritis or degenerative disc disease, or a strong family history of it with early onset, be sure you explore the implications with the doctors with whom you consult regarding possible outcomes when considering any of your options, surgical or otherwise. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:47 PM Bobert's got a cervix?? Here all along I thought.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:06 PM Well..............You ain't gonna' like this but................ Herniated discs come in several types and affect the spine in different ways no matter where they are located...cervical, thoracic, or lumbar. The disc is a cushion that separates the vertebra and allow them to bend and move with some freedom. The disc itself has a reasonably firm "shell" and a softer interior. As we age the material gets harder......shame it ain't your.......uh, sorry........Anyway, "herniated" means ruptured or broken. Too often we call this a slipped disc. It isn't. Discs don't slip. Period. The end. Complete horseshit. You can't stick them back into place. Every vertebra has notches in it that match with another notch in the discs above and below forming a hole for the nerve to pass through as it exits the spinal cord. Where these nerves go determine much of where the pain is. For instance in what is commonly referred to as "sciatica" the nerve at the bottom of the last Lumbar vertebra becomes inflamed as the disc material pushes on it OR the vertebra themselves are too close and the nerve opening (intervertebral foramen) is too small. The inflamed nerve causes pain in the back itself and often continues for the length and branching of the nerve. In the case of the sciatic nerve the pain is in the lower back and will extend down through the buttocks, hips, thighs, knees, calves, and clear to the foot. The same thing happens wherever this occurs in the spinal column and the nerve affected can be only minimally aggravating or completely debillitating. It simply depends on how the disc is herniated and how badly. Many people can use the treatments of heat and cold as you have in conjunction with both rest and proper exercises to get past an acute attack. In some cases, anti-inflammatory meds are used and these are both the non-steroidal type such as Naprosyn or even Aspirin and the steroidal type which help in an even stronger way by binding with cortisol receptors. NONE OF THESE and no amount of manipulation will "cure" the problem. However if the hernaition is not severe and the acute phase can be managed through one or more of the above methods you will just need to be careful in the future, do the exercises, and jump on the drugs at the first sign of trouble. On the other hand, the problem will still be there and may become worse as you go along. No legitimate orthopede will do surgery if it isn't warranted and that's why all the tests. Many of them will try various drug and exercise combinations and even refer you to pain clinics. But if it comes to the point where nothing helps............................... Bobertz I know you know what a "Midget" is. In '75 I had a bad crash and my lower back took a bad hit. As I aged I also developed a form of arthritis common to many that is not age dependent. Its called degenerative disc disease and that combined with the effect of the injury started creating problems. In my mid 30's I would have periods where I would be "out of action" for a week or longer. Most times I would "tough it out" like a dumbass and I took NSAIDs like candy, also like a dumbass. This meant that I hurt for months on end but I was somewhat able to do things. I'd have a month or two of "almost normal," then another attack. I was teaching Auto-Tech at a Vo-Tech when I was 40 and my back had become so bad that I could put no pressure on my legs at all. The lower back itself hurt so damn bad it was unbelievable. As the school year ended I was unable to walk and EVERY position was pain filled, even laying down except in ridiculous positions. For a month I laid on a day bed and crawled back and forth to the bathroom. The Ortho said I would need surgery and laid out the possible side effects which aren't all that appealing. But they ARE just POSSIBLE side effects and for me the question was simple. Can I live in this pain the rest of my life or not. I couldn't. I was at the point I was ready to kill to GET the surgery! I came out of surgery with no problems and Karen will tell you that my worst time was the day after when they had promised to help me up out of bed. I was a mean bastard all day as I couldn't wait to see if the pain had really gone. I stood up to my full height for the first time in months and the pain was gone! I will never forget that feeling. I had three done--L4-L5-S1 I know other people who have had longer recoveries or been left with some problems like numbness. A friend of mine had a similar procedure as you are looking at and was amazed at how quickly he recovered. Another friend still has numbness almost 20 years later. Both would do it again as would I. I have had no problems since but when I think about the year I spent pre-op, it a gawdamn nightmare Man......... For years I had tried all manner of manipulations and treatments from chiropractic to herbalists to hynotism to accupunture and none of it worked. If you understand how the back functions and what the discs do, you can see why. The problem is never truly repaired and IF it continues to worsen, only the surgical option will work. And btw, there are times they CAN'T do surgery. So here's my message to you.........If you want to research something, find the best ortho you can in your area or even in the next large city. One of the keys to getting through ANY surgery (and I've had way too damn many) is to have confidence in the Cutter. When you are comfortable with the Doc and he says you need surgery, remember your other option which is live in pain. If your problem has become as bad as you are describing it, you probably DO need surgery. See what the MRI looks like but if you need surgery, DO IT. Or decide you can live with the pain for the rest of your life and have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. I'll send my best thoughts and everyone else will as well but you're gonna' be in pain if its as bad as you say. Damn but I feel good! Sorry 'bout you............... Spaw-----passing on my best wishes, thoughts and TOUGH LOVE. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:09 PM Good post Janie......I was writing mine when you posted.....Great advice! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:31 PM What can I say, 'Spaw? Great minds think alike! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 07 Mar 08 - 11:36 PM And, I had a herniated cervical disc, C5. The one just above the big bump on your neck. I put up with pain, numbness, severe muscle spasms, etc for years longer than I should have. When I finally started having such bad numbness that I was trying to drop the fiddle or bow, I saw a Neuro surgeon. The chiropractic had sorta kept it at bay for years, but not fixed it. The hernia was bad....and yes, I got 3 opinons. All said, surgery. So I did. It is called a laminectomy; basically they just go in and nip off the protruding part of the disc. Out patient surgery. In and out in 4 hours. NO troble from the surgery. I went fabric shopping after I got out of the surgery center. The ONLY problem I had was that I turned out to be allergic to the absorble suture material they used, and so got an infection in the incision. If my Husband had been able to recognize infection, I'd have been fine much sooner. As it is, I have a pretty deep, ugly scar on the back of my neck just above the t shirt line. Doesn't bother ME, I can't see it. But it itches sometimes. The fiddle is still all in one piece too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Mar 08 - 11:02 AM Spaw, you hold him down (shouldn't be hard) and I'll do the cuttin'. Might was well just cut "everything" while we're at it, huh? Stubborn danged hillbillies.... Bobert, you ever hear of Georgetown University Hospital? It's a big ol' hospital where they teach medicine. It's in a sleepy little town nearby you called Washington, DC. They got some purty good doctors there who teach other folks how to be doctors, kinda like a good banjo player is supposed to teach newbies, if there was such a thing as a good banjo player. The bone doctor in charge there is named Sam W. Wiesel. They also got a deal with Fairfax Hospital. Now up in Charlottesville they got ANOTHER goddamn teaching hospital at the university up thatway. The boner in charge is named Cato T. Laurencin; he's a PhD and an MD and looks like he'd be a Memphis bluesman. Now you gotta choice! DC, Charlottesville, or me and Spaw. Which is it gonna be? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 08 Mar 08 - 11:49 AM Thanks, folks, for sharing yer experiences with me... All this stuff is comfortin'... Ifinz I gotta get cut I'm gonna Charlottesville... It's only an hour and 20 minutes drive... I'm going there fir the MRI either Monday 'er Tuesday and they are gonna send the films to the doc I saw yesterday... If he says "chop, chop" after seein' 'um I'll get up with the guy in C-Ville fir a 2nd opinion an' if that guy says "chop, chop" then I'll give you a call, Rap... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 08 Mar 08 - 12:19 PM Right Spaw, I'll hold him down, Rap can get the hammer, and when I nod my head, you hit it! OK, quite clear? G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: GUEST,Terp Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:20 AM I had a herniation between cervical disc 5&6 about 17 years ago and after consultations with 2 different orthopedic surgeons, 6 weeks of PT (which only aggravated things) and about 6 months of pain in my neck and shoulder which at times radiated down to the finger tips of my left hand I took the advice of a friend and got a home traction device from the local drug store. I used this very simple device, hung on the top of a door edge, 3 times a day for 20 minutes a session and in 2 weeks no more pain. I had a bit of a relapse 2 months later and did another 2 weeks on it and haven't had any problems in that area since. Just my story.Good luck. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:38 AM I had a similar problem, and but vibro-massage and specific exercise it was cured. If I get a return twinge I do the neck exercise the physio gave me at that time, and it goes away again. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:30 AM Since we honestly don't know what Bobert's problem is...no, let me rephrase that. Since we honestly don't know what THIS problem of Bobert's is, I think we have to wait for the MRI results. I rephrased that because we know what Bobert's problem(s) is/are, it's just this specific one we're unsure about. I mean, when I first saw this thread title my reaction was, "Yeah, we know that and what else is news?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:32 AM Remember Rap; when I nod my head, hit it. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: jacqui.c Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:36 AM But be careful, Rap, not to knock Giok's glasses off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:53 AM Now Rap - why does he need to go to all the trouble and expense of an MRI and a damn medical opinion - look at all the perfectly free advice we are all giving him here! I think he should take the money we've saved him and buy another guitar. What with the high cost of medical care, there'd probably be enough dough left over to do a little Christmas shopping and get BWL that new dobro he's been wanting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:55 AM Well Janie, he said he can't play the ones he has! G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 09 Mar 08 - 11:10 AM By the time he has scrupulously followed all of our medical instruction, you Spaw and Rap have finished with the hammer, and the P-vine is done jerking a knot in his tail, he won't be so limited in technique as to need the use of his arms or fingers to play.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 11:44 AM Not to fear folks... I'll be at the Getaway, with geetars, and with fully functional appendages, filanges, etc... (Boy, Boberdz, ya' really left an openin' there with that last comment...) Ignore this post... It's the painkiller's talkin'... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Becca72 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 12:48 PM My own 2 cents... I herniated L5-S1 a year and a half ago and walked into the Neurosurgeon's office (barely) with my sister who, several years before, had the same issue and was basically disabled by the surgery and said "what can you do for me that doesn't involve cutting?". It took a loooong time. Prednisone and Vicodin were my best friends. Now I'm very aware of how I'm bending and what I'm lifting, etc, but the pain's gone. But it was over a year to be "back to normal". It don't happen quick-like. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 12:54 PM Bobert, you go see the bluesman up in Charlottesville. Iffen you see my cousin-in-law up there say "Howdy" for me. He's in the French Dept. so you'd better say it in French, which is "Houdee" if I remember right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 02:16 PM Let me reinforce two truths that Becca just posted. First, good Ortho/Neuro folks don't want to go the surgical option until it is the last option. However, there are situations like mine where it IS the last option as I'd been through all the medical/therapy/exercise things that you could do.....and they had all quit working. Keep in mind that upon occasion there is no surgical option either and you'er stuck with learning to live with the pain. While its true you need second opinions and you don't want to leap to surgery, if that is what fixes things its stupid as hell to rule it out. I didn't want the surgery at first either but after years of slowly getting worse, my last attack never went away at all I was ready to kill to get it done. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 02:45 PM I'm gonna do just that, Spawzer, if the first guy says "chop, chop"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 03:28 PM I'm tellin' ya, Spaw'll hold ya down and I'll cut away anything I see. Won't charge ya all that much either. Just for the beer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 03:44 PM Just don't be afraid to go for "chop-chop" if the the other guys say so.............Don't have it in your mind that these guys are all just dying to cut you open......they aren't. AND there are some surgical options that don't involve cutting. Many laminectomies are done with minimally invasive surgical techniques and you're out the next day with no pain. If a fusion is needed, that's another story. Just relax. So......out of curiosity, have you ever had surgery of any sort? The way you keep goin' on I figger you fer a nooby. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 04:54 PM Looky here, Bobert. Backaways I needed to get the inside of my right knee cleaned up -- I'd fallen and ripped the shit out of the meniscus (some of the cushioning stuff in there). The doc thought so, and the MRI said so. So I got 'er done. They went in using an incision one-half inch long (if you can't picture half an inch, it's about half the length of the middle joint of your right hand index finger). I was out cold from both the drugs and that open-down-the-back hospital gown. When I woke up I walked down to the car (they wanted to use a wheelchair but I said no), went home, dropped the ol' Vicodin, found out that I really, really fly on that stuff, and two days later I was back at work. Yeah, I had some PT and yeah, in the beginning it was painful. But my right knee is cool now and about as good as a 63 year old joint gets. Now it's the turn of my left knee. So if the MRI shows that cuttin' is the best thing to do and a doc or two agree, they gonna cut me. I'll do all that shit that I did before, including the Vicodin, man. The worst that can happen is that the docs agree that I need a knee replacement and I don't think that's gonna happen. Well, I mean, I could die on the table, only it ain't all that likely. Anyway, you know what it says in Mark 13:33 and places like that. So if it's gotta be done, git 'er done. Matthew 14:27. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:57 PM Well, Spawzer, you got me pegged... Other than getting my tonsils out and 4 wisdom teeth pulled that's 'bout it... Okay, I did have to have a hole punched in my chest for a collapsed lung once... Other than a few broken bones which didn't need no cuttin' on that's the extent of it... But I am resigned to do it if the 2nd doc says the same thing as the first one... I mean, yeah, let 'er rip... If it were a knee it would be a lot easier but knowing that they gonna go in from the front of my neck is a tad scarier... There's lotta stuff in the front of yer neck... Like what if the guy is about to make the initial cut and sneezes??? You jknow, that kinda stuff... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 06:55 PM You'll never know it if he does. Bobert, my wife has scars down both sides of her neck. They laid her neck wide open with a radical dissection when she was 17 -- took out her thyroid and parathyroids because of cancer. That's what they did back then. Nobody sneezed, but she's pretty scarred up. So... What I'm sayin' is, they do this, go in from the front, and you got a built-in story, man! You can tell 'em how you wuz leavin' a gig when you wuz jumped by these here drug-crazy bikers who wanted to steal your guitar and how you fought 'em off with only a guitar pick and your good looks for weapons and rescued Sister Holy Mary Of The Angels, a kindly old nun who wuz deliverin' food to poor folks and.... Man, this could be the Stuff Of Legend! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:00 PM Well, gol danged, Rap... You is a genious!!! I think I'll have the operation even if the doctors say I don't need it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:06 PM Ah shucks, I'm jist a humble modest feller from the Great American Middle West who happens to be livin' in the Rocky Mountains.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:37 PM Well damn.....Ol' Rap is givin' it to you pretty hard as well Bobertz.....Even quotin' some dubious scripture and all. But I tell ya' Rap, if ya' need to get that left knee done, just keep lookin' in your Bible for guidance 'cause it tells ya' right there in Acts 9:4 to git 'er done when it says, "It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." No shit! Gotta' have good knees to be both a prick kicker and a shitkicker! See Ol' Spaw not only got hissef a major in Philosophy but also a minor in Religion...........Talk about ways to piss away four years of your life........and I have soooo much to show for it too.............................geeziz............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:50 PM Well, ol' Rap pissed away six years (minus a little over a year fer Uncle Sam) and got HISSELF a degree in English Literature and minors in Philosophy, Theology, and Drama. Philosophy means lots of Existentialism, which is pretty damned depressing. Even Camus is depressing. I mean, "The point is to live." Come on, ya gotta do better than just live. Maybe he meant "The point is to live it up." Ol' Jean-Paul Sartre makin' tons of money, all of it pointless, but he kept on makin' it. Like a virtuoso banjo player: rakin' in the dough for doin' what? It taught me not be an Existentialist. Not even one like Heidigger or Buber, if they were. But it did make for great talk at parties over beer and stuff. Impressed the girls, too. "Ah, who knows what tomorrow shall bring? We could all be dead or even worse, graduated and have to go to work. Let's go in the bedroom and...." At least Drama was pretty straightforward. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:09 PM Well, gol danged... Looks as if this has become a pissin'-away contest so seein' as that is the situation I done pissed away 4 year getting a BS in History/Poli-Sci and another 3 getting a BA in Fine Arts... Accordin' to the Wes Ginny Slide Rule that's, ahhhhh, a lotta pissed away years... Maybe 6 or 8, 'er so... (7 to be exact, Boberdz...) Yeah, okay, make it 7... That puts me in 1st place on the pissed-awayers... But, never mind that high math and pissed away years... I'm starting to like the timgly feelings in the fingers... Feels like about 30 volts 24/7... No, the pain ain't growin' on me so I reckon I still gonna have to get it off me but I like the 'lectricty... I think I'll ask the doc if he could only do half an operation fir the pain and leave the 'lectricity... Maybe he'd only charge half price??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:22 PM See, I bought into the whole existentialist bag myself andtried to mold what I read in Barth into something that coexisted seamlessly with Heidegger and Kierkegaard. But then I found myself asshole deep and wallowing about in "Either/Or"..........I mean I figured that anyone who wrote like that had to be a friggin' genius with his finger on the pulse of all life-force. After awhile I would find myself deep in thought, staring at my roommate's ant farm, and wishing I wasn't out of dope. Then one day after failing to find the mix of Existential Philosophy and Theology as described by Paul Tillich I took my copy of "How to Talk Dirty and Influence People" to the can and took a healthy shit. Suddenly the essence (and of course Existentialism is all about essence) of all Existentialism was revealed by this great 20th Century Stand Up Philosopher!!! Fuck Kierkegaard..... I had Lenny Bruce. My essence finally preceded my existence. There it was in one simple line of English and I actually could understand it immediately without either dictionary or thesaurus. "There is only what is; What should be never existed." I ripped off a final fart and went out to meet the world in all of its absurdity. The only problem after that was what to do with the worthless ass degree so I opted to twist wrenches and go racing and have one helluva' good time. This is owed anyone who has read "Either/Or." Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 08 - 08:51 PM Same here, Spawz... 'Cept in my case it was Laurance Ferlinghetti's "Five Unfair Arguments Againt Existence" that got me twisting wrenches and drivin' my race car... The wrenches??? Ahhhh, still have 'um all up in my tool room... The race car??? Maybe it never existed inspite of the photograhical evidence to the contrary??? Ferlingetti??? Yeah, I'm purdy sure he existed but if I can't prove that I do then I'm gonna have a hard time provin' that he did... Ouch... Gotta go lie (lay) down now... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 09:28 PM You get a really quick lesson in existence in the Infantry. It's and "either/or" thing -- either he's dead or you are. So when I came back to college after learning that shit I just wanted to finish and get on with life. Did that; went to -- Northern Illinois University! -- for a couple semesters of grad school, ran out of money, followed this chick to Ohio, married her (and am still married to her), took some courses at Kent State, finished grad school at Case Western Reserve, took about half another masters in writing at the U. of Akron, moved to Indiana (wife was now a lawyer and working at Notre Dame), moved to Northern Kentucky (or Cincinnati South), moved out here. Yeah, I know Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, even Virginia and West Virginia. And DC and Maryland, too. I just noticed: Kent State, NIU -- am I following massacres or something? Massacre Rocks State Park is just about 20 miles away (there weren't any massacre there, just the Shoshones ambushed some wagons and around 1930 somebody started calling it a massacre). Maybe it's me, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 09:39 PM Yeah, I was kinda' noticing a certain theme running along there Rap........Didn't happen to be on the Grassy Knoll didja'? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 08 - 09:45 PM 200 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:40 PM Not in Dallas, no. But I was at Ft. Riley, Kansas when JFK got shot. Later on I visited Dallas and went to the plaza and the school book building and all that. Decided that I could have nailed Kennedy...the range wasn't all that great and a telescopic sight was used; using optical sights was (and is) to my mind sort of cheating. I've been to the May 4 shooting site so many times I lost count. Where ever I go, people die. Maybe I should change deodorant? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:36 AM Ahhhhh, hate to say this, Rap, but I think I'll have someone slde do the surgery... But thanks fir off-erin'... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:46 AM How's about if I promise to get the knife at least pretty sharp? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:53 AM Tempting offer there Bobert. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 08 - 01:57 PM It ain't the purdy sharpeness of the knife, ol buddy... It this thing where folks die when you come 'round that has me more than a little concerned about you doin' the cuttin'... BTW... MRI tomorrow in Charlottesville and I have "1 or 2" valium I'm 'sposed to take before it... I ain't never taken no valium so I ain't too sure as to whether to take one or both them??? I don't want to O.D., 'er nuthin'... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:03 PM Great things Bobert, they'll relax you, and do you no harm at all. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:12 PM Oh well shitfire......Lemmee give you something to really worry about then! I went in for an odd pain in my back and was sent to te hospital where they admitted me and gave me "Versed" (pronounced ver-SAID), a relative of valium which is the drug of choice in most hospitals for short term pain relief. That's about the last thing I remember for the next week as I had exactly the opposite reaction to the drug. Instead of being calming and sleepy, I became wired up and even combative! My vital signs went all over the place and I was Life-Flighted to Columbus where they spent several hours getting my body under control, ending up putting me in a medically induced coma. I had an aortic dissection which stopped just shy of the heart and things were touch and go for a week or so. Go back to threads from April and May of 1999 and you can read all about it! Now there's a lot more to the story, but that ought to be enough to make you blow a load in your pants and run off and hide in the woods. Go ahead and take a handful............LOL............. BTW, you have some 2 inch valium? How the hell could you swallow it? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 10 Mar 08 - 05:04 PM Valium's cool, but if you take 'em let the P-Vine (or somebody else) drive. Don't do it yourself. Trust me on this. Don't go back to work on the bomb squad right away, either. Don't let Spaw talk you out of it, either. That was only an attention-getting device he tried.* *Worked, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 08 - 05:42 PM First of all, these valiums ain't two inches... They small... But so was LSD... Nevrmind the LSD thing... I think I'll just take one of 'um and keep the other 'round if I like the effects... Speakin' of drugs, looks as if I have some burnable evidence coming my way which is a good thing... I ain't had none in months and sho nuff could burn a little just fir grins... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Richard Bridge Date: 10 Mar 08 - 07:03 PM Go by body weight. If you are over 180 pounds (a little under 13 stone) take two. If you are under 140 pounds (10 stone) take one. In between it is a matter of judgment. As said above, NOT before driving! Your other combustibles are good for pain control and relaxation too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 08 - 08:38 PM 6'1", 177 pounds??? 1 1/2??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:05 AM Last time I had valium was when I got that colonoscopy (or whatever it's called) they give you for your 50th birthday present. Dani and the nurse kept my feet on the ground as I floated out to the car to be poured into the passenger seat upon completion of this rite of passage. I gave the nurse a dopey smile as she settled me in the car and said "Gee, I haven't felt this way since...since....." "College." She kindly finished my sentence for me, and patted me on the head. Take 2 if you are claustrophobic at all. Otherwise, save them for me when I come up to visit after you ain't crippled no more:>) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:23 AM Versed is HORRIBLE if you have a reaction to it. I have a reaction to it. First time was for an outpatient surgery, an hour or so. I felt like I had a lead-weight hat on when I "woke." A friend was there to take me home; I slept for 24 hours straight through before I could manage to get up and move around. What a horrible hangover that was. When they had wheeled me in for the first surgery I hadn't realize what they'd given me, and I'd awakened briefly as they were getting ready for the regular anaesthesia, and I asked why they didn't have the classical station on the radio, then I was out again. I foolishly mentioned this ten days later when the big surgery (hysterectomy for a clear margin) went down. "We'll take care of that," he said. Boy, did he. They kept me over a full extra day in the hospital they were so alarmed by how out of it I was. Took a couple of more days of sleep to wake up. Next time I had surgery was a couple of years later, but in the interim I'd had an occasion to talk to a surgical nurse. She clued me in to the Versed. I researched it, they had used it, so I made sure my bunionectomy was free of Versed. My friend and daughter picked me up afterward and we all sat and talked and happily watched a movie that evening after dinner. What a world of difference! If you research the stuff you'll find a lot of unpleasant side effects, like memory loss, along with the hangover. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 11 Mar 08 - 09:04 AM Use the Valium, man. Take 'em both. When you see God, tell him I said "Hi." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 11 Mar 08 - 09:46 AM Except, Rapaire, that's not how it is properly spelled. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:45 PM I misspelled the word "Hi"?? Okay, tell him "Hello" for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:04 PM The valium din't do much good but I got thru the sumabichin' MRI... I can't lie (lay) flat without strakin' pain down my right arm so I had to hold it over my head for the duration... Right now, everything hurts... They said that it would take a week to get the MRI read so I got 'um to burn a CD of it and sent it "Next Day" to the surgeon in Winchester to read so maybe by tomorrow I'll have a diagnosis and recommendation??? I din't run into God all day, Rap, but if I had I woulda said "Hey" fir ya... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:25 PM Well, you did good. Just remember what Sister Merry Whips told me back in grade school: Offer it up for the good of your soul! (She also told...never mind, it's off the topic.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:11 AM Okay, Bobert. Today it's my turn. 12:30 p.m. your time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:25 AM Well, Rap... Yers outta be a walk (ouch) in the park compared to what I endured but I hope it goes well fir ya and keep in mind that ol' Boberdz got a Boy Scout knife and some frequent flier miles to use up... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:38 AM Better pack the knife in the check in baggage Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:47 AM Thanks, G... I was thinkin' of hidin' it my underwear... Boy, that woulda been embarrassin', wouldn't it to have to strip down in the middle of Dulles International... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:13 AM Keep us posted, Rapaire. Janie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Mar 08 - 05:57 PM I went to the MRI place and they took my pants away. I was put on a big ol' table and this C-clamp like thing put around my left knee. It made sounds like a jackhammer only not as loud and then clicked and whirred and they moved me around some more. My leg was put into something that prevented it from moving around, things were put along side me to stop me from rolling around (and off the table), and I went to sleep. No drugs; I just took a nap for an hour or so and they were done. I saw some pictures of my knee right away and I gotta say, I got some good lookin' knees! The tech said that she "didn't see anything that jumps out at me" but the pix will be reviewed by a radiologist and I go to see the Doc next Tuesday for the news. They gave me my pants back before I left, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 12 Mar 08 - 06:02 PM Pants is a good thing, Rap! Now, when I get to go for the osteoporosis test, I get a whole paper outfit! Paper shorts, paper top (of COURSE it opens in front....) Last time I kept the outfit and wore it at the lake camping! LOL! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 08 - 06:11 PM I dare you to wear it to the Getaway, Sorch... Glad that things went well with yers, Rap... Did yers make a sound that sounded like a lick from a Who song... Mine did... I get my diagnosis tomorrow... I'd bet it's a herniated disc 'cause my arm is about on fire with tingles and pain and what I read on the internet that's generally a herniated disc... Fun... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Mar 08 - 06:57 PM Yeah, it did. Mostly it sounded like a jackhammer, getting softer and then doing that lick. Then the jackhammer agin. Stuff might not "jump out" at the tech, but my knee still hurts like...well, I could do without the hurtin'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 08 - 07:20 PM Howz about you an' me tradin' ailments fir a couple days, Rap... I'm way behind on my geetar playin'... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Fortunato Date: 12 Mar 08 - 07:24 PM Hey bobert, what's the verdict? If they have to put you down can I have your guitars? sensitively yours, chance PS I hope you live, I can't play the fugin' slide anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 08 - 07:44 PM What, you don't think my geetras is good nuff fir ya??? Huh??? Shoot, they know how to play chords and standard tunin' an' all that stuff... They ain't dummies, 'er nuthin'... I was gonna leave 'um to ya if I croaked but not if yer gonna put 'um in a closet... BTW, I ain't plannin' on croakin'... The P-Vine might have differenter ideas, tho... I think she might have put out a hit contract with Mr. Clifford 'cause he's been up here walkin' the farm with his gun... Says he's hunting groundhogs... Yeah, right... As fir the verdict??? I won't know 'til tommorrow 'er the next day or the day after that... But I'm purdy sure that I have a operation in my near future... That is if Mr. Clifford don't shoot me first... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 12 Mar 08 - 08:10 PM Well Pard, I hope it doesn't come to that but I'm glad to see you got your mind right! Rap......Don't you hate it when you have pain and they can't figure it out? Never a good time. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:11 PM Shucks, I can cause myself all the pain I want without any problem at all. And I'll know what caused it. Like the time a guy cut my leg with a corn knife -- no sweat, I knew what caused it. He even apologized as he tried to stop the bleeding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Mar 08 - 05:40 AM If that's what they use for corns WTF do they use for bunions? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Mar 08 - 09:09 PM One of these. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 13 Mar 08 - 09:21 PM There are days when I'd be GLAD to have a chain saw taken to my bunion!!!! I've threatened to cut the damn thing off myself, since the Docs say it's not 'bad enough' to deal with.....!!!!!!! OK, Bobert...it's check in time here. What's the news? PS...bodies ain't what they are cracked up to be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 08:46 AM Okay, Bobert. How're ya doin'? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 09:55 AM Well, right now I'm purdy steamed... The danged "Spinr Clinic" in Winchester has had a CD with the MRI piccures since Wednesday at noon and the doc ain't "read" them yet, or if he has he ain't called... I've called 3 times since Wednesday, talked with various people who say they would leave a note for the doctor??? The American health care sytem is so screwed that we pay out 17% of ur GNP to wait, wait and wait... The worst part about this is that I purdy much know that I've blown out a C-6 disc, I am in constant pain, I have allready decided that I want to have it fixed at UVA hospiatl but have to wait for the yahoos in Winchester to read the friggin' piccure and tell me what I allready know so that I can then get my primary doc to set me up for an appointment witrh the surgeon at UVA... Grrrrrrrr!!! Another week shot to pieces... Meanwhile, I'm supposed to play at a festival the 1st week of May and I haven't played in 2 months now... Grrrrrrrr!!! Meanwhile, Part B, I'm land poor... I have over a half a million dollars worth of real estate on the market and am having to sell my prized '63 Karmann Ghia (to be listed on ebay later today) to pay the high deductibale ($2000) for all this crap... Grrrrrrrr!!! Other than that, it's a beautiful day and one of the locals is here taking down the last of 4 ugly metal feeders (35 feet high) and that will make the back of the farm look great... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 11:31 AM It's yer punishment fer yer oppression of the poor, downtrodden laboring classes, for tramplin' and grindin' the worker under the iron heel of yer spike-soled boots. Repent, Bobert! Repent now! There is still time! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 01:40 PM Wait a minute, Rap... "poor, downtrodden laboring class"??? Hey, that's me... I work harder than any sumabich I know and at the rnd of the day what do I have??? Another day older and deeper in debt... But now if you was to buy this house I got built then I couild at least get the debt off me and have a few bucks for workin'[ my butt off for the last year and a half... Yezzir... Be nice to get a pay check... I'm the only sumabich that has worked on building it that ain't been paid... The rest is fat an' happy... Somethin' wrong here... Yeah, yer right... I have made some serious repentable errors in judegment and now the powers at be got me stoved up under their spike-soiled boots... I repent!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 01:41 PM BTW, Rap... You can buy my Karmann Ghia, too... That'd help... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Mar 08 - 02:26 PM Maybe a Vette but, uh..................Although they do say that the "last 356" was the K-G....................still.................................. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 02:38 PM Well, Bobert, it's like this: the commute to work would take me longer than it did when I lived in Ohio, and that was about an hour each way. Shucks, it'd be longer than if I still worked in Ohio! But ya know, Spaw lives in Ohio (if you kin call that livin') and Tweed lives in someplace like Missabama. Either one of them could buy that house from ya and they could git to work in a lot less time that I could. So acting as agent for the SpawTweed Partnership, LLC, the STPLLC hereby offers you $450,000 and a Captain Midnight Video Decoder Ring for that stuff you're tryin' to dump IF AND ONLY IF it's all* got indoor plumbing. *Including the Kharna...Charmi...car. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 02:39 PM This 'un will flat out stomp a 356, Spawzer... I built it for autocrossing... Okay, it might look harmless but it's set up just right... BTW, I used to have another Ghia that was set up for autocrossing and I would maul the Vettes on shorter courses... The Porsche Club changed some rules the year after I went to Crew, Va. with the it a tore up most of their Porsches... Yeah, they said that the front axles were weak and no VeeDubs could play at their autocross events... I thnk what really pissed 'um off was that my Ghis was primer gray and ugly and they just didn't like getting beat by the hippie in the ugly VW... BTW, for anyone interested, my Ghia will be on ebay by 9:00 tonight and be there for the next 10 days when the auction ends... As for my useless doctor??? He still ain't called... The P-Vine told his nurse that he needed to call this afternoon 'er he might need some doctorin' hisself when she got done with him... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Mar 08 - 03:19 PM How much would the postage be Bobert? G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 03:23 PM To where??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: gnu Date: 14 Mar 08 - 03:26 PM Hahahahaha. Giok... yer bad back got you in a hissy mood? Hehehehehe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 03:42 PM Giok's in Scotland, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 14 Mar 08 - 04:42 PM Oh??? Well, it is a Volkswagen and they float so I reckon a couple paddles, a box of Moon Pies and a couple cases of Iron City Beer and he's all set to drive, float it home... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 04:59 PM No problem at all! The Shenandoah to the Potomac, the Potomac to The Bay, the Bay to the Atlantic, and before he knows it he'll be paddling up the Forth of Firth or the Fifth of Fourth or where ever Eden...Edinburro is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 14 Mar 08 - 05:08 PM He could just ride the burro. If it was good enough for Jesus, I'm sure it's good enough for Giok! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 14 Mar 08 - 06:09 PM It's a very small one, Sorcha. A burrito, in fact. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Mar 08 - 06:33 PM Actually he rides a Giokass............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 14 Mar 08 - 10:03 PM LOL! I think BOTH of you might be correct! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Fortunato Date: 15 Mar 08 - 07:42 AM Jesus, how did Christ and his ride gets mixed up with you bunch? Pay them no attention, Lord, they know gnot what they do.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: maeve Date: 15 Mar 08 - 08:00 AM And may the kick land where it'll do the most good. I hope you hear back from the doctor, Bobert. It's time you got some relief from pain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 08 - 08:51 AM Well, okay, I diod hear from the doctor late yesterday... He looked at the MRI and the only thing he could tell me was there wasn't any evidence of any major herniated disc so I asked: "Well, doc, why do I have 24/7 pain and tingling down my arm and in fingers???" to which he replied: "I don't have all the tools to read the MRI..." Huh??? What, does he need metric set of sockets, 'er what??? The P-Vine Googled the kid up and apparently he ain't been doc'in too long so next week (ahhhh, yes, yet another week) we're going to make an appontment with a real doctor, Dr. Chin, at UVA who has been 'round the block a few times... Meanwhile, "The Ghia" should be on ebay by now... I ain't checked it out but it's a '63 and is white if anyone is interested... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Becca72 Date: 15 Mar 08 - 11:23 AM Fer cryin' out loud Bobert...Send that CD up my way..I work for the Radiology department at one of our local hospitals and I'll have one of OUR docs look at the damned thing. :-) BTW, when I had my MRI done I has the results back in 2 days...not a week (of course, being a transcriptionist I was able to look up my own report that same day...). Sounds like this kid is useless. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Mar 08 - 12:51 PM I had the damned CD burned and put into my file while I was standing there talking to the Tech. That was Wednesday. It was to be seen by a radiologist on Friday, the results sent to my boner by Monday afternoon so he could be ready for my Wednesday (8:45 a.m.) appointment. Bobert ol' buddy, I think someone is yankin' you around. Get thee up to that UVA place and get it done right the first time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Mar 08 - 03:07 PM Bobert, you have some interest in your beautiful little Ghia. link. Too bad to have to sell it for this reason, but good thing you have it to sell for this reason. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Mar 08 - 03:17 PM Bobert, you forgot the "smear" the license tag on one of the photos. http://home.comcast.net/~k4dpf/images/ghiadrvrrearqtr.jpg One of the back views. Do the photoshop touchup and save it in the same place and the same name and it won't upset your web page on eBay. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 08 - 03:42 PM Well, I didn't do the actual listing... A friend did it... I really don't care about the license not being smeared... But thanks fir postin' a link, SRS... Yeah, Rap... I'm gonna get my boney butt to UVA this week... I had the MRI done this past Tuesday and they said the longest it would take would be a week to read so I'll have the results no later than Tuesday... If not, then I'll send 'um to you, Becca... Right now the kid has 'um and it's a 2 hour drive up0 there to get 'um from him and as mad as the P-Vine is right now she'd prolly whup his butt if she were to see him so... ...fir now it's hurry up and wait... Normal... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 15 Mar 08 - 04:20 PM Ya gotta wonder, though, why Rapaire is sending MRI results to his boner. Remedial education? I don't quite get it... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Mar 08 - 08:59 PM Thas a purty car, Bobert. Iffen it had shine tanks built inta the doors and backseat I might bid on it my own self. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Mar 08 - 01:12 AM Rap, it's a standard transmission and your clutch foot/leg is bumbed out right now. How would you drive it home? Use your cane to poke the pedal with every up and down shift? Or mash the gears and coast into Pocatello in neutral? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Mar 08 - 01:15 AM I drive a 5-speed manual all the time. In fact, both cars are stick. It hurts a bit to use the clutch, so I just don't stop and then I don't have to shift. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 16 Mar 08 - 08:37 AM Nah, just synchro shift....unless you really, REALLY have to do a full stop. Maybe a train coming? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 08 - 09:35 AM Mah Gawd, Sorch... You go, girl... I didn't know that any womenz knew how to shift without the clutch... I'm impressed... Sho nuff am... Reminds me of drivin' up to the ol' MCI center to hear Dyaln and the Band back in the 70's and came out, cranked up my '66 Bug an' the clutch cable gave way... Gad to wait until everyone had left and then started the car in 1st gear and syncro shifted from the MCI Center back to Richmond, Va... Richmond was a little tricky but it was 'bout 3:00 in the mornin' when I got there and I planned my route very carefully so as to not catch many red lights and only ran two ot three of 'um before makin' it home... Fun night... The tickets were in nose bleed section and all that second hand cannibus made the drive home a little more fun... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 16 Mar 08 - 10:36 AM Hey...I once drove home from downtown Casper to Torrington, 150 miles, with NO clutch...cable broke.....I 'California'd' the single actual STOP sign in Lingle.....and I heaved a HUGE sigh of relief when I hit the driveway at home! LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 08 - 11:29 AM You be da' man, Sorch... lol... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Mar 08 - 11:44 AM When I was typing my reply I couldn't think of the word (synchro--how is that for a senior moment?). I have also resorted to that maneuver in my many years of standard transmissions. Trouble is that now most of the newer vehciles don't come with a standard nearly as robust as what the automatic can do. I have an 8 year old truck (Chevy Silverado) and when I was shopping I tried for another standard. The only one they had on the lot was a stripped down ugly monster and had no power and too many rough edges in the shifter. Maybe if I ever reach a stage where this one driver can afford to own more than one vehicle (and justify it to myself) then I'll find a car with a good standard. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bill D Date: 16 Mar 08 - 12:23 PM Hey, Bobert...I had a VW bus a few years ago, and the Getaway used to be held in Prince William Park, 20 miles south of DC just off I95. As I was leaving there, MY clutch cable broke, and I drove that beast up 95 and around the beltway in moderate traffic! Such fun! When I had to stop,I'd coast to the breakdown lane and wait for a clear spot again. That was only the 2nd time in 35 years I'd tried to syncro-shift. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 08 - 12:36 PM How come I find that story very believable, Bill??? lol... Seriously, I had a 60 bus... It was a panel version with barn doors on both sides... Even with a 60 hp engine it I had to draft big trucks to hold 65 mph... Tell you one thing... Dr. Ferdinand Porsche had nothing to do with designing them critters... lol... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Mar 08 - 12:40 PM Too bad you couldn't have got Fat Freddy's Cat to ride shotgun, Bobert. It sounds like he would've felt right at home. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Mar 08 - 12:42 PM Had a column shift car that would lock up every so often. One time I drove across an intersection (in town) using the starter motor! We had to unlock the shift by hand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM Lol, LH... Yeah, I remember that flea bag sumabichin' cat... He prolly woulda figured out a way to crap in the heat vent... Grrrrrrrr... Here kitty, here kitty... Ol' Bobert has some tastey tuna fish fir ya'... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:53 AM My old boss's wife was driving to her home town in her new Olds 88, cruising along with the air conditioning on. She couldn't figure out why no one would approach the car when she got there. Turned out she'd hit a skunk and knocked it up on top of the engine block.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 08 - 11:16 AM Pass the BBQ sauce... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Mar 08 - 12:27 PM Did the insurance company total the car right away, or did she have to park it in their lot to convince them? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 12:28 PM And the respirator suits! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 12:48 PM True story: When I was living in Ohio, a motorist reported to the Ohio State Patrol that there was a dead black bear on a certain state highway. Well, EVERYONE knew there were no black bears in Ohio, so the guy was laughed off. Very, very annoyed he drove back, loaded the dead bear in his pickup, drove back to the OSP station and dumped the carcass in the parking lot. He then went in and told the cops and then went home. The cops called the Fish & Game people, who assured them that it was, indeed, a dead black bear. F&G, however, did not remove dead animals.... It was July...and it took three days to find someone who would remove the dead bear from the copshop lot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:31 PM LOL! What a lovely story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Richard Bridge Date: 17 Mar 08 - 05:22 PM When I was much younger I was a van driver one summer for Curry's teh UK electrical retailer. I had to take a Bedford CF from Gravesend to Bromley. About 2 miles on my way the clutch stopped disengaging, so I happily carried on with clutchless changes - until I got to a set of road works. Single file traffic, lights went red, nowhere to go. Uphill. No chance the starter motor would get the van moving uphill in first, and not enough width to turn round and too much traffic to start in reverse and back down. Nice summer day, phoned the maintenance people, sat on grass verge in sun (watching girls in summer dresses) until maintenance arrived and got paid for it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 05:42 PM Having driven standard vehicles...but never having had a clutch cable break or a clutch fail...I'm not quite sure what all this is about making clutchless gear changes. Can someone explain it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Becca72 Date: 17 Mar 08 - 06:10 PM I'm only on my 2nd manual transmission, having only learned to drive one 4 years ago..I'm in the same boat as Little Hawk with the clutchless shifting...and really hoping it doesn't happen to me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 06:42 PM Basically, you can shift without the clutch when the car reaches a certain rpm. This varies by car so you have to work at it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:05 PM Bear in mind that transmissions are notoriously expensive should you break it practicing.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:06 PM So...practice in someone else's car. Bobert has an old Karman Ghia that would be perfect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:25 PM Oh, okay...that makes sense. You'd have to time it rather carefully, wouldn't you? ;-) It would make for some wear and tear on the nerves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:36 PM You want to watch your RPMs and pay attention when you pass through neutral. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:41 PM Okay, here is how this is accomplised... There is this magic rpm range where the gear you are in and the gear you want to shift up to have good karma... Each car is different but if you kinda keep a little force on the gear shift in the direction of the next gear when that magic spot comes into play the shifter will effortlessly and smoothy go into the next gear but it's alot like making love to a gorilla.... Yer gonna have to do it on the gorilla's terms... That's what I mean by that magic spot... On a VW I can do it without thinking... Even when the clutch is fine I frequently synco shift it anyway... It's a lot like letting the force be with you... Not too technical but accurate... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:11 PM Cool! I understand the principle. It would just take some familiarization with the particular car to get to know where those spots were. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:14 PM As fir a medical update: Health care in the US of A is great as long as you are super rich... Unfortunately, that ain't me... The MRI came back in record time (6 days) and it says that I have some degenative stuff that probablu 25% of folks my age also have... No herniated discs... So I ask the nurse who has called to report that what I do next to find where the pain and tingling ios coming from and she said, "Ahhhh, Bobz, I don't know..." so I says to her, "Have the real doc call me and he did this evenin' and that was like a joke... "Ahhhh, Bobz, the report says yer fine"??? "No, doc... I ain't fine... I ain't been fine in pushin' 3 months now... That's why I come to you folks, ain't it" I had to plead with the guy to send my MRI and records off to UVA where on Wednesday I'm gonna call and try to get an appointment with a Nurosergoen... Heck, I might have to plead with him, too... Does Dick Cheney go thru this stuff??? Nevermind... All I know is that I've been paying close to $1000 a month for health insurance for years and years, have barely used it and now it seems that the great US health care system couldn't give rat's ass if I'm in pain 24/7 or not... Oh sure they are perfectly willing to shove painkillers in me but fix the problem??? Nevermind... I'm just a tad steamed tonight... Gig season is upon me and I can't even pick up a friggin' geetar... B:( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:24 PM Sounds pretty typical to me, Bobert. Doctors are quite often, it seems, at a loss in being able to tell you exactly why something like that is happening...or what can be done about it...but they can give you some drugs so you won't feel the pain for awhile. The pain is your body telling you that something is wrong. Now all this tells me is that doctors are...like the rest of us humans...neither omniscient nor omnipotent. But I knew that already. Have you tried acupuncture yet? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:39 PM No, but it's on my short list, LH... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:58 PM Ya know, Bobert, them MRI files are YOURS. You can have 'em sent where ever you want to. You can even keep a copy and post 'em on the innernet iffen ya want. Show 'em as a background at your next gig -- and there be one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:05 PM LH...if a WOMAN can do it, YOU can TOO! LOL...you listen, you feel....and do it gently. If you do it right, it's actually easier than using the clutch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:07 PM Now let's talk about pop-starting the car when the battery's dead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:22 PM I believe you, SORCHA. I've just never yet had to, that's all... ;-) They say that necessity is the mother of invention, don't they? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:33 PM Well, I've heard it as "Necessity is a mother." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:40 PM I love it when womenz talk dirty, Sorch... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:43 PM Yeah? Well, you should go to Blind River and meet some of the girls Shane has "done time with". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 17 Mar 08 - 10:33 PM Bobert: If you DON'T have a herniated disc, you may be in real luck. It is possible all this suffering is from a pinched nerve. Get a real chiropractor who can use transdermal electro-stimulation, massage, and adjustment to (a) unpinch it (b)calm it down from spasming and (c) relax the muscles if this is the case. In other words, ya needs to do all three in a serious subluxation. I yam not a doctor of anything, but I know I've been through some big pain that resolved this way. If it IS herniated and the (*&*(_) doc just isn't finding it, that's another story. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 18 Mar 08 - 02:53 PM Don't you mean "women who have done time with Shane" (God rest his soul)? I mean, just being in the presence of the late "Shane" would be punishment enough for any sins you had committed or might commit in the future. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Mar 08 - 03:11 PM Just being in his presence is an unforgettable experience, Rap. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 18 Mar 08 - 03:39 PM Was, not is. Poor old "Shane." He's not with us anymore. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 18 Mar 08 - 07:25 PM Well, yeah, Amos... It is definately a pinched nerve... When a disc blows out that causes a pinched nerve... Otyher things can cause them, too, like imflamation and injuries and stuff that IO don't even know about... I have not ruled out a chiroprator but I would like to zero in on where the nerve in pinched before doing something that might make matters even worse... I hope to be talking with a neuro-ologist or sergeon this week to try to pin point where it is pinched... Once I know that then I'll explore the various trearment options... But thanks... I'm trying to play smart here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 18 Mar 08 - 07:48 PM I done got my knife all sharpened up, Bobert. Jist lemme know when you wanna be cut. I kin cut real good. The folks at the roundups out here say my bag-slitting is some of the best they've seen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bill D Date: 18 Mar 08 - 07:52 PM That IS the point, Bobert. Some 'pinches' can be treated easier than others. Mine was relatively easy, as the MRI showed the little bone spur that was rubbing the nerve and making my right arm hurt so bad I had to sleep with it on a pillow. I STILL can't look at a helicopter over my left shoulder without numbness starting. *IF* they can identify the precise point, Cortisone might help..or relatively minor surgery. But chiropractors could do more harm than good if they irritate it more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 19 Mar 08 - 08:41 AM Bobert, in two hours I'll know my fate. Will the doc say there is nothing wrong? Will he order physical therapy? Is an operation in my future? Will he amputate my knee at the neck? Stay tuned. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: catspaw49 Date: 19 Mar 08 - 10:37 AM I'm bettin' it ain't nothin' but trapped gas........... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 19 Mar 08 - 12:14 PM Well, there's a little tear in the meniscus and a lot of fluid around the joint. This tells him that something is wrong. He wants to give the cortisone which he injected last time more time to work. So I go back to see him on May 12, "but come earlier if you have to." He also gave me a prescription for T3 and said to do "gentle exercise." I asked him if this meant I had to cancel out of the bronc riding at the Rodeo (it starts today) and he said yes. Also bull riding, steer wrestling, roping, and even mutton busting is out. My knee still hurts, dammit. And I'm using a walking stick to get around with. (I wanted a sword cane but my wife got all irrelevant on me.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Richard Bridge Date: 19 Mar 08 - 02:15 PM A clutch links the flywheel of the engine to the input shaft of the gearbox. In the gearbox are gears. In principle (this is not right in detail, just in principle) one set go round with the input shaft. The appropriate one of those has to mesh with the appropriate one of the ones on teh output shaft - which is connected to teh propshaft which turns the diff that turns the rear wheels. It's the same idea on front wheel drive or rear engine, but everything is sort of folded in on itself. So WHATEVER speed the rear wheels are going round at, if the car is in first gear, the input shaft is going round faster than it would be if it was in second gear and so on. So when you want to change down you ahve to speed the input shaft up and when you change up you wait for the input shaft to slow down. If those gears are not matched in speed when you try to slide them together you will get a nasty graunching noise. If you disengage the clutch, then there is nothing but a bit of friction to control the speed of the input shaft. Synchromesh provides that friction, and the sychromesh rings won't let you push the gears together until the speeds are matched (until they wear out). If you have no syncromesh it's up to you to speed the input shaft up when changing down. So, here you go. You are in top. Put your foot on the clutch. Move the gearlever into neutral (no gears touching each other). Now take your foot off the clutch. Now the engine controls the input shaft. Rev it up just right, till the speeds of the gears match, dp teh clutch again, and pop the lever into third and take your foot off the clutch again. That's double declutching. You can do the same thing (whether the car has synchromesh or not) without using the clutch if you are careful and delicate. Rolling along in top, lift off the accelerator until the engine is not trying to make the car go faster, nor is it trying to slow it down. The gearlever will slip out of gear easily. Now the engine controls the input shaft. Rev it up just right, and because the gears will be going round at the same speed as each other, you can slip it (silently, you hope) into third. Now practice until you can hear that difference right every time! Changing up is a little different. You don't have to rev the engine up, just let it die away to the right moment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 19 Mar 08 - 02:56 PM I heard the difference once, just before the tranny tore itself to pieces and quit working. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 20 Mar 08 - 12:00 PM Thanks fir the clutch stuff, Richard... Sounds like you gotta grip on yer situatuion, Rap... Wish I could say the same here... The good news is that I'm not one of the 47 Million people without health insurance... The bad news is that UVA can't see me until May?!?!?!?... Bet they would have squeezed Dick Cheney in but that's another matter... But the P-Vine worked the appointment lady over purdy good this nmorning and maybe they'll try to get me in earlier than May... Maybe my butt... So I got another recommended neurosergeon down in Northern Virginia who I hjave an appointment with a week from this Monday, Mar 31st... Hey, what other choices do I have??? Welcome to George Bush's America where if yer rich you don't have to wait on stuff... Grrrrrrrr!!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 20 Mar 08 - 12:17 PM Tell them he's not coming and you'll take Cheney's appointment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:49 AM Well, folks... It's off to the city... NoVa that is... Gonna finally get to see a real specialist who hyopefully will have a clue as to where the nerve is pinched and better yet, how to fix it... Wish the ol' hillbilly luck... (The P-Vine is driving...*grin*...) B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 31 Mar 08 - 11:55 AM The best of the best of luck to you. This is the first step to the new pain-free, healthy you. OK? Love, Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 31 Mar 08 - 12:13 PM Yes good luck mate, my back is rapidly following the same track as your shoulder, it's been sore for 2 weeks now, and doesn't seem to be getting any better G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 31 Mar 08 - 01:16 PM Giok: Go to Edinburgh Castle (that big thing on top of the hill). Go to the basement area called "the dungeon." Ask one of the nice guides there if you can try out "the rack." (You might even make some money in tips from the visitors!) This will do wonders for you. No, no, don't thank me. Your good health is thanks enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: SINSULL Date: 31 Mar 08 - 01:34 PM Can I turn the crank, Giok? PLEEAAASSSEEEEE? So sorry you two are having so much pain. It isn't any fun. Good luck with your new doctor, Bobert. Giok - get thee to a medical man. SINS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: jacqui.c Date: 31 Mar 08 - 03:05 PM Good luck Bobert. I hope things go well today. Giok - get that back sorted - fast! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:11 PM Well, it's like Groundhog Day... Yeah, I met with this lady and she is like top notch and she says that she thinks that when I originally had a massauge therapist work on me that this person "smushed" the nerve??? "Smushed"??? Okay, doc, so what does that mean??? Well, it might take awhile... Like, what's exactly "awile"??? Oh, maybe another 2 to 4 months... Oh, just shoot me!!! So, IO was hopin' for more but the good news is that I don't need this lady to cut on me... The bad news is that I'm just gonna hjave to wait it out and the P-Vine will get frustrated drivin' the mower, the tractor and doing stuff that I can't do and one night she'll just slip a punkin' ball into the .410 and then there won't be any more Bobert posts here on Mudcat... B:( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Sorcha Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:22 PM Aw, now, the PVine ain't gonna do that. You just mind yer manners and yer self, and you'll be fine in no time. Whaddya mean ya don't know what Smushed means? It's a fine medical term for uh, well, smooshed. Squished, squashed...whatever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: SINSULL Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:40 PM 1/2 a step above smashed. 2-4 months? Did she at least give you some interesting drugs? P-Vine will stand by her man. She has put up with you too long now to give up. One day at a time. August is just around the corner. SINS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 31 Mar 08 - 10:17 PM Have you considered driving them things in a prone position? And you know the P-Vine ain't gonna shoot ya cuz she's very non-violent. That means she'll slip some rat poison into yer oatmeal instead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Ebbie Date: 01 Apr 08 - 12:55 AM Geez. What kind of massage did you have? Rolf? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: JennieG Date: 01 Apr 08 - 03:09 AM Smushed....must remember that next time I am looking for a technical medical term...... Hope you can get un-smushed before too long Bobert, as we would hate to have to bail out the lovely P-Vine. Cheers JennieG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 01 Apr 08 - 11:51 AM And here's a technical term used for computers that don't work: busted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 01 Apr 08 - 11:56 AM Busted, smushed and broken, Gee this life is swell, Entropy is everywhere Fighting it is hell. Things tend toward the chaos That awaits us all, Bringing order ain't no fun, Fixing stuff's no ball. Why's it all so difficult, Are we all just jerks? Busted, smushed and broken, Oh, why don't things just work? Thom Alveola Meddison Cantation for a Higher Temple Brunswick, ME, 1932 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 01 Apr 08 - 02:33 PM Well, that purdy much exhausts the subject of "smushed"... As for drugs??? Yeah, it's called, ahhhh, "Gabapentin, 300 mg" and I found out why it tells you not to drive or operate machinery... This sh*t is good... Got me all messed up purdy good... As fir the pain??? Ahhhhh, who cares??? Not me... As fir the P-Vine bein' non-violent??? Well, yeah, but that don't mean that she ain't got other means of devilerin' the 55 gallon drum of whup-ass... Hey, My first wife was a 2nd degree black belt but she didn't have nuthin' on the P-Vine... I mean nuthin' at all... But nevermind that stuff... She has just informed me that I have better get my one armed, messed-up, boney butt outside to help her with some gardening... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 01 Apr 08 - 03:20 PM Hey, Bobert. I looked that shit up for ya. You're takin' it as a suppository, right? Here's some of the side effects. Apparently you get them all at once, but only nine out of ten people experience them. * Abdominal or stomach pain * Blistering, peeling, loosening and shedding of skin * Clay-colored stools * Coma * Confusion * Convulsions * Dark urine * Death * Decreased urine output * Diarrhea * Dizziness * Fast or irregular heartbeat * Flatulence, especially before or after sundown * Headache * Increased thirst * Itching * Joint pain * Large, hive-like swelling on face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, sex organs * Leprosy * Loss of appetite * Mummification * Muscle ache or pain * Nausea * Petrification * Red irritated eyes * Red skin lesions, often with a purple center and oozing pus * Skin rash and necrosis * Sores, oozing ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips * Unpleasant breath odor * Unusual tiredness or weakness * Vomiting of blood * Yellow eyes or skin Oh, yeah. Don't breast feed when you're taking this medicine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 08 - 04:52 AM Oh well, nothing to worry about there ;) ROFLMFAO G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: gnu Date: 02 Apr 08 - 04:55 AM Bad breath? I wouldn't take that! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Apr 08 - 08:13 AM No, Rap... You have it confused... It asin't no suppositiry... It's a danged pill... (But, Boberdz... Maybe you are 'sposed to be depoistin' in a different place...You better go reread the directions...) I'll get back to ya', Rap... I think I know why it messed me up so much... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 08 - 08:38 AM Don't leave it too late before you change your mind Bobert. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 02 Apr 08 - 10:05 AM Now, some folks would say that even if he got it wrong, it won't change the process, because of certain idiosyncratic physiognomic aspects of Bobert's disposition. But I don't hold with that. I've seen him play. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 08 - 10:13 AM I've seen him play guitar. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Apr 08 - 10:53 AM Well, guess what... I got in about 10 minutes geetar work last night... Of course that was the meds, several beer and the burbning of a little evidence... Okay, it was just 10 minutes but it's the first playin' I've done in a long time... Sounded good... I think... Heck, to be honest, I don't have a clue what it sounded like... BTW, folks, seein' as I have 'nuff time to get un-messed-up before the Getaway I'm gonna warn ya' all that I'm gonna bring and play my cigar box geetar, with small 10W amp... Yopu7 ain't heard the blues 'til you hear it with a cigar box geetar... Okay, that's 'bout my typin' limit fir now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: jacqui.c Date: 02 Apr 08 - 12:26 PM Good news Bobert - both the playing for 10 minutes AND the promise to get to the Getaway. Life is good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 02 Apr 08 - 12:31 PM Jacqui, with the stuff he's takin' he could set himself on fire and life would be good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 08 - 12:48 PM Better add 'combustion' to that list Rap. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Apr 08 - 01:15 PM Hey, ya' all... I read all the possible side effects and "combustion" ain't nowhere in there... One thing I did leave out is that the doc said the3 nerve would heal at its oen rate but that using my arm, even though it hurts, won't change the length of time... I thought that kinda wierd but what the hell??? So I'm doing housework today... You know, pickin' up after the P-Vine... Grrrrrrr.... I feel a womenz thread comin' on... Back to work... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: peregrina Date: 02 Apr 08 - 01:20 PM Very glad to hear it's 'only' smushing--good luck with recovering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 02 Apr 08 - 01:31 PM It's under "spontaneous combustion" Bobert. It means that you'll suddenly burst into flame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 02 Apr 08 - 06:44 PM Well yeah, Rap, but it don't say that in the piece of paper... Says lotta other scarey stuff but nuthin' about blowing up 'er burstin' into flames... I mean, nuthin'... I read it 3 or 5 time and I ain't gonna burn up from these pills... Plus it says to "take by mouth" right on the label... So that tell me that you ain't 'sposed to stick 'um, ahhhhhhhhhh, you know where... I'm kinda likin' 'um... They are gel caps with powder inside and I was wondering what it would be like to, ahhhhhh, dniff a little bit of the powder thru a rolled up one dollar bill... Nevermind that last thought... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Apr 08 - 01:20 PM I've had a sore right shoulder for months now, Bobert. Not wretchedly painful like yours, though...just uncomfortable and not as flexible as it ought to be. It's slowly, slowly getting better. A little bit more stretch as time goes by. So I figure that time is probably what will cure your problem. I do some mild stretching and it seems to help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 11 Apr 08 - 08:13 PM Well, well, well... Looks as if we have a priliminary diagnosis and it it... ...."Brachial plexopathy".... Great.... A few things can bring this on and opne of them is the existence of a "tumor"... So today I enderwent yer another MRI, this time with dye injected into the ol' hillbilly.... It was s long MRI... Maybe an hour and a half long... Recon I'll know somehtin' next week... If their ain't no tumor than it's gonna be a waitin' game... Could eb a week or a month or 6 months before it subsides... And it may not subside or it may subside partially... But in most cases it subsudes fully meaning that if I am in that category, I'll be leaduing the blues jam at the Getaway and foing... ...a mini concert.... Will keep everyone posted... B:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Amos Date: 11 Apr 08 - 08:23 PM Brachiial plexopathy? I think it is Latin for {"Sore all over" or something. WHat does that fancy handle say about the anture of the beast and its remedies, aside from "could be sompn serious or not"? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 11 Apr 08 - 08:39 PM Awll, amos, ol' bud.... There ain't much in the way to treatment fir it other than piling yer butt up with ab bunch of nati-seizers meds which kinda, somtimes help the nuerons get reacquinted....I bee on them fir a couple weeks... The don't operate machibery has made for some intersting moments... Other than ose interestin' momemts this stuff sucks... I am way tired of having this so if there is anyone out there who would like to have itm feel free to come and get as much as you like... I ain't been away fro playing geeter like this in over 40 years.... Free to good home... lol B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: frogprince Date: 11 Apr 08 - 10:38 PM Wotin'ell does "I'll be...foing" mean? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 08 - 04:17 AM I thought this was a music site? f is fortissimo as any fule kno, and oing is a verb which describes the act of backing a doowop song. So he's singing loudly behind Amos the human juke-box of course. Anywho, Bobert meant doing, which is the sound a bell makes when you hit it with something hard, like GiGi's head! OK? G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Apr 08 - 08:21 AM Well gol danged... Couple Iron City beers and them pills they got me on make fir some more than usaul interestin' Bobert readin'... Man, I should stay the heck away from this thing at night 'cause I come back the next day and don't have a clue what I said... It does say right there on the pill bottle not to operate machinery so I guess that's what they mean...Even pudders is off limits... Also says that the side effects maybe greater if ya' drenk Iron Cities... Like I was tryin' to say is that I should know this next week if there is any tumor activity and if there ain't then they are gonna keep me on these anit-seizuer meds that is supposed to help the neurons get reacquainted and that in most cases it it juts matter of time but in some cases folks don't get fully revovered... All I know is that if I take me a handfull of pills and 6 Iron Cities that I can play geeter fir about 5 -10 minutes at night... Burnin' a little evidence don't hurt non either... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Apr 08 - 11:31 AM Yeah, and taking enough of them pills plus Iron City kin fix it so you don't play geeter every agin. In fact, you'll just lay there dressed up in yer Sunday best, a shit-eatin' grin on yer face, until they close the lid on ya and screw it down. Be careful out there, ya hear? Cuz if you ain't, I'm gonna have to come out there and slap some sense into ya with a oak 2x4. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 12 Apr 08 - 06:29 PM Ya. better bring yer own oak 2X4, Rap, 'cause unless you pay thru the nose all yer gonna find 'round these parts is pine... Hey, Rap... Man, I need you to come down here and help me kill this danged groundhog... He has more lives than a cat... If I walk out back witout a gun there he is... If I have the gun, he ain't nowhere to be found... Okay, 'cept night before last an' I was laying fir him... Yeah I had me a pill and took a couple Iron Cities out to the ferrowing barn that has a window out of it 'bout 75 'er 90 feet from Mr. G-Hog's den which is under my equipement barn... So he comes on out and immediately climbs up on top of some 6X6 blocks that I have styacked and behind them is a nice Warm Mornings porpane heater which I really don't wnat to shoot... But I'm patient and agter about 20 minutes me gets down where I have a shot at him with the .410.... Click... Huh???? Hey, don't ask me... May be bolt wasn't down far enough to engage the firing pin for the lower chamber but Mr. G-Hog heard the click and now was headed back to the hole as I pull the bold up for the .22, recocked and got off a prayer shot (open sights) and missed the sumabich... Maybe I'll get him tonight... Wow, it's about time for him to come out... Better go get set up.... Yeah, Im shooting lefty but that's good... I've always shot lefty??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 12 Apr 08 - 09:15 PM Okay, Bobert, here's whatcha do. Go down to the store and tell 'em you gotta blast some stumps. Just a coupla sticks of dynamite'll do; make sure you get a couple electrical blasting caps too. Put one stick of dynamite and one cap away, maybe in the house, but at least a hunnerd yards away. Now put a point on a wooden dowel and poke a hole from the top of the stick of dynamite about a quarter way down the stick and drop in the cap, the wires gotta stick out the top. Tape the wires in place. Twist some regular old copper wire onto the cap wires and tape it in place. Use a LOT of copper wire, now! Find that ol' 'hog's hole and using a long stick shove that capped stick of boom-boom way down in the hole. Now walk as far away as the copper wire'll let ya. Touch one strand of wire to one pole of a car battery and the other to the other (clamp the wires to jumper cables if yer chicken). BOOM! No more Mr. Ground Hog AND you got the start for a nice fish pond! Use the second stick and cap if you don't get him on the first try. Jist remember what the man said, "The is no problem so large or so complicated that it cannot be solved with the correct amount of high explosives." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Fortunato Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:02 AM Glad to hear you're playing again. cheers chance |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:22 AM Well, Chance, ol' buddy, 10 minutes a day ain't like, ahhhhhhh, playin' again but I'll take it... Won't miss this stuff when it's gone... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Apr 08 - 02:11 PM Hey Bobert! Suppose you untune your geeter and twang it a bit just for that there groundhog? Think that'd knock him over dead, or maybe stun him enough you kin get rid of him? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Apr 08 - 02:23 PM Use this and get your full quota of beauty sleep Bobert. G |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Apr 08 - 06:41 PM I just picked up a dead vole from my front yard. I poisoned the sucker last evening. And I'll keep doing it, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 08 - 06:53 PM If ya' run outta poison, let me know, Rap... I buy it by the case... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Janie Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:12 PM Bobert, I think you done run that groundhog off. Leastwise, that is the only explanation I have for the bold feller that I thought was a new neighborhood cat exploring my front porch this morning - leastwise, until I saw it's ugly mug. I figured he was good and lost, and most likely new to these parts. (no kidding - I've never had one stroll up a 5 foot rise of steps and hang out on the front veranda before. Bold little b*stard.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:40 PM If he's actin' like that then he prolly all rabbied up... Smack him with a shovel a couple times and take his poor body off to the local landfill... That's what the P-Vine has threatened to do wid me if I don't get this tuff off me... She says it will be a mercy killin'... Heck, I still got one good arm... That G-hog is no good... My G-hog ain't him, tho... I just looked out the window and the sumabich is eatin grass on the back of the farm... He knows I gotta an open sight 410/22 so he ain't the slightest bit worried... I'm gonna get him befoe the beets come up...He went theu a row of them last year... Okay, I ain't into the beet part but I love beet tops and that's what he loves, too... Gonna be his downfall 'cause I shoot lefty and next time he's in my sights he gona go to that big ol' beet row in the sky... Sho nuff is... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rapparee Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:44 PM Really fix 'im, Bobert. Cook him up with the beet tops. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Rumncoke Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:00 PM I just got a TENS machine - I've got a knee that has hurt for years, every step I took, some days more, some times less, and it threw my balance off, made my hips ache and my back protest - half a dozen 15 minute sessions and it is not hurting most of the time. It only cost me 15 pounds sterling - about 30 US dollars, - batteries not included. No one told me about these things - even after physiotherapy and painkillers failed. Then last week I called in at the pharmacy and saw one, got a rundown on what not to do with it, took one home and today I was even thinking of taking a walk, until the hailstones started to fall. Maybe - perhaps? one of these could be of some help to you? Look it up on Google or Wiki it. I do hope so, I feel that I have drawn a real live 'get out of jail' card. Anne |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Seriously Messed Up.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:49 PM Never heard of it but I'll be doing a little Googling right now... Thanks... B~ |
