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George Martin and influence


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RTim 28 Jan 21 - 08:04 PM
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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: RTim
Date: 28 Jan 21 - 08:04 PM

Before being involved with The Beatles - George Martin was the recording producer and engineer on many, if not all, recordings by American Baritone John (Jack) Langstaff - who later became to architect of the Revels Performances..

Tim Radford

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jan 21 - 07:47 PM

Not yet, Dr. but I've bookmarked it, sounds interesting.

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 28 Jan 21 - 04:21 PM

RE: Get Back eventually released as Let It Be -

...he was given the shittiest load of badly recorded shit, with a lousy feeling toward it, ever. And he made something out of it. He did a great job. [J.Lennon]

When EMI informed Martin that he would not get a production credit because Spector produced the final version, he commented "I produced the original, and what you should do is have a credit saying 'Produced by George Martin, over-produced by Phil Spector' [G.Martin]

The majority opinion is always... "don't know -- don't care." Knowing and caring and liking, defined as commercial consumption, will narrow the niche to >1% market share.

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 28 Jan 21 - 12:35 PM

Cheers, gillymor. Have you had a listen?

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Jan 21 - 04:30 AM

Producing the Beatles- new episodes

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 09:33 PM

Podcast “Producing the Beatles” by Kruppa sheds a lot of light on Martin’s involvement. I’ve only heard the “Strawberry Fields” episode, but fascinating material.... No clue how to point to (or link) podcasts—new to me ¿.?   
keep on pickin’

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: GUEST,Lou
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 08:16 PM

Nice to be reminded again about Martin! Do you have a link to here this text was found?
link (click)

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 07:11 PM

When the Beatles came up with
"(She Loves You) Yeah Yeah Yeah"
Martin objected to
that final chord in the vocal harmony,
thought it was too corny.
The Beatles left it that way anyhow.

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Subject: RE: George Martin and influence
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 04:01 AM

As an arranger
Abbey Road Studios, where Martin recorded Parlophone's artists

Martin's formal musical expertise helped fill the gaps between the Beatles' unrefined talent and the sound which distinguished them from other groups, which eventually made them successful. Most of the Beatles' orchestral arrangements and instrumentation were written or performed by Martin, as well as frequent keyboard parts on the early records, in collaboration with the less musically experienced band.[40] It was Martin's idea to score a string quartet accompaniment for "Yesterday" against McCartney's initial reluctance.[40][41] Martin played the song in the style of Bach to show McCartney the voicings that were available.[42] Another example is the song "Penny Lane", which featured a piccolo trumpet solo that was requested by McCartney after hearing the instrument on a BBC broadcast. McCartney hummed the melody that he wanted, and Martin notated it for David Mason, the classically trained trumpeter.[43]

Martin's work as an arranger was used for many Beatles recordings. For "Eleanor Rigby," he scored and conducted a strings-only accompaniment inspired by Bernard Herrmann. On a Canadian speaking tour in 2007, Martin said that his "Eleanor Rigby" score was influenced by Herrmann's score for the Alfred Hitchcock thriller Psycho.[44] For "Strawberry Fields Forever", he and recording engineer Geoff Emerick turned two very different takes into a single master through careful use of vari-speed and editing.[45] For "I Am the Walrus", he provided a quirky and original arrangement for brass, violins, cellos, and the Mike Sammes Singers vocal ensemble.[46][47][48] On "In My Life", he played a speeded-up baroque piano solo.[49] He worked with McCartney to implement the orchestral climax in "A Day in the Life", and he and McCartney shared conducting duties the day that it was recorded.[50]

Martin contributed integral parts to other songs, including the piano in "Lovely Rita",[51] the harpsichord in songs such as "Because" and "Fixing a Hole"; the old steam organ and tape loop arrangement that created the Pablo Fanque circus atmosphere that Lennon requested on "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!" (both Martin and Lennon played steam organ parts for this song), and the orchestration in "Good Night".[52][53][54] The first song that Martin did not arrange was "She's Leaving Home", as he had a prior engagement to produce a Cilla Black session, so McCartney contacted arranger Mike Leander to do it. Martin was reportedly hurt by this, but still produced the recording and conducted the orchestra himself.[55] Martin was in demand as an independent arranger and producer by the time of the band's 1968 self-titled double album (also known as the "White Album"), so the Beatles were left to produce various tracks by themselves.[56]

Martin composed and arranged the score for the Beatles' film Yellow Submarine[57] and the James Bond film Live and Let Die, for which Paul McCartney wrote and sang the title song.[58] He helped arrange Paul and Linda McCartney's American number 1 single "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey".[59]

Paul McCartney once commended Martin by saying: "George Martin [was] quite experimental for who he was, a grown-up."[60]

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Subject: George Martin and influence
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Jan 21 - 03:52 AM

Sir George Martin, CBE (3 January 1926 – 8 March 2016) was an English record producer, arranger, composer, conductor, audio engineer, and musician. He was referred to as the "Fifth Beatle" in reference to his extensive involvement on each of the Beatles' original albums. Paul McCartney said upon Martin's death, "If anyone earned the title of the fifth Beatle, it was George".
George was I believe responsible for the suggestion of the introductory chord at the beginning of Hard Days Night
The chord was confirmed by George Harrison as an Fadd9 during an online chat on 15 February 2001:

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