Subject: Beatles' George Harrison From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:23 AM Aw crap. Per CNN, George Harrison died 29th November, in the afternoon, in Los Angeles, at a friend's home, with family present. Cancer. A private service is said to have already been held. ~Susan Previous threads here and here |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Amergin Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:35 AM well...shit....at least he is in no more pain.... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:36 AM From: http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/30/harrison.obit/ ======================================================== Beatle George Harrison dies of cancer November 30, 2001 Posted: 3:25 AM EST (0825 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- George Harrison, the lead guitarist in the astonishing 1960s cultural phenomenon known as the Beatles, died on Thursday at age 58. Harrison passed away at a friend's Los Angeles home after a battle with cancer. Harrison provided lead guitar -- sometimes energetic, sometimes moving -- in the Beatles' many hits, while evolving into a songwriter in his own right who would deliver some of the band's best-known tunes. Despite his success, his career and talent were often eclipsed by the shadows of Beatles John Lennon and Paul McCartney. George Harrison was The Quiet One. The Shy One. The Serious One. The Sad One. Not a Lennon, not a McCartney. But Harrison was so much an influence on the music of the Beatles his contribution to the success of the world's most famous group cannot be underestimated. He was the man who, egged on by his first wife, Patti Boyd, brought Indian mysticism and meditation to the Fab Four. He was the man whose rockabilly playing on lead guitar underpinned all those early Beatles hits and whose wistful, lyrical style later forged the psychedelic sound of the late 60s. His life contained many contradictions. Despite his reputation as the quiet one of the four, Monty Python's Eric Idle remarked that Harrison never stopped talking. He seemed like a melancholy man, but was known to make terrific wisecracks. He was a spiritual man who liked Formula 1 motor racing. A rock star who was never happier than spreading fertilizer on his garden. He even dedicated his autobiography "I Me Mine" (1982) "to all gardeners everywhere."
Skiffle, rockabilly, and stardom His rebellious streak was shown when he defied school rules to grow long hair and wear jeans, something that didn't go down well with his strict Roman Catholic parents. Yet his mother bought him a guitar and he and his brother Peter formed a skiffle group. A more important musical friendship was with Paul McCartney. The two of them caught the same bus to school and found they had guitars, Chet Atkins, Duane Eddy and Lonnie Donegan in common. McCartney introduced him to his group The Quarrymen, but Harrison's age -- 14 -- meant it was some time before he became a regular member of the group. "I never asked to be famous, I just wanted to be successful," he would say later. By the time he was 16, Harrison joined The Quarrymen, led by John Lennon. While musicians moved in and out of the group, Lennon, McCartney and Harrison provided the foundation of the band that went on to achieve incredible fame and wealth. By the early 1960s, the musicians had changed their group's name to the Beatles, and their relentless touring gave birth to the delirium called Beatlemania in Great Britain and Germany. By 1963, with the addition of drummer Ringo Starr, the backing of manager Brian Epstein and the recording of the group's first hits -- "Love Me Do," and"Please Please Me" -- the Beatles were a raging success in their homeland.
On top of his craft The Beatles were always influencing one another. Harrison got the others interested in Eastern mysticism in the mid-1960s. They wrote melodic, harmonious pop tunes like "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You" -- tunes that altered the direction of rock 'n' roll while offering a soundtrack to baby- boom youth and the 1960s. As the Fab Four toured and held concerts in the United States, those songs could scarcely be heard above the sounds of screaming fans. Through it all, it was McCartney, Lennon and Starr who came up with the quick quips to serve the press. It was Harrison who played along, always turning to his guitar to learn more about the craft. He did take time for another partnership during this period. In 1964, while making the zany film "A Hard Day's Night," he met a teen-age model, Patti Boyd, with one line in the film ("Prisoners?"). They married in 1965. As the Beatles pushed the envelope of rock 'n' roll, Harrison's influence was evident. He learned how to play sitar, which helped propel the Beatles through their psychedelic period that included the decade-defining album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." Harrison also pushed for more of his songs to be included on Beatles releases. One story from Beatle legend tells of how he continually played an early version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" to McCartney and Lennon, and they continually voted that it wasn't up to snuff. Harrison responded by taking the song to friend Eric Clapton, who composed the song's poignant, pining riff. The Beatles included "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on one of their 1968 release, "The Beatles" (also known as the "White Album"), and it's come to be a standard of late Beatles fare. Other classics by Harrison: "Here Comes the Sun" and "Something." Harrison was the first Beatle to contribute to a project outside the band, offering songs on the movie soundtrack "Wonderwall Music." After the band's infamous breakup, he was the first to release a solo record -- 1970's "All Things Must Pass," a Phil Spector- produced album with the single "My Sweet Lord." The group's hesitancy in recording Harrison songs was cited as one reason for his discontent. He later said, "The biggest break in my career was getting into the Beatles in 1963. The second biggest break was getting out of them." Harrison was later sued by the publisher of the 1962 Chiffons' hit "He's So Fine," which bears a striking resemblance to "My Sweet Lord." A court ruled that Harrison "subconsciously" borrowed from the song, and he paid over $1.5 million. Still, "My Sweet Lord" was the first single by a former Beatle to top the charts.
Other directions Harrison's brooding nature worked itself into some of his work. His 1974 recording "Dark Horse" was fueled by the collapse of his marriage to Patti Boyd, who had been pursued by his friend Eric Clapton. In the mid-1970s, Harrison met his second wife Olivia, an assistant in the merchandizing department at A&M records. They had a son, Dhani, in 1978. (Clapton and Boyd later married and divorced.) Harrison also delved into movie producing. His company Handmade Films helped bring Monty Python's "Life of Brian" (1979) and "Time Bandits" (1981) to the big screen. In 1981, in the wake of John Lennon's murder at the hands of a crazed fan, Harrison released "Somewhere in England," which included the song "All Those Years Ago." McCartney and Starr were also heard on the popular single. In 1987, he released "Cloud Nine," featuring a rendition of a Rudy Clark gospel song called "Got My Mind Set on You," which reached No. 1 on U.S. charts. During the late '80s, Harrison also branched out with friends and fellow musicians Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne, and Roy Orbison to form the Traveling Wilburys, a band that released two albums that reached platinum status. But through all of his success away from the Beatles, Harrison -- as well as McCartney and Starr -- was constantly hounded by the question of whether or not the Beatles would reunite. Harrison used to respond to the query with something along the lines of, "The Beatles will not reunite as long as John Lennon is dead." Though late in his life Harrison lived in relative seclusion in a large estate in Oxfordshire, southern England, he almost suffered the same fate as Lennon. In 1999, he was attacked in his mansion by a psychotic. He had a lung punctured by the stabbing and it was said that only the prompt action by his wife Olivia, who hit the intruder over the head with a poker and a table lamp, saved his life. Harrison suffered 10 stab wounds. The defendant was later found not guilty because of insanity. Harrison recovered from the attack but was already engaged in the bout with cancer that would eventually kill him. He warded off throat cancer in 1998, then earlier this year he was treated for lung cancer. In July, after receiving radiotherapy treatment for cancer, the English newspaper the Daily Mail claimed Harrison was near death, prompting Harrison to issue a strongly worded statement denying the report. "We are disappointed and disgusted by the report," it said. "It was unsubstantiated, untrue and totally uncalled for, when in fact Mr. Harrison is active and feeling very well. It has caused untold distress amongst our family and friends." This fall, the Beatles were once again on the minds of many: A tribute concert to Lennon was held in New York not long after the September 11 terrorist attacks; and McCartney headlined an October New York benefit concert to help victims of the attacks. Harrison did not attend either event. But his music will be long remembered. He once said: "I think people who can live their life in music are telling the world: 'You can have my love, you can have my smiles. Forget the bad parts, you don't need them. Just take the music, the goodness, because it's the very best, and it's the part I give most willingly." Funeral plans for Harrison have not been released.
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Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:49 AM Sad, though seemed inevitable from recent reports. Herself will be very upset, he was always her favourite Beatle. RtS (who has been known to murder Yesterday when in his cups) |
Subject: The Art of Dying - George Harrison From: GUEST Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:49 AM The Art of Dying (George Harrison) There'll come a time when all of us must leave here Then nothing sister Mary can do Will keep me here with you As nothing in this life that I've been trying Could equal or surpass the art of dying Do you believe me? There'll come a time when all your hopes are fading When things that seemed so very plain Become an awful pain Searching for the truth among the lying And answered when you've learned the art of dying But you're still with me But if you want it Then you must find it But when you have it There'll be no need for it There'll come a time when most of us return here Brought back by our desire to be A perfect entity Living through a million years of crying Until you've realized the Art of Dying Do you believe me? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: okthen Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:58 AM Thanks for posting this WYSI, George helped make a lot of films with "Handmade" films, Life of brian etc. that wouldn't have been made otherwise. Lots of celebs saying nice things about George on UK television right now.A nice, quiet, family man. This news has made a grey day a little greyer. I think your audition went quite well love and light bill |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Clinton Hammond Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:15 AM This was his third kick at the cancer can, no? Well, like James Keelaghan sings... Who dies? Everyone dies! See you after, George! |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: gnu Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:24 AM Thanks George. Rest well. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: SeanM Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:30 AM "Golden slumbers fill your eyes Smiles await you when you rise..." I missed the original rush, but fell in love with the Beatles throughout childhood. I'd say George was part of the reason I wanted to get into music. Always seemed that no matter what was going on, he kept looking for the transcendental parts of performing. Fair winds, to a departed spirit I have great respect for. M |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Chip2447 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:32 AM So long George... Chip2447
Subject: George Harrison From: Chip2447 Date: 30-Nov-01 - 04:30 AM By JEFF WILSON .c The Associated Press LOS ANGELES (Nov. 30) - George Harrison, the Beatles' quiet lead guitarist and spiritual explorer who added both rock 'n' roll flash and a touch of the mystic to the band's timeless magic, has died. He was 58.
Harrison died at 1:30 p.m. (4:30PM EST) Thursday at a friend's Los Angeles home following a battle with cancer, longtime friend Gavin De Becker told The Associated Press late Thursday. Harrison's wife, Olivia Harrison, and son Dhani, 24, were with him.
So Long George.... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Tweed Date: 30 Nov 01 - 05:22 AM O, this makes me sad. It's not 5:30 in the AM yet and I wasn't ready for this one. Rest in Peace George. Thanks for makin' the world a nicer place to be in. Hope the wife don't wake up and see me over here blubberin' like a baby. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 06:07 AM Can't think of the words to say......very sad.... Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Noreen Date: 30 Nov 01 - 06:15 AM *sigh* sad news- lovely man. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Gervase Date: 30 Nov 01 - 06:59 AM There's some coverage here with tributes from Macca, Geldof and others. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,D_hand Date: 30 Nov 01 - 07:46 AM Sleep pretty baby do not cry and I will sing a lulaby |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Hollowfox Date: 30 Nov 01 - 07:48 AM What Gnu said. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Fiolar Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:01 AM Although never a great fan of the Beatles, I think it is fair comment to say that their musical influence on the 20th century was phenomenal. I had great respect for George and feel sadness at the loss to a world that needs all the good news it can get nowadays. To paraphrase the words of Cardinal Newman "his work is done! Then in His mercy may He give him a safe lodging, and a holy rest, and peace at last." Sleep well. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: sophocleese Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:06 AM Damn! I hate waking up to news like this. Rest peacefully George. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Paul Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:32 AM Written for John, but I think more than appropriate today:
Here Today And if I said
Well, knowing you But as for me What about the time we met?
What about the night we cried?
And if I say I really loved you
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Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,dave Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:59 AM still my guitar gently weeps |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: LR Mole Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:00 AM An old Gretsch, soaring toward the sun... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: katlaughing Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:07 AM Can't type much for the tears. Just so damn sad. Thanks George, see ya next time around, I hope. kat |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: UB Ed Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:22 AM WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS WELL I LOOK AT YOU ALL SEE THE LOVE THERE THAT'S SLEEPING WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS I LOOK AT THE FLOOR AND I SEE IT NEEDS SWEEPING STILL MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS I DON'T KNOW WHY NOBODY TOLD YOU HOW TO UNFOLD YOUR LOVE I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEONE CONTROLLED YOU THEY BOUGHT AND SOLD YOU I LOOK AT THE WORLD AND I NOTICE IT'S TURNING WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS FOR EVERY MISTAKE WE MUST SURELY BE LEARNING YEAH BUT STILL MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU I LOOK AT YOU ALL SEE THE LOVE THERE THAT'S SLEEPING WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS LOOK AT YOU ALL YES BUT STILL MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Jack the Sailor Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:36 AM So long, George |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Peter T. Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:47 AM Crap. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Ed Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:57 AM George Harrison was the main reason that I ever picked up a guitar. Thank's George Ed |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,another cancer victim Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:59 AM I say the following with all due respect to George Harrison. He was a great musician and a great philanthropist. I say the following in the hopes that we take a lesson from his death, and with the knowledge that George himself has, in recent years made similar statements after learning that his cancer was caused by his smoking. SMOKING IS STUPID! SMOKING WILL KILL YOU! Smoking killed George Harrison at the age of 58. I am 51 and have lung cancer from smoking. I will probably be dead long before I get to 58. If you smoke, PLEASE STOP NOW! I am posting this anonymously because I don't want any sympathy for my condition. I dug my own grave by smoking for more than 30 years. I started smoking in 1967, after smoking=cancer=death was firmly established. I WAS INCREDIBLY STUPID and now I am dying. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Big Mick Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:03 AM Yeah, Peter, I think you hit it best, as usual. No phoney sentimentality, just "Oh Shit, I hate for this to happen". Harrison, from all reports, just didn't go for the maudlin when it came to dying. He believed absolutely in reincarnation and actually spoke a number of times about it being just another waypoint on the journey. I wish him well as he continues his trek. The Beatles were such a major cataclysm in the world of music in general, and on my generation in particular. I think I was in the seventh grade when they came out. I remember a group of us buying "Beatle wigs" (dress codes in those days precluded long hair) and getting on stage in the basement gym at Kelloggsville Junior High School in 1964/65 and lyp synching to their records. We had a ball. Probably had a lot to do with my developing my desire to perform. Guess what role I played? Yep, George Harrison. I loved them all, but George was always my favorite. I just wanted to play like him. Never got there. Thanks George, and the others Beatles as well, for the role you have played in my life. Mick |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Jenny the T Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:03 AM First thing I heard on awakening was my clock radio telling me the news. How awful! Poor George. At least he's beyond suffering now. JtT |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Whistle Stop Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:22 AM With all the focus on his fame, his religious beliefs, and his role as the "quiet Beatle" in the shadow of Lennon and McCartney, a lot of people overlook what an exceptional guitar player George Harrison was. In an era when so many guitar players were trying to out-do one another with hyped up blues-based soloing, George approached the guitar with true musicality and taste. He could rock with the best of them, as evidenced by some great high-energy playing on some of the Beatles' early rock'n'roll singles and live performance tapes, but he was at his best when he applied the full force of his musical abilities and taste to fashion extremely well-crafted and well-integrated lead guitar parts. The music always came first; in a way, even before George overtly went to work on his ego, he submerged it in support of the music. The Beatles were a lot of things -- outstanding songwriters, personalities, icons -- but they were also a great sounding band, due in large part to George's lead guitar. I was five years old when the Beatles first played the Sullivan show, and I was hooked even at that young age, and have been ever since. George Harrison is one of the main reasons I learned to play guitar, and for that I will always remember him fondly. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Steve Parkes Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:33 AM Ah, dear ... so long, George. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: mousethief Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:40 AM I've got my mind set on you, George. May your memory be eternal. Alex |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Rick Fielding Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:44 AM Yeahhhh George! He became a very creative musician, and even some of those early solos (Hamburg and the Cavern) with their Scotty Moore influence had his own stamp on them. Sounds like he had great friends, and I can imagine there were thousands of wonderful 'living room' jams. Even a chunk of 'intrigue' now and then to keep a person from getting too complacent. Can't ask for much more. I'll bet he was chuffed (Geez I'm picking up heather's expressions) when Ol' Frank Sinatra said that "Something" was "one of the best damn songs ever written"! 'Course Frank thought it was a "Lennon McCartney song".....but WE knew. Take a break George, ya done good! Rick |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: SINSULL Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:47 AM So sad to lose him. I was never a Beatles fan but adored George. Somehow I have a clear picture of him singing "Norwegian Wood"..."Help!", maybe? That's how I will keep him - young and healthy and boyishly sexy. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: mousethief Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:50 AM John sang both Help and Norwegian Wood, if I'm not mistaken. Alex |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:54 AM you are of course right, mousethief. we must however make 'allowances' for mary (sinsull) she was never the brightest button in the box... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Wesley S Date: 30 Nov 01 - 11:02 AM I'd like to echo what Whistlestop said about George's guitar playing. He and Ringo {a very underated player also} always seemed to avoid flash for flashs sake and instead chose to do what was best to serve the song. I wish a lot more musicians did that. He'll be missed. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: SINSULL Date: 30 Nov 01 - 11:06 AM Sorry - I see George doing it. And there he will stay. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Rex Date: 30 Nov 01 - 11:36 AM "Please don't you be very long, Or I may be asleep..." Yep, he was my favorite too. He embraced the music from India. Along with it's philosophy. He recognized that which existed beyond what is visible. I am grateful for his being here for a time. I may have to dust off the sitar today. Rex |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Lonesome EJ Date: 30 Nov 01 - 12:29 PM Remembering George with a smile...
On the arrival of the Beatles in America 1964, they were greeted at the airport by a horde of reporters. American Reporter - So, what do you call that hair?
At the Beatles first recording session with George Martin.. Life flows on within you and without you... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,bluebird Date: 30 Nov 01 - 12:40 PM Cancer is War and War is Cancer and taking that into consideration George with the Beatles brought peace and light into this world. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Jim Krause Date: 30 Nov 01 - 01:11 PM And my guitar gently weeps. When I was a kid, I was the odd man out because George was always my favorite Beatle. He played the guitar. Although my playing has gone down a different path, still George insprired me. I hope he and John are having a good jam wherever they are. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: 53 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 01:32 PM george and john were 2 of the main driving forces in my music career, and now they are both gone, i have always loved the beatles music, and always will, i'm just glad i had a chance to be molded by 2 great musicians, they are and will be sadly missed, rest in peace george and hope that you and john can get together for a concert sometime. goodbye. BOB |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Amos Date: 30 Nov 01 - 01:34 PM Dang, dang, dang. An era fades off stage right. Good he's free, after all, but wow! What a trip that was! A |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Nov 01 - 01:43 PM "When I'm Sixty-Four" is doubly poignant now George as well as John has gone without reaching it.
As John wrote, "Curse Sir Water Raleigh, he was such a stupid git" - meaning the tobacco, not the spuds,
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Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,c.p. Date: 30 Nov 01 - 02:00 PM a wonderful man now free from pain and now with a god he loved so much, god bless and care for you george. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: mousethief Date: 30 Nov 01 - 02:25 PM May his memory be eternal. Alex |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Lonesome EJ Date: 30 Nov 01 - 02:54 PM I once had a book of paintings and photos of the Beatles called The Illustrated Beatles, and one of my favorites was the illustration for When I'm Sixty Four, which showed the boys at that advanced age, still colorfully-attired and grinning, but balding, chubby, wizened. Sad to think that only two of them will have the chance to reach that milestone. I feel about George's passing the same way I felt about John's. It's as if an old friend had died. I guess its because they were such public figures, so forthright, and because we grew up with them, going through many of the same pleasures, pain, and challenges. So here's a toast to George and John wherever they may have gone, and one to Paul and Ringo, may they live long and happy lives. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: katlaughing Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:13 PM Me, too, LeeJ, well said. Made me dig out my "Beatles at the BEEB" book, today. Then I realised, my girlfriend and I who always call one another on the anniversary of John's death (we worked at the smae place when he was killed and spent the day mourning in our cups), will have to add George...it is so close to the time we all lost John. Life's a long and winding road either side of the veil... |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:20 PM Just reading here and thinking about it............ Only a complete moron would negate the influence had on music and culture by the Beatles. Even if you hate the music, even if you say if not them, then somebody else, even if you and I may disagree as to the extent of their influence.........anyone with any rational vision of history, music, and culture cannot deny they were important. That said, and extending a bit on what Leej and others have said above.......... The impact of the death of George Harrison hits hardest with those who lived the times. If you were born much before 1945, your feelings may not be as intense because you were moving into the more practical world of adulthood when the Beatles hit. The more impressionable times of your life had already come and though some were still attracted to them, the over 20 set was a small portion of the audience. And if you were born much after 1955, it's doubtful that you identified as strongly either. But for those within those limits, those who were 14 or 15 when the Beatles came to the States for the first time........That group is probably affected the most because as mentioned, we were living with them and through them. There is nothing unusual about that, but as I read these posts I realized how significant they were to me and to others.....and no amount of explaining will make anyone else understand how these 4 kids from Liverpool became so embedded in our lives. I just see a quantum difference in postings from those who appreciate all he and they were and those who lived it. That doesn't mean anything really.......It's only natural..........Should in no way be offensive.......just something I noticed. Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: gnu Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:31 PM I guess it's the civil engineer in me that reminds me of this. When the Beatles performed on Ed Sullivan and the show went to commercial after that performance, many American city sewer systems backed up. That's an impact in itself. Again, rest well George. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Mr Red Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:36 PM RIP |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Katy Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:40 PM Spaw, I was born in 1967 and only really discovered the Beatles after John's death. I was 13 at the time. I fell in love with them, and whilst your experience of them, having 'been there' in doubtless different from mine, please don't assume that it's better or more important. Thank you Katy |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:54 PM Yeah......I knew it. Sorry Katy, but that wasn't what I meant at all and once again I should have kept my mouth shut. Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: katlaughing Date: 30 Nov 01 - 03:58 PM Feck that, Spaw. You were clear and what you posted was exactly the way some of us feel. Everyone just has to put their oar in the water at some point. I did hear that many fans gthering in NYC and elsewhere to mourn and celebrate his life, hadn't even been born when the Beatles came into the world, heck my son was born the year they broke up. Has John really been gone 21 years?:-( |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Peter T. Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:18 PM To add to C.P.'s remarks, one of the best things about being in that privileged generation was that we had an example -- in the Beatles -- of people being creative and changing and transforming themselves in extraordinary ways in public, and pushing their creative transformation through the wider society. We had that ongoing story, and I think it has affected most of that group since -- positively as role models, but also that constant dissatisfaction with what happened after, and the disappointment that everything didn't go on and keep transforming and changing at the same peak level (as if it could). I don't believe that any of us living through the sixties as teenagers thought, oh, this is great, people will be listening to this in 40 years; what we thought was, wow, this is a great start, what is going to happen next? How will we be changed? If anyone had told me that radio stations would be playing 60's records nonstop in 2001, and people would be looking back on the 60's as some great peak, I would have been disgusted and horrified.
I don't believe that this perspective is a normal aspect of any generation growing old: I have never sensed this in the ways of the older generations I had the privilege of growing up with: they had other stories and ways of being, other optimisms and pessimisms, other nostalgias, better in some ways, different certainly. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Hippie Chick Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:20 PM It's a good thing I didn't have my radio-alarm on this morning. That's how I found out about John. Rest In Peace, George. You were one of the greats. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: gnu Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:30 PM One effect that I have always pondered (and admired) is this. They were accepted by the establishment. The only thing "radical" upon their arrival was the hair. The tunes were good and non-offensive to most. After they were established, things began to change. Not just the music. Here was John and Yoko getting live press coverage from a bed !!! Someone with widespread popularity and political respect from nowhere said something so radical as, "Give peace a chance." And more than a generation listened and agreed. Of course, humans are a bit more complicated than that but it still did make a mark. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:35 PM Anyone else ever notice that 'Sorcha' (at least from her photos) looks just like Yoko? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Lonesome EJ Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:46 PM Yes, the Beatles had a legacy of tremendous press from the beginning when they were harmless mop-tops. Later, they made clever use of it to publicize their views on taboo subjects like drugs, pacifism, feminism and sexual freedom. The press still lapped it up. That was one of the things you had to love about the sixties: if one of the Beatles had said Nixon was a paranoid pedo-phile, it would have been front page news in most papers, and it would have been gospel truth in Rolling Stone and The Village Voice. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: voyager Date: 30 Nov 01 - 04:46 PM A Reading from the Internet Anagram Server - George Harrison --> He's rare, go Ringo! voyager |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:29 PM A&E Channel, if you get it, is currently running his Biography. Airs again at Midnight EST. Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Pene Azul Date: 30 Nov 01 - 08:47 PM “I'm so glad you came here, It won't be the same now I'm telling you.”
From two other threads (now deleted): Subject: Goodbye George From: Dita Date: 30-Nov-01 - 08:20 PM
In the absence of any 'offical' site to say goodbye I'd just like to say goodbye to George Harrison. Ever since I was a young lad he was always my favourite Beatle. He alyways seemed like a very genuine guy and his musical talent was always very under-rated. I'll miss you George. Love, John. X |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:02 PM The A&E piece wasn't bad. Typically A&E....good job for an hour time frame. Worth watching if you haven't seen Leon Russell lately.......Leon ain't missed too many meals... Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Owlkat Date: 30 Nov 01 - 09:26 PM I remember thinking that he was the coolest Beatle when I was a kid and listening to my sister's records. I bought his records after they split up. He was the only one who I thought had the most meaningful songs. When time is up, it's up, but it's still not fair. Owl. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Little Hawk Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:05 PM George Harrison was always my favourite Beatle, all things considered. Now he has completed this life's journey, and I wish him eternal love. I am sure he will find it. I believe in reincarnation too, and I hope to see him again one of these days. Bon Voyage, George! - LH |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Rick Fielding Date: 30 Nov 01 - 10:57 PM Yeah Spaw, I was thinking the same about Leon. For one brief shining moment I thought I might actually get to MEET him. He collected National steel Ukeleles. I had one. Sent the details to "his people". Pictured him inviting me to his Chateau, taking the uke, handing me two grand, and then saying "You moost join us for dinner, and afterwards Eric and Bobby are coomin' over for a session, if you'd like to do soom pickin'". A year later I got a note from "his people", saying "sorry, he's not interested". Oh well...... Rick |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Rolfyboy6 Date: 30 Nov 01 - 11:15 PM Although I'm a blues and bluegrass type, I listen with great interest to George. One of the best at fills and backing riffs. Eight note solos in the turnarounds, way better than so much of the wretched excess that passes for guitar playing. Sad to hear of his passing. I'd be honored to throw a branch on his funeral pyre. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Lonesome EJ Date: 30 Nov 01 - 11:42 PM The Rainbow (for George)
I remember long ago
Its common now to put your faith
Satisfaction must come quick
If something Holy underlies
The Color Bridge it spans the sky Ernie Johnson 2001 |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: katlaughing Date: 01 Dec 01 - 12:08 AM Wow, LeeJ! More tears at the eloquence and beauty of your words. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Coyote Breath Date: 01 Dec 01 - 12:53 AM Ah well... He was a fine person and an astute musician and I loved his songs and I wish he could have missed the cancer thing, entirely. I wonder if he's caught up with John? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Mister Ed Date: 01 Dec 01 - 01:19 AM I can see them now...a bright light illuminating two smiling faces as they reach to embrace in friendship & love after all those years...John & George back together again. So long, thanks for showing us the Inner Light. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Alice Date: 01 Dec 01 - 02:24 AM This is too sad for words. .....gently weeping |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Kaleea Date: 01 Dec 01 - 04:05 AM I was about 9, and the headlines said the Beatles were coming to the nearby Red Rocks outdoor amphitheater. Of course my parents said we could absolutely NOT go. Nonetheless, I sat on the living room floor in front of the hi-fi listening to my big brothers' Beatles records. I loved the early songs, especially the acoustic ones. The simple, lovely melodies and earnest love songs of youth. When they went to India, and a couple of the lads noticed a then popular blonde girl singer frequenting the bedchamber of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the lads started leaving India. While they found out that the big guru had feet of clay, George realised Truth in the teachings of the guru, and sought out & found those who could teach him Kriya Yoga. On Thursday evening of this week, I went online, and did a search for news of George. For some reason, I expected something new to be reported, but surprisingly found nothing. Fri AM I found out that George had made his final Samhadi. We can learn from George, even now. We can choose to not allow tobacco manufacturers to take our money & kill us. We can pick up our guitars and share songs of love & peace. We can choose to respect the religious/philosophical beliefs of others and NOT condemn our fellow humans- brothers & sisters- who may not be fundamentalist Christians. We can remember to live each day with the knowledge that there are many others across the globe who also believe in love & peace, and treat all whom we meet as our beloved brothers & sisters. If only a handful of us would do some of these things every day, just imagine . . .ah, but that's another Beatle. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: JohnL Date: 01 Dec 01 - 10:00 AM A very sad day for his family, fans and music. I live in Henley, where George lived and in the 70's I had an attic flat on a road bordering his mansion. Quite often we would hear him playing guitar at 1 or 2 am in the morning, the sound coming over the tree tops - how's that for a lullaby? |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Dave the Gnome Date: 01 Dec 01 - 10:19 AM Goodbye George. All things must pass was, in my mind, your finest work. It was also prophetic of course, but perhaps the music will ensure that your music and memory will fade far later than you imagined. Cheers Dave the Gnome |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger (Ireland) Date: 01 Dec 01 - 12:27 PM I saw the Beatles play live in May 1963. From then they supplied the soundtrack to my life. Thanks for the memories and thanks for the music. Rest in Peace George, TBR |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Rex Date: 01 Dec 01 - 01:37 PM So I took out the sitar, I really should play it more often. I played nothing on it but "Harrisongs" for three hours or so. It's funny how adaptable that instrument can be. Then I played his records into the evening. One cannot help but touch upon his wisdom and feel peace. Today I'll play some more of those songs on the guitar. Rex |
Subject: memo: to Dave the Gnome From: GUEST,Harry Krishna, esq. Date: 01 Dec 01 - 01:47 PM Dear Mr. Gnome, I have been asked to advise you that, due to his bodily departure from the earthly plane, Mr. Harrison will not be reading personal messages directed to him on the Mudcat Cafe forum. Sincerely, Harry Krishna, esq. Krishna & Rama |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Dec 01 - 04:16 PM Reading is not necessary in Spirit. Thought travels faster than light. - LH |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Dave the Gnome Date: 01 Dec 01 - 04:21 PM It's OK, Harry. He read it in an earlier life.;-) DtG |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Dec 01 - 06:19 PM The papers in England today were totally dominated by this. Broadsheets just as much as the tabloids, page after page.
Here is a net links page from the Guardian Website which gets you stuff you might have missed - like pictures from his garden.
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Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 01 Dec 01 - 06:51 PM Leej....simply beautiful. Hard to believe you're a Briarhopper. Has anyone seen or heard anything of Ringo since George's death? McCartney tlaked some on TV as well as mant others, but Ringo is notable by his absence. Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: Stewie Date: 01 Dec 01 - 07:34 PM Sad to read that a legend in another musical field also died that day - Homer 'Pappy' Sherrill. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 01 Dec 01 - 07:48 PM The Hickory String Band and a whole bunch of others.......I hadn't heard Stewie. Thanks for passing it along. Sorry to hear........ Spaw |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST,Paul Date: 01 Dec 01 - 08:24 PM Spaw, Ringo had this to say: "George was a best friend of mine. "I loved him very much and I will miss him greatly. Both Barbara and I send our love and light to Olivia and Dhani. "We will miss George for his sense of love, his sense of music and his sense of laughter." Taken from the BBC News site Paul |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: catspaw49 Date: 01 Dec 01 - 08:38 PM Thanks Paul, and thanks for the link. Spaw |
Subject: The Rainbow (a song for George Harrison) From: Genie Date: 18 Jun 06 - 11:04 PM Thanks, Lonesome, for posting that Rainbow song. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison From: GUEST Date: 18 Jun 06 - 11:42 PM Coincidences are God's puns. |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: GUEST,van lingle Date: 19 Jun 06 - 11:27 AM Anyone seen Concert for George which was done 1 year after his death. It features Clapton, Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, McCartney, Gary Booker, Albert Lee and a bunch of others including lots of his backup players like Jim Keltner, Klaus Voorman et al who deliver his songs faithfully and lovingly. The real stars though are the songs. When you line them up it's amazing how many great ones he wrote. It orginally aired on PBS in the US and is now on DVD.vl |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: GUEST,Liam Date: 19 Jun 06 - 12:37 PM Yes, It is ace. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: Wesley S Date: 19 Jun 06 - 01:23 PM I've seen most of it. Really worthwhile. It's a shame he was overshadowed by the other two guys from his old band. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: GUEST,van lingle Date: 19 Jun 06 - 01:50 PM Could've done without Ringo singing one of his hits but glad they incluced the Carl Perkins tune for the rockabilly guitar. I'm not a big McCartney fan but thought he did fine on All Things Must Pass and Something. Best part for me though was the segment with Joe Brown. I haven't heard Here Comes the Sun done that well since George with the Beatles.vl |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: Genie Date: 19 Jun 06 - 05:11 PM I loved the guy (which one was that?) who played uke and sang "I'll See You In My Dreams" to end the show. And George's son Dhani ("Uncle Ringo" pronounces it just like "Danny" so I'll assume that's correct) is the spit and image of his dad! I have this on videotape but I'd love to have the DVD. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: fat B****rd Date: 20 Jun 06 - 05:38 AM I got the DVD of the show for Xmas and would highly recommend it. The Shankar piece is long but fascinating if you're into it. PS If you're not, of course, you can skip it. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: GUEST,van lingle Date: 20 Jun 06 - 04:35 PM That was Joe Brown doing "I'll See you in my Dreams", Genie. He also did another George tune that I really liked that was unfamiliar to me.vl |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 20 Jun 06 - 06:56 PM We just added these 2 DVDs to the top of our Netflix queue. Sounds great! Art |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: Genie Date: 21 Jun 06 - 01:06 AM Thanks for IDing Joe Brown, van lingle. I'm always impressed when someone can make a ukulele sound that good. FatB****rd, I loved the Shankar number. Ravi's daughter is gorgeous, in addition to being excellent on the sitar. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: Paco Rabanne Date: 21 Jun 06 - 03:27 AM 99 is the new 100. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Beatles' George Harrison (29 Nov 2001) From: Raggytash Date: 21 Jun 06 - 04:42 AM Sod it ! 100 ........... Hi Ted |
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