BS: In every thread someone has to be last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 07:08 AM

hmmmmm
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 08:29 AM

Aha. Well, this certainly reminds me of various recent states of mind, BB. You've got it bad, man. :-) Now try imagining being without her and still being happy anyway...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 04:53 PM

LH,

If I am imagining, why shouldn't I imagine being WITH her, and still being happy?


I try to let my verse reflect my thoughts and emotions on what is actually happening to me, or at least what is happening in my heart's desires.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 06:53 PM

I'm just saying try it. See what that's like. Then you are totally free to go back to imaging being with her. It's really cool if you can be happy both ways...and then opt to be with her as a matter of choice.

That's what I am trying these days.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 07:02 PM

But which is a better reflection of the state I am in?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 11:13 PM

sonnet 237 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/04/05                         CMXCVI

I want to hold my muse within these arms,
And wake to bright, sweet morning. Should I reach
For heart's desire? I wait, for her to teach
What she might wish: Should I fear that hope harms
The chance for love? Or, are my fears alarms,
To warn from seeking to her love beseech?
Would gaining dream the passion from dreams leech,
That I would lose all in winning her charms?
She is true muse: I cannot dream recall
Without thinking of eyes that capture heart.
Should I not hope to her true desires touch?
Might heart find cause that dreams of her are all
That night allows, that thoughts of her will start
Feelings on whirlwind, and hopes are too much?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 12:33 AM

sonnet 238 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/05/05                         CMXCVII

Can vision of muse fill my arms, or dreams
Of those lips give me taste of her soft skin?
I think not: But, thinking of her now seems
Enough to let heart know what hope would win.
Can desire find the words to feelings tell
From such a distance? Am I fool to feel
She is my heart's desire? What is the spell
That dreams of muse are far more than just real?
Can concern for her ever not be right,
That I should try to care less for her smile?
How could I make dream not seek for the light
I find in eyes? Are my hopes now on trial?
Is there reason that I should doubt desire?
Would less than love all of these dreams inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM

different strokes for different folks.
some manage to dodge the bullets and some welcome them

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 08:18 PM

sonnet 239 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/05/05                         CMXCVIII

Shall I send mirror to my muse, to show
Her image of my heart's desire? She gives
Dreams hope: What might I find to let her know
How much I prize the soul that in her lives?
She is more than a dream, but still fills night
With thoughts and feelings: Should I try to reach,
To fold muse into heart? Have I won right
To offer more than words, to longings teach?
I fear she knows my heart yet does not chose
To push away, nor pull me near: Which way
Will I chase dreams? I could not bear to lose
The chance I might her sweet smile earn someday.
Should I ask muse to my future decide,
Or let life be, and in my dreams abide?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:25 AM

sonnet 240 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 12/05/05                         CMXCIX

What magic does my muse possess, to hold
To heart and soul? The thought of her has power
To all of dreams control: Hopes know how cold
Her absence leaves even the warmest hour.
Can longing find a path, to lead my dreams
To muse and summer dawn? Should heart desire
Only this one sweet perfect flower? Heart seems
To have no choice: She all of dreams inspire.
Will time alter desire, to give hopes pause
While I remain alive? I cannot say
All will remain the same, but muse is cause
Of caring I cannot from heart let stray.
She fills my dreams, and heart, and soul: How might
I find the words to keep her in my sight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:00 AM

There was a young man called El Ted
And while he was laid in his bed

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:01 AM

His fingers did flicker,
But someone was quicker

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:02 AM

And got posted the hundred instead

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 09:18 AM

ah, the things that amuse some people!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 09:59 AM

Ha! I can hardly wait for William Shatner to nail the 1000th post on the "I Quit" thread...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 10:45 AM

Ah dear 42 [Good year that!] I myself have uttered those very words to no avail and eventually I sccumbed to temptation and joined the merry band. It's a case of 'If you can't beat them [nice thought]join them'
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: *Laura*
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:17 PM

beep.
beep.
beep.
beep.
peeb.
beep.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:27 PM

"Vairy eenteristink" as they used to say on the 'Laugh In'
G..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:51 PM

He who posts last, posts loudest.

So, can I stay now? I mean, that was pretty good, right? Shite, I didn't read the thread... maybe someone already posted this? Oh well, if so, I'm just repeating it because I appreciated it so.

So, what isn't THIS thread about?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: *Laura*
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:32 PM

yes.
i don't have a plan for this post.
It's just this at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 05:06 PM

Sooo, I should fit right in... cause I never know what I might say next.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 06:55 PM

sounds like you fit in to me...


Any contributions are welcome- but some of us would prefer not to have orders to shut up, or just about any political discussions here- there are plenty of other threads available for that. That said, we really will talk about any topic someone wants to bring up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 07:05 PM

Pabst. You can flippin' well have it. I drink Export, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 07:06 PM

eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 01:19 AM

sonnet 241 of 253 to my muse


Sonnet 13/05/05                         M

Should I deny I want muse in my arms,
That dream might be? I know I ask for more
Than reason would allow, but hoping harms
No one save me: How can I hopes ignore?
I cannot hide desire: I long to feel
Her lips on mine. Yet, should I try to be
More than just friend? Would action only sea
My fate, to lose hope, yet not let heart free?
I bide my time: Perhaps she will decide
What she would have me do. I'd rather wait
Than risk her smile. I cannot my hopes hide,
But have no wish to rush to know my fate.
She knows that she is precious, and my muse:
I cannot her desire ever refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 03:42 AM

Just as things were getting interesting !
G ¦¬]>

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 03:55 AM

Giok,

Feel free to ignore my post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 11:11 AM

ok.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 12:00 AM

sonnet 242 of 253 to my muse



Sonnet 18/05/05                               MI

Should I not dream of you, nor want to give
Reasons to smile? You are beautiful, bright,
And sweet: How can I hope that hopes not live
To bring a shadow of you to my night?
Should I not think about your smile, nor eyes
That reach my soul? You are my heart's desire:
Is to ignore all of my feelings wise,
That I should seek from passions to retire?
Should I not want to all of you caress,
When you are all that dreams and heart search for?
Yet, is there reason I should love you less
In absence, when thought of you hopes restore?
Might I just dream of you, and want you near,
Or will I always risk of upset fear?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 09:05 AM

Four surreal eye Kuwait.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 03:41 PM

"Life is a struggle and a pleasure, a worry and a treasure."



from khandu, on another thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 10:20 PM

sonnet 243 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/05/05                            MII

If I let hopes guide more than dream, what price
Would my heart have to pay? Would you be kind,
And give me chance, that I might try to bind
My needs to your desires? Eyes soul entice
To hold, but should my heart now seek advice
Of what reason allows? I am not blind
To all that stands between the hopes I find
Within, and what must for present suffice.
If I let heart run free, to dreams pursue,
Would I still earn your smile? Can caring win
Your happiness, when heart wants all of you?
Know I'll not feelings hide: My hopes are true,
But do not control all. Would it be sin,
To ask you to some of my dreams renew?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 12:09 AM

hearts are like library books...just when you really know them; you have to give them back.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 09:38 PM

sonnet 244 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/05/05                            MIII

Dare dream of you future allow, when we
Might gaze at stars? Should I desire a time
That I might watch you sleep? Can dreaming be
Enough, when I know love is not a crime?
Might heart know how much of itself to send,
That you not think me fool? I cannot tell
How to now less than love you: You are friend,
Muse and desire; Are you true love as well?
Will I find reason to reason ignore,
And seek you out, to stare into your eyes?
I fear you might not these sweet dreams restore,
Should I, unwanted, seek to offer ties.
Yet, does it matter if I dream, or not?
Can dream be real, or love ever my lot?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 07:51 PM

sonnet 245 of 253 to my muse...



Sonnet 22/05/05                           MIV

Have I the chance to more than my words share,
Or will I hold only as muse? You guide
The path I take: Did I not think you care,
I would not risk dreams, but these feelings hide.
Yet, I want honest feelings; That you give
Only what you desire. I could remain
At distance, if you your own desires live.
How can I now your happiness attain?
I care enough to rather that you choose
What would fulfil your heart's desires: I know
You deserve far more than just being muse.
Yet, I will still my longing for you show.
You need but ask, and I will leave or stay:
And for your smile I would all of dreams pay.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 05 - 10:27 AM

sonnet 246 of 253 to my muse...




Sonnet 23/05/05                            MV

Sweet rose, I dream about your smile and eyes
That are more precious than my life. I wait,
To find what you think of the verse that tries
To show my heart: I still seek for my fate.
How can I alter past, to change the way
We each look at the world? You know I seek
My heart's desire, but should I dare to say
I find in you what all of desires speak?
Should I my hopes ignore, and just enjoy
Thought of your smile? Dreams of you fill my night
But do dreams ever my dear muse annoy?
Might I hope vision will show more than sight?
Is there some path that dreams might find to tread
That pleases you, and does not leave hopes dead?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 05 - 03:06 PM

sonnet 247 of 253 to my muse...



Sonnet 24/05/05                         MVI

What part of mood is sadness that I feel,
Unspoken by muse? Does she send me tears
As well as dream? How much of gloom is real,
And how much reflection of muse's fears?
Yet, might I ease some of concern, to tell
Her plain that she is loved for her own sake?
She deserves all, and more: Her tears compel
That I try to some sweet distraction make.
What can I do to help her smile regain?
Is there a prayer that I might offer chance
For happiness and joy? Can love obtain
Even shadow of hope, without romance?
How can I tears avoid, when time has let
Joy slip from muse, and hopes for dream upset?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 05 - 03:47 PM

another six posts and I can claim victory and let this thread unravel...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 12:13 AM

Who WAS that masked woman???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 06:37 PM

sonnet 248 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 29/05/05                         MVIII

In what dream will I find your smile, to lend
Some comfort to my heart? I cannot hold
You in my arms, nor have I means to send
A token of my need to hopes enfold.
Thought of you calms my soul, but fills my dream
With hope and hot desire: Should I admit
The passions you inspire? Can verse redeem
That I can't fears defeat, with all my wit?
Can caring help find smile, or will you tire
Of all my words? Should I not seek to mold
Present, and future? Must heart ignore fire
That dream of you ignites? Are hopes too bold?
And yet, for all my fears and lack of chance,
I feel I love you still, and want romance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 05 - 03:04 PM

sonnet 249 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 09/06/05                         MIX

I do not know how to hold muse as mine,
Though I am hers: How can words find a way
To show concern? Can hope from distance say
Enough, or should dreams to dark fears resign?
I worry that my muse's moods align
Too well with mine: Does yearning heart relay
More than desires? How can I caring stay,
Yet offer sadness? Will heart's hopes decline?
Should I seek to know how to her smile earn,
When I fear I might yet give cause for tear?
I'd rather dreams die than risk hurting muse.
What can I do? To what path should I turn,
To protect muse's heart? Dare hope appear
Before I know which of her dreams she'll choose?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 04:55 PM

sonnet 250 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/06/05                            MXI

How can I send her some of the desire
I have for her sweet smile? How can I lift
Concern out from her dreams? Hopes do not tire,
But heart wants to no further from dreams drift.
How can I stay so far, wanting to hold
Her in my arms? Should I not try to reach
To her, to more than just my dreams enfold?
Is there reason I should not love beseech?
How can I seize the source of dreams, and show
The passions thought of her gives heart? I fear
She does not need my care: How can I know
How longings in my heart to her appear?
I want her happiness more than my own
Desires: Has verse truly hopes ever shown?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 07:18 PM

You are a man in the grip of romantic dementia.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 08:26 PM

and this is a bad thing?


What power is greater than love?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 08:59 PM

The greatest love is that which loves all...not that which loves one special chosen individual. The only real love is unconditional love, and romantic love is normally both highly exclusive and highly conditional.

If, however, you can actually manage unconditional love (which is for all beings, not just one), you can still have romance in your life, I hasten to add...just in case you think I would deny it to you. I wouldn't do that.

I am suggesting that if you were really in LOVE, you would be writing sonnets not just to her but to all of creation.

You may find that she cannot hold indefinitely up under the burden of having to carry the entirety of your love, a love that is meant for all of Life, not just her.

No power is greater than the love which loves all, without conditions, plans, dreams or expectations.

And I am not the first who has said these things by any means...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 10:46 PM

AH, but as my muse, I find in her the focus of my love: As one merely human, it seems to me that I should take what I can get.


I look forward to your unconditional love of GWB, Rove, Rush, and MG... You would be a far better man than I to be so gifted.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 07:59 AM

You assume that you are just "merely human", but you may be more than that... ;-) I suggest that you are more than that. Why settle for a nice cupcake when you can have the whole bakery?

I do unconditionally love GWB, Karl Rove, etc...BUT that does not mean that I love their outer personalities or their destructive policies or that I approve of their foolish decisions or that I would vote for Mr Bush, given the opportunity to do so. Loving people at the soul level does not necessitate putting up with their bad behaviour at the personality level. It does involve respecting them as living souls, however, and treating them decently, as one would oneself wish to be treated. If there's someone I don't love (because I deny their intrinsic worth at the deepest level), then I have a problem which I had better learn to deal with, and the problem is in me, not in them. Personalities can be very negative (due to fear), but the soul is pure.

"Love your neighbor as yourself." That is how to make peace in the World.

That's what I did with MG, and it worked. He ended up liking me, and we got along fine even though we disagreed on a lot of social and political issues. It worked a whole lot better than trading insults and threats with him, and trying to hurt him back...

If you think bad thoughts...bad things happen.
If you think good thoughts...good things happen.

And if you think nothing........nothing happens!!! ;-)

My best wishes to you and your muse...may you find happiness.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 09:14 AM

semantics, romantics, pedantics, sycophantics, sillyantics
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 10:15 AM

Ah, I was wondering when you'd drop in... ;-)

I'm glad to see you're up fairly early. It's good for your health.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 02:08 PM

sonnet 251 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 18/06/05                           MXII

Heart aches with longing for desired touch
Of muse upon my dreams. How can I feel
That I should not call to her? Are fears such,
To give reason to think hopes are not real
I want to hear her voice, but think I might
Learn of more tears I cannot kiss away.
Heart cannot stand not having chance to fight
What worries that might haunt my muse today.
Waiting upon unspoken words, I lose
Far more than truth might risk: I am not there
When she might need me. Could I hope she'll chose
One who by silence thinks to show his care?
And yet, what could I say to change my muse?
I fear I offer what she will refuse.