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Subject: Lyrics Translation- Italian
From: GUEST,GUEST-asd
Date: 11 May 06 - 07:00 PM

My aunt (who speaks italian) helped me loosely translate this:

The Haze

That which we choose not to know,
we can only see in the fog,
the haze of human nature.

---
A flower blooms, a leader dies-
the mists of time are parting

"You are not welcome here, my friend"

---

Chorus:

And yet all we can see is-
the fact that we are broken.
The limits of the soul can no longer be discerned.

---

The sun in the sky,
the grass upon the battle-scarred earth.
We see only ugliness,
Where we have destroyed the beauty.

--- Chorus

Bridge:

To Breathe... is habit.
To die... is tradition.
To be born... is only by chance.
To see... is instinct.
To kill... is all too easy.
To thrive...is overrated.

---
Mortality is... the ultimate cause of death,
for simply being born is the greatest garauntee
of dying.

---

Chorus

>>>>>>>>> to this:

"Le Foschie"

Quello che scegliamo non conoscere,
possiamo vedere soltanto nella nebbia
l' opacità della natura umana

---

Un fiore fiorisce, e una guida è morire:
le foschie di tempo stanno separando

"You are not welcome here, my friend"

---

Chorus:

Ma tutto che possiamo vedere è-
il fatto che siamo infranta.
I limiti dell'anima-
non può essere discernuto.

---

Il sole nel cielo,
Erba sulla terra segnato dalla battaglia.
Vediamo il brutto
Dove abbiamo distrutto la bellezza.

---

Chorus

---

Bridge:

Respirare... è l'abitudine.
Morire... è il tradizione.
Essere nato... è solo per caso.
Verdere... è instinto.
Uccidere... è tutto troppo semplice.
Prosperare... è attribuire troppa imortanza.

---

Mortalità è l'ultima causa della morte,
per essere nato è il più grande promettre
di in punto di morte.

Chorus

"The earth spins, and Death marches on the axis."



>>>>>>>> is this correct at all? my aunt is kinda rusty on her italian, so I wanted to make sure. Any help would be appreciated!


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Subject: RE: Lyrics Translation- Italian
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 12 May 06 - 12:12 AM

G'day Guest asd,

I've just emailed an Australian Mudcatter who is a native Italian speaker ... and a singer / chorist in Italian/English language songs. I hope she might have a look at this for you.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyrics Translation- Italian
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 May 06 - 12:57 AM

Guest, You are translating from English to Italian, right?

I think it's a very good translation overall but I see some things I believe need to be fixed. I'm not a native Italian speaker so there may be errors. Also, I apologize because the comments below are in such a disorganized, prosy format. My husband told me about this thread and I just couldn't resist taking a look, but it's a bit late and I need to stop now! (Editing always takes me longer than writing I'm afraid.)

BTW I started working on this before Bob Bolton posted his message so decided I would just finish it and post it. Bob, maybe you could send my comments on to your friend as well?

Guest, What is the source of the poem? Would you be willing to tell us why you are translating it into Italian? It's a fascinating poem and quite a challenge to get it across in another language.

- Rita Ferrara

* In the first stanza, " Quello che scegliamo non conoscere" means Choose to know in the sense of, not to recognize, or admit to acquaintance with (as, for example, a person). "scegliamo non sapere" means "choose not to know [know about something, know a fact]." Your choice.

Suggestion:   Quello che scegliamo non sapere,

* For "a leader dies," which you translated as "una guida e morire," consider two possible changes. First, "una guida" means the leader of, say, a tour or a girl scout troop, I don't think it means a political, philosophical or religious leader. "Capo, "Conduttore," or "maestro" might be better than guida. Second, the construction "una guida e morire" isn't any grammar I recognize. "e morto" means "has died." "Va morire" means "is going to die." Mori' means died -- I believe. So, consider translating it as:
        Suggestion: Uno capo e` morto

* "le foschie di tempo stanno separando"   To me "separando" refers to things like strands of spaghetti, discrete things that can separate from one another. Try "si stanno separando," which literally means they are separating themselves.
        Suggestion:   le foschie di tempo si stanno separando

* il fatto che siamo infranta: My big old (1930's?) Italian-English dictionary says "infrangere" means "to infringe," or "to break in pieces," or "to violate" and "infranto" means broken, infringed, violated, as a treaty or a contract. You can use "infrangersi," which would read like this: Or consider "si rompere," a more common word for breaking:         

        Suggestions: il fatto che ci siamo infranti, ("we have been broken.")" or Il fatto che ci siamo romputi

* " Vediamo il brutto" - means "we see the ugly." Bruttezza is ugliness, just as bellezza is beauty.
        Suggestion:   Vediamo la bruttezza

* " Verdere... è instinto." This is just a typo: "To see" is "Vedere"
        Suggestion: Vedere... è instinto.

* " Uccidere... è tutto troppo semplice," "is all to easy": tutto here gives the sense of "all of it [killing] is too easy." This is definitely the wrong idiom but I don't know exactly what to use. You could try "much too easy," but I don't think you can say "molto troppo semplice" either. You could try "affatto" which means all in the sense of "quite, entirely."
         Suggestion: Uccidere... è affatto troppo semplice.

* " Prosperare... è attribuire troppa imortanza" I think this construction is incorrect gramatically. consider using "Stimare troppo," "Esteem too much," which is a translation for to overrate.
        Suggestion:   Prosperare... è attributo troppa importanza"
         or better:   Prosperare ... e` stimato troppo

* " per essere nato è il più grande promettre
di in punto di morte." There are a couple of problems here. You need "perche," "because", not "Per," "for"; and also "Garantia" or "promessa" means "guarantee." "In punto di morire" describes someone who is dying right this minute, which not what you mean here.
        Suggestion:   
        perche' essere nato è il più grande garantia [promessa]
        di morire.

Okay, I'm going to post this before I manaqe to lose it, and then post the translation with my suggested changes so you can see what you think.

- Rita F


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Subject: RE: Lyrics Translation- Italian
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 May 06 - 01:02 AM

"Le Foschie"

Quello che scegliamo non sapere,
possiamo vedere soltanto nella nebbia
l' opacità della natura umana

---

Un fiore fiorisce, e uno capo e` morto:
le foschie di tempo si stanno separando

"You are not welcome here, my friend"

---

Chorus:

Ma tutto che possiamo vedere è-
il fatto che ci siamo infranti.
I limiti dell'anima-
non può essere discernuto.

---

Il sole nel cielo,
Erba sulla terra segnato dalla battaglia.
Vediamo la bruttezza
Dove abbiamo distrutto la bellezza.

---

Chorus

---

Bridge:

Respirare... è l'abitudine.
Morire... è il tradizione.
Essere nato... è solo per caso.
Vedere... è instinto.
Uccidere... è affatto troppo semplice.
Prosperare... è stimato troppo
---

Mortalità è l'ultima causa della morte,
perche' essere nato è il più grande garantia
di morire.

Chorus

"The earth spins, and Death marches on the axis."

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