Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Gray D Date: 05 Dec 03 - 08:33 PM Once again people, can I commend the work of the groups "La Ciapa Rusa" and "Ensemble del Doppio Bordone" to you. "Ensemble . . ." was "La Ciapa . . . " plus two when we saw them. They were on RobiDroli records and seem to have disappeared since. Anyone know what happened? Gray D |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST,manny Date: 05 Dec 03 - 03:42 PM Does anyone have any info regarding a guitarist i believe from naples called Mario Maglione where can i buy his cd's |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST Date: 04 Dec 03 - 03:32 PM sorry but the swedish version of santa lucia is completely wrong, that's not even swedish you know, looks like polish or something. sankta lucia skänk mig en tia..that's the swedish song |
Subject: Lyr Add: SHADDAPPA YOU FACE (Joe Dolce) From: Cluin Date: 28 Oct 03 - 01:14 AM SHADDAPPA YOU FACE (words & music: Joe Dolce) When I was a boy, just about-a eighth-a grade Mama used to say, "Don't-a stay out late With the bad-a boys, always shoot-a pool You gonna flunk-a school" Boy, it make-a me sick, all the things I gotta do Can't-a getta no kicks; always gotta follow rules Boy, it make-a me sick; just-a make a lousy bucks I gotta feel like a fool (and mama used to say:) What'sa matta you, hey? You gotta no respect? Whatta you think you do? Why you looka so sad? It's-a not so bad It's-a nice-a place Ah, shaddappa you face! Soon-a come-a day, gonna be-a big-a star Gonna make-a movies; buy a nice-a car But still-a be myself; I'm-a never change a thing Always dance an' sing ('cause I remember mama used to say:) What'sa matta you, hey? You gotta no respect? Whatta you think you do? Why you looka so sad? It's-a not so bad It's-a nice-a place Ah, shaddappa you face! (spoken) Hello, everybody, that's out there in radio and television land. Did you know I had a bit hit song in Italy with this: 'Shaddappa You Face'? I sing this song and all my fans applaud, they clap their hands. That make me feel so good. You ought to learn this song, It's really simple. I sing: 'Whatsa Matta You?" You sing: 'Hey!" You sing the rest and at the end, we can all sing 'Ah, shaddappa you Face!' Okay, let's try it, really big... Uno, Duo, Tre, Quatro: What'sa matta you, hey? You gotta no respect? Whatta you think you do? Why you looka so sad? It's-a not so bad It's-a nice-a place Ah, shaddappa you face! |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST,Matthew Kassab Date: 27 Oct 03 - 09:44 PM Does anyonw know the lyric for "Cella Luna" |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 21 Sep 03 - 10:38 PM RE http://www.stairway.org/kidsongs/ toady i got the message saying If you're looking for Lullabies and Other Songs for Children, the site has moved to: http://www.kididdles.com/ |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST,Mario Date: 21 Sep 03 - 04:49 PM Hi In 2002 I played mandolin and mandola on a North Italy folk music CD. The record is "Fabrizio Poggi - Turututela" (Felmay - www.felmay.it). It's a collection of songs, mostly traditional, from Lombardia (a north-italian region): work songs, love songs, there is a couple of murder songs. The sound is not so traditional (drums and keyboards were added), but the melodies and the lyrics are true. You can find more at http://www.turututela.com (there is a presentation in english) and the lyrics at http://www.turututela.com/testicd.txt |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Sep 03 - 03:25 PM http://crh.choate.edu/language/Italiano/canzoni_italiane.htm Canzoni |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Sep 03 - 03:18 PM canzoni italiane Like most of these sites, some is folk, some ain't. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Blowzabella Date: 21 Sep 03 - 02:57 PM There is a great group called La Moresca Antica, who have ventured over to the UK on a couple of occasions - early music/folk/classical (kind of an Italian version of The New Scorpion Band). They are well worth finding out about and buying their CD. I know they do quite a bit of maritime stuuf - things like Venetian pile-driving shanties etc - very interesting. And nice people too. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Roberto Date: 21 Sep 03 - 02:26 AM Many of the songs named in this thread are not folk songs. Opera arias, composed cabaret songs, stage songs come together with folk songs, but generally the kind of "folk songs" such as Thomas Moore's songs, The Fields of Athenry and Danny Boy in an Irish collection, Greensleeves in an English; Dumbarton Drums in a Scottish. I don't despise the songs I've named, but you know they are not the whole thing. If somebody is interested in Italian traditional songs, two sites of interest are Felmay (www.felmay.it), where you can find recordings by the best revival groups and a few collections of field recordings, and Musical Traditions (www.mustrad.org.uk), a wonderful site for the traditional music of the English speaking world, that has also some field recordings of traditional Italian music. Roberto |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Sep 03 - 11:34 AM Italian concert songs (and others) as sung by Jose Carreras: Concert Songs |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Sep 03 - 11:23 AM A good old thread. Bringing some of the links up to date- Trieste Songs Midis, some texts. |
Subject: Lyr Add: GARIBALDI From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 21 Mar 02 - 06:52 AM A song about the Italian hero of the Italian wars of unity and independence, in the 60es of 19. century: Garibaldi
Garibaldi fu ferito,
Garibaldi supremi monti,
Garibaldi was wounded in the knee, Garibaldi who commanded the battalion. This is a lively song I learned by listening when with the boy scouts. Since my Italian is very limited, there must be a lot of faulty orthography. Please correct it. Wilried |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Escamillo Date: 21 Mar 02 - 12:31 AM For those who may want to sing along with good MIDIs, I do have some songs in my collection: Funiculí-funiculá , O Sole Mío, Marechiare, Torna a Surriento, Luna Rossa, Santa Lucía. Also some popular songs like Caruso, Il Mare Calmo Della Sera, and Con Te Partiró . These are nicely orchestrated versions. Please leave a Personal Message to me and I'll send them, or give me some instructions to upload the MIDIs to the library. Un abrazo - Andrés (protesting against banks in Buenos Aires) |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: IanC Date: 20 Mar 02 - 06:49 AM Masato Thanks, as usual, for your help. I'll include the bibliographies as a link and weave the other sites in as appropriate. What I really need, though, is one or two experts on Italian Folk who can point me towards the most important core of books (maybe from 6 to 20 or so) with some background information and reasons for their choice. Something I can't do myself!!!
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: masato sakurai Date: 20 Mar 02 - 05:04 AM Bibliographies:
Bibliography of Italian Folk Music
Neapolitan & Italian Songs: Selected Bibliography ~Masato
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: masato sakurai Date: 20 Mar 02 - 04:43 AM Lyrics page: Mert's Italian Folksinging Page (Scroll down to select song genres)
Info site: ~Masato
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: hesperis Date: 19 Mar 02 - 10:47 PM Anyone have a tune for Mattinata? That is SOOOOOOOOOOOO pretty! A midi or recording would be preferred, but anything at all is good too. Thanks in advance. ~*sirepseh*~ |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: IanC Date: 19 Mar 02 - 07:33 AM Hi I've re-opened this old thread because, having recently returned from dancing at the Rocca Grimalda Carnevale I thought it would be nice to include an Italy section onder COUNTRIES in the Basic Folk Library PermaThread. I was helped a lot in the Germany section by Wolfgang and Wilfried and I need the same sort of help here. Can anyone suggest some useful books?
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Ferrara Date: 11 Dec 01 - 12:02 AM Naturally I'm drawn to any thread with "Italian" in the name! I had to changed threadID to threadid in Wolfgang's link, if the link doesn't work just make that change. Has to do with a (gasp) Bug in Mudcat. Rita Ferrara ps I know about another dozen Italian folk songs, where was I when this old thread was new? Oh well.... |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Wolfgang Date: 10 Dec 01 - 07:06 AM C'e 'na luna Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST,c. Curcio Date: 09 Dec 01 - 02:54 AM Just found the name of the song: "Che La Luna". Any help would be appreciated. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: GUEST,C. Curcio Date: 09 Dec 01 - 02:46 AM Does anyone have the lyrics to the song that Senora Corleone sings in Godfather 1? I would attempt to type the title, but I'm only 1/2 Italian and can barely order a good antipasti. Any help would be great. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Genie Date: 09 Dec 01 - 01:21 AM Molto grazie, Giuseppi* ed Kaleea! Genie *That's-a you, Joe |
Subject: Lyr Add: MATTINATA (Ruggiero Leoncavallo) From: Kaleea Date: 08 Dec 01 - 03:52 AM Italian is my second favorite language to sing in! Latin is my fav. I have also found a couple of those "Community" songbooks, which are a remarkable source of songs of the later emigrants who came over to the states. I do appreciate the popularity of, and interest in Italian songs & Opera generated by great singers like Pavarotti & the other two tenors, of course, and Andrea Bocelli. They have recorded some of the popular old Italian songs. One of my favs is Mattinata, which Dean Martin recorded & please forgive, I can't remember the name of the then young man who recorded it in the 60's. Mattinata by Ruggiero Leoncavallo (1859-1915)
L'arrora di bianco vestita, English version by Lorraine Noel Finley
The dawn in her mantle of whiteness
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Subject: ADD: Gesu Bambino (Italian) From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:06 PM Here ya go, Genie. I don't know Italian, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of the lyrics. I got it here (click). -Joe Offer- Gesu Bambino Nel L'umile capanna Nel freddo e povertà, E nato il santo pargolo Che il mondo adorerà. O-sanna o-sanna canano Con giubilante cor, I tuoi pastori ed angeli ORe di lu-ce e amor. Venite adoriamo, Venite adoriamo, Venite adoriamo, Gesu Redentor. Oh bel bambin' non piangere, Non pianger Redentor, La mamma tua cullandoti Ti Bacia, O Salvotor. O-sanna, o-sanna cantano Con giubilante cor, I tuoi pastori ed angeli O Re di luce e amor. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Genie Date: 07 Dec 01 - 06:49 PM Actually, I thought the English version said "O'er the calm water...," not "O'er the calm billow..." . |
Subject: Lyr Add: SANTA LUCIA (in Italian, Swedish, German, From: Genie Date: 07 Dec 01 - 06:46 PM A site referred to in another thread gave me this: Santa Lucia Melody - Melody - Luigi Gordigiani ~1855 or A. Longo, 1848 Sul mare luccica l'astro d'argento. Con questo zeffiro così soave, In' fra le tende bandir la cena, Mare si' placido, vento si' caro, |: O dolce Napoli, O suol beato, Or che tardate, bella è la sera. Here it is in Swedish: A.Kumar Oo, hurmav Napoli, Miks aega viita, kaunis on õhtu! |: Schön glänzt das Mondenlicht Am Himmelsbogen, |: Holdes Neapel! Ort süßer Freuden! |: Oh, warum zaudert ihr? Seht, welch ein Abend! Now 'neath the silver moon, Ocean is glowing, Chorus: When o'er thy waters, light winds are playing Genie |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Genie Date: 07 Dec 01 - 06:08 PM Can someone post the Italian lyrics to Gesu, Bambino, please? Also, I would like the second verse to Santa Lucia in Italian, if someone has it. Thanks, Genie |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Wolfgang Date: 19 Dec 97 - 09:30 AM Judy, no I never have met this man and never have heard the name. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: judy Date: 12 Dec 97 - 02:46 PM Ezio,
We all wish you the best in recovery. Nothing too serious I hope. Rest, recover and rejoin us when you can. http://www.stairway.org/kidsongs/ check out the links page. I've already sent her the DT URL. Wolfgang, have you ever run across a fellow from Germany (yeah, I know there are a lot of people there, but I might as well ask) named Joseph Gregor? In the 70s I ran across him leading a hootnanny in a hostel and joined a bunch of folkies who had collected the songs he taught them. They had stacks 3ft high! judy |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Dec 97 - 10:55 AM Two results of a search: Songs from Trieste Songs from Naples Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Ezio Date: 12 Dec 97 - 04:33 AM Hi you all friends. THANK YOU JUDY for inviting me at this thread. The matter is that recently I had a road accident, so I cannot surf the net as I would, and I have to stay away from the Cafe' for a while. I hope I will heal in a few weeks. By then I will probably start over a thread on Italian Folksongs Ciao - Slainte Ezio |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Wolfgang Hell Date: 11 Dec 97 - 08:57 AM I know "The Cuckoo and the Donkey" as a German folksong (same author as the German national anthem, by the way), but the guy who wrote it might have been only the translator. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Nonie Rider Date: 10 Dec 97 - 01:04 PM Isn't "The Cuckoo and the Donkey" also an Italian folksong? |
Subject: Lyr Add: IL CUCU = THE CUCKOO'S WELCOME^^ From: judy Date: 10 Dec 97 - 01:21 AM Thanks everyone for jumping in, I hope Ezio will join us soon. Like a good song, a good book gets around, I've got that Ditty Bag book too Thanks, Jon for those songs we all know in English: Funniculi and Santa Lucia. I have more 3 verses to Funiculi, Funicula in, I guess, what must be a Napolitan dialect because I have the translation into Italian. Here's a song about the cuckoo from Northern Italy I got from a German songster, Joseph Gregor. While we weather the winter, let's sing about May. Il Cucu L'inverno se n'e andato, L'aprile non c'e piu E maggio e ritornato Al canto del cucu Cucu, cucu, L'aprile non c'e piu E maggio e ritornato Al canto del cucu Lassu per le montagne La neve non c'e piu, Comincia a fare il nido Il povero cucu La bella alla finestra La guarda in su e ingiu La spetta il fidanzato Al canto del cucu Te l'ho pur sempre detto Che maggia ha la victu De far sentir l:amore Al canto del cucu The Cuckoo's Welcome translation: Win Stracke The snows of March have left us, The cold of April, too, And now in May we welcome The bird that sings cuckoo Cuckoo, cuckoo To snow and cold adieu We sing a song to welcome The bird that sings cuckoo The calf now seeks it's mother The lamb doth seek the ewe While up above doth hover The bird that sings cuckoo So, listen all you maidens, When young men swear they're true Just join the birds in singing The songs that sings cuckoo judy |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Jon W. Date: 09 Dec 97 - 10:24 AM Joe, how can you consider paying full price for a 50-year-old used book a real find?? Just kidding. Alice - Sicily is definitely part of Italy. As is Sardinia. All - keep 'em coming. |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Jen Date: 09 Dec 97 - 10:21 AM Yep, that sounds like the same book to me. I think I got mine for a buck too. Thanks! I hate it when people tear the title pages out of books. I have so many old books with no copyright dates. Jen |
Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Dec 97 - 04:35 AM Jen, my copy of "Ditty Bag" was copyrighted in 1946, and the title page says the price was $1.00. Published by the author, Janet Tobitt, of Pleasantville, NY. It's a nice little book of international folk songs. I paid a buck for mine at a library book sale, and consider it a real "find." -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Lyr Add: SONG OF THE MAREMMA^^ From: Jen Date: 08 Dec 97 - 11:37 PM Hey, I found one! Wow! Its in a little book called "The Ditty Bag", copyright who knows because the title page has been torn out. "Song of the Maremma" Everyone sings your fame, The Maremma is a fertile valley in Tuscany; the women curse its beauty because the men who work there die of malaria. Jennifer
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Alice Date: 08 Dec 97 - 09:28 PM A note about the tune for the lyrics I posted above. It is VERY similar to O SANCTISSIMA. Alice in MT |
Subject: Lyr Add: YEARS OF PEACE^^ From: Alice Date: 08 Dec 97 - 09:25 PM I found this in an old book. It is described as a Sicilian Mariner's Air. (Is Sicily close enough for this thread?)
YEARS OF PEACE
Years are coming, speed them onward!
Earth has heard too long of battle,
Years are coming when forever, This was in an old book for community singing that I got when a one room schoolhouse closed down. The copyright is 1915. Alice in Montana
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Subject: RE: Italian Folksongs From: Jerry Friedman Date: 08 Dec 97 - 07:36 PM The chorus of "Santa Lucia" on my Caruso record is "Tu sei la perla/ Dell'armonia,/ Santa Lucia,/ Santa Lucia." ("You are the pearl of harmony.") The last verse starts, maestoso, "O bella Napoli!". Maybe that's the Naples Chamber of Commerce's version. |
Subject: Lyr Add: FUNICULI FUNICULA^^^ and SANTA LUCIA^^ From: Jon W. Date: 08 Dec 97 - 12:25 PM Well, here's a couple of really common ones, with the disclaimer that I typed them from memories of more than twenty years ago. I also don't know if there are more verses to these. The English translations are by me. The first is fairly literal but I also kept it singable, the second is just literal.
FUNICULI FUNICULA |
Subject: Lyr Add: CARA MAMA IO SONO MALATA^^ From: Date: 08 Dec 97 - 01:52 AM Ezio from Italy put a thread up on the Highwayman. He reminded me of some Italian songs I've collected. How about you? Any Italian songs? Here's one I found in a book from the library a long time ago I think called "Botsford's Collections of Folk Songs" . It's also in Win Stracke's "Songs of Man" book (a terrific book with wonderful illustrations by Paul Freeman). It's got similar themes around the world of the daughter who says she's ill and wants something from the garden. The mother offers various foods which the daughter refuses until the mother offers a the gardener. "Yes, yes, yes, that is the cure for my pain and distress!" In the first verse the mother offers "l'insalata". The second, third, etc verses are exactly the same offering "la patata", "il pomidoro" etc. Cara Mama Io Sono Malata Verse I Cara mama io sono malata Ma una cosa nell'orto ci sta E nell'orto ci sta l'insalata Si tu la vuoi, io te la do Refrain Oh, mama no, no, no! Questo fa male pel male che ho! Oh, quant' e stupida la mama mia! Che no conosce la mala tia! Oh, mama no, no, no! Questo fa male pel male che ho! Verse II la patata Verse III il pomidoro Verse IV (add more garden items) next verse Cara mama io sono malata Ma una cosa nell'orto ci sta! E nell'orto ci sta l'ortolano Si tu la vuoi, io te la do last refrain Oh mama, si, si, si! Questo va bene par farmi guari! O quant' e cara la mama mia, Che conosciuto la malattia Oh mama, si, si, si! Questo va bene par farmi guari! Oh, Dear Mama I'm Feeling So Badly translation: Win Stracke Verse I "Oh, dear mama, I'm feeling so badly Go to the garden and find me a cure" "Yes, my daughter, I'll pick you some lettuce. And it will make you feel better I'm sure" Refrain "Oh, mama, no, no, no! That would be bad for me, mama, I know Why can't you stop being stupid and find me Something that's good for me and won't upset me?" "Oh, mama, no, no, no! That would be bad for me, mama, I know." Verse II potatoes Verse III tomatoes Verse IV (add more garden items) Last verse "Oh, dear mama, I'm feeling so badly Go to the garden and find me a cure" "Yes, my daughter, I'll bring you the gardener. And he will make you feel better I'm sure" Last refrain "Oh, mama, yes, yes, yes! That is exactly the thing that I need Where in the world is there such a mother? Search as I might, I could ne'er find another "Oh, mama, yes, yes, yes! Go find the gardener and bring him with speed." judy
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