BS: Popular Views on Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Aug 08 - 04:23 PM

>>>Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) sent a letter Sunday to the Democratic National Committee Credentials Committee urging them to give a full vote to the Michigan and Florida delegations.

Good news! I would have preferred that he had done that sooner.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 07:34 AM

Yeah, like before the primaries had ended!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:08 AM

SEN. BARACK OBAMA:They're going to try to say, "Well, you know, he's got a funny name, and he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills."

This is a Straw Man Fallacy. First he tells you what they are going to say and then he attack based on something that they have not said yet.

Also the "doesn't look like the other presidents" assertion is a play on racism.

Sorry, Mr. Obama, You do not bear the marks of a Statesman. You use false logic to claim you are a victim.

We don't need a leader with a victim mentality, we need winners.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:48 AM

Sorry Mister Sawzaw. You can't see winning for losing, and probably wouldn't know one if he bit your bum.

This is not a man with a victinm mentality, as anyone who looks past the end of their ...nose can see.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 01:52 PM

Statesman? You can't be a statesman while running against the Republicans. They eat up statesmen and spit them out like gum.

Obama is talking about attack that have already been made, in ads by the State party, right here in North Carolina, and rumor campaigns and internet attacks that have been spread by Republicans that we know. John McCain knows of these attack. John McCain condemns these attacks, but it is only theater. He has not even asked the 527's to knock off the negative ads as Obama has. He has his 527's waiting in the wings. The 527's are one degree of separation from the campaign, just as the swift boaters were. They are the same people.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 02:10 PM

Yeah, the new book is out about Obama. The guy started writing it after the 2004 convention. When he saw Obama's speech he figured he'd be the nominee, and started the book. I don't know it they'll start their attacks before the convention or not.


                  I think it makes sense to keep in mind, that in 2000, McCain was a victim of the Rove attack machine and lost the race. He won't make that mistake again, I'm betting.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 02:17 PM

Party politics has become so corrupted in the USA by those sort of underhanded attack tactics that I really can't see why or how any decent or sensible person would want to run for president and would ever manage to get elected if he (or she) did.

(no offense to Chongo...)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 02:21 PM

McCaing now has Steve Schmidt, a Rove Protege in charge of his campaign. Schmidt is behind the recent negative ads. In 2004, he worked for bush and in the war room used a slogan "Its the Hypocracy Stupid" and was responsible for the "I voted for the war before I voted against it ad. I'm waiting for the Obama people to hoist him on his own petard. I think they are waiting for an ad just nasty enough to be a perfect contrast to all of McCain's statements promising NOT to run personal attacks. The ads coming down the stretch will likely start with promises of a clean campaign followed by a digest of nasty ads. The tagline could be "Straight shooter" yeah right.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 02:22 PM

LH,

That one of the reasons Powell gave for not running for President.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 02:47 PM

I think he is a straight shooter. You just don't want to get in his sights.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 03:02 PM

I saw the "new" book on the tables at Costco this week; it took me about fifteen seconds to see through it and throw it back. PIece o' trash, from the indications.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 03:04 PM

Well Rig, he did throw a curve ball or two in the UN.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 04:37 PM

It would depend on how long your nose is, wouldn't it? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 05:17 PM

Correction:

Why is Amos so concerned with ass biting?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 05:20 PM

"Democratic Sen. Barack Obama holds a 2 to 1 edge over Republican Sen. John McCain among the nation's low-wage workers, but many are unconvinced that either presidential candidate would be better than the other at fixing the ailing economy or improving the health-care system, according to a new national poll.

Obama's advantage is attributable largely to overwhelming support from two traditional Democratic constituencies: African Americans and Hispanics. But even among white workers -- a group of voters that has been targeted by both parties as a key to victory in November -- Obama leads McCain by 10 percentage points, 47 percent to 37 percent, and has the advantage as the more empathetic candidate." (WaPo)

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Keep on trucking, Sawz. There's always room for a little more foolishness.

As for my obsession with ass-biting, let me offer you an invitation to try it out on my own royal bym.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 05:25 PM

Amos,

I thought Sawz had been chomping your butt all along! Are you wearing stainless steel speedos?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 05:33 PM

That should be "bum", sorry. The last place I want to make a typo is when insulting an internet provocateur. It just gives them ammunition.

Jack: no, I just use Gardol.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 06:06 PM

To Swaz, Rig, and anyone else who thinks Obama is an empty rhetorician with no genuine plans, I urge you to listen to the planning in this speech and consider what such a change would wreak on the face of this naiton.
(The same link Jack posted earlier on another thread).



A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 07:03 PM

Havoc, is what it would wreak!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 07:24 PM

LOL!


Riginslinger, I believe that "Havoc" is your middle name. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 08:23 PM

Gawd, Rig, you are a deep-dyed-in-the-wool sourpuss, ya know that?

I take it you (a) did not listen to the delivery (b) did not understand it or (c) are just being your usual obstreperous self.

Or (d), all of the above.



A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:29 PM

And room for more arrogance. I will leave all the ass biting up to the superior, more experienced Mr Amos.

Rasmussen Poll Only 22% Say McCain Ad Racist, But Over Half (53%) See Obama Dollar-bill Comment That Way.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of the nation’s voters say they’ve seen news coverage of the McCain campaign commercial that includes images of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and suggests that Barack Obama is a celebrity just like them. Of those, just 22% say the ad was racist while 63% say it was not.

Amos: Sing us the Oh Lord It's Hard To Be Humble song.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:34 PM

Sawzaw,

You seem to be confused. Amos is not Obama.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 10:36 PM

If he were, Chongo would probably have to withdraw the VP offer.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 11:25 PM

Sawz:

Go join a nunnery and let the peace that surpasseth all understanding heal you.

It ain't gonna happen coming around here being insulting, ya know.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 11:40 PM

Right now it seems Amos is trying to outdo Obama in the arrogance department

The Obama speech:

First 2 1/2 minutes were spent acting like a celebrity about his birthday, a cake and kissing the union's and other politicians ass.
Then he downplays the the oil we have in America. Claims we only have 3% of the worlds oil so why drill? Kisses the global warming theorists ass. Admits that the problem has been talked about for decades. Singles out McCain's actions during the decades. Falsely claims it would take 7 years to get oil from offshore drilling so why drill?. Falsely claims T Boone is against drilling.

He is going to hand out money to the union strangled auto industry. Blah blah. He proposes turning wood into fuel. No mention that trees reduce Co2 and even biofuels produce Co2. Naturally since he was in Michigan, handouts for auto companies were promised. Looks like a government bail out and campaign rhetoric instead of a plan.

What is needed is fewer government restrictions instead of deficit spending on bailouts.

T Boone said he was for drilling, solar, wind, nuclear, natural gas, every thing. Drilling in the US is merely a tide me over until the other sources are online. The mere announcement of more drilling offshore and in ANWAR will reduce the price of oil on the futures market.

Sorry Amos, All I see is finger pointing, rhetoric and government interference.

His windfall tax has been done before and what did it solve?

According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), is that the 1980s windfall profits tax depressed the domestic production and extraction industry and furthered our dependence on foreign sources of oil.

Tap the National oil reserve for a week's supply? Ridiculous.

If you let the video play it says Obama is 45% and McCain is 44% in the polls even after his momentous trip to Europe and this speech.

The Democrats are going to loose this election on the energy crisis alone.

And please notice Amos that I did listen and think about what Obama said instead of firing off a bunch of arrogant, uninformed, biased rhetoric like you.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 02:01 AM

>>Falsely claims T Boone is against drilling.<<

Obama said that Pickens said "We can't drill our way out of this."

I head Pickins say that exact phrase in several interviews. In this one he says "You cannot drill your way out of it."

See the video on this page.

How can you say this

>>And please notice Amos that I did listen and think about what Obama said instead of firing off a bunch of arrogant, uninformed, biased rhetoric like you.<<

If you don't pay close enough attention to understand what Obama is saying?
I could point out some other examples but one proves my point.

Obviously it is you who is too arrogant and biased to inform yourself.

In case you are wondering, the larger point is that McCain is saying that not giving the oil companies the leases now is preventing the price of gas at the pump from going down now.

Obama is saying that we won't see the oil for at least seven years. That is assuming that the Oils companies were ready to explore right now. Apparently they are not. So that will not affect today's market.

Pickens is not concerned about gas prices. He is concerned with weaning off foreign oil and selling windmills.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 02:50 AM

I think most of the "falsely claims"" statements are actually true, Sawz. The estimates I have seen say seven years before a drop of oil produced by offshore drilling reaches the market. And the 3% sounds about right. Besides--if it were five years and seven per cent, offshore and ANWAR drilling would still be a crippling solution, not a healthy long term one. As a solution it is like having just one more tablespoon of coke to help you get over being addicted. It does not face the real problem.

Pickens said what he said. Obama did not say Pickens was against drilling, he said that Pickens said this is a [problem we can't drill our way out of.

Sleep tight, bedbug.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 03:28 AM

>>>What is needed is fewer government restrictions

That sure worked out in the sub-prime loan industry.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 10:05 AM

Washington Post:

The Unavoidable Issue
By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Tuesday, August 5, 2008; Page A19

Last week's dust-up over race between John McCain and Barack Obama was entirely disappointing. Obama spoke first about how his opponents would try to "make you scared of me," noting that he "doesn't look like all those other presidents" on our currency. What Obama said was true, but he made the tactical mistake of suggesting that McCain was complicit in overtly racial politics.
That gave Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, the excuse to offer the preposterous charge that Obama had "played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck."

Davis's use of a dreadful cliche brought to mind George Orwell's observation that there exists "a huge dump of worn-out metaphors which have lost all evocative power and are merely used because they save people the trouble of inventing phrases for themselves."

Nonetheless, the Obama camp was caught short, and the candidate backed off a critique of McCain on race. McCain largely left the matter to his surrogates. Both candidates are wary of racial politics. Obama knows that whites and Latinos will constitute the vast majority of November's electorate, and McCain knows that many swing voters will be turned off by explicit racism. But the episode was a good example of how indirect and misleading political talk can be. Like it or not, Obama's race is an issue, just as John F. Kennedy's religion was an issue in 1960 -- and racism runs deeper in our history than anti-Catholicism.

There is no doubt that two keys to this election are: How many white and Latino votes will Obama lose because of his race that a white Democrat would have won? And how much will African American turnout grow, given the opportunity to elect our nation's first black president?


Let's dispose of the canard that there is something wrong with black people voting in overwhelming numbers for a black candidate. Minorities in the United States always turn out in a big way for the candidate who is breaking barriers on their behalf.

The most obvious example is Kennedy, who won roughly 80 percent of the Catholic vote in 1960, about 30 percentage points greater than the Catholic share won four years earlier by Democrat Adlai Stevenson. Proportionately, Kennedy's gain among Catholics was far greater than Obama's likely pickup over John Kerry's 2004 vote among African Americans, judging by the current polls.

More broadly, the race issue is used less overtly now than it used to be. When Democrats were the party of Jim Crow in the post-Civil War period, many in their ranks ran ugly, blatantly racist campaigns. Beginning in 1968 with Richard Nixon's Southern strategy, Republicans have been far more subtle in playing to white reaction on race.

Often, the appeal to white unease over race is overlaid with a populist rhetoric against "liberal elitists" who side with blacks while not understanding the struggles of the white working class.

William Connolly, a left-of-center political theorist, wrote an essay in 1981 that brilliantly captured why so many white working-class voters came to reject liberal programs.

Connolly argued that such voters saw the welfare state as turning on them, undermining the values they espoused and denigrating their efforts at self-reliance. They saw mandatory school busing as robbing them of their chance to secure a better education for their children by moving into better school districts. Especially among working-class white men, affirmative action seemed to treat "everyone else . . . either as meritorious or as unjustly closed out from the ranks of the meritorious."

When liberals dismissed such concerns as purely racist, Connolly noted, "These vulnerable constituencies did not need too much political coaxing to bite the hand that had slapped them in the face."

The great opportunity this year for less scrupulous Republican strategists is that Obama is both black and a Columbia-and-Harvard-educated former professor who lived in the intellectually rarified precincts of Hyde Park in Chicago, Manhattan's Upper West Side and Cambridge, Mass. They can go after him subtly on race and overtly on elitism. They can turn the facts of Obama's life into mutually reinforcing liabilities.

Is this unfair? Yes, it is. But if our nation is to cast off the shackles of race this year, Obama will have to grapple more than he'd like with the burdens that our history and the past travails of liberalism have forced him to bear.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 10:09 AM

Why Isn't Obama Further Ahead?
Dear Stumped:

Why isn't Barack Obama breaking away from John McCain in the polls, considering the strength of Obama's campaign, his inspiring message and the negative brand equity of Republicans and the Bush administration?

Dutch


Over the weekend, I was riveted by the story of the dodgy character the New York Post amusingly called "Mockefeller," a con artist who'd long pretended to be a Rockefeller and who kidnapped his daughter in Boston last week. (He's been apprehended, she's ok, so all's well). But I couldn't get anyone around me to focus on this drama; all anyone wanted to talk about was the point you raise: Why isn't Barack Obama further ahead in the polls?

I agree with your premise; it shouldn't be so close. The Republicans' brand equity, as you put it, has been greatly devalued, and Obama has been running a polished campaign predicated on delivering change and resurrecting hope to a country weary of George Bush & Co.

One problem for Democrats is that they have yet to convince centrist voters that a McCain administration would indeed represent a third Bush term. McCain's maverick reputation, fairly or not, is his strongest asset. He's the ideal GOP nominee, insofar as he is able to avoid being victimized by the party's awful brand equity. It's up to the Democrats to convince the electorate that whatever he might have been in the past, McCain today - on Iraq, tax policy, energy policy, you name it - is a pretty standard GOP standard-bearer.

The contest to define Obama is of even greater consequence, likely to determine who wins the presidency, and whether it's by a large margin. He is new on the national stage, and inspiringly/shockingly "new" as a black candidate with a foreign father and Hussein for a middle name. Voters may go to the polls in November with generally positive feelings towards McCain (as they did towards Bob Dole in 1996), but he'll still be trounced if Obama manages to reassure them that he is ready to become commander in chief, and is patriotic enough, and independent enough (at times he does seems a tad beholden to his party's special interests) to do what's right for the country in that position.

It is sad, of course, that this is the test before him (the patriotism/identity part of it). And it will be distasteful to watch the lengths to which Republicans will go to make sure he flunks in the eyes of those heartland voters who still insist that he must be a Muslim, even as they decry the rants of his longtime Christian minister.

It would be unfair, however, for Obama's campaign to cry "racism" every time Republicans try to define the Democrat in unflattering terms. It would also be a mistake, likely to backfire with voters who won't take kindly to a relative newcomer trying to exempt himself from the ordinary, if unfortunate, rough-and-tumble of a presidential campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 10:10 AM

"I urge you to listen to the planning in this speech and consider..."



                   Okay, I listened to about 2/3 of the speech. It was so boring I couldn't stand it anymore. Getting tired of being talked to like a third grader, I finally turned it off...

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 10:36 AM

That's soooo relevant, Rig. He wasn't talking to you, obviously; he was making a cam[paign speech in Lansing. As for boring, I guess it depends on what you care about.   

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 11:52 AM

I guess that begs the question--who in the world was he talking to? And if one cares about solving problems, one needs to offer solutions, failing to do that turn the dialogue to boredom.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 11:56 AM

But Rig...that's exactly the thing you are missing. He was laying out a program of solutions.
Read the bloody speech and rethink.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 03:22 PM

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Forget the war for the White House for a moment. Among young people, Barack Obama appears to be beating John McCain in the battle for "cool."

"Obama is a tad cooler than McCain on probably 57 fronts," said Emily Goulding, 25, of Los Angeles. "Obama's better looking than McCain, Obama's more stylish than McCain, Obama's more fit than McCain. He refers to better music than McCain."

"Obama's big with the kids, everyone knows that," said Tom Johnson, 21, of Norfolk, Va. "McCain — that guy's not cool. I just can't call McCain cool."

"It's got to be Obama," said David Munn, 20, of Keene, N.H. "He's younger, I think he has more of a connection with my generation. I just think he communicates better to my generation, especially with issues in Iraq. (McCain) is all right, but not as cool as Obama."

According to these members of Generation Y, Obama, 47, has the "cool" thing down. He's an avid basketball player, listens to Jay-Z on his iPod and was on the cover of this month's issue of Rolling Stone magazine.

McCain, on the other hand, has admitted he's a big fan of the '70s-era Swedish disco band ABBA and an "illiterate" when it comes to using a computer. He turns 72 next month, and if elected, he'd be the oldest president in American history to begin his first term.

Obama has a 2-to-1 lead over McCain among 18-to-34-year-olds, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released last week. The same poll gave Obama an 8 percentage point lead among registered voters nationwide. In an AP-Yahoo News poll in July, the two were virtually tied among voters overall.

..." (AP)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 03:57 PM

McCain may not be a hep cat with generation next but he's totally rad with other demograpics.

He will be speaking here this weekend.

Sturgis Bike rally.

There will be lots to do!

Schedule
Buffalo chip beauty pageant
Girls of Sturgis bike week
Larry the Cable GuyQ
There is even a fake orgasm contest!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 04:01 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — A new poll finds Barack Obama is leading John McCain nationally by 6 percentage points thanks to big leads he is enjoying among women, minorities and younger voters.

The Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that Obama is leading his Republican rival 47 percent to 41 percent. McCain has a 10-point lead among whites and is tied with the Democrat among men, but Obama is leading by 13 points among women and has huge leads with minorities and the young.

The poll was released Tuesday following a week in which the two camps accused each other of bringing race into a campaign in which Obama is seeking to become the country's first African-American president.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 05:35 PM

11 point lead for Obama among women

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 08 - 05:37 PM

McCain is about as boring as oatmeal on a Saturday night. I find it hard to believe he could win the election, because Obama ain't boring...but Obama's "Black". Bit of a conundrum for the middle American voter, ain't it?

I felt a bit worried by that Obama energy speech. Sounds to me more like doing the usual vote-buying than a genuine statement of future policy intention. But why should I be surprised? An election is usually just a massive exercise in vote buying and the speeches will be honed to fit the audience every time, so they will hopefully go out and rubber stamp the candidate into office on election day.

Once there, he does something quite different.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 01:29 AM

MSNBC pointed out that FOX news reported that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

It is true that his dad was born there.


For a lie to stick to the wall, it must first be thrown

dream em up churn em out and THROW
Do to an over supply, lies abput Obama are being bought by the McCain campaign at 6 cents a pound.
bizarre religious education regarding Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Emma B
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 09:41 AM

Beneath the poll 'headlines'

A poll conducted by Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway of WomenTrend and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake of Lake Research showed that neither Obama nor McCain has secured support from a majority of women voters

49 percent of women prefer Obama and 38 percent prefer McCain.
Six percent of those women said they were only leaning toward a candidate.
Ten percent were undecided

Nearly 90 percent of black women and 62 percent of Hispanic women polled prefer Obama, while nearly half of white women prefer McCain. More Hispanic women remain undecided (14 percent), compared to black women at four percent and white women at 11 percent.

In the poll, 55% of women say that Obama's selection of a female running mate would make no difference to their voting choice.

The poll's results were based on interviews with 500 women across the country with an additional 100 black women and 100 Hispanic women. The margin of error for the main sample is plus or minus 4.4 percentage points, while the margins of error for the subgroups is higher.

However other polls, while in agreement with these results for younger women, have also indicated that Barack Obama has a problem among women over 40 and a big problem among women over 50.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 10:19 AM

Does that make McCain the post-menopausal candidate?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:30 AM

McCain is more popular with people over 50, as was Bush. Does Obama have a "problem"?
Obama's biggest problem is the media constantly framing neutral information in a negative way.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:38 AM

This poll disturbs me. I hope it is not a valid weathervane of greater America.

Are We Tired of Hearing about Him?



From the link that JtS posted, verbatim: "Barack Obama appears to becoming the 8th Wonder of the World in discerning people are wondering how this Obama nation he is attempting as messiah to unite one planet nation under god, that Mr. Obama is setting the stage for an international disaster."

Wunnerful how edjicated we is.

Another View of Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:47 AM

Polls are stupid. They are an attempt to manipulate the vote. They should not be publicized at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:47 AM

Ebbie

I didn't post that. I think its too lame.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:50 AM

Yes, we are tired of hearing about him. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Personally, I'm tired of hearing him, period.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 11:53 AM

That has become quite evident. ;-) Just think how tired of it you will get if he gets elected!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Aug 08 - 12:34 PM

LH - I think I'll quite talking about it and rest up in case that happens.