BS: Popular Views on Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 08:21 PM

Shallow, very shallow!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 09:50 PM

Gee, Rig, you must be looking in the mirror again.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 01:31 PM

ANY PRESIDENTIAL vote is a gamble, and Mr. Obama's résumé is undoubtedly thin. We had hoped, throughout this long campaign, to see more evidence that Mr. Obama might stand up to Democratic orthodoxy and end, as he said in his announcement speech, "our chronic avoidance of tough decisions."

But Mr. Obama's temperament is unlike anything we've seen on the national stage in many years. He is deliberate but not indecisive; eloquent but a master of substance and detail; preternaturally confident but eager to hear opposing points of view. He has inspired millions of voters of diverse ages and races, no small thing in our often divided and cynical country. We think he is the right man for a perilous moment.


WaPO, 10-13-08

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 03:24 PM

Washington Post:

In W.Va., Lingering Doubts on Obama

By Ruth Marcus
Monday, October 27, 2008; Page A13

WILLIAMSON, W.Va. -- It's hard to find a place more Democratic than here in Mingo County, snug up against Kentucky in the southwestern corner of the state, where Mother Jones fought to unionize striking coal miners.

In 2004, when President Bush trounced John Kerry by seven points in this state, Mingo voted 56 percent for Kerry. Of 19,391 registered voters, just 1,741 are Republicans.

For Barack Obama, though, Mingo presents a decided challenge -- one that has implications beyond the West Virginia coal fields, implications that may linger beyond Election Day. Hillary Clinton beat Obama by 41 percentage points in the state primary, but by 80 points in Mingo, the biggest gap statewide.

West Virginia -- which voted twice for President Bill Clinton, twice for Bush -- is a long shot for Obama, but not an impossibility. Polls give John McCain the edge, but when vice presidential nominee Joe Biden stopped in Charleston on Friday, Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller said his polling showed Obama a single point behind.


The AFL-CIO added West Virginia to its list of targeted states last week; the American Federation of Teachers, the state's largest union, has launched radio ads; and United Mine Workers President Cecil Roberts joined the state's Democratic governor, Joe Manchin, on a bus tour through southern counties, including Mingo, this month.

"We feel like we can pull this one off," said State Senate Majority Leader Truman Chafin, who represents Mingo. "It was tough going for a while. People were mad about Hillary losing this thing." Even now, he acknowledged, in places like Mingo, "there's probably not a lot of enthusiasm for [Obama]. It comes down to what's best for me and my family."

An Obama win is "a possibility, and a month ago I thought it was out of reach," said Judy Hale, president of the West Virginia AFT.

West Virginia Republican Party Chairman Douglas McKinney said he was unconcerned. "A minority of them have made their peace" with Obama, he said of Democrats who backed Clinton in the primary. "Obama's entirely too liberal. His positions on gun control and abortion are more than most people in West Virginia can overlook."

Indeed, hours of interviews with voters -- outside the Wal-Mart in Mingo, up the road in Logan County, and north of Charleston in the swing county of Jackson -- illustrate Obama's uphill climb and raise questions about similar voters in states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania. It does not take long to hear the worst rumors about Obama -- or to wonder how the people repeating them would deal with the fact of an Obama presidency, if it comes to pass.

"If I do vote, it will be Republican," said Charles Mount, a 31-year-old mechanic and registered Democrat. "There's just something about Obama. You hear so much about him being a Muslim. I don't personally believe that but I don't know that. I'm not going to take a chance on the leader of our country."

"If Barack Obama gets in, it basically will be giving our America away to whatever . . . ," said Jamie Willis, 42, who voted for Clinton in the primary. Her husband, Brent Willis, 37, a contractor and registered Democrat, filled in the blank. "To be brutally honest with you, if Obama goes in there the [blacks] are going to go crazy -- and I'm not a prejudiced person."

Terry Sanders, a court clerk, said he "wouldn't vote for Obama if he was running for dog catcher. His values are completely different from mine. Why's he got a problem with the flag? He wouldn't put his hand over his heart. It casts a lot of doubt about what kind of man is this fellow."

These are not incendiary quotes cherry-picked from among multiple interviews or cajoled out of people reluctant to express a view. They came from the first eight people who stopped to answer my questions -- of whom just one said she supported Obama, citing the backing of the mineworkers union.

In my interviews, Obama fared better among the swing voters of Ripley, in Jackson County, which has a slight majority of registered Democrats but voted solidly, twice, for Bush. At the local Kroger, many shoppers said they had voted for Bush, regretted it, and were torn this time around. "I voted for Bush last time and I don't feel like that turned out real well," said Teresa Cottle, 36, a registered nurse who is undecided. Voting for McCain would "be like putting Bush back in office," said Tonya Taylor, 46, who backed Bush but "might just" vote for Obama.

If Obama can convince enough such voters -- here, and in the growing eastern panhandle of the state -- he just might win West Virginia. But as the comments from voters in Mingo suggest, he would have a tough road ahead.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 03:47 PM

Our local paper - The Ft Worth Star Telegram has only endorsed Democrats three times in their history. And they just came out for Obama:

Story Here

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 04:20 PM

West Virginia appears to tilt to the right, all right. Virginia, equally hard toward Obama.

The battleground states that have changed lately alls eem to be leaning toward Obama:

10/27 New Hampshire Solid Obama »»» Leaning Obama Obama 306 - McCain 157 Obama +7.3
10/27 Arizona Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain Obama 306 - McCain 157 Obama +7.3
10/26 New Hampshire Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 306 - McCain 157 Obama +7.6
10/24 New Hampshire Solid Obama »»» Leaning Obama Obama 306 - McCain 157 Obama +7.9
10/23 Montana Leaning McCain »»» Toss Up Obama 306 - McCain 157 Obama +7.5

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 04:36 PM

ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama
Monday, October 27, 2008 8:24:25 PM
By LARA JAKES JORDAN

The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed but predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 04:46 PM

You've got to wonder how many more of them are out there.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:02 PM

ANd who educates them,...

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:21 PM

"...Republicans call Obama a radical, because he once met one, and a socialist, because he'd restore tax rates on the rich to about what they were under Bill Clinton, well below their historic highs under such other notable socialists as Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower.

Obama is an incrementalist, an empiricist and a conciliator. The real question is not whether he is a closet radical but whether he'll move boldly and quickly enough to avert disaster. There are signs he will. We can only hope.

Apologists for John McCain say the economy derailed his campaign, but it isn't so. In just three months, McCain made three awful decisions. The first, and worst, was his choice of the unprepared and ethically challenged Sarah Palin. It cost him bunches of prominent Republicans and boatloads of lesser-known independent voters.

The second was not the financial crisis but his handling of it; the bellowing, the finger-pointing, the empty theatrics. Both candidates caved to the wretched bailout bill, but voters contrasted McCain's bombast with Obama's Buddha-like demeanor and drew their conclusions about whom they'd trust in a crisis.

McCain's third strike at bat was his central campaign message. Eight years have passed since the Bush machine brutally defamed him. What did he learn? To throw his lot in with Bush and then hire Bush's hatchet men to defame Obama. The result has been arguably the ugliest presidential campaign in living memory.

McCain may go down as the last man, for a while anyway, to do unto others as Bush did unto him. The old right wing has run out of issues. Such stalwarts as abortion, affirmative action and homophobia have lost their bite. It's why McCain needs his new running mate, Joe the Plumber, a poster boy for raw resentment.

It should be of more than passing concern to Connecticut voters the role played in all this by our junior senator, Joseph Lieberman, who was one of the first McCain acolytes to turn to the dark side, alleging Obama's opinions were "out of the mainstream" and feigning uncertainty as to whether Obama is a Muslim.

In Miami last week, Lieberman extolled the virtues of "Jose el Plumero." Earlier in Boca Raton, he called the Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers smears "fair game" because "we don't know that much about Obama." Perhaps the politics of fear finds a receptive audience in Florida. Back in the Senate, and here in Connecticut, Lieberman will find it goes down harder.

Nineteen years ago, I was blessed to be in Berlin as the Wall came down. It was among the most exhilarating experiences of my life, walking among the throngs of window-shoppers as they tasted not only capitalism but freedom for the first time. No one knew exactly what the fall portended but all felt the sense of impending liberation.

In a way this election is like that. America has been victim of a historic political logjam. We don't know everything an Obama administration will bring, only that the logjam will explode and the river of the democracy will flow again. It has been a dismal election at times, but beyond a doubt it is the most important of our lives. ..."

From Bill Curry on this page.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 07:35 AM

The National Republican Trust Political Action Committee, or NRT PAC, has launched a new television commercial arguing Obama would both issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens and extend to them U.S. Social Security benefits.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 07:43 AM

This late in the game the NRT PAC will say anything that it can think of... Problem is is that McCain is a hard act to follow when it comes to "fear 'n smear"...

BTW, unless someone can find where "fear 'n smear" has allready been coined, I think I'll just claim it and wait for the royalty checks to arrive...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 08:31 AM

"Fear n' Smear," I like it!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 02:44 PM

What Obama says:

"North Carolina, I've got two words for you: six days. And you don't even have to wait six days to vote – you can vote early right now. But this is important: when you do vote, you have to vote in two steps – one for President, and one for the rest of the ticket. If you vote for a straight ticket, you have not voted in the presidential election. You need to vote for president separately.

Six days.


After decades of broken politics in Washington, eight years of failed policies from George Bush, and twenty-one months of a campaign that has taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are six days away from change in America.


In six days, you can turn the page on policies that have put the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street.


In six days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle-class, create new jobs, and grow this economy from the bottom-up so that everyone has a chance to succeed; from the CEO to the secretary and the janitor; from the factory owner to the men and women who work on its floor.


In six days, you can put an end to the politics that would divide a nation just to win an election; that tries to pit region against region, city against town, Republican against Democrat; that asks us to fear at a time when we need hope.


In six days, at this defining moment in history, you can give this country the change we need.


We began this journey in the depths of winter nearly two years ago, on the steps of the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois. Back then, we didn't have much money or many endorsements. We weren't given much of a chance by the polls or the pundits, and we knew how steep our climb would be.


But I also knew this. I knew that the size of our challenges had outgrown the smallness of our politics. I believed that Democrats and Republicans and Americans of every political stripe were hungry for new ideas, new leadership, and a new kind of politics – one that favors common sense over ideology; one that focuses on those values and ideals we hold in common as Americans.


Most of all, I believed in your ability to make change happen. I knew that the American people were a decent, generous people who are willing to work hard and sacrifice for future generations. And I was convinced that when we come together, our voices are more powerful than the most entrenched lobbyists, or the most vicious political attacks, or the full force of a status quo in Washington that wants to keep things just the way they are.

..."

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 03:58 PM

"North Carolina, I've got two words for you: six days. And you don't even have to wait six days to vote – you can vote early right now. But this is important: when you do vote, you have to vote in two steps – one for President, and one for the rest of the ticket. If you vote for a straight ticket, you have not voted in the presidential election. You need to vote for president separately."


                Are there actually people voting in North Carolina who are so stupid they can't figure this out for themselves? If so, that's scary!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 04:02 PM

Sure, Rig. Just as there are people reading this site who are "stupid enough" to think that was the important part of the excerpt.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 04:17 PM

Are there actually people voting in North Carolina who are so stupid they can't figure this out for themselves?

Not so stupid. From what I've read, North Carolina is the only state in the entire USA where they do it that way, requiring a separate vote for president even where someone votes a straight ticket.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 07:02 PM

Obama shows bad judgment Obama Endorses Kwame Kilpatrick


Kilpatrick pleads guilty: 'I lied under oath'
Mike Wilkinson September 4, 2008 The Detroit News

DETROIT -- In four short words, Mayor Kwame M. Kilpatrick acknowledged his guilt Thursday morning, admitting he lied during a whistle-blower case brought by two former police officers who claimed they were punished for looking into wrongdoing by the mayor's staff.

"I lied under oath ... with the intent to mislead the court and jury and to impede and obstruct the fair administration of justice," Kilpatrick said after he pleaded guilty to two felonies -- a plea that will require him to spend four months in the Wayne County Jail, resign his office and pay $1 million in restitution.

Kilpatrick also will agree not to seek office during the five years he is on probation and will surrender his state pension to the county. And he will surrender his law license.


"The city of Detroit can now exhale," said Kwame Kenyatta, the City Council member who spearheaded efforts to force Kilpatrick from office. "It will go down in our history as a mayor who fell from grace."

The fallout from the guilty pleas was immediate. Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings announced her resignation as civic and business leaders sought to use the day to put a capstone on a scandal that has weighed upon the city since January....

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/METRO/809040440

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 07:20 PM

Yes, "Bad Judgement" seems to be Obama's middle name. No, wait, his middle name is something worse than that, it's, it's...

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 30 Oct 08 - 10:53 AM

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 30, 2008 09:43 AM Boston.com


A new set of battleground state polls show Democrat Barack Obama ahead in Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Republican John McCain is holding on in his home state of Arizona.

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. polls released this morning, Obama leads 52 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in Nevada, 52 to 46 percent in North Carolina, 51 percent to 47 percent in Ohio, and 55 percent to 43 percent in Pennsylvania.

In Arizona, McCain leads 53 percent to 46 percent.

The polls are the latest that show the potential for Obama making deep inroads into traditionally Republican states, setting himself up for a possible electoral landslide on Tuesday.

The surveys were conducted Oct. 23-28 and have margins of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points in Arizona, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and 4 percentage points in Nevada and North Carolina.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 30 Oct 08 - 12:00 PM

PEter Bridges, U.S. Ambassador for many years to many countries, writes in the Huffington Post:

"Dear Friends and Relations,

A friend and former colleague of mine in the Foreign Service, Kevin McGuire, some time ago drafted a short statement of support for Obama and began to ask retired Foreign Service officers if they would sign it. So far 334 of us have done so, including by my count 66 former American ambassadors.

If you would like to know why we have done so and who we are, you can find our reasons and our signatures at Foreign Policy for Obama.Com: Declaration of Support by Over 280 Former Diplomats. (Ed. note: the number is now over 330.)

You can go to ForeignPolicyforObama.com and click on the link in the left hand column.

I will remind you that the Foreign Service of the United States is our country's career diplomatic and consular service. We staff both the State Department in Washington and our embassies and consulates abroad. Usually two-thirds or more of our ambassadors are Foreign Service officers, although both Democratic and Republican administrations have made a number of ambassadorial appointments for political reasons. Some of these Republican appointees and, by my count, two former career officers, have come out for McCain.

Our Service has sometimes been criticized by Republicans who label us a bunch of liberals. I cannot speak for my former colleagues, but as I said in a recent essay, if we must use labels I want to be considered a liberal conservative. I am a conservative because, among other reasons, I believe in a prudent course for the country, including a conservative fiscal policy and conservation -- two old Republican virtues that present-day Republicans have forgotten.

In the Foreign Service we serve the President and the Constitution faithfully -- I served under seven Presidents, finally as ambassador to Somalia under President Reagan -- and we do our best by our country. We do not speak lightly about national security. Five of my friends and colleagues were killed by terrorists. More American ambassadors have died violent deaths since World War II than our admirals and generals combined. Two other friends and colleagues were kidnapped by terrorists, but survived.

I have backed Obama since I wrote, in early 2007, the review of his second book that I hope you will read at The Cal Review. He is a prudent manager, a professor of constitutional law, and a moral and upright man with sound judgment. I agree with Colin Powell that Obama is fully qualified to be commander in chief. He understands the problems that we face at home and abroad, and he will begin -- though it will take years -- to resolve them. He has a sturdy and experienced running mate, Joe Biden, whom I have admired greatly since I first met him in 1981.

Obama is running against a man whose chief virtue seems to be that he withstood five years of arduous imprisonment and torture and, since he could not equal the Navy record of his father and grandfather, went into politics after he married a rich wife. McCain has changed his positions as the years have progressed, but he has always supported the super-rich through the years as our society has divided.

He is the candidate of a party whose last candidates for President and Vice President were George W. Bush and Richard Cheney -- who inherited a budgetary surplus, sent us to war under false pretenses, and ran the country into the ground. McCain has chosen as his running mate and possible successor a woman who backed hundreds of Federal millions for the "bridge to nowhere" before she opposed it (and then kept the money) -- whom an independent investigator in Alaska finds guilty of ethics laws in the Troopergate scandal--and who knows so little about our Constitution that she says the Vice President is in charge of the Senate. I will leave it to the Republicans to explain the new report that she spent $150,000 of party funds on clothing and cosmetics.

Barack Obama did not approve this message. It's all mine.

Regards to all--
Peter"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 12:48 AM

Presedent elect Obama has feelers out to Syria

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 01:01 AM

The arrogant President elect, Obama has the stars and stripes on his plane replaced with his own Logo.

Change we can believe in.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 01:07 AM

Yeah, they're probably asking the Syrians to not respond to Bush's provocations. Good idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 01:44 AM

Sawz:

You're acting like a jerk again. Just thought I would mention it.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 02:03 PM

ELECTION 2008
Experts affirm: Ayers wrote Obama's memoir
Scientific analyses independently find radical's mark on 'Dreams From My Father'

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Posted: October 29, 2008
12:12 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily




Independent scientific analysis by a number of leading experts supports the literary detective work of WND columnist Jack Cashill that has led him to conclude unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers was the primary author of important sections of Barack Obama's highly acclaimed memoir and editor of the book as a whole.

Obama's 1995 book, "Dreams From My Father," won the 2006 Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album and drew praise from Time magazine, which called it "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."

But since July, Cashill has unveiled in a dozen columns, summarized here, his compelling evidence that the co-founder of the radical Weather Underground group – dismissed by Obama as "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood" – shaped and refined the book with his exceptional writing skill and radical ideas.

The evidence, Cashill says, "severely tests Obama's claim of a superficial relationship with the self-declared 'communist' Ayers. This appears to be a conscious and consequential deception."

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 10:01 PM

How convenient for World Net Daily.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 11:04 PM

Well, I guess you have to know them...

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 07:38 PM

Amos:

When I replace the US flag with something of my own, you can righteously call me a jerk. Until then you are protecting a jerk.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: heric
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:22 PM

My middle-school-aged daughter says that Obama took drugs and drank alcohol when he was in high school. Apparently it's the talk of the school kids these days. He wrote it in a book.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:36 PM

Apparently it's ok for our presidents to have drugs and alcohol in their backgrounds. GW Bush does, and that didn't stop him from serving as president.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:47 PM

Yo, heric...

George Bush is an alcoholic... He has been arrested for DUI... As president he has has at least one major relapse which was blamed on pretzels??? Ended up in the emergency room... Pretzels won't get you into the emergency room...

Yo, Sawz,

What Amos said... Plus, as a former social worker dealing 90% with clients who came straight outta Central State Hospital (da nut house) in Pertesburg, Va., you are a sick person... Very sick... You need serious mnetal health help... This is beyond politics... You need to find some thelp... And quick... You are paranoid at the very least...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:59 PM

According to snopes.com, dear Sawznuttin', the flag on the tail of the plane is the copywrited logo of North American Airlines from which he had chartered the plane. After his nomination, Obama's campaign bought his own plane, outfitting it with his own logo.

You are pitiful.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 09:12 PM

I thought of telling my daughter about Bush and all the other Presidents but I saw myself on a downwards trajectory.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 09:30 PM

I had some of those difficult moments with my son when he was that age. Because of the "just say no" anti-alcohol and drug training he was getting in school, I made sure I didn't give him any mixed messages by ever drinking alcohol in his presence. Then one day when we were visiting with some of my friends at their house, he saw them drinking beer, and he was shocked!

I really didn't have any good answers for that.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 10:35 PM

I would think a kid would see all of that stuff on TV and in the movies anyway. It's seems funny he would be shocked.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 12:13 AM

Movies are fantasy, and kids know that. It's entirely different to encounter something disturbing or unexpected in real life. You will realize this as soon as a gunfight erupts on your street or a T-rex comes charging into your backyard... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 04:37 AM

My kid didn't watch any commercial TV. The only TV he had access to (because we lived in the boonies and it was all we could get) was Maryland Public Television. There's not a lot of beer drinking or drug taking on MPTV. He didn't see too many of those kinds of movies when he was that age, either, if any.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 06:26 AM

The last T-Rex who ran through my backyard didn't stop. He was late for a dental appointment!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 09:03 AM

"Ron Reagan Officially Supports Barack Obama: The Reagan Era Takes a Detour
Submitted by mark karlin on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 8:04pm. EditorBlog
MARK KARLIN'S EDITOR'S BLOG
November 1, 2008

Call it the final stake in the myth and destructive path of the Reagan era. On the evening of October 31, Ron Reagan -- son of the Gipper -- officially endorsed Barack Obama for President.

Reagan now has an evening program on Air America (and is quite good), and had withheld an "official endorsement," he said, because he figured that listeners knew by now where he stood. But you also sensed listening to him that he decided to make a clean break that began when he appeared at the Democratic Convention in 2004. He didn't endorse Kerry then; he spoke on behalf of sickle cell research.

I was there in Boston when he spoke in the convention center and the crowd didn't quite know how to react to the offspring of the Moses of the kooky right wing. Eventually, he received a warm but still restrained round of applause.

Since that time, Reagan -- as anyone who listens to his Air America program will learn -- has become a clear progressive, and if he had not formally endorsed Obama on Halloween Eve (on his radio show), you knew that he was going to vote for him.

But now it's on the record. The son of Ronald Reagan who bears his name is officially backing Barack Obama for President."

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM

A list of Republicans supporting Barack Obama.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 10:53 AM

The son of Ronald Reagan was traumatized by having to live with his father.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 11:50 AM

My favorite quote from the Republicans in that link...


"Obama has a brain, and he isn't afraid to use it."

--Linwood Holton, Former Governor of Virginia

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: heric
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 02:19 PM

They forgot me on their list:

"We are so sick and fucking tired of the neocons and all their shit."

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:14 PM

You are pitiful. I need help. you are paranoid cause you don't smoke dope like me, I know better than you.

Yep, the elitists are in full bloom. Any body that disagrees with them or Obama is somehow an inferior human being. Maybe not even human.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/airtrade.jpg

The forward flags are copyrighted logos, not the flag on the tail.

The registration number is still N755NA. The campaign did not buy an airplane for Obama. The original one got a $500,000 refurb.

Need any more help?

Also in a typical arrogant Obama "tough decision", the reporters from 3 newspapers that endorsed McCain got booted off the plane because there was not enough room and somebody had to go.

Then all of a sudden, to everybody's amazement there was room for reporters from Ebony and Essence magazines.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:17 PM

Like I said.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:29 PM

"Then all of a sudden, to everybody's amazement there was room for reporters from Ebony and Essence magazines."



                     Who was amazed?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:39 PM

Amos: "the Troopergate scandal" How about Biden's troopergate where the cop actually did get fired?

I was advised by my sergeant that I was to pull Ms. Biden out of the vehicle, perform the remaining field sobriety tests, and that if she was indeed found to be intoxicated and operating a motor vehicle then she was to be arrested and processed accordingly. Needless to say, when she performed the rest of the field sobriety tests she was barely able to stand let alone perform the tests. I looked to my sergeant for one final guiding point and he raised his arm as if to say "What are you waiting for, arrest her." I did.

From this point on, she became both belligerent, verbally abusive, and actually propositioned me several times in an effort to be released. I was told by her that her father was a great and powerful man and that she would have my badge! She was processed and blew a .16 on the intoxilyzer (twice the legal limit within the city limits at the time). She was treated with the utmost of courtesy â€" actually above and beyond while in custody because of who she was.
She was only handcuffed during the ride to the station and roamed freely about
the booking area with her nose up in disgust voicing complaints as to how dirty the place was and how displeased her father was going to be with all of us. She was released a short time later that morning....

Two weeks later I was fired without just cause which they could do because of my probationary status as a new officer. I was given reasons that you don’t fire for as being the reasons why I was being let go. It was very strange.

I went through two attorneys that once they got close to the case they mysteriously advised me that they had to drop the case.

What Joe Biden and the Newark PD did to me destroyed my life and has scarred me forever....

A few months ago it was brought to my attention that 3 Delaware State Troopers were fired for arresting Ashley Biden for being drunk and disorderly at a party recently (within the last year).

During the course of arrest she resisted and was dealt with accordingly. I know very few details about this other than what I have just written. I am going to reach out to the Delaware State Trooper’s Association and see if they can verify this and if true put me in touch with the 3 troopers.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:51 PM

The media isn't interested in Biden's troopergate; it doesn't advance their agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 05:23 PM

Well Well Well. That is allegedly 4 policemen actually fired for a DWI arrest of the daughter of a vice presidential candidate and it is not even news worthy. Biden pulls some strings and it never goes to trial.

But the alleged attempted firing of a policeman that threatened to put "a bullet in the fucking brain" of a different vice presidential candidate's father is criminal, she is guilty by default.

Change we can believe in.