BS: Popular Views on Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Aug 08 - 02:59 AM

I would love to use the statistic that more US servicemen are contributing to the Obama campaign. But is it verifiable? And is there a reason given? I throw that out there I'll be laughed at whether it's true or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Aug 08 - 09:04 AM

"You obviously did not watch the event and are ignorant of what was said."


                         Jack - I saw a fat bearded buffoon, incapable of rational thought, putting irrelevant questions to the two major candidates for president, both of whom should have had something more important to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 08 - 11:08 AM

Well, I think that's bull in the first degree. Without staff, he accomplished a great deal long before he ran for President.

You can nullify and majke nothing of his talents and his obviosu uintelligence all youw ant but (1) it won't make you any more right and (2) it won't make Obama any more wrong.

Your complaint that I disagree with those with whom I do not agree appears tautological and semantically nul.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Aug 08 - 01:55 PM

I have noted for some years now, Amos, that you always disagree with those with whom you do not agree, and that you persist in doing so in a totally consistent and invariable manner. In so doing you are running with the crowd, my good man, cleaving to the dull mainstream, conforming to the norm, behaving in a shockingly generic and predictable fashion...like the people who shop at WalMart! This does not befit a man who can casually drop terms like frisson into a conversation without even making it seem like he's straining his credibility. This tendency you have to disagree with those with whom you do not agree is disturbing. It suggests that you may not be as brilliant as I had thought...that you may, in fact, be little more than a rank poseur! When can I expect you to break out of the straitjacket of predictable knee-jerk reactionism and instead strike a bold new stance of independent thought and political analysis?

Hmmmm?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 01:46 AM

The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

It's something Hillary doesn't understand how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.

Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.

Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.

His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American. He has served in the senate for only 143 weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:11 AM

'The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama,'...

is a cut and paste job appearing in emails and on message boards all over in the last few days.

It is attributed to Dr Jack Wheeler - (guest you 'forgot' to mention this) the self-proclaimed 'Conservative Voice' who brought such insights into American politics as

'Can Democrats Celebrate Thanksgiving?'

'The Dems and Libs will on this day mouth pious platitudes about our blessings, making sure to riddle them with let's-not-forget buts: Thank you, O (substitute whatever they put in place of God) for America's blessings but lets not forget the victims of Katrina and the homeless and the starving Banglesdeshis and every ailment on the planet because they are all Americas and George Bush's fault.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:54 AM

Viral e-mails attack Obama's life story

'What began as a demonstrably false attempt to cast Obama as a Muslim has now metastasized into something far more threatening to the likely Democratic nominee. The spurious claims about his faith have spiraled into a broader assault that questions his patriotism and citizenship and generally portrays him as a threat to mainstream, white America.'

Politico May5 '08

To be fair similar attempts have been made to discredit the Republican candidate by (amongst other things) accusing him of collaboration with the North Vietnamese in exchange for being provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes.
I think this came from the poison pen of Dr Jack too!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Emma B
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 07:03 AM

and.....to complete the picture

Hillary Clinton sleeps with women!

'One reason is that it's too blindingly obvious that Mr. Clinton's book should have been titled "My Lie." All of that stuff about Hillary being mad, making him sleep on the couch, going to marriage counselors for a year, yada yada, is all made up. They have had a pact for decades: He gets to fool around with women, and she gets to fool around with women (plus the occasional man like Vince Foster). Yes, she's bisexual — I disclosed that in an infamous Strategic Investment column in January 1993, and Dick Morris publicly revealed it a few years ago. You knew that, right?'
courtesy of Dr Jack - who else?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 08:08 AM

Wonderful!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:11 AM

Verifiable?    In politics one need only say that something is verifiable (which is potentially true for anything until disproved and then it is too late)
That is of course unless you are a honorable investigative reporter.


Regarding McCan't not remembering how many homes...

3 of those homes are investment properties one of which is a parking lot. T
hat leaves two homes that may be rented. WHO LIVES THERE?

A good reporter would find out what kind of landlord the McCan'ts really are....unless the renter has already been bought off.
Are they renting to the Saudi Royal family or Keating andhow much is the rent????????????


Potential future attacks on Obama:

SEX...
His wife had abortions.
Barack had sex with women other than his wife (especially before marriage)
Barack paid for abortion
Barack has obscene pictures in his email folder
Barack helped cover up Edward's affair
Claims by women requiring DNA samples from Barack

MONEY
private investigator fees
list of contributors who have commited a crime or are suspected of a crime
missing money
Oprah contriuted from a corporate account above the legal maximum

RACIAL
"Half White" takes on new deraugatory meaning
Kenyan father's ancestry is shown to include Arab bloo
Favors blacks over whites
usual ethnic purity racist attacks

REMOVE HIS ISSUES
Bush administration neutralizes Barack's call for timeline by makeing a timeline of troop withdrawl.

Barack suggested 12,000 more troops to Afghanistan then Bush did so 3 months later.

Barack suggests covert action in Iran, then Bush actually did one.

Barack suggests that McCain has shot himself in the foot.
McCain arranges quale hunting trip with Cheney.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:15 AM

JAnet:

You really should be ashamed of yourself passing just foul gas in public places.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Stringsinger
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:56 PM

Obama is a flawed candidate but much better than the alternative McCain and his beer queen. Obama sold out on the telecomms and his faith-based initiatives are against the first Amendment of the Constitution. He has no control how the religious organizations that will receive our tax dollars will spend them. They have no accountability. It's a cave-in on Obama's part.

Obama has excluded much of his activist base through these actions.

He also has not decided to eliminate Blackwater and other mercenaries from their warlike aspirations. He also would defend the "Green Zone" making him a part of the American exceptionalism and imperial ambitions. He has mentioned going into Pakistan and Afghanistan which means that he might also call for a draft.

Obama's good points are that he is intelligent (unlike McCain) and it would be nice
to have a president who knew how to put a sentence together. His speech on race relations was admirable.

Can he really effect change? It is questionable because today the country is run by
private corporations who control the news media and the defense industry. He would have to be a Teddy Roosevelt "trust buster" and he doesn't show signs of doing that.

I voted against Goldwater who threatened to bomb Cuba only to mistakenly support
Johnson who perpetrated the Vietnam war fraud.

I will vote for Obama but I still don't trust him.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 09:48 PM

"Barack helped cover up Edward's affair..."


             Now if you could prove that one, it should be deadly.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 10:37 PM

If 'Bama can't handle "a fat bearded buffoon, incapable of rational thought, putting irrelevant questions' he does not have the cajones to be president.


Take away his staff of 400 to 500 and he is just a little girlie man being picked on by big mean people.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 11:21 PM

But he does have the huge staff, and the money to pay them. MoveOn.org is about to pull of a political coup. It would be helpful to know who they're working for.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Peace
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 11:32 PM

"It would be helpful to know who they're [MoveOn.org] working for."


First, last and always, they're working for themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Peace
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 11:57 PM

Joe Biden it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 01:31 AM

Take away any candidates' staff, or any senator's and you'll soon see an overloaded human. Big so what.

IF you weren't so bitter and dedicated to nastiness, you'd have noticed that.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 01:47 AM

STOP!! You are ALL right!!...They both suck!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 08:02 AM

This is the full text of Obama's "answer":

"Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade."

What candidate or Senator has or needs a staff of 400 to 500 people?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 08:23 AM

While McCain's answer, having heard Obama's on the radio of his "motorcade" vehicle was "At the "moment of conception." McCain says that saying such a thing is leadership. But I say "do we need to be lead over the cliff of self imposed ignorance?"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 08:54 AM

Obama campaing staff member:

Policy Development: Cassandra Q. Butts

Senior Vice President for Domestic Policy at The Center for American Progress. A senior advisor to Rep. Richard A. Gephardt; worked for Gephardt for seven years during his tenure as House Democratic Leader and volunteered as the policy director on his 2004 presidential campaign. An Assistant Counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense & Educational Fund.

CAP's Liberal Leadership:

Former Clinton Chief Of Staff John Podesta Launched "Liberal Policy Institute" Center For American Progress (CAP) "To Drive The Message For Democrats." (Julia Malone, "Activists Race To Fill 'Soft Money' Gap," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 9/21/03)

The Nation: "It's Not Completely Wrong To See [CAP] As A Shadow Government, A Kind Of Clinton White-House-In-Exile – Or A White House Staff In Readiness For President Hillary Clinton." (Robert Dreyfuss, "An Idea Factory For The Democrats," The Nation, 3/1/04)
·       "It Is The Official Hillary Clinton Think Tank." (Christian Bourge, "Analysis: Liberal Think Tank Debuts," United Press International, 7/7/03)

CAP's Extreme Left Wing Funding:
George Soros Reportedly Pledged $3 Million To CAP. (Amy Westfeldt, "Billionaire Puts His Money Where His Mouth Is – Toward Ousting Bush," The Associated Press, 6/10/04)
    * Soros Has Been Called The "Daddy Warbucks" Of Drug Legalization. Joseph A. Califano Jr., Op-Ed, "Devious Efforts To Legalize Drugs," The Washington Post, 12/4/96)

Major Democrat 527 Donors Peter Lewis And Marion Sandler Sit On CAP's Board. "For example, in 2003, Peter B. Lewis and Marion Sandler sat on the board of the Center for American Progress, a 501c3 non-profit. They are also major donors to Section 527 organizations involved in this year's political discussions. Peter Lewis is ranked #2 in donations to 527s this cycle after giving $23.1 million. Marion Sandler and her husband are ranked #4 after giving $13 million." (Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 11/17/04)

·       Peter Lewis, George Soros And John Sperling Have "Bankrolled The Pro-Pot Movement." (Joel Stein, "The New Politics Of Pot; Can It Go Legit?" Time, 11/4/02)


But Sawzaw, PNAC is the shadow Govermint, ain't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 09:21 AM

PNAC is not the shadow goverment as much as one of its steering commitees. Such as the Rand Corporation is one of its steering commitees.
When you say shadow goverment it is not one thing but rather a collection of MIComplex entities with certain designated drivers.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 10:17 AM

Soros is trying to countermand the billions of dollars that so called conservatives have poured into propaganda. This money has caused baseless fairy tails to be repeated as accepted fact. Nonsense like "Tax cuts provide economic stimulus" and "Democrats are weak on national security" and "Offshore drilling with drop oil prices today.

People like Sawzaw are proof that promoting this claptrap works.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 12:27 PM

Robotii non consequiet habeunt.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 12:53 PM

Taxes are at the core of each candidate's economic agenda. Mr. McCain's proposed tax cuts are directed mostly at the wealthy; Mr. Obama's are aimed at lower- and middle-income Americans and paired with tax increases for the wealthy. This page has long decried the high-end tax cuts of the Bush years. And Mr. McCain's plan to continue them, while piling on more, will neither grow the economy nor raise revenue. The mega-deficits they would create would be a drag on any growth.

NYT Editorial

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 09:16 PM

"First, last and always, they're [MoveOn.ogr] working for themselves."



                      Too bad they're not working for the good of the country!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 09:19 PM

The people who most need more money are those below the tax threshold.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Aug 08 - 11:10 PM

That's a good point, Richard. And getting money into the hands of those people would do the most to stimulate the economy.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 01:41 PM

Give the wealthy more money and they will only invest in Asia.

The rich might need to trade in their yacht or plane and buy some mansions on the cheap but for the most part they have already bought everything they want.
Giving the rich more money now is a bit like the Monty Python fat man at the fancy Restaurant having one more thin mint.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 02:44 PM

Actually, they are working for the good of the cou8ntry. Too bad it isn't more widely acknowledged.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 03:32 PM

You won't ever see a poll on this but if share holders were given the choice of making a greater profit or investing outside the USA to the further destruction of the American economy....

I think America would be a distant 2nd.


Speaking of polls today the talking points are that polls indicate that McCain and Obama are now dead even

however when you look at each of the seven different polls today NONE of them show a tie or McCain in the lead.

Other polls being hawked today say that 57% of America are worried that Obama is inexperienced.

Yes polls will do what ever your tone and shaping of the question dictates but they are effective propoganda tools for elections.
I wonder if people would be worried that a former prisoner and torture victim is claiming that being a prisoner is the best qualification for one to be president.

"Is being a tortured prisoner the best qualification to be president?"
If this were a poll question I predict 80% would say no
Rove counted on this last time.

Of America's 10 million prisoners, not all are felons unable to vote.
Hmmm lets poll the prisons

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 09:41 PM

"Soros is trying to countermand the billions of dollars that so called conservatives have poured into propaganda."

Ya got that one backwards Jack.

How about the propaganda that Obama does not use lobbyists in his campaign?

Jun 4, 2008 ... Senator Obama has promised not to use lobbyists in paid positions on his staff.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 10:02 PM

"Actually, they are working for the good of the cou8ntry. Too bad it isn't more widely acknowledged."


                         Amos - I think they [MoveOn.org] think they are working for the good of the country, but in reality, I think they see themselves as citizens of the world first. I further think that this is why Obama appeals to them.
                         Frankly, I think being a citizen of the world is a very important thing. The problem is, some parts of the world are not ready to make this transition. I think you need another Teddy Roosevelt or two, before you can surrender you sovereignty completely.
                         I think Obama would do it now. I would wait until third world nations and places under the control of religious zealots brought their population growth under contol first.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 10:49 PM

Obama would be like a second term for Carter.

Then when he proves unable to execute his hope and change platform. whatever that is, it will be wide open for Billary in '12.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:11 PM

sawzaw,

You are so marinated in that propaganda that you don't even notice the top one percent picking the meat off your bones.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:17 PM

"Nyahh! Nyahh! Nyahh! Bunch of F-in losers! You suck! Nyahh! Nyahh! Nyahh!"

You just heard the delightful sound of partisan politics in the USA. Total disrespect fueled by mutual contempt and hatred. A pretty sad spectacle it is too. If you ever get an even half-decent government through this meanspirited process you call "an American election", I think it will rival even Moses' reputed parting of the Red Sea in the annals of miracles.

You know what I think? Americans are probably going to get the government they collectively deserve once again, given their present state of mind. That could be quite dangerous for the world in general, and not too good for Americans either.

Deja vu.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:51 PM

Perhaps JTS can offer something more than childish personal attacks.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Aug 08 - 11:51 PM

They got a good start tonight. Show off the family, and homage to Teddy.

I don't believe I've ever visited this thread. Who is this "GUEST, Sawzaw" person? Never saw them before, but then a search shows that he/she is only here for political BS. Not a single music posting in over 200 so far. Means a larger grain of salt is called for.

Oh, well. Back to the rest of the forum.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 08:36 AM

Jack, that top 1% is carrying part of your dead weight, in case you didn't notice.

Take them out of the picture and suddenly you would be paying more taxes to make up for what they pay for you.

The Canuckians need to learn a little respect themselves. How is Canada's trade surplus doing?

Aaaahhhhh, Canada's trade surplus with the U.S. is $6.13 billion while the trade deficit with countries other than the United States is $3.8 billion.

Looks like Canada sells stuff to the US, uses that to buy cheap stuff from other countries like China and still has money left over to pay for it's socialist form of government.

Take the US out of the picture and what happens? Socialism collapses once again because it is a non-viable form of government unless it has rich capitalist countries to feed off of while decrying how evil they are.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 09:27 AM

Looks like Sawz' Bile is on the fly once again. Never seen such a bitter polemic. Canada, old sourpuss, does not feed on the United States. They sell goods and services and hand-carved mounties and folk music here.

If the United STates were taken out of the picture, as you suggest,t here would be much more to worry about than which form the government takes.
Your implication that there is something parasitic about the relationship is off the mark, offered without substantiation, devoid of any thought, and strikes me as just your personal well of hatred overflowing once again.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 10:10 AM

"Years from now, you'll look back and you'll say that this was the moment, this was the place where America remembered what it means to hope …. Hope is the bedrock of this nation. The belief that our destiny will not be written for us, but by us, by all those men and women who are not content to settle for the world as it is, who have the courage to remake the world as it should be …. We are not a collection of red states and blue states. We are the United States of America. And in this moment, in this election, we are ready to believe again."

Barack Obama, Iowa

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 11:44 AM

Sawzaw is taking bile from right wing blogs and polemic sites and presenting it as his/her own thoughts. That explains the lack of logic and the flitting from one tangent to another. Seems like someone shows up to do that every election.

He/she is obviously not interested in any of the reasons social or musical reasons the forum exists and just wants to pretend to be intelligent by cribbing other people's nonsense.

The fiction that the top one percent of income earners is creating wealth and paying my taxes rather than siphoning it off and making my taxes higher is part of that fiction. We don't spend trillions on the military to defend my little house. The big government money is spent taking care of those people.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 12:08 PM

I'm with you GUEST,Sawsaz


Go getem tiger. Bring it on.
You sound like a Man with a job of great respondsibility.
You know how to command and get the job done.


The democrat party will never get the job done.   
I don't think that the demoncrats are fooling anyone with their new found love of GOD. Their fake faith is blasphemey. ITs worse than taking the Lord's name in vain.

These low rent tree huggers and song singing troop haters don't repect authority and have never invested millions of dollars in America like us.
America is for the share holders who own a share of the ultimate sacrifice and repondsibilty for our freedom, our economy, our homes and our children.

We gotta show these uppity radicals and McCain bashers that its our way or the highway.

We need a Surge Splurge around the world and especially here at home, to show these animals once and for all who is boss.

Sawsaz If you don't tell them, they will never know.
One suggestion however, facts and figures will never bring these lefty socialists around.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 12:53 PM

Six of the Seven Barack half brothers have been found in a Pakistani 'training camp'



My name is donuel and I onion that message.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 01:20 PM

Talk about thread drift! What in the least has the sniping got to do with "Popular Views on Obama?" I was hoping for some serious commentary here, seriously.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 01:51 PM

The spiral works like this. A serious discussion gets interrupted by a half-baked head-in-lower-GI remark by an ill-informed sniper. A reaction sets in in which said sniper is excoriated, chastised, corrected, calumnified or roundly dismissed with humor or without. The serious discussion is by this time so derailed it takes several posts to get it started again.

I heard Michele give her talk at the DNC. It was quite excellent--simple, passionate, straightforward and very well-delivered.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 02:01 PM

There is one thing since a quarter of the country seems willing to swallow every bit of trip Fox News spews, isn't that a popular view of Obama?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 03:26 PM

"Popular Views on Obama"


               He seems to be dropping in the polls, even while the convention is going on.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Obama
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 08 - 03:32 PM

LOL!

Sawzaw, Canada is not a "socialist" country. Canada is a capitalist country with a profit-based economic system very similar to that of America, we just happen to have a couple of specific socialist institutions you don't, such as a national radio program (CBC) and universal health coverage. If a member of my family has a medical emergency...I don't have to go broke over it.

That hardly quailifies us as a "socialist" country, though, since 98% of what happens here is capitalist. I think you may have us confused with Cuba or something...

And, hey, we've been doing a lot better lately than the USA economically speaking. Maybe it's because we aren't spending a trillion dollars a year on a war in Iraq.