Circus PELs - I told you so!

Subject: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 01:07 PM

Goodbye Cruel World

Giok

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: JennyO
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 01:51 PM

Oh dear, very sad. Who's the fool now?

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: Willa
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:16 PM

yes, there was a similar story in the local paper from the owner of the circus which was in this area recently

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:29 PM

A good chance for the people to rise up and protest-- ALL the people, not just the folkies!

Picture the poster-- a woeful child's face, holding cotton candy, with the caption "And then they came for me."

Excerpt from the story:

Ministry of clowns threatens circus

So why, you may well ask, is the Department for Culture, Media and Sport apparently determined to cause grave damage to this great tradition? The Licensing Act, which became law last year and takes effect next spring, has within it the means to kill off a large number of British circuses, leaving just the big operations in business.

The reason is that, for the first time, circuses are to be licensed. Moreover, they will have to apply and pay for a separate entertainment licence for every venue they visit. Most circuses perform on up to 40 different sites a year and will need a full premises licence for each one if they are there for four days or more. Depending on the site, each will cost between £100 and £500, which means an individual circus faces a potential annual bill of £20,000.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: The Stage Manager
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:12 PM

Either this is administrative incompetence beyond the last shred comprehension or it is control freakery run riot. Just how bloody stupid can you get?         

Oh Hell, Iraq!

So it'll be administrative incompetence beyond the last shred comprehension then.

SM

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 06:45 PM

So What Chance Sessions now ?????????????????????????????????????????

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 06:51 PM

I see the Torygraph is on the ball about acts going through parliament. Have they mentioned the rumour that India may get independence?

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 09:04 PM

I wonder if the Results of the European Parliament Elections may help to cause panic in the ranks? It's worth pushing that button.

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 10:06 PM

It would seem to me that the owner of the premises needs to get a license, not the performing body. Whoever owns the lot gets it, and whatever performing bodies work there would be covered, just as a band would be covered in a pub with a license.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 02:15 AM

If paying and obtaining the licence was left up to the owner of the land, usually a farmer's field, the travelling circus as we know it, is a thing of the past.

You are right, that it is set to be the case. We now have situations where local councils are having to block licence pieces of their own land, just in order be able to provide their traditional Punch and Judy shows.

The Act was simply badly drafted and passed in haste.

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 07:47 AM

Is this going to do for travelling fairs as well?

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 08:06 AM

Fairs don't have live music, but are a far greater noise/pollution/health and safty risk than circuses, most of which no longer even have animals. This is exceptionally stupid!

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 11:13 AM

It is less the live (or recorded) music. The circus has trapeze etc - this is caught because it is considered as a sport.......

No sadly this is not a joke.

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 11:58 AM

But BOY do we wish it was!

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 04:11 AM

I say...

blow raspberries in the faces of adversity!

E

Subject: RE: Circus PELs ........I told you so!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 04:58 AM

*rasp*