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Subject: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 03:16 PM

Help with UK licensing problem

Sessions under threat in UK

URGENT HELP REQUIRED

Sessions under threat Pt 2

MAKING MUSIC IS ILLEGAL

Day of action 19 July 2001

Council bans Morris dancing

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Council bans Morris pt 2

Write an email for Shambles?

IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Write an email Pt 2

PEL (UK)

And then they came for me

Freedom to sing

UK TV Cove Session

Tenterden weekend PELs

UK Minister insult folk

HELP CHANGE MUSIC IN MY COUNTRY

News for visitors to UK

Contact your MP tonight

USA HELP Where is Dr Howells?

PEL More Questions

Nominate a Two in bar award

Letters to important folk

UK Catters can be useful today

Killed by the PEL system

OFFICIAL no tradition in UK pubs

OFFICIAL no tradition Pt2

How old is the tradition in UK pubs

What is folk OFFICIAL

Cannon Newport Pagnall no PEL

Dr Howells on Mike Harding Show

Is this man killing folk music?

24 July 2002 Day Of Action


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 06:24 PM

URGENT ATTENTION ALL MUDCATTERS


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: GUEST,anonymoose
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 10:38 PM

"Overkill" is the first word that comes to my mind, but I guess I'd better not say anything...


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 09 Aug 02 - 01:33 PM

Action for Music


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From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 02 - 10:16 AM

TV sport vs live music


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Aug 02 - 10:20 AM

PELs in Scotland


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From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 02:08 PM

PELs and the Law: Twas ever thus

EFDSS letter to UK Government


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Sep 02 - 10:01 AM

Licensing Reform


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From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 02:12 PM

Killed by the PEL system Part 2


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Oct 02 - 04:54 AM

PEL Idea


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 06:44 PM

Some useful links outside Mudcat

Action for Music http://www.geocities.com/actionformusic/main.html

Early Day Motion 1182 http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=1182

Fax your MP http://www.faxyourmp.com/

The White Paper http://www.culture.gov.uk/new_responsibilities/liclaw.html

Jazznights Music issueshttp://www.jazznights.co.uk/musicissues.htm

Two in a bar http://www.twoinabar.co.uk/

Musicians Union http://www.musiciansunion.org.uk/

Hansard Commons debates etc http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm/cmhansrd.htm

Shepheard Neame http://www.shepherd-neame.co.uk/company/reform/

CaLM http://www.tradmusic.net/calm.html

Tevor Gilson's ScoFF site http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/trg/SCoFF/session.htm

The Guardian coverage of the Day of Acton (with Video of Billy Bragg) http://politics.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,9174,762799,00.html


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 06:26 AM

BS: Licensing Reform


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From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 06:29 AM

kim howells does it again


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 02:36 PM

Queen's Speech, Licensing Reform
Cross-indexed to here.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 08:33 PM

Link to the Bill on the Parliament site

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/001/03001.i-viii.html

Link to Schedule 1. Definitions of what is licensable i.e. 'entertainment'

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/001/03001.107-111.html#J1s1


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 09:31 PM

PELs UK music needs your HELP


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From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Nov 02 - 07:38 AM

PEL Song


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 03:46 PM

The following is a link to a site where Jim Lawton has worked very hard, with hyper-links and cross references, to make the Schedule 1 'gibberish' a little more readable.

However, even when you can read it, it is still not any more sensible. Good work Jim and thanks.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.lawton/schedulefrontpage.htm


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From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 01:25 PM

Dancing Outbreak and definition


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From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Nov 02 - 07:55 AM

Fighting the PEL


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From: The Shambles
Date: 30 Nov 02 - 01:22 PM

MU Campaign- Freedom of Expression


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From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 06:51 AM

Hobgoblin letter


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From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 04:56 AM

Letters intended for publication on the
Letters Page of The Times should be e-mailed to letters@thetimes.co.uk
Please include a full postal address

You can email letters to the Guardian at the following address: letters@guardian.co.uk, fax them to 0207 837 4530, or post them to: 119 Farringdon Road, London EC1R 3ER
They do not publish letters where only an email address is supplied; please include a full postal address and a reference to the relevant article. If you do not want your email address published, please say so. They may edit letters.

Daily Telegraph
Letters to the Editor
dtletters@telegraph.co.uk
Please include a full postal address


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 04:02 PM

Can YOU help the Blue Bell session


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From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 02:10 AM

The list of Lord's amendments for today's debate. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/001/amend/ml001-if.htm


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From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 10:17 AM

House of Commons- Early Day Motion 331.

http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=331

LICENSING OF LIVE MUSIC 10.12.02
Whittingdale/John


That this House expresses concern that the Licensing Bill proposals to make the performance of live music licensable in pubs and clubs, in places where alcohol is served, in churches, synagogues, mosques and other places of worship, in schools and colleges, in community centres and village and parish halls, and in private homes and gardens where private parties and weddings may be held will have an enormously detrimental effect on musicians and live music performances; fears that the raising of money for charities by musicians will be seriously compromised; considers it will seriously impinge on the folk community including folk music and traditional folk activities such as morris dancing, wassailing, &c; believes that the penalties for breaking the law of a six month jail sentence of a £20,000 fine are far too draconian; considers it grossly unfair and inconsistent that live music will not be licensable in Scotland but will be in England and Wales; regrets that the Government has decided to replace the anomalous two in a bar rule with a none in a bar rule which will catch all live music performances; believes that the requirement for the provision of entertainment facilities to become licensable which will ensnare music shops, music and dance studios and teachers, represents a totally unacceptable regulatory intrusion into mainstream activities; and calls on the Government to amend the relevant parts of bill in order to remove the iniquities faced by musicians and the music industry as a whole.

Please circulate this and get your MP to sign?


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From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 07:24 PM

A CRIMINAL CONVICTION FOR CHRISTMAS


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 07:27 PM

Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)


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From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 04:57 AM

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199900/ldhansrd/pdvn/lds02/text/21212-01.htm

The Lords Debate on the Licensing Bill. 12 December 2002


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 10:52 AM

Is there a site somewhere that succinctly describes the problem in terms a foreigner could understand? I mean, one that assumes no prior knowledge of British law, governmental structure, terminology, or the history of the problem?

It needs to start with the very basics: What is a license? Who issues a license? To whom is it issued (the venue or the performer)? How much does it cost? What does it cover? Was there a recent change in the law that started this controversy?

And hopefully, the site wouldn't use any abbreviations without explaining what they mean. (PRS, MCPS, EFDSS)

And please don't start a new thread to answer these questions. I'm afraid it would just evolve into another long-winded discussion that I wouldn't have the patience to read. I'm hoping for a LINK.


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 11:50 AM

http://www.geocities.com/actionformusic/


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 12:26 PM

It sure would be nice if someone could make a common prefix for PEL discussions. In lieu of this could all you PEL folks start each new thread with PEL


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Dec 02 - 02:27 AM

Sign a E Petition to 10 Downing St

To sign the E petition click the following.

http://www.musiclovers.ukart.com/


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 06:48 AM

Petition Clarification.

The above is a thread started by Graham Dixon to explain the petition as regards welcome overseas contributions.


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Subject: RE: PEL threads. links to all of them.
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 12:24 AM

Folking lawyers


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From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 02:11 PM

Mummers stopped at Cerne Abbas


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From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 02:15 PM

What actitivies to be criminalised?


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From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 02:18 PM

Protest demo bring gag


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From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 03:19 PM

PELs for Beginner's


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From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 04:22 PM

Lords debate 17 December 2002

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199900/ldhansrd/pdvn/tuesday/index.htm



Lords debate 19 December 2002
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199900/ldhansrd/pdvn/thursday/index.htm


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From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 03:34 PM

From Eliza Carthy and Mike Harding


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From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:34 PM

PEL DEMO 27 January 2003


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From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:36 PM

PELs The inner workings of minister's minds


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From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:40 PM

BBC on pub carols catch it


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From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:42 PM

PELs Enforcement How?


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From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 01:02 PM

PEL unemployed actor dancer look


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From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:49 AM

http://www.musiciansunion.org.uk/articles/two_in_a_bar01.shtml

The MU's site is now well worth a visit.


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From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Jan 03 - 05:23 AM

The Weymouth Folk Festival


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From: The Shambles
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 12:40 PM

PEL NCA Campaign Free Seminar


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From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 05:54 AM

Music Police raid The Sloop session


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