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Subject: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 12:48 PM

We are all asking how we can help.

Here are a few suggestions that I know about.

Donate money. The American Red Cross is the first that comes to mind. But don't forget all the churches. I know from personal experience that nearly every chuch in the South will send help (money, packages, people, etc.) to sister churches throughout the region. Here in Bardstown we have a long tradition of hosting refugee families, Vietnamese, Bosnian, etc. Your money goes a long way when it goes to a small church in a small community. The ladies that run our food pantry can stretch a dollar farther than anyone I know, and are very practical and knowledgeable about what foods to stock. Our local ministers run a homeless shelter that is an ongoing project. I'll be in northern Mississippi this weekend and have relatives in Houston if anyone wants anymore info on specific churches and organizations.

Publicize relief efforts and projects that you are personally familiar with.

I'm sure there are lots of other ideas. This will be longterm, and the needs are great.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 12:56 PM

I posted this on another thread but in response to "publicize what you are personally familiar with" I'll put it here also:

Mennonite Disaster Relief

The Mennonite crews are experienced and non-ideologically driven. Plus all of the workers have signed on as volunteers. (The fact that many of them are my relatives has nothing to do with it! *G*)


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 01:05 PM

Thanks Ebbie. I didn't see the other thread.

I just notice that UMCOR (United Methodist Committee on Relief) is making "flood buckets" for only $1.50 apiece. clink

I personally know that most church-run agencies have long traditions in this area and are well-run.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 01:06 PM

sheesh... "noticed" and "link" not clink! Well, maybe clink as in money. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 01:12 PM

I thought you were making that statement, Mary. 'Clink' is a good one. As is 'Rustle'!


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 01:48 PM

Yes - What I like about these church run agencies is that by and large the majority of the money given for relief goes to the people that need it. I get concerned about the overhead of some of the well known agencies that have TV ads, lobbies in Washington ect.

There are many people here at the Mudcat that would label religion a mental illness. But while we debate it there are hundreds of big and little churches across the nation are taking ACTION to help those in need. And that's a pretty good mental illness if you ask me.

Rant over.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 03:45 PM

I just got news of several of the organizations in Kentucky that are sending trucks and resources to Louisiana and Mississippi. I'll know more specifics later.

Everyone I know is working through their own particular professional organization, work hierarchy, personal network, etc. to do what they can.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:01 PM

NO specific... suggest that in the future, one doesn't build a city on the coast, below sea level


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:05 PM

A clink is comewhere between a clicky and a link, I kinda assumed it was on purpose!

Thanks for the info...

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:09 PM

Unless it breaks, when it is a clunk. In any case, Wesley, you are quite right, but referring to the groups of people who gather under one or another roof to worship something as religion in the same sense as the beliefs and doctrines they follow is a bit glib. The Boy Scouts and the National Guard are out helping as well.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:27 PM

My maw in law is a volunteer for the Red Cross. Don't know if she is going or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:50 PM

The AVMA (American Veterinary Association) has deployed teams of veterinarians to assist with animal care. link


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 04:51 PM

In the midst of an excellent editorial in The NATION, imo, are some links to where people may donate online.

Here is part of an excerpt from another article, cited in the one above:

New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.

Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: "No one can say they didn't see it coming....Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."

In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared,
President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 05:52 PM

Kentucky cities to provide beds for some refugee patients


link


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 06:18 PM

Just as I feared...just heard that gas is unavailable in some western Kentucky cities now. As I said to PoppaGator in the other thread, I have a full tank now and am in central KY headed to western KY tomorrow, probably back here on Sunday. If anyone needs emergency transportation, let me know quick.

PS My trip to northern Mississippi will probably be cancelled.


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Subject: RE: BS: How can I help?
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 06:19 PM

Like Wes, I have a problem with trusting where things go so I check a bit beforehand. A good source for relief efforts in our city comes from two TV stations, both very reliable in assuring things go to the right places without taking out for their efforts. I have heard of some that don't. Check where you live.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 08:07 AM

Our TV stations also have a long list of ways to donate, most with a local connection. Today they are sending tarps to the area.

My local grocery will accept $1 at a time (added to grocery bill) for the Red Cross. (I think it is given to the local chapter, and I know Mary Sue will use the money wisely.) My church has an official hurricane relief organization. Various quilt guilds make baby quilts. My uncle uses a knitting machine to make baby blankets.

I'm thinking of helping with the refugee situation in Houston, more of a longterm effort, specifically with school children. There will be lists of items needed for the children later.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:05 AM

I take back my first statement.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: John Hardly
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:11 AM

Probably doesn't NEED to be mentioned, but I'll point it out anyway -- (as mentioned on the morning news)...

...almost any phone solicitation for donations is most likely very ineffective use of your money. The Red Cross is not doing phone solicitations (they are way too busy for that kind of solicitation) so if you are solicited by phone -- and that someone says the money will go to the Red Cross, you can be sure that it is a third-party solicitor -- and that between 25%-95% of the donation will be going to the solicitor, NOT the relief agency.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:30 AM

Our local food bank is asking for donations...cash or food...which will go to the Gulf Coast for immediate assistance and to replenish food banks there.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: John Hardly
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 09:31 AM

Make room for a few more in hell. I already recieved my first disaster relief spam.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 11:06 AM

All sorts of items can be obtained free from local Freecycle networks.
http://www.freecycle.org/

"Changing the world one gift at a time".


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 11:43 AM

Impeach Bush.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: GUEST,'Nother Guest
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 01:14 PM

You can support your local volunteers who are being dispatched to help in the region, as I saw mentioned locally last night on our news.

I can vouch for this. My nephew and his wife are a paramedic and EMT respectively, and they have answered a national call for trained emergency medical personnel to serve a two week stint at the airport in NO. They are given a leave of absence from their employer (a private ambulance company right now), but we are doing informal private fundraising through our & their family and friends network to financially support them while they are there (so they don't have to use up aid money and resources that can otherwise go to victims, not rescue personnel), with the cost of their trip down and back, and to help defray their bills back home while they are gone.

My daughter has already leaped upon the organizing bandwagon and is helping organize two benefit concerts for October, funds to go to a non-government organization yet to be determined, to help with long term assistance. Catholic Charities does really well with their relief funds, and they do long term disaster relief assistance (after the minor celebrities and network news anchors leave town).

I would wait to donate money right now. Of course, I was badly flamed after providing information during the tsunami disaster that was critical of some American charity sacred cows, like the Red Cross. I don't wish to get into that here again, but for those who are interested in some good information about disaster relief donating, you might want to hunt up those threads, rather than reinventing the wheel.

The reason I say hold off on making donations is this: the majority of aid will be needed to resettle the evacuees, and they are currently spread out all over the southern US. We can't tell yet where the aid will be most needed. Hard as it might be for people to do, I say sit on your money right now. The immediate relief is going to be paid for by donation money and resources that were already in the pipeline and warehouses before the storm hit. It is the long term where the money will be most needed, and no one knows yet where that will need to be sent.

Also, one of my cousins is head of the MN foodshelf network, and I can't tell you how devastating the "big" disasters are on local community needs, be it in Boston or Burundi. If you are making donations through the foodshelf network, please don't stop with just donating to the "big" disaster.

Finally, I can't say strongly enough how much the Red Cross has been a large part of the problem in NO this week, and not the solutions. If you doubt that, have a look NOLA.com (the New Orleans Times Picayune site), which is truly the best source of information on the web on what is happening in New Orleans. There you will find interviews with local emergency officials (including local Red Cross officials) who are thoroughly disgusted with the Red Cross' refusal to come into the city, claiming their workers aren't safe.

So you know, please flood the White House email system with your complaints. Also the email systems of your US senators and congressional reps. Bush's visit actually stopped food deliveries in New Orleans yesterday. I understand "celebrity" and media visits are also having similar effects on the disaster relief efforts.

From NOLA.com:

Bush visit halts food delivery

By Michelle Krupa
Staff writer

Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush's visit to New Orleans, officials said.

The provisions, secured by U.S. Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-Napoleonville, and state Agriculture Commissioner Bob Odom, baked in the afternoon sun as Bush surveyed damage across southeast Louisiana five days after Katrina made landfall as a Category 4 storm, said Melancon's chief of staff, Casey O'Shea.

"We had arrangements to airlift food by helicopter to these folks, and now the food is sitting in trucks because they won't let helicopters fly," O'Shea said Friday afternoon.

The food was expected to be in the hands of storm survivors after the president left the devastated region Friday night, he said.
______________________________

This media spinning shit at all levels by all parties has to stop, because lives are being lost. Time is now the biggest enemy. We are five days out after the storm. Tens of thousands of people have not yet been rescued. People are dying of dehydration, exposure, and suicide.

Email the CNNs, MSNBCs, et al and tell them to get the hell out of the way and use their resources for something that benefits the evacuation and rescue efforts rather than hinders it.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 03:39 PM

From another thread, just to keep the conversation going:

"On my morning run I was reflecting on hurricanes I've known: Hugo in Charleston, Fran and Floyd here. I was so overwhelmed by the help recieved in Charleston: right on time.

So, I'm thinking, now it's our turn to help. Expert rescuers and workers are flocking down there now, well-needed and will be put to work. There is nothing for people like me to do there now but get in the way. But later, later, there will still be plenty of work to be done, and people in terrible need. You may or may not know that it took YEARS to get things in order for people in Eastern NC after the flooding.

What can we do? Many people will find an way to help through their church, school, community somehow. Some can just send money now.

But here's this music community. Hmmmm. Seems like there are some musical debts owed in the region so badly hurt. So what about us?

What if in a couple of months, some of us carpooled or caravanned down and spent a few days working? Gives plenty of time to be in touch with people there to see what can be done, and to organize resources and a project to focus on.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 07:46 PM

I see that Offers of help are coming from all over. For example Castro offers medical aid to U.S. (That's 1100 doctors Castro has said he can send to help - they know about hurricanes in Cuba. They had a bad one last year - Their evacuation procedures were a bit better organised it appears. Death toll was of the order of a dozen people.)
...........................
For individual people I suspect practical aid to the big relief push isn't going to be the thing so much, now that at long last it's getting under way. But in many places in the States I imagine there are likely to be refugees from New Orleans for sometime. I'd think that it would be a good thing to seek out ways to help them as individuals while they are there, and in reestablishing themselves and hopefully being able to go home when that is what they want.

And maybe using the music as a way to build those kinds of connections, and to show that you value what their city and their region has done for you. Here is a link to Cajun.ca, a site dedicated to Cajun and Zydeco, which has given over its homepage to trying to help out. (Lots of good music stuff there too, and links.)


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: LadyJean
Date: 03 Sep 05 - 10:55 PM

The Reverend Peter Atkins Park a recent veteran of Camp Casey, is looking for baby supplies, formula, diapers, lotion, etc. Batteries, flashlights, canned foods and bottled water. He says send supplies. Money is no good. The address is 124 E. 14th St. Covington, LA 70433.

If you go to www.partylauch.com/hurricanehelp, you'll learn how to have a houseparty for hurricane victims.

Acorn is organizing to support hurricane victims too.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: GUEST,J
Date: 04 Sep 05 - 08:31 PM

Our church here in Franklin, Tn. has been able to procure standard 40 ft. trailers. 2 so far and commitment for a constant stream as long as they're needed. The speaker today just happened to have his house designated as a distribution point as the National Guard told him they were swamped(No pun intended). He's from Biloxi, Ms. We went to Sam's Club and the place was jammed. There was a sign up at the church for people to volunteer and list their skills and phone #. My girlfriend signed up as she's a PT with nursing training. We took our purchases directly to where the trailers were being loaded. I physically helped in unloading our truck so we KNOW where the money went. Google search Grace Chapel, Franklin, Tn. if you wish to donate to this particular relief effort. The two trailers were leaving today and there will be busloads of people going down for weeks/months depending on their level of time available. Wherever you are for sure there is something similar going on if you're moved to help. I'm speaking with my employer tomorrow about the option of taking time off to go. Anything we can contribute in terms of time, money or materials from wherever we may be is needed.


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Subject: RE: Hurricane Relief: How can I help?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:09 PM

This request came in from the AMIGOS group, located in Dallas, Texas. They are the mouthpiece for a consortium of university libraries and they are primarily involved in getting access to databases, etc. It was forwarded to employees in the UTA Libraries. Maybe some Mudcatter out there has an extra computer that fits the specs to send along, or you know someone who can nudge CompUSA or another retailers to donate:




LOUISIANA STATE LIBRARY ISSUES URGENT CALL FOR COMPUTERS, PRINTERS
The State library of Louisiana has sent out this call for computer equipment. If you are interested and able to send computers, here is the request from the Louisiana State Librarian, Rebecca Hamilton.

"To all-we are in desperate need of computers/printers. We are being inundated with evacuees needing to file FEMA applications, unemployment, search for loved ones, etc. and are coming into our public libraries to use the computers. Our libraries have greatly extended their hours to accommodate the people but they need additional computers and printers. If you can please put the word out that if anyone wants to help immediately, this is our greatest need."

Equipment Specs:
* Pentium 3
* Windows 2000, prefer XP
* Laser printers if you can still get toner for them

Send equipment to:
State Library of Louisiana
701 North 4th Street
Baton Rouge, La. 70802-5232

If you are able to assist them, please let Rebecca know via email at rhamilton@crt.state.la.us to help her know what to expect.


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