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Subject: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 01:42 PM

Whoa nelly!

A friend of mine just sent me this link to Rush Limbaugh's diatribe on the state of affairs in New Orleans.

Now, I never read/watch/listen to those dumb ass pundits like Rush. But I was curious to see how they are spinning the crash and burn of their beloved Bush administration in the wake of the disaster.

Leaves me speechless.

I wish the United States media conglomerates would fire all the pundits and hire investigative journalists. Imagine what our world might look like then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 02:00 PM

But thank god, there are some humane and decent conservatives speaking out. I saw David Brooks say the very same thing on the News Hour with Jim Lehrer on Friday night, as this BBC article quotes him as having written in his Sunday NYT column. I actually choked up when I heard Brooks say this on Friday night:

"The most artful supporter of the administration on the staff of the New York Times, columnist David Brooks, has also had enough.

He and others are calling the debacle the "anti 9-11": "The first rule of the social fabric - that in times of crisis you protect the vulnerable - was trampled," he wrote on Sunday.

"Leaving the poor in New Orleans was the moral equivalent of leaving the injured on the battlefield."


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 02:04 PM

Sorry, meant to provide the link to the excellent BBC article (it is actually about the US media trying to regrow a spine in the wake of Katrinagate):

Viewpoint: Has Katrina saved US media?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Azizi
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 02:14 PM

Thanks Guest for those links.

I echo the comments of Joey Erwin, New Orleans, La, who was
one of those who responded to the last column and wrote:

"...It's time we take back American politics and demand change. I grieve for the loss of life in New Orleans and the rest of the Gulf Coast, I grieve for the city that will never be the same. But, I challenge those who are ready to move on to the next big story to please not let this one go. We were rejected on a federal level and people died, homes were lost and sickness will ensue. "

-snip-

I also noted a reference to a Katrina Commission. Has the Congress actually declared that there will be such a commission?

There sure as heck needs to be one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Lighter
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 02:25 PM

Rep. Livingston of (R.-La.) angrily blames "liberals and environmentalists" for the disaster. Can anyone guess why ?

IIIIIIIIIIII'm sorry ! Time's up !

It's 'cause liberals and environmentalists have "opposed the Army Corps of Engineers for years," and wanted to cut its budget (he didn't say for what). Also, "They want to turn the whole area into an alluvial plain and bring in Indians and have buffalo running around !"

That sounds super to me, if a little impractical. Remember how the Rev. Jerry Falwell fingered liberals, hedonists, gays, and lesbians as the real perpetrators of 9/11 ?

Source: my own eyes and ears tuned to one of the cable news networks last night. Livingston really said this stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 02:48 PM

I've noticed that The Revs Falwell, Robertson, et al. have been remarkably quiet.
I thought for sure they would have been fulminating about the "degenerate Sodom that was New Orleans" bringing this disaster on itself.
Maybe their advisers got to them before they ran off at the mouth...

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 03:03 PM

Seamus,

Could it be because Louisiana is a "red" state? Robertson said God punished New York on 9/11. His main political premise is that we should vote Republican to escape "God's Wrath". He couldn't exactly say that Charlie, Ivan, Dennis and Katrina were sent to Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana to punish the 40% of their combined populations that voted for Kerry.

Besides, the Hedonistic, "sinfull" part of N.O., the French ("Freedom") Quarter was relatively unaffected.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 03:06 PM

The reason they are so quiet is because their religious organizations stand to fill their coffers with donations from the public, and funds from FEMA for providing "faith based" disaster relief.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:54 AM

JtS and Guest-
No! G'wan outta that! It can't be....

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Peace
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:59 AM

SSDD from Washington.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 02:29 AM

The bozos have to blame someone! Bush smiles and chuckles. Man! is HE out of it!! I don't know whether to think of Shakespeare (smile and smile and be a villian) or Chuckles the Clown.

gag!!

CB


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,Shanghaiceltic
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 03:29 AM

He who laughs last........








Has found someone to blame!


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Mickey191
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:14 PM

Someone sent me the following - statements from our former first "Lady" Barbara Bush. I'm sickened by Limbaugh & the Bush Family arrogance. She said:They were "underprivileged anyway!" So I guess they're HAPPY the storm came cause now they are better off!
__________________________
Former first lady Barbara Bush told a radio interviewer Monday night that many of the people she met with at Houston's Astrodome were____ "underprivileged anyway"____ and their newfound shelter "is working very well for them." "Almost everyone I've talked to says we're going to move to Houston," Bush told American Public Radio's "Marketplace" after touring the obsolete sports
arena, where 17,500 residents from the New Orleans area are being housed.

"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway -- this, this is working very well for them.

Witch!


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Peace
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:16 PM

Every time I hear his (Limbaugh's) name I think of cheese that smells like really old socks. Don't know why.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Sidewalk Bob
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:39 PM

Hey, I din't want to sign in at Rush's joint, especially since kinda meetin him at a truch stop in Mississipppi a couple days ago... We was in the men's room and he was sittin' right next to me with jus' think meatl screen wall between his toilet an' mine and this is how the conversation went:

Rush: Howdy, neighbor. Did ya' hear about them folks lootin' down in New Orleans?

Bobert: Yeah.

Rush: Yeah, them folks ain't much more than savages... Did ya hear that they had stolen a bunch of M-16's and we shooting at doctors??

Bobert: Yeah.

Rush: And now them liberal Democarts are trying to blame the President for not doing enough. Hey, ther Preasident was doing everything in his power but it was that mayor of New Orleans who I underestand was the problem. Did ya' hear that?

Bobert: Yeah.

Rush: And what makes folks think that the governemnt is responsible to help anyone anyway. I believe in personal responsibility. By the way, neigbor, seems like the tiolet paper has run out in this toilet, Can ya pass me some under the divider, friend?

Bobert: Sorry, maybe you should have checked it out before hand. You know... personal responsibilitry... Have a nice day...

Sidewalk Bob(ert)


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:39 PM

Limbaugh is a heartless lying bastard. He is a Bush sycophant who cannot admit the slightest mistake by Bush, the GOP, or himself. Hannity is the same, but now even his reporters in the field are standing up to his relentless poison spinning. If you haven't seen Shep Smith and Geraldo Rivera furiously and emotionally calling him (Hannity) on it, on live television, the video is here. You've got to see it. One listen, and you can tell in your heart who is speaking truth.

http://bloglines.com/citations?d=1&url=http:%2F%2Fmovies.crooksandliars.com%2FHannity-Colmes-Smith-Rivera-freak-in-NO.wmv


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:42 PM

Sorry, that was me at 9:39

Tim


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 11:24 PM

Here's a link to the prez's mother's quote mentioned above....his mother


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: michaelr
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 12:22 AM

LOL Bobert!

As someone said, Rush Limburger is a big fat idiot.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 02:21 AM

Seamus, Robertson's been too busy calling for the assassination of Chavez in Venezuela!

Thanks for the links to the bitch quote etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:12 AM

Katdarlin', whose head is he gonna call for this time?
Especially since Chavez offered us petroleum?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: TIA
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:42 AM

And this morning, the Bush mouthpiece (Fox News) is relentlessly pounding the "the governor didn't ask for help"/"the governor refused to let us help" canard that has long since been disproven by pre-landfall documents. And people believe this crap?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:03 AM

According to mainstream media (ie the network news last night) the public is NOT buying it.

It doesn't matter what the bureaucratic rules are to most people in this circumstance. Everyone believes those rules should not have stood in the way of the immediate rescue of people, first off, and secondly of the food and water drops, which everyone knows could have been done the first day by helicopter, to the most crowded locations.

People just aren't believing the Bush machine spin this time. Which is good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:35 AM

People just aren't believing the Bush machine spin this time.

Oh, yes they are- and not only are they believing it, they're embracing it.

Maybe a few less folks are completely clueless in the face of Bush's latest cock-up & the BuShite whitewash, but the U.S. is still in Iraq "Defending Freedon"[sic], they still believe there was some connection between Iraq & the Twin Towers attack, they still think 'No Child's Left Behind' and the "Patriot Act" wonderful pieces of legislation, that there's a "Social Security Crisis", that the U.S. is fighting-and winning- the "War On Terror" that there's no such thing as global warming, etc. etc. etc.

Your optimism in the face of the massive brain death of the U.S. electorate is a bit premature.

Problem with the Bushites is they just hate truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:56 AM

No, they aren't. Even his most ardent supporters have said he blew it & it will cost him.

Now, does that mean they have abandoned Bush? No. They never will. Among all Republican voters, he still has 87% support in the popularity polls. But those polls don't measure the deeper chasm that has opened up beneath him this week.

There are three bottom lines here the administration won't be able to spin their way out of: 1) a whole lot of Louisiana's National Guard were in Iraq when this disaster occurred; 2) he was on vacation and giving speeches on Iraq, while New Orleans drowned and Mississippi was wiped out (and Barbara Bush's comments won't help that perception), and; 3) this was the first national test of our nation's post-9/11 emergency and disaster preparedness systems.

Republican ideologues wouldn't even be swayed by Dubya ax-murdering Laura and White House hired help staff. They will support Bush no matter what. Just like the Democrats, who now give Bush a post-Katrina 13% approval rating, will not change their views about him.

Question is, how will these federal issues trickle down to the state and local elections of 2006?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: An Englishman Abroad
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:58 AM

I received the below from a friend. The Rivera clip seems to prove this. sorry about the length of the below article bit I did not know how to do it any other way.

Two friends of mine-SEIU 790 paramedics attending a conference-were trapped
in New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina. This is their eyewitness report. --PG

Hurricane Katrina-Our Experiences


Hurricane Katrina-Our Experiences

Larry Bradshaw, Lorrie Beth Slonsky

Two days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, the Walgreen's
store at the corner of Royal and Iberville streets remained locked. The
dairy display case was clearly visible through the widows. It was now 48
hours without electricity, running water, plumbing. The milk, yogurt,
and cheeses were beginning to spoil in the 90-degree heat. The owners
and managers had locked up the food, water, pampers, and prescriptions
and fled the City. Outside Walgreen's windows, residents and tourists
grew increasingly thirsty and hungry.

The much-promised federal, state and local aid never materialized and
the windows at Walgreen's gave way to the looters. There was an
alternative. The cops could have broken one small window and distributed
the nuts, fruit juices, and bottle water in an organized and systematic
manner. But they did not. Instead they spent hours playing cat and
mouse, temporarily chasing away the looters.

We were finally airlifted out of New Orleans two days ago and arrived
home yesterday (Saturday). We have yet to see any of the TV coverage or
look at a newspaper. We are willing to guess that there were no video
images or front-page pictures of European or affluent white tourists
looting the Walgreen's in the French Quarter.

We also suspect the media will have been inundated with "hero" images of
the National Guard, the troops and the police struggling to help the
"victims" of the Hurricane. What you will not see, but what we
witnessed,were the real heroes and sheroes of the hurricane relief
effort: the working class of New Orleans. The maintenance workers who
used a fork lift to carry the sick and disabled. The engineers, who
rigged, nurtured and kept the generators running. The electricians who
improvised thick extension cords stretching over blocks to share the
little electricity we had in order to free cars stuck on rooftop parking
lots. Nurses who took over for mechanical ventilators and spent many
hours on end manually forcing air into the lungs of unconscious patients
to keep them alive. Doormen who rescued folks stuck in elevators.
Refinery workers who broke into boat yards, "stealing" boats to rescue
their neighbors clinging to their roofs in flood waters. Mechanics who
helped hot-wire any car that could be found to ferry people out of the
City. And the food service workers who scoured the commercial kitchens
improvising communal meals for hundreds of those stranded.

Most of these workers had lost their homes, and had not heard from
members of their families, yet they stayed and provided the only
infrastructure for the 20% of New Orleans that was not under water.

On Day 2, there were approximately 500 of us left in the hotels in the
French Quarter. We were a mix of foreign tourists, conference attendees
like ourselves, and locals who had checked into hotels for safety and
shelter from Katrina. Some of us had cell phone contact with family and
friends outside of New Orleans. We were repeatedly told that all sorts
of resources including the National Guard and scores of buses were
pouring in to the City. The buses and the other resources must have been
invisible because none of us had seen them.

We decided we had to save ourselves. So we pooled our money and came up
with $25,000 to have ten buses come and take us out of the City. Those
who did not have the requisite $45.00 for a ticket were subsidized by
those who did have extra money. We waited for 48 hours for the buses,
spending the last 12 hours standing outside, sharing the limited water,
food, and clothes we had. We created a priority boarding area for the
sick, elderly and new born babies. We waited late into the night for the
"imminent" arrival of the buses. The buses never arrived. We later
learned that the minute the arrived to the City limits, they were
commandeered by the military.

By day 4 our hotels had run out of fuel and water. Sanitation was
dangerously abysmal. As the desperation and despair increased, street
crime as well as water levels began to rise. The hotels turned us out
and locked their doors, telling us that the "officials" told us to
report to the convention center to wait for more buses. As we entered
the center of the City, we finally encountered the National Guard. The
Guards told us we would not be allowed into the Superdome as the City's
primary shelter had descended into a humanitarian and health hellhole.
The guards further told us that the City's only other shelter, the
Convention Center, was also descending into chaos and squalor and that
the police were not allowing anyone else in. Quite naturally, we asked,
"If we can't go to the only 2 shelters in the City, what was our
alternative?" The guards told us that that was our problem, and no they
did not have extra water to give to us. This would be the start of our
numerous encounters with callous and hostile "law enforcement".

We walked to the police command center at Harrah's on Canal Street and
were told the same thing, that we were on our own, and no they did not
have water to give us. We now numbered several hundred. We held a mass
meeting to decide a course of action. We agreed to camp outside the
police command post. We would be plainly visible to the media and would
constitute a highly visible embarrassment to the City officials. The
police told us that we could not stay. Regardless, we began to settle in
and set up camp. In short order, the police commander came across the
street to address our group. He told us he had a solution: we should
walk to the Pontchartrain Expressway and cross the greater New Orleans
Bridge where the police had buses lined up to take us out of the City.
The crowed cheered and began to move. We called everyone back and
explained to the commander that there had been lots of misinformation
and wrong information and was he sure that there were buses waiting for
us. The commander turned to the crowd and stated emphatically, "I swear
to you that the buses are there."

We organized ourselves and the 200 of us set off for the bridge with
great excitement and hope. As we marched pasted the convention center,
many locals saw our determined and optimistic group and asked where we
were headed. We told them about the great news. Families immediately
grabbed their few belongings and quickly our numbers doubled and then
doubled again. Babies in strollers now joined us, people using crutches,
elderly clasping walkers and others people in wheelchairs. We marched
the 2-3 miles to the freeway and up the steep incline to the Bridge. It
now began to pour down rain, but it did not dampen our enthusiasm.

As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across
the foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began
firing their weapons over our heads. This sent the crowd fleeing in
various directions. As the crowd scattered and dissipated, a few of us
inched forward and managed to engage some of the sheriffs in
conversation. We told them of our conversation with the police commander
and of the commander's assurances. The sheriffs informed us there were
no buses waiting. The commander had lied to us to get us to move.

We questioned why we couldn't cross the bridge anyway, especially as
there was little traffic on the 6-lane highway. They responded that the
West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no
Superdomes in their City. These were code words for if you are poor and
black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River and you were not
getting out of New Orleans.

Our small group retreated back down Highway 90 to seek shelter from the
rain under an overpass. We debated our options and in the end decided to
build an encampment in the middle of the Ponchartrain Expressway on the
center divide, between the O'Keefe and Tchoupitoulas exits. We reasoned
we would be visible to everyone, we would have some security being on an
elevated freeway and we could wait and watch for the arrival of the yet
to be seen buses.

All day long, we saw other families, individuals and groups make the
same trip up the incline in an attempt to cross the bridge, only to be
turned away. Some chased away with gunfire, others simply told no,
others to be verbally berated and humiliated. Thousands of New Orleaners
were prevented and prohibited from self-evacuating the City on foot.
Meanwhile, the only two City shelters sank further into squalor and
disrepair. The only way across the bridge was by vehicle. We saw workers
stealing trucks, buses, moving vans, semi-trucks and any car that could
be hotwired. All were packed with people trying to escape the misery New
Orleans had become.

Our little encampment began to blossom. Someone stole a water delivery
truck and brought it up to us. Let's hear it for looting! A mile or so
down the freeway, an army truck lost a couple of pallets of C-rations on
a tight turn. We ferried the food back to our camp in shopping carts.
Now secure with the two necessities, food and water; cooperation,
community, and creativity flowered. We organized a clean up and hung
garbage bags from the rebar poles. We made beds from wood pallets and
cardboard. We designated a storm drain as the bathroom and the kids
built an elaborate enclosure for privacy out of plastic, broken
umbrellas, and other scraps. We even organized a food recycling system
where individuals could swap out parts of C-rations (applesauce for
babies and candies for kids!).

This was a process we saw repeatedly in the aftermath of Katrina. When
individuals had to fight to find food or water, it meant looking out for
yourself only. You had to do whatever it took to find water for your
kids or food for your parents. When these basic needs were met, people
began to look out for each other, working together and constructing a
community.

If the relief organizations had saturated the City with food and water
in the first 2 or 3 days, the desperation, the frustration and the
ugliness would not have set in.

Flush with the necessities, we offered food and water to passing
families and individuals. Many decided to stay and join us. Our
encampment grew to 80 or 90 people.

From a woman with a battery powered radio we learned that the media was
talking about us. Up in full view on the freeway, every relief and news
organizations saw us on their way into the City. Officials were being
asked what they were going to do about all those families living up on
the freeway? The officials responded they were going to take care of us.
Some of us got a sinking feeling. "Taking care of us" had an ominous
tone to it.

Unfortunately, our sinking feeling (along with the sinking City) was
correct. Just as dusk set in, a Gretna Sheriff showed up, jumped out of
his patrol vehicle, aimed his gun at our faces, screaming, "Get off the
fucking freeway". A helicopter arrived and used the wind from its blades
to blow away our flimsy structures. As we retreated, the sheriff loaded
up his truck with our food and water.

Once again, at gunpoint, we were forced off the freeway. All the law
enforcement agencies appeared threatened when we congregated or
congealed into groups of 20 or more. In every congregation of "victims"
they saw "mob" or "riot". We felt safety in numbers. Our "we must stay
together" was impossible because the agencies would force us into small
atomized groups.

In the pandemonium of having our camp raided and destroyed, we scattered
once again. Reduced to a small group of 8 people, in the dark, we sought
refuge in an abandoned school bus, under the freeway on Cilo Street. We
were hiding from possible criminal elements but equally and definitely,
we were hiding from the police and sheriffs with their martial law,
curfew and shoot-to-kill policies.

The next days, our group of 8 walked most of the day, made contact with
New Orleans Fire Department and were eventually airlifted out by an
urban search and rescue team. We were dropped off near the airport and
managed to catch a ride with the National Guard. The two young guardsmen
apologized for the limited response of the Louisiana guards. They
explained that a large section of their unit was in Iraq and that meant
they were shorthanded and were unable to complete all the tasks they
were assigned.

We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The
airport had become another Superdome. We 8 were caught in a press of
humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush
landed briefly at the airport for a photo op. After being evacuated on a
coast guard cargo plane, we arrived in San Antonio, Texas.

There the humiliation and dehumanization of the official relief effort
continued. We were placed on buses and driven to a large field where we
were forced to sit for hours and hours. Some of the buses did not have
air-conditioners. In the dark, hundreds if us were forced to share two
filthy overflowing porta-potties. Those who managed to make it out with
any possessions (often a few belongings in tattered plastic bags) we
were subjected to two different dog-sniffing searches.

Most of us had not eaten all day because our C-rations had been
confiscated at the airport because the rations set off the metal
detectors. Yet, no food had been provided to the men, women, children,
elderly, disabled as they sat for hours waiting to be "medically
screened" to make sure we were not carrying any communicable diseases.

This official treatment was in sharp contrast to the warm, heart-felt
reception given to us by the ordinary Texans. We saw one airline worker
give her shoes to someone who was barefoot. Strangers on the street
offered us money and toiletries with words of welcome. Throughout, the
official relief effort was callous, inept, and racist. There was more
suffering than need be. Lives were lost that did not need to be lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: An Englishman Abroad
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:04 AM

I keep hearing people saying that the State and city did not ask for help and the Feds could not help untill they did.

Anyone know where I can go to find out if they did ask for help.

all the best John


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:08 AM

Personally, I don't really care whether they did or not. This was not a time for following Article 345, section V, subsection (ii) - it was a time for helping people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:14 AM

John, wait a week or two. At this time, no one has a clue as to what really transpired. And no, that time won't be used in making excuses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:35 AM

Mudcatters are so filled with hate for Bush, Rush, and republicans in general that it gets in their way of clear rational thinking.   Like the media, they write the story first, and then try to find (or make up) the facts to support their conclusion.

1. The national guard was in Iraq- FACT- 22% of the Louisiana national guard was in Iraq.   785 was in the State.

FACT- the resonal the guard was delayed was because DEMOCRATIC governor Blanco wouldn't order them in the city in advance of the hurricane.   She didn't want a "white" national guard pressense in an "african" american city. After the flooding they weren't able to get in causing delays when they could have been right in the city. Thousands died as a result of this poor decision by Blanco.

2. Envrionmentalists are the problem- FACT- the decision to make the levy's only category 3 protection was made in the 1960's and approved by every president since then. Even Harry Reid inspected the Levy's and declared them sound.

3. Global warming is causing the hurricanes- FACT in the 1930's, 40's, and 50's we averaged 9 category 4/5 hurricanses a decade.   Since then we have only averaged 4-6 category 4 or 5 hurricanes per decace.   Global warming or Kyoto has nothing to do with it.

4. This is racial- FACT- a majority of help is white.   Hundreds of millions of dollars have been given by white people for New Orleans. It is shameful the racist exploitation by the race hucksters Jackson and Sharpton and Oprah.

Rush has 20 million listeners and has been # 1 in the ratings for over 10 years.   He was even #1 when he had no hearing.    Clearly Mudcatters know better what makes good radio.   Perhaps they can consult for Air America.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:41 AM

Rush has 20 million listeners and has been # 1 in the ratings for over 10 years.   He was even #1 when he had no hearing.    Clearly Mudcatters know better what makes good radio.
This is about what makes good radio?


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: An Englishman Abroad
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 10:54 AM

Larry you are as entrenched in what you beleive as the rest of us. You are no different. Just remember this

1   Its the political right that has the reputation for Racisim

2   Its the right who could not care less about the poor. Thats what being a Conservative means. You conserve what you have so that others will not get it.

3   Its the right who are in charge at the moment they take the blame.

4   The right has an aversion to admitting when they are wrong. Whatever the outcome of any enquiry I will bet a anything they will hold back information as they have done since Bush came into office. Including 9/11.

I have to admit that when I saw the article saying it was Bush pulling out of Kyoto was the cause of the trouble I thought what an idiot.

all the best John


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: M.Ted
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 12:37 PM

More lies from LarryK--none of it is true, Larry, none of it. Wake up--you're being used--at least they give Rush money to crank out the crap--


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,G
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 12:50 PM

Just one comment on the last several posts;

Englishman Abroad - "The political right has the reputation for racism"

please review our history, the Civil Rights Act of 1965 was passed due only to the efforts and votes of the "political right".

Well, maybe one more - Bush couldn't "pull out of Kyoto".

The US Senate never ratified it when WJC was in office. It is a moot
point.

Don't take my word(s) for it. Please check for yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 01:18 PM

I notice that the reasons for blaming Blanco change every day as new facts are uncovered that prove false the accusations of the previous day. The fact is that Bush and people like Larry K are trying to make Blanco a scapegoat for policies at the federal level that have failed. Proof of this is the fact that the people in Mississippi who were affected by this storm are just as upset with FEMA as the ones in Louisiana. You can't blame what happened in Mississippi on the governor of Louisiana.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: An Englishman Abroad
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 01:49 PM

G

I stand by what I said The political right has a reputation for racism.

Its a fact.

all the best John


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Peace
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 02:49 PM

Englishman Abroad--

Louisiana's governor requested Federal aid on August 27, 2005.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:32 PM

More stuff you can't blame on the governor of Louisiana...


NATIONAL GUARD AND COAST GUARD UNDERFUNDED AND OVERSTRETCHED

LOUISIANA GUARD WARNED OF EQUIPMENT SHORTAGES BEFORE KATRINA

Louisiana National Guard Said Before Katrina That It Needed Equipment Back From Iraq If It Is To Respond To A Natural Disaster. �The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission,� said Lt. Colonel Pete Schneider with the LA National Guard. �You've got combatant commanders over there who need it they say they need it, they don't want to lose what they h ave, and we certainly understand that it's a matter of us educating that combatant commander, we need it back here as well,� Col. Schneider said. [ABC 26 WGNO, 8/1/05]

NATIONAL GUARD STRETCHED THIN, UNABLE TO FULFILL DUTIES AT HOME

Iraq Has Left National Guard Units At Home Short Of Equipment. Already suffering from manpower shortages, the National Guard�s overstretched forces are being confronted with another problem: not enough equipment to supply Guard troops at home. �To fully equip troops in Iraq, the Pentagon has stripped local Guard units of about 24,000 pieces of equipment. That has left Guard units at home, already seriously short of gear<.� [Detroit Free Press, 6/13/05]

Gen. McCaffrey Said We Could Permanently Damage The Guard And Reserve. Gen. McCaffrey warned against overstretching Guard and Reserve. �[W]e're going to damage fatally the National Guard if we try and continue using Reserve components at this rate. Forty percent of that force in Iraq right now is Reserve component. We have shot the bull. We've got to back off and build an Army and Marine Corps capable of sustaining these operations.� [Meet the Press, 8/28/05]

Governors Say Long Deployments Leaving Their States Vulnerable. �[S]tate officials think continued deployments will have an effect on people who sign up for or remain in the Minnesota National Guard. At a National Governor's Association meeting�some governors criticized the burden of repeated deployment, saying that the troops' absence leaves their states unprotected against things like natural disasters. Officials in Idaho and Montana have said they are unprepared if forest fires hit their states this summer.� [AP, 8/10/05]


And problems for the Coast Guard...


COAST GUARD�S RESPONSIBILITIES INCREASING WITHOUT ADEQUATE FUNDS

Coast Guard Gave Congress List of $919 Million in Unfunded Priorities. The Coast Guard has given Congress a $919 million wish list of programs and hardware not funded in the Bush Administration's fiscal 2006 budget request. For the first time, the Coast Guard has sent Congressional representatives an unfunded priorities list - a tally of needed items not included in the fiscal 2006 request. The list includes an additional $637 million for the service's Deepwater recapitalization program; $11.6 million for helicopter repairs; $4 million to increase aviation maritime patrol hours, and $59 million to renovate shore stations. [Journal of Commerce Online, 5/11/05]

Coast Guard Faced With Helicopter Problems. The head of the US Coast Guard told Congress his equipment is failing at unacceptable rates. Despite increases in spending on maintenance, the agency's older large craft -- called cutters -- experience equipment failures capable of ruining a mission almost 50 percent of the time, according to Coast Guard officials. Further, the agency's HH-65 helicopters suffered a rate of 329 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours in 2004, way over the Federal Aviation Administration's acceptable standard of 1 mishap per 100,000 hours. [UPI, 6/10/05; USA Today, 7/6/05]

Commandant Says Coast Guard Short On Resources. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thomas H. Collins said, �Do we have more business than we have resources? Yes.� The Coast Guard has put the cost of implementing safety regulations laid out by Congress at $7.3 billion over the next ten years. The Bush administration only asked for $46 million for aid to the ports in the 2005 budget. [Budget of the United States, www.omb.gov; House Approps Cmte Transcript, 3/31/04; Washington Post, 4/2/03; Boston Globe, 6/30/04]

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/08/katrina_proves.php


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:41 PM

1. I just read that Rush is doing a broadway show next week to benefit Katrina victims.   They are shutting down "lion king" which rush said will upset animal rights fans.   Tickets are $77 each.   I would urge mudcatters to attend (they might learn something) but I suspect that most cannot afford the $77 ticket.

2.   Mr. Ted- what part of FACT don't you understand?   If you have evidence that what I said was incorrect than bring it to the table. Otherwise, you make yourself look foolish.   (hint- the hurricane data is from the national hurricane center website.   You may want to check it out yourself before calling me a liar about that)

3. You have to do something "right" to get 20 million listeners.   Just ask Mario Como, Jim Hightower, Air America or any other failed liberal radio show.   According to talker magazine the number 1,2,3, 6, 8, 9,and 11 talk shows are conservatives.   The highest rated liberal is Tom Leykis at 24 but even he calls his show "guy talk"

4. The right has a reputation for racism- Key work is reputation. That is propagated by the media and race hustlers for political gain.   As more Aftican Americans move to the middle class, the less they stay in the democratic party.   The only ku klux klam grand master in the senate is a democrat.

5. The republicans were in charge- The Mayor was a democrat.   The governor was a democrat.   Senator Landrueax id a democrats.   If there was a republican in charge there would be thousands less dead in New Orleans. (IMHO)

6. FACT- Kyoto was first turned down in 1988 by Bill Clinton. SHAZAM. Another myth broken. (to be taken seriously outside the mudcat forum you can't just sprout brain dead partisan propaganda although that does work well in Mudcat)

7. Republicans don't care about pour people-   I heard an african american on Bill Bennett this morning who stated it more eloquently than anyone else I heard.   Black people believe governement is required to take care of them and they wait for that to happen.   That is why they stayed in New Orleans and waited for government to take care of them.   According to the caller who has relatives in New Orleans- "anyone with an sat score over 1,000 got out of there" His relatives were in Houston by Saturday.   Republicans beleieve to get goverment out of the way and let people have the freedom to take care of themselves.   I believe that is far more passionate that keeping them on welfare for the rest of their lives.

Rush is doing a benefit that will raise millions for Katrina Victims. George Steinbrenner was the first baseball owner that gave 1 million.   I would suspect that the majority of the 500 million that was donated by americans were from red states.   The top 25 states in the country for charity per capita were ALL RED STATES.   Liberals talk compassion, but don't walk the walk. In charity given, they give the least.   (yes there are exeptions- I'm talking macro) To say that republicans don't care about poor people is just more left rhetoic and the reason you can't win an election.

All the best as well.   

PS-   lets be rational on both sides.   I have been on record strongly criticizing bush for border security, spending, and many other issues.   I also stated in a thread that he was 24 hours late and there was no excuse for that. To ignore the failures of the mayor and governor loses credibility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:55 PM

Republicans and Democrats both criticizing the federal government for the disasterous consequences resulting from the Bush administration's gutting of FEMA...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/krwashbureau/20050903/ts_krwashbureau/_wea_katrina_unprepared


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 11:12 PM

"Under the law, Chertoff said, state and local officials must direct initial emergency operations. 'The federal government comes in and supports those officials,' he said.

Chertoff's remarks, which echoed earlier statements by President Bush, prompted withering rebukes both from former senior FEMA staffers and outside experts.

'They can't do that,' former agency chief of staff Jane Bullock said of Bush administration efforts to shift responsibility away from Washington. 'The moment the president declared a federal disaster, it became a federal responsibility…. The federal government took ownership over the response,' she said. Bush declared a disaster in Louisiana and Mississippi when the storm hit a week ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fema5sep05,0,2650635,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,Ron Davies
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 11:43 PM

Larry--

Again, I have no time--- (you'll be crushed to learn)--, so I can now only address one of your gems from Rush. It would be refreshing if you would for once put your brain in gear before regurgitating "Rush-isms." I'm truly sorry if doing so would violate the creed of the Bush apologist- (I wouldn't want to injure your ego by labelling you a "Bushite".

At any rate, environmentalists are the villains of the piece in the Katarina disaster, eh? Certainly an imaginative idea, congratulations.

However, according to the Wall St Journal ---(very sorry it's not the Daily Kos or a letter from Michael Moore, to confirm one of your other smears)--, in fact the wetlands near New Orleans will have to be restored, as part of future flood defense. And who has been pushing for this for years, if not decades? Why it's those villainous environmentalists.

Sleep well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:48 AM

5. The republicans were in charge- The Mayor was a democrat.   The governor was a democrat.   Senator Landrueax id a democrats.   If there was a republican in charge there would be thousands less dead in New Orleans. (IMHO)

Of course more people would have lived if Republicans were in charge in N.O. and Louisiana. Bush wouldn't have waited five days to send the help that was requested on August 26.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 10:18 AM

Ron- as of this morning- the team of dumb and dumber (Nagin and Blanco) still can't agree on the evacuations.   Nagin wants a mandatory evacuation, Blanco refuses.    They give the 3 stooges a bad name. And yes- if you read the Wall Street Journal editorial today you will find a piece describing the idiocy and downright incompetence of Blanco and Nagin.

Meanwhile, we pump the toxic water into Lake Poncetrain.   Doesn't that concern anybody else?   it concerns me.   I guess they don't have a choice.

There are many people to blame (both republicans and democrats) for the levee situation which was made in the 1960's and approved by every president, and elected official since.   Harry Reid recently toured the levee's and pronounced them fine. (before the hurricane) Environmentalists were only one small part of the levee's not being improved- a small part but a part.

You don't insult me by calling me a Bushite.   I have no problem with that just as I believe you should have no problem with me calling you an Ossamaite.   You should be as proud of your leader as I am of mine.

Jack- Hopefully you can open your mind and look at the facts.   The evacuation plan for the city was not followed by Nagin.   No public transportation was used for poor people (white and black) Blanco refused to turn over the national guard to the feds or bring in the national guard before the huricane.   This decision was responisble for thousands of deaths.   Bush was 24 hours late- no excuse for that either. He listened to Chernoff who was clueless.   One of Bush's faults is loyalty to his people.   To put the blame only on Bush is completely ignorant and irresponsible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: An Englishman Abroad
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 10:31 AM

How is this for a time line.

Friday, Aug. 26: Gov. Kathleen Blanco declares a state of emergency in Louisiana and requests troop assistance.


Saturday, Aug. 27: Gov. Blanco asks for federal state of emergency. A federal emergency is declared giving federal officials the authority to get involved.


Sunday, Aug. 28: Mayor Ray Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. President Bush warned of Levee failure by National Hurricane Center. National Weather Service predicts area will be "uninhabitable" after Hurricane arrives. First reports of water toppling over the levee appear in local paper.

Monday, Aug. 29: Levee breaches and New Orleans begins to fill with water, Bush travels to Arizona and California to discuss Medicare. FEMA chief finally responds to federal emergency, dispatching employees but giving them two days to arrive on site.


Tuesday, Aug. 30: Mass looting reported, security shortage cited in New Orleans. Pentagon says that local authorities have adequate National Guard units to handle hurricane needs despite governor's earlier request. Bush returns to Crawford for final day of vacation. TV coverage is around-the-clock Hurricane news.

Wednesday, Aug. 31: Tens of thousands trapped in New Orleans including at Convention Center and Superdome in "medieval" conditions. President Bush finally returns to Washington to establish a task force to coordinate federal response. Local authorities run out of food and water supplies.

Thursday, Sept. 1: New Orleans descends into anarchy. New Orleans Mayor issues a "Desperate SOS" to federal government. Bush claims nobody predicted the breach of the levees despite multiple warnings and his earlier briefing.

Friday, Sept. 2: Karl Rove begins Bush administration campaign to blame state and local officials—despite their repeated requests for help. Bush stages a photo-op—diverting Coast Guard helicopters and crew to act as backdrop for cameras. Levee repair work orchestrated for president's visit and White House press corps.

Saturday, Sept. 3: Bush blames state and local officials. Senior administration official (possibly Rove) caught in a lie claiming Gov. Blanco had not declared a state of emergency or asked for help.

Monday, Sept. 5: New Orleans officials begin to collect their dead.

All the best    John


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: M.Ted
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:20 PM

My point, LarryK, is simple--you have no judgement of your own, and all you do is parrot the rabid rightwing spin doctors--you are a sick, rabid partisan, lacking any sense of humanity--You are a lousy opportunist, looking for any opportunity to bash people you call "liberal"--

You are what Classy Fred Blassie used to call a "Pencil Necked Geek"--


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:50 PM

You are telling outright lies, Larry K. I suspect they were fed to you by others, and maybe you don't even know they are lies, but lies they are.

1.) Busses - Nagin didn't refuse to use busses. He wanted to use busses, but he couldn't find any people to drive them.

2.) Evacuation - Republican vs Democrat... Nagin and Blanco evacuated a much larger percentage of their populations than the Republican governor of Mississippi evacuated of his. Many people in Mississippi died who wouldn't have died had they been evacuated.

3.) Ordering National Guard troops - Republican vs. Democrat... Blanco had a few thousand National Guard troops on the ground. The Republican governor of Mississippi had a few hundred National Guard troops on the ground.

I'm not blaming the Governor of Mississippi for what happened. He, like his counterpart in Louisiana, knew, quite rightly, that it was the responsibility of the federal government to give assistance where the resources at the state and municipal levels were not adequate to address the magnitude of the disaster. The federal government failed both the Republican governor of Mississippi as well as the Democrat governor and mayor in Louisiana and New Orleans. The Bush administration failed the American people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 12:55 PM

I should rephrase this...

Nagin and Blanco evacuated a much larger percentage of their populations in the affected areas


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:57 PM

And this straw man from Larry K...

Blanco refused to turn over the national guard to the feds

It wasn't necessary for Blanco to turn over the Louisiana National Guard to the feds in order for the troops from other states that she requested to come in and help out. The Pentagon did eventually send in troops from other states. Blanco requested them prior to the storm. It is the fault of the federal government that the troops she requested were not sent.


And this quite spectacular lie...

Blanco refused to...bring in the national guard before the huricane

From the National Guard's own website...

"More than 6,200 Army and Air National Guard troops were on duty in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida the Monday that Katrina struck with 145-mph winds and blinding rain that, the Associated Press reported, submerged entire New Orleans neighborhoods up to the rooflines and peeled away part of the Superdome.

Two hundred Louisiana troops assisted civilian authorities by conducting security and screening missions at the Superdome where a Guard spokesman reported that more than 10,000 people sought shelter the Sunday night before the storm struck early Monday morning."

http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=1738


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Subject: RE: BS: Rush Limbaugh blames Katrina's victims
From: TIA
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:57 PM

I would be stunned, stunned, stunned to learn that Ron had voted for Osama.

Analogy deceased.


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