BS: In every thread someone has to be last!

Subject: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who will it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,JH
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:46 PM

I'll bet anyone a million bucks that I will not be the last in this one. Any takers?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:53 PM

Except with thread which have been officially closed, being last is always only provisional.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:00 PM

Yes! And that's what's so suspenseful about it, McGrath. One can bask in the distinction of having posted last on a great thread for days...weeks...months...even years...pointing it out proudly to other people..."See? My post was the very last one, way back on May 20, 1999."

And then someone suddenly posts to it! AAAAAARRRGHHH! And so it goes. Sic transit gloria mundi.

It's lonely at the bottom.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:21 PM

Surely, LH, you don't FEED there?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:39 PM

Nice try, Rapaire. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:50 PM

I've felt that I've "killed" a few posts around here. It's an interesting thing to see what'll happen with this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:54 PM

It won't be me.

But any of the "Joe-Clones" can easily achieve this status - they simply post, then close the thread...

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 09:09 PM

You do know we've already done this exact thread once before????

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MMario
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 09:34 PM

man, that is SO DEEP, LH. Worthy of Shatner.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 09:54 PM

THE TWELVE NOBLE TRUTHS OF THE MUDCAT CAFE

In every thread someone has to be last!

At least 50% of Spaw's posts will allude in some fashion to farting.

Any post from John from Hull or Bobert will have at least one spelling error.

At least 90% of all threads on the subject of George W. Bush will have the word "moron" in them.

Bee-dubya-ell can't count worth a shit 'cause this is only five noble truths, ain't it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:11 PM

Would that be Lenny H Worthy of Shatner to which you are alluding there MMario?

I think I met him once, but I never knew where Shatner was...is it in Norfolk?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Allan C.
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:33 PM

Been here. Done this. (grumble, grumble, mumble...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:38 PM

Sure, Spaw, but not under this title! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: flattop
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:42 PM

Is this title more metaphysical?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: SueB
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 11:24 PM

If I'm last here, it will represent one of the few times in my life I've ever had the last word on anything!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 12:12 AM

LH, JtS says you should have the last post right after this post from me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 12:32 AM

Hawk, the title is irrelevant. Once you start something like this there are certain inevitabilities inherent. Just to point them out, let me tell you that the prvious thread was titled "Killing the Thread" and here it for your reading pleasure and as an object lesson in killing threads:

The Mudcat Café TM
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=23443
449 messages
{excessive copy/paste deleted-JoeClone}

read it here --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 12:44 AM

Well THAT'S JUST SILLY!

Rochester! Mary! Oh, Don!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 12:55 AM

Spaw... (and I say this with the greatest affection and all) ...you're an asshole ...um, I mean, you're... well, an asshole.

;-)


( ...sure am glad I never posted to that silly killing the thread thread... well, maybe once... )

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:09 AM

Some grumpy mudcatter is bound to point out this is all a waste of time and of no interest to anyone, takes up our overworked hosts servers, or this thread already exists cos I started it and I dont like other people doing wot I am doing etc etc etc ad infinitum.

But he/she wont be the last because lots of people will post and say 'get that hair out of your arse' or 'lighten up' or just plain old 'get stuffed you grumpy git'

And they might be the last.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:17 AM

How 'bout if I just tell you to fuck off?

Nah.....that never works.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:33 AM

NO I am going to be the last. This is so boring that nobody will post after this.

I live in a sleepy little town (more like a village) called market Rasen in Lincolnshire, England.

I am going to wake them residents up by openeng a new folk club.

It is on Friday 26th starting at 8:00 until all the residents in Market Rasen are so fed up with the noise that they will come to the club to see whats going on. I will charge them a quid to find out. The money will allow me to pay artists I have booked such as Bill Whaley and Dave Fletcher from Boston Lincolnshire and Touchwood from Sydney in Australia.

In order for me to achieve that, I need all of you mudcatters from far and wide to be there. I need as much noise as possible. If you don't come, I will keep on refreshing this thread until I am the last one to post.

See you all there or else :-)

thread.cfm?threadid=67830#1138433

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:42 AM

Friday the 26th March 2004, incase anybody was wondering.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:06 AM

Being the last to post isn't so bad. You can fool yourself into thinking that you have summed everything up in one concise, all encompassing paragraph such that no further discussion is necessary.

Far worse is adding some witticism or apposite point in the middle of a hot topic and it falling on deaf ears. The subsequent posters reply to the posts immediately above yours and the discussion continues as if you had never been there. It makes you want to creep out of the room and wish that you'd kept your mouth shut.


Doug C

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:04 AM

I've got something to say too.
It's not going to be the last post to this thread, but.. it's going to definitely be my last post to this thread.
First and above all... What the fuck was that Spaw? Have you gone totally ballistic on us? Who the hell wants to read old history? To me that's like bringing up a tavern from 2003.
Second, I feel like I am a killer of threads, but it don't get to me cuz' I think it's only my destiny to put an end to certain threads,
and lastly, I look forward to the last post on certain threads, only because it was destined to be the last post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:44 AM

The Last Post - hmm who recorded that?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Jeanie
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:46 AM

Ah, but let's not forget that "The last shall be first, and the first shall be last" as the Good Book tells us. Now, here's a theological question for you all: what does that mean for the vast majority who are somewhere in the middle ?

- jeanie (holy hermit of Essex, who likes to ponder on these things)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: matai
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 05:49 AM

And I thought I was the only one who suffered from this kind of paranoia...but it's only 11.30 here. Good-night.

matai

ps I think it was the bugler

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 05:55 AM

Happy St Patrick's Day.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 08:04 AM

I hadn't realised it was St Patrick's day till tonight I saw a woman wearing a funny green brooch (a brooch made of green ribbon loops with flashing green lights??) & holding a silly green hat. Duh, I thought, it's St Pat's day

(is that boring &/or inconsequential enough to close the thread?)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 08:44 AM

Spaw...let me put this in as delicate a fashion as I can...

You're an idiot. :-) Still, it is nice to know that you're still out there, prepared to drop in occasionally and say something pointless and unnecessary. It feels almost like the old days.

Now go back to harassing the weimaraners.

- LH

p.s. Shatner rules.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Cluin
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 09:09 AM

The new winner in the Waste-of-Time Thread Sweepstakes!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:28 AM

With a little serious competition among self-proclaimed tread-killers, this could eventually rival the Mother Of All Threads (which I have neithe contributed to nor even read).

So Villian - when's that grand opening again - and what's the closest airport?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:56 AM

NEXT!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ben Dover
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 11:18 AM

My name is also my hobby.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Crane Driver
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 11:30 AM

If "The last shall be first" etc, that makes things sort of circular, doesn't it? Rather like driving through Milton Keynes. And no, I DON'T rather like driving through Milton Keynes. Every damn roundabout looks the same. Rather like reading this thread. And no, I DIDN'T rather like reading this thread. Or the other thread inside it. How many threads can you pack into a thread? Is this thread drift or a dimensional rift? Hey, lets copy some other old threads to this one and really screw cyberspace. How do you set a theodolyte without using a match?

I'll get me coat

Andrew

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 11:32 AM

Blackcatter
The nearest airport is Humberside.
The first night is Friday the 26th March 2004.
I am the last again :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: open mike
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 01:40 PM

as the thread unravels...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 01:44 PM

Ummm, being last at what?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:35 PM

Is that an International airport?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:08 PM

A taxidermist is someone who mounts animals. In Canada, we call them sheep f##kers.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:19 PM

The nearest bigger airports are Nottingham East Midlands and Leeds. But then at least an hour car journey is necessary.

Humberside is a smaller airport that does flights to somewhere like Holland, Portugal etc. Don't know anymore.

Are you planning to come along then Blackcatter? Bit far to travel from Florida! I could provide a Heliport pad for you if you so desired. I mile from venue.

Cherrs
Les

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:15 PM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Shlio
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 05:27 PM

As Dylan teaches (and I believe nearly everything that he sang when he wasn't talking through his ass or obviously stoned): "The first one now will later be last" and "you'll find out when you reach the top, you're on the bottom".

Therefore - Little Hawk is destined to be the last poster to this thread.
(Just please don't let it be me)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,garydon
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 05:56 PM

And then there were NONE

Gary®

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 06:14 PM

Hm - if it is true that someone has to be last in every thread, I will have lots of posting to do... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Joybell
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 07:44 PM

We're playing the game of "pass the parcel". Who will be holding it when the end comes? Me? Now? Will the last person please play "The Last Post" for us all. Joy

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 08:30 PM

You're off the hook, Joybell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 09:19 PM

it'll b a joke lone when they close this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:00 PM

last words from bilbo

the Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:19 PM

Right on, Shlio! There are 3 great universal references to all reality in the English language. They are...

Shakespeare.

The Bible.

The writings of Bob Dylan.

It's that simple.

As Bob once said...

"Don't ask me nothin' about nothin', I just might tell you the truth."

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Damon
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:35 PM

It really comes down to who wants it the most!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:19 AM

hey, you are not allowed to post after me - I have to be the last in the thread!

Stop posting! Immediately!











;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:20 AM

Well it's not me!


I can't make it to the grand opening. Flights from ORlando to Leeds are going for a minimum of $750. Don't suppose there's a scholarship fund for poor tin whistle players?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:58 AM

Thats a shame Blackcatter, and there was me thinking you were a wealthy tycoon :-). I had ordered a red carpet and all of that. Better cancel straight away.

If there was a fund, then I would be first in line :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 06:53 AM

To the youngsters here:

In the old Mudcat, one could post with no name, not even the GUEST tag in the 'from' line. One could then, same as today, post with no content at all. So there were actually threads out there ending with no words by nobody. That is the closest to a refutation of the original Jim Dixon dixtum.

It was even more funny when a thread started with no post from nobody.

Corollary: Not in every thread someone has to be the before last.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 08:04 AM

Just in case I'm the lucky one...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 08:05 AM

There IS a prize, right?..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 08:23 AM

Ellenpolly you cheated you posted twice. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 09:02 AM

Ellenpoly, you cannot be the one.

I am the only one who can be last.

It says so in the thread title!

cu,
someone

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Strick
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 10:25 AM

While I'm not worthy enough to post to the "BS: The Mother of all BS threads", I'm beginning to think that it will go on forever or until the end of Hillary's second term as President, whichever comes first.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 10:34 AM

For those who have been looking for that special "someone" all their lives...be informed! You have come to the right place. The someone you seek appears to be posting to this thread!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: flattop
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:08 AM

All those who have been uninformed
and looking for that 'special "someone"
all their lives' are looking for
the same individual?   

And that person appears to be on this
thread?

I wonder who LH thinks this could be?
His wing-flapping self? For both men
and women? Do they have to speak
Dylanese?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:40 AM

"Someone's Knockin' at my Dooor, Someone's Knockin' at my Doooor"
...(but it ain't Bill Shatner, more's the pity)..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:48 AM

flattop, Little Hawk is thinking of me of course - the one and only someone! ;-)

No, Ellenpoly, I am not knocking at your door (at the moment). Must be my alter ego, also known as someoneelse ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:59 AM

But the question is Strick - will Hillary's second term be a complete one or will they succeed in removing her from offie?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:59 AM

Oh, someone, so you're not watching over me either?? Never mind, ...someone else must be!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:04 PM

Sorry, no, I can't be everywhere at the same time.

Being someone involves quite a lot of work (someone's got to do this, someone's got to do that), costs a lot of money (someone's gonna pay for this) and so on.

At least I get some help from my colleages someoneelse and somebody...

cu,
someone (off in a hurry to do this - or was it that?)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:16 PM

LOL!! Really this posting isn't fair to anyone, is it, 'cause I'm only trying for that prize that someone (or anyone) must win...but it may be that dark horse someoneorother...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:24 PM

I just knew this idea would spark some well-needed nonsense around here. Ellenpoly, you MUST read William Shatner's recent book "Get A Life". It's hilarious, witty, urbane, deep, and compassionate. It permits an intimate glimpse into the mind and heart of a legendary figure of stage and screen. Rush out and get it NOW! I kid you not.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: flattop
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:33 PM

Dylan has been thinking about you too, someone. He's been thinking about you a lot!

IT AIN'T ME, BABE
You say you're lookin' for SomeOne
SomeOne to open each and every door,
You say you're lookin' for SomeOne
SomeOne to close his eyes for you,
SomeOne to close his heart,
SomeOne who will die for you an' more,
You say you're looking for SomeOne

SomeOne'S GOT A HOLD OF MY HEART
SomeOne's got a hold of my heart

LOVESICK
Did I hear SomeOne tell a lie?
Did I hear SomeOne's distant cry?

DIRT ROAD BLUES
Gon' walk down that dirt road, 'til SomeOne lets me ride

TEMPORARY LIKE ACHILLES
How come you send SomeOne out to have me barred?
How come you get SomeOne like him to be your guard?

WHAT WAS IT YOU WANTED
SomeOne there in the shadows
SomeOne that I might have missed?

I THREW IT ALL AWAY
So if you find SomeOne that gives you all of her love,

ODDS AND ENDS
From now on you'd best get on SomeOne else

NOTHING WAS DELIVERED
Yes, 'n' SomeOne must explain

SERIES OF DREAMS
Like in a dream, when SomeOne wakes up and screams

SUMMER DAYS
How can you say you love SomeOne else when you know it's me all the time?
My dogs are barking, there must be SomeOne around

WHEN THE NIGHT COMES FALLING FROM THE SKY
You must have been protecting SomeOne last time I called.
I don't want to drown in SomeOne else's wine.

QUINN, THE ESKIMO (The Mighty Quinn)
There's SomeOne on ev'ryone's toes

GOT MY MIND MADE UP
SomeOne's watchin' over you.

EVERY GRAIN OF SAND
Sometimes I turn, there's SomeOne there, other times it's only me.

MAMA, YOU BEEN ON MY MIND
As SomeOne who has had you on his mind.

GOIN' TO ACAPULCO
Now, if SomeOne offers me a joke

CALL LETTER BLUES
Either SomeOne needing mercy

CLOTHES LINE
SomeOne else asked, "What do you care?"

UNBELIEVABLE
There's always SomeOne who understands

COVENANT WOMAN
He must have loved me so much to send me SomeOne as fine as you.

NEED A WOMAN
SomeOne who can see me as I am,

NEW PONY
Is gonna give ya back what you're wishin' on SomeOne else

UNDER YOUR SPELL
SomeOne always gets hurt, a fire always starts.

TELL ME
Are you SomeOne, anyone?

T.V. TALKIN' SONG
There was SomeOne on a platform talking to the folks

THINGS HAVE CHANGED
You can hurt SomeOne and not even know it

LET ME DIE IN MY FOOTSTEPS
When SomeOne is pullin' the wool over me

I AND I
SomeOne else is speakin' with my mouth, but I'm listening only to my heart.

PROPERTY OF JESUS
Because he don't increase his worth at SomeOne else's expense.

SLOW TRAIN
They talk about a life of brotherly love, show me SomeOne who knows how to

SWEETHEART LIKE YOU
Watching out for SomeOne who loves you true

STANDING IN THE DOORWAY
I know SomeOne will be there to care

DIGNITY
SomeOne showed me a picture and I just laughed

SUGAR BABY
Try to make things better for SomeOne, sometimes,

HIGHLANDS
I wish SomeOne would come
SomeOne's always yelling turn it down

BALLAD OF A THIN MAN
When SomeOne attacks your imagination

PERCY'S SONG
That belonged to SomeOne else,

VISIONS OF JOHANNA
Sayin', "Name me SomeOne that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him"

FLOATER (TOO MUCH TO ASK)
It's not always easy kicking SomeOne out

I SHALL BE FREE
SomeOne wanted to come in and take a sauna)

BLACK DIAMOND BAY
"I've got to talk to SomeOne quick!"

DESOLATION ROW
And SomeOne says," You're in the wrong place, my friend

IDIOT WIND
SomeOne's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press

UP TO ME
SomeOne had to reach for the risin' star,





Total number of matches: 45

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:26 PM

I just knew this idea would spark some well-needed nonsense around here.

Little Hawk - you've got to be kidding. Nonsense is the one thing that Mudcat has never had in short supply.


By the way - I still don't want to be the last poster on this thread!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:39 PM

if this thread reaches the proportions of the "MOABS" thread, I shall personally drive to Mudcat Central (only 2 hours from me) and hold Max at bay with a Dobro tuned in BAGDAD while I switch the lines from his washing machine with those for the server, so you all get water spurting out of your screens when you log on!

Hah! That'll make you think twice about fooling with the logical parameters of the involuntary cortical ramifications in midweek with no tolerance for abstempious indulgences that are currently being ignored in all the modular nuances we were promised when this administration first pulled the wool over our collective...what?...No, I haven't taken any pills this morning...why?

wait...no...I have more to say on MANY things pertinant to this discussion which

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Shlio
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:19 PM

GUEST Jasper should visit this thread. Clearly, Dylan could not have had a relationship with Joan Baez when he was so obsessed with Someone!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:33 PM

I predict that this thread will run & run.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:39 PM

See what I mean?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:41 PM

That's because you do not stop posting after me!

Stop it!

Now!


cu (but not in this thread, hopefully),
someone

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 06:50 PM

Yeah? Make me!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 11:38 PM

Now, now, I agree with someone she (or is it he?) should be the last person the post here.

Or maybe . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Joybell
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 12:21 AM

Quick! Catch! Joy

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 02:06 AM

Good Morning

Market Rasen Folk Club Friday 26th March Be there. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 03:37 AM

someone will be there. Or someoneelse. Or somebody.
We have not yet decided who of us has to go...

Blackcatter, of course I am male. If I were female, I'd be called someoness ;-)

And now please stop posting here unless you are someone!

cu,
someone

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 03:47 AM

Where the blue of the night, meets the gold of the day
Someone(ess) waits for you.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 03:56 AM

I absolutely agree. Someone should be last, and every time someone comes on and says so, I'll come on and agree...xx..e

(Thanks, LH, "Get A Life" has been added to my growing list!...They're showing the full length TJ Hooker this week in the UK for Oldies But Goodies Day on Sunday, Channel Five...so set your videos, fans.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 04:03 AM

Why is this thread always at the top of the stack, someone seems to like it. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 04:05 AM

yes, I like it! There are not many threads about me! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:16 AM

Last in space

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:23 AM

Don't give up, someone has to be last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:12 AM

I will be last! For sure!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:20 AM

That's what the cobbler killed his wife with; the last!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:29 AM

YAY someone! Hang in there, I'm right behind you, hehehe..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noone
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:41 PM

I predict that the last person to post will be ME! This thread will grow to rival the Mother of all BS threads!

(is that a paradox?)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 06:32 PM

Shatner will be the last, as he was the first (Captain of the Enterprise to be shown on broadcast TV ).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Uhura
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:36 PM

Bum! The great Mr Shatner was a guest on Jonathon Ross tonight and I missed it!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Someone Else
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 09:22 PM

Yes? You rang?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 09:45 PM

My teachers always said I was an underachiever so if there are NO posts after this then that would mean I have achieved something.

If any bugger posts then I am back to under achieving, sigh ;-( lifes a bitch

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 10:01 PM

yes, life IS a bitch. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 10:16 PM

You know, the "someone" listed in the thread title may just be meant to be the generic "someone" not the actual "someone."

Something to think about (and when I say "something" I mean the specific "something" that I mention above. I have little interest in encouraging you to think of other "somethings.") But, as we all know (or at least those of us who like big band music) "something's gotta give."

And let me reiterate - I don't want to be last so someone (see thought above) had better post!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 10:18 PM

Woo hoo - #100 - In your face Springfield! Get me a Duff Beer!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: someone
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 02:47 AM

As my post[s] vanish, I don't go to the trouble of posting any more after this one.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 02:50 AM

"And the first one now will later be last..."

Saw Dylan! Yay! I am pleased to see that this thread is rolling merrily along. Way to go, people!

Someone will surely end it at some point, though.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Jeanie
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 04:07 AM

Not just yet, though, Little Hawk....
....the Moebius Strip continues.....

- jeanie

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:38 AM

About that prize...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 06:23 AM

personally I think the thread will last.........

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 06:27 AM

and last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 10:49 AM

someone will think of putting an automatic post thing like e-bay and it will be like an infinite possibily drive. i'll buy the last poster dinner at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 12:10 PM

Maybe we could autcion off the right to be the last poster in this thread as a fund raiser for Mudcat. What y'all think?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 12:29 PM

the only really serious question is whether hard drive storage space will continue to expand as fast as the human impulse to be silly.....scholars bicker.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:24 PM

Just remember, 42, there is life AFTER Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy! Listen to "It's All Right Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" three times a day for a month and it will all become crystal clear.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 07:45 PM

112 (but who's counting?)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 03:06 AM

Harumph! I think this thread is rather silly, wastes time, takes up cyber space, it is encouraging people to write senseless posts, make silly quips, depriving we cyber-intelectuals of a chance to write real and meaningful messages and having someone read them.

Oops I said some grumpy git would say something like that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 06:33 AM

114..SRS...I am!

42, I like your prize, but if that damn cow comes by, will she/he be upset if I only order a salad?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 07:38 AM

I don't know about the salad...lettuce ask! Littlehawk,you are SOOOO wrong about there being life after THHGTTG! if I listened to any Dylan 3 times a day for any length of time I'd go insane and have nothing to do but post here and then the thread would never end and I wouldn't have the opportunity to get to know a bunch of grumpy old gits.

;)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 08:36 AM

It's not hard to meet grumpy old gits, 42. Just go to your local coffee shop or bingo hall. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 01:26 PM

NYHFTTS

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 11:48 AM

Well that's the best way to kill a thread - open up a can o' esoteric on it.

But I'm not falling for it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 01:10 PM

Why is a duck?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,lurker
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 05:41 PM

Because the quack

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 06:54 PM

damn!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 09:00 PM

What's the difference between half a hen?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 09:01 PM

One of its legs is both the same.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 09:11 PM

I saw a three-legged chicken the other day. Followed it to a farmer's house. I asked him about the chicken. Told me he raised them because his wife, son and he all liked legs. I asked him what they tasted like. Told me he didn't know--they hadn't been able to catch one yet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 09:28 PM

I've had one - it tastes like chicken . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 03:26 AM

Um...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 11:07 AM

Yeah...well...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 01:05 PM

JennyO you're the first person I've met who knows the answer to that one, they make 'em smart down there!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 03:15 PM

Giok..Martyn Wyndham-Read asked that question here 15 years ago, ("what's the difference between a duck"...and **I** knew the answer....he appeared flabbergasted...*grin*...)

(and the technically precise answer is "because if either of it's legs is both the same")

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Lanfranc
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 06:23 PM

I think I may have killed more threads than most. I used to worry about this, fearing that my "bons mots" were languishing unread in the Forum database.

But now I know the truth - my wit and insightful comments were so awesome that none of the modest, self-effacing people who post here could think of anything to cap them.

Unless, of course, it's just coincidence. I think I might be about to find out.

Why is a duck? because there was no score.

A four-legged hen, a four-legged hen, she'll never let you down.

Grief, even I find me boring!

Alan

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 04:57 AM

Nice day out...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 09:15 AM

Thanks Giok.

Now, how long is a piece of string?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 09:17 AM

There must be an infinite number of correct answers. Here are two of them:

Half of twice its length

or

Twice half its length

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 05:36 PM

If a hen-and-a-half could lay an egg-and-a-half in a day-and-a-half, how long would it take a cross-eyed grasshopper with a wooden leg to kick the seeds out of a dill pickle?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 06:16 PM

Orange. That's my answer.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 07:16 PM

Phone a friend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 26 Mar 04 - 12:49 PM

It's not over till the slightly big boned lady sings..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: dianavan
Date: 26 Mar 04 - 08:34 PM

Someone told me the first was last and the last was first.

d

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: dagenham doc
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 02:02 AM

I guess with anyone and everything there has to be a last.But what do you do when you find and endangered animal eating an endagered plant??

Doc

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 04:18 AM

Shoot the veggie? ;-)
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 09:42 AM

How can there be a cherry that has no stone?
How can there be a chicken that has no bone?
How can there be a ring that has no end?
How can there be a baby with no cryin'?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 12:32 PM

dunno

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 12:42 PM

Have we achieved Shatnerization yet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 04:15 PM

Not that I really want to know, but what are the criteria for Shatnerization?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 05:17 PM

Noit az iren tahs

Repeat this a thousand times my son and you will achieve Shatnerization.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 02:56 PM

:)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 03:42 PM

Hello. I'm Guest,heric.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 04:07 PM

ah.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: dianavan
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 04:11 PM

Littlehawk -

Prove I'm right and make the last post.

d

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 12:20 AM

Bis repetita placent: The things that please are repeated again and again

until..

Acta est fabula..

the drama has been acted out.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 01:52 AM

The only Latin I remember from years ago was Ave Caesar, morituri te salutant! and Carthago delenda est.

Do I get a chocolate chip cookie?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 02:11 AM

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

Those green pants go so well with that pink shirt and the plaid jacket!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 02:31 AM

The Romans had a word for plaid?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 02:52 AM

..apparelly..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 03:05 AM

Bitte sagen sie mir wo ich auschteigen muss...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 03:07 AM

Sorry-that's aufschteigen, I believe (trying to go back decades here..)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 07:19 AM

how about "Cave Canem" loosely translated from the lation as "beware of the doggerel".

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 10:49 AM

cats should always beware of doggerels..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:11 PM

well it's raining caterwaul and doggerel here today!

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:03 PM

I know - I just stepped in a poodle!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:56 PM

This thread should be catatonic by now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 03:19 AM

Not while it's still raining Datsun cogs.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 05:28 AM

Mudcatapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

I have a mudcatapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.

(quote from Amostotle)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:06 AM

gee...i didn't know we were still "rockin" in the free world!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM

If you have to give her money - it's hardly a free world.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:27 AM

i take no responsibility for those rocks, or the money. if you'look, you'll see this was a quite from the ancient Mudcatter, Amostotle.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 12:01 AM

I think we owe it to Little Hawk to keep this up for years.

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 12:22 AM

You are so right! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 09:17 AM

keeping it up for years.. wouldn't that be a little uncomfortable?

concerned

freda

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 10:42 AM

You're sex obsessed Freda, I shall have to get Nurse Ratched to take you in hand.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 10:59 AM

ooh, narky..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 11:02 AM

What you doing up this time of the morning Freda?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 11:10 AM

yes, good question...

enjoying myself!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 11:14 AM

..nite all..

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

fred

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Apr 04 - 07:20 AM

and so we unravel
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 04 - 08:20 AM

Time for bed said Zebedee.
Boioioioioinnnnnngggg
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 12:21 AM

hah!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 05:04 AM

You all still here??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 05:15 AM

Oxi

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 11:57 AM

...moron

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 12:58 PM

moron: someone who still imagines that the Democrats or Republicans will provide good government.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 01:02 PM

realist: someone who votes for a third party because they know that they aren't a moron and there's no point in voting for the ruling parties.

WARNING: I live in Florida and I voted for Nader.

I will do it again . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 01:09 PM

efcharisto poli, serranda dio.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 05:00 PM

Good for you, Blackcatter. A vote for the ruling scumbags (Redemocrapublicants) is no vote at all in my opinion. If you want something new and fresh to grow, you've got to plant new seeds.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 08:32 PM

I agree Little Hawk. The arguement usually is among my friends: well, of the two people who have a chance to win - who would you rather have in? To me it doesn't matter. If I don't significantly agree with either platform, I refuse to vote for them.

And I don't care whether Florida "lost" the election for Gore. He didn't carry his own home state and that would have made Florida irrellevant.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 10:50 PM

efcharisto poli, serranda dio?

Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 05:17 AM

Someone in Melbourne will translate it for you Freda.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 06:41 PM

Thank you very much, ferty two (well, should have been "fourty", but it's misspelled)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 05:03 AM

Shoot the animal, root out the plant, and think of this thread

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 07:12 AM

Mmmm what can I possibly add to this wandering thread?





























still thinking...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 09:37 AM

2 can play at that game ~~~~~~~~> See my next comment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 01:23 PM

Sorry EG my Greek is limited, and I can only speak it a little, never got round to reading it. Especially in that good old Cyrillic script stuff. I mean how can you find your way to the ferry at Patras, when people insist on spelling it Matpai on the road signs?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 04:25 PM

it's all Greek to me.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 11:30 PM

umm - not that I'm an expert, but Greek is typically written in the Greek alphabet isn't it? Cyrillic is what Russian and some other Slavic languages use.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 06:46 AM

didn't Dylan once write "the first one now shall later be last"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 07:09 AM

i'm wandering in late, have strayed a while.. saw some music along the way.. my shadow follows, always there .. shadows shall be the last today.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Thread Killer
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 10:06 AM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 01:08 PM

I wasn't wrong, but then again I wasn't right either!
John
Cyrillic Script
Cyrillic alphabet shares the same roots as Latin does: both are derived from Greek script. However, Latin evolved fron Greek historically, while Cyrillic was invented. This alphabet was named after the Greek monk Constantine (also called Saint Cyrill) who in 862 AD came with his brother, St. Methodius, to Moravia to spread Christianity and teach Slavs "in their own language."
Until the end of 17th century Cyrillic style used in most written and printed communications was POLU-USTAV, a distant relative of Western medieval scripts. In early 18 century by Peter the Great, the reform-minded emperor of Russia, was introduced a simplified, latinized version of the alphabet. The character shapes of the new style, called GRAZHDANSKY SHRIFT, or 'civil type,' were based on the forms of late 17th century Dutch faces, so the new font had Western-style punctuation, lower case letters and Arabic figures.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 01:32 PM

Dutch faces and Arabic figures - I'll bet that could be an interesting combination

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:33 AM

right 36 left24 right 38

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:47 AM

Might not be last but can be 200

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:57 AM

you might be 200, but im last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 08:55 AM

No you're not!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 08:56 AM

i bloody well am!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 09:07 AM

If it's the last thing I do, I'll make this 'Last' thread last, until I am the last, it's the least I can do.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 11:57 AM

I've got nothing to say - I just wanted to share that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 12:16 PM

neither have i

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 10:36 PM

copycat

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 04:27 AM

Black cat!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 07:45 AM

there's one way to end a thread...make it boring. I didn't come here for an arguement! This is the LAST straw!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 08:40 AM

I'm not bored.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 08:55 AM

neither am i

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 09:01 AM

It's been a while since I've posted...feel better now. Happy holidays all!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 09:02 AM

i second that motion

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 12:50 PM

Where is the last straw?

meow, ffffft - ffffft - purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ack, ack p-tui

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 02:26 PM

dunno

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 09:48 PM

And someone has to be first when the Mudcat comes back to life.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 10:14 PM

my god wasnt that a long time that mudcat was inactive. its now 3:09am here. im off to bed soon

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 11:27 PM

Any situation can be improved by adding a chimp to it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Apr 04 - 11:28 PM

did somebody put the cat out?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 10:51 AM

no!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 11:08 AM

I think the proper response is: We didn't know the cat was on fire!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 12:54 PM

Nonsense! When a cat is on fire you KNOW about it!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 01:22 PM

Hot pussy, YES!!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 01:46 PM

That's mighty big talk from a little hawk.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 02:03 PM

rude

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 02:42 PM

rude?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 05:23 PM

very

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 06:09 PM

I agree - someone should stop this thread right now!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 06:13 PM

indeed

your wish is my command---JoeClone

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 05:38 PM

Silly people. It's was re-opened at least a couple of days ago.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:24 PM

silly indeed!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:30 PM

:)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:34 PM

oops "stilly" indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:35 PM

I think I like this thread because everyone is so succinct...Little Hawk would be gnashing his teeth and tearing out his lovely curly locks.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 11:53 PM

Ha!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 04:54 AM

Welcome, welcome old friend. Has anybody told EllenPolly?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 05:30 AM

WHOOOOOPPPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 09:00 AM

Silly girl ;-)
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the Last Word
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 09:51 AM

Revelation 22
22
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2through the middle of the street of the city. On either side of the river is the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, producing its fruit each month; and the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3Nothing accursed will be found there any more. But the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him; 4they will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5And there will be no more night; they need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.
6 And he said to me, 'These words are trustworthy and true, for the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.' 7'See, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.' 8I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me; 9but he said to me, 'You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your comrades the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God!' 10And he said to me, 'Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.' 12'See, I am coming soon; my reward is with me, to repay according to everyone's work. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.' 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they will have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates. 15Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. 16'It is I, Jesus, who sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.' 17The Spirit and the bride say, 'Come.' And let everyone who hears say, 'Come.' And let everyone who is thirsty come. Let anyone who wishes take the water of life as a gift. 18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book; 19if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 The one who testifies to these things says, 'Surely I am coming soon.' Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! 21The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 02:24 PM

that amen has the ring of finality to it.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Apr 04 - 01:16 PM

ha!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Apr 04 - 02:15 PM

ha ha

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Apr 04 - 06:55 PM

I told you this thread would run and run!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Apr 04 - 08:35 PM

My goal is to be the second-to-last poster.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 17 Apr 04 - 11:06 PM

Well, your wish is my command!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Thread Killer
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 06:33 AM

This thread is dead! It's passed on! This thread is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet it's maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off it's mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 06:37 AM

Um, Last Word, I didn't read your whole posting. Does that mean I'm not allowed to post here anymore? I'll await your response, and keep posting until you give the last word...again...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 10:08 AM

But I wanna have the last word!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Last Word
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 10:41 AM

You may Have the Last Word

but I Am the Last Word


L.W.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 11:34 AM

OK, but do you come wrapped in shiny paper with a pretty bow?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 11:45 AM

"thread killer"'s rant made me smile 'cause it reminded me of my last marriage. Just keep saying it and it will happen eventually. Of course that took ten years to kill so there's still hope for the thread!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 02:11 PM

oops... that last post was really me in unintentional disguise
haven't mastered this login-out thing. wouldn't want to trump my own ace and beat myself out of last place!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 18 Apr 04 - 06:04 PM

I know for sure I won't be the last posting on this thread...because there will always be someone who will say "Oh yes you will"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 01:02 AM

No, I won't. I'M GONNA BE LAST!!!!!! I never got the last word growing up, so I'm gonna get it now!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 01:29 AM

i can see the end of the middle of nowhere from here - does that count for anything? and being late all the time - i *like* being last!
omega sans alpha,
v

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 01:33 AM

AH...spring is here...the sap's flowing

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:13 AM

if i type a post with just a space in it and no letters, etc. and then nobody posts after me, do i win ?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:27 AM

Of course you would, s6K...but I'm not betting on it..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:39 AM

i am the lastest!! neener-neener! I am the most last on earth - way gone far away with nothing but slime-molds as friends!
how could anybody even argue??
:-)
v

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:40 AM

xx..j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:40 AM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:53 AM

hee hee,
HOW can anybody even argue? we are the LAST place on earth you will ever come to, unless you are filthy rich and can come here too!
why shouldn't *I* - who has to live here - be LAST? After all, I have paid my my dues...
lastly to be first,
v

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 05:03 AM

just posting without any comments seems like cheating; post last - like the Norwegians (Vikings) cutting off their hands to throw it on the island to be there first, and claim the country for Norway.
I'm keepin all my body parts, but insist that logically - I should be last, inasmuch as I continue to reason with the very real facts, that I am at the end of the earth, and have earned being "last".
just hitting 'post' with xxe, or nothing there, is cheating!
last and not least,
v

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 05:57 AM

More polite than a V sign!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 06:00 AM

I agree, wholeheartedly

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 07:04 AM

let's not get cranky now...can anyone think of interesting situations or opportunities where being last might be a VERY GOOD THING?

Has anyone ever tried to losea game of tic tac toe?


jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 11:33 AM

Being the "last man standing" has always been seen as a good thing in action/adventure tales.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 11:41 AM

Yippee! Here comes the 7th Cavalry, we're all saved.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 12:12 PM

There ya go again LH.."last man standing". I am sure you meant to be more inclusive with accepting the very real possibility that it will be the last woman. Remember, we bear pain better than youse guys, and this is getting to be a painful thread..xx..e

(PS-I've never just put xxe on a posting, and if I did, it would still speak volumes to those who know how to de-code it!..xx..e)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 02:38 PM

Hey Ellenpoly, I really thought you were going to be last!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 02:42 PM

okay ...
   sorry and yee haw! (not neccessarily in that order)
:-)
v

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Shlio
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:32 PM

And I thought Joe Offer's polite little "thread closed" note would be last...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 04:33 PM

get up in the morning i believe i dust my broom

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 03:05 AM

Like Dylan sang "The first one now will later be last, for the times they are a changin"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 03:24 AM

I don't expect to be the last, as I've never won anything and the prize for this one is so HUGE! But I'll hang on for as long as possible...cough...gasp...pant............x (only one x)...e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:12 AM

where else can a "grown up" go to stick his/her tongue out and say
"nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" without looking petulant and silly?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:19 AM

dunno

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:26 AM

Nor do I

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:27 AM

..Farewell to you and the youth I have spent with you.

It was but yesterday we met in a dream.

You have sung to me in my aloneness, and I of your longings have built a tower in the sky.

But now our sleep has fled and our dream is over, and it is no longer dawn.

The noontide is upon us and our half waking has turned to fuller day, and we must part.

If in the twilight of memory we should meet once more, we shall speak again together and you shall sing to me a deeper song.

And if our hands should meet in another dream, we shall build another tower in the sky.

So saying he made a signal to the seamen, and straightaway they weighed anchor and cast the ship loose from its moorings, and they moved eastward.

And a cry came from the people as from a single heart, and it rose the dusk and was carried out over the sea like a great trumpeting.

..from The Farewell (Last Chapter of the Prophet by Khalil Gibran)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:28 AM

just because your post is long doesnt mean it will be last ;)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:52 AM

no, but it's in theme...

as opposed to some of the unthemely comments that have been made previously!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 12:00 PM

I may not be last but I have a feeling this thread will last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 12:11 PM

Get out of the road if you want to grow old

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: skipy
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 02:49 PM

zygomartically speaking

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:31 PM

i always figured to get out on the road would be the way to get old. here I am old and still on the shoulder.

j

ahhhh....as Deirdre Flint says in her cheerleader song..."If I could live my life in rewind, there're a couple of changes I'd make next time."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:48 PM

me too

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:51 PM

how do you make that symbol in your moniker? it's very striking!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:51 PM

This thread has descended into banality, and now might be a better time to call it a day.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:58 PM

Nonsense! We have yet to get into a really serious discussion about William Shatner, how he changed the art of stage and screen, and his overall effect on the evolution of human consciousness and social mores as we move boldly into the 21st century.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:07 PM

J"G"M ...banal is as banal does and nobody makes you visit us in our boredom and despair. Although I'm not quite desperate enough to get into a discussion of William Shatner with Little Hawk. Who needs Tribbles anyway?!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:11 PM

Nobody needs tribbles. Least of all, Klingons!

"Pack up your tribbles in your old kit bag, and smile, smile, smile!"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:13 PM

sheesh LH...you posted at 6:11 and it's only 6:05 here. I think I must be trapped in a time warp!

j

good thing I have my towel!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:49 PM

death to the anti-shatner!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 08:13 PM

Shatner rules! Have you seen him hosting the American version of Iron Chef? My favorite bit was the purple spangly top hat and tails. How can anyone resist such consummate showmanship?

And I still want to know if The Last Word will be wrapped in shiny paper with a pretty bow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:31 AM

Sorry freda, but such a high-toned posting of Gibran almost brought this thread into the realms of the intellect, a place few of us feel at our best (just on this thread, folks..don't get persnippity with me).

In agreement rather with LH, that an in-depth discussion of Willam Shatner will still keep us safely skating on the surface of life as we know it, with little chance of sinking into the morass of higher learning. Lead on, McHawk!..xx..e

PS-Oh GOODY! I didn't know shiny paper and a pretty bow were in the offering! You'll never get rid of me now!..;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:53 AM

persnippity..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 07:48 AM

and still it goes on....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 08:44 AM

I just thought I'd drop in for a minute and say that I am gratified by the good sense shown by stalwarts like Little Hawk and ranger1 and s6k. You're just the kind of people this society needs, people with real taste and understanding who aren't afraid to stand up and voice their opinions. I've been pretty busy with the horses, recording a new album with Tom Waites, and booking conferences and so on. Have a look at my website for the latest chitchat.

williamshatner.com

Well then, carry on,

William Shatner

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 09:39 AM

Oh heck! He didn't even mention me!....:-(

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 09:41 AM

Post number 300. I thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 09:44 AM

Ted. if you keep stealing all these landmark posts i am going to kill you.

you must have no life i bet you just sit at your computer sifting through mudcat threads looking for one that is one post of a hundred landmark.

well i think its disgusting.

death to the anti shatner, and el ted

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 02:43 PM

A milestone usually denotes something important when used in that sense. As this thread is of no importance whatsover, the so called 'milestone' is as significant as the hair on a pimple on a gnats testes.

Let's see you get persnippity about that then, my proud and haughty wench.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 03:13 PM

youre the one who just GOT persnippity!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mudlark
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 03:20 PM

Back about 20 posts or so I noticed that F.Underhill made a valiant attempt at putting this baby to sleep with poetry. Nice try, Freda! The fact, however, that it still has legs says something profound about the human spirit.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:41 PM

is persnickity just a pleasant term to mean anal?

   j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 07:00 PM

its persnippity !

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 04:00 AM

How come everyone is using persnippity now that I have on another thread? Huh? Huh?

Dear Mr Shatner, don't listen to them, come back and give us the wisdom of your age and experience. Don't forget to check out the UFO thread as well. We are all waiting for your next landing...don't be put off by these persnippity folk...and remember my name next time or my friends won't believe I know you..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:40 AM

yes mudlark - people (myself included) will do anything to survive a poetry attack.

Mr MacKenzie is using this thread to indulge in interpsecies insensitivity.

"hair on a pimple on a gnats testes"

this may seem an insignificant simile to him, but even gnats are sentient beings, with their own hopes, dreams, and pimples. I had a pimple on my nose this morning, actually, maybe thats why I'm empathising with that gnat.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:22 AM

Pimples are a sign that God/Goddess/All That Is remembers you. He/She/It is pretty busy, so in His/Her/Its Infinite Wisdom He/She/It shows His/Her/Its affection by sending pimples to us. I personally think it's awfully nice for Him/Her/It to take the time out of His/Her/Its busy schedual to do this for us...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:38 AM

Dr Edward de Bono Gold Medal for that one EP.

John ROTFLMFAO

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:52 AM

eh... little earth day chorus for you

Cause it's Earth Day in Can a da.
Garbageless lunch - all the rage.
Pick up the trash that was tossed out the window.
Write on the back of the page.
Yes it's Earth Day in Can a da.
The day we atone for our greed
Pretend that we care and are doing our share.
And never take more than we need.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:57 AM

'Show Off'

There needs to be more opportunities for people to show off. If the basis is valid then there is nothing wrong with showing off. It is only when there is a mis-match between showing and the substance that the process becomes disagreeable. A talented trapeze performer in a circus is showing off and deserves the applause he or she gets.

We need to design opportunities for achievement and then to applaud achievement. In a survey ninety-four per cent of youngsters said they valued achievement more than anything else. There is sport, but what other avenues of achievement?

Edward de Bono nmt
19th April 2004

(So, um, thanks, I guess...xx..e)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,nurse ratched
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:02 AM

Giok

You will find out the true meaning of persnippity when I've found my surgical scissors.

You are getting to big for your own brogues, lad.


n.r.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,nurse ratched
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:03 AM

oops, forgot the sporrancheck...

TOOO big, Mr Giok, too big.

n.r.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:27 AM

Post number 315. Another landmark! I thank you, my work here is done.
ps: yes adam you are right, I don't read any of this crap I simply cruise about looking for 100th posts. Carry on everybody.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 09:11 AM

I've just pinched the 700th post on the Guam thread.Isn't life great?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:17 AM

Try this ep Lateral thinking is what I meant, re your post.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:37 PM

Yes, dear 'Giok', I understand that. I went to all the trouble of hunting down this man's website after you conferred that "Honour" upon me. What I posted was the man's daily words of wisdom (Well, close enough...it was his latest post in any case). I figure more people needed to be aware of his greatness.

I am only a shadow of the reflection of the ghost of the spirit of the original..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mudlark
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:42 PM

Fowler says, and I agree, that persnickety is more than just fussy, it's prissily fussy and irritatingly arch with it. Fowler would never use a word like anal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:12 PM

What does Fowler say about arabocious?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:26 PM

i think i will lead by teds example..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,lurker
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:30 PM

Persipacious persnippity pernickity perfidious pantalooning pandynamic pathological pasteurised polluminous posters.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:34 PM

Pusillanimity!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:28 PM

In honor of this thread, a little poem I wrote on the back of a cocktail napkin after several pints of Bass and wee bit too much Jamison's.

Ahem:

I don't think this thread was meant to inspire
To have the last word is everone's desire
From Little Hawk's obsession with Bill Shatner
To anyone posting who might be covered in cat fur
El Ted landmarking without reading the posts
Pimples on gnat's testes (oh, gross!)
Ellenpoly's lovely vocabulary word persippity
(Not to be confused with persnickity)
As this thread continues
good sense dwindles
I know this poem is simply absurd
But I really, really want the last word!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:12 PM

Google search for "persnippity" 1710 hits
Google search for "persnickety" 25,000 hits

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:17 PM

Yeah, but did you like my poem?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 08:35 PM

nope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:40 PM

the poem was loverly.

       j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:50 PM

It was indeed. It made me cry. I am touched.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:24 AM

It was an inspired poem Ranger1, even though you, ahem, misspelled persnippity.

The fact that there were less hits of this wonderful word than the more commonplace persnickety just proves that a little elitism is not a bad thing.

Now! For all of you who have kept the faith and refused to let this thread die the death of the unloved...here is my gift back to you.

It is a word of my own devising. You may use it, but I'd like to think you'll give credit when asked, to moi...

Here we go...

The word is "Wasband"; referring to ones "Ex-Husband". I invented this back around 1984, when I had to refer to my own dear friend but no longer partner as Something and I hated the idea of having to "Ex" him out each time he came up in conversation.

There you are folks. Use it, abuse it, but know that it was devised out of love and affection...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 05:45 AM

persnippity wasband... sounds like a country band

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 06:32 AM

another word,combination of husband and ex, "hex"...


fred

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 07:14 AM

I think I need an "english to dumbbell" dictionary.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 08:23 AM

Interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 09:57 AM

very

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 02:49 PM

I have 3 ex wives of my own, and they are known as 1st, 2nd, and 3rd mistake, in that order.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:39 PM

You are a true optimist!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 05:36 AM

Okay...new word having fallen on deaf ears or blind eyes, or, well, you get my drift. Not everyone remembers their ex's fondly..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 06:52 AM

I like both wasband and hex....I'm still thinking of mine as 'that drunken jerk' however and haven't been able to shorten that phrase to anything cute and useful.

Soon!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 07:37 AM

derk ?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 08:36 AM

I've got three exes.

One is a hippie, lives in a gypsy caravan on an organic farm (run by his capable wife who looks like I did 30 years ago) with stained glass windows, has a huge telescope thru which he looks at the universe in all its glory, paints mandalas, goes surfing and flies kites. We are still good friends.

the next is a businessman, lives in London, has an antiques and shares, suits & briefcase lifestyle. enough said.

the third is a pianist and artist, earns his living through his music, studies Kabbalah and plays, sings and writes new Orleans style blues. we are still good friends.

two are wasbands, one is a hex.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 12:10 AM

Thanks! I like that. Derk!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 06:31 AM

Now can someone come up with something better than ex-wife? "Were-wife" strikes me as being a little harsh when the moon is full..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 06:38 AM

hahahahahahahahaha !!!!!! *howwwwwwwwlllllll !

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 07:16 AM

talk about your running with the wolves!

How about pre-curser?

old spice?

strife?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 09:33 AM

Ellenpoly, sorry about mispelling persnippity, I think it was actually a typo. My brain moves much faster than my two pointer fingers.

As to a word for ex wife, how about swife?

Can anyone come up with a good name for a fiance who dumps the girl for an affair with a married woman? The best I could do at the time was pondscum. Now I rarely think of him at all, the best revenge, I think.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 04:57 PM

How about heterosexual.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 04 - 06:01 PM

Previous owner!
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 07:20 AM

all very charming and descriptive as well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 12:25 PM

I love swife!!!!

As for the bastard who trades in the latest model for a used one before the purchase even takes place, I say, he'll get what he deserves... more mileage than shown on the meter, and lots of nasty surprises under the hood.

Count yourself lucky..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 12:55 PM

You know if you pierce the hood, it's easier to pull it up to check what's under it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:32 PM

spoken as a true dipstick.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:36 PM

...who veered onto the soft shoulder and got rolled.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Apr 04 - 11:57 PM

They're not much use in that situation but are fairly handy when your oil level is down

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:03 AM

Actually, that's one of Shane's favorite pick-up lines: "Hey, babe, you want your oil checked?" It usually doesn't work too well for him, though.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 03:38 AM

i would think not

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 04:04 AM

Ok folks, sounds like a good tread weave here...what ARE some of your best chat-up lines? I've yet to hear one that would gun my engine, but ready to be pleasantly surprised...;-)

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 04:09 AM

I love cooking, and I would like to take you home and cook you my favourite meal.
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Breakfast

John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 05:33 AM

Just found this thread

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 05:34 AM

Have not heard from someone for a while . Has somebody given someone somthing to think about and is now busy doing something else?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 05:35 AM

I want to be some one some day

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 05:35 AM

Its ME! I won

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,someone called noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 06:17 AM

fame at last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 06:20 AM

you cant tell the bottom from the top

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,little hawk
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 06:24 AM

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He sadi," In every thread someone has to be last"

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Fell free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who wil it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

-LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 06:32 AM

certainly is

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 07:12 AM

I still like this thread because the posts are short and sweet. forget finding a dumb theme...if you want to trade tired old pick up lines start a new thread. I'll take Little Hawk's thread and go home and you can have this spot on the list or...We could discuss feathers.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 07:41 AM

did you know the original golf ball was made of feathers.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 09:17 AM

I have killed several threads simply by expressing an opinion, so I'll just try it one more time:

"In every thread someone has to be last"?

Not necesarily.

John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 09:28 AM

Sorry 42, I was just trying to keep the conversation going. If you prefer feathers to pick-up lines, by all means...let's talk feathers!


Now just what was it you wanted to say about them?..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 11:29 AM

Horse feathers.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 11:32 AM

here's some last words...



Farewell Song To The Banks Of Ayr


The gloomy night is gath'ring fast,
Loud roars the wild, inconstant blast,
Yon murky cloud is foul with rain,
I see it driving o'er the plain;
The hunter now has left the moor.
The scatt'red coveys meet secure;
While here I wander, prest with care,
Along the lonely banks of Ayr.

The Autumn mourns her rip'ning corn
By early Winter's ravage torn;
Across her placid, azure sky,
She sees the scowling tempest fly:
Chill runs my blood to hear it rave;
I think upon the stormy wave,
Where many a danger I must dare,
Far from the bonie banks of Ayr.

'Tis not the surging billow's roar,
'Tis not that fatal, deadly shore;
Tho' death in ev'ry shape appear,
The wretched have no more to fear:
But round my heart the ties are bound,
That heart transpierc'd with many a wound;
These bleed afresh, those ties I tear,
To leave the bonie banks of Ayr.

Farewell, old Coila's hills and dales,
Her healthy moors and winding vales;
The scenes where wretched Fancy roves,
Pursuing past, unhappy loves!
Farewell, my friends! farewell, my foes!
My peace with these, my love with those:
The bursting tears my heart declare-
Farewell, the bonie banks of Ayr!


......................
"I composed this song as I conveyed my chest so far on my road to
Greenock, where I was to embark in a few days for Jamaica. I meant it as my farewell dirge to my native land."-R. Burns, 1786

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:03 PM

Ah freda, trying to raise the tone of this thread again, aren't you? Well I for one think this far preferable to either feathers or chat-up lines...unless you think that Robert Burns used his poetry to that effect?...Keep em coming..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:06 PM

reading poetry will keep me going while I wait for someone to ask me to breakfast!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:19 PM

wanna come to breakfast?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:24 PM

okay, i can stop reading poetry now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 01:00 PM

yep :)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 03:16 PM

Have you actually seen the original golf ball, Noddy?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 07:44 PM

Um, back to the last word...Mary Chapin Carpenter doesn't want it, so can I have it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Apr 04 - 08:59 PM

sorry!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 04:01 AM

Hi Little Hawk no I have not seen THE original one but I have seen one of the very early ones.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 06:13 AM

Fore! The game where less is more...have to love golf!
or laugh at the whole concept.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 10:56 AM

Ellenpoly -

I just want to know the chat up line that works with you . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 11:03 AM

Actually feather we not used in the first golf balls:

Between the 1400s and the 1960s there have been four distinct types of golf balls produced and used to play the game of golf: Wooden golf balls, Feather stuff leather cover (Featherie) golf balls, Gutta Percha balls and Rubber Core (modern golf) balls.

Wooden golf balls may have been made of hardwoods, such as: beech and boxroot. Not much information has survived from the wooden ball period. They were probably made and used from the circa 1400s into the perhaps the 17th century.

The leather cased and internally stuffed (feathery) golf ball period may have begun as early as the 1400s or as late as the 1600s and lasted into the early 1850s. The golf balls used during the pre-1700s period may have been wooden balls or leather cased balls that were stuffed with uncombed wool flock (the sajet ball?) or hair. The use of hair or flock as stuffing was most likely a short-lived process as the flock quickly lost its' resilience. Ultimately, early ball makers found using feathers produced a lively, longer lasting golf ball.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 12:43 PM

Hey Blackcatter, me too! ;-D ..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,lurker
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 05:24 PM

How many dimples are there on golf balls?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 05:26 PM

You need to know a golf really well before he'll let you count the dimples on his balls.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 08:31 PM

one for every hair.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Apr 04 - 11:58 PM

folliclely challenged?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,NODDY
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 09:12 AM

Well I tried to be last and failed!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 10:00 AM

Yep!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 11:20 AM

Use a nine iron, and aim directly between the golfer's legs. Swing firmly, increasing velocity exponentially as you swing, and follow through!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 01:16 PM

ouch...that hurts
j

or would if anyone would stand for it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 01:39 PM

Not too far off a hole in one there LH.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 03:36 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 07:23 PM

hole in two?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Apr 04 - 11:31 PM

Or you might have to pick up the spare, as in bowling

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 03:55 AM

Oh yes, this is far more interesting than chat-up lines and feathers. I'm now asleep and drooling, thanks very much.

I'll check back in a couple of days to see if this thread has moved onto anything that interests me...if not, I think I give up the fight to kill it off. Right now it's too deadly boring!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 04:01 AM

I remember EPs, I still have a couple, including an old and scratchy one of EP himself. Is that interesting enough for you EP?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 04:28 AM

I am off on hols for a week.

I'll be back!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 05:31 AM

EP will always be of interest to me, thanks Grok. We ARE talking of the same EP I hope..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 05:33 AM

Whoops! I meant "Giok", and that last post was me...I'm not at home and forgot to sign my name..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 07:36 AM

yeeeeeaaaaah! ellenopoly down and thirty-five to go!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:30 AM

Down, maybe, but not out..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:33 AM

Belgium, anyone?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:42 AM

triantiwontigongalope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:50 AM

Do you really mean that, freda?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:56 AM

absolutely....












totally.....


and












utterly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 12:31 PM

So Ellen - what would you like to talk about?

I'm not that experienced in chatting up a pretty lady and would like some tips. I know I should get the lady to talk about herself, but work can be a minefield subject and most ladies don't want to get too personal early on in a conversation.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 02:54 PM

What have the Belgians ever done for us?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 03:51 PM

We had a bunch of threads on that very question a long time ago. They seem to have helped substantially in regards to making great chocolates.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 07:18 PM

The also keep the Dutch and the French from getting together and taking over the world (or so I've heard).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 May 04 - 09:44 AM

they gave us Hercule Poirot!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 04 - 11:40 AM

They seem to also have provided the World with some very fine mercenary soldiers. Read "The Dogs of War" for some info on that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 04 - 11:49 AM

Renee Magritte - one of the great painters of last century.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 01 May 04 - 01:50 PM

Still looking for chat-up tips.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 01 May 04 - 03:24 PM

dogs of war are men of hate
with no cause they dont discriminate

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 04 - 06:30 PM

Not necessarily. Some of them have a tendency to side with the underdog, and that is definitely a form of idealism. They obey their own best judgement rather than following orders like robots. They are mavericks and make up their own minds about which side to fight for. In many cases they will not fight for a given side, because they disapprove of its ethics or motives, even if it IS willing to pay them more money. In this respect they are very much like Indian warriors were, in that they are autonomous. Indians made excellent mercenaries, and sadly, helped the whites defeat other Indians time and time again...but that was because they lacked an overall sense of nationhood.

Then there are the ones who have no ethics at all, and fight just for the money. As regards those, s6k, you are quite correct in your estimation of their character.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 May 04 - 07:15 PM

your last post is too long LH. three sentence maximum. (tee hee)

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 04 - 07:20 PM

Oh, yeah. Forgot which thread I was on...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 01 May 04 - 07:49 PM

i plagiarized from Pink Floyd im afraid

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:25 AM

Anyone know any good Nostradamus quatrains?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:09 PM

Now descends the purple sky king
From his thrice-bordered rose-tinted sepulchre
As the plangent lances of Venus
Strike terror into the hearts of the Andalusians

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:13 PM

LH, have you been looking for that for the last 12 hours?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:36 PM

Naw...I just made it up. Sounds like the real thing, doesn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:06 AM

Century X quatrain 90 Nostradamus..

A hundred times will the inhuman tyrant die,
In his place put one learned and mild,
The entire Senate will be under his hand,
He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:21 AM

Century 7   Quatrain 25

Through long war all the army exhausted,
so that they do not find money for the soldiers;
instead of gold or silver, they will come to coin leather,
Gallic brass, and the crescent sign of the Moon.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 May 04 - 03:37 AM

From Century VII

33
The kingdom stripped of its forces by fraud,
the fleet blockaded, passages for the spy;
two false friends will come to rally
to awaken hatred for a long time dormant.


Hey Blackcatter, I'm not avoiding the question, just giving it a good think. Maybe I'm not the best to answer this, no longer being in my prime...but if I think back far enough, I vaguely remember that what worked for me was humour, honesty, less small talk and more intelligence.

If someone came up and started talking about the Quatrains of Nostradamus, you'd bet I'd perk up!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:05 AM

John Thomas says good night to lady Jane, a little droopingly, but with a hopeful heart.





(Last sentence of "Lady Chatterly's Lover" by D. H. Lawrence)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:23 AM

"the evening star must be drooping and shedding her sparkler dims on the prairie, which is just before the coming of complete night that blesses the earth, darkens all rivers, cups the peaks and folds the final shore in, and nobody, nobody knows what's going to happen to anybody besides the forlorn rags of growing old, I think of Dean Moriarty, I even think of Old Dean Moriarty the father we never found, I think of Dean Moriarty."


(Last sentence of "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:31 AM

A seminal work Freda
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,ratched
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:49 AM

You have a dirty mind Mr Giok -
n.r.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:50 AM

Glory, as anyone knows, is bitter stuff.

...last sentence of "The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea" by Yukio Mishima ..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 03 May 04 - 06:58 AM

as they looked at the humans and the pigs, already it was impossible to tell them apart.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 May 04 - 07:41 AM

Somebody threw a dead dog after him down the ravine.

last line of "Under the Volcano" by Malcolm Lowry

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:39 PM

Ellen - you are NOT past your prime.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:46 PM

Is that rib, number, or minister?
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:48 PM

Now THAT'S a good chat-up line!! ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 03 May 04 - 07:03 PM

And so it goes on, when is anybody going to give up trying.....will this thread go on for ever???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 May 04 - 08:03 PM

where there's a will there's a way!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 May 04 - 09:34 PM

It's already well beyond any other thread in length with the exception of the MOAT.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 May 04 - 12:24 PM

The best thing about this thread being so long and my modem being so slow downloading it, is that it's the perfect time to take a tea break..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 04 - 12:32 PM

Absolutely.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 May 04 - 02:52 PM

positively!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 04 May 04 - 02:54 PM

definately

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 May 04 - 06:44 PM

Ellen - I'd guess you know, but are you aware of the thread division and last post first options?

On the main page, "Click on the linked "Messages" numbers to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending)."

The first option breaks the thread up into 50 post pages, much more easy to handle.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 04 - 09:49 PM

But when?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 05 May 04 - 04:28 AM

dunno

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM

Let me see... How to kill a thread. No dragons and firestone here, so...

I can post a sonnet. If anyone pposts after it, I will take it as encouragement, and post another. THAT should do it! (I have LOTS of sonnets)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:10 AM

YAYYYY Blackcatter! Your latest advice now constitutes the best chat-up line ever!!!

What a clever way to be sure I continue this subtle litte dialogue we're having amidst talks of golf, feathers, quatrains and poetry... to mention only a pittence of the meaningful subjects brought to the fore on this unique thread. One would think we were only exchanging niceties rather than digging deeply into each other's subconscious.

Oh, and to the rest of you...back to Belgium and what it's given the world. How about more varieties of Beer than any other country? Small wonder then, that it was chosen as Headquarters for the EU.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:14 AM

You have been warned....

Sonnet 14/04/04                      CMVI

Can springtime offer me more than I find
In dreams of you? I do not hope to see
A flower to match lips, nor one to be
As soft as look in eyes. I have in mind
Rebirth enough for world: If you are kind,
I will to heavens reach, and brush your cheek
With lips. If only I might hear you speak
Soft words of hope, I would to past be blind.
But, dream does not fill arms, nor lend the gift
Of sharing your sweet looks. I remain far
From heart's desire: I must from your words sift
What hope I can. You remain distant star,
To guide my heart: For now, your smile will lift
My spirits up, and melancholy bar.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:46 AM

..."Between the years of ninety-two and a hundred and two, however, we shall be the ribald, useless, drunken outcast person we have always wished to be. We shall have a long white beard and long white hair; we shall not walk at all, but recline in a wheel chair and bellow for alcoholic beverages; in the winter we shall sit before the fire with our feet in a bucket of hot water, with a decanter of corn whiskey near at hand, and write ribald songs against organized society; strapped to one arm of our chair will be a forty-five caliber revolver, and we shall shoot out the lights when we want to go to sleep, instead of turning them off; when we want air we shall throw a silver candlestick through the front window and be damned to it; we shall address public meetings to which we have been invited because of our wisdom in a vein of jocund malice. We shall ... but we don't wish to make any one envious of the good time that is coming to us. ... We look forward to a disreputable, vigorous, unhonored and disorderly old age."

                                       Don Marquis, 1927


Me, I've already started..xx..e


(PS-Including the beard)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 04 - 06:14 AM

I don't think I want to wait until I am 92...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 May 04 - 09:24 AM

Dateline: Mudcat

Sonorous Sonnets Sate Sonambulistic Subjects


and the thread goes on.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 05 May 04 - 10:01 AM

im gonna be last, so can everyone stop posting now please

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 May 04 - 11:42 AM

Okey dokey..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 May 04 - 11:53 AM

If you haden't said "please" . . .

Your welcome Ellen - while it doesn't get me girlfriends, being helpful has given me many girl friends. Most of which I'd like to shag as well, but . . .

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


Spirits of the Dead

Edgar Allen Poe (1827)

Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone;
Not one, of all the crowd, to pry
Into thine hour of secrecy.
Be silent in that solitude,
Which is not loneliness- for then
The spirits of the dead, who stood
In life before thee, are again
In death around thee, and their will
Shall overshadow thee; be still.
The night, though clear, shall frown,
And the stars shall not look down
From their high thrones in the Heaven
With light like hope to mortals given,
But their red orbs, without beam,
To thy weariness shall seem
As a burning and a fever
Which would cling to thee for ever.
Now are thoughts thou shalt not banish,
Now are visions ne'er to vanish;
From thy spirit shall they pass
No more, like dew-drop from the grass.
The breeze, the breath of God, is still,
And the mist upon the hill
Shadowy, shadowy, yet unbroken,
Is a symbol and a token.
How it hangs upon the trees,
A mystery of mysteries!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 May 04 - 12:07 PM

Shagging can be very helpful in the right circumstances. But more important at the moment is...just where the heck did that word come from to describe that act?

"shag (vb) to have sex (with).
A common vulgarism in Britain and Australia which is unknown in this in the USA. The word is an archaic relative of 'shake', which was used in a sexual sense from at least the 16th century. In Britain shag took over the taboo role in the 18th century, while in the USA it took on the (now obsolete) meaning of 'run off' or 'run after'. In modern usage the word is considered less offensive than fuck in male company, but more vulgar than other synonyms. Like fuck it occurs in other forms, such as the noun shag, the intensifying adjective 'shagging' and phrases such as 'shag off'. "

;-D   ..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:06 PM

i wont say please this time then.

stop bloody posting you buggers or i will bloody hit you all you bloody buggers

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:10 PM

Too late s6k.

Ellen - nothing turns me on more than a lady talking sex in an academic way.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:10 PM

Only about 2555 posts needed now to catch up with the MOAB!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:16 PM

Yes, but with this thread it's quality over quantity.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 04 - 08:29 PM

As I said, I have LOTS more...


Sonnet 31/03/04                                  CMII

She lights my dreams with her sweet smile, and gives
To heart the hope that spring will offer chance
To show a part of what in her glance lives:
A way of seeing all that feeds romance.
The thought of her lends passion to my night
And longing when I wake to bright sunrise.
I want her in my arms, to hold her tight,
And fall to sleep looking into her eyes.
What can I say, to tell what dreams have found
Within her words? Her thoughts reach to my soul,
And hold my heart: Heart is by my hopes bound,
And dreams seem to be by sweet muse made whole.
Muse brings the sunshine to a dreary day,
When all of world seems to be dark and gray.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Corridus
Date: 05 May 04 - 11:51 PM

Where is Measle? I have sworn to destroy him.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 May 04 - 12:22 AM

Daffodils
William Wordsworth

I WANDER'D lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

Continuous as the stars that shine
And twinkle on the Milky Way,
They stretch'd in never-ending line
Along the margin of a bay:
Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they
Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:
A poet could not but be gay,
In such a jocund company:
I gazed—and gazed—but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:

For oft, when on my couch I lie
In vacant or in pensive mood,
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 04 - 12:31 AM

so, as we wander from baud to verse...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 04 - 12:34 AM

or should it be bawd to verse?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 06 May 04 - 03:55 AM

I'm not averse to some verse
except when i'm bored
it could be verse
I could be bawd
but when the verse gets worse
and turns to bawd
and when the bawdy turns to doggeral
its then that i bite the verse that fed me
and send that doggeral to buggeral..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:01 AM

For GUEST Corridus

Sneezles

Christopher Robin
Had wheezles
And sneezles,
They bundled him into
His bed.
They gave him what goes
With a cold in the nose,
And some more for a cold
In the head.
They wondered
If wheezles
Could turn
Into measles,
If sneezles
Would turn
Into mumps;
They examined his chest
For a rash,
And the rest
Of his body for swellings and lumps.
They sent for some doctors
In sneezles
And wheezles
to tell them what ought
To be done.
All sorts and conditions
Of famous physicians
Came hurrying round
At a run.
They all made a note
Of the state of his throat,
They asked if he suffered from thirst;
Tehy asked if the sneezles
Came after the wheezles,
Or if the first sneezle
Came first.
They said,"If you teazle
A sneezle
Or wheezle,
A measle
May easily grow.
But humour or pleazle
The wheezle
Or sneezle,
The measle
Will certainly go."
They expounded the reazles
For sneezles
And wheezles,
The manner of measles
When new.
They said, "If he freezles
In draughts and in breezles,
Then PHTHEEZLES
May even ensue."


Christopher Robin
Got up in the morning,
The sneezles had vanished away.
And the look in his eye
Seemed to say to the sky,
"Now how to amuse them today?"

A A Milne

JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:10 AM

Uh oh, this thread has become something actually worth reading!

Contribution for the day..(Time for my favorite quotation)

"To see a World in a Grain of Sand/ And Heaven in a Wild Flower/ Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand/ And Eternity in an hour.

                                        -William Blake

...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:57 AM

Poetry is
Only the
Evolution of
Thoughts,
Reading, in these words,
Your own.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:33 PM

Ellenpoly - you got mail

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:57 PM

I wandered lonely as a clod,
Picking up old rags and bottles.
When onward on my way I plod
I saw a host of axolotls.
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
A sight to make a man's blood freeze.

Alfred E Neuman - Mad Magazine

Now, having rescued this thread from near the bottom, in the words of Aunty Jack
if I can't be last in this thread "I'll rip yer bloody arms orf"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 06 May 04 - 11:03 PM

Catch me if you can! But better be able to swim a loooong way! And watch out for that giant penguin, too!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:51 AM

You know this is the perfect BS thread - we've devolved to citing poetry, which is songs without music!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 May 04 - 04:43 AM

Blackcatter, expect a lively debate about whether poetry is songs without music. I know some people, including my SO, who is a songwriter, who would loudly disagree.

Not me though. I don't really care. I just want to be last on this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:12 AM

Oh goody! A debate! That's something original, never have been done before on mudcat. But it probably wouldn't pan out, as we are all in such common agreement on every subject under the sun and a bit further out than that as well.

Thought for the day from archie (Don Marquis)

if you get gloomy just
take an hour off and sit
and think how
much better this world
is than hell
of course it won t cheer
you up much if
you expect to go there

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 May 04 - 06:30 AM

ah finally...Chicken Soup for the Mudcatted Soul

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:45 PM

All for the love of Mehitabel.
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 04 - 12:47 PM

Waaaah!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:08 PM

sigh

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 May 04 - 01:38 PM

Dedicated to Ellenpoly:

Shel Silverstein - APHRODISIAC

        
Now, listen to me, folks...
Hear what I say.
You got to eat oysters everyday
They'll put your love life back on track
They're nature's own aphrodisiac.

Ohh, ohhh... yes it's true
What a little oyster can do for you.
Ohh, ohhh... ain't it fun
Here's some things them oysters done...

They made Jim Beam
They made Allen Thick
They made Jonathan Swift
And they made Gracie Slick
They made Victor Mature
And they made Tom Petty
They started Willie Waylon
And they got Helen Reddy.
They made Tom Cruise
They made Oscar Wilde
They gave Gary Hart
But they gave Gomer Piles
They made William Hurt
They made Lucille Ball
They made Wilson Picket
And that ain't all.

Ohh, ohhh... yes it's true
What a little oyster can do for you.
Ohh, ohhh... ain't it fun
Here's some more them oysters done.

They made Stevie Wonder
And they made old John Wayne
They made Saul Bellow
And caused Thomas Paine
Turned Clint Black
And turned Barry White
Made Doris' Day
And Gladys' Knight.
They gave Bob Hope
They gave Percy Faith
They made Marvin Gaye
But they made George Straight
They made Bobby's Short
And Lester's Flatt
And hey... they even did more than that.

Ohh, ohhh... yes it's true
What a little oyster can do for you.
Ohh, ohhh... ain't it fun
Here's some more them oysters done.

They got George Bush
They made Bozo a Clown
They got Bobby Bare
And made Ezra Pound
They made Gallo Wine
They made Merle Haggart
They Made Andy Devine
They made Jimmy Swagger
They made Rich Little
And made Hughie Long
They made BB King
And they made Neil's Armstrong
And if you ask my wife,
She'll tell you quite gaily
Best of all they made old Pat Daily.

Ohh, ohhh... yes it's true
What a little oyster can do for you.
Ohh, ohhh... ain't it fun
That's all about oysters
Now we're done.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 04 - 07:50 PM

a song often needs the music to work- if merely read, it would not have the same impact as when sung. But a poem ( well, a good poem) should have the same impact read or sung ( or chanted).

There are many rhymes in songs that would never be acceptable in vers.

and "It doesn't matter if you throw a few extra syllables into a line."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 08 May 04 - 05:55 AM

Why thank you Blackcatter! I love oysters, by the by...though as pointed out by Lawrence Olivier in Spartacus, there's something to be said for snails..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 May 04 - 08:18 AM

they just work more slowly!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 May 04 - 08:19 AM

but in every thread someone has to be first, and you will see i have already made that thread. so i win. ha

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 May 04 - 09:09 AM

wrong battle
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 May 04 - 02:48 PM

s6k - You're a wunnerful person - but why not try to come up with an original idea?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 08 May 04 - 03:03 PM

true, how about, in every thread someone has to be 7th !

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 May 04 - 03:30 PM

I love the way they twitch when you sqeeze fresh lemon juice on them.
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 May 04 - 10:50 PM

I hope that last is in relation to snails, and not 7th postings in threads!

Time for another sonnet...

Sonnet 07/05/02      Bhean Sidhe    DCLXXXVIII

It was an odd noise that I heard, this night:
Not quite a scream, but far more than a gasp,
From moonless darkness, with no stars in sight.
What is this coldness, that my insides clasp?
Why do I weaken, hearing sound so far
Only the echo reaches ear, yet mind
Is twisted from intent? How can I bar
Gates of imagination, to wyrd bind?
I fall, boneless with fright, and sweat breaks out;
Bowels turn to water with despair. I weep,
To lose all. I maon, but cannot give shout
To more than whimper, nor my reason keep.
She passes, and I live! Yet dare not rise
For fear of seeing Death within her eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 09 May 04 - 06:29 AM

"that stern and
rockbound coast felt
like an amateur
when it saw how grim
the puritans that
landed on it were"

       (archie, AKA Don Marquis)

Cookie anyone?..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 May 04 - 03:31 PM

But I couldn't quit them if I want to

No - I don't wanna lose

I got the Oreo Cream Sandwich (now watch out)

Chocolate covered cream filled cookie

build by Nabisco - aint no rookies

Next best thing to nookie blues

Lonnie Mack's ode to Oreos (abridged to meet the three sentence limit I've placed on myself)
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 May 04 - 06:49 PM

ok, sonnets don't work... how about cookie recipes?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 May 04 - 07:58 PM

OK - it's on the site, but:

Junk Food Junkie

Junk Food Junkie
(Larry Groce)

You know I love that organic cooking,
I always ask for more.
And they call me Mr. Natural,
On down to the health food store.

I only eat good sea salt.
White sugar don't touch my lips.
And my friends is always begging me to take them
On macro-biotic trips.

Yes they are...

But at night I take out my strong box
That I keep under lock and key.
And I take it off to my closet
Where nobody else can see.
I open that lid so slowly,
take a peek up North and South.
Then I pull out a Hostess Twinkee*
And I pop it in my mouth.

In the daytime I'm Mr. Natural
Just as healthy as I can be.
But at night I'm a junk food junkie
Good lord have pity on me.

Yes sir...

At lunch time you can always find me
At the whole earth vitamin bar.
Just sucking on my plain white yogurt
From my hand grown pottery jar.

And sipping little hand pressed cider
With a carrot stick for dessert.
And wiping my face in a natural way
On the sleeve of my peasant shirt.

Yes I do...

Ahh But when that clock strikes midnight
And I'm all by myself
I work that combination
On my secret hide-away shelf.

And I pull out some Fritos corn chips,
Dr. Pepper and an old Moon pie.*
I sit back in glorious expectation
Of a genuine junk food high.

(chorus)

Here we go now...

My friends on down at the commune,
Well they think I'm pretty neat.
I don't know nothing about arts and crafts,
But I give them all something to eat.

I was a friend to ol' Eul Gibbons
And I only eat home grown spice.
Got a John Keats autographed Grecian urn
Filled up with my brown rice.

Yes I do...

Now folks, lately I have been spotted
With a Big Mac on my breath.*
Stumbling to a Colonel Sanders
With a face as white a death.

I'm afraid some day they'll find me
Just stretched out on my bed
With a handful of Pringles potato chips
And a Ding Dong by my head.*
(chorus)

*Registered Trade Mark

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Noddy
Date: 09 May 04 - 08:32 PM

It's not over yet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 May 04 - 08:57 PM

it never is.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 May 04 - 09:02 PM

Not even when the thread was closed, was it over.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 04 - 09:05 PM

You just can't keep a good thread down.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 09 May 04 - 09:07 PM

500 Big Ones. Beam me up, Mr Scott.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 10 May 04 - 03:16 AM

argh i hate you i wanted that post

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:28 AM

strange that I managed to post BEFORE I got back from Hols??

But hey it was the right style.

NOW I AM BACK

Great hols.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:29 AM

........ I put dots for there is no beginning
I put dots for there is no end...............

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 May 04 - 05:42 AM

"Octopusses, clams and eels
Take too much water with their meals;

While ants, upon the other hand,
Dine too exclusively on sand

One should be careful how he eats
Vegetables, fruits or meats.

Neither abstain too much, nor gobble 'em --
The proper course is quite a problem."

(Don Marquis yet again, this time AKA Don Marquis)

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 May 04 - 06:55 AM

you guys are making me hungry. what'll it be... a whole wheat spinach bagel or a twinkie...hummmm

(don't be holding your breath to hear the fat lady sing...i inadvertently played the cavalry on this thread once and I'm not about to let it fade into the sunset.)

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 04 - 10:55 AM

And today's word is...

tendentious

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:02 AM

elevendentures.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:09 AM

dentures

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:36 AM

Repent, sinner!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:39 AM

Are indentures teeth that are in?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 04 - 12:11 PM

Are debentures people who sit around in the park?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 May 04 - 12:17 PM

Triskedekaphobia!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Duane D.
Date: 10 May 04 - 12:31 PM

May I be last????

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 May 04 - 01:14 PM

Sure!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 May 04 - 03:27 PM

I was last in another thread, I posted, and it's the last one. Thread's been gone for days.
I WIN
John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Duane D.
Date: 10 May 04 - 03:53 PM

Perhaps we should answer all those single post unanswered threads.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:16 PM

debenture is a southern belle making a grand entrance.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:17 PM

Can we get her to come to song circle tonight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 10 May 04 - 07:28 PM

did imention dementia?

whadda mensch..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Noddy
Date: 11 May 04 - 11:49 AM

Goik you should not have said that some idiot will search under your name and just add to that thread just to annoy you.


Now who could that be???????

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 May 04 - 01:36 PM

Not just some idiot, but one who can't spell Giok.
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:05 PM

Maybe it was misspelled on purpose.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:12 PM

But Goik is a perfectly wonderful name as well!

There have been at least 10 thread where I have been the last poster.

What I'm trying to achieve is to not be the last poster here. PLEASE! someone post so I don't have to be!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:14 PM

Okay, no problem. I want the last word anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:15 PM

EVERYONE! Go to this thread:

Help - please vote for Millard Filmore

And vote.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:19 PM

Blackcatter, are you trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda on another thread?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:21 PM

YEP!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:02 PM

Sonnet 17/02/03                        DCCLXXXVII

If blood be price of empire, what's the cost
To stand aside, and let tyrants hold sway?
What moral ground remains, if we have lost
The will to stand firm and "No further!" say?
Can we ignore this danger to our lives,
Or risk our children's future? Is the threat
Of promised pain of no concern? Hate strives
To stop us: Will we all of past forget?
Do we hide from our duty, with the fear
That there might be a price to what is right?
We know what must be done: It may appear
That we can wait, but should we withhold might?
All evil needs to triumph is for good
To turn away and not do what it should.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:10 PM

beardedpoet .. nice sonnet but..

Iraqis were not involved in 9/11. they did not have weapons of mass destruction. the only thing we have to fear is demented politicians leading our countries into unnecessary wars. creating enemies is not the way to create a secure future for our children.

fred

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:19 PM

freda:

"Iraqis were not involved in 9/11. " Perhaps (not sufficient information available), but they were in violation of the ceasefire terms from the 1991 war. Korea was not involved, either, as far as I know- but if they violate the 1954 ceasefire, I would hope we do something.

"they did not have weapons of mass destruction." An incorrect statement. They did have such weapons, and used some on their own people. They were never able to show that they had destroyed the remainder, even under threat of invasion. All we did was give them enough time to move and/or hide them.

"the only thing we have to fear is demented politicians leading our countries into unnecessary wars." True- but which demented leaders? Those that take their oaths to defend the country seriously, or those that would rather stick their heads in the gorund and ignore potential threats?

"creating enemies is not the way to create a secure future for our children." True- but they were already our enemies. The way to create a secure future is to convert enemies to friends, or kill the enemies off.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:23 PM

oops. I forgot- another way is to just lie back and die. Very secure, but not for the ones dieing

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:27 PM

now, where were we..?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:31 PM

I think that I am here, and you are there...

btw, glad you like the sonnet... Title "To a Just War"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:36 PM

so far I like all your sonnets beardedbruce, you're a good writer.

i may be here, i think, therefore, I am!


and in this moment, that's my LAST WORDS!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:39 PM

Cogito cogitare, ergo cogito mei esse (pardon the spelling)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:54 PM

Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit ..


(I'm racking off..)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 May 04 - 10:38 PM

Copulo ergo sum

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 May 04 - 07:34 AM

don't you wish!

Cave!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:34 AM

Aut insanit homo, aut versus facit.


(the fellow is either mad, or he is composing verses.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:50 AM

another one of my great typos strikes again.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:06 AM

it would appear so

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:10 AM

typo makers of the cat unite.. its like a mutation in nature - you never know what will evolve out of it.. at the very least, a few laughs, at the most, with a little ogransaition, we could rlue the werld!

freda

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:13 AM

....and then we might have whirled peas....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:16 AM

LoL

that would be somethnig!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:16 PM

trolling for ogres is an excellent pasttime for goats of all sizes.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:27 PM

"I copulate, therefore I am." LOL! What a great philosophical statement. It's a neat summation of the state of mind of a young man aged, say, 17 to 25....or of a billy goat or a male rabbit.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:58 PM

Give you thanks to Malcolm Muggeridge He coined it in Esquire 1970.







Dubito, ergo credo.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 May 04 - 10:58 PM

Sonnet 07/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVII

The roses blush, to find themselves outdone
By your sweet smile. How can they hope to show
Even a tithe of hope my dreams have won?
How can I roses worthy of muse grow?
Even my dreams fail to these feelings tell,
That you give cause for hope to want to live.
You send reason to look ahead, and spell
That heals my soul, to all of past forgive.
In dream I hold you, when I cannot reach
To touch, or keep you warm: Am I a fool,
To give my dreams such power? Will they teach
A heart that yearns for passion to stay cool?
I do not think dreams will desires rein in,
Yet I cannot think that to love is sin.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 13 May 04 - 04:30 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....oops! Did I miss anything?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 May 04 - 04:33 AM

I think I have been insulted....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 May 04 - 07:00 AM

you snooze you looze
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 04 - 09:07 AM

Unless it's a rest you really need.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 04 - 01:03 PM

No one would dare be the last on this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 May 04 - 01:54 PM

I thought The Vicar of Bray was a weathercock!!
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 13 May 04 - 08:07 PM

In honor of the two bald eagles that visited my little corner of the world:

The Eagle

He clasps the crag with crooked hands;
Close to the sun in lonely lands,
Ringed with the azure world, he stands.

The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls;
He watches from his mountain walls,
And like a thunderbolt he falls.

--Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 14 May 04 - 03:31 AM

No snub intended, beardedbruce...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 May 04 - 07:07 AM

did you know that bald eagle nests can be up to 2.5metres in diameter and over 3 metres deep?

try crawling out of that if you're a fledgling!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 14 May 04 - 07:23 AM

still trying to be someone.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:02 PM

Ellenpoly:

Good to hear that... But this post might put you sleep.

It seems that my attempts to kill this thread off with (bad) verse are not as successful as I would like- Thus, I must escalate.


Sonnet Redouble, to Katie Elizabeth


My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
And hold to source of dream? You are the cause
Of my desires, a vision that gives start
To words of my emotion. Shall I pause
From caring, when I hear only the wind?
Can dream replace the touch of lips, or line
Hold you as arms desire? Can heart rescind
All feelings, or chance of your love decline?
You are the center of my dreams, the core
That defines structure of desire: You lend
The form, to fill my fantasy, and more,
You offer focus, to emotions bend.
How can I find this hope, that dreams require,
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?

To tell of my concerns, and my desire,
Seems beyond power that mere words contain.
You are one who more than just dreams inspire:
Can my heart's hope more than soft smile obtain?
All vision fades, with distance: Can I see
Beyond my own desires? You are the light
To show image of what dreams hope to be;
The source of brightness that to hope is sight.
Will muse be all I seek, when I reach out
To touch your fire? Can lips not seek to kiss
Your palm, forehead, and neck, and try to scout
Where I might offer pleasure, and earn bliss?
Desire feeds dreams, and passion forms my art:
Can longing be enough to future start?

Can longing be enough to future start
When I have sought for muse too many years?
Having found you, how could I think to part
From vision that guards me from past's cold tears?
Can I hold back from love, when your smiles send
Desire to warm my heart? Shall I not care
If I might please you, or let words pretend
I do not suffer when you sadness share?
Can I be more than poet, to hold muse
Within both arms and thought? Shall verse remain
My goal, or should I deeper passions choose,
When night allows desire to hopes explain?
Though you give light to dream, and verse inspire,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?

Can dream be all to which I might aspire
When vision fills each night, and day? I seek
For happiness: What god would heart require
As tithe to future that only seems bleak?
Can passion be contained, controlled, or bound
By reason and by sense? Can desire burn
Without some warmth, and will my hopes be found
To hold only to dreams mere friendships earn?
Can longing be ignored, and set aside?
Can I not breath, nor feel, nor let mind think?
Would I be able to from my heart hide
All that I hope, and dream, to darkness sink?
Though more than my desire and source of rhyme,
I have no claim upon your heart, or time.

I have no claim upon your heart, or time
To build more fantasy upon your smile.
You embody desire, but can hope mime
Reality, that dream might future style?
You remain goal, beyond heart's hope to reach
Yet too dear to be set aside, or locked
Inside, unsaid. Will dream be brought to teach
Pleasure, or will all hopes by fact be mocked?
All that I hope, I owe to thought of you.
Your smile illuminates my dreams, your eyes
Reach to my soul, and offer heart what few
Have sent: A dream, of love that fate defies.
I offer heart and mind, to pay dream's fee:
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.

Though I may seek for soul, you remain free
To ask for what you will: I'll not deny
My muse all that I have, nor would I be
Unwilling to all of your desires try.
You guide my dreams, and steer my hopes in ways
That excite my desires: How can I mask
How much I want to hold you? Can dream raise
My hopes enough that I might desires ask?
I do not think you need my love, but know
I require what concern hope might yet send.
My dreams are fragile, formed in heart, and show
More of desires than Truth reasons defend.
Should I think that to seek for love is crime?
Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime?

Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime
With passion? Would my hopes give heart a chance,
Without some sign to show you care, to climb
From depths of dark despair to sweet romance?
I want far more than glance, but know I hold
No key, to chain you to my dreams. Yet, dream
Would wrap arms around you, to warmth enfold:
I cannot deny that in heart I scheme.
I desire chance to show how much I care,
Beyond desire: All dreams center on you.
Shall I offer my heart, or can I dare
To ask if I might your smile try to view?
I know I have no hope to from hope flee:
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?

Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea
To give reason for hopes, or make dreams real?
Will thought become true deed, or heart agree
It will in future only pleasures feel?
My hopes, and heart, cannot ignore your eyes,
Nor keep desires to what is within reach.
Yet, should I refuse dream that otherwise
Gives joy? Should I but bitter thoughts beseech?
All reason flees: I chase moonbeams, and seek
For vision seen only within my mind.
What can I say, that would fantasy speak,
That could alter the world, to desire find?
How can I hope deny, or passions fight:
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light.

You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Bringing a hope of heaven, and a touch
Of subtle passion to echoes of night.
How can my dreams of you remain as such?
I search your words, for image, and for hint
Of what might make you smile, or how to bend
Your dreams to thought of me. Eyes need no tint
To see what soul desires, to my heart mend.
I see what heart desires, but am I blind,
Looking at light too bright? I do not know
How I might filter out my dreams, or find
If hope is lust, or deeper passion's glow.
You remain muse, that heart can't set aside;
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.

Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide
To realms of dream, and of desire, you bring
Light to my darkness. Can my heart abide
Without some thought of your soft smile seeking?
Dear one, is future preordained, that all
My hopes are less than dust? I dare not hold
To such a faith: I would to heaven call
And ask for dispensation, to dreams mold.
Can vision torn from dream be true, or show
More than my fondest wish? Can my heart care
Less for itself than that you passions know?
How can I dream, when you all my dreams snare?
Without a chance to kiss, or hold you tight,
How can I know if my concern is right?

How can I know if my concern is right
When all I hold are dreams? Can heart discern
What you would have me do? Can words invite
Hope beyond dream, or give heart chance to learn?
How can I hope to offer more than wit,
When I share only words? Can care remain
Within, hidden from life, without a bit
Of dream escaping to my hopes explain?
How can I care so much for one, unseen,
Beyond all hope of passion? Can I hold
My heart from love, when all that hope can glean
From dream is that time does not make one old?
What hope have I to future dream decide,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?

To tell if words should hope display, or hide
All feelings, heart must find a path to lead
Out of my dreams. Yet, would I turn aside
For fear heart might lose something that I need?
How can I deny dreams, or hope refuse,
When without thought of you my nights are cold?
My dreams bring joy, since I found you, my muse;
How can I let your effect be untold?
I wear heart on my sleeve: You are the maid
I hold as Lady Muse, but should I try
To be more than just friend? Hopes do not fade
With time, but can my heart to sense reply?
Heart seeks to show your colours, and dreams rule:
I do not know if I am knight, or fool.

I do not know if I am knight, or fool
To care for you, when I can't hope to reach
Beyond desire. I cannot think you cruel,
Though I might wish far more than rhyme to teach:
You are one I desire, but more, I care
That you are happy, and future enjoy.
What should I do? Can words hope to repair
Your dreams? How can I past demons destroy?
You know I seek to have you laugh, and smile,
Though I might want to hold you, and to kiss
Forehead, and palm, and lips. Might I dream, while
I remain distant? Is concern remiss?
I do not know if I should dream o'errule;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Whether to offer heart, or passions cool
Remains beyond decision. Dream is all
I have: I cannot desire for you school
Out of my dreams, nor out of longing fall.
Yet, dare I ask to fulfill dreams, or tell
How I might offer passion for your night?
I care too much to risk breaking this spell
You hold me in, that fills my dreams with light.
Reason requires that heart be held in check,
But desires control dreams, and hope. I long
To whisper in your ear, and nibble neck,
But do not know if action would be wrong.
I offer heart, and soul, and all of art:
My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart?

My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?
Can longing be enough to future start,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?
I have no claim upon your heart, or time;
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.
Can I ask for a smile to my dreams prime?
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.
How can I know if my concern is right,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?
I do not know if I am knight or fool;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:07 PM

Oh no, beardedbruce, I like this long poem, really I do..
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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:13 PM

Not to worry- Having completed one Sonnet Redouble, it is unlikely I will write another... Way too much effort for something no-one ever reads all the way through.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 May 04 - 12:18 PM

Bloody Hell!!! You are a sick man, beardedbruce. That is the most interminable lot of tripe I have ever tried to read. It begins nowhere goes nowhere and ends nowhere...then returns to its starting place and does it all over again. It is a mobius strip of maudlin excess that numbs the mind and petrifies the soul. The man who wrote it should have been thrown naked into a pit of famished chihauhaus.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 04:31 PM

Thank you. Good criticism is so hard to find.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 04:42 PM

Little Hawk:
"It is a mobius strip of maudlin excess that numbs the mind and petrifies the soul."

Well, I think THIS might deserve that comment a little more...

A Dark Corona

What vision can I hold, when dreams are dark
And chill creeps into soul? How can I see
If future offers reason, or might be
Enough to some image of hope lend spark?
Yet, shall I think that past would not leave mark
Upon a weary soul? Will darkness hide
The scars of heart that to dead dreams are tied?
Can any shroud cover a wound so stark?
My soul in silence dwells: I hear no muse
To offer song, nor to receive my heart.
What passions might I hold, when heart is bound
In cold and silent tomb? Can hope refuse
To fade, when all is grim? How can dream start
When only shadows in the night are found?

When only shadows in the night are found
To fill my dreams, how can I hope to know
A reason to go on? Desire might show
Image to heart, but silence has heart bound
To dark despair: All of delight is ground
Into the dust. Yet, should I try to light
My dreams, when hope brings me such pain? How right
To think of muse, when no replies resound?
Should I care for the past? It matters more
Than I might say: My muse remains a part
Of soul. I cannot longing for muse end.
I do not dare forget her, or ignore
All that was never said: Dream offered art
Far more than I might in my verses send.

Far more than I might in my verses send,
I give concern. I worry still, but fear
Heart cannot hope to hold past muse as dear
As I desire: Regrets darken hope's end.
I wake to find no dawn; Pale stars pretend
To light cold night, but vision cannot tell
Between gray thought, and black. Will my mind dwell
On loss, or hope to future hopes defend?
I care, but cannot alter fact: My dreams
Have little value to my muse. I seek
What will not be, that desires might not fade.
It matters not: The desire I held seems
Beyond all thought. I cannot make muse speak:
No power I control can passions aid.

No power I control can passions aid.
To hold to muse: Heart seeks for voice in vain
Without bright dreams. How can I hope obtain
From silence? Yet, can my desire be made
To change, or bend? Shall I think that heart paid
Such price for transience? I cannot bear
That it is for illusion that I care:
How can I heart's desire for phantoms trade?
Ghosts fill the darkness: Memories now dead,
But free to roam my dreams. I do not fear
What was: Future alone frightens heart's night.
I cannot forget what past words I've said,
Nor regret one concern, or wish, or tear:
Why can I not find muse to bring dream light?

Why can I not find muse to bring dream light
And end this silence? Do I ask for more
Than might be wise? Did I some god ignore,
That Heaven withholds what could make heart right?
What crime condemns me, that I cared? How might
I earn reprieve, or pardon? I regret
Only those words unsaid, that I have let
All hope depart, by not holding muse tight.
All passions pass, but I do not seek grave
For my desires: I prize even the tears
The memory of smile recalls to mind.
Yet, memory alone does not dream save
From bitter night. Should I look to spend years
Waiting for end, with all my visions blind?

Waiting for end with all my visions blind,
Echoes remain, to fill the empty hours
With illusion of life. Does past hold powers
To control dreams and thought, or with hope bind
Dark night to all desires? Can I not find
Some path for future muse to alter fate?
What might my heart resolve, that hope would wait
In silence? Do echoes of muse remind?
The chill seeps in my bones: I ache, to try
To move my heart from past. Nothing remains,
But I am loathe to leave this tear-filled grave.
When shall I forsake dreams, and know hopes die?
How can heart binding burst? Let these tear stains
Be all that I recall, and all dreams save.

Be all that I recall, and all dreams save
From dark concern: I cannot ask for less,
Nor more. I can only concern confess,
That muse matters to heart. Is silence brave,
To keep me blind? Had muse one reason gave
I'd accept fate, but in silence I hear
Only the absence: Hope does not appear,
And all attempts to know have left me knave.
I wish muse only well, but wish she'd say
Some word of what transpired: Must I believe
That all past conversations were but lark?
I cannot forget past, nor future sway,
But present gives me only cause to grieve:
What vision can I hold, when dreams are dark?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 04:47 PM

... as we go from bad to verse...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 May 04 - 04:55 PM

omigod! even my mouse went to sleep!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 05:00 PM

42:
"even my mouse went to sleep!"

Hmm... I guess the last poem is a failure, if the mouse didn't jump off the desk and hang itself...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 14 May 04 - 05:36 PM

ask not what your country can do for you, ask for money

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 04 - 07:07 PM

why? Will they give me any?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 14 May 04 - 08:45 PM

No, but someone else might.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 14 May 04 - 08:50 PM

no they wont

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 14 May 04 - 08:55 PM

Sure, they will. As PT Barnum once said: "there's a sucker born every minute."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Pogo
Date: 14 May 04 - 09:57 PM

Now this is the true end of the thread because it has come full circle back to its beginning...therefore any posts that follow it are irrelevant and rendered null and void! bahahaha >:OP

'Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who will it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

- LH '

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 15 May 04 - 05:59 AM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...Huh, wha?? Did someone write something important??...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 May 04 - 06:59 AM

Greenland's icy mountains and the island's entire ice cap could disappear in the next 1,000 years because of global warming, European scientists warn today. If the annual average increase in temperature reached 2.7C above the present rate, then melting of the icecap would begin.If that occurs sea levels will rise by seven metres, drowning low-level coastlines around the world. Greenland is covered by the biggest ice sheet in the northern hemisphere: almost 772,000 square miles of ice which is up to 1.9 miles thick, the base of which is below sea level.

The greater the warming, the faster the snow melts. The worst-case predictions for Greenland, made by an intergovernmental panel of scientists, involve an average warming of 8C (46F). There are already signs of consistent melting in Greenland. Researchers reported in 1999 that the ice sheet was thinning by about a metre a year.

The latest research confirms the picture of an increasingly mild polar world. Alaskan glaciers are in retreat. The Arctic Ocean icepack has thinned by more than 30% in the past three decades and has been shrinking by an area equivalent to the Netherlands each year during the same period. If warming continues by the end of the century the Arctic could be free of ice altogether during summer months, British scientists predict.

www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1188079,00.html

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 May 04 - 07:06 AM

Somethings generating too much hot air!
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 May 04 - 07:40 AM

thought it was time for a complete change in here Giok - things were getting a little stuffy.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 May 04 - 07:49 AM

change for change's sake is not always creative or productive. perhaps I will be last!!!!

j

'cause i'm younger than LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 15 May 04 - 08:58 AM

then again, perhaps not

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 May 04 - 10:10 AM

but not least

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 May 04 - 10:40 AM

at least i've lasted the last lost lesson.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 04 - 11:25 AM

Sonnet 05/01/03                        DCCLXXIII

I have had little time to dream, or spend
In thought of my desires. I now concern
My moments with just getting by: I bend
My hopes to thought of how to living earn.
I have had no reason to smile, or think
I might find happiness, or seek for joy.
This season I find bitter past to drink,
That one I cared for would my dreams destroy.
I have had tears for cold, cruel silence, lost
Illusions, and dead dreams, but have not found
That salt pleases my taste. Are dreams the cost
For desire to have to sweet muse been bound?
Past gives no future, and I cannot see
How dead desires might ever come to be.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 04 - 12:05 PM

freda:

So, the little ice age ( since the 12th century) is finally coming to an end. The Viking colony can be re-established in Greenland, and as for the coasts being flooded, that would clean up a number of major urban areas. Of course, it would be far better to bring all that ice down to the Sahara region, and try to restore the man-made desert ( caused by goats overgrazing). That might change the politics of the region, though.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 04 - 01:11 PM

Mild, isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 04 - 01:19 PM

rather hot, here in the DC area...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 04 - 03:06 PM

btw.... "average warming of 8C (46F)."

Though I may be a rocket scientist, I don't understand these numbers...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 May 04 - 05:55 PM

things were getting a little stuffy.

How about things were getting a little stiffy?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 May 04 - 06:14 PM

Here's a little bit of Florida history for you - having to do with dueling and revenge!

----

Some people know that Orange County, Florida was called Mosquito County originally, but few know of Leigh Read County.

The renaming of Mosquito County to Leigh Read County begins with the story of the man, Leigh Read, and the circumstances of his life.

Leigh Read was born around the year 1800, possibly in Georgia. We don't quite know when he moved to Florida, but it probably sometime in the mid 1820s. In 1835 he enlisted as an officer in the Florida Militia at the beginning of the Second Seminole Indian War (1835-1842). He was wounded at the battle of Withlacoochee on December 31, 1835.

In 1836, based on his bravery under fire and his wounds, Read was recommended to President Andrew Jackson (and former governor of territorial Florida) to become the Brigadier General of the 1st Brigade of Florida Militia. This recommendation was made by the territorial governor of Florida, Richard K. Call.

President Jackson accepted the recommendation. Brigadier General Read took command of the 1st Brigade on September 10, 1836. The Brigade was ordered into service by Governor Call to aid the cause against the Seminole Indians in Central and South Florida. Read held command until January 5, 1837.

After completing his military service, Read settled in Tallahassee and married Eliza Branch, daughter of John Branch who would become Florida's last territorial governor (1844-1845). Read became a leader of the Florida Democratic Party as well as an official of the Territorial Council of Florida.

In 1837, Read was working in Tallahassee with the convention charged with the task of passing "An Act to call a Convention for the purpose of organizing a State Government." That act was passed in 1938. The result of this work was the Constitutional Convention of 1838, which set Florida on its journey to statehood seven years later.

During Florida's territorial years its capital, Tallahassee, was a wild and generally lawless town. One of Tallahassee's mayors, the reform-oriented Francis Eppes (grandson of Thomas Jefferson), described the town's Marion Race Course "A hotbed of vice, intemperance, gambling and profanity." He held that the rest of the town was little better. And Ralph Waldo Emerson, after a visit to the capital, called Tallahassee "A grotesque place of land speculators and desperados."

One of the hottest topics of public debate in the territory at that time was the issue connected with the banks. The Panic of 1837 soured many people on banks because of their questionable investments and subsequent loss of money which meant they could (and did) close their doors. In the debates of the bank issue the Whig Party were pro-banking while the Democrats were anti-banking. Leigh Read, as a leader of Florida's Democratic Party was anti-banking, and therefore was quite literally a target for leaders of the Whig Party.

In 1839, two Whig leaders sought to attack Leigh Read by challenging Read to duel concerning arguments over bank reform. One was William Tradewell. Read declined both challenges though he was heard to say that if he had to fight anyone, it would be the Whig's "Bulldog" himself - Augustus Alston.

Augustus Alston was born in Georgia in 1805. He was part of an influential and politically oriented family. An uncle of his - Willis Alston - was a member of the North Carolina House of Commons and U.S. Representative from North Carolina. Augustus, himself was a member of Georgia State House of Representatives. Augustus had two sisters and two brothers (Gideon and Willis). The Alston family was a prosperous planter family that moved to Florida around 1830 after purchasing large amounts of farmland between the Georgia border and Tallahassee. The made their home near Miccosukee. It was known that the Alston family had a great interest in weaponry and possessed a rare collection of dueling pistols.

Soon after moving to Florida, Gideon Alston and a family friend stepped outside the Alston house to test two old pistols. Only the friend returned. He explained that he had accidentally discharged his weapon and Gideon had been killed. The family supposedly accepted the story. However a few months later the friend was reported lost in a storm at sea and was never heard from again.

Around 1835, Willis Alston moved to Texas. That same year Augustus Alston joined the Florida Militia and became a colonel. After his service, he became a leader in the Florida Whig Party.

Augustus Alston was urged by his friends to challenge Read to a duel. He did so and Read, reportedly to the surprise of many, accepted the challenge. It was said that from that day on, Read was a doomed man. He was only a casual user of firearms - mostly connected with his military service - while Alston was well known to be a well-practiced shot.

The duel took place early in the morning on December 12, 1839. As the confident Alston left his home on his way to the duel, he instructed his wife and sisters to prepare a victory banquet for his return.

The duel was pre-determined to be "to the death" and Read, being the one who accepted the challenge was allowed to chose the type of weapons the two would use. He chose Jaeger rifles. This particular rifle was considered one of the most deadly at such short range because of its large caliber, and it also had a hair trigger. Read probably chose the weapon because it was most like the guns he used in the militia and with which he was most comfortable.

The two men walked the proscribed ten paces and wheeled around to face each other. Eyewitnesses reported that somehow Alston accidentally discharged his gun before he could raise it and aim. He then clutched the rifle to his breast as Read aimed and fired. The ball shattered through Alston's rifle trigger and hit Alston squarely in the chest and fell dead.

While the duel was considered fair by the observers and most others who heard the details, Alston's sisters called it murder since Alston fired before he could aim. His sisters took the lead ball that killed their brother, had it recast and sent to their brother Willis in Texas, demanding that he avenge his brother's death. This was known publicly, so from then on, Read chose to stay armed at all times.

In 1840 Read was elected speaker of the Florida Territorial Legislature. On the evening of January 6, 1840, he was entertaining friends at the traditional Speaker's Ball at the City Hotel. A tall figure, wearing a long cloak and hat pulled down over his face entered and strode toward Read. It was Willis Alston who had returned from Texas. He pulled a Bowie knife and lunged at Read. Read was able to pull his gun and fired. He grazed Willis' hand, but did not stop him. The two struggled until partygoers pulled them apart. Neither man was badly injured. Willis Alston left the event and dropped out of sight.

Over a year later, in the spring of 1841 Willis Alston arranged to stay with a friend, Michael Ledwith, in Tallahassee. It was common knowledge that Read often walked passed Ledwith's house, so Alston waited with a double-barreled shotgun. On April 27, 1841, Read and a friend were strolling past the house. Alston came out and from behind, shot Read in the back. It seriously wounded him but he was able to turn around to face his attacker. He was not able to get his gun out before Alston came up even closer and fired the second cartridge into Read's face. Read died instantly.

Alston was arrested and jailed but later escaped, due primarily to political influence and approximately $30,000 in bribes. He fled to Brazoria, Texas.

In Brazoria, Dr. Stewart, a Brazoria resident and also a former resident of Tallahassee who knew Leigh Read and knew of the murder found out that Alston was in the same town. Stewart shared with people that he was incensed that Read's killer lived near him. Alston learned of Stewart's comments and wrote them down on paper. One day, the two met on horseback and Alston handed Stewart the paper and asked the doctor if he did make the remarks. As a reply, Stewart got off his horse, drew his gun and shot Alston in the stomach. Although seriously wounded, Alston was able to pull his shotgun and fire point-blank at Stewart. The Doctor Fell dead.

Willis Alston once again found himself in jail for murder. One night a servant, who visited him, secreted a length of rope, wrapped around his body, into the jail. The rope was supposed to be part of an escape plan. Alston never got to use it, however, for later that same night, friends of Dr. Stewart stormed the jail, overpowered the Marshall and dragged Alston outside and fired a volley of bullets into him. This killed the last of the Alston brothers.

It took many more years before the duel became truly outlawed in Florida.

The next year, 1842, both houses of the territorial legislature passed a bill changing the name of Mosquito County to Leigh Read County. The name change was never official however. The bill was never submitted to the governor and therefore never signed into law. It was probably done as a measure of respect and never intended for it to become law. By the time Florida achieved Statehood three years later, Mosquito County had regained its name and would soon receive its third and final name: Orange.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 04 - 07:13 PM

KisP.... but not sure how I can utilize this...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 May 04 - 08:42 PM

Austria claims to have invented tartan kilts

Tartan kilts have become fashionable in Austria after archaeologists claimed the country invented them. Many Austrian stores are now selling "traditional Austrian" kilts and sporrans as well as lederhosen.

The Austrian claim is based on the discovery of what they claim is the oldest piece of tartan in the world. Thomas Rettl, whose clothing company is based close to where scraps from the original Celtic kilt were found, said: "Ever since we found out that Austria was the true home to tartan we have been doing a roaring trade.

"It was found not in Scotland but in a place called Molzbichl in Carinthia in Austria. The Celts who conquered Scotland originally came from Europe, which would back our claim to have had the kilt first. The tartan sample found in Austria was dated to at least 320 years BC - over 1,600 years earlier than the oldest Scottish tartan which was made in 1,300 AD."

Mr Rettl said armed with the knowledge that the kilt was actually Austria's traditional costume, he and his fellow Austrian tailors had decided to make a kilt and since then many others had copied the trend.

"We worked with a Scottish firm in the Borders to get the necessary expertise but the kilt is an Austrian design and we use the best materials from around the world - our kilts are better quality than many in Scotland.

"The success of the Carinthian kilt in particular has surprised even me. I am hoping to sell more in Scotland as well and in recognition of our shared Celtic past with the Scots I am making a deer leather kilt - a mixture of a tartan cloth and a pair of lederhosen."

The Scottish Tartans Authority says it's not in the least bit surprising that traces of tartan were found in Austria.

Brian Wilton said the oldest tartan authenticated was found in China 500 years before the time of Tutankhanum.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 15 May 04 - 08:46 PM

Thank you, Blackcatter. It was going to be a day that ended without a new bit of knowledge, until now. I try to avoid knowledgeless days, and you never know when some little factoid might win you lots of money on Jeopardy!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 15 May 04 - 10:06 PM

what- EVERRRRR!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 May 04 - 10:33 PM

me
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 May 04 - 11:43 PM

I think you forgot the first part of that, 42...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 May 04 - 11:44 PM

You're welcome Ranger

The life & death of Leigh Read proves you don't have to write fiction to hear a remarkable story. So many people don't know that Florida was one of the biggest frontiers that the U.S. ever "tamed." The Seminole Indian wars were the longest and most costly Indian wars the U.S. ever fought. Over 300 forts were built throughout the territory/state.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 May 04 - 06:59 AM

if I'd forgotten anything I would have typed "you" LH
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 16 May 04 - 08:14 AM

No they don't just don't post unlike me HAHAHA

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 16 May 04 - 09:53 AM

sorry but this has to be done...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 16 May 04 - 09:53 AM

what has to be done?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 16 May 04 - 09:53 AM

post number 600 !!! i thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 04 - 09:57 AM

you are welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 May 04 - 10:19 AM

Geez, is this thing still around?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 04 - 10:48 AM

no, it is athread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 16 May 04 - 11:43 AM

rofl

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 04 - 02:37 PM

time for another sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 04 - 04:24 PM

Every day there are news reports about more deaths. Every night on TV there
are photos of death and destruction. Why are we still there?

We occupied this land, which we had to take by force, but it causes us
nothing but trouble. Why are we still there?

Many of our children go there and never come back. Why are we still there?


Their government is unstable, and they have loopy leadership. Why are we
still there?


Many of their people are uncivilized. Why are we still there?


The place is subject to natural disasters, which we are supposed to bail
them out of. Why are we still there?


There are more than 1000 religious sects, which we do not understand. Why
are we still there?


Their folkways, foods and fads are unfathomable to ordinary Americans. Why
are we still there?


We can't even secure the borders. Why are we still there?


They are billions of dollars in debt and it will cost billions more to
rebuild, which we can't afford. Why are we still there?


It is becoming clear...

















WE MUST PULL OUT OF CALIFORNIA!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 16 May 04 - 07:48 PM

Sounds like californius interuptus to me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 May 04 - 09:59 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! I agree. Pull out of at least southern California at once. But keep the northern part. It's quite attractive.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 16 May 04 - 11:37 PM

Pulling out of So Cal would leave a salty mess (the Salton Sea) and a bit of a "gap" - the Gulf of Mexico. . .

Would that make the San Gabriel Mountains a sort of a diaphram or sponge?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:11 AM

But it never rains in Southern California!
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:23 AM

Well, there are the annual mudslides which attempt to cleanse the Pacific coast of wealthy people.

And of course, the Colorado river (which means reddish) trickles down to the Gulf . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Mickey
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:08 AM

There is obviously some kind of honour/status or at least reason for wanting to be last on a thread...I am sure I will not be!!!!! but being new to this, I would not want to be in this competitive, repetitive and apparently immature attempt (particularly by certain people who appear regularly in the list) at being last in the thread.
I wish all of you people who keep coming back to this waste of time....the best of luck....the person who started it will certainly gain some kudos for the length of the thread which is great!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:19 AM

confucius he say: i win

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:20 AM

well guest mickey - that leaves more space for us what likes it.
ps. Why did California fall into the sea?

It was San Andreas' Fault.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:56 AM

Did You Know...
If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee.

(Hardly seems worth it.)

If you farted consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb.

(Now that's more like it!)

The human heart creates enough pressure when it pumps out to the body to squirt blood 30 feet.

(O.M.G.!)


A pig's orgasm lasts 30 minutes.

(In my next life, I want to be a pig.)


A cockroach will live nine days without its head before it starves to death. (Creepy.)

(I'm still not over the pig.)


Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

(Do not try this at home. Maybe at work.)


The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the male's head off.

("Honey, I'm home. What the....?!")

The flea can jump 350 times its body length. It's like a human jumping the length of a football field.

(30 minutes... lucky pig. can you imagine??)


The catfish has over 27,000 taste buds.

(What could be so tasty on the bottom of a pond?)


Some lions mate over 50 times a day.

(I still want to be a pig in my next life...quality over quantity)

Butterflies taste with their feet.

(Something I always wanted to know.)

The strongest muscle in the body is the tongue.

(Hmmmmmm........)

Right-handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left-handed people.

(If you're ambidextrous, do you split the difference?)


Elephants are the only animals that cannot jump.

(OK, so that would be a good thing....................)

A cat's urine glows under a black light.

(I wonder who was paid to figure that out?)

An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain.

(I know some people like that.)

Starfish have no brains.

(I know some people like that too.)

Polar bears are left-handed.

(If they switch, they'll live a lot longer.)


Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure.

(goats??)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:45 AM

Thank you, Freda. But I continue to hope that the heart is the strongest, at least in total work over time.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:47 AM

What????? I don't believe that thing about the pig. Where did you get it? I don't see how any living creature could survive a 30 minute orgasm. I would want to try 1 minute orgasms first, then work my way up to 5 minute ones, and so on...before I went for the big 30. Sounds really dangerous to me.

How can you tell that a pig is having a 30 minute orgasm anyway? The pig might be faking.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:54 AM

Agghhhhh I'm last!!!! for a short while as has everyone who contributed!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 May 04 - 01:30 PM

well . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:25 PM

a deep subject... but never mind.

I agree about NoCal- but who gets to draw the line where we break SoCal off?

I remember back in the 80's when they found that the crustal motion was stopped along the San Andreas... from 8cm/year to zero. Lots of concern over a BIG quake, but... Someday, we might actually understand this planet.

And I thought we each only got 15 minutes of fame?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:28 PM

Freda, is that the male or the female pig? And if the female, does she get to have multiples?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 02:34 PM

Sonnet 27/03/04                            CM

Be mine, sweet muse, that I might hold you near
And not think that I must soon let you go.
I want you in my arms: Should I make clear
How much I want your love? Words do not show
All that you mean, nor how heart aches to feel
The touch of skin, and warmth of my desire.
I long to trace all of your curves, to seal
All of you into heart, and dreams inspire.
Could lips tell more than pen? I would kiss try
To longings speak: How could I passions hold
From life, and action? Could dreams hope to fly
To one who all of dreams has to heart told?
You are the one that heart would passions give,
But can I tell of hopes, and let dreams live?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 May 04 - 04:57 PM

Hey, I want to know more about the 30 minute orgasm! What the hell is wrong with the rest of you people, rambling on about other unimportant stuff? 30 minute orgasms could utterly transform the World as we know it and probably bring an end to war. Get with the program here. Talk about the Big Bang! Man, I just can't think about anything else now that I heard about this. Even if it's only half accurate, that would still add up to 15 minute orgasms, and that ain't shabby!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 05:09 PM

Yes, but if the requirement is that you be a pig......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 May 04 - 05:54 PM

I duno - I'm pretty exausted after my regular length - 30 minutes might kill me (but what a way to go).

The real question is do they enjoy it? For some animals (the femal cat., for example) an orgasm happens only when triggered by pain (and one could argue the mantis is a similar event). Seems like to me that pigs like rolling around in mud a hell of a lot more than shagging.



As for California - Southern California will never slip of into the ocean because of tectonic action. All it will do is slowly move up the coast with LA and San Fran eventually being twin cities thousands of years form now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:04 PM

30 minutes once... vs 30 seconds how many times?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:55 PM

in a pig's eye!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:03 AM

...there is beauty to be seen...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 04 - 10:00 AM

to be seen, or to be obscene?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 10:05 AM

Just got back online since whenever and read your California piece, beardedbruce...FUNNY!

I had a friend who many years ago was talked into buy several acres of land in Arizona, on the promise that it would soon be worth more, when it became seafront property.

He's still waiting..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 18 May 04 - 10:42 AM

you know, I'm suspicious of love poems - or any poems - that have the word "I" in them too often.
..and poems that go for 30 minutes......


but for any woman who has multiple orgasms, 30 minutes is usual.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 04 - 11:00 AM

Sonnet 24/01/02                        DCL

A sonnet is a frozen tear, a kiss,
Preserved in fourteen lines. It is a pearl
Of layered thought, a gem too bright to miss
When set on page: One blossom, to unfurl
To perfect flower. As amber, sealed soul
In timeless tomb, it can show time long past,
Or hold this instant in it's grasp. The whole
Of heart upon one single page, to last
Beyond even our dreams, it seems a sip,
Distilled to essence. Refined within mind,
Lines sing sweet song, and rhymes in patterns slip,
To weave image that leaves mere vision blind.
A single chord, to resound in one's heart:
Echo of past that might our future start.


Not an I in sight.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 18 May 04 - 11:03 AM

an I for an I...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 04 - 11:07 AM

the I of the beholder? Or the beheld?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:43 PM

Hey Elen - don't forget that Arizona is the proud owner of the London Bridge. Who needs the sea when you have that!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:47 PM

Blackcatter, you know that guy who bought the London Bridge? He thought he was buying the much more interesting Tower Bridge, but ended up instead with just a very plain old bridge. He would have done better to opt for more land...xx..e

(Freda, 30 minutes?????)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:54 PM

Kisses are,
                 but may be classified,
                 according to intent.
                A kiss
                Upon the forehead
                 is to seal devotion:
                A light touch on eyelids
                 indicates a hope for peaceful dreams:
                On a cheek
                 shows family affection.


                A kiss upon the lips
                 has several meanings:
                One, a gentle brush of lips,
                 offers concern,
                The other, a striving of the teeth and tongues,
                 shows willingness and desire.


                To kiss the ears, the neck, or chin
                Might be to seek for trust, or just to taste the skin.


                A kiss upon the curve of breast,
                 investigation:
                That upon the nipple often a plea,
                 or hunger for attention.


                The kiss upon the stomach, back or arms
                 is to arouse sensation.


                A kiss on back of hand,
                 a greeting, or a subtle offer:
                Upon the palm, a gift of heart,
                 to be tightly held, or quickly released.


                The kissing of the fingers, or the toes,
                 shows a desire to please,
                 or to be guided onward.


                The touch of lips to thighs, and variations,
                 are preludes and will not
                 be treated in this note.


                This is a partial catalog of meaning:
                Next week, we will discuss techniques.

                                                        23/2/81

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:00 PM

Blackcatter!!!! Did you actually write all this??? Either you have a whole lot of time on your hands, and a real interest in this subject, or you copied it from somewhere else??

I feel I should be taking notes...let's see, now there's Florida History, and Paganism....I'd say you're a bit of a show-off, but I guess you've got a lot to show off!

Beardedbruce...about all that last poem. I say...Less writing, and MORE KISSING!!!

:-D   ..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:08 PM

not quite enough bandwidth.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:25 PM

Thanks for the compliments Ellen,

By trade, I'm a historian - Director of the Central Florida Heritage Foundation. A sideline is writing. I did write the posts - I would never post someone else's work without crediting the source (and I know you weren't intimating that :> ).

I am also active in the Pagan and Unitarian Universalist communities in Florida and the U.S. I lead occasional services at my home UU congregation as well as other in Florida and other places. I also helped found the Wiccan Religious Cooperative of Florida, Inc 15 years ago and am a published author of articles on Pagan topics. The stuff I posted on the Pagan thread is from a handout sheet I put together years ago to help non-Pagans to understand the Wiccan Wheel of the Year.

Check out the website of the CFHF - it is an extensive site on the history of the Orlando area: The Central Florida Heritage Foundation

As for fun, I also host a website called Blackcatter's World of TV Theme Song Lyrics It has the lyrics to the theme songs of over 750 TV shows around the world.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 May 04 - 03:59 AM

OK Blackcatter, I'm suitably impressed.

In fact, I'm constantly being impressed by Mudcatters. So many people with such a complexity of knowledge in different areas.

I've gone to some other websites to check out different forums and I have to say that I find myself always preferring the eclectic stuff that comes along here, a lot of time when it's least expected.

Then again, we do have our own collection of "others", which help to balance things out.

Beardedbruce....another poem???..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 19 May 04 - 06:35 AM

just because your post is long, doesnt mean you will be last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 May 04 - 06:36 AM

occasionally so eclectic as to be totally obscure.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:29 AM

Ellenpoly:

Of course!

A sonnet to a friend of mine, on the occasion of her belly-dance recital...


Sonnet 11/02/02                        DCLV

I watch you dance, and study how you move,
To focus music with each roll and sway.
You rouse my senses: With each note they play,
You form emotion with your motion, prove
That sight succeeds as much as touch. You draw
All thoughts, and eyes: You dance into our dream.
You need no gems upon you: Your eyes gleam
Far more than perfect stone, without a flaw.
You glow, with your excitement: With your smile
You light the room, and brighten life. You turn,
And heart follows away, and desires burn
To fever pitch: How high can passions pile?
The music stops, and you are still: You hold
Your pose, but world returns, and room grows cold.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:32 AM

or perhaps...


Sonnet 18/10/01 To Jennifer's Kitten        DCXV

So, playful kitten, shall I find a ball
Of yarn to help entice you closer? What
Bright bauble might attract your gaze, to call
You to my lap, that I might watch eyes shut?
Shall dancing feathers on a string be prey
To huntress in carpeted hall? Is toe
To be target? Do you with shadows play,
Or does your path through unseen jungles go?
Fierce fuzzy feline, proud puff tail held high,
What beasts do you pursue? Are monsters found
Behind the curtains, or do dragons fly
Invisible to those upon the ground?
You look at me, then march across the floor
On padded paws, and promenade out door.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:36 AM

or one of the published ones...


Sonnet 18/05/01                        DLIII

A perfect day for planting, with no sun
To burn life from small leaves; The promise of
Water to sustain new growth. Here's one
Of Nature's subtle gifts, to show her love.
You plant sweet herbs for future use, and weed
Unwanted growth, but know a use for all
The garden grows. Four senses gardens feed,
And birds, who nourish fifth with evening call.
The breeze brings cool contentment, as the day
Slides into night. You have the future sown.
In time, all that you plant will grow, to pay,
With interest, labor done by harvest grown.
With laughter in eyes, and smile touching cheek,
You have in your garden all I might seek.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:55 AM

or a non-sonnet...

Doe at 2AM

She froze, staring into the light
Thinking the eyes unseen could see
The apprehension inside. Night
Seemed so secure: Darkness would be
Welcome, to hide within. How might
She in this brightness hope to flee
Back to the shadows? Time stands still:
A moment that the tensions fill.



or

A Prayer for Barbara - Spring

May all your days be filled with wonder,
And may all your nights be filled
   with dreams of heart's desire.
May you dwell amidst flowers and growing plants,
And rest under bright stars.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:22 AM

Can I have a pint of Guinness, please?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:32 AM

sorry, the NWO says you can only have a half-litre.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:44 AM

careful with that axe, eugene

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 11:32 AM

re Rapaire's commentin MOAB:
"And besides, who cares? I mean, there are perhaps six people in the whole damned country who know the difference between iambic pentameter and trochaic heptameter, and even fewer who care, and should you take the weeks necessary to write an Alexandrine, say,
the person who you were writing it to in hopes of seducing will
have gone off with someone else because the age is simply not into
seduction and while the human race has never had "world enough and time"this present era of "carpe diem" and instant gratification has taken all the fun out of things like seduction and flirtation and hell you can't even tell someone they look good these days without a sexual harrassment complaint "


funny you should mention Alexandrines..... ( waiting for pleas to stop before I post)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 11:54 AM

never will get any from me beardedbruce. I'm no good at writing poetry, so clearly I have no taste as to what is good. Besides, you're making Ellen happy.


Ellen - I didn't tell you all that to impress you - just to let you know why it's easy for me to do that stuff. It's just work and hobbies.

Besides, someone has to be an historian in the land of Mickey. It's not easy talking history in a town that most people thoink sprung from the thigh of Walt in the 1970s.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:23 PM

Well I guess I did ask for it, beardedbruce!

I admire anyone who is willing to share what they know or create, Blackcatter, so whether you meant it to impress or not, it did.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:39 PM

Gee, Ellenpoly, do I make you happy?


Well, no one stopped me, so ...

Sonnet 01/11/02       Alexandrines to My Dryad             DCCLXII

How shall I tell you of the power that smile shows?
I would take all the colors from the stars, and leaves,
And seal them in my verse, to give you when it snows,
And still not have palette to paint what heart receives.
Should you now dance with moon shadows, what would you find?
What would you see, within the mirror of your thought,
That I might hope to have heart understand your mind?
How will I know if I offer what you have sought?
Kisses are petals from rose, soft, fleeting and sweet,
But more than brush of lips. I dream that I might reach
To soul, and find a heart that makes my own complete:
How shall I my own soul of forest muse beseech?
Should I ask if you might my soul to heart embrace?
Will you be more than muse, to more than my dreams grace?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:43 PM

vey nice.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:48 PM

Thank you.

I hope Ellenpoly likes it....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 01:01 PM

btw, sonnet 30 of 163 to present muse....


freda:

I am suspicious of love poems that do not have I in them... I have always thought that 1st person was the proper form. I've written in the third person, though: would that be better?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 02:34 PM

freda:

ok, here is one without I- still first person, though.

onnet 05/11/03                         DCCCLVIII

Good night, sweet muse. May you dream of the dawn
When love and light and laughter greet your smile.
May stars gather above, as heart is drawn
To seek for love, and of these dreams make trial.
Rest well, and long: Awake to a new day
Where all is as should be, and you enjoy
The love that you deserve. Heart shows the way
To bright tomorrow: Let sleep fears destroy.
May the Lord bless and keep you; May He make
His countenance to shine on you, and be
Gracious unto you; And may the Lord give
Heart peace: If not for love, then for the sake
Of one that for your happiness gives plea.
You are the light that lets my passions live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:24 PM

I'm not going to let poetry kill this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:32 PM

ORLANDO HISTORY BIT: The Big Freezes

   Christmas Days are often beautiful in Central Florida. Warm and sunny, they are many times a respite from the cold weather. Christmas Day of 1894 was one such day. It is reported that the temperature reached into the eighties. The day held no warning of the devastation that would arrive three days later. On Sunday afternoon a storm front arrived in Central Florida that was the leading edge of a terrible cold snap. By the next morning the temperatures had settled to 24 degrees. Water pipes froze and began to burst and just about any green that was not "cold hardy" turned black and died. The freeze lasted 36 hours – a duration that is remarkable even today in an era where Central Florida can expect a moderate freeze or two each winter. The citrus crop was ruined. The oranges froze solid on the branch and subsequently dropped off and rotted on the ground.

   The Big Freeze of '94 was devastating to many smaller growers, especially those who were on the margins of profitability. Some of the families who were hit hard moved back up to the North to survive while the large growers began to look towards next year to have a successful crop. That hope changed to despair a little over a month later. As bad as the Big Freeze of '94 was, the Big Freeze of '95 was unbelievably worse. The month of January had been mild and the citrus trees had begun their spring growth, their trunks filling with sap. On February 7, a terrible freeze hit all of Florida. In Central Florida the cold snap killed many of the trees that were still recovering. The sap in some of the trees expanded and burst their trunks. Most other trees were killed down to the bud union or all the way to the roots. To this day, it is the worst disaster in modern Central Florida history.

   Seven of eight banks in Central Florida subsequently closed. Many growers left the area. The young city of Orlando decreased in population for the only time in its history. Eve Bacon in her book Orlando A Centennial History writes that Orlando's population in 1890 before the Big Freezes was 2,856. In 1900, Bacon reports that the population was 2,481. After the Big Freezes, Central Florida began to diversify agriculturally. While citrus was making a slow comeback, vegetables took up part of the slack. Of course, cattle continued to be a major source of income and small dairies were started to provide Central Floridians with their first commercially produced fresh milk. Tourism was also growing. Orlando became a quiet vacation destination and to some extent reaped the benefits of the promotions of east coast developer Henry Flagler and west coast developer Henry Plant.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:37 AM

HELP! International TV Theme Song Lyrics Needed

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:33 AM

I do like your poems, beardedbruce, but I've just lost the use of my laptop, so won't have the time to read or send much of anything, being now limited to an hour a day at my local library!

I'm pretty sure Mudcat will go on just as well without me.

Have fun, guys. I'll catch up some day..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 07:07 AM

your loss will kill the thread for sure E! and I thought it would be the sonnets.

everybody take a deep breath...

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 08:33 AM

Ellenpoly:

Sorry about the laptop- what is the problem? Maybe I have spare parts.


Blackcatter:

Show me a single thread where the last post was a poem.


42:

(inhale)





(exhale)
Nope, the sonnets did not work... I guess I need to start on my ballads.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 09:34 AM

when you care enough....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 09:35 AM

to send the hairy beast.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 20 May 04 - 10:12 AM

your post bruce was 666 !!! the number of the beast!

this post, is 667 - the neighbour of the beast!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 10:29 AM

as I had planned.... I hope this makes CarolC happy. All I want to do is make people happy.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 May 04 - 11:42 AM

Beardedbruce, thanks for the kind offer of help, but it's a borrowed laptop from a company I do volunteer work with, and I'm hoping there will be another one available for me to use. I'll know more tomorrow when I haul this one down into London to drop it off.

I'm on my old "antique", which was given to me by a friend who knew I was too poor to buy my own, and it seems to be still chugging along. Of course the mouse has seen better days, so until I can afford to buy another one, or get some more "loaners" I'll be only an infrequent visitor.

Just enough to keep this thread going!!!!!!!!!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 11:55 AM

9 pin mouse? - send a mailing address....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:07 PM

Yeah Ellen - let us know if we can help! We(I) don't want to loose you.


Bruce - I'm here to make sure poetry doesn't end a thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:23 PM

Blackcatter:

No problem. I try to refrain from spilling my verse on most threads, but this one calls out to me....

Ellenpoly:

Yes, let us know. Can't get you a new machine, but I have LOTS of parts I will give to a good cause...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:33 PM

Hey thanks guys! I let you know what happens on the morrow. It would be hard to give up my Mudcat Jones!

Seriously, this is the first and probably only time I have involved myself with unknown people via the internet, and I'm convinced it wouldn't have happened if Deckman (Bob Nelson) hadn't brought me here to read about a mutual friend.

Little did I know what I'd find here! People as strange as myself!! And I mean that in the best of ways, as you no doubt understand.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 04:13 PM

good night, Ellenpoly.


May you dream of heart's desires, and wake to a bright dawn.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work (shhhhh.)
Date: 20 May 04 - 04:17 PM

I once dated Dawn - she wasn't all that bright.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 04:23 PM

i once saw dawn. it was pretty bright.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 04:33 PM

well, being certifiably insane, by Dr.Stlly's diagnosis, I would not have a good grasp on reality.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:02 PM

reality is something I like to keep at arms' length.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:03 PM

way too close...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:09 PM

you haven't seen my arms!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:22 PM

true   ...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 05:40 PM

but that could change
j
can you believe I actually sent that. must be desperate to be last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 06:08 PM

why? are you going to the fsgw getaway?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 May 04 - 10:07 PM

STOP THAT!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 04 - 10:16 PM

The only thing you'll ever be last at is truly quitting smoking once and for all!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 May 04 - 11:02 PM

don't nag LH. it just makes me more recalcitrant.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 04 - 06:39 AM

So here I am down at the London Senior Centre (Better known as Age Concern) waiting to see if my boss can rustle up another laptop.

Just thought I'd check in (I'm SO

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 21 May 04 - 06:44 AM

Whoops! That was me, hitting the wrong button on this state-of-the-art computer, which has a screen bigger than my TV! Maybe I'll just move in here...

Anyway, fingers (and eyes and toes) still crossed about getting another laptop...think good thoughts, all...

And LH, don't rag on 42 about quitting smoking. Let ME do it! Nah, I don't know you, 42, but if there are any little 43s or 44s running around, they're your best reason to quit now.

Nuff said, I don't do ragging well....

Beardedbruce, an ODE TO A LAPTOP???..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 May 04 - 07:18 AM

now the thread will never die.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 May 04 - 11:02 AM

You're right, 42!!! I'm baaaack with my fixed-up laptop. Turned out it just needed a new battery.

Now....












Where were we?


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 11:59 AM

Thank goodness Ellen.

I don't know if I could go on without you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 May 04 - 12:13 PM

Just answer me this, Blackcatter, are you naked at this moment? (Only mentioning it because of reading the Pagan/Wiccan thread).

Nice to be missed!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 May 04 - 02:07 PM

Beardedbruce, there are a few things you must do in order to become an Elder at Mudcat Cafe...

1. Become very well-informed on William Shatner. Check out his website for more info.

2. Post incessantly! (you seem to have that well in hand)

3. Give up having a life outside of this forum.

4. Fight with other people over the Middle East, Israel, Palestinians, etc...(It doesn't really matter which side you're on, just give 'em hell! Be intemperate while you're at it.)

5. Post incessantly.

That about sums it up. Best of luck.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 May 04 - 04:35 PM

I guess that list lets me out LH.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: jimmyt
Date: 21 May 04 - 04:42 PM

yes, it is true

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 04:56 PM

1. Become very well-informed on William Shatner.

Isn't there options of other persons to be obsessed with? Neil Young, perhaps?

2. Post incessantly! (you seem to have that well in hand)

Well, that's obvious.

3. Give up having a life outside of this forum.

Wait a minute - many of us have lives outside Mudcat - usually it revolves around drinking, performing, belonging to a cult, writing poetry, etc, but they are all no less obsessive than Mudcat. And good addictive personalities can have (nay, SHOULD have) more than one thing to jones for.

4. Fight with other people over the Middle East, Israel, Palestinians, etc...(It doesn't really matter which side you're on, just give 'em hell! Be intemperate while you're at it.)

No arguement there (or should that be plenty of arguement?)/

5. Post incessantly.

Well, duh.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:00 PM

Why yes Ellen - I'm nekkid right now. The temperature outside is nearly 90 deg. (F) I live in a 1950's vintage house without A/C, but with wonderful cross breezes and ceiling fans, etc. But it's a lot nicer without clothing.

Now if that doesn't kill this thread, it will never die.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:01 PM

Neil Young? Well, no...look, I'll admit I have a soft spot for old Neil. Who doesn't? But he no longer rates as an indispensible icon on Mudcat Cafe.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:10 PM

Ok - but are there others?

This is not to say that I'm not a big fan of yours Bill. You are pre-eminant to me, so much that Years ago, during the run of T.J. Hooker, not only was your birthday celebrated by my friends and me, but so was Adrian Zmed's (merely for the close association woth you).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:13 PM

I understand perfectly. By the way, this is the 700th post. Cheers!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:16 PM

Does that mean I get an assist?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: s6k
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:40 PM

death to the anti-shatner

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 07:09 PM

Hello - I have a serious question to be answered:

I use Netscape at my primary browser and but I was checking my website with I.E. (both at work with the latest version and at home with 5.5).

On the older version the Google ads on my pages (and at Mudcat) do not show up. On the newer version they are nissing the blue clicky titles. I have no problem seeing the ads either here or on my website in Netscape (and I checked 3 version of it).

I've sent a message to Google Ads, but who knows when I'll get a response.

Can those of you using I.E. see the ads at the bottom of each page here at Mudcat? (There the ones in the box at the very bottom of the page - that is if you can see them).

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 21 May 04 - 09:20 PM

Yoo hoo . . . .

Anyone there?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: harpmaker
Date: 21 May 04 - 09:47 PM

No Blackcatter.

There all reading my rip off thread.

That means Iam the last one on this thread.

I hearwidth.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 May 04 - 05:54 AM

Blackcatter, at the bottom of this page is an ad from Google that says "Save Endangered Wildlife". I'm on Explorer, if that is of any help.

LH, your list was comprehensive and I hated to see how close I am to being an Elder in such a short time! Can't I just consider myself a Younger Elder (or would that imply a preference for Neil over William?) But somehow the idea of being a Shat-Elder doesn't have the same ring to me...

Blackcatter, now back to this whole nekkid thing. Not only won't it put an end to this thread, but it should actually drum up some more business. I for one, need pics, though I already know that Pene Azul may not be willing to comply. I tried to get him to put up pics of me involved in a Spencer Tunick "installation" of 500 nudes when we posed at Selfridges last year, and he wouldn't. He SAID it was due to copyright laws, but I believe it was the firm red pencil of a jittery editor.

None the less, people writing while naked might be a good one to add to Little Hawk's Mudcat Elder list!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 May 04 - 06:40 AM

no ads
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 04 - 10:39 AM

No, if you have a preference for Neil Young over Shatner that indicates that you are an Over-Elder, slipping into your dotage and third childhood, and becoming barely coherent. This has happened to a few of the founding members, I am sad to say. Such people also have very little respect for David Bowie, generally speaking.

As for typing in the nude, I never do that, but it's only because I get cold too easily...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:23 PM

L.H. - you'd be surprised at how I strike the space bar . . .


Ellen - I doubt nekkid pics of me would help anything. I'm not saying I'm ugly, because I'm certainly not, but I'm not Antonio Banderas (or even Shatner). I could post so pics, but I'd rather you have your invented image of me.


By the way, Wrath of Kahn is on the TV right now - For those of you who seem to think that Shatner isn't the best actor, Kirtie Ally is the worst Vulcan ever! And what about Ricardo's "chest piece?"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:37 PM

Not yet!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 May 04 - 01:05 PM

Brucie - keep voting for Fillmore!

Everyone else too.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 22 May 04 - 01:46 PM

Someone told me my votes were not getting onto the tally sheet. But, I will go do that now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 May 04 - 03:52 PM

Brucie - you just need to vote for him in only 1 category. And you can revote every 10 minutes or so.

I've been voting for hime, Washington (to get him past Reagan) and John Quincy adams (another Unitarian and to get him past our current presidential pretender).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 23 May 04 - 06:40 AM

"Ricardo's Chest Piece" ? Listen, he looked pretty damn good for his age. Certainly looked like he'd have no problem ripping off Bill's hairpiece with one hand tied behind his muscled back...(Yes, I did think he was hot.)

I loved "Wrath". That and Star Trek IV when they go back for the Whales are my favorite ones of the the full length films by far. Mr Chekov looking for the "wessles" was priceless, along with Spock's lines as he tried to fit in and regain his brain cells. Once again it didn't take much for everyone including George and Gracie to upstage poor WS.

"I'd rather you have your invented image of me"-Blackcatter

"Ditto. Not falling apart as such, but time makes most things fall south. Keep your imagination as the preferred back-up system, as will I!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 23 May 04 - 11:45 AM

LH, my SO has an original Captain Kirk action figure. Are you drooling yet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 May 04 - 12:56 PM

oh yeah!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 23 May 04 - 03:56 PM

I've heard that the Kirk action figures were anatomically correct. And oddly enough, better actors.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 May 04 - 04:36 PM

...and that would be a surprise to ?????

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 May 04 - 07:02 PM

and the point of becoming an elder?


Working on that ode....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 24 May 04 - 04:33 AM

been very ill for aweek.

Whats this about PIGS?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 24 May 04 - 04:35 AM

..might fly...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 May 04 - 05:41 AM

...or might have 30 minute orgasims while watching "Wrath of Khan"...

...and playing with anatomically correct Star Trek dolls...

...while typing naked to Mudcat...

...and creating Odes to their laptops.

All caught up? ;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 07:47 AM

Ellenpoly:

Odes to YOUR laptop....

might take a while- I need to find some inspiration before I can write. My present muse gives me sonnets and ballads, but not odes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 May 04 - 07:58 AM

from a sow's ear?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 May 04 - 11:40 AM

Bearedbruce, for a good Ode I'll wait forever. But don't desert us for the Wiccan/Pagen site with your Sonnets!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 May 04 - 11:46 AM

It's not her laptop that I'm interested in . . .

I just posted this on the Pagan thread:

Maybe we should have a competition for Poet Laureate of the Mudcat. I'd just give it to Bruce, but considering the membership (like one of my favorites: Katlaughing) we really should have a competition.

What do you all think?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 24 May 04 - 11:46 AM

is this still here

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 May 04 - 11:53 AM

Blackcatter I'd make a joke about my mouse, but I don't want to encourage you too much!

A prize for Best Bard sounds like a good idea. Not most prolific, mind you...so maybe we'll have to cite our favorite examples...or would that be too much like work to have to go hunt them down?

Never mind...Beardedbruce, you've got two votes now..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 May 04 - 12:16 PM

Remember - I'm a cat - I go for mice, but I'm also a Tomcat and like little pussies too.

Well, we could start a thread for the Mudcat's Best Bard (though poet might be better, since Bard implies songs as well, and we are fairly thick with songwriters.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 May 04 - 12:19 PM

I see your point...go for it, Blackcatter-I mean about the Best Poet thread...the other, well.....it's my own fault ;-)

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 May 04 - 12:26 PM

Mudcat's Best Poet Contest

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 02:39 PM

Blackcatter:

Just remember, Poet Laureate of the US only pays about $50K a year ( I think it is a two year term. So, Mudcat should be a whole lot less. Not sure I can afford to take the pay cut, though the honor would be... interesting.

I posted a variety of my work on the thread: Most of my recent stuff has been sonnets, so can I just refer to the ones already posted? Don't want to overwhelm anyone...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 24 May 04 - 02:49 PM

Has anybody mentioned cat farts on this thread? I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go back and read the entire thing just to find out.

But if cat farts have not been mentioned previously, you may consider this post to be the post that mentions them.

And if cat farts have been mentioned previously, you may consider this post to be the post that mentions them again.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 02:51 PM

"Anything worth doing is worth overdoing."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 May 04 - 04:45 PM

...or worth doing over.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 04:46 PM

Ellenpoly:

"Bearedbruce, for a good Ode I'll wait forever. But don't desert us for the Wiccan/Pagen site with your Sonnets!..xx..e "

Not sure how good it will be- not a subject that brings words to mind. But I will try... No intention of deserting you- Just wanted to give that sonnet as a reply of my feelings on the topic. I have enough sonnets to put them into EVERY thread... just not sure I want CarolC using them as an example of how I want to kill off Palestinians...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 May 04 - 05:33 PM

See! I told you this thread would run and run. I've been in Madeira for a week, and it's still here. Anyway, now that I'm back you can all cease posting forthwith.
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 05:36 PM

But there is such demand for my sonnets! I need to put each and every one of them on this thread......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 04 - 06:54 PM

Sonnet 21/05/04                            CMXIII

Might I have feather from an angel's wing,
To be a quill to write of heart's desires?
Might I have laughter that brings touch of spring,
Or smile to give the sight that hope inspires?
I ask for token that you care for one
Not near enough to try to touch your heart.
I need a focus for my thoughts, a sun
To light my dreams and show the path to art.
Might I find future in the thought of eyes
That look into my soul? How shall I seek
To hold what so far beyond my reach lies?
How can I hope to of my desires speak?
Are you the one that all of my dreams hold?
Should my arms hope to such a dream enfold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 May 04 - 08:38 PM

This thread is now officially bigger than the title.

Bruce - thanks for posting your poetry to all the threads - especially to the one I started this morning.

Personally, i love poetry so much I know better than to write it myself.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 25 May 04 - 03:38 AM

The last poem I wrote depressed me so much I decided to quit before someone found one pinned onto my hanging corpse. (It's titled "Death Plays With Me"...so you get my drift.)

MUCH better reading and delighting in beardedbruce's sonnets. Keep em rolling, hon!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 May 04 - 07:49 AM

How about "Played For a Fool" love that dblentendre.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 04 - 07:49 AM

well, I do have some Dark sonnets.... but not sure anyone wants to read about my depressions... I certainly don't want to!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 May 04 - 05:06 PM

BB...do all sonnets ask as many questions as yours?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 04 - 05:09 PM

No, sonnets are like people- each is unique. I just happen to have a lot of questions, and a lot less answers.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Buddhist helpline
Date: 25 May 04 - 05:29 PM

Who is last in the thread in a literal sense may not be the last to give it thought...who then would be the last in the thread????

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 May 04 - 05:41 PM

Boy, I think I need the Buddhist Helpline to help me understand that comment - but that's where it comes from . . .

Anyone got change for a paradox?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 May 04 - 05:46 PM

Actually, I think that does make some sense but threads are literal not just thought....Sorry BH but he/she who writes the last message is last in the thread cos that's the rules here....Are there rules on the Buddhist helpline???? Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 May 04 - 06:38 PM

OK - I think I get it - sort of like the idea that someone like the Buddha is immortal because he's still in the thoughts of people.

If that's the case - it's likely that the initiator of the thread will be last - I know I still think about threads I started years ago that also ended years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 04 - 08:38 PM

Yes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 May 04 - 12:58 PM

Send in the Clones.
JGM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 04 - 01:33 PM

How about James Last then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 May 04 - 01:34 PM

do I need to put another sonnet here?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Flapwurter
Date: 26 May 04 - 03:07 PM

Go ahead. I dare you! Do your worst.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 May 04 - 03:14 PM

my worst? I cannot be so cruel, even to those I argue politics with.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 May 04 - 03:20 PM

not for a guest, anyway....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 May 04 - 12:00 AM

Keep voting!

(Oops. Sorry - wrong thread).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 May 04 - 04:28 AM

Yes, please, beardedbruce. The buddha would approve more sonnets. It might only serve to keep you on this plane longer, but Samadhi can wait...we need some poetry!!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 May 04 - 07:04 AM

i admire anyone who admits to having questions...someone, something, somewhere somewhen... answers are there for those who know enough to ask.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 04 - 08:21 AM

I found out something fascinating yesterday. A new scientific study has indicated that when smokers "cut down" on the number of cigarettes they smoke daily they still end up consuming about the same amount of tar, nicotine, etc per diem. Why? Because apparently they unconsciously draw deeper on each puff and hold the smoke in longer, and get more out of each cigarette in order to satisfy the body's demands for the amount of drugs it is accustomed to.

I read the article, then thought about it, and yeah...I've noticed how lovingly smokers nurse their less frequent cigarettes when they're "cutting back". They give them far more focused attention than the cavalier way they used to smoke when they were doing 2 packs a day! :-) People are extraordinary.

Conclusion: You either smoke or you don't smoke. Face it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Lovechild
Date: 27 May 04 - 05:12 PM

aw please let me be last. I aint never been last in anything

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 May 04 - 11:29 PM

you got it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 May 04 - 10:45 AM

Why on earth am I the first one to be posting here today?

It looks like I've done some good thread killing lately so maybe I should quit here and give some others a chance....
























or maybe not!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 May 04 - 11:18 AM

Better watch it - the Buddhist ants make be beating a trail to your door. Hmmmm - just which way are those ants going . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 May 04 - 11:26 AM

OOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM...(OUCH!)

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 04 - 01:44 PM

Ellenpoly:


Sonnet 18/05/01                        DLII

Might I send verse, as sweet as wine, to lead
The way to pleasant dreams? I wish not tears,
But I would hold you while you sonnets read,
Run fingers through hair, and trace curve of ears.
I offer to you only what I might:
The gentle touch of fingers above eyes;
The kneading of soft flesh, in passion. Night
Fills with the dream of you; Heart hears but sighs.
What might I tell, that you would dreams desire?
Can visions in my mind reflect your smile,
Or look in eye? What would you now require
For hope that I might stay with you a while?
Should not true love be more than one can stand
That it takes two to Love's embrace withstand?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 04 - 09:03 PM

I know, weak rhyme on the couplet...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 May 04 - 12:12 AM

never let them see you sweat!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 May 04 - 03:38 PM

Man, you should see the road rash on my right side. I have scrapes on the top of my shoulder, elbow, forearm, knee and back of ankle.

Ya know - Aleve says not to exceed 2 tablets within 8-12 hours or 3 tablets within 24 hours. I've been taking them for 22 hours and have taken 8 already. Fun.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 04 - 03:45 PM

"If it hurts when you do that, DON'T do that!"

Try to stay on, next time. But we are glad it is not worse. At least your sense of humor is ok.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 29 May 04 - 05:24 PM

But, you're OK. Bet you're back on the bike in a week.

beardedbruce: Good poetry. Beyond good.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 04 - 05:27 PM

Thanks. Glad to see that someone tries to read it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 May 04 - 05:37 PM

I'm back on the bike tomorrow morning. Bent rim and all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 29 May 04 - 09:37 PM

This thread has got so long people must be bored with the wait for it to load. That means that I have a better chance of being last.

If I were native Shanghaiese I would probably try and find a way to jump the queue and be the first before Little Hawk who started the bloody thing......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 May 04 - 10:22 PM

On the main threads page click on the linked "Messages" numbers (to the right of the thread title) to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

Hope that helps.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 04 - 11:05 PM

or we could just make this the last entry...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 May 04 - 11:27 PM

O.K.!
































Oops.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 04 - 12:02 AM

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 May 04 - 12:16 AM

hey - I just got your emoticon. Cool. I may be a black cat, but I've got a beard too.


hack!

Damn hairballs.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 04 - 12:26 AM

Don't know about you, but I have no desire to take a knife to my secondary sexual characteristics...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 May 04 - 12:42 AM

Well, my first name is Tom, so as a Tomcat - I haven't let any one mess with the primary either.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 30 May 04 - 06:28 AM

only another 2450 posts to go.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 May 04 - 06:43 AM

Having been a biker myself for mucho years, I sympathize, Blackcatter. I worked at a Motorcycle Show last year, and the one thing all the bikers seemed to have in common, were either scrapes and bruises they would gleefully exhibit, or pronounced limps.(Also a few more missing limbs than I enjoyed noting). Need to be a hardy (and fairly stupid) breed to keep getting back in the saddle.

My nurse friend told me motorbikes are referred to by the medical community as "Donorcycles".

I'm bikeless here in the UK and miss them dreadfully, but the weather rather precludes them for me. I've been too spoiled by riding them in Greece, and Hawaii.

So, climb right back up there, Blackcatter, but do please make sure you've filled out your donor card!


.xx..e

PS-Thanks, beardedbruce! Reading your sonnets really make my day............








really.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 04 - 06:52 AM

I shall take that as a compliment, but I do have to worry about your days..... Feel free to share them with your friends- maybe someone over there knows a publisher that does not think sonnets are too old-fashioned to print.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 May 04 - 05:04 PM

OK, what's the next topic of discussion?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 04 - 05:13 PM

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

Or how many nurses can dance on the head of a pin?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 May 04 - 05:19 PM

Hellllllloooooo Nurse!

That's what I need right now - a nurse to tend my wounds. But I've settle for a friendly kitty cat.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 04 - 05:25 PM

I would settle for an eager groupie... I have the cats already.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 31 May 04 - 05:31 AM

Beardedbruce, I might be one of only a handful here who enjoy your sonnets, (maybe only a handful left on earth, as far as I know) but I do, and will continue to.

Consider me your poetry nurse!

Blackcatter, the lick of a cat is supposed to be quite stimulating to one's nervous system, and their salary is less than a nurse, and MUCH less than a nurse who's paid to perform that same service!


Whoops! Sorry, are we on to other subjects?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 May 04 - 07:39 AM

Thank you. If you ever have insomnia, I could send you all 914...

Or perhaps I should just post them all here?

                               8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 May 04 - 07:44 AM

900+ sonnets would take this thread perilously close to "The Mother". are we ready to slash the apron strings?

for a change of pace...I'm looking for sly/subtle/interesting takes on the phrase '52 pickup' for a song that percolating around in my head. Any ideas?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 May 04 - 07:49 AM

one woman a week for a year?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 May 04 - 07:52 AM

or an old Dodge (or Ford) truck?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 31 May 04 - 10:56 AM

Beardedbruce, I have to admit that I like the way you kind of dribble them into the different posts. It allows me to recover from each one before reading the next.

It would be daunting to read a host of them, so for the sake of others reading here, I suggest you continue to sprinkle, rather than pour...yes?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 May 04 - 01:45 PM

"It allows me to recover from each one before reading the next."

I was not aware that they had so great an effect on you... I shall have to be more carefull which ones I post...



The threat to put them all here was a humorous attempt to end the thread, leaving me last...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 May 04 - 09:10 PM

bring 'em on!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 04 - 09:56 PM

you are getting sleepy...very sleepy...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 01 Jun 04 - 01:12 AM

ORLANDO HISTORY BIT: The English Colony

In the mid 1880s Orlando was growing, primarily from northerners and southerners moving into the area to try their luck at growing citrus and other cash crops, but not all of Orlando's new settlers were American. A significant number came from Britain including a few that would become some of Orlando's leading citizens such as Gordon Rogers and Joseph Bumby.

The ex-patriot British became known as the "English Colony" which consisted of three different groups: retired businessmen, young men who would not inherit their family's property and came to Florida to become successful, and general laborers who came to serve the first two groups. Along with hard work and determination, the English brought their love of tennis, croquet, golf, and polo to the area, which eventually changed the habits of most of Orlando's inhabitants.

The English Colony changed the look and feel of Orlando at a time when it was already changing from a dusty and nearly lawless cowtown to an agricultural and commercial center.

As for tennis - the first courts were built around 1885. As for polo, it was discovered that the Florida scrub ponies, who were adapt at a rough life in the scrub pine and palmetto forests, made wonderful mounts for the polo games that began in 1888. In 1890 the Orlando Polo Club was formed with over 100 members. Croquet courts were also established early on. Golf began the same year with the establishment of a 9-hole course by Leslie Pell-Clarke on the shores of Lake Eola.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 03:43 AM

Beardedbruce, please don't edit on my account.

Blackcatter, thanks for more of Orlando History. Nice to know it's more than just a Mouse Town.

Note: This thread is destined to last at least as long as I can still hobble my way to a computer!

Quit now, everyone else.

(BB, I'll find your poetry on another thread, I promise.)


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 03:59 AM

800. I thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 04:21 AM

Sigh

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 04:26 AM

802. It just gets better and better.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM

i just thought how we can ALL be last.
Each day some is last on that day..... so each day we end with someone different and then we are all last.
the bad news is then its the end and still only 2450 posts to go.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 05:26 AM

Sonnet 01/06/04                            CMXV

She does not know how hard it is to keep
From running there, to seek to see her smile.
She fills my thoughts: Might I hope for a while
To hold her in my dreams? I yearn for sleep
To show desire: Yet, can I from dreams reap
What I should ask of her? How can I think
That I have given care enough to link
Desire to action? Should I for hope weep?
She knows I care: But have I given sign
Of how much I want to give kiss to skin?
What should I do, to give heart hope to win
This muse from whom such longed-for passions flow?
What can I say, to any of dream show,
When all I dream is to hold her as mine?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 07:36 AM

BB - I don't know anything about sonnets but, from reading most of yours these lines don't seem to scan for some reason. Am I crazy?

"Of how much I want to give kiss to skin?
What should I do, to give heart hope to win"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 08:18 AM

" I don't know anything about sonnets but, from reading most of yours these lines don't seem to scan for some reason."

Perhaps- it depends on the person scanning: there can be different accents depending on the person scanning... But I try to vary the structure to what I thing sounds right. I do not insist that all feet be iambic,


"Am I crazy?"

This is a topic that might require its own thread...
                                                       8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 10:49 AM

Good idea, BB. I'd like to know how many would fess up to it..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 10:53 AM

Ellenpoly:

First we have to define "crazy" and "normal"

I write sonnets. Sonnets are not the preferred verse form these days. One would have to be crazy to write sonnets. Therefore, I am crazy.

Find the newest one?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 07:05 PM

that was a rhetorical question! rhetoric reponses only allowed.

j

where's Little Hawk when you need him?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 07:14 PM

Speaking of hobbling - I am healing up. The hardest part I've noticed is to be short of breath when talking - Because it hurts to take anything more than shallow breaths, I've got to curtail my speaking.

Not my posting though.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 04 - 07:32 PM

Good that you are still functional.

Take lots of shallow breaths, and post often.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 03:41 AM

I'm waiting!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 04:09 AM

Affirmative, BB. Read sonnets; determined you are indeed crazy...


So am I.





For different reasons.


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 05:41 AM

Yes, but isn't that what makes life interesting?


Have you ever had to deal extensively with "normal" people?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 05:48 AM

Yes BB, which is probably why I'm now an almost complete recluse.

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 05:49 AM

Whoops! Sorry! That last post was from me...I'm in the library (last refuse of recluses)..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 06:24 AM

were you a cluse before you were a recluse?

I don't go to libraries much. I feel any book worth reading is worth owning... I have about 50K volumes...

There are several interesting CD collections of books that are out of copyright- "Library of the Future" is good. I think the Brittannica "Great Books" are available, as well. But I still like the real book sometimes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 07:15 AM

how do you know a book is worth reading (for you) before you buy it? Are your shelves covered with dusty, one shot wonders or do you bring down favourites regularly?

love to see the space that would hold a library that size!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 07:32 AM

re space- so would I! Most of my books are boxed up, waiting shelf space- a few thousand are out at any one time.

Some are reference, and not often looked at. A lot, ( maybe 30K ) are paperback sci-fi, that I cycle through over time, rereading favorite.

And I collect Encyclopaedea Brittannicas...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 09:54 AM

By the by, I meant "last refuge" NOT "refuse"!!

BB, I used to be a book owner, (as well as running my mother's bookstore). I collected thousands. But then I became a gypsy, and now, unless I can carry it, it doesn't come with me. So THANK THE GODDESS for libraries!!!!

..xx..e

(Never was a cluse, but was something of a clutz.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 10:04 AM

E:

I sort of figured that...

A gypsy, but not wanting to come to the Getaway? I hope I can survive the disappointment.

The other problem is that unless I go to a MAJOR library, they do not have what I am looking for. I have never found Farmer (on Miracles, or on Demonics) in one- but I have them at home. ( Major texts on witch trials and angels, mine are something like 43rd printings, 1823)

My 14th -18th century poetry shelf is far more than the local libraries- I am luckey if they even have complete works of the major poets.

ANd they get rid of encyclopaedeas when the are 10 years old or so- I find the 11th ed. Britt. (1910-11) to be much more useful than what they have on the shelf, for anything about the 19th cent or earlier.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 10:15 AM

BB, I'm in complete agreement with you about the state of most libraries. At the moment, I'm in a running battle with my local branch over their policy of ripping out any book that hasn't been loaned out within two years!!!!

Your collection sounds absolutely enviable, and if I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I wouldn't mind an invite to nose around.

In return, I'll cook spagetti!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 10:22 AM

Well, you would be welcome, but spagetti is not something I should be having these days...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 10:38 AM

Name your non-poison, BB. I'm a pretty good cook..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 11:24 AM

I'm having spaghetti in an hour!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 12:24 PM

Au natural? (the pasta I mean...I've assumed you'll be sans coulottes)..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 12:30 PM

Ya know, if we continue all this silly (but fun) flirting, there's a good chance we'll drive everyone else away. Then we can flip for who gets the last post.,,xx,,e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 02:02 PM

you need to be flipped?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 02:38 PM

Yeah? You go flip yourSElF, buddy! In fact ...Flip right off ya flippin retread!

- BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 05:56 PM

I'm STILL waiting!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 06:19 PM

ah..the real voice of the north heard from at last.
I've been to Blind River and you need to be Blind Drunk.

j

ps. I love it when my library delists unpopular books. I can buy them for a song!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 06:37 PM

No - I get to flip her - flip 'er - Flipper

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there under, under the sea!

Everyone loves the king of the sea,
Ever so kind and gentle is he,
Tricks he will do when children appear,
And how they laugh when he's near!

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 06:42 PM

Ellen, if I was to stop flirting with you, I might end up flirting with one of the Bruces.


Bruces' Philosophers' Drinking Song

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 09:32 PM

If you let me be last I'll never post another picture here again.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jun 04 - 09:58 PM

No way D. we likes them!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 01:59 AM

Ain't there some song about the "last post and corrus"? It oughta be the one to end this here flippin thread. Arf! Arf! That was a joke eh?

- BDiBR

Hey, 42...NObody who has been to Blind River EVER flippin forgot the place eh? You can take that to the bank and cash it. This town gets in yer blood and it don't let go! I been here all my life. I should know, eh? We make places like Massie and ESpanola look like a couple of worn out old farts in a stiff breeze...I mean like, insubsttantchal. Blind River is where it's at! The only thing Subdury has that Blind River don't is the Big Nickel and way too many loosers and jerks.

P.S. GO FLAMES GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 03:54 AM

What's Giok waiting for?


(PS-Even if I ever stop flirting, I'll always continue to play "straight man" to this crew).

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:10 AM

For you all to finish flirting so's I can be last.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:01 AM

sorry, we're not dead yet ( well, I have been, but I got better...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:14 AM

Poor Giok

Perhaps another sonnet will perk him up, BB?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:24 AM

Thanks, Blackcatter.

For you, Ellenpoly, anything... Did I put this one up yet?

Sonnet 30/01/03                        DCCLXXXIV

Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire. Why do I dream, in dark
And silence? I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark.
I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?
What hope had I to ever two hearts link?
I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest. I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met.
Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:29 AM

we are still not posting fast enough!
We are still behind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:32 AM

Oh, BB, don't expect ME to remember what you've already posted!

Just keep em rolling...and ignore all those nasty people on the Best Poet Thread. It's frightening to see how vicious (well, awfully critical) they can be. It's like a Poetic Pissing Contest over there, except that you're just offering up your work, which was the whole point of the thread, yes?

It's the word "Best" isn't it? Get's all you folks (I'm being polite here, I really mean "men") into a right lather.

Nevermind. You can always come here and lick your wounds (I'd offer to cyber-lick them, if it'll help).

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 06:04 AM

... I did suggest we change it to "beast"...

Thanks... I don't mind critism, but "it sucks" does not give me much to help make it any better.

Evre have Cheasapeake Bay steamed crabs?    8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 07:34 AM

OMG, BB! You DO know how to chat me up!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 07:45 AM

too bad you can't make the getaway... Last year, Alaska Mike brought smoked salmon...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 07:52 AM

...sushi?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 07:55 AM

As Meg Ryan said in "When Harry Met Sally" (but I mean it)...YES! YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

..xx...e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:01 AM

On the north side of Baltimore, in a small shopping cemter off ofRt.140, there ia a small restaurant named "China Best". They have sushi buffet, with some cooked dishes as well. Lunch is just various rolls, probably about 30 types. Something like $7 US for all you can eat.
Dinner is a lot more $11 US I think. But they have the other type ( rice ball) then. Very good, and the turnover is about 10 minutes per tray.

Probably about an hour drive from the Getaway site.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:03 AM

That sounds like a good deal, BB, though figuring in the cost of a round-trip plane ticket makes the price a BIT more!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:14 AM

AH, but with proper timing... the Getaway, perhaps something in Washington ( concert or whatever), Baltimore, Philadelphia...I have seen rt fares in the low hundreds. ANd the longer you stay the lower the pe-day cost... Though Bay crabs might be hard to get around the time of the getaway.

and as a gypsy, why would you want a round trip ticket, anyway?

                8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:37 AM

and yes, I would treat to sushi- prices were for others in case they want to run down before/after the getaway.

Can't help with the airfare- my only free flight coupon is for lower48 only- otherwise I would have offered it to Alaska Mike for Tawmmie...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 09:26 AM

As tempting as you make it, BB, my gypsy days have been put on hiatus for now. I'm burrowed into a funky flat where I'm determined to read my way through the British Library.

Then again, like a good groundhog, I should pop my head up once in a while and smell the sushie!..xx..e

(PS-I still remember being wined and dined in spectacular fashion by Deckman Bob in Everett,WA. HUGE salmon steaks every nite/or morning of my visit.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:37 AM

salmon can be arranged... But the Atlantic salmon we get here are all farme, and dyed. I cannot really recomment them. But I could find you Pacific salmon...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:44 AM

And does the British Library have "Farmer on Miricles"? I will have to get you the full title...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:47 AM

The British Library is reputed to have the second best erotica collection in the world. Anyone know which library has the best?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,ignorant
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:49 AM

no.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:54 AM

Please enlighten us, Blackcatter.


BB-I'd be happy with whatever was fresh and good and came from the water. (See? I don't say Ocean, because there are too many yummy things that swim in fresh water lakes....Mmmmm trout...!)

Lord! I'm certainly am a vegetarian's nightmare!..xx..e

(Don't know about the book you mentioned, but I can nose around with more info, BB)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 10:58 AM

I believe it is the Vatican.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 11:05 AM

Boy, does that sound right!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 01:30 PM

Ding, ding, ding, ding!

Got it Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the Knights
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:19 PM

Neeh!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:25 PM

sorry, no shrubberies here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Jun 04 - 10:38 PM

Whew!








Almost let bruce be last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 03:01 AM

Well, sometimes it does happen....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 03:14 AM

But

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 03:19 AM

But... Not this time.

Well, the Be(a)st Poet thread seems dead...

and the Armed Nudests...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 04:05 AM

Brucie, maybe it's just as well that the Best Poet Thread may have hit it's demise. Too much arguing and not enough poems ended up there. So be it, I say. It certainly won't stop you or anyone else from offering up their poems if and when they so choose.

They're welcome here, and you can at least be sure, you'll never close down THIS thread!!!..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 04:11 AM

true...

So, what kind of sonnets shall I put on here? I'll bring the cd back in here, ao I can upload them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 04:21 AM

Sonnet 07/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVII

The roses blush, to find themselves outdone
By your sweet smile. How can they hope to show
Even a tithe of hope my dreams have won?
How can I roses worthy of muse grow?
Even my dreams fail to these feelings tell,
That you give cause for hope to want to live.
You send reason to look ahead, and spell
That heals my soul, to all of past forgive.
In dream I hold you, when I cannot reach
To touch, or keep you warm: Am I a fool,
To give my dreams such power? Will they teach
A heart that yearns for passion to stay cool?
I do not think dreams will desires rein in,
Yet I cannot think that to love is sin.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 10:09 AM

I even stopped going on the Best Poest thead - didn't like it (other than the poetry).

Keep posting here Bruce (I'll be last anyhow).


And isn't it the gentlemanly thing to be willing to finish last so that a lady may always finish first?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 10:29 AM

Sonnet 10/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVIII

I drink tea with my muse, and try to learn
What wishes I might grant. How can I give
Her reasons to show smile, and spring return
To eyes, that all of winter dreams might live?
My dreams reach out, to hold her in these arms
Made stronger by her smile. She feeds my soul
With words of caring: Yet, if longing harms
The chance for love, heart never will be whole.
Heart does not ask for all of dream: I know
Not what she would desire. I shall not seek
More than she offers. Yet, my words might show
Some part of hope, and of my passions speak.
I spend the night with muse, trying to find
All I might know, that I can future bind.



No argument at all, Blackcatter.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 11:49 AM

Oh not fair, Blackcatter!


;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 12:06 PM

I would have thought you would have liked that Ellen.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM

Sonnet 10/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVIII

I drink tea with my muse, and try to learn
What wishes I might grant. How can I give
Her reasons to show smile, and spring return
To eyes, that all of winter dreams might live?
My dreams reach out, to hold her in these arms
Made stronger by her smile. She feeds my soul
With words of caring: Yet, if longing harms
The chance for love, heart never will be whole.
Heart does not ask for all of dream: I know
Not what she would desire. I shall not seek
More than she offers. Yet, my words might show
Some part of hope, and of my passions speak.
I spend the night with muse, trying to find
All I might know, that I can future bind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 04 - 01:03 PM

SORRY!!!

last message SHOULD have been:

Sonnet 12/03/04                     DCCCLXXXIX

I kiss her fingers, and rub tired feet
Until the daily toil fades into rest..
I seek her smile: It would my day complete
That she might sleep in arms by her touch blessed.
I wish I could her dreams ensure, with all
The power of my heart.: To see her sleep
With smile- My soul would to the heavens call,
In thanks for such sweet gift, that dream not weep.
She is far more than dream can know, but less
Than some of my desires: I would be liar
To say I would not wish for love. I guess
I'll be content with dreams, by her inspired.
To muse I give my heart, and all the dreams
That moonlight might allow to form hope's schemes

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 04:37 AM

I DID like it, Blackcatter. That's the problem. Now I'm caught...nice guys who finish last deserve a prize...but NOT THE LAST POST!

I'll have to think of another one for you...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 04:53 AM

Sonnet 13/03/04                     DCCCXC

Is winter over now, and does the earth
Awaken from cold slumber to become
A source of growth? I now await the birth
Of dreams to life: My hopes to dreams succumb.
Should I look for a change, in what I find
That stars and moonlight give me? Shall I seek
To hold for real what I hold in my mind,
Or think that dream might ever future speak?
How can I know what would her smile assure?
What should I tell of dreams, when I desire
A love no reason permits? She is more
Than friend, this muse that all of hopes inspire.
What might I do, to show how much hopes mean?
I have not words to hint of passions' glean

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 06:45 PM

Heck - just let me finish (and not the thread).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 08:52 PM

Sonnet 15/03/04                     DCCCXCI

I wish I had the means to give you time
To dream of heart's desires, and let me know
How I might make you smile. How can I show
How much I care, that it is not just rhyme
That you have given me? You bring a light
When all is darkness- Dawn, to night of soul.
Yet, even in dreams I have not the goal
To seek what is not offered as a right.
I wish I held you near, to see your eyes
And know what I might say. You are my sun,
And moon, and stars: You form all of the skies
That offer future joy. Yet, have I won
Enough to ask for love? Silence replies
That dreams dare not out of my own mind run.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 09:19 PM

Some people are sonorous.

You are sonneterous.

Thanks for the poetry.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jun 04 - 09:40 PM

Sonnet 17/03/04                     DCCCXCII

How might muse give dreams reason to recall
What joy lies in a touch? How can hopes tell
Of my desire, when my words seem to fall
On snow? Will dreams alone make my heart well?

I wish her happiness, but is there chance
That I might share moonlight, and smile? I try
To have mind control heart, but soft romance
Is stronger than resolve, when passions cry.

I look at pictures of my muse, and dream
How sweet her lips may be, and just how soft
Those shoulders are to touch. Yet, do eyes gleam
For me or verse? Will hope hold me aloft?

Shall I admit how much I want concern,
When I've no hope that she will to me turn?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 07:22 AM

whew, just in the nick of time! i wasn't even on the same page as you folks.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 07:35 AM

now you've done it...


Sonnet 18/03/04                     DCCCXCIII

What good is mage who does not know his mind?
Can any good come of desires that fear
To be acted upon? Are my hopes blind,
To dwell on one so distant? Can dreams hear
Even the echo of her thoughts? I weep,
To think I have no purpose: Will I send
All of my heart, to find I cannot keep
Even my hopes alive? Is silence end?
It is not muse at fault, that I obsess
Over my dreams. She does not lead my heart
To think that I might change her life: Far less
Than smile would be enough to my dreams start.
Yet, I would not another muse desire:
She is the one to my passions inspire

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:15 AM

Lurk lurk
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:17 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...what?...huh?...ah, another sonnet. How nice.

Listen, BB, you KNOW I like reading your sonnets, but how about not so many so quickly? I don't want to skip them because, well, just how many sonnets can one read in a given week?

Not that you are casting your pearls, but there is something to be said about keeping the value high with a bit less frequency?

Let's find some other interesting things to discuss here, yes? Something not offered on another thread? Hmmmm there must be some topic we can call our own...



Or will it be back to golf?


In which case....








More sonnets!

:-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:19 AM

and another...



Sonnet 20/03/04                     DCCCXCIV

How can I think to hold my muse, when all
I have to offer are soft words? I know
She does not need my dreams, but tears would fall
To not tell of desire, and caring show.
How can I hope to see her smile, when eyes
Remain just distant stars? I cannot reach
To touch her lips, but heart dare not realize
That she does not sit near, to passions teach.
How can I dream of voice I've never heard,
Or fashion futures from her smile? She gives
Her lines of verse, but I need not a word
To form a vision that some of hope lives.
How can I not offer soul to my muse
Who gives heart chance to past depression lose?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:24 AM

sorry, ellenpoly, we crossposted...

I was just putting one up, sequentially, whenever anyone posted here.

so, what shall we discuss? angel hair pasta and grilled salmon? sushi? Uses of olive oil?

massages? I was once asked to stop giving a massage... after about 8 hours. ( fsgw getaway, back at Camp Letts)

pick a topic- any topic.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:28 AM

gee, i like that number... but i shall let you have the hundred...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:34 AM

Massage isn't a bad topic, BB. Have you ever been Rolfed?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 08:48 AM

no... I seem to only give massages...

got to get some sleep- been at work /awake for the last 29 hours... Back tonight, 0200 UTC or a little earlier.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 10:35 AM

Yawn.

It's 10:34 - must be time to get up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 03:43 PM

and everyone else must have gone to bed . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 04:16 PM

Octopodi, Olive Oil, Lemon Juice, sprinkling of Oregano, and a bottle of Ouzo.
Heaven!!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Jun 04 - 05:23 PM

I love octopus! so great to eat.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 12:29 AM

it's all your fault, Blackcatter...

onnet 21/03/04                     DCCCXCV

I ask you to forgive me for my greed
In wanting your attention. I would take
All you might give, and more. Season dreams wake,
And I find in my longing I would plead
For all of you: Yet, should I let my need
Consume all sense? I would rather you stay
As muse, and distant, than risk that you say
I am a bother, and not sonnets read.
What can I ask of you, that you'd reply
With words to feed my heart? How can I dare
To seek for passion, when I do not know
What you would want of me? How can I try
To give my heart, when you already care
For someone near? Should I my envy show?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 12:56 AM

That's what they all say.

I want some octopus!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 01:22 AM

i prefer calmari...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 01:28 AM

squid - the invertabrate for the person who can handle manly-sized suckers.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 01:30 AM

have you ever had calmari stuffed with veal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 01:36 AM

Ain't I nice, setting you up for post 900?

I haven't eaten veal in years - Seems like it'd be an odd combination.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 01:45 AM

actually quite good- has to be seasoned correctly.


Sonnet 24/03/04                     DCCCXCVI

My muse returns, with spring within her eyes
To bring the blossoms, and new growth in heart.
She gives dreams reason to sing, and to prize
Each moment as chance that new hopes might start.
How shall I find words that might my mood share,
To show how much I need this hope? I seek
To reflect some of light, to show I care
For more than my desires: Dare my heart speak?
Her quiet glance shows all that I might want:
A friend, and muse, and love. What can heart add
To such a look? Can I find dreams to haunt
My soul, and let this lonely heart be glad?
She is still beyond reach, but might hearts touch,
To give my soul a chance to care too much?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 03:49 AM

and thanks- i'll see if i can do the same for you at 1k.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 04:25 AM

MMmmmm Octopus, Calamari...I adore them both! Having lived in Greece for a decade gave me the equivalent of a tentacled-sweet-tooth.

And of course, watching the fishermen there as they repeatedly slap their squid against the rocks (while lasciviously gazing at any foreign woman lolling nearby trying to get her tourist-tan) to keep them soft (yes, the metaphor doesn't completely hold together) once again proves that food is one of the best aphrodesiacs there is.

My wasband cooked a mean fried calamari, but for mezi, the dried-in-the-sun-roasted octopothi, and cut into little bite-sized pieces of heaven, is bliss.

...xx..(Still on my diet,sigh)..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 04:54 AM

they gaze lasciviously to keep them soft? Or do they slap their squid against the foreign women? hmmm....

are you sure you want to have started this?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 04:58 AM

oh, i see... the fishermen repeatedly slap their squids against the rocks to keep them soft. sounds painfull.

a metsphor? not a direct observation?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 05:30 AM

OK Ok...they slapped their squids to keep them soft isn't the best metaphor for slapping themSELVES to keep them HARD!

Sheesh! I hardly thought I'd have to explain this to YOU, BB!

Now, you do understand that they were looking at the girls in a sexual manner, and NOT because they were hungry?

Then again, OMG, this could go on and on, couldn't it???



Time for another sonnet??

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 05:44 AM

as you wish...


Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCVII

I would not ever choose to cause you pain
Or have you think I do not care. I try
To be what you might need, that hope might gain
Another smile, or dreams to you might fly.
Might words be music to you, and my lines
Give pleasure, and a smile? Might I hope eyes
That give dreams look at me, and find some signs
Of what I feel, that I might dreams realize?
I cannot tire of caring, nor of dreams
That bring you to my arms: Yet, I desire
You find what you might need. My own soul seems
To balance upon what your dreams require.
Shall I be jealous that you have love found?
Can truest concern be by desires bound?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 07:14 AM

How about an sonnet to squid...an ode to octopus?   paean to prawns?
lobster limericks...will the invertebrate use of poetry never cease?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 09:00 AM

They stick their hand up inside it, and pull it inside-out before slapping it too!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Cheryl the Feral
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 09:13 AM

Sometimes I feel like sticking my hand up a few of these uptight arses and givin a big internal yank a wank.

The good thing about this thread is that its long. But...pooetry?
Couldnt give a squid for off the planet romance and fantasy thats oozing out of some neo-squid.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 10:42 AM

My wasband

Ellen - my guess is that that wasn't a typo. I've never seen that before and I like it!

Yet more proof the the ladies of Mudcat are the most wunnerful women it the world.


Well, this is obvious but:

Octopus's Garden

I'd like to be, under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade
He'd let us in, knows where we've been
in his octupus' garden, in the shade.

I'd ask my friends to come and see
An octopus' garden with me
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade.

We would be warm, below the storm
In our little hideaway beneath the waves
Resting our head, on the sea bed
In an octopus' garden near a cave

We would sing and dance around
because we know we can't be found
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade

We would shout and swim about
The coral that lies beneath the waves
(Lies beneath the ocean waves)
Oh what joy for every girl and boy
Knowing they're happy and they're safe
(Happy and they're safe)

We would be so happy you and me
No one there to tell us what to do
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden with you
In an octupus' garden with you
In an octupus' garden with you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 10 Jun 04 - 05:33 PM

Cheryl---Owoooo...Cheryl...I long fer yooooo....Owooooo! I can score free beer and a pizza. Be mine!

BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 03:59 AM

Thanks for the song, Blackcatter, and yes "wasband" is my very own invention of which I am quite proud. Please feel free to use it or pass it along. It may in the end be my only true creative legacy.

You mentioned on the Pasta thread that you incorporated those songs into your act. Ever had a recording made?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 11:50 AM

Well I doubt I'll ever refer to my "wasband," but I'll pass it along to my women and gay friends.

No recordings, I'm afraid other than as part of local concerts. I've ben working lately with a good friend to put together a duo. I don't play guitar so I typically sing a'capella. But I also play tin whistle & jews harp.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 11:56 AM

Ah, I didn't think you'd have need of that word personally, m'dear. Happy you have women friends to pass it on to.


For me the true mark of an enlightened man is his ability to HAVE women friends, so good on ya!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 05:51 PM

42:

Never!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 10:49 AM

Whew! Go off line for two weeks and look what happens! I am now going to be late for work. Oh, well. I'm on restricted duty at the moment, so wasn't really looking forward to going in and painting the stupid trashcan anyway! BTW, when we don't have the trashcan in the parking lot, we have LESS litter in the park! Go figure!

Yesterday I rescued a horseshoe crab that some young wretch had turned upside down and left on the beach at low tide. Poor thing was waving it's feet and spiny tail desperately, when I came along. Oh, and our osprey family should be hatching out baby osprey any day now. How about a sonnet for them, BB?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: saulgoldie
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 02:58 PM

How can last last?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 09:54 PM

Interesting conundrum. Not long on this thread, for certain!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 10:49 PM

"Oh, and our osprey family should be hatching out baby osprey any day now. How about a sonnet for them, BB? "

Any more info? numbe of eggs, habits of parents, location?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:38 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 11:04 PM

Blackcatter:

Forget the words?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 02:04 AM

too often, I do.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 02:29 AM

a common failing- we have so many some keep falling out...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:32 AM

"Oh, and our osprey family should be hatching out baby osprey any day now."

All I could think of when I read this was, "were they expecting something else?".

Speaking of osprey, I remember kyacking off Victoria Island, up in the Pacific NW, and watching an osprey hit the water and come away holding a magnificent fish in it's talons. It was just a moment of pure bliss to watch (though I imagine not for the fish).

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:37 AM

osprey are fans of sashimi?

8-{E


do i need to put my latest sonnet up here? the beast poet thread has fallen off, again- it would be impolitic of me to refresh it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 09:08 AM

"...beast poet..."

Is that you BB :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 11:37 AM

Just the other day I saw a bald eagle fish a snook out of the St. John's River . Remarkable, considering that the snook must have weighed 15 lbs.

I sure wish I could catch snook that easily.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 05:02 AM

So close to being the last on this thread, Blackcatter! But I just had to........


REFRESH!



..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 06:48 AM

thanks ellenopoly...i was too lazy to go past the end of the page but had a query i thought someone might be able to illuminate

if impeccable means (loosely speaking of course) without flaw

would the origins of 'peccable' have anything to do with aggressive actions inflicted upon chickens by their peers?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 07:43 AM

and is the fist time something said a "peat"?

I thought Tang was the Beast Poet...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,rat's arse
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 08:57 AM

I wondered lonely as a rat
that skulked down low in gutters dank
when all at once i saw a Cat
and thought - o jaysus, what a wank
along the thread first here then there
fluttered and dangled much hot air
continous as the wind that winds
and thunders through the mudcat way
i saw, with never ending rhyme
this thread survived another day.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 09:15 AM

OK, BB, here's more info for you.
Osprey usually lay three eggs, reddish-brown with brown splotches, about the size of large chicken eggs. Our pair of osprey nest in the top of the largest white pine on a very small island about 100 feet from shore. Mum sits on the eggs and Dad does the fishing, but they do swap off nest duty fairly often. The female is about 1/3 bigger than the male, with a wingspan of almost 6 feet. Osprey eat only fish. After hatching, the young will be fed regurgitant for the first 10 days, afetr that, the parents will be kept busy feeding each baby osprey apx. 2 lbs of fish per day. They double in size every week for about the first five weeks, ending up the same size as the parents at the end of that time. The osprey in Maine are migratory, flying as far south as Peru. Our little osprey will have to be self-sufficient by the middle of September, which is when migration takes place. Also, during incubation and while the babies are small, the parent osprey will chase off all other birds that they consider a threat, but are vulnerable to human disturbance, especially kayakers paddling too close to the nest. Last year, the nest was abandoned after hatching because of a large watersports festival and hordes of people paddling right up to the island. The chicks died, either due to exposure, starvation of they got eaten while the parents were spooked off. We're hoping for better guidance on the part of the festival organizers this year.
So, BB, was that enough info for a sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 09:29 AM

give me some time to work on it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 10:26 AM

Nerf!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 11:45 AM

Hey, I went almost 24 hours - that has to at least be a record.


peccable comes from the Latin peccare - to go wrong.

peck comes from the Middle English & Middle Flemish pekken to pick.

the words have not direct connection.

Can anyone with the OED go further?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 10:54 AM

not going to let this drop off... working on ospreys...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 11:16 AM

Ok, that's two days in a row that I went almost 24 hours.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 12:55 PM

gee, is 24 hours the magic number? I think I have a couple of threads older than that that I was the only post to... I must have been boring enough.

                   8-{E

But this thread can never die- too many of us keep looking for it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 10:15 PM

If you say so. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 10:48 PM

The XS-1 (X-1)

The designation "XS-1" stood for eXperimental Sonic. The mission of the XS-1 was to investigate the transonic speed range (speeds from just below to just above the speed of sound) and, if possible, to break the "sound barrier."

The planes (there were 3 XS-1 built) have become commonly known as X-1. Not only was it the first aircraft to travel supersonic, it was the first in a line of X aircraft leading eventually to the space shuttle. Because the U.S. was in the midst of WWII, only Bell Aircraft was able to take on the project in 1944. The configuration which was developed was a thin, straight-winged aircraft with a bullet-shaped fuselage. The XS-1 began flight testing in 1946 and eventually Chuck Yeager flew it through the sound barrier on October 14, 1947.

When Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier, he did so over the desert of Southern California. But the beginning flights were conducted in the skies over Orlando, Florida. Eleven flight tests took place between January 19 and March 6, 1946. These preliminary tests were important to find if the XS-1 would prove to be airworthy and stable enough to reach the speed of sound.

The XS-1 were 31 feet long and had a wingspan of 28 feet. They were built of aluminum stressed-skin construction to extremely high structural standards. The XS-1 carried only enough fuel for about 5 minutes of flight and because of that, it was launched from under the wing of a B-29. For it's tests in Orlando, it was actually unpowered. The process was primarily of the XS-1 being dropped in mid-air and gliding it down to a landing.

The test pilot for all the Orlando flights of the XS-1 was Bell Aircraft pilot Jack Woolams. Woolams was born in 1917 and died at the end of 1946, less than a year after his work with the XS-1.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Jun 04 - 11:11 PM

Huh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 04:04 AM

Huh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 04:27 AM

Take this hammer, carry it to the Captain
Huh
Take this hammer carry it to the Captain
Huh
Take this hammer carry it to the captain
You can tell him I'm gone
Tell him I'm gone
Huh

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 07:13 AM

huhnkahuhka burnin' love

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 11:58 AM

Ranger1:

Well, not sure this is what you might want- but blame my Muse...

I am not sure I like it, but here it is:


Sonnet 17/06/04                        CMXIX

Three future hunters rest, almost to sky
At top of pine, and wait for food. They grow,
With busy parents' care, and soon will fly
To winter in a far off land. They show
The cycle of all life: To win their lives
From other's death. In truth, they risk as much,
With such uncertain fate. For now, each thrives,
But balance might at any time life touch.
Can any of us future know, to tell
Our time of ending? Each of us might fall
At any moment: Does wishing all well
Make difference in what occurs at all?
Life's thread is spun, woven, and cut: The hell
We find in soul is what each one might call.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 11:00 PM

BB, I like! One fact I left out is that inexperienced young osprey have been known to try to catch fish that weigh more than they do and haven't been able to disengage their talons quick enough, thus drowning after a mighty dive.
May I have your permission to copy this and share it with my fellow rangers?
Oh, and I'm last!!! For a couple of minutes, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 12:43 AM

Wonky fingers!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 09:52 AM

OK, but I got post #950!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: rainbow_girl
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 11:01 AM

post #951!!! ha ha

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 03:32 PM

post toasties!




























YUM!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 04:39 PM

And then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 08:02 PM

And I got this post which is a prime number. HA HA!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 04 - 08:05 PM

Balls, it wasn't a prime number. Shit, now I have to come back and wait for this thing to load, and like what's that about, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 02:45 AM

All the numbers under which I post are prime in my mind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 06:08 AM

the last post (fanfare please) is actually the penultimate

OK OK I ain't reading every post just to check if it has been done already

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 09:36 AM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz.....OH! Talking about anything interesting?



Nope?



ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:01 AM

I rescued an upside down horseshoe crab last week, the one-flowered wintergreen is in bloom, and we still have a gazillion ladyslippers. And osprey chicks. We have hatchout! Yay!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:08 AM

Congrats Ranger!

I have a peacock sleeping on my front stoop this morning. I wonder if he'll let me go to church?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:12 AM

I'm cat-sitting at a friend's house while my own is being ransacked by it's former tenant who left all his crap with us for a decade.

The cat is staring at the rain out the window, and I'm feeling glad to have such good friends who'll take me in while chaos reigns at home.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 10:36 AM

My cats are staring out at all the other cats in the neighborhood. Caitlin is hurling threats and insults, knowing that she's safe inside, and Go-Go is warbling away at absolutely nothing at all, in her elderly, Alzheimer kitty way. Clancy Dog, on the other hand, is having a mid-morning nap after his morning romp/sniff/swim on at the beach. And he NEVER yells insults out the window at other animals, people or annoying landlords. Definitely the least annoying and best behaved of the three pets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 02:32 PM

I just may have to adopt this damn peacock. This is the third time this week he's spent the night in my driveway. I don't know why he's decided to go it alone from the neighborhood about a mile away that had 40-50 peacocks and hens. But hey - I'm a single guy who's not really interested in dating right now either, so what the hell.

So what's a good name for a peacock?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 03:15 PM

I'm partial to Ding Dong. Has a nice ring to it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 03:51 PM

If you've asked the peacock what it's name is, and it answers, then you'll know. If it only screams at you in that really annoyingly shrill peacock way, then it's an indication that you need to mind your own business...

Or name it Fluffy and piss the hell out of it.

Just my opinion of course....I'm really only here because ranger1 pm'd me and said I had to hang around and not let ted el get the 1000th post.

But, ranger1...if your shower is over...no way I'm staying online till then! Sorry.

Anyone else want to take up the challenge?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 06:06 PM

My Peacock answers to the name Elizabeth.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 11:10 PM

You have a peacock named Elizabeth?

Ellen - he doesn't say anything to me. I'll wait to name him after I get back from vacation.

I'm leaving in a few hours to fly to California for a week. It's the Unitarian Universalist General Annual Assembly and I'm one of the delegates.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jun 04 - 11:13 PM

By the way, don't let this thread die while I'm gone. Unless, of course, this is the last post.

I might be checking in from Long Beach, but I don't know if I'll have time. If not, I'll talk to to you all a week from Tuesday.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 03:51 AM

dont worry it is in safe hands.

Nurse clamp please!


QUICKLY!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 07:25 AM

ranger1:


"BB, I like! One fact I left out is that inexperienced young osprey have been known to try to catch fish that weigh more than they do and haven't been able to disengage their talons quick enough, thus drowning after a mighty dive.

Hmmm... do the ending does fit...

"May I have your permission to copy this and share it with my fellow rangers?"

feel free to give it to whomever might appreciate it...

"Copyright B. Gewirz" , if anyone wants to make money off it, send me a cut! I retain all rights, but give free use to NPS.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 08:53 AM

sorry.."Hmmm... So the ending does fit..."


and constructive feedback is always welcome.

                                                      8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 09:06 AM

I'm not going to let lack of poetry kill this thread.

                                                8-{E


Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCVIII

I miss my muse, though I know she'll return
And bring her smile to light my dreams. I find
I cannot think that my poor words might earn
Enough of her attention to hopes bind.
I try to tell my dreams, but all I say
Does not true hopes reveal as my heart sees.
I want her happiness: What must soul pay
To win a world that listens to my pleas?
I offer all I dare, to passions show,
Yet find she gives far more with just her eyes.
I am enthralled- How can I angel know
And not have heart be captured by her sighs?
She is desire, made real and warm and sweet:
How can I not want to her dreams complete?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 09:34 AM

BB, thanks for the permission. I actually work for the State of MAine, though. I'm starting my 20th year this month. It's funny, because I keep getting people who ask me if I'm part of the junior ranger program! I used to be insulted, now I'm amused, and in a couple of years I'll be flattered.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 09:45 AM

permission granted to all state and federal agencies that are involved with the preservation of nature.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,But...
Date: 21 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM

It won't be beardedbruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 04:05 AM

So how is everybody today?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 04:19 AM

I'm fine thanks agape mou, apart from a surfeit of sonnets. Are they worse than Lampreys?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 07:16 AM

one cannot be too good looking, or have too much money, or too many sonnets...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 07:59 AM

and it takes two to tango
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 08:03 AM

but only one to dream...




Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCIX

I see within your eyes another world
Where hope is measured by how much you smile.
You glance at me, and all of soul is curled
Around your pen: Can my verse find a style
To win your favor? Should I dream of lips
That whisper words of hope, or even pray
For chance that I might kiss? My desire slips
Into all I dream, and all that I say.
I cannot pen control: It dashes on
To speak on page of things I have no right
To ask, or dream. How can I live upon
My hopes, when dream is begging for heart's sight?
I should not think to such a fool remain:
In truth, I cannot heart's desire obtain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM

now that one was lovely!

j

do you tango?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 06:08 AM

Sorry. I do not dance.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 06:12 AM

but...unlesss you're in another time zone...you do rise early
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 06:27 AM

My flatmate is taking tango lessons. He's going on 66, and has more energy than folks half his age.




Though it might of course, be the Lampreys...


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 07:19 AM

EDT- naer Washington, DC.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 07:42 AM

There is a slight chance that I may be able to persuade William Shatner to post to this thread in another 14 posts from now! Stay tuned...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 07:56 AM

LH,

Is that REALLY needed? Doesn't he have something important to do, elsewhere? Far, far, away?

8-{E


time for another sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jun 04 - 08:06 AM

Sonnet 27/03/04                            CM

Be mine, sweet muse, that I might hold you near
And not think that I must soon let you go.
I want you in my arms: Should I make clear
How much I want your love? Words do not show
All that you mean, nor how heart aches to feel
The touch of skin, and warmth of my desire.
I long to trace all of your curves, to seal
All of you into heart, and dreams inspire.
Could lips tell more than pen? I would kiss try
To longings speak: How could I passions hold
From life, and action? Could dreams hope to fly
To one who all of dreams has to heart told?
You are the one that heart would passions give,
But can I tell of hopes, and let dreams live?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 06:26 AM

another day, another sonnet... got to bring this back to the top before it falls off.


Sonnet 29/03/04                           CMI

I want to reach out to my muse, but fear
I would not have will to ever let go.
Shall I risk heart, that I might hold her near,
When I've no reason that she should love show?
Shall I dream of my muse, and love return
For all her smiles? What would she want of me,
When I can give no thing that dreams not earn
From hope, and cannot hope to her eyes see?
Can I tame passions and chain my desire,
To harness heart to reason? Could I feel
That she is just vision that dreams inspire,
And I should not think I might make dreams real?
I dare not ask for heart's desire, to spend
Some time with muse, that she might my heart mend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:27 AM

BB, you're on the last lap for getting your sonnets all the way to post 1000.

I say, do it now and put ted el out of his misery!

Shatner won't mind. I bet he's got copies of your poems all over his bedroom.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:35 AM

Ellenpoly,

That would not be fair of me... ANYONE could just fill in 10 messages. I might post another one or two, but I am trying to limit myself...

8-{E

so, reconsider getting to the Getaway? Sushi awaits...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:38 AM

992

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:39 AM

993

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:40 AM

994

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:41 AM

995

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:42 AM

996

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:42 AM

997

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:43 AM

998

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:43 AM

onnet 31/03/04                                       CMII

She lights my dreams with her sweet smile, and gives
To heart the hope that spring will offer chance
To show a part of what in her glance lives:
A way of seeing all that feeds romance.
The thought of her lends passion to my night
And longing when I wake to bright sunrise.
I want her in my arms, to hold her tight,
And fall to sleep looking into her eyes.
What can I say, to tell what dreams have found
Within her words? Her thoughts reach to my soul,
And hold my heart: Heart is by my hopes bound,
And dreams seem to be by sweet muse made whole.
Muse brings the sunshine to a dreary day,
When all of world seems to be dark and gray.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:44 AM

1000?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:44 AM

1000

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:45 AM

BB, WELL! El ted does NOT share your sensibilities!!!

Man, I am so tempted here..but of course you're right.

Then again...

Sushi sounds so good to me right now...but...

Remember you've got an offer to trade smoked salmon for a roof in London...;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:48 AM

See? I was so busy writing, I missed the 100th post! Sounds like you guys both claimed it simultaneously.

My vote (once again) goes to BB for not just counting down the bloody posts! Shame shame el ted. Go back into your corner now.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: el ted
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 08:48 AM

Rats! I missed!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 09:10 AM

Wesseldorf is just down the road from Unternauerstadt.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 10:14 AM

What does that have to do with the price of sushi on the roof of a London flat?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 12:00 PM

I think if you've got to cheat to get something as unimportant as the 1000th post, then you must lead a very boring life. What's more by cheating like that you are automatically disqualified. God how juvenile, tut tut!!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 03:45 PM

Just thought, if you subtract the 7 consecutive threads which artificially boosted the count, then mine is the real 1000th, but I don't care about things like that, so there!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 03:53 PM

but then you would need to remove all the other "padding" entries, for previous significant numbers...

Anyway, now I can post more sonnets without being accused of padding... ( as I duck for cover)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 04:07 PM

of course, in hexidecimal this post would be A...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 04:42 PM

Yes, but who will be FIRST to be last? Or has that already happened? And who will be last to be first? If you split the difference, what do you get?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 04:45 PM

broken differences?

difference dust?

difference chips?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 05:12 PM

inference

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 05:15 PM

I'm so happy school's over!

now I can spend all day sending specious messages to the cat and hit every significant number.

I can rant about the miniscule details that irritate me without alienating many folks I have to see on a day to day basis.

I can gain wisdom and insight from poets and fools.

For what more could a human being long?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 05:18 PM

there is a difference between poets and fools?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 06:14 PM

now that we are over a kilo-post here, should we refer to this as "IETSHTBL"? or IETSH2BL?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 04 - 06:24 PM

j - an entire set of Bob Dylan bootlegged performance CD's, spiritual enlightenment, and a newly moulded 1/32nd scale Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien kit by Hasegawa! (it's an airplane)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 08:01 AM

I KNOW it's an airplane!

What would I do with all this middle-aged angst if I ever captured spiritual enlightenment.

Don't tempt me with Dylan! I know where you live!

Fools wear pointy hats and bells on their ankles.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 12:30 PM

and poets? what do we wear?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 02:51 PM

Read Gormenghast for the best description ever of a poet. I'll look it up if nobody else knows it.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 02:54 PM

Found it!

"It was a long head.

"It was a wedge, a sliver, a grotesque slice in which it seemed the features had been forced to stake their claims, and it appeared that they had done so in a great hurry, and with no attempt to form any kind of symmetrical pattern for their mutual advantage.

"...the mouth opened and a voice as strange and deep as the echo of a lugubrious ocean stole out into the morning. Never was a face so belied by its voice."

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 02:59 PM

j - Your middle-aged angst would vanish in a sea of love, and like that song of mine...you would see beauty wherever you chose to look. You would see the suffering and imperfection in the World too, but it is the beauty that would impress itself upon you regardless, because it is eternal. The other stuff passes away. Like waves on the restless sea, they pass away. Yet the ocean remains, tranquil in its depths.

If I get there, I'll let you know. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 04:19 PM

if you get there LH you won't have to tell anyone!

poets wear whatever suits their fancy.

speaking of which...I have six loads of laundry to fold.

later

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 04:26 PM

ah, but my fancy does not say what would suit her...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 08:08 PM

You have the weirdest emoticon I've seen yet, BB. How about shaving off the beard?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 25 Jun 04 - 11:32 PM

Looking at his emoticon, I get the impression of fangs. Are you a vampire bb?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 04 - 08:27 PM

Little Hawk-

YOU might consider taking a knife to your secondary sexual charactoristics, but I would not.

JennyO:

Depends on the neck

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Jun 04 - 10:15 PM

I wonder if that's where the term "fancy man" originated?

the beard would have to be a tertiary sexual characteristic - right after a smile and before graceful hands.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 04 - 10:24 PM

warm hands...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 04 - 10:33 PM

another sonnet...

Sonnet   07/04/04                         CMIII

To know that muse will someday tell me all
That words might mean, and if they reach, to touch
Her soul: That is enough for me to fall
Into my dreams and all of passions clutch.
She gives me hope for future, and the chance
To find my dreams in life. I do not know
If ever my words on her lips might dance,
Or see in eyes any of passion's glow.
I dare not wake, from dream: Heart almost holds
Sweet muse, within. All that I want, to heal
Past sorrows, heart can see. What desire molds,
I find no flaw in: Yet, are desires real?
I cannot doubt my feelings, nor her smile:
She is the one that gives verse hope for style.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 03:57 AM

Thread slipped off the first page...and no way BB is going to be the last. Sorry honey!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:09 AM

no problem, Ellenpoly. But, as we were reminded, nice guys always finish last....

Hey, I was hoping to be able to post more sonnets!


Sonnet   09/04/04                      CMIV

What do I ask of muse, that I need fear
She would not send me smile? I am a fool
To think that dreams upset her: It is clear
She would not knowingly act to be cruel.
What do I want of muse, that I dreams hide
When they are honest image of concern?
Why do words hesitate to hopes confide,
When heart would more than just her sweet smile earn?
What do I seek of muse, that I am scared
To ask to hold her in my arms, and search
For all of heaven in her eyes? I've dared
Far more, for less: Would hopes my heart besmirch?
Yet, I cannot risk even hope of chance
That I might someday find stars in her glance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Gillian Nerdsworth
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:25 AM

What do I ask of mudcat, that I need fear
It would not send me cheer? I am a charmer
To think that dreams upset it: It is clear
The Cat is eternal, I am but a llama.
What do I want of threads, when verses share
such rhyming convolutions I have told?
Why do words in patterns so compare,
When ego seeks through verse to then unfold?
Why do I seek the cat, am I but scared
I may not find in Penguin or in print, and search
For publication in its threads? I've dared
Far less, for more: continuous rhymes I share with threads that lurch
Yet, I keep on, and still stick out my neck
That I might some day find a publisher with a cheque.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:40 AM

needs a lot of work on scansion. And charmer/llama???????

Keep at it, though.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:51 AM

but this stanza is not bad.... needs some work on the third line...


"What do I want of threads, when verses share
such rhyming convolutions I have told?
Why do words in patterns so compare,
When ego seeks through verse to then unfold?"

How about "Why do words in such patterns so compare,"?


and the couplet would be better as

"Yet, I keep on, and still stick out my neck
That I might find publisher with a cheque. "


I am not sure there is anything in the first or third stanza to work with....

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:56 AM

but as a reward, here is another sonnet...


Sonnet 13/04/04                         CMV

What can I tell muse that would show my mind
And longing for the dreams she offers heart?
How can I with fears of upsetting part,
And hopes for smile within heart and soul bind?
Is there a path to my desires, to find
All I might want to be within my reach?
Can I find words to say, to feelings teach,
Or visions of her light, when soul is blind?
Yet, I find just the thought of her is source
For hope, and dreams, and vision: Might I send
A tithe of my emotions? Dare I give
An echo of the song dreams of smile lend?
I cannot help but hope that hopes might live,
And I might forget all of past remorse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 04:57 AM

pray look beyond the structure to the thought
or else all words are shells that come to nought..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 05:05 AM

If you had successfully formed the structure, I might have been more likely to consider the content...


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 05:19 AM

Pray, think again, and try to find the wit
To satorize, and not just type out sh__.

8_{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 11:29 AM

Concupiciousness!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 Jun 04 - 11:34 AM

Good word to begin a sonnet, LH

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 06:57 AM

LH,

True, but misspelled...

8-{E



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Main Entry: con·cu·pis·cence
Pronunciation: kän-'kyü-p&-s&n(t)s, k&n-
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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 09:24 AM

oh goody.
grammar wars.
satirize?
sonnet structure?

Yet,in the warped weft we weave, no design deigns to deceive
but follow threads'delightful path;grasp cat's last languishing laugh.

(this is harder than it looks)
(warped as a two syllable word)
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 09:33 AM

Yet,in the warped weft we weave,
no design deigns to wit deceive
but follow threads'delightful path;
grasp cat's last languishing long laugh.



works better- tetrameter couplets..

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 11:40 AM

we can but attempt. I think sonnets need to be spoken to realize their full impact...preferably on a riverbank with a bottle of wine.

but it's raining here.

Thanks for the tips.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 12:23 PM

"Cease this needless clamour, you concupiscient little animal!"

That's what I yell at Rennie, the miniature dachshund when he starts raving away about something. It has no useful effect, since he responds by raving back at me, but I still enjoy saying it. It bugs the little monster. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 01:10 PM

A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and thou...

I have the wine, but can't drink it... What river do you want to be by?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Jun 04 - 09:28 PM

the Styx.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 04:36 AM

I see someone has resurrected the MBPC thread. I wonder if they might appreciate sonnets over there?
Giok....Living near Hope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 07:42 AM

you're just hoping we'll all give up so you can be last.

How about the river of Babylon?

j

Subject: ADD: MURRUMBIDGEE WATER
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 09:11 AM

the murrumbidgee is the river for me. and here are the words to a beautiful song by John Warner about this great Australian river..

MURRUMBIDGEE WATER

Born in the highland snows,
Wild in her youth's descending,
Swiftly she fills and grows
Out on her floodplains, winding and bending,
Feeding the towering gums,
Bush in creek and gully,
Sharing her bounties wide,
Spreading soil in plain and valley.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

Over her years of floods,
Current twisting wild and strong,
Children she made in the land,
Creek and anabranch, pond and billabong.
Bright on the wide floodplain
Glints the rippling water,
Proudly side by side,
Flow the mother and the daughter.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

We have known the drought, we have seen her anger,
Hurling trees in her rage, we've borne thirst and we've borne hunger.
Yet for us who seek, beauty waits in hiding,
In some shaded pools wait the fruits of her providing.

Silver mist like hair,
As the day is dawning,
Marks the river's way
As we hunt on a winter's morning,
Duck and cod from the stream,
Fruit and fungus, plant and seed,
Kangaroo on the plain,
See, she gives us all we need.

Murrumbidgee fair, Murrumbidgee fertile,
Nurturing at your breasts we who walk here for a little while.
High on a ridge we stand, gazing in love and awe
Over the lands you made with your gentle hands: how rich the gifts you pour.

© John Warner 25.05.98

...............................................
Written by John Warner for the song and verse cycle, Yarri of Wiradjuri, which tells of the heroism of Aboriginal Australians in saving the lives of white settlers when the original township of Gundagai was destroyed by flood in 1852. Murrumbidgee Water - the second song in the cycle - celebrates the river and its importance to the indigenous people and establishes the Murrumbidgee River and Morley's Creek as the Mother and the Daughter

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 10:38 AM

Now that's what you call poetry!
Giol

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Jul 04 - 11:51 PM

did you think a measley 36 hour gap would allow you to avoid 2nd lastness?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 03:27 AM

Post 1055!!!!

Wow! I feel so fulfilled!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 05:34 AM

Whoops! I guess THIS is post 1055.




Delayed gratification.





..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 06:11 AM

...the best kind.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 06:45 AM

(new sonnet posted on Care&Feeding of Muses Thread...

and for you all...

Sonnet 14/04/04                                       CMVI

Can springtime offer me more than I find
In dreams of you? I do not hope to see
A flower to match lips, nor one to be
As soft as look in eyes. I have in mind
Rebirth enough for world: If you are kind,
I will to heavens reach, and brush your cheek
With lips. If only I might hear you speak
Soft words of hope, I would to past be blind.
But, dream does not fill arms, nor lend the gift
Of sharing your sweet looks. I remain far
From heart's desire: I must from your words sift
What hope I can. You remain distant star,
To guide my heart: For now, your smile will lift
My spirits up, and melancholy bar.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:27 AM

Bruce I hate to be a Phillistine [Phyllis Stein ?] but I for one am sonnet satiated, and thought you were overdoing them to the extent of egotism. However to post the same one to two different threads is extracting the urine. Or is it an effort to bore us away so you can be last?
Giok
[That'll make me popular won't it?]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:34 AM

Giok;

I posted a different one to the other thread- that one is CMXX, my latest. This is a continuing stream in numerical order.

And isn't the intent to be last?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 07:37 AM

And if this is not the thread for blatent, unbounded egotism, what is?

Everything to excess! Moderation is for monks.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 09:22 AM

Giok:

please see my post of 22 Jun 04 - 07:16 AM


My sonnets are like smoking- an addiction. But you have the choice to not read them. Feel free to coment on them, if you have anything constructive to say. I do try to keep it to one a day, unless I am provoked.

8-{E


Ellenpoly,

re delayed gratification- You might plan to attend next year's Getaway...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 10:37 PM

I'm back.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 03:53 AM

Who he?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 05:31 AM

We've missed you Blackcatter!!!

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 06:05 AM

Sonnet 16/04/04                            CMVII

I brush my muse's lips, and touch her cheek,
With thought of her soft skin. How can I reach
To touch her heart? What can I say, to teach
The pleasure her smile gives? My words are weak,
Compared to strength of passion my dreams seek:
All I desire would only give me cause
To want for more: Yet, longing for her draws
My verse beyond myself, to heaven speak.
I run my fingers through her hair, to hold
Some of her softness: Can I hope to feel
Her gentle dreams? I would in arms enfold,
And keep her near, if only dreams were real.
Should I think that I might of my hopes mold
Dream strong enough to her heart hope to steal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 07:50 AM

btw, I have been informed by SRS that this is a music forum, and poetry is not allowed here. I guess I will have to call all my sonnets "little songs" that are looking for tunes.

Better be careful what you say- if you upset SRS, we might be forbidden to discuss politics, or chimps' love lives...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 08:10 AM

I thought this was a BS thread. Where better to expose poetry?

j

sorry if this came three times. My computer seems to be misbehaving.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 08:23 AM

42:

So did I, but I have been told otherwise.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 12:31 PM

So what's the tune that fits a sonnet? There must be one. & BB - you've been around here long enough to ingore every suggestion you wish to ignore.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 12:36 PM

I have no idea what tune will fit- any ideas?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 01:39 PM

Over the Hills and Faraway?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 02:09 PM

No, that works better with tetrameter lines...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 06:45 AM

I'm a bit confused. Just who on earth said you couldn't post poetry??? From past threads, this is certainly something long-standing around here.

Are you sure you didn't get up somebody's nose*, BB?

..xx..e

(PS-*It's an English expression, by the by, and one I thoroughly love.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 07:21 AM

Ellenpoly,

It seems like I made the mistake of thinking that SRS was an adult.

" a cyber weed which had entangled itself through the threads like poison ivy - streaking through from thread to thread like a stubborn, determined particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse.

Poetry. Now, she wasn't completely averse to verse - she was even known to mutter of few rhymes herself on occasion, when the mood took her. But - a rhyme attack. How long would it last? It was thread creep of a new and sinister nature - the very nature of the site was being highjacked - this is a music site, she thought, not a poetry sharing forum.

Was this really a poet, she thought, or is it a political incursion by a particularly dastardly form of trolling - destroying the vibrant nature of the site by attempting to bore us all into slinking away. she noticed how many people hadjust walked away from particlar threads.

Now she beleived in freedome of speech - well, once she did. But she had decided to go to her local MP and lobby for restrictions on rhyme. It was all too much."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 07:31 AM

so, now for a little song....


Sonnet 24/04/04                                       CMVIII

Shall I whisper my passions in her ears
To tell what I would of this sweet one ask?
Should I admit I cannot control fears
That she might find cause to take me to task?
I am a fool, to think she does not know
The longing in heart for a gentle touch.
Yet, do I wish to all of longings show,
With reason to think that I care too much?
But I must give my soul, to one who brings
Such hope to all my dreams. I owe her more
Than words might pay: Hers is the voice that sings
The hymns that of my future form the core.
She is my muse, and friend: How might I share
My lusts, and not lose all for which I care?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 08:54 AM

at the risk (about 100% I figure) of looking foolish...who(or what) the heck is an SRS? and why should she/it/they care how many catters cling to this thread?

I'm confused...probably not for the last time.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:03 AM

SRS is Stilly River Sage - who seems to not like my verse, after finding out that I do not agree politically.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:11 AM

bb, i think you may have jumped to a conclusion there - have you seen a recent post to that thread?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:24 AM

the one of 02 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM or the one of 02 Jul 04 - 09:30 PM ?

and this thread was not the first attack SRS has made on me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 10:29 AM

Try 03 Jul 04 - 09:45 AM.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 11:11 AM

I think you're barking up the wrong tree BB, I'm pretty sure SRS didn't start the thread. What's more it was a good natured troll in my opinion, and you took the bait, and got caught badly.
Giok [Beware the Jabberwock my son!]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 11:21 AM

No way to tell, as the poster hide as Guest. I cannot trust SRS on anything, from the past experience I have had, so ... But the posts of 02 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM and the one of 02 Jul 04 - 09:30 PM lead me to believe that SRS had a hand in it. I could be wrong- but I do not consider personal attacks on me by anyone to be reasonable. My opinions and facts can be challanged, my verse can be criticised- but on the basis of themselves, not who I am , the color of my skin, or my religion.

If someone feels that the chat threads should be restricted to music topics, let them make that case. If not, this was a direct attack on my right to post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 12:14 PM

Giok,

In any case, my original comment was

"Of the 160+ threads today, perhaps 6 have any poetry, other than song lyrics. Do I smell a troll, hiding as a guest? "

Is there some problem with pointing out a fact? It seems like it, here on Mudcat.

I then replied to your comment
" note that a certain BB is feeling paranoid, he should only feel that way if he is being got at. OK OK, feel free to be paranoid!"

with

"Giok,

I object to nasty, small-minded, mean-spirited trolls who object to anyone having any discussions they do not approve of. If that makes me paranoid, oh well. "

At this point, SRS stepped in. I have been previously attacked for having the unreasonable tendency to ask that my sources be treated the same as those of the people trying to refute me. These attacks included derision of my poetry, not on it's merits, but because I had written them.

I have made no attempt to limit other's comments, or postings. Perhaps you feel that it is appropriate to deny specific individuals of the right to post here because you disagree with them, but I do not.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:25 AM

I've never met a charming llama but I live in constant hope.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:30 AM

Could it be me, perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Poetry Archivist
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:51 PM

DESCRIPTIVE JOTTINGS OF LONDON
by William McGonagall

As I stood upon London Bridge and viewed the mighty throng
Of thousands of people in cabs and 'busses rapidly whirling along,
All furiously driving to and fro,
Up one street and down another as quick as they could go:

Then I was struck with the discordant sound of human voices there,
Which seemed to me like wild geese cackling in the air:
And the river Thames is a most beautiful sight,
To see the steamers sailing upon it by day and by night.

And the Tower of London is most gloomy to behold,
And the crown of England lies there, begemmed with precious stones and gold;
King Henry the Sixth was murdered there by the Duke of Glo'ster,
And when he killed him with his sword he called him an impostor.

St. Paul's Cathedral is the finest building that ever I did see;
There's nothing can surpass it in the city of Dundee,
Because it's most magnificent to behold
With its beautiful dome and spire glittering like gold.

And as for Nelson's Monument that stands in Trafalgar Square,
It is a most stately monument I most solemnly declare,
And towering defiantly very high,
Which arrests strangers' attention while passing by.

Then there's two beautiful water-fountains spouting up very high,
Where the weary travellers can drink when he feels dry;
And at the foot of the monument there's three bronze lions in grand array,
Enough to make the stranger's heart throb with dismay.

Then there's Mr Spurgeon, a great preacher, which no one dare gainsay
I went to hear him preach on the Sabbath-day.
And he made my heart feel light and gay
When I heard him preach and pray.

And the Tabernacle was crowded from ceiling to floor,
And many were standing outside the door;
He is an eloquent preacher, I solemnly declare,
And I was struck with admiration as I on him did stare.

Then there's Petticoat Lane I venture to say,
It's a wonderful place on the Sabbath day;
There wearing apparel can be bought to suit the young or old
For the ready cash-- silver, coppers, or gold.

Oh! mighty city of London! you are wonderful to see,
And thy beauties no doubt fill the tourist's heart with glee;
But during my short stay, and while wandering there,
Mr Spurgeon was the only man I heard speaking proper English I do declare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:19 AM

shudder....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:40 AM

ditto...+ wince!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:28 AM

and I thought we had a special thread for that one...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:31 AM

Oh. Man, does my head flippin hurt. Is it Tuesday?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:55 AM

almost.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 01:15 PM

Sunday was nice, the next day was muggy, followed by Tueggy Weggy, and Thuggy.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Poetry Archivist
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 07:55 PM

BEAUTIFUL NEWPORT ON THE BRAES O' THE SILVERY TAY
by William McGonagall

Bonnie Mary, the Maid o' the Tay,
Come! Let's go, and have a holiday
In Newport, on the braes o' the silvery Tay,
'Twill help to drive dull care away.

The scenery there is most enchanting to be seen,
Especially the fine mansions with their shrubbery green;
And the trees and ivy are beautiful to view
Growing in front of each stately home in the avenue.

There the little birds and beautiful butterflies
Are soaring heavenwards almost to the skies,
And the busy bees are to be seen on the wing,
As from flower to flower they hummingly sing,

As they gather honey all the day,
>From flowery gardens of Newport on the braes o' the Tay.
And as we view the gardens our hearts will feel gay
After being pent up in the workshop all the day.

Then there's a beautiful spot near an old mill,
Suitable for an artist to paint of great skill,
And the trees are arched o'erhead, lovely to be seen,
Which screens ye from the sunshine's glittering sheen.

Therefore, holiday makers, I'd have ye resort
To Newport on the braes o' the Tay for sport,
And inhale the pure air with its sweet perfume,
Emanating from the flowery gardens of Newport and the yellow broom.

And when bright Sol sinks in the West
You'll return home at night quite refreshed,
And dream in your beds of your rambles during the day
Along the bonnie braes o' the silvery Tay.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:11 PM

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,A poetry lover
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:59 AM

New sonnets, out of order

          v

Blue Bonnets o'er the Border.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:12 AM

poetry will never be the same since the death of the Songbird of Saskatchewan, Sarah Binks.
Her words will linger in our hearts long after all the poetry critics are gone.

"By then perhaps in unknown grave,
By burdock blown and boot betrod,
I'll lie a full seven and a half feet deep,
And push the daisies through the sod."

and that's the truth.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 11:53 AM

in the thread on Care & Feeding of Muses, we have determined that some muses like chocolate ( cake, at least) and some like carrots. This might be a better thread to continue on those lines...


Any contributions on Muse-food?

Single malt?

caviar?

good company?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 11:57 AM

I have muse-ly for breakfast sometimes.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:17 PM

and who wants 1100?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:24 PM

I think I'll have it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: CapriUni
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:28 PM

breaking the nice round number...

My muse likes ginger hot pepper and chocolate, and other sweet and spicy food -- I get the heat gets the sparks flying!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 02:45 PM

111 is Nelsons, but only at cricket.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 04:00 PM

but very few muses eat crickets, I would think...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 04:17 PM

I think that I shall never ponder
A knave as low as a proud absconder
Though passing fancy may uphold
The nurturing of a spirit bold
To waltz these wondrous fairy vales
Where princely realms have ris'n and failed
Not failed...Nay! Simply passed away
Unto that cold and sullen clay
Whence trod the armoured feet of men
Thus late emerged from field and fen
Their riotous clamour all in vain
As thro' the bright abyss of pain
A comrade strode, all blent with rage
His eyes upon the verdant page
Whence sank the hopes of troublous fools
Who vainly grope the golden rule
Not listing, nay, but sicklied o'er
By care and want and vague implore
Not caring, nay, but whistling tunes
As by the graveyard's hallowed runes
They pass, and speak, yet speak not truth
Nor maidens gaze with nameless couth
The ruthless grip of tyrants vile
Shall never take this ancient isle
As long as men of heart still stand
As long as maids of grace command
The whips and scorns of beggared souls
Shall not affright nor blanche nor scold
"Nay! Never!" Is our solemn cry
As rise we fall, as fall we rise!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 04:46 PM

LH


...
To waltz these wondrous fairy vales
Where princely realms have ris'n and failed
...
Whence sank the hopes of troublous fools
Who vainly grope the golden rule
...
The whips and scorns of beggared souls
Shall not affright nor blanche nor scold
"Nay! Never!" Is our solemn cry
As rise we fall, as fall we rise!


You need to work on the rhymes a bit. Not bad, though.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 04:52 PM

Hey, man, I just wrote that in straight stream-of-consciousness, and my intention was to write something totally silly, with an awkward rhyme here and there if at all possible. I think I more or less succeeded.

Still, it's much harder to write something truly dreadful, like William McGonagall's poems.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 05:00 PM

to aspire to reach the deepths that McGonagall has reached is beyound the grasp of mortal men...

Yes, it was a success, given your intention.

Really not bad at all...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 06:22 PM

Sonnet 30/04/04                        CMIX

I wonder if dreams are enough, to hold
My hopes from lonely death: I long to feel
The touch of skin, and know that warmth is real.
Yet, thought of you keeps heart from being cold:
Should I allow even my dreams so bold
A vision of desires? Might passions steal
Far more than needed to past heartaches heal?
Still, I'd give soul to muse in arms enfold.
I wonder if I ask too much, to find
In muse more than a friend: I hold you dear
Without a touch. But more than just your mind
Acts to attract my heart: If you were near,
I would not keep from reaching out. Resigned
To fate, I have but dream to hold back tear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:27 AM

boys...you'd bring a tear to a glass eye. stop already!!!!!

please
j
the please is a nice touch don't you think...

i slumbered lonely 'neath the shroud
that gloats o'er my old flesh and bones.
when suddenly a shout rang loud
"what now you say of sticks and stones?"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:59 AM

Everyone has their 15 minutes. You've had yours, now I've got mine.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:03 AM

well at least mine took 15 minutes to write. You can have the fame. I just want the fortune!
j

and the last post

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:05 AM

I only got 4 minutes - I'm owed another 11.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:30 AM

heh heh heh. now you owe 10 minutes.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:04 AM

You can have mine

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:07 PM

So has everyone voted for Millard Fillmore today? It's the 154th anniversary of his becoming president!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:32 PM

No, but I voted for Clinton, Washington, and Jefferson several times...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 07:51 AM

isn't that illegal?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 06:49 AM

job available...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 08:11 AM

A "little song" for Monday... Written at Longwoods Gardens...


Sonnet 07/05/04                        CMX

In blossoms heart a simple beauty finds,
With shape and color to attract the eye.
In these gardens, thought of my muse reminds
That hope might pleasure lend, to tears deny.
Breeze, perfumed, soothes a weary heart, to ease
The aches of everyday. Still, I would share
All I have found: A calm, to senses please,
And thoughts of one whose dreams are key to Care.
Sun filtered by new leaves provides a light
To show desire: A shade of bright that lends
More than a hint of longing to my sight.
Do dreams offer a future when tears end?
I plant desire, and wait for dream to grow,
But will I ever touch of my muse know?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 09:32 AM

damn you BB!!!!...dropped off the first page and I thought i had it!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 09:44 AM

a mere day... I have work shifts that last longer than that...


Sorry, but I have stated before that this thread will never die.

And yes, the please was a nice touch...


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 04:27 AM

Whoops! Nearly slipped off the end again. As the Roman Catholic priest said to the altar boy.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 06:09 AM

today's "little song"

Sonnet 07/05/04                            CMXI

I would my muse surround with love, and fill
Her nights with warmth and caring. Should I give
What she might ask, or let my own dreams live
And offer soul to one who holds heart still?
Yet, can I think I might oppose her will,
To take more than she wants? I cannot steal
What is not mine, though my desires might feel
The thought. Her smile gives hope that might past kill.
I see in her far more than smiles, but know
I should of dreams make light: I have no right
To form a future without her consent.
Yet, can I think of her, and not hopes grow
That I might touch her heart? Can dreams invite
A vision that would of concerns repent?.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 08:39 AM

reminds me of an old mashmakan song.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 08:49 AM

Oh? Has my muse been out doing research?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:34 AM

ahem.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:02 PM

yeah

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:57 PM

Hey Ellen,

How's tricks?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:02 PM

Hey Blackcatter! This thread has gone to the dogs. Wake me when it gets interesting again! ;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:30 PM

I'm just posting on it occasionally since I'll eventually be the last one.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:30 PM

this thread makes me wish that "end of the world" thread were more credible.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Fido
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:32 PM

Arf!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:45 PM

dream on!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Rover
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 03:14 PM

Woof! Woof!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 05:55 AM

Sonnet 13/05/04                                       CMXII

How can I give muse reason to be kind,
And share her thoughts? I cannot her dreams know
Without at least her words: Hope does not find
More than reflection in all my dreams show.
Perhaps I should not for her longings plead:
Can I hope to think hers match my desire?
It is not certainty of heart I need,
But hope enough that dream will Art inspire.
I cannot alter past, nor with dream mold
Tomorrow to my wish. But dream can share
A vision where I might in arms enfold
One for whose smile I choose to always care.
Though I may dream of touch, and long for lips,
It is her soul that into my heart slips.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 08:12 AM

ah ... hope!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jul 04 - 06:58 AM

Sonnet 21/05/04                         CMXIII

Might I have feather from an angel's wing,
To be a quill to write of heart's desires?
Might I have laughter that brings touch of spring,
Or smile to give the sight that hope inspires?
I ask for token that you care for one
Not near enough to try to touch your heart.
I need a focus for my thoughts, a sun
To light my dreams and show the path to art.
Might I find future in the thought of eyes
That look into my soul? How shall I seek
To hold what so far beyond my reach lies?
How can I hope to of my desires speak?
Are you the one that all of my dreams hold?
Should my arms hope to such a dream enfold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 06:23 AM

Sonnet 30/05/04                           CMXIV

Would I might fall asleep, with you within
These arms that long to hold love. Can I find
The will to stay awake, when dreams are blind
To reasons I can never your heart win?
In dream, you remain near: Hope is not sin,
To want to touch you. I'll not hide desire
To trace your curves, and kiss: I do not tire
Of passions that might let future begin.
Yet, dream is not enough: I need to know
That you have smile, and peace in mind, to give
My own heart ease. What can I send, to earn
What I would prize? How can I think to show
What dream of you now means? My hopes can live,
And all of future will to light return.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 08:33 AM

All future posts to this thread shall have either 1 line or 14.
[Apparently!]

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 08:51 AM

Giok,

You want longer verse?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 10:07 AM

BTW, if anyone wants to post here other than one or fourteen lines, I for one have no objection.

But I do find it of interest that sevral other threads that I do not post to have had poetry, recently....

Perhaps there is a crying need in many souls here on Mudcat for verse to express our thoughts?

Just my opinion...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 12:56 PM

As he rode up on his hobby-horse, waving his freshly ground axe, with his faithful doggerel by his side, "A verse, a verse, my kingom is averse" he said. While the announcer cried out, "The quatrain now arriving at platforms 5,6,7,8, and 9, is coming in sideways" All together they sang....
I could write a sonnet
About your old car's bonnet
And of the hood that's on it
To o'fender you all.

My other poem is a limerick

There was a young couple from Pitlochry
Who were having it off in the rockery
When she found he was done, before she'd begun
She said, "That's not a fuck, it's a mockery.

TTFN....Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 06:45 PM

the following is a song I wrote a few years back...


        The Parkway is a Hard Road to Travel
                (to the tune of "Richmond is a Hard Road to Travel")

        One day I went around, just to get across the town,
        Since attendance was condition of employment.
        And I knew I had to go where the traffic doesn't flow,
        Since the Green line hasn't made its first deployment.

        CHORUS:        So, roll up your windows now, and crank up the air:
                The Parkway is a hard road to travel.
                So, roll up your windows now, and crank up the air:
                The Parkway is a hard road to travel, if you dare.

        So I took the Parkway down,as I started on around,
        To get south where I could get across the river.
        Blue Plains was on my right, with the traffic sitting tight,
        And the smell was worse than over-age raw liver.

        CHORUS:

        With the Wilson up in sight, I got over to the right,
        Since the backup was a bit over a mile.
        For a half an hour or so, I could see the left lane go,
        While the right lane sat and waited all the while.

        CHORUS:

        When I finally saw the ramp, I just sat and set up camp,
        As the left lane took the exit that I needed.
        I had seen them all zip past, as I waited to the last,
        While Willie Don's new signs just went unheeded.

        CHORUS:        
                                                        4/89

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:14 AM

Refresh, though I'm not sure why

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 07:30 AM

just to get me to post another sonnet, I guess...

Sonnet 01/06/04                        CMXV

She does not know how hard it is to keep
From running there, to seek to see her smile.
She fills my thoughts: Might I hope for a while
To hold her in my dreams? I yearn for sleep
To show desire: Yet, can I from dreams reap
What I should ask of her? How can I think
That I have given care enough to link
Desire to action? Should I for hope weep?
She knows I care: But have I given sign
Of how much I want to give kiss to skin?
What should I do, to give heart hope to win
This muse from whom such longed-for passions flow?
What can I say, to any of dream show,
When all I dream is to hold her as mine?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:57 AM

Because you yourself are refreshing, EP.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 10:16 AM

Giok,

A far more valid reason, I suspect...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work, Shhhhh.
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:46 PM

Ellenpolly, the pause that refreshes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:07 PM

Ommmmmmmmm......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:09 PM

(playing my Tibetan singing bowl...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:55 AM

(Blushing like mad)


;-D


..x..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:30 AM

Sonnet 07/06/04                        CMXVI

To see my muse removes clouds from my sky,
And fills my heart with longing. Is her glance
For my soft words, or does the reason why
She gives me smile reflect a longed-for chance?
To read words from my muse gives me a touch
Of what she thinks, and how she views this plane.
I want far more: I want to know how much
My verse might reach to soul., to hopes explain.
To hold her in arms would be to hold all
That dream might find in vision of desires.
How can I hoped for care less than love call
When she is source of dreams that hope inspires?
I worry about muse, because I fear
I cannot hold angel forever here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 10:57 AM

If you've got to glow, you've got to glow!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:50 PM

Glow little Ellen, glimmer, glimmer. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 06:26 AM

Sonnet 10/06/04                        CMXVII

A kitten finds my angel, and crawls in
To warmth and comfort in her arms. How much
I envy him! To know her caring touch
Would be to dreamed-of future hope to win.
What thoughts might kitten have, as tiny claws
Respond to gentle rubs? Does he realize
Who rescued him from rain and chill, and tries
To give him home? Does he touch heart with paws?
How might I join him, and hope to receive
That touch, and smile, and look of such concern?
What must I do, to hope of caring earn?
Should I all of my dreams of muse believe?
The more I know of her, the more I see
The reasons she gives such dear dreams to me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 08:37 AM

Nice little sonnet, Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 08:42 AM

Thanks! My muse liked it.

Best ones seem to be inspired by specific happenings.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 09:58 AM

Ellenpoly,

Can you shine some light upon this cloudy thread?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:39 AM

Awww, sorry I've been neglectful lately. I've got a new friend here at MC, and we're pming like mad. It's great fun to get a little one-to-one on occasion.

But you're not forgotten, my erstwhile cohorts in keeping this thread alive and well.

I'll shine on again later!

..xx..e

(PS-Hey, jennyO, if you liked that sonnet, STICK AROUND! Plenty more I imagine ;-D )

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:48 PM

Don't know why there's no sun up in the sky,

Stormy Weather.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:33 PM

actually, now we do know...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:40 PM

Listen, Do you want to know a secret?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:48 PM

Sonnet time, and the writing is easy...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 06:05 PM

From Allan Sherman... the ultimate comfort foods song ( yes, I know there is a thread, but I feel like putting it here!)

Hungarian Goulash No. 5
(Parody of "Hungarian Dance No. 5" by Johannes Brahms)

If you like Hungarian food,
They have a goulash which is very good.
Or if you wish a dish that's Chinese,
Somewhere down in Column B there's lobster Cantonese.

Enchiladas, that's what people eat in Mexico.
Shish kebab is skewered, in Armenia you know.
Then there's blubber, the favorite of the frigid Eskimo.
Such delicious dishes, no matter where you go.

Chicken cacciatore is Italian.
Kangaroo souffle must be Australian.
Mutton chops are definitely British.
Chicken soup undoubtedly is Yiddish.

Pumpernickel comes from Lithuania.
Hassenpfeffer comes from Pennsylvania.
Wiener schnitzel's Austrian or German.
Kindly pass the sauerbraten, Herman.

Borscht is what they're eating in the Soviet.
Wait, I think we've got some on the stove yet.
See the Mau Maus underneath the jungle sky.
Jolly Mau Maus, eating missionary pie.

Frenchmen eat a lot of bouillabaisse there.
Dutchmen eat a sauce called Hollandaise there.
Smorgasbord in Swedish is the winner.
In America it's TV dinner.

So there you have one food from each land.
Each one delicious, each one simply grand.
Mix them all up, in one big mish mash.
And what have you got? Hungarian goulash!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:01 PM

This has nothing to do with my posts in another thread.   I swear.


Tee hee.



Junk Food Junkie
Larry Groce
Written by Larry Groce


You know I love that organic cooking
I always ask for more
And they call me Mr. Natural
On down to the health food store
I only eat good sea salt
White sugar don't touch my lips
And my friends is always
Begging me to take them
On macrobiotic trips
Yes, they are

Oh, but at night I stake out my strongbox
That I keep under lock and key
And I take it off to my closet
Where nobody else can see
I open that door so slowly
Take a peek up north and south
Then I pull out a Hostess Twinkie
And I pop it in my mouth

Yeah, in the daytime I'm Mr. Natural
Just as healthy as I can be
But at night I'm a junk food junkie
Good lord have pity on me

Well, at lunchtime
You can always find me
At the Whole Earth Vitamin Bar
Just sucking on my plain white yogurt
From my hand thrown pottery jar
And sippin' a little hand pressed cider
With a carrot stick for dessert
And wiping my face
In a natural way
On the sleeve of my peasant shirt
Oh yeah

Ah, but when that clock strikes midnight
And I'm all by myself
I work that combination
On my secret hideaway shelf
And I pull out some Fritos corn chips
Dr. Pepper and an Ole Moon Pie
Then I sit back in glorious expectation
Of a genuine junk food high

Oh yeah, in the daytime I'm Mr. Natural
Just as healthy as I can be
But at night I'm a junk food junkie
Good lord have pity on me

My friends down at the commune
They think I'm pretty neat
Oh, I don't know nothing about arts and crafts
But I give 'em all something to eat
I'm a friend to old Euell Gibbons
And I only eat homegrown spice
I got a John Keats autographed Grecian urn
Filled up with my brown rice
Yes, I do

Oh, but folks lately I have been spotted
With a Big Mac on my breath
Stumbling into a Colonel Sanders
With a face as white as death
I'm afraid someday they'll find me
Just stretched out on my bed
With a handful of Pringles Potato Chips
And a Ding Dong by my head

In the daytime I'm Mr. Natural
Just as healthy as I can be
But at night I'm a junk food junkie
Good lord have pity on me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:58 PM

miss me? thought I'd given up eh!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 05:54 AM

today's sonnet...


Sonnet 14/06/04                     CMXVIII

How can I reach to muse, to fill her night
With pleasure, and with joy? What can I give
To show how much I want to hold her tight,
And how I wish for all my dreams to live?
How can I win from muse all I desire,
To hold her in my arms, and kiss her skin?
What should I say, to tell her of the fire
That thought of her lets my emotions win?
How can I show the dreams that fill my sleep
With visions of her smile? She is the one
I want to give my soul, and let her keep
This heart, that has feelings of love begun.
She is too far to touch, but I must try:
Without dream of her kiss, my hopes would die.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 10:51 AM

lovely BB.

still not last though.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 12:23 PM

Nor you, 42

Hey! I'm a poet and I don't know it!

Back when you least expect me.

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 05:39 PM

Maybe Shatner will be last. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 09:11 AM

do you think we could declare this thread a Shatner-free zone?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:23 AM

HAH!


(William Shatner chanelling through Ellenpoly and trying not to think nasty thoughts towards 42)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:49 AM

That should be easy, we all know Shatner can't walk and chew gum at the same time. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM

I heard that!

(William Shatner, channelling through Ellenpoly who is trying to walk while he's chewing gum.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:30 PM

Sorry,

I should have said "Can't act and chew gum . . ."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:31 PM

Of course, I was pretty useless at work yesterday thinking about Ellepoly's tits in the shower. . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:14 AM

Sonnet 09/07/04                      CMXXI

To rest my head on muse's lap, and see
Moonlight reflected from her eyes: I find
This dream far more than hope. But, can it be
That I will ever dreams free from just mind?
I long to give reason for smile, to win
The sight of sparkle in her caring eyes.
What might such hoped for dream hope to begin,
When all my study has not made me wise?
My muse is center of my dreams: The key
To vault of visions. Can I hope to hold
The one who holds my heart, or does my plea
Ask for more than dreams earn, to dream enfold?
I find true beauty in thought of my muse:
She is the one that my heart's desires choose

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 07:24 AM

Blackcatter! I expected better of you!


..xx..e









(No she didn't...William Shatner chanelling through Ellenpoly while she's drying off.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 09:07 AM

gee, should I post another sonnet everytime Sh*tner is mentioned? Would that help, or hurt?


Maybe I should go back to the beginning, and post the ones even I don't look at....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:00 AM

Ellenpoly says she likes your sonnets so I told her I'd shut up about them.




But I write better ones


(William Shatner still chanelling through Ellenpoly but only with the promise that I keep a civil tongue. You're lucky BB.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 04:30 AM

What were they doing in the shower, and where was the rest of EP?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 07:04 AM

Sonnet 18/07/04                      CMXXII

I see, within my muse's eyes, the stars
To guide my dreams to heaven, and beyond,
To touch her smile. Yet, is distance what bars
My reaching out? Am I of dream too fond?
All I need is to know muse does not mind
My focus upon her, without the right
To fold her in arms, and heart try to bind:
I do not think to muse's desires fight.
I seek, in inspiration, something more
Than just reflection: I hope I will find
A truer vision, that heart might ignore
Life's loneliness, and to sorrows be blind.
No matter what might happen, know I care
For one who holds my heart, and dreams would share.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 06:42 PM

oops- the thread fell off! So let me bring t to the top, with another sonnet...


Sonnet 22/07/04                     CMXXIII

I dream, but know dream is not truly real,
That I find my heart's goal. I may desire
This beautiful muse to more than inspire,
But she is more than vision: I'll not steal
What I hope she might give. How can I feel
Other than thus? She is the one I see
When all is dark: Can I not dream to be
Within touch of her lips, to passions seal?
But I know I cannot hold her apart
From world, and reason. Dream does not give cause
To be more of a fool: I dare not seek
To offer more than dreams, and soul, and heart.
She is my muse, but all of my dreams pause,
And wait, with hope I might hear her heart speak.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:26 PM

have to go away for a holiday. don't think I won't be back!

i hope i can trust you to not let the thread fall off the page until I return!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:50 AM

Shouldn't that be: don't think, I won't be back!

That'd make it one more out of the runnin'.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 09:01 AM

Ah yes Blackcatter, but there are always new ones to take up the challenge!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:19 AM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...and some of us just take long naps until something interesting happens..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....Hi JennyO!..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:33 AM

Hi Ellenpoly. I think it's easier to talk here than in the chatroom at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:50 AM

You're right, Jenny. Maybe we should have this as an alternate chatroom. That could both keep this thread going, and make it interesting again!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:05 PM

Well it would serve a double purpose wouldn't it. Trouble is, I'm about to go to bed now. But I'll be back.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:06 PM

Why would we want this thread to be interesting? DOesn't that defeat the purpose?


Sonnet 01/08/04                                        CMXXIV

I hear my muse, though I have not heard voice
Nor gazed into those eyes: My dreams have held
To words, and thought of smile. It is not choice,
But concern keeping me away. I've spelled
Out all my longings: She need only ask,
To have more than my words. But she can be
Whatever she might want, though I'll not mask
Desire to hold her close, and her smile see.
I see her, in mind's eye, though I just dream
She holds hands out, in greeting. I would seize
All she might offer, but I cannot give
What would not bring a smile. My words might seem
Confused, but verse and dream on muse agrees:
She is the one that makes my passions live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:10 PM

BB honey, it's not that I've fallen off from loving each and every one of your sonnets, but I think an alternate chatroom is a good idea. Don't worry, we can always work around your verses.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:14 PM

be careful... I might send you each and every one.....

Got my violet crumbles from Joy.... I wonder if I can save any for the getaway?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 06:16 AM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...Refresh...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 11:18 PM

NEXT!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 07:09 AM

What is love?
A shapeless thing
The joys of which, the poets sing.
They sing of love, and it's perfection.
I think it's just a mental erection.

Giok

Sonnets schmonnets!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:27 AM

What is love?
the poets said
I think its wanking
in your head
but if you wank
within your mind
you'll find your brain cells

turning blind

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:28 AM

a sonnet is a funny thing
it makes me laugh it makes me sing

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:29 AM

i may never be last in this old thread

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:30 AM

..but i can be no. 2000 INSTEAD!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:32 AM

..one day!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:48 AM

Naughty Freda, posting several times in succession in order to attain the dubious distinction of making the 1200th or whatever post, is cheating. This pyrrhic victory is not in the spirit of Oz, and I'm disappointed in you. I shall have to get NR to take you in hand.
Giok.
[Not long now till the big trip!]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:05 AM

that nurse ratched is a bitch - I'll do anything to avoid meeting her -

i humbly grovel and deeply apologise

please, please, don't set her on me

freda

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:08 AM

I'd love to meet her myself, sounds twisted enough to be one of my bosom buddies!

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:10 AM

well.. naughty! to you too!

ms freda p. underhill

(p for prudish)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:14 AM

I thought it stood for pumpkin, after all it is nearly midnight in Sidders, and only 10C too according to Web Wombat, keep warm Cinders.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:25 AM

thanks Giok, I'll bring my warm coat!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:48 AM

Sidders is Sydney according to my friend Michael in Melbourne, which is where I thought you were, are you? Do you know where you are? What are you doing up at this time of night anyway? The weather here is quite warm for us, definitely warmer than Oz at this time of year, although rain is forecast for next week. I don't know about a warm coat, but an umbrella might be useful.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:55 AM

..ah, I thought you must have been in Sidmouth!

I think I'm in Sydney, possibly - ive just been chatting with jennyo in the chat room and she had a similar conversation with me about wondering whether we were here or not. we ended up deciding that we thought we WERE here. yes, its 10 degr here - ive got the heater on behind my chair as i type.

i'm back from listening to bluegrass, earlier in the evening!

i shouldnt really be here b/c i'm going to phone jacqui c, just to check and see if she really exists or not, too!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:16 AM

Freda, now I see why you were telling me it was 10 degrees in Sidmouth! Thought it was a little cool for summer. So Giok, as far as I know, she is still in Sydney, but not for much longer, and I'm in Sydney too, and not going anywhere, and I have my heater on too.

So now everything's in its place and we can all relax, and I will take my rightful place at the end of this thread. Feel free to not post, everybody.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:39 AM

i'm freely not posting, jenny!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:46 AM

i can see that

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:15 AM

i freely admit that i'm not posting!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:23 AM

and I freely acknowledge your right to freely not post, f-reely.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:30 AM

reaally?

(signed)
freeda dowhaddiwant

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:32 AM

yes really

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:38 AM

Tag, you're it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:39 AM

MARCO!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:44 AM

marco. hmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 12:30 PM

Polo, Pierre White, distinction??
Giok...Who seems to be in Scotland.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 12:56 PM

WAUGH!!!

Howard the Duck used to say that when startled or horrified by something...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 01:08 PM

Evlyn?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:04 PM

muriel twithington?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:49 PM

Giok:

Why do you think you're in Scotland?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:32 PM

Because he thinks, therefore he is.

I'm back. Did anyone miss me? No? OK, I'll try not to be crushed.

ranger1, in Maine (AKA Vacationland), wondering why we call it tourist season if we're not allowed to shoot them.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 10:48 AM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...POLO!...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:29 AM

I'm in Scotland because it's my own my native land, and although it has some drawbacks like a 9 month rainy season, it's still home, ergo; it's where my heart is.
But Blackcatter it is as you infer, partly for the protection of the masses that I am so far north! ;~)
Giok
[What's wrong with EP? Ever since she had that shower she's been tetchy!]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:39 AM

..LoL!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 12:32 PM

You're right, Giok. Something is not right with me. See the UNIVERSAL Thread that Dewy started. I'm convinced that William Shatner has done something to my brain.

Please help me!


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (It's the only way I can shake Shatner)ZZZZZZZZ

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 01:45 PM

Never mind EP agape mou, we all have our Tribbles.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,no-one
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 10:04 PM

i am writing to let you know that no-one is sometimes better than someone.

i am directly channeling nothing, because there's no-one home.

regards

not much

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:12 PM

ZZZZZZZ...this thread hasn't been refreshed for three days!ZZZZZZZZ
ZZZZZZ...is EVERYONE asleep?....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:40 PM

Jus' dreamin' of you . . .


























So when's the drool-soaked pillow auction?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:05 PM

Right after Shatner's toup...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...drool..zzzzzzz

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:06 PM

Drool??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:08 PM

Never mind Giok, you wouldn't be interested, I promise.

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:39 PM

Ellenpoly,

I thought that letting "no-one" have the last word here was too good to pass up...

8-{E

more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:43 PM

BB-Oh yes please! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:54 PM

hmmm... CMXXV is not yet finished...


ok, first of the 172+ to my present muse, an acrostic...


Sonnet 02/04/01                DXXXVII

For all that I might ask to know your mind,
Only the glow of smile, and light of eyes,
Reaches to dreams: Heart is to reason blind.

Reading your words, I find that I desire
Enough of you to know more than I do:
Before I fall, must I find you inspire?
Echoes of Past remain: Are dreams but cries,
Cold imaginings too old to be thought new?
Can I ask that you kindle in mind fire
After heart has been burned? Would hope be true?

Let all my hopes and dreams of desires wait:
You must decide how much of heart to show.
Not all my words can alter future Fate:
No chance for verse, unless some muse I know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 02:20 PM

Wake up, sweet Ellen, and share with us all
The dreams you find, that cause your drool to fall.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 02:52 PM

ZZZZZZZ..Huh? Whaaa?...ZZZZZZZ..BB, just keep on posting those sonnets, luv..ZZZZZZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 02:57 PM

Hgie tha thnei ghie a ithe thi. Htheb bn htihighie li 99. jOhn from Hull! Hnbeghic it poihge. Lesh ghie gh. He hi 3tnih egui.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 03:16 PM

Albatross!

Get your Albatross!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 09:37 AM

Na sliebitze nim kracve jOhn from Hull dahbniche strebsuche!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 09:40 AM

FINALLY! Something worth reading on this thread!

Bless you Little Hawk, and the dimension you flew in from.

..xx.e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 12:37 PM

Eastern Europe is now a dimension?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 01:35 PM

OK blackcatter, you show-off. Care to translate?

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 01:42 PM

Probably thinks that the LH post is in Polish, or some east European language EP.
Is he right or is he wrong?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 01:50 PM

I may be wrong, but it looks Polish or something.

As for translating it, sorry, I only know English and Icelandic.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:53 AM

Èíòåðåñíî, áóäåò ëè ïèñüìî íà äðóãîì ÿçûêå äåëàòü ýòó íèòü áîëüøå èíòåðåñíîé


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:52 AM

still trying to be last.

there was a time I tried to be first but now old age just does not let that sort of thing happen anymore.

Coming first now thats different.

life sucks.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:56 AM

i'm so thrilled to know that the universe continues to unfold as it should...at least on the Cat

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:44 AM

Cnsepernx, asdes lc ocro'mx ny'! dpsgxm ÿiy!ke dely'!so' y'ss ncso' axlo'be cnsepernxj

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:54 AM

Ellenpoly,

I think you've been spending too much time in the shower, the mist has begun growing mold on the top of your letters.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 01:37 PM

Blackcatter, Ýòî íå, ÷òî ìîé ìîçã èìååò ïî÷âó, ýòî - ÷òî ÿ ïåðåâîæó jOhn of Hull îò îðèãèíàëà.


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 02:33 PM

It's not that easy being green;
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves.
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold...
or something much more colorful like that.

It's not easy being green.
It seems you blend in with so many other ord'nary things.
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're
not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water
or stars in the sky.

But green's the color of Spring.
And green can be cool and friendly-like.
And green can be big like an ocean, or important like a mountain,
or tall like a tree.

When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why?
Wonder, I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful!
And I think it's what I want to be.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:34 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 10:15 AM

The previous post has been approved by the Department of Redundency Department.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 01:08 PM

Óõã÷áñçôÞñéá, Blackcatter, âÝâáéïò åóåßò êáé Millard Fillmore èá åßíáé ðïëý åõôõ÷Þò áðü êïéíïý.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 11:31 AM

Is this thread to be killed by Millard Fillmore?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 11:39 AM

no

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 12:53 PM

Vote Hillary into top spot!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 04:41 PM

Efxaristo Elenpoly

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 Aug 04 - 10:45 PM

even millard fillmore doesn't have that much pull!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:05 AM

time for another sonnet... 2nd of 173 to present muse...

Sonnet 01/05/01                                DXLIV

I look at picture of your eyes, and lose
A part of heart: I see your smile, and dream
That I might cause another. Would you choose
To let my lines amuse? My heart might deem
You as a source of light. Should I not hope
To offer reflection of what I see?
You are more than I know, from words: The scope
Of your dreams remains out of sight of me.
What might bring a small smile to you, or cause
A gleam in eye? How might I know your mind,
To offer joy? I ask myself, and pause:
I know not what to ask, to your heart find.
Why do you laugh, when I would have verse show
What vision I might find, within your glow?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:04 AM

20/20

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:11 AM

I'm worried about Blackcatter. Wish he would drop someone a line.


Then again, if it's a tussle between him and the forces of nature...I'd bet on the Blackcatter EVERY time!


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:00 PM

Have I lost the plot here? or are other catters as bad at typing as me?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 12:09 PM

jOhn from Hull is worse than you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 03:29 AM

Blackcatteeeerrrrrrr Wheerrrreeee Aaaarrreeeee Yyyyooouuuuu?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 07:43 AM

3rd of 173...

Sonnet 03/05/01                        DXLV

Are you a rose, turning your face to sun,
With soft, sweet beauty, and a layered heart?
Have I some chance to know dreams with verse won,
That I might see the light that brings me art?

I wish that you dream of your heart's desire,
But hope you find some room within your thought
For one who finds your eyes to verse inspire:
I fear your image has my vision caught.

How might I show concern? I have not wit
Enough, to give what miles forbid. I send
What words I might, and hope that you see fit
To give reply. Shall I let desires end?

Would that I might look into eyes, and see
If in your dreams might be a thought of me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:28 AM

Insert comma here. I'm running out of breath.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:32 AM

,

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 10:33 AM

one should always run INTO breath.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Aug 04 - 06:43 PM

I REFUSE to be the last to post here... back to the top!


4th of 173...


Sonnet 03/05/01                                DXLVI

I ask for dream, and vision, yet I seek
To understand your soul: Would you now share
An image of your heart? Do my words speak
A language that you feel? Dare my heart care?
I ask for words, to knowledge gain, yet know
Emotion feeds my dreams, and heart. I ask
Beyond all reason: I would have you show
The part of self one from the world must mask.
I ask for hope, and caring, yet can give
Only my words, and heart. Are questions just,
Or do I pass all bounds? To let dreams live
Requires I offer soul, and hope for trust.
I ask, yet cannot know: Would you desire
More than these words, or that I dreams retire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 12:05 AM

thanks LH...you're a life savour.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 04:27 AM

A Sonnet

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14

See anybody can do them!

Giok ;~)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 07:07 AM

Blaaaccckkkcaaaattteerrrrr!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 08:33 AM

He's back he's back! Blackcatter's back!

He hasn't posted here yet, but he will. Oh yes, he will.

My faith has been restored!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 04:45 PM

John 'Giok' MacKenzie :

Perhaps you might take the time to find out what a sonnet is. Your post does not qualify. Or shall I state that I am the king of Great Britain, beacause I wish to say that? Hardly makes it true.

If you don't like my sonnets, feel free not to read them.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 04:48 PM

I didn't know you were king of Britain, BB!

That's great news!

Certainly deserves a Royal Sonnet, eh?

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 06:03 PM

Touchy BB; touchy. Merely a little levity, I do know what a sonnet is thanks.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 07:42 PM

I asked for a beer and I got a cold water
You should of been more thoughtfull and had a care
My stomach turned over my temper got hotter
In language like "Flip!" I gave my anger full air
I used simple words, because I'm no loser
My thirst bites my gut, as I sit here and ask
Would you stomp on the dreams of an unemploid boozer
Who must hide from the world behind a sad mans' mask?
I asked for a beer! Maybe you didn't hear me?
Only my words, and my petrified heart
Did I go out of bounds? Why won't you come near me?
Must I offer my soul, and get sneered at like a fart?
I asked for a beer, so don't give me your voodoo
I'd be some kind of jerk if I acted like YOU DO!!!

(there's yer flippin' sonnet, BugBeard! Showoff.)

BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Aug 04 - 09:44 PM

Why should I post here?

The only important post is the last one.

I led the service at church today - the topic was schizophrenia. Maybe I'll be like BB and post paragraphs of the sermon, one at a time, until I've run out. I may even post them in sequence.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 06:18 AM

BDiBR,

Needs a lot of work on scansion - (Iambic pentameter)... and the rhymes need work... But I like the "petrified heart".



Blackcatter:

Good idea on the sermon... see my post of 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 06:20 AM

5th of 174...

Sonnet 06/05/01                              DXLVII

Though I may dream of you, I cannot say
You send me visions. Image fills my thought,
But I do not know how you feel: I stay
A step farther away than I have sought.
Though I may seek for muse, I cannot know,
Without reply, what I in you have found:
Is it too much to ask, to have you show
Some part of what you feel, to feelings bound?
Though I may beg for words, I cannot ask
What I might wish. How can I see a smile
Over this distance? Would written words mask
The feelings sought, or let heart rest a while?
All I might do will not gain me my goal:
How can I reach your heart, or touch your soul?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 05:37 AM

6th 0f 174...
                Sonnet 10/05/01                                DXLIX

                I have not heard your voice, to have heart bound
                By dulcet tones. What might I do, to earn
                A gift of song, or laughter? How might sound
                Help me to know your heart? What might I learn?
                I have not run my fingers through your hair,
                To touch the curve of neck, or know if skin
                Is soft as dream. How might I evening share,
                At such a distance? What dreams would I win?
                I have not kissed your lips, to taste desire,
                But hope to find some passion in your lines.
                Yet, words do not offer the same sweet fire
                As silent look, or touch that heart entwines.
                How can I find ways to your soul entreat,
                When miles can half of my senses defeat?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:36 AM

i didn't know that reading previous posts was the expected practice on the Cat. I'll have to reorganize my day in order to have time to critique the grammar and sytax errors in BDIBR's sonnet. Let alone its scansion!

(insert sonnet to a fallen leaf here...                )

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:12 AM

42:

Where did the sonnet go???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 10:40 AM

Well, since out of the goodness of my heart I had earlier decided not to post more than one of my sonnets here each day, I am now reduced to just muttering under my breath...

Since there are those posting here who seem to have no knowledge of what a sonnet IS, I feel it is my royal duty, as king of Great Britain, (per Giok) to enlighten them.

A sonnet, from the Italian for "little song", is a short lyrical poem, always rhymed. It must have a regular scansion, and a structured rhyme scheme. Originally, they were from 10 to 18 lines long, but since the mid 15th century the "standard" length has been 14 lines. The pure Italian form had an octet rhymed ABBAABBA, and a sestet rhymed (variously) CDECDE, CDCDCD, or CDEEDC. The pure English form had three stanzas rhymed either ABAB or ABBA, and a concluding couplet. Although a few sonnets have been written in iambic hexameter, most are done in iambic pentameter. Either is acceptable, but once started, the sonnet should stay in a fixed form. There have been mixed forms, with English rhyme schemes and Italian octet/sestet structure. Major periods of sonnet writing have occured in English from approx. 1450 to 1600, 1750 to 1850, and 1920 through the present.

I hope that this will help those out there trying to write sonnets.

The major woman poets of the 18th and early 19th century wrote sonnets to show that they were serious poets, and capable of the same levels of skill as DWM. I can recommend the book "A Century of Sonnets (1750 - 1850)" for a number of great examples of the first sonnet rennaissance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:54 PM

so, does that mean a sonnet can't be written to a fallen leaf?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 11:37 PM

Hey BB - thanks for the explanation. Where were you in Freshman Comp?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 11:41 PM

By the way,

I quoted Jack Hirschman's poem "Home" during my schizophrenia service. I wish I could have found it online. I'd post it, but it's pretty long and I'm tired of typing at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 06:22 AM

42:

Of course a sonnet can be written to a fallen leaf- a sonnet can be written about anything that the poet feels strongly about.

Blackcatter:

I never took Freshman comp- I did tutor it. My post was done off the top of my head- sorry if there were any structural errors- chalk it up to the Divine right of kings...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 06:38 AM

Nice to see BBs sonnet thread back again.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 07:59 AM

Glad you like it. Feel free to make a positive contribution to the thread.

7th of 174...

Sonnet 16/05/01                                DL

I'm glad my words can bring to you some joy
And find a place within your heart. Yet I
Wish to lift you, not to quiet destroy,
But to know heart's desire, and look in eye.
I do not ask who is to blame, but seek
To see what I might of your soul. I care
Enough to want to hold, but cannot speak
Of what we might in future meeting share.
I cannot alter others' actions, yet
I wish faint friends did not control your heart.
I understand that pain: But can you let
My words have equal weight, that hope might start?
I ask, not to own soul, but just to know
Your heart, that I might some of these dreams show.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:27 AM

As the object of the thread is merely to be the last to post, the degree of positivity is irrelevant!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:31 AM

True...

but as I stated in my post of 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM .....

In any case, I hope that Ellenpoly can jump in here for the 1300th post...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:37 AM

Anything to oblige, BB

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:37 AM

So, el ted...


THWACK!

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:38 AM

And just in case anyone has missed me....

Now, do please carry on, BB

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 08:51 AM

This conversation between Elvis Presley, and Brigitte Bardot is uncanny, as it is rumoured that one of them is dead.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 09:07 AM

Ellenpoly: ANYTHING?

And I always carry on....



Best bumpersticker I have seen-

"Born again... and again, and again..." from a Buddhist temple in NY state.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 09:21 AM

Giok:

I died once, but I got better. Had to qualify as a Dead White Male, or I could never get anywhere...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 11:03 AM

BB, anything to oblige that can be done clothed from across a large ocean, and doesn't involve necessary body parts being accessed, deleted, or in any way annoyed.

But I'm still open to negotiation about that smoked salmon mafia connection.....

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 03:48 PM

Want the 175 sonnets to my muse? Though that might annoy soem part...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 05:34 PM

depends on the name of your muse. Some names annoy the hell out of me. Shaq, Lenny, Guido, George W. Bush, Theodolpholus. I could go on.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 07:40 PM

Nope. My muse is named Rebecca...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 10:02 PM

of Sunnybrook Farm?
Howe of Cheers?
of the Hitchcock movie?
that wife of John Stamos?
My third grade teacher (the second time)?

Do tell! I doubt I've ever met someone how has their own muse. Is she pretty? Can she hold her own drinking beer?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 05:52 AM

8th of 175...

Sonnet 19/05/01                        DLIV

I see in you a surplus of concern,
That all becomes your worry, and you bear
Too much of heartache. Does not caring earn
A place within my heart? Can I not care?
I see in you a soul that dreams, yet gives
Far more to others than perhaps you should.
Can you not hold some part, that your dream lives
In more than mind? Must future remain 'could'?
I see in you a reason to have faith,
That hope exists within this world, to hold   
Out dreams of finding one to be the lathe
To anchor kindness, and to heart's hope mold.
I see within, but wish to look in eyes,
That I might know how human angel flies.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 06:10 AM

Blackcatter:

No, to the names you asked about. I had posted her website here, earlier.

"Do tell! I doubt I've ever met someone how has their own muse. Is she pretty? Can she hold her own drinking beer?"

Many of us have muses- the question is whether we recognize their contribution to our creative process. Yes, I think that she is pretty, but have no idea if she can hold her own drinking beer- as I have not had any alcohol since Nov 1991, that has never come up in conversation.

Any other questions?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 06:29 AM

BTW, check out "Lives of the Muses" by Prose. An interesting look at muses and their effect on creative people.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 07:28 AM

I can't resist grabbing this post. A lucky number.


Working on having a workshop at the Getaway on "Care and feeding of Muses", (from the thread of that name) about how to try to find inspiration- ginger and Reese's PB cups to be provided for the first 100 people or so.... All comments welcome, either there, or here. ( far or near?)...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 06:37 AM

9th of 175...

Sonnet 19/05/01                        DLV

And how long have I waited, for my muse
To offer me the words to share my heart?
What words might I send, that she not refuse
To send me further whispers that dreams start?
How shall I tell her that the thought of smile
Gives me reason to write? I need to know
My words will bring some thought. I do not file
Writings away, to gather dust, but show
My feelings to the world. I can but pray
That someone shares my dreams. To know you read
Without disdain gives me the hope to say
My inner hopes: I feel you feel my need.
I cannot ask you to be all I dream:
Yet as you are, you more than magic seem.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 11:09 AM

Well,

Guess what folks. Unless no one posts after me, I will not be the last poster on this thread. That's because I'm calling it quits. I'm not posting "below the bar" anymore. It has been made clear to me that I'm an awful person (both in regular posts and in PMs). Since I'm not, obviously something's wrong.

The BS section appears to bring out the worst in me, so screw it. I'll visit occasionally to look at the music threads and will post there when I have something to contribute, and since that only happens a couple times a week, I'll probably fade away.

I've only posted this in this thread, because it's more likely that people involved in this thread may be the one's who will notice my absence and wonder. I don't want to make this a cause celeb, but I doubt it will be.

I've been a member of Mudcat for just under 5 years. Oddly eoungh, it's mostly new people who have driven me off.

Frankly I don't care.

Goodby all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 02:44 PM

ANOTHER ONE DOWN!

I'm going to win!

Nobody else post!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:32 PM

fat chance. have to say goodbye to blackcatter...even though there will be no return.

Does "below the line" bear any resemblance to below the salt?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 06:28 AM

Blackcatter,

Sorry to hear about your decision. You will be missed. ( But I will try to help the miss get over it...)




10th of 175...

Sonnet 22/05/01                        DLVII

How might I be your friend, to offer smile
And show I care, and understand? What lines
Will tell of true concern? What is the style,
To prove I mean my words? Are my dreams signs
That I seek more? I'll not desire deny,
But seek for friendship. Your words touch my heart,
And I would shelter you from harm, or try:
Yet words without action are but a start.
I cannot think that I will sunrise share,
Save at this distance: The arm that I'd hold
Around you does not reach. Yet I will care
About you; Without touch, heart has hopes told.
If you know how I might my caring show,
I beg of you to tell me: Let me know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:51 AM

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. Only 165 to go.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 08:57 AM

If one must ask "How do I love thee?", one is obviously in need of further education...

(see my earlier post of 18 May 04 - 12:54 PM )


And you forget that I am still writing them- didn't you notice the number change?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 11:54 AM

Now, "WHY do I love thee?".... would be of interest.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:03 AM

11th of 175...

Sonnet 29/05/01                        DLXI

Do you hear caring in my words of rhyme?
Do I reach out to hold your feelings? Tell
Me if I touch your heart, or waste my time.
Is heart to dream of Heaven, or of Hell?
Can you feel all my hopes, or see the dreams
That dwell inside of me? How can I hold
To heart's desire, at such a distance? Schemes
To steal your heart are better left untold.

I send my words, and you send back to me
Both dreams and future verse: Can I not care
For one who gives so much of self? I see
How others don't see you, and your hopes wear.
I cannot help but love you: Not in lust,
But for smile, words, and caring: This I trust.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:23 AM

this thread will go on and on, and on.........until the sudden end of the world. and then, the person who is last may not even have time to find out the glorious truth .. that they were last!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:33 AM

Shall we look closely at "The Resturant at the End of the Universe, to find someone entering a post to this thread at one of the tables?


And is not the value in the journey, not the destination?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 08:45 AM

Doesn't 11th/175 indicate a finite number?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 09:05 AM

yes, it is finite... but the 175 can increase in integer steps. I only post one per day: I have written as many as 4 in a day, but not often. I will likely reach the end of the ones to this muse- then I can start on ones to past muses...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 09:27 AM

that will be very amusing (never one to miss the obvious)(or the last post)

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:10 PM

Okay, that's it. I started this silly thread, and It's gone far enough! This is the last post. No one is allowed to post any more after this one. If you do, I will email you photos of William Shatner in very, very tiny thong-style bathing trunks. I will continue sending you such jpegs until you learn the error of your ways.

So this is the last post on this thread.

Believe it.

It's over.

Nothing to see here.

Move on, go home, be off with you!

The End.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:22 PM

Be carefull with the threats, LH. I have a LOT more sonnets- would you rather I PM them to you all at once?

Or do you want jpegs of me in a thong?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:26 PM

Ha! Now you've done it. Boy, are you going to be sorry! Oooo! I hate to think what tortures of the damned you are going to suffer.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:29 PM

Let me quote you:

"Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter."

I happen to still have some thoughts left ungiven.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 02:44 PM

Yeah, I bet you do... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 02:47 PM

so, sonnets or thong? I will be kind enough to give you a choice of tortures...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 02:49 PM

Send the jpegs! Chongo says he needs a new dartboard target.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 02:54 PM

Be afraid.... be very afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Teresa
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 03:17 PM

I like both thongs and thonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 03:21 PM

I am sure that there are people here on Mudcat who would MUCH rather read my sonnets than see me in a thong...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 09:46 AM

I, for one, enjoy the thought of both.

Chongo in a thong....there's a certain rhythm to that which cannot be ignored.

anything to thwart LH!

send me those photos!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 01:28 PM

12th of 177...

Sonnet 29/05/01                        DLXII

Does Nature send a storm, to match the mood
Within your mind? Does thunder roar, to show
The anger that you feel at fools? What rude
Remarks have lightning brought to eyes, that glow
With outrage? How dare they ask of those things
They have no right to know? Do not allow
Such fools such power, even to feel stings:
They are not worth your time, not then , nor now.

You remain rose, though perhaps thorns might grow
To drive away some pests. An honest hate
Is not without it's value: You may show
That some things are not proper to relate.
Sometimes you need to say you will not say,
And just refuse to games with some fools play.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 01:31 PM

42:

I think I will leave your illusions untouched...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 10:25 PM

Which illusions would those be?

j
ps. misplaced apostophe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 01:03 AM

I would rather be athwart Winona Ryder, 42.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 08:40 AM

just look under the bed LH.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:12 AM

13th of 177...

Sonnet 29/05/01                        DLXIII

I see a bit of heaven in your eyes,
And know that I have found for certain one
Full-fledged angel. Not even Earthly guise
Can hide your truth from me, though perhaps none
Other has seen your soul. You hold the key
To heart's desire, yet wield a sword of fire
Against unreason. Are my dreams to be
Unlocked by you? Or, should I hopes retire?

I seek for dreams, and hopes, and heart's desire,
Yet do not know if I dare hold you here,
On mortal plane. You might my verse inspire,
But can I ever hope to hold you near?
Could I bring dreams to life, would I heart reach,
To hold you near, and mortal pleasures teach?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:36 AM

42:

"I, for one, enjoy the thought of both.
....
send me those photos"

I would rather you continue to enjoy the sonnets...


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:22 AM

just haven't quite found the right combination.

       j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:27 AM

LH:

To quote from Robert Anson Heinlein,

"ALL women are beautiful: some are just more beautiful than others."


42:

Of sonnets and thongs?

Thongs and illusions?

sonnets and illusions?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:04 PM

If all women are beautiful it follows that all people are beautiful. This is an idea that I have heard expressed by the enlightened. It makes sense on a soul level, but perhaps not on a bodily or a personality level...depending on your viewpoint.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:14 PM

If the soul is beautiful, does a thinking person need more?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:30 AM

All a thinking person needs to do is contact his or her Soul. This may not be as easy as it sounds. Depends on how your mind normally functions. Most people's minds are rather scattered, and focused more on outward distractions. Experiencing a connection with Soul is an inward process.

That's why it says in the Bible:

"Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven which is within"

and

"Be still and know God"

That means: first still the body, then still the restless, chattering mind...while remaining awake and alert. Most people have great difficulty doing that. Try it and see... Try it frequently. It's called: meditation or contemplation. Most people seem to feel they haven't got enough "time" for it! :-) That's my usual excuse too...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 05:33 AM

14th of 177...

Sonnet 16/7/01                               DLXVII

I offer no solution to the pain
That absence brings- I just offer support
When weight of sorrow topples soul, to stain
Dreams with depression. Heart makes the effort,
But, arms cannot reach: I remain here,
And share only my words. I can but seek
To share my feelings, but cannot touch tear.
Yet, at this time should I let my heart speak?
You may not feel my hugs, but my arms hold
Concern and caring. The words I now send
Must serve to solace share. I may be old,
But I have not forgotten loss, nor end.
How can I hold you in my arms, and dry
Your tears? How can heart not hold you, or try?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 05:43 AM

And how different is meditation from my seeking the quiet place inside of myself where I can hear my muse?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:43 PM

Not very different at all, I would think. This is becoming quite a lovely thread, I have noticed. I have absolutely no expectations of being the last one in it, either.

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:54 PM

It's probably very similar to that, Bruce. It is the Soul from which creativity springs.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Teresa
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:08 PM

Oh I did love that last sonnet, Bruce. :)

T

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:28 PM

Teresa:

Thank you.


LH:

Thus each of finds our own path. And mine is of no greater, nor lesser value than yours.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 04:08 PM

Agreed, BB.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 02:13 PM

15th of 177...

Sonnet 31/8/01                        DLXXV

Can I form verse out of unspoken thought,
Without knowledge or hope? Can I recall
That which has not been? I have sonnets sought,
But found no vision. What would you dearth call,
That I have not had dreams? Am I to blame
For absence of muse? I try to find lines,
But I see only shadows: Shall I claim
More than I dream? What shall I use for signs?
Yet, I still think about you, and I care,
Though have few words to send, to show concern.
Shall I repeat my words, and hope to say
Some deeper meaning? Can my few hopes bear
Without vision? Can I to desire turn,
Without even a smile to light the way?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Sep 04 - 10:43 AM

16th of 177...

Sonnet 06/11/01                        DCXXIII

My dear Rebecca Lynn, I cannot say
What might my verse inspire. I do not know
How I might find the vision I would show.
I look for words that feed my dreams, that play
Within my heart: I seek lines that display
Part of desires. Can I hope to heart hold,
Or even to some aspect of dreams mold?
Without my dreams, my words are less than clay.

I feed my sonnets with desire; I sow
The seeds of verse within my dreams. For light,
I look to hope: For rain, I seize my tears
Of sorrow, or of joy. Yet, will lines grow?
I harvest from dreams images, at night,
To place on page, and hold throughout the years.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 07:17 AM

17th of 177...

Sonnet 08/11/01                        DCXXIV

A quiet evening, with an autumn chill,
Frost upon leaves, and whispers in the pines.
Bright stars, that cloudless sky with beauty fill
And thought of life, that echo in these lines.
A winter rose, with frost upon the leaves,
But warmth in center, reaching to low sun
In western sky. Heart for summer now grieves
To see all nature slow. Yet, tears are done.
Winter approaches, and brings calm and thought,
Meditation on the cycle, and chance
To rest before start of springtime's riot.
Heart warms, at once and future lover's glance.
Time turns, and all is born, and then all dies,
Then born again, as hope climbs in spring skies.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 07:35 AM

hmm...


Getting quiet around here...


Am I the last one?











Not likely.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 10 Sep 04 - 10:22 PM

not likely at all dear Bruce. Sonnets are lovely as they always are coming from you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 07:39 AM

8-{)E

18th of 177...

Sonnet 10/01/02 For Rebecca, on her Birthday DCXXXIX

Sweet rose, I wonder how you are. I ask,
But hear few words of what you do. I claim
Small wisdom, but I feel silence might mask
Some other ill. I cannot feelings name:
I worry that you are not well, but know
No way to send concern. No gift have I,
Save to think of you: Heart does not have bow
To place on friendship, though my words may try.
Another year, and I have yet to see
More than a picture of your eyes, but find
Your happiness is my concern, to be
A hope for coming year. Yet Muse is blind:
I cannot promise thoughts will form to verse.
I cannot control dreams: That is my curse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 10:28 AM

bb

didn't mean to hang you out to fret about the last post! back to work this week and having 75 people for music and barbeque today as a 911 antidote.

keep 'em coming!

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 10:37 AM

75 people for barbeque? A LARGE grill would be required...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 03:40 PM

... but I guess one could cook them one at a time...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 04:30 PM

So Beardedbruce, so many posts to this thread...would you please allow me to be last on it???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 11:44 AM

HA! I laugh in your general direction!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:04 PM

Only Joking of course. How could anyone be last on a never ending thread anyway?
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:44 PM

ok, I can leave another sonnet, then...



19th of 177...


Sonnet 01/06/02                                   DCXCVII

Wild rose, sweet angel, how can I repay
The thoughts that your words bring? You are a prize
I cannot win from distance, nor realize
True worth to heart's desire, though heart dreams say.
How might I heal your heart, and show the world
How sweet you are, and how my dreams would share
All that I might with you, and how I care
About your smile? Heart has not all hopes furled.
I wish that I might offer heart's desire,
To give you passion in my verse, but fear
I cannot hold to dreams that hold you near,
Though your smile in my dreams still hopes inspire.
I treasure you far more than wise, yet hold
Faint hope that you desire a beau so old.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 05:35 AM

Now you've gone and encouraged him!
Giok ;~)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:33 AM

With such sonnets he is obviously worthy of encouragement.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 05:41 PM

he's very 'encouragable"

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 11:41 PM

Nobody...feels any...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 06:56 AM

20th of 178...

Sonnet 04/06/02                              DCXCVIII

Shall I send words of passion to excite,
Or gentle whispers to tease out your dreams?
How shall I find a path to hope that seems
Beyond all reason, that we might share night?
You are a wild flower, a dream dryad:
Sweet rose, renewed by dawn and dew, to grow
Afresh each day, seeking to share your glow.
Can I hope to keep you from being sad?
I kiss your fingers, and touch lip to palm
As offer of concern, then raise my aim
To neck, and ear, and lips. How might I claim
Desires? You excite, but remain so calm.
What might I say, to share a moon-lit night,
Looking at stars in eyes, holding you tight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 07:06 AM

BB I'll take some of each
LH   Whaaaa?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 07:51 AM

42 & Georgiansilver

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 11:25 AM

still trying...


still hoping

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 04:42 PM

ok, 42... here is one for you.


Sonnet 09/05/01                                DXLVIII

I read your words, and my dreams try to feel
The coolness of soft silk, and warmth of skin:
I would reach out, and with sweet kisses seal
My heart, that I might heart's desire win.
As soft, and subtle scented as a rose,
But without thorns, you pull me to your soul.
I touch, with lips and tongue, yet hope heart knows
How much these dreams can of my hopes take toll.
I reach to touch you, but words do not hold
The softness of your lips, nor feel of hair.
How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?
Would you, then, drive me crazy with desire
When distance and some years prevent love's fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 05:20 PM

Would it was so.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 07:30 PM

pain....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 11:44 AM

21st of 178...


Sonnet 04/06/02                              DCXCIX

I reach out with my words, and try to hold
To feelings far away. I seek the fire
I see in eyes, to shield me from the cold,
And light my way to hope, to verse inspire.
In dreams I trace a touch along smile's curve,
To know if you are real. How can I keep
From fears? I've only images to serve
As sight, just words from which to passions reap.
Yet, you have sent a part of soul, in lines
With soft whisper of friendship, and desires.
How can I not respond: Does heart see signs
Of all I seek, or are my dreams all liars?
I offer aged, weary heart to one
Too far to kiss, yet far too dear to shun.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 03:09 PM

...tonight...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:40 PM

Another sonnet, then, LH?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 10:36 PM

...as I stand...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 07:24 AM

It would seem somewhat appropriate to let LH have the final say on this thread but 'appropriate' has never been my strong suit so here I go again.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:51 AM

in this post - i have the last word.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:09 PM

kookoochachoo!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 04:00 PM

...inside the rain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 10:45 PM

Everybody knows...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Teresa
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 01:58 AM

Antwerp

Not to worry, everything will look different when you awaken ... with a little help from your friends. ;)

apologies to ursula LeGuin ...

T

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 06:27 AM

silent as almost deadly, tears fall slightly but a dream is there to stay focused and will try to follow that dream.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 12:53 PM

...that Baby's got...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 06:58 PM

22nd of 179...

Sonnet 06/06/02                               DCC

My forest muse, you fill my thoughts with life.
Awakening desires, giving me cause
To dream. Yet, I cannot my passions pause:
My hopes run wild, thoughts are with desires rife.
Your lips draw me, like petals: Would I find
Nectar upon your kiss? How can I trace
Visage, when you remain too far to place
My fingers on your cheek, to my soul bind?
How can I look within your eyes and seek
Desires from such a distance? Shall I ask
To visit, or would passions searches mask?
How can I, when my desire makes will weak?
I long to hold you in arms, to prove real
My desires and dreams, and hope in heart seal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 08:16 PM

LH-

Keep it up, and I will post my daily sonnets one line per post....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 10:33 PM

ok... starting at the begining...

Sonnet 05/12/73                                        I

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 07:11 AM

to continue...

I have no patience with the Hawk
who swoops to strike with sharpened claw
diving lonely, from a aerie high, to castigate and awe.

...j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 07:49 AM

23 of 179...

Sonnet 08/06/02                               DCCI

I search for words, to say my own desires,
But find only clichés. I seek to touch
All that I might of you, one who inspires:
Your heart, soul, mind; Your lips, soft skin, and such.
You offer image to my dreams, and lend
Vision to imagination. The thought
Of rose-soft lips, and smile in eyes, will mend
Past sorrow, and show hope for what I've sought.
I reach to hold you, but remain too far
To send more than my dreams. How can I say
If I might love you? Will real desires mar
All that my words have formed, to hope display?
You know I seek your passion, but as well,
I pray my dreams remain under your spell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 07:54 AM

42- I think the next post is yours...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 08:28 AM

Where is our resident Teddy-Boy now?

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 06:02 PM

what's a Teddy boy?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 06:13 PM

new clothes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 01:08 PM

ButlatelyIseeherribbonsandherbowshavefallenfromhercurls.PERIOD.
Ooh! I feel better.
pol

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 07:13 PM

24 of 180...

Sonnet 13/06/02                        DCCIII

How can I learn what you desire, sweet rose,
From such a distance? Shall I kiss the tips
Of fingers, palm, or nibble on your toes?
Should I seek the velvet texture of your lips?
How can I hope to know your mind, or hear
An echo of your hopes, save by your lines?
Yet, am I wise to wish that I was near,
To look in eyes, searching for passion's signs?
How can I dream of heart's desire, to hold
And to be held, when circumstance conspires
To keep me distant? Yet, my dreams are told,
To give reason why thought of you inspires.
How can I think of you and not dream find,
When just your smile drives reason from my mind?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Chris Green
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 07:17 PM

No they don't. Next please....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 07:51 PM

When shall I see you, dearest friend of mine,

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Sep 04 - 08:07 PM

... I should take pity on LH- reading McGonagall has probably interferred with the verbal sections of his brain....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,John Prescott
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 07:20 AM

Non verbal communication is better.
WHACK!! ******##

JP
PS Where is Hull?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 06:43 PM

25 of 180...

Sonnet 01/10/02                         DCCXLVII

Another year races to end, and starts
Again, after a rest for heart and root.
The season overwhelms all of our arts
With beauty: Vision clothed in autumn suit
Brings bright colors to soul. Morning shows lace
Of frost upon leaves, and clear gold moon-light
Casts shadows of the trees; Might hope embrace
The season, and with harvest set soul right?
Sharp stars, bright beacons of changing season,
Trace sky: A welcome coolness comes with dark.
I find autumn a time to think, reason
What year has brought. Winter will come, to mark
Rest for the coming spring- a hoarding of
Strength, to allow a bursting forth of love.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 04:35 AM

26 of 180...

Sonnet 25/10/02                         DCCLVIII

Sweet dryad, I appreciate concern
But I am still in mourning for past muse.
Heart is not empty: Sorrow fills the urn
That once was soul. I do not smile refuse,
But do not know if I can send you verse
Worthy of those warm eyes. You deserve more
Than echoes of lost dreams. Past hopes still curse
My thoughts: Will tears the light to dreams restore?
To bury dreams, I need some time, alone
If I would not share my despair. I know
You are more than friend, and offer a hope
I need: For image, and the chance to hone
My words. Soul's darkness does not let hope grow:
I must now with my dead desires cope.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 06:54 AM

oh my! that last one is a thing of beauty.
j

it's difficult to think winter when it's 29 degrees and sunny in September.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 07:01 AM

actually, I think the next is even better- but I will wait to post it until I come back in...

but thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 04:52 PM

i'll be away all weekend but will anticipate with bated breath!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 07:15 PM

...but lately...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 12:50 AM

...i've been losing sleep...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 12:52 AM

ps LH i am not going back to read your latest postings to see if there's any sense to be made from them.

I'm just ecstatic that you are able to be so succinct.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 07:29 AM

THE END IS NIGH!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 12:19 PM

...I see...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 05:31 PM

i'm in de "nigh" al.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 06:43 PM

27 of 180...

Sonnet 30/10/02                         DCCLIX

Might I find hope, in thought of snow and stars,
And moonlight upon trees, and silver wind?
Yet, shall I think of hope, when heart is pinned
To sleeve, and dreams are found behind cold bars?
Can thought of you alter the past, to clear
Vain imagination, shadowed desire,
From memory? For all that you inspire,
Do I dare hope to love, and hold you dear?
You offer vision, and future as more
Than weeping fool. But, shall I ask for all
I seek, from you? Should I let my heart fall
When I cannot my future hopes ensure?
I seek for truth, and friendship; love, and muse;
Yet I could not ever your smile refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 07:59 PM

her ribbons

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Sep 04 - 10:01 PM

LH-


Line 2 of Sonnet I

Who has my heart within your lovely hands?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Sep 04 - 07:27 AM

line 3 of sonnet 1.

then let her squeeze to end this misery.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 04 - 01:20 PM

and her bows

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Sep 04 - 08:56 PM

sounds a bit like the BOB to me.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:16 AM

have fallen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 07:21 AM

i have warned you. its going to be soon.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the voice of Bob
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 02:15 PM

from...her...curls...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 04:38 PM

um.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: breezy
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 05:33 PM

this is sad

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the voice of Bob
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 05:33 PM

ah...she takes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 11:55 PM

just like a little hawk

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 03:26 AM

s-quawk!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 03:29 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 10:31 PM

whooooppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!...i'm last!....so far! hehehehehe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 10:41 PM

Just like a woman...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Skipy
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 06:13 AM

I was going to post something, but this thread is taking so long to load that I can't be bothered, so I'm not now!

Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 06:13 PM

28 of 181....

Sonnet 31/10/02                        DCCLX

Will I dream of your kiss, at night, when moon
Is full and all desire is free to seek
For passion? Is your shadow dancing tune
I'll chase upon the wind, to my dreams speak?
Shall sonnets play, as waltzes, and dance round
My moon-lit dryad? Will the stars, in dream,
Weave lace of light about you? Have I found
One that will hope of happiness redeem?
Can I keep my desire away? How soon
Might heart reach to you? Shall I try to meet
Future within dream, or am I buffoon
To chase after your smile to dreams complete?
To lose all past and future, and just live
For present: That would reason to dream give.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 06:18 PM

42

"line 3 of sonnet 1.

then let her squeeze to end this misery. "


close...

What shall I do without your presence fine,

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 07:06 PM

and she aches...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 07:58 PM

line 4 of sonnet I


More beautiful than those from foreign lands?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 08:11 PM

just like a woman...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 09:01 PM

line 5 of sonnet I


And yet, it seems your ivory hands have dropped

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the voice of Bob
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 10:37 PM

and she makes...love...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 10:39 PM

line 6 of sonnet I


My heart upon the ground: Nothing's left of me;

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 11:28 PM

just like a woman

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 11:48 PM

line 7 of sonnet I


And yet, is it really true, could it be

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 12:17 AM

scary stuff...I didn't think LH's attention span was sufficient to continue...even longer than most Dylan tunes.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 12:38 AM

line 8 of sonnet I


That one as you rejects my worldly ways

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 08:24 AM

LH & BB

is this 'lyricus interruptus' an odd kind of foreplay?
or fiveplay ... or do we really not have lives.
j

i wonder how it would scan altogether the way it's been posted

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 08:26 AM

some of us have lives- some 12 hour shifts and a need to stay awake...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MBSLynne
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 08:44 AM

The world may end
Before this thread
And when, my friend,
The World is dead,
Who will know we've reached the end
Anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 12:07 PM

...but she breaks...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 06:39 PM

29 of 181...


Sonnet 01/11/02                           DCCLXI

All Hallows Eve approaches, and my soul
Flies free, to seek for heart's desires. I fear
That dreams outrun reason, and hopes control
Words and desires, yet heart by dreams must steer.
Will stars send vision to become my guide
For paths to woods and wonder? Can I see
My hopes within your smile, or do hopes hide
From all attempts to try to set heart free?
You are dear muse, but dare I try to bind
All my desires to one I do not hold?
I know you care, and all your words are kind,
But I am less than love, and far too old.
I care too much to offer less than all:
Yet, dare I dream that you would for me call?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 08:35 PM

30 of 181...


Sonnet 01/11/02 Alexandrines to My Dryad DCCLXII

How shall I tell you of the power that smile shows?
I would take all the colors from the stars, and leaves,
And seal them in my verse, to give you when it snows,
And still not have palette to paint what heart receives.
Should you now dance with moon shadows, what would you find?
What would you see, within the mirror of your thought,
That I might hope to have heart understand your mind?
How will I know if I offer what you have sought?
Kisses are petals from rose, soft, fleeting and sweet,
But more than brush of lips. I dream that I might reach
To soul, and find a heart that makes my own complete:
How shall I my own soul of forest muse beseech?
Should I ask if you might my soul to heart embrace?
Will you be more than muse, to more than my dreams grace?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 08:57 PM

Just like a little girl.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 09:04 PM

Little Hawk's opus, so far...


Nobody...feels any...
pain....
...tonight...
...as I stand...
...inside the rain.
Everybody knows...
...that Baby's got...
new clothes...
...but lately...
...I see...
her ribbons
and her bows
have fallen
Just like a woman...
and she aches...
just like a woman...
just like a woman
...but she breaks...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Morticalia
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 09:12 PM

and back he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky, with the white road smoking behind him, and his rapier brandished high, blood red were his spurs in the gold noon, wine red was his velvet coat, when they shot him down on the highway, down like a dog on the highway, and he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat...

has anyone ever heard Loreena McKennitt's rendition of Alfred Noyes' The Highwayman? it is the best.

there ya go, my random post in an attempt to be LAST

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 09:31 PM

BB, you left out the parts that were posted under "the voice of Bob". I guess you didn't know it, but I am the voice of Bob around here. :-) Be sure to put those parts back in.

Ahem!

"Queen Mary..."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 09:33 PM

ah, but if it posted under another name, it becomes a joint work... even if the other name is you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 09:46 PM

Okay, then, call it a joint work. I don't mind.

Ahem!

"...she's my friend..."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 10:48 PM

lemme out of this joint and lead me to a smoking one.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 11:03 PM

bad for the lungs...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 02:31 AM

The opus of Little Hawk, and the voice of Bob.


Nobody...feels any...
pain....
...tonight...
...as I stand...
...inside the rain.
Everybody knows...
...that Baby's got...
new clothes...
...but lately...
...I see...
her ribbons
and her bows
have fallen
from...her...curls...
ah...she takes...
Just like a woman...
and she aches...
just like a woman...
and she makes...love...
just like a woman
...but she breaks...
Just like a little girl.
Queen Mary...
...she's my friend...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 02:35 AM

31 of 181


Sonnet 05/11/02                            DCCLXIII

Dryad dances with moon shadows: I find
My dreams chase after. Stars guide steps, this night:
Should dreams trace patterns from the sky, to bind
All future hope, or shall I hold heart tight?
Does mirror'd pool show image that I see,
Of soft concern, and sensual green eyes?
Can verse give view of what I hope might be,
That dreams are true, and thoughts of passion wise?
I seek her smile, and touch, and kiss, to hold
All time suspended. Can my desires trace
Her lips, and can my arms in love enfold
This forest muse? Does hope this vision grace?
May all her dreams be warm, and mornings bright:
Thought of her gives me hope, and my soul's light.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 01:00 AM

..yes, I believe I'll...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 07:36 AM

Well, LH...how many verses does this have?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 12:45 PM

It has 3 verses, followed by a harmonica instrumental.

Ahem:

...go see her...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 05:54 PM

sorry to derail your train of thought.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,the voice of Bob
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 06:04 PM

...again...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 06:33 PM

really? I thought it was the first time!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 11:32 PM

32 of 181...

Sonnet 06/11/02                         DCCLXIV

I cannot match the gems that nature gives,
With frost on trees, and stars set into sky;
Nor can my words capture the shade that lives
Upon blossom, or lips, though they may try.
I cannot keep from dreaming of your eyes,
Thinking of smile, and hoping for your touch.
How can I ask desires? Are my dreams ties
To future, or illusion? Does heart dreams clutch?
I cannot leave unsaid my dreams of muse,
That you are now the center of all thought.
Yet, words do not tell all heart thinks it views:
All of my lines have not this vision caught.
You are dryad, and forest muse, and yet,
I would far more than laurel on brow set.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,skipy
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 06:14 AM

zygomart (look it up!)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 08:32 AM

...nobody has to guess...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 10:52 AM

another day, another sonnet




33 of 181...

Sonnet 07/11/02                        DCCLXV

To each day comes a night, when stars appear,
In promenade across the sky. I see
Those fixed forms, and dream that I might free
Just one, to offer muse: A beacon, near
To hope's harbor, that heart might use to steer
Desires. Thoughts wander without course, to be
Tossed upon page. How can I ask that she
Be what I seek, when I still heart-wreck fear?
To each night comes a dawn, when sun returns,
With harsh illumination. Is the sight
More real than night's desires? This soul now spurns
Cold fact: I would for dreams of passion fight.
In muse I find my focus: My heart learns
Of sun and stars, Love is the greater light.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 07 Oct 04 - 07:51 PM

muse has lost her smile,
it's burried underneath fallen leaves....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 04 - 12:23 AM

...that Baby can't be blessed...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 04 - 05:35 PM

34 of 181...


Sonnet 16/11/02                              DCCLXVI

Should I seek for your hopes, to know desire,
And offer reasons you might your smile send?
Has heart a chance to dream, or do you tire
Of words that can but talk of comfort lend?
And shall I try to reach out, with a rose,
To brush away your sadness? Can my dream
Be soft enough to capture tears? Hope grows
With winter night, but heart must past redeem.
What gift would bring you cheer, that I might touch
Some part of muse? Would book or candle light
A gleam in eye? Are hopes to give you such
Illusion, that my visions have no sight?
I cannot know of sadness, and ignore:
My heart demands I try to smile restore.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 04 - 07:09 PM

...till she finally...sees that...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 04 - 07:45 PM

There! Just because I haven't yet....

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 12:57 AM

35 of 181...


Sonnet 04/12/02                                 DCCLXVIII

Shall I weave words around my muse, to knit
A dream, on chill and windy afternoon?
Thought of your eyes warms heart, yet do hopes fit
To your desires, that I should seek you soon?
Can I find phrase to fold you in my lines,
And wrap my hopes about us, as if down?
How can I share your dreams, when past defines
Each image? How am I to banish frown?
Can my verse offer passion's heat, to hold
You in warm arms, near to my heart, and seal
Some part of soul as token of hopes told?
Might I ask if you would wish my dreams real?
The miles too far to reach, yet my desire
Finds you within my heart, and dreams, entire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 02:34 PM

#1 of 1   Sonnet in Need of Resolution


I give up on the last two lines and offer them freely to anyone who'd like to contribute.

jen

Is there a page or metre fit to speak
The chilly memory of an autumn day?
Where passion spent its fury on my shore
Wrenched anchor on the tide and sailed away.
Am I to toss and follow on its wake
Or rest alone in sun drenched misery?
How, then, am I to wrestle with this ghost
Contend with myriad dangers of the sea.
Where fettered, joy and sorrow search for grace,
Crave silence, peace and respite from the gale
To be, at last, by loving arms embraced;
Safe harbour 'neath the surface of this veil.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 02:48 PM

My tiller given over to another hand
That I know will guide us safely to our berth

Or something

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 04:27 PM

...she's like all the rest...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 06:51 PM

42... your rhyme needs some work...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 07:00 PM

..in her fog...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 07:09 PM

speak / shore                 nope
day? / away.                ok
Wake / ghost                nope
misery? / sea.                ok
grace, / embraced;        weak
gale / veil                ok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 07:10 PM

...with her ampetamine...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 07:31 PM

John 'Giok' MacKenzie


"My tiller given over to another hand
That I know will guide us safely to our berth"

rhyme AND meter...

hand / berth

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 04 - 07:34 PM

and the first line, while quite good, is NOT iambic PENTAMETER.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 02:46 AM

36 of 181...

Sonnet 07/12/02                               DCCLXIX

Had I fair words to fairer feelings show
I might let these few lines be all I send,
These cold and lonely evenings. Yet, you know
My hopes: For true friend, love, and muse to lend
Words to desire. I seek your smile, to light
My dreams, that I could give heart rest. I ask
For chance to think I might spend future night
Looking in eyes, and in affection bask.
Had I a chance to hold you, I would seize
To vision with my soul: You offer all
That heart desires, yet would my passions please?
Can I ask for my dreams, to let lines call
For what words cannot hold? Could winter ease
Heat of desire, or will I to hope fall?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 06:26 AM

thanks all,

i know it's supposed to rhyme but I'm a free verse afficionado/songwriter currently referred to as the "rhyme nazi" in my songwriters' group and this is as good as the rhyming likely to get. It might make a song though.

i'll keep working at it.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Oct 04 - 10:55 AM

...and her pearls...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 12:48 AM

37th of 181...

Sonnet 19 /12/02                         DCCLXXI

How shall I send you season's wish, to hold
Muse in warm arms, and look in eyes to see
Bright stars? Thought of you gives heart hope, that we
Might one day share a dream: Is hope too bold?
I offer all I seek: Have my words told
How much your friendship means? You are a rose
I cherish, for beauty, and hope that grows
From dream to longing I might dream enfold.
How shall I reach out towards desire, to find
My dreams within your smile? Can I seek light
With closed eyes, or hope that hopes will bind
A muse too far to touch, or to hold tight?
I seek, and offer, dreams, to share in mind:
What can I give to give a future bright?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:03 AM

mmmmmmmmm!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:46 AM

38 of 182...

Sonnet 30/12/02                         DCCLXXII

Sweet dryad, offer me some part of hope
That I might year begin with smile. Your eyes
Enough to hold me, might words extend scope
Of dreams, so heart will seem to act as wise?
Dear friend, lend me a quiet look, to heal
The wounds of passing year. Can I afford
To offer heart? How not, when dream is real?
Am I a fool, to be by hope assured?
Soft rose, you are beauty enough to please
Even my dreams. Should I desire more?
You offer in your eyes the stars, and trees
Against dark sky, and hope I'll not ignore.
To hold you, more than I deserve, but less
Than dream desires: Might you some of hopes bless?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 06:58 AM

a new year's sonnet and it's only October! I guess it does feel over -
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:13 PM

last sonnet written ( completed) 30 Dec 2002

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:53 PM

: Ballad (37)

Is mage now worthy of his muse?
How can he know, for sure?
His efforts cannot questions lose,
Nor hopes his dreams assure.

He spends dark nights alone and cold,
In study, seeking wit.
He finds no spell to her heart hold,
Nor words to feelings fit.

All he can do is wait, and see
If he has earned her smile:
He wonders if muse might agree
To share the night a while.

He sees the moon, but knows it's glow
Reflects but her dreams' light:
The stars are gems that serve to show
That muse shares beauty's sight.

Can he place heart aside, and learn
All that his muse desires?
Can mind away from passions turn,
And think bare fact inspires?

She is far more than visions know,
And all that mage would need.
Yet, should he let his passions grow,
And not know where hopes lead?

18 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:53 PM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 07:54 PM

...she takes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 08:54 PM

or is she taken?

LH, it is not that I do not like your verse, nor do I wish to stifle your creativity: But it would be a lot easier on all of us if you would post at least a stanza at a time....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:01 PM

Are you telling me you don't recognize it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:09 PM

my mind is fragmented enough that I cannot. Perhaps if I saw it all at once.

Subject: Lyr Add: JUST LIKE A WOMAN (Bob Dylan)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:31 PM

Okay, I will have mercy on you. Here it is in its entirety:

JUST LIKE A WOMAN (by Bob Dylan)

Nobody feels any pain
Tonight as I stand inside the rain
Ev'rybody knows
That Baby's got new clothes
But lately, I see her ribbons and her bows
Have fallen from her curls.
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl.

Queen Mary, she's my friend
Yes, I believe I'll go see her again
Nobody has to guess
That Baby can't be blessed
Till she finally sees that she's like all the rest
With her fog, her amphetamine and her pearls.
She takes just like a woman, yes
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
Then she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl.

Yeah, it was raining from the first
And I was dying there of thirst
So I came in here
And your long-time curse hurts
But what's worse
Is this pain in here
I can't stay in here
Ain't it clear that--

I just can't fit
Yes, I believe it's time for us to quit
When we meet again
Introduced as friends
Please don't let on that you knew me when
I was hungry and it was your world.
Ah, you fake just like a woman, yes, you do
You make love just like a woman, yes, you do
Then you ache just like a woman
But you break just like a little girl.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 10:30 PM

good song lyrics, but as a poem... have to think about it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 01:32 AM

39 of 183...



Sonnet 12/02/03                        DCCLXXXVI

Sweet dryad, I would have you dream of spring,
Of leaves uncurling on the trees. How might
I winter speed? I cannot songbirds bring,
Nor flowers push through snow to reach to light.
Yet, I would warm you: Shall I think you sip
Sweet teas, and read my lines? Should I dream eyes
Will seasons change, and that touch of your lip
Invites spring blossoms out, to sunward rise?
What hopes can I share, to waken Spring's fire?
Do you want heart, or silence? Tell your wish,
That I might try to give you your desire:
I seek that friendship not by silence perish.
Are words too much to ask, for you to share,
Or do you hide from me because you care?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 07:16 AM

Bob never was one for the niceties...."like neckties...or mufflers"
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Guest-John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:07 PM

Apparently not on this one!!! But maybe now. -John

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 12:00 AM

40 of 184...


Sonnet 18/02/03                        DCCLXXXVIII

I wish I held you now, in arms so tired
Of snow and chill: Thought of you warms my heart,
And brings hope to my dreams. You are desired,
More than words tell, to of future be part.
Sweet one, you wake the spring: You offer sun
To show me my desire. Might I ask how
I can watch your smile blossom? Have dreams won
The chance to let all my hopes heart endow?
Dear dryad, dreams of your smile seasons change:
This winter shall not last. You are the rose,
Waiting its time. I hope life might arrange
That I may kiss you, and show how love grows.
Vision sees white, but my heart seems to know
Future brings season that all colors show.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 12:07 AM

42, I can show you pictures of Bob in both neckties and mufflers.

I am willing to post Dylan lyrics here from now until doomsday so Bob can have the last word, but I'll let Bearded Bruce enjoy himself with the sonnets or whatever they are for a bit.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 12:16 AM

I di leave the labels on, so you would see what they were...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 01:01 AM

btw, I have access to more sonnets than the number of words Dylan wrote...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 11:28 PM

boys, boys...let's not be cranky! the neckties and mufflers line is from a song by one of my favourite crazies...a Toronto songwriter named Bob Snider...with no slight intended to Mr. Dylan's wardrobe.

btw LH...what made you choose Just Like a Woman to chop up like so much stirfry and toss it into the mudcat pot?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 12:08 AM

41 of 185...

Sonnet 21/02/03                        DCCLXXXIX

Are dreams of you enough to give me cause
To offer heart? What would you have me send,
And to what goal? I cannot passions pause,
But seek your smile: I would not friendship end.
Are words of my desire more than you need,
Or do you think that I now offer less
Than reason for my dreams? Do my hopes lead
To vision you might let my heart confess?
Dear rose, you remain in my thoughts, though cold
And ice bury my hopes. I dream your eyes
Might heal heart, and thought of your soft smile hold
Back tears: Yet, are even dreams of love wise?
I ask, but am not sure I want to know:
Hope is frail seed under this season's snow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 06:31 PM

everything is frail under a simcoe county winter snow!

I can hardly wait!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Oct 04 - 06:23 PM

42 of 187...



Sonnet 22/02/03                        DCCXC

I would not die for your eyes: I would live
In hope of seeing stars reflected there.
What might I say, that would my feelings give
True life? How can I know what dreams you'll share?
I am not blinded by your smile, but seek
That thought of me would bring such curve to lip.
Are my hopes vain? Do you think I am weak,
For wanting quiet night, and tea to sip?
I want to hold you, and be held: To fold
A quilt in front of fire, and keep you near.
Have I enough of my desires told
To ask if someday I might there appear?
You know my hopes: Might I ask if you'll tell
The worth of dreams to remain under spell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 04 - 06:45 PM

42, the reason I chose "Just Like A Woman" is that it is probably my favourite Dylan song (and maybe favourite song, period) of all time. Why, I can't tell you, and I don't expect you to understand why it would be, but that's just the way it is. I have felt that way about it ever since 1969.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Oct 04 - 09:01 PM

I think it's the "breaks just like a little girl" line I like best.

thread dropped off the front page...I hate that!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Oct 04 - 09:08 PM

43 of 188...

Sonnet 24/02/03                        DCCXCI

How shall I invocation to you start?
Rebecca, dryad of the wild wood rose,
Pushing past snow to sun, with care that shows
Concern for all around, and open heart,
Lend me the words to place within my art:
I ask that you hopes for the spring inspire,
That I may be worthy of my desire.
Yet, dreams are but of my verse only part.
How might I tell how your soft words reach in
My heart, and give reason to dream? They form
Frame I dress with imagination: All
That I build depends on what I might win
Of your concerns. I read lines, and find warm
And light: That is why I must to you call.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 12:53 PM

How shall I wallabies to you unravel?
Drucilla, nymph of the Bloor Street Viaduct,
Pushing past incontinent snow bunnies, careless of woe
Concern for what abounds, and not the less,
Lend me the ears to disarrange my futility:
I ask that you perspire with discretion,
That I may be worthy of a snort or two in the alleyway.
Yet, why perplex the morning lilies with least sufferance?
How might I tell how you "I'm not home."
When might the illusions of Prendergast surrender
Their dissolute prisons before a flight of fancy?
That I ramble on should be of no concern,
For does not a word of might foreshadow
The reconciliation of your passive yet fortuitous virtue?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 08:33 PM

LH:

aand what form of verse were you trying to accomplish?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 11:45 PM

44 of 188...


Sonnet 24/02/03                        DCCXCII

White roses for my sweet dryad: To fill
Her days with beauty, nights with soft perfume.
How can I offer more? Should I presume
To think my lines might more than rose instill?
I cannot give her stars- I have not will
To alter heaven to give her a crown.
My words have not the warmth of quilted down,
Nor can I from dreams soothe all of world's ill.
Yet, I may offer all that I have found
Of sweet, and sadness, sorrows and bright joy.
What more can any ask? To give to muse
Some part of one's existence leaves one bound
To more than mortal plane. Time may destroy
My hopes, but I shall not ever dreams lose.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 06:59 AM

I'd say it was adverse if queried.

What can you say? LH took time out from his birthday celebrations to pen a poem that contains more hyperbole than a Bush campaign speech and more haunting images than Jabberwocky! If Rhyme and Reason have finally deserted him...it must have been the glow from the candles on the cake!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 10:45 PM

45 of 189...


Sonnet 26/02/03                        DCCXCIII

My dryad muse, how can I find desires
In dream alone? I need to understand
What you would have me feel: My hope aspires
To love, but cannot even smile demand.
I read within your words reflections of
A heart I would embrace. How can I see
Into your eyes and not find soul I'd love?
Yet, should I think you could more than muse be?
I cannot alter time, nor past regret,
But hope I may have some lessons now learned.
Do I ask too much, or do dreams upset?
I would not risk friendship for what I've yearned.
You give me inspiration: Is there more
That I may ask, and still your smile ensure?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 10:47 PM

LH

Happy birthday.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 02:04 AM

46 of 189...


Sonnet 28/02/03                        DCCXCIV

Sweet muse, you deserve one to bring you rose
At dawn, and cup of tea at fall of night.
I wish I would be such, though my mind knows
I have not reason to think I have right.
You deserve someone to care as you've cared,
To hold for joy and solace: To share soul
As you've other's worries and concerns shared.
Am I a fool to dream I'd fulfill role?
I wish you dreams of heart's desire, but pray
I might some of those visions fill. You hold
My soul within your reach: You need but say,
And I would rush to all of muse enfold.
You are beyond my touch, but I must give
All of my dreams, that one might chance to live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 01:01 AM

47 of 189...


Sonnet 02/03/03                        DCCXCV

Dear one, your words reach into heart, and pull
Upon dreams and my soul. You are the spring.
Letting hope grow: I find my thoughts are full
Of future, and the warmth of heart you bring.
How can I not desire you, when you send
Visions of caring and concern? You show
What I now seek: That my dreams need not end.
How can I not let you my feelings know?
Do you know what you give, when you share smile,
To one in winter's grasp? Nymph, dryad, muse,
You alter, with your words, the season, while
Past chill of heart departs, and dreams lose blues.
You are one I could love until I die:
With just one word, you can future imply.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:14 AM

brilliant, LH, brilliant.......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:32 PM

Thanks, people! It was a nice little impromptu birthday celebration as I had let slip to 42 between songs at song circle on Monday, that it was indeed my birthday. Usually nobody knows about it. So, she bought me a little chocolate cake at Tim Horton's, the quintessential Canadian donut shop. Very nice!

That poem...it happened this way. I felt that I was perishing, positively drowning under an avalanche of sonnets from BB, and I had to fight back in some more direct way than quoting Dylan lyrics. So I just went for the basic structure, ignoring the necessary rhyming rules, and went with stream of consciousness. I just wrote whatever came to mind.

I now cannot shake from my head the vision of Drucilla, Nymph of the Bloor Street Viaduct! The Viaduct in question is a huge bridge that spans the Don Valley which divides the city of Toronto (a metropolis of about 3 million) into two irreconcilable worlds...the East End and the West End. Downtown is sandwiched in between and bisected by the valley to some extent. Broken-hearted lovers and other depressed people used to leap off the viaduct to their doom (or at least threaten to), but this is no longer possible because it's all sealed off on the sides with a sort of heavy chain-link mesh that even Chongo Chimp could not get through...although he could probably climb up to the top if he wanted to. It was second in popularity only to the Golden Gate Bridge for taking that "final plunge".

Bloor Street Viaduct

Yet MORE Bloor Street Viaduct!


Drucilla, wherefore art thou Drucilla?!? And whither goest thou?

Much to ponder upon.

I recommend this form of free-verse quasi-sonnet for unlocking the hidden dreams and longings of the poetic mind when all else fails.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 12:14 AM

LH,

Your work is like a two year old strumming the strings of an out-of tune guitar- IF you want to even call it a quasi-sonnet. It does not have the requisite structure, rhyme, or even intent of a sonnet.

"So I just went for the basic structure, ignoring the necessary rhyming rules, and went with stream of consciousness. I just wrote whatever came to mind."




That said, there are parts I like a lot. Just one question: Shouldn't Drucilla be a Nreiad, if associated with a viaduct?

"The reconciliation of your passive yet fortuitous virtue? " is not bad, but NOT iambic pentameter...


I do not know why so many here cannot deal with structure. Iambic Pentameter is really not hard to deal with. Or is it just that, being a rule, you decide to violate it? That is ok, but PLEASE don't call it a sonnet when it is not.

BeardedBruce, King of England ( per Giok)



"So I just went for the basic structure, ignoring the necessary rhyming rules, and went with stream of consciousness. I just wrote whatever came to mind."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 12:30 AM

In the old days a poet used to sweat turning out a sonnet, say. Very difficult form. Exactly 14 lines, all of them hung together with rhyme, rhythm, meter, perfectly. It was too much work for the poet, so blank verse and then free verse came in. And then anarchy. The new poet never bothered to learn how to write a sonnet, or to measure his lines in correct meter and to follow a rhythm system. He dashed off his inspired poem in a matter of a half hour and was surprised when after a few decades of this people stopped reading poetry.



Among the Bad Baboons, by Mack Reynolds
Copyright 1968 Galaxy Publishing Corp.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 01:12 AM

and another sonnet - one per day, hardly an avalanche ...

48 of 189


Sonnet 03/03/03                        DCCXCVI

Beauty is golden, but true heart shines bright
Beyond what eye can bear. You are the sun
Warming my soul: You banish cold and night
From verse with thought I have your sweet smile won.
My heart and arms are open: I would hold
You as my heart's desire. How might I bring
You your own wish? You have not passions told
Save what I can from your sweet verses wring.
Should I try to kiss away tears, with touch
As soft as smile, as gentle as your thought?
Might I turn drop from salt to sweet? How much
Might I offer of what your heart has sought?
What sadness can remain, when you are near?
Hope is too bright: Sorrows may not appear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 01:14 AM

LH,

I refer you to my post of Date: 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM ...

Madness it may be, but there is method behind it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:58 AM

BB - Yes, I see. Quite diabolical. Do you make up all these sonnets on the spot or are they contained in some vast digital library? Did you write all of them? If so, why?

If you answer, I will be encouraged to respond...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 07:41 PM

LH

They are all my own... only 945 to date. I do date and serial number them. But I do have libraries of other sonnets, gleaned from years of study, in case I need them here.

As for the reason, I cannot say. I have been inspired by individuals I call "muses". Sometimes, it is conversations that give me verse: Other times, it is dream. As I said, there is a quiet place within where I can hear the words of my muse: Is writing songs any different?

Let me leave you with this:

Sonnet 24/01/02                        DCL

A sonnet is a frozen tear, a kiss,
Preserved in fourteen lines. It is a pearl
Of layered thought, a gem too bright to miss
When set on page: One blossom, to unfurl
To perfect flower. As amber, sealed soul
In timeless tomb, it can show time long past,
Or hold this instant in it's grasp. The whole
Of heart upon one single page, to last
Beyond even our dreams, it seems a sip,
Distilled to essence. Refined within mind,
Lines sing sweet song, and rhymes in patterns slip,
To weave image that leaves mere vision blind.
A single chord, to resound in one's heart:
Echo of past that might our future start.


Perhaps I have posted it here, before, but it is the best description I have been able to write, so far.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:24 PM

Well, that's really quite interesting. I think you're very good at them, and it amazes me that anyone in this day and age would write that many sonnets. Fascinating.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:01 PM

Actually, there is a book recently ( Barnes?) "501 Sonnets".The sonnet form, while the oldest structured form of verse in modern English, is still quite popular. Each is " a moment's monument": short enough to give a snapshot of thought, image, or feeling, without dragging on. Not much good for storytelling, unless you string them together. But they serve a useful purpose.

Thanks for the compliment. I did like some of your poem- it is just that approximations to sonnets irritate me like approximations to, say, waltzes might irritate a musician.

There are those who consider the form restricting: I have found that having a structure to build on makes it easier to write. Perhaps others do not. I don't say they are for everyone- but to claim to be a poet (in English) and not be able to write a sonnet is like claiming to be a guitar player and not be able to play a chord. IMHO, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 03:13 AM

49 of 189...


Sonnet 06/03/03                        DCCXCVII

I search for rose, to brush across my lips,
To be as soft as dryad's kiss. I find
No bloom as sweet as she. As my thought sips
From nectared verse, I hold my muse in mind.
I search for word to tell of the concern
Within my heart for one so dear. I write
Of passion, but find joy in just the turn
Of phrase that shows reflection of eyes' light.
I search for dream of future to give cause,
A purpose for my fate. Have I now found
One whose soul I might touch? My dreams now pause,
Held still by all the hopes that have them bound.
Sweet one, you offer smile as only gift:
Do you realize how much you spirits lift?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 11:02 PM

Hmm. Well, I like the idea of structure too. After all, I am a songwriter, and songs by their very nature demand a good deal of structure in order to match the musical rythm and timing, the chord patterns, and so on.

I got into writing haiku once for a bit. Maybe I'll look up some of them and post them here. That's a very sparse, simple structure, quite interesting in its own fashion.

I have never actually attempted to write a real sonnet. I'm sure I could, I just haven't bothered up till now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 11:51 PM

should I post some triolets?


or cinquins?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 12:23 AM

But seriously, you might want to try a few sonnets. It does take some practice- I would NOT recommend anyone reading my first 150 or so, though I think there are a few good lines there...

Actually, the biggest problem in writing sonnets is to avoid falling into sing-song phrasing...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 12:27 AM

50 of 190...


Sonnet 07/03/03                        DCCXCVIII

Sweet vision of desire, you hold my heart
With curve of neck, and wisp of wayward hair.
I long to brush it behind ear, then start
To kiss cross cheek to lips, and sweetness share.
I need not image to arouse my lust:
Your words are reason for desire, though sight
Is welcome. Might I hope that you will trust
With picture of your dreams, to make mine bright?
I can but dream: All that my verses yield
Are night's illusions. Yet, I care: You reach
To soul, and with your eyes my passions wield.
How can I to heart other than love teach?
You deserve more than I can ever send:
Yet how could I lack of desire pretend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:49 AM

I LOVE waltzes. I think songs require a lot of structure, yet I don't think Shakepeare would be a convincingly good songwriter...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:54 AM

His songs are... mixed. There is s difference in substance between a song and a sonnet. I DO NOT claim one is better than the other- just different.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 08:34 AM

BB,

I'd love to see a sonnet you have written recently or are writing at the moment. History is all very well but has a nostaglic taste that puts in mind a leaf that has fallen.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 03:42 PM

42,

ok, here is the last one finished...

190 of 190

Sonnet 23/10/04                           CMXLV

I ache, with season and continued strain
With little chance to rest. Thought of my muse
Is all that keeps me from collapse: To gain
Smile gives reason to even rest refuse.
I treasure moments that I share, with one
Who offers world to dreams: What can I give
Save time, to show true worth? Dreams have begun,
But can heart hope to ever those dreams live?
To talk with muse gives me the chance to know
A little more about her: Will she say
Some word of hope, or will she coolness show,
To hold at distance, keeping heart at bay?
She is my muse, with eyes that hold my heart,
And smile that gives reason for dreams to start.

Might still do some tweeking on it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 11:55 PM

51 of 190...

Sonnet 12/03/03                        DCCXCIX

I ask the world of you, dear muse, that you
Might give reason for dreams. I hope to share
Some part of future: Will I find hope true?
Shall I know if you have concern to spare?
I reach to touch you, with words of desire
If not my lips: You are now my dream's guide.
Have I the chance to find in you the fire
To warm my dreams, that I would winter bide?
Shall I dream of your smile, sweet muse, to light
Dark hours until the dawn? Hopes ask for more
Than my words can repay, but I seek sight
Of you, that I might all of dreams restore.
I dream, but know that dreams may not be real;
Yet find in dreams the hope to my heart heal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:10 AM

BB

thanks! I'm a trifle ache-beset myself. In all likelihood it's just the November blues although pre-crone arthritis might be a contributing factor.   

If I can ever wrap my mind around the wrap around endings ... I might just give this sonnet writing another shot. The other attempt did make a delightful song however.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:39 PM

52 of 190...


Sonnet 14/03/03                        DCCC

Bright beacons to desire, your eyes lend light
Of stars in heavens: Will you share your dream,
To tell to one who thinks of you at night?
Can I know of the hopes that in eyes gleam?
Lend hope, dear one, that soul might find a course
To safe rest, far from wind and wave. Be kind
To one storm-tossed and lost: Be now the source
Of peaceful dreams and hope, to future find.
As steadfast as the stars, but near at hand
To hold my hope's attention and give sign:
You are my muse. My heart yours to command,
Will you allow me to your cares make mine?
How can I dream, and not your dreams desire?
I care not just for eyes, but muse entire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 10:42 PM

53 of 191...


Sonnet 15/03/03                         DCCCI

Your joy my heart's desire, I seek to bring
Some of dream's hope to be. What might I send
To show concern? Might I my presence lend
To ease endeavors, that your heart might sing?
Would I might alter time, to spend evening
Giving what comfort arms can share: I'd hold
You as my muse and love. Am I too bold
In wanting you, that my hopes would take wing?
Yet, I cannot desire fulfill: I stay
Too far to send more than my words. Sweet muse,
You deserve better than I have to share.
How can I hope to night's despair allay
When I offer only my dreams? To lose
My doubts, I must far more than mere words dare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 01:47 AM

just for fun, I've been re-reading this thread... ( yes, it is a long shift...)


Please note the following:


From: Bill D - PM
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:39 PM

if this thread reaches the proportions of the "MOABS" thread, I shall personally drive to Mudcat Central (only 2 hours from me) and hold Max at bay with a Dobro tuned in BAGDAD while I switch the lines from his washing machine with those for the server, so you all get water spurting out of your screens when you log on!




I have MY towel.......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 07:15 AM

a good hitchhiker always knows where his/her towel is!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 07:01 PM

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 11:49 PM

ok...I'm an idiot...but I don't know what that means.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:13 AM

just my emoticon... a signature, of sorts. You obviously got the point of my comment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:16 AM

54 of 191...


Sonnet 17/03/03                         DCCCII

How can I share the feelings that I hold
Upon the thought of muse? It is not eyes
Nor mouth, nor even her sweet curves, that ties
My heart to dreams of her. I have but told
How her words reach to me, not how they fold
Around my guts to become part of soul.
I can with words all of passions extol,
But can I show I find her heart is gold?
I wish that muse might have the joy I know
When her words offer insight into heart:
I wish I might ease sorrows, and the wear
Of daily toil. Yet, should I let hopes grow?
I cannot give all I desire, nor start
To show my love: I pray she knows I care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 07:00 AM

ouch! did that time!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 10:31 AM

Bearded Bruce, I always picture you with glasses and fangs when I see your emoticon. Am I close?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 02:20 PM

I figure it's glasses, beard, and mustache. Tha's the typical description of what I am told is the classic Bob Dylan fan nowadays (although I do not have the beard and mustache).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 09:10 PM

to be a worthwhile moniker BB must be a 17 year old, clean shaven woman.

j

who would've thought to use the word guts in a sonnet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 09:35 PM

hmm. my post got lost...

LH has it right- glasses, beard, and mustache. Though I have been known to nibble on the occasional neck....


And guts is ok in a sonnet...


Sonnet 07/05/02         Bhan Sidhe                DCLXXXVIII

It was an odd noise that I heard, this night:
Not quite a scream, but far more than a gasp,
From moonless darkness, with no stars in sight.
What is this coldness, that my insides clasp?
Why do I weaken, hearing sound so far
Only the echo reaches ear, yet mind
Is twisted from intent? How can I bar
Gate of imagination to wyrd bind?
I fall, boneless with fright, and sweat breaks out;
Bowels turn to water with despair. I weep,
To lose all. I moan, but cannot give shout
To more than whimper, nor my reason keep.
She passes, and I live! Yet dare not rise
For fear of seeing Death within her eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 12:36 AM

55 of 193...


Sonnet 26/03/03                        DCCCIII

I cannot long desires deny, nor lose
All hope for future: I shall try to learn
What I might dare, to heart's desire amuse,
And offer her my soul, to sweet smile earn.
I think of her, and find that I have gained
Enough of care to ease my heart, and heal
Past disappointments. I have dream obtained,
To find that smile gives reasons to hope feel.
I dream of eyes, and smile, but know that heart
Is far more precious: Beauty does not tell
Why she inspires, nor how thoughts of her start
To write dreams upon page, and make soul well.
I hope for touch, but know her soul holds mine:
I find by her my heart can love define.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 07:41 AM

Far be it from me to question the use of "guts" ... just bemused that there is no more romantic word springing to BB's fertile mind.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 09:43 AM

and be-mused is just one letter away from a-mused.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 11:59 PM

56 of 193...

Sonnet 02/04/03                            DCCCIV

I cannot other than this longing feel
For one with such a soul. You send your smile
To banish chill, light dreams, and heart beguile:
What might a single kiss from you reveal?
How can I not hope your friendship will heal
All of heart's ills, and offer chance of dream?
Thought of you gives reason to past redeem,
And I seek dreams of you with greater zeal.
I cannot keep from caring, though I know
I cannot ease your toil, nor give you all
I wish: You deserve far more than I send.
I wish you only joy, but my dreams grow
As if I'd bring you smile. Should I recall
My age, or let dreams let my heart pretend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 02:21 PM

alphabetically or mathematically?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 07:28 PM

57 of 193...


Sonnet 15/04/03                               DCCCV

The day would remain dark without your smiles,
And thought of you is as my dawn. You care
For friends: How can I not care that heart's trials
Offer but tears, and do not your hopes spare?
I whisper my desires, and strain to hear
What you might wish of me: I seek to know
How I might win your smile. Should I now fear
To speak of dreams, when I would passions show?
You are one who shares heart, and hopes: I'd give
My dreams to bring you heart's desires, or mend
What causes tears. What might I do, to live
My own desire, and some of longing send?
Sweet muse, you know not what difference you make:
If you are dream, I do not wish to wake.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Oct 04 - 01:14 AM

58 of 193...

Sonnet 15/04/03                         DCCCVI

Bright moon, lend dryad glow to ease the night,
That she might nurture dreams. Soft shadows form
Of leaf and blossom: Warm breeze, hold all storm
From her. Remain a beacon, shining bright
Upon the two of us. Give soul the sight
Of eyes, and smile. Trace form and face, and show
To vision what heart sees: Let longings grow
Under this spell, and give dreams your soft light.
A pale soft snow of blossoms from the trees
Tells season: Gentle wind caresses face.
How can mere mortal not feel that he sees
New world, and love, and seek for lips to trace?
Yet, though I find that season my hope frees,
Should I desire with hot passions replace?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 08:20 PM

59 of 194...

Sonnet 20/04/03                         DCCCVII

Would dryad's tears wash winter's chill from bone
And ease heart's aches? I would rather not know,
At such a cost: I will not let dreams grow
That ask that I would your crying condone.
Yet, should I all of hopes and dreams bemoan
When I remain too far from muse to hold
When you need care? I say I am too old,
But do I ask if you would my dreams own?
Might I give more than moment and these lines,
To be one who might dry your tears, and share
The aggravations of a world unkind?
Might I ask for the hope that heart refines
More than desires? Can I pray that you care
Enough to send me visions of your mind?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:44 PM

you don't want to see the visions of my mind!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:51 PM

are you sure?



Are you muse?










are you awake?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:53 PM

Bibblesnagger! Gundersnatch! Tiftsquiggle!

You two should think about teaming up together. You could live in sin on this thread on a daily basis.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:58 PM

It's only sin if we regret what we are doing....


I thought I was the last one left. Good to know there is still life here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 02:34 AM

60 of 194...


Sonnet 23/04/03                      DCCCVIII

I think of you, sweet muse, when I awake
To dawn and day's beginning: You bring light
To dream, and give reason for heart to make
The effort to show what I hope I might.
I think of you when all is still, before
Sunrise, and after sunset. In your eyes
I find caring: Will you my hopes restore,
That I might dream of finding love realize?
I think of you in dreams, where I can hold
In my arms throughout night, but I desire
To know your heart: Have lines your own dreams told,
Or should I hopes for passion now retire?
I think of you always, awake and in
My dreams, yet can I your heart hope to win?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 12:08 AM

61 of 194...

Sonnet 25/04/03                            DCCCIX

With eyes that offer heart more than the stars,
And smile to heal my soul, you give me source
For hope, and dreams. The thought of you lends bars
To keep out dark and fears, with caring's force.
I read your words, and find they resonate
With my own thoughts. I find in you far more
Than my words show: How can I not dreams state?
You are muse, friend, and one that hopes restore.
I seek to know all of you: Heart, soul, mind.
I try to learn what brings you joy, and all
That I might do to earn your smile. Dreams bind
All my desires to heart, that for hopes call.
You hold the future: Should I think of past,
That I have had slight chance to make dreams last?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 07:05 AM

LH - you are my one true soulmate. (swoon)

BB's courtly boughs to his muse are intriguing, romantic and full of questions. ...just like you! That's why I like them so much.

j

ps. Dylan will never come between us

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:32 AM

This thread don't drift, it
h
a
n
g
s
like dole's dick
before         A
            R
         G
      A
   I
V
And it goes
on...and...on
from the count of one
it will end
when its bits reach
H E A V E N
now four decimals on
we think of it as years
and should stop
when we reach the
AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT


but . we . won't

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:07 PM

bow to 42...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 06:26 PM

Why...thanks, 42! Gosh.

Okay, I have another vital thing to say:

Neef! Diddly! Sicklemyer!

(actually, I guess that was 3 things...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:36 PM

more old postings...


From: 42 - PM
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 10:49 AM

someone will think of putting an automatic post thing like e-bay and it will be like an infinite possibily drive. i'll buy the last poster dinner at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

.....


From: freda underhill - PM
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:23 AM

this thread will go on and on, and on.........until the sudden end of the world. and then, the person who is last may not even have time to find out the glorious truth .. that they were last!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce - PM
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 06:33 AM

Shall we look closely at "The Resturant at the End of the Universe, to find someone entering a post to this thread at one of the tables?


And is not the value in the journey, not the destination?



**********


It looks like 42 will be taking me to dinner, as I post the last sonnet on this thread....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 12:01 AM

62 of 195...

Sonnet 26/04/03                        DCCCX

Might wizard, with a web of words, hold muse
For long enough to know his fate? He dreams
That he might find true love: Should he not use
His gift, to seek if heart is as it seems?
He sees sweet muse, and asks: Is she the one
To know his soul? Her words give cause to think
She shares some of desires, yet should he run
After his dreams? Does he to vain task sink?
She fills his dreams, and thoughts of her become
His reasons to find hope. Her eyes lend bright
Imagining: Her smile becomes the sum
Of what he seeks, and he knows dreams are right.
His skill and knowledge does not have the power
Of muse, but can he hope to leave his tower?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 07:03 AM

put your penny in the bank,hit the infinite probability drive BB and I'll meet you there. LH you can be the chaperone...or Marvin whichever suits.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 04:08 PM

Marvin seems more cheerful...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:56 PM

63 of 195...


Sonnet 26/04/03                            DCCCXI

You are a dream I cannot now forget,
Though I awake. Your eyes remain a part
Of my desires, to stay within my heart:
I find no reason to my dream upset.
I offer now this heart, that you might let
Some part of me be held. I seek the touch
Of your concern: Do I ask for too much,
That I should fear you will your smile regret?
You are my muse, and more, my friend, to lend
Your visions to dreams and my verse. The sight
That thought of you provides guides me towards joy.
Should I ask more of you than to smile send?
I wish that I might someday spend a night
In conversation: Would you with heart toy?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 12:22 PM

Apparently in this thread, everybody has to be last.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 05:50 PM

Well, I think IMO, that I am someone... as are a number of others here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 07:04 PM

Donning my combined Ninja clothes and Harry Potters cloak of invisibility, no one will notice me being last!

Dunnit

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 07:29 PM

we won't?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 07:34 PM

64 of 195...


Sonnet 29/04/03                                        DCCCXII

These dreams of distant dryad ease my heart
And offer hopes for future. Do I need
All I desire? I do not know, but start
Upon a path that goes where muse might lead.
Should I ask for all that I want, when age
Must give me pause? I would not wish her harm
Nor risk regrets: I fear I am not mage
To future know, if hopes will win her charm.
I wonder if muse wants my love? I know
Only my dreams: Should I not wish to learn
Hers, and muse please? From hopes, my desires flow:
Am I a fool, to for heart's thralldom yearn?
I offer my concern unasked: She seems
One I would prize, even without my dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:43 AM

65 of 195...


Sonnet 02/05/03                            DCCCXIII

I feel she is an angel- Muse and friend,
One I hold just in dream, but by whose lines
I remain bound. Perhaps I should dreams end,
And not hope that sweet muse will send heart signs.
I have not earned desires: Why should I think
She has need of my heart? My words are poor
Enchantments: Hers have strength to two souls link.
My dreams just hope that years will youth restore.
I cannot change: The vision that she sends
Wins over sense and reason. She is light,
Upon the dark: Within her smile she lends
New day, to one resigned to endless night.
I prize my muse; her lips, her eyes of fire;
Though mind and soul remain my heart's desire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:14 AM

Lyric On #4: (subtitled) Definitely Not a Sonnet                  

                     
He burned like a candle…Flickered and flared
On a breeze, On a breath
On a moment in time.
Firefly in amber; Scorching and scathing
On a word. On a phrase
On a footnote in rhyme.
Floating and sinking
With the current…With the tide
He held tight to a spar on the sea.   
Held tight to a spar on the sea.

She fell like a leaf. Tumbled and tossed
On a whim; On a gasp,
On a thought in the night.
Will o' the wisp; Darting and dancing
On a tune. On a chord
On a moment of light.
Floating and sinking
With the current…With the tide
She held tight to a spar on the sea.   
Held tight to a spar on the sea.


They flew like the sparrow. Hungry and haunted
On an urge. On an impulse.
On an eddy of air
Hopeful romantics, restless and ruffled
On a quest; On a bet
On a wing and a prayer.
Floating and sinking
With the current…With the tide
They held tight to a spar on the sea.   
Held tight to a spar on the sea.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:03 PM

Once I thought writing (and singing) songs and poetry was the greatest thing a person could do. I was mistaken. But as long as I believed it, I practiced that belief with great passion, and it did produce some pretty good work, so I guess it was a good thing as far as it went.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 12:15 AM

66 of 195...


Sonnet 07/05/03                              DCCCXIV

Fair rose of Apalachin, share your thought
With one who offers heart. I hope to know
The source of your sweet smile: Might you hopes show,
That I'd have guide to what my soul has sought?
Dear one, share vision for future: You've taught
This heart enough to fill my dreams: Now lend
Knowledge of what I might to my muse send
To make eyes twinkle, and have desire wrought.
May I ask for your time? You know I seek
To touch both soul and lips, but do I dream
    Too much, or far too little? Give some sign.
    All I can say will just my dreams refine:
What should I hope, when all my futures seem
To beg that you will to my passions speak?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 12:20 AM

42,

Very nice.


Thank you.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 01:27 AM

67 of 195...


Sonnet 10/05/03                           DCCCXV

I dream of yellow rose, to friendship show
With subtle scent and morning's crystal dew.
When I see soul and heart, can hope not grow
That I might share your smile, and find dreams true?
I dream of soft red rose, that love displays
As flag of heart's desire. I long to touch
With gentle kiss, as if lips might hold phrase
To offer you my heart, should you wish such.
I dream of pure white rose, of moon-light hue
And all the power that the heavens hold.
How can I seek for dream and not find you;
How can I hope if I have not heart told?
I dream of you, dear muse, and know I care,
But do you wish for me to my dreams bare?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 09:34 PM

68 of 196...

Sonnet 10/05/03                               DCCCXVI

I sip at cup of tea: It warms my lips
Like thought of muse, but is not half so sweet.
Can I hope that we might some morning greet,
Or that I might kiss palm, or fingertips?
I finish drink, but thought from dream still sips,
Seeking to know her wish, that I might be
One to fulfill desires. Might I muse see,
That I can with my passion come to grips?

Were I a tree, I would remain in bloom
To please my muse, and keep her from all gloom.
   But then, I could not think to desire hold
   And whisper her my dreams, though they be bold.
      How shall I earn her smile, and tears remove:
      Can I to my sweet muse my caring prove?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 07:30 AM

after being unable to log on to the cat for the last couple of mornings I thought this thread would be long gone... i'm glad to see my worries were unfounded.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:18 AM

1599

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:19 AM

1600. I thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 05:29 PM

But...not in every thread does someone get the 1601st post!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: *Laura*
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 05:38 PM

wow this is amazing.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 09:19 PM

69 of 196...

Sonnet 10/05/03                           DCCCXVII

Are you a dream, dear muse, or are you real,
That dreams might be fulfilled? Should I desire
To touch more than your heart, or ask you feel
Towards me as you my feelings now inspire?
Might you be more than muse? Would you share heart
With one who asks and offers all? What goal
Should I pursue: Should I seek only art,
Or try to know if your heart makes me whole?
Does vision equal sight, that dreams can show
What might yet be? Will I look into eyes
In search for what my heart might wish to know?
Is search for true love ever truly wise?
I cannot less than feelings show, but fear
I risk with truth something that I hold dear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:36 AM

so... I tried to make an acrostic poem from the roman numerals of the last sonnet but was too tired to search for a word that begins with X. ah well...maybe tomorrow.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:42 AM

X is for xylophone... X is always for xylophone.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:13 AM

If Xerses x-rayed xylophones, where are the xylophone x-rays Xerses took?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:18 AM

70 of 196 11/14th...


Sonnet 15/5/03                           DCCCXVIII

You are not dream, but give my heart a base
To dream upon. I do not seek to change
More than this distance: I wish touch might trace
What dream displays, to future rearrange.
Eyes are not gems, but in them I see more
Than treasure. I value all you might give
Of self, and ask if I might hopes restore,
To hold out heart to muse, and let dreams live.
Dream has not power that I find in you:
Your words bring more to mind than just desire.
Yet, passion for my muse is to dreams true:
How can I not love one that dreams inspire?
In you I find far more than source of art:
True beauty, quiet, rests within your heart.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:06 AM

i had a sneaky suspician a certain someone would leap into that breech.
thank you! now, when I return from my appointed rounds today, I can exercise my bent poetique. (it's been a little stiff lately)

still last after all these months

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 03:01 PM

Ha ha I'm the dreaded Veronica virus. any one who clicks submit on this post after me shall have their fingers melted away by my curse rendering them incapable of posting ever again, so my dear people, i'm afraid an outsider is to be the last, cackle cackle.

(are ladbrokes taking bets?? what are the odds?)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ima Gittin'
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 03:29 PM

I am immune from your curse as I have no fingers because I am all thumbs!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 04:04 PM

A Bodhran player then obviously
I shall adjust my curse accordingly

Fzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ima Gittin'
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:06 PM

thannnn oii shal;l; wsuyrel;y typ[e weoityh m,uy tyioews

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:01 AM

OK I have adjusted the curse, you, dear Ima Gittin, will be plauged with the following
1) your fingers and toes will fall off
2) Your face will become a rash of warts and sores
3) You will have dandruff so bad, even head & shoulders wont get rid of it
4) Your eyesight will fail
5) you shall grow horrible shaggy hair all over your body
6) You will go bow legged
7) suffer from chronic B.O problems
8) Be jeered and made fun of by everyone
9) Have horns grow out of your head
10) and become allergic to PC's

(note: due to the severity of this curse it will take a while to kick in. Probably about 90years, but you have been warned, even if you go senile and forget about it, it will happen. be AFRID be very AFRAID)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 09:49 AM

Well, since you've already described me to perfection (whomever that may by) I laugh in your general direction and will continue to boldly go forward...until the last post.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 12:30 PM

We'll both be here for a while then my dear won't we!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 09:49 AM

let's hope so V2.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ima Gittin'
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 10:52 AM

Well you know me then!....Ha!
I shall get that program ...."I talk it types!"
Fur & warts aside I still have the power of SPEECH!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 05:48 PM

71 of 197...

Sonnet 18/5/03                      DCCCXIX

The night is silver, with a muse's moon
Shining upon my heart. How can I fear,
When even shadows seem to dance to tune,
And all my thoughts are of one I hold dear?
What would dryad desire, to fulfill dreams,
In payment for all that she gives my heart?
What might I give, when all of vision seems
To be of one who causes dreams to start?
How can I show my dreams, and my heart share?
Only words now have chance to touch her cheek,
Or brush her lips. To tell her how I care:
How can I not spend dream, to presence seek?
She is my muse, and source of my heart's light:
I hold to vision even without sight.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 12:24 AM

72 of 197...



Sonnet 20/05/03                            DCCCXX

I hug my muse with rose's touch, as soft
As dream upon my heart, or moon on tree.
I kiss her, and throw all of hopes aloft
To weave world for my muse, that dream might be.
I touch her cheek, and bend to brush her lips,
Dusted with powdered dreams, and heart's desire.
I hold her in my arms, and my heart slips
Out of my reach, to muse's touch aspire.

Would I were that rose, that muse might hold near,
To feel the touch of skin, and sound of heart.
I seek my dream, and only silence fear:
She is the one that offers wizard art.
Roses so fragrant, to calm hurting soul,
Give me the strength to keep all of dreams whole.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 11:29 PM

Ahay! Erehay siay hetay astlay ostpay!!!

Eacepay!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 11:33 PM

last for a moment...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Nov 04 - 12:57 AM

73 of 198...

Sonnet 21/05/03                         DCCCXXI

What can I teach the one who teaches heart?
Only the pleasure that her pleasure brings.
I give my love, and offer all my art
That she might be the one of whom sigh sings.
How can I hold my muse throughout the night:
To protect her from cold, and thought of pain?
My arms would keep her near, yet remain light
Upon her, that I might my dreams obtain.
What can I give, when my own soul is hers?
Might she accept all I would hope to give?
Have I earned even smile, with my murmurs
Of dream, when I ask that this dream might live?
My muse knows all, and shares her wisdom of
What she causes in dream: Desire, and love.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Nov 04 - 08:02 AM

last for a moment.
lasting but a moment.
last by a moment
lasting

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 17 Nov 04 - 01:49 PM

I would my dears
raise a few few beers
To the parting of you right now
For these words come out fast,
I'm dertermined to last
I'm a stubborn resonate cow
And so to you, i bid now adieu
and i'll watch you walk down the lane
I'll die or be done till this battle is done
and i know i'll hear from you again

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: darkriver
Date: 17 Nov 04 - 02:37 PM

a way a lone a last along the

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Nov 04 - 06:32 PM

a part, a drift, a kin, a tone, a symmetric, a

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 01:46 PM

a nother, ten, cents, worth, for, my, part, in, this, battle

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 05:15 PM

this is not a battle....it'a a waltz with a thousand partners.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 01:41 PM

A waltz with a thousand parners! I like that

(Pity the shaggin band's playing rock and roll tho!!)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:13 PM

a waltz with a thousand partners- Very Good!

74 of 199...


Sonnet 23/05/03                            DCCCXXII

I ask my muse how I might her hopes please,
To give all she desires. How to earn prize
I seek is goal: Yet, can I her heart seize?
I think each night of smile, and caring eyes.
The human heart is foolish, and seeks dreams
Beyond reason and sense. But, is it crime
To chase after desire? Are hopes but schemes
That demand unearned wages for their time?
With words that reach my heart, and eyes that hold
The future, can dream forget muse, or seek
For less than love? But, have I passions told
In truth, too old to more than hear heart speak?
She is my muse: Her words give me my sight:
How else might I share dreams she has at night?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 10:56 PM

I just found the old 'Killing the Thread' thread. I knew it was 'Closed' but I didn't know it was still accessible. Started by Allan C, ended by Big Mick. Now that was a fun thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 01:16 AM

75 of 200...


Sonnet 25/05/03                            DCCCXXIII

I have but lifetime to write of my muse:
Not long enough, by far, to tell my dream.
Each moment, though, is precious: Heart must choose
How to show feelings, and not foolish seem.
I have my wit and words to tell desire,
But hesitate to all my wishes write.
Should I ask for passion, when muse might tire
Of one worn down by years? Yet, dreams are bright.
I have only poor heart to give, though prize
My muse above the stars: She is the light
That visions show. I seek for dawn in eyes:
How can I hope that dreams might hold heart tight?
I feel the press of time, but seek to show
How much my muse gives hope, to make life grow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 12:54 PM

beardedbruce, your sonnets are lovely, it is them more than the desire to be last has me starring at my screen for ten minutes waiting for the entire thread to open! (no, I'm not on broadband)
Maybe you'll write one and dedicate it to the last poster. er no, that would make it you, then you'd be writing a sonnet for yourself wich could be entirely confusing, furthermore if somebody posted again, you would have to re write the entire sonne.............

(time for a little less coffe i think) tra la la la la la la.........

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 04:52 PM

VV, I'm not on broadband either but this thread loads quickly. Just click on the tiny 'd' alongside the number of posts. It will come up last page first.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 06:58 PM

Vv,

Thank you. You are most kind.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 12:14 AM

200- guess it's time to start the new book now that I have 200 sonnets. :) thank you dear bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 01:45 AM

You are welcome, sweet muse.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 08:13 AM

Thanx Ebbie
You learn something new every day.
Somedays you learn 2 things
And some other days we learn nothing at all.
These are called Bluegrass days

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 06:23 PM

great! miss rebecca can publish her book. BB can start the next 200 sonnets and I can be the last poster on this thread.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 07:18 PM

42,

nope

76 of 200...


Sonnet 27/05/03                            DCCCXXIV

What would this Sunday bring to muse? A gift
Of quiet time, and love? Or does she slave
Upon her toils, to clean and fold and lift,
To earn at cost of energies dreams gave?
I cannot change the weather, nor her tasks,
To give muse time to dream, or write, or read.
I have only my verse to send, that asks
Desires: What might I give that she might need?
Would I might share my hours, and give muse time,
That she would write more of her dreams, and share
Reasons to smile. Yet, my desires but climb
Upon the clouds: My dreams anchor in air.
I should not talk of time, nor of desire:
I must give all to muse that dreams inspire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Fergie
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 07:43 PM

Joe Offer CLOSE this thread NOW.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 08:54 PM

or not...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 12:17 AM

giggle . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 07:28 AM

guffaw
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,VERONICA VIRUS
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 01:47 PM

Guess I'm last then. what a pity









































WHOPPEE!! YAHOOO! WAHEY!!! YOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 05:47 PM

curses...foiled again!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 23 Nov 04 - 08:52 PM

aluminum or copper foiled?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:19 AM

sabres or foils?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Davetnova
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 08:16 AM

on post 1649 the great metaphysical poet Richard Crashaw died. This was of course the year after the treaty of Westphalia.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 08:28 AM

1650! I thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,veronica virus
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 01:37 PM

i thank you too (just for the hell of it)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Davetnova
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 02:42 PM

Ah yes the FIRST Anglo-Dutch War started. What was that about then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: darkriver
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 08:15 PM

Ready.......














Aim.......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 07:33 AM

retire

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Vv
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 02:26 PM

This is really becoming a slow painfull death

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 04:51 PM

ahhhhhhh .... all you veronica come latelies.

go hard or go home
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:49 PM

Ha! Thought you got rid of me, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 09:56 PM

finally...the father of the hopeless thread has come back!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 02:53 AM

I had to see what was happening with my progeny.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 09:20 AM

not a lot...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 09:52 AM

No, it's getting pretty tedious, isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 10:08 AM

needs more sonnets... Have to get my work machine back on the net...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 01:54 PM

The moon swept o'er night time ocean,
The breeze it kissed the sandy shore,
As I strolled along the promenade,
In the bye gone days of yore,
All my troubles seemed so few,
But when i got back home,
I saw through yonder office door,
The PC was still on.
I perused the net for a little while,
Before I went to bed,
Then logged onto the Mudcat site,
And posted yet another thread!

Oh when Oh when will it all end....(Beardedbruce, i Don't expect you to even regard this with so much as a raised eyebrow, it's just an attempt to prove how good you are!)(and not even a sonnet at that)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 03:25 AM

who ever said life was fair?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 06:37 AM

I'll give you a clue.
It wasn't me!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 08:09 AM

The great fire of London started in a bakers shop in Pudding Lane in this year.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 09:18 AM

Life's a magnificent calling...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 11:12 AM

Some people need to get one!
Giok :~)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 11:59 AM

Any idea where You'd get a good one for a reasonable price?????

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 12:13 PM

My mate got life down at the Old Bailey.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 27 Nov 04 - 01:40 PM

yeah but i heard it wasn't to his satisfaction
He was told for satisfaction, he would have to go to the satisfactory.

Boom Boom

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Nov 04 - 01:11 PM

budump ching!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 04 - 01:14 PM

Pintable or shop till?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Nov 04 - 01:42 PM

The Death of Emmett Till

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 02:07 PM

The death of Emmet till what?
Till tomorrow?
Till next week?
Till The Taxmans gone?

Tell, please do!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 01:57 AM

sonnet 77 of 200 to my muse...


Sonnet 29/05/03                         DCCCXXV

My muse is as a rose: So soft and sweet,
I fear only that I dare not muse hold
As near as I desire. Do fears defeat
All of my dreams? At least my words are bold.
My muse is as the moon: Beyond my reach,
But beautiful past all compare. I look,
Seeking to see her face, but find hopes teach
Only that dreams are images in book.
My muse is all I need: The one who gives
Light to my dawn, and music to my night.
How shall I try to reach passion that lives
Only in heart, far from even dream's sight?
Yet, how can I be what I seek to be,
A trace of dream within her memory?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 07:51 AM

ahhhh, to inspire only one sonnet.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 11:21 PM

78 of 201...



Sonnet 30/05/03                         DCCCXXVI

Thought of my muse gives me far more than all
That verse might offer: She gives me a chance
To find a future where my hopes stand tall,
And I hold more than just dreams of romance.
Shall I beg muse for all that she might give,
To send her visions to become my dreams?
Yet, should I dream that dreams of heart will live,
When years do not allow what in heart teems?
I offer muse worlds of my verse, to build
My dreams within her reach. But can I show
How much of heart her smile and eyes have filled?
What can I send of self, that muse might know?
The thought of muse is all that dreams desire,
But heart cannot its need for hope retire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 11:28 PM

42,

It is easy to inspire one sonnet- the difficulty is in giving the poet enough to work with that (s)he may write more.


See my post of 23 Aug 04 - 06:20 AM


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 07:10 AM

Is this the one you mean?

Though I may dream of you, I cannot say
You send me visions. Image fills my thought,
But I do not know how you feel: I stay
A step farther away than I have sought.
Though I may seek for muse, I cannot know,
Without reply, what I in you have found:
Is it too much to ask, to have you show
Some part of what you feel, to feelings bound?
Though I may beg for words, I cannot ask
What I might wish. How can I see a smile
Over this distance? Would written words mask
The feelings sought, or let heart rest a while?
All I might do will not gain me my goal:
How can I reach your heart, or touch your soul?

I think the element that draws me to the sonnets is the questioning, hesitation and searching...something much reviled in the certainty and demands of everyday relationships.

I do enjoy the anticipation of that yearning.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 04:30 PM

Okay...whadya, like, get when ya flippin' cross a flipfaced dipwad with a dip-faced flipwad? Or the other way,...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 09:37 PM

no matter what, each sonnet is beautiful in it's own way to muse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 07:29 AM

B.D.in B.R. - crawl back into your bottle and let the rest of the world spin it around for you! plus...to answer your question...neither.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 06:39 PM

sonnet 79 of 204...


Sonnet 01/06/03                         DCCCXXVII

I place a kiss upon her back, where wings
Should be: My angel muse gives heart desire
To fold her in my arms. My passion sings
How beautiful she is, and heat of fire
Fill all my dreams with light. The touch of skin
Would capture all of soul, and I would give
All I possess, to her sweet, soft, smile win.
How can I show that she makes my dreams live?
Who knows what future holds, with thought of muse
To guide my dreams toward the source of light?
What path leads to her, and what are the clues
That might tell me how to do what is right?
I want to offer love, but do I dare?
What can I say, to show how much I care?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 10:28 PM

i was missing ya BB. thought I had it there for a while.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 07:00 AM

does anyone ever open links from "guests" who can't bother to even introduce themselves. I don't think so!

frail ploy to be last.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 06:45 PM

sonnet 80 of 204 to my muse...


Sonnet 05/06/03                         DCCCXXVIII

I see in eyes what I desire: A heart
That shares concern, and feelings place in view.
How can I persuade her how much a part
Of dreams she has become, and dreams are true?
I see in smile all that I seek: Sweet lips
Express desire and thought, soft to the touch
But firm in heart's resolve. Yet, dream still sips
From hopes that passions are not far too much.
I see in muse true beauty: Heart and soul
That fulfills yearnings for a source of light.
It is her happiness that becomes goal
I seek to find: All dreams of muse are bright.
She is the vision of my heart's desire:
A woman full of life, with soul of fire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 10:22 PM

Well, I do seem to be posting most of this thread. Is there no one out there who has something to add? It's getting lonely!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 10:26 PM

I do NOT always have to be last!

: )~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 10:31 PM

okay. I will give you that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 07:07 AM

you can make a valiant attempt at least.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beetle cat
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 07:37 PM

you guys are silly. it takes WAY to long for this page to load..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 07:09 AM

so, the highly speeded WILL inherit the World! (or at least the thread)
j

did you hit the lower case 'd' ? that lessens the load.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Dec 04 - 06:47 PM

sonnet 81 of 206...


Sonnet 06/06/03                         DCCCXXIX

Dreamer of dreams, I cherish all of you,
As you are now, and as you wish to be.
I want you near, that I might know as true
That eyes dance with the stars, and your dreams free.
I think of you, awake and in my dreams,
And know you are not far away, in thought.
Yet, I wish I might find if your kiss seems
As sweet as imagined ones I have sought.
Do I see what others do not? I know
Only that I find you to be muse, sweet
And caring: Dreams of you are lights that show
A path to heart's desires that hopes might greet.
I would not want to ever say goodbye:
Nor would I ever seek to see you cry.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 02:50 AM

sonnet 82 of 206 to my muse...


Sonnet 08/06/03                         DCCCXXX

I offer muse far less than she deserves:
Only my heart and soul. Would I might send
Enough to bring her joy. Yet fate reserves
That chance: I cannot healing to muse lend.
I wish I could hold her in arms, and share
All that she feels. I cannot steal her pain,
But would do what I might to show I care:
How can I help, to happiness obtain?
I dream of muse's eyes, and gentle touch
Of lips on curve of neck. She remains near,
In heart and heart's desire, but should I such
Dreams of passion allow? Do I dreams fear?
She is reason to dream; The source of hope
That future may be kind within dream's scope.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:02 AM

working the night shift again BB?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:08 AM

of course...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:09 AM

the work needs to be done 24x7...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:09 AM

so you should take the next post , for 1700...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 08:30 AM

Can't resist the chance to steal

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:28 PM

Sonnet 83 of 206...


Sonnet 20/06/03                                DCCCXXXI

I love all of my muse: How can I choose
What gives my dreams their light? Must I decide
What gives my visions form? Can heart refuse
Even a single strand of hair, or hide
How much I seek to hold all of her near?
I cannot not desire her: She holds heart
Within those eyes. My visions become clear,
That I will not with hope for muse e'r part.
I think of her, wanting to know her dreams,
Wanting to feel her touch: She is the source
And goal of heart's desire. How can I tell
How sweet the dream of holding her now seems?
I know that heart cannot withstand the force
That her eyes offer, when they cast their spell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:35 PM

Geez. The weather is flippin' awful tonight. It's a good night to stay home and get totally wasted. With that in mind I am gonna crack open another Molson's and turn on the tube.

I have tried to read some of them sonnets, BB, and I have to tell ya...DON'T quit your day job, man! I would write some myself if I thought it would get me some girls, but I ain't some kind of limp-wristed donuthead from lala land goin' on about whatever the flip kind of poetry. You amaze me, man. Get a flippin' life, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:46 PM

BDiBR,

My muse seems to like them. Thus, they are worth the effort. If one can make even a single person happy, it seems to me that that would be worthwhile.


I have a life- and I don't need to stay home and get wasted. Or turn on the tube.

If you don't like sonnets, fine- Don't bother reading them.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:48 PM

Ahem! A William McGonagall effort...

THE NEWPORT RAILWAY
by William McGonagall

Success to the Newport Railway,
Along the braes of the Silvery Tay,
And to Dundee straightway,
Across the Railway Bridge o' the Silvery Tay,
Which was opened on the 12th of May,
In the year of our Lord 1879,
Which will clear all expenses in a very short time
Because the thrifty housewives of Newport
To Dundee will often resort,
Which will be to them profit and sport,
By bringing cheap tea, bread, and jam,
And also some of Lipton's ham,
Which will make their hearts feel light and gay,
And cause them to bless the opening day
Of the Newport Railway.

The train is most beautiful to be seen,
With its long, white curling cloud of steam,
As the Train passes on her way
Along the bonnie braes o' the Silvery Tay.

And if the people of Dundee
Should feel inclined to have a spree,
I am sure 'twill fill their hearts with glee
By crossing o'er to Newport,
And there they can have excellent sport,
By viewing the scenery beautiful and gay,
During the livelong summer day,

And then they can return at night
With spirits light and gay,
By the Newport Railway,
By night or by day,
Across the Railway Bridge o' the Silvery Tay.

Success to the undertakers of the Newport Railway,
Hoping the Lord will their labours repay,
And prove a blessing to the people
For many a long day
Who live near by Newport
On the bonnie braes o' the Silvery Tay.


---------------------------------------------

You can read this "Poetic Gem" online at

http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/poems/pgnewport.htm

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 07:57 PM

Faces in the Fire
January 1860

I WATCH the drowsy night expire,
And Fancy paints at my desire,
Her magic pictures in the fire.

An island-farm 'mid seas of corn,
Swayed by the wandering breath of morn,
The happy spot where I was born.

The picture fadeth in its place;
Amid the glow I seem to trace
The shifting semblance of a face.

'Tis now a little childish form,
Red lips for kisses pouted warm,
And elf-locks tangled in the storm.

'Tis now a grave and gentle maid,
At her own beauty half afraid,
Shrinking, yet willing to be stayed.

'Tis now a matron with her boys,
Dear centre of domestic joys:
I seem to hear the merry noise.

Oh, time was young, and life was warm,
When first I saw that fairy form,
Her dark hair tossing in the storm;

And fast and free these pulses played,
When last I met that gentle maid-
When last her hand in mine was laid.

Those locks of jet are turned to grey,
And she is strange and far away,
That might have been mine own to-day-

That might have been mine own, my dear,
Through many and many a. happy year,
That might have sat beside me here.

Ay, changeless through the changing scene,
The ghostly whisper rings between
The dark refrain of "might have been."

The race is o'er I might have run,
The deeds are past I might have done,
And sere the wreath I might have won.

Sunk is the last faint flickering blaze;
The vision of departed days
Is vanished even as I gaze.

The pictures with their ruddy light
Are changed to dust and ashes white,
And I am left alone with night.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 08:06 PM

LH,

And what have I done to you ( recently) that this thread becomes deserving of William McGonagall?

Regardless of your answer, I think you are over-reacting!

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 08:51 PM

You may be right... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 08:55 PM

I have to say I like the sonnets very much.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 09:06 PM

....durn...I may just have to remind some of you of my threat of a few hundred posts ago...and noted by BB a couple of hundred ago...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 09:15 PM

I STILL have my towel...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bernard
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 04:53 AM

I remember Sonnets - 1960s - can't remember what they tasted like, though...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 05:41 AM

sonnet 84 of 206...


Sonnet 13/07/03                                DCCCXXXII

Sweet muse, you offer hope for love; Reason
To dream of heart's desires. How might I share
The joy knowing you brings? Is this season
To grow desires, and show how much I care?
Will you encourage dreams, with your sweet voice,
And words of verse? You know I wish to hold
Muse in my arms, but what would be your choice?
I shall in actions do what I am told.
I would see muse as clearly as I could,
And know your heart, and mine. I hope to find
Desires within your dreams, but my muse would
Be all: If only I might know your mind.
You are dear muse, a dream I hold as real:
How can mere words tell you how much I feel?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 07:36 AM

and I still believe in the infinite possibiblity drive....and that there's a Heart of Gold out there somewhere.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica virus
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 08:19 AM

Hi people, Thought I'd gone Huh!!
My apologies, my absence was due to a car smash, and a stay in hospital. Not too serious Broken leg, whiplash, heavy cuts and bruises, and a fractured collarbone, but hey hey, i can still type!
Anyone interested in buying a Mitsubuishi Gallant, front missing, no windows, lowered roof, square wheels.... open to offers
One has to be upbeat in these situations i think

Thanks for keepin the thread alive especially for me tho.......
:o)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 06:45 PM

Vv,

Hope you are doing OK- If laughter is the best medicine, you may have come to the right place to heal up...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Dec 04 - 03:16 AM

sonnet 85 of 206



Sonnet 20/07/03                                DCCCXXXIII

I hunger for my muse- Her smile, her eyes,
That feed all my desires. What might I say,
To angel? Can words show dream, or advise
How much she means, or hopes of love display?
I hold my muse, and kiss away her tears,
And soothe her weariness with sweet concern.
I wish that I might steal away all fears,
And for them only love of her return.
Might angel fly to me, to free my soul
From sadness, and despair? In dreams I find
Only my own desires: These years take toll
Of me, to see pleasure only in mind.
She is more precious than my lines might tell:
Without her, even heaven would be hell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Dec 04 - 06:25 AM

BDiBR: try a little tenderness: marinate your heart instead of your liver
VV: ouch!
BB: keep 'em coming

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica Virus
Date: 13 Dec 04 - 01:53 PM

Ta Beardedbruce nice to get back to perusing your sonnets, Kepp em coming!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Dec 04 - 07:08 PM

86 of 206...


Sonnet 23/07/03                                DCCCXXXIV

Upon a mountain mage might find his muse
Looking out upon the world, yet apart
From frantic pace. He offers all his art
To fulfill all desires: Passions now choose
To send her all his dreams. He does not lose
By giving: He holds tight to visions, vain
Though his hopes seem. Yet, what he stands to gain
Exceeds all hopes: Can he that chance refuse?
He offers all, but knows not to demand:
In years, he has some wisdom earned. He knows
Dreams are not real, though might in time occur.
He seeks to know her heart, to understand
If he might fill her needs. His desire grows,
But he wonders how his dreams look to her.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 12:47 AM

sonnet 87 of 206...


Sonnet 24/07/03                         DCCCXXXV

I dream about the curve along her jaw,
To touch with fingertips, or with lips trace
Under the moon. Is there unwritten law
That I must hope to touch only her face?
I dream of all of her: Her neck a path
For passion and desire. I will not lie:
I lust for this sweet maid, but fear the wrath
That undesired actions would let fly.
I cannot think it wrong, to want my muse,
But wish her happiness. Should I let dreams
Fill all my lines, or quietly refuse
To have passion control my heart with schemes?
I must from muse all guidance for hope take:
She has the means to heart destroy, or make.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 07:22 PM

sonnet 88 of 207...


Sonnet 02/08/03                         DCCCXXXVI

I would not want my muse to fade away
To ghost of my desires: She is the light
That brings all of my dreams and hopes to day.
I wish only that arms could hold her tight.
I would send amber, green to match her eyes,
Or emeralds, had I means. But I can give
Only my love, and this: Just poem, that tries
To find a way to let my own dreams live.
I would roses now send, but thought of thorn
Seems out of place: Dreams only pleasures bring.
What might I find, when thought of her has borne
More joy than that which they say angels sing?
A kiss for muse, to show her that I care:
A gift of heart, all the love I now dare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 03:28 AM

sonnet 89 of 207...


Sonnet 04/08/03                         DCCCXXXVII

How can I keep from loving muse with eyes
That show such caring and concern? I see
All I desire: Thought of her smile makes wise
Even my foolish hopes that kiss might be.
Her lips call to me, but I cannot reach
Across this distance to desired bliss:
I depend upon dream to passions teach,
But dreams have not the power of one kiss.
She owns my dreams, and heart: How can I stay
So far from one I seek? Had I the chance,
I would my dreams make real: I know the way,
But not if she would wish for my romance.
Her eyes fill me with longing, but I try
To keep control, and not to sweet muse fly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 06:16 AM

sorry to leave you hanging by a thread BB. I've a raging head cold that makes looking at the screen a nightmare!

lovely mountain image.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 07:35 PM

sorry, 42. You only get half a day at the end for a headcold...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 07:43 PM

Would anyone like to hear my latest analysis of the lyrics to "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands"?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 07:46 PM

LH

Sure, but don't you think that would deserve a thread of it's own?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 01:08 AM

sonnet 90 of 207...


Sonnet 07/08/03                         DCCCXXXVIII

Eyes of muse are radiant: With their light
She chides the moon for its shallow concern.
I beg to see their fire, and hold her tight,
But can I with my words these desires earn?
Her smile invites my longing, and her skin
Calls out to be caressed. She has a face
I dream of seeing wake: How can I win
The chance to dreams with memories replace?
My dreams are of my muse, and of desires
To give some of the joy she's given me
With words and smile. She more than love inspires:
She gives reason that all my words should be.
True beauty need not blush, nor be ashamed:
She is my muse, and has this poet claimed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 06:53 AM

LH -only if it's in Latin
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 08:29 AM

42:

How is the cold? Any better today?

We really need to be nice to LH- he may be all that stands between this thread and Shatner!

Even if he does post McGonagall...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 06:09 PM

BB - The cold is just hunky dory. Now me...I feel like s&%t. (but at least my eyes aren't crossed and I haven't broken any ribs yet.)

so...here's a sort of anti-sonnet for you. Probably should put it on the christmas depression thread instead but they're REALLY down and I'm just a songwriter.

J

Cold Comfort

Are the answers in the heavens,
Revelations in the sky
If we search the constellations
Are there truths hung there to find?
Where's the beacon in this darkness?
Where's the distant guiding light?
Where's the glow that marks the end
of this tunnel's lonely flight?


Pride's hanging on the North Star
Envy sours the Milky Way.
Waning moon offers cold comfort
On a bleak December day.
Love is furious as a blizzard.
Raging mindless as it hones,
each single flake a fragile knife
cutting to the bone.


Glacier gathering in the corners
Poised and ready for a fall
Here Hope's a glistening icicle.
Patient for an April thaw.

I can't see past the bottle
I can't see through the snow
I can't look beyond tomorrow.
I can't care anymore.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 08:11 PM

42:

See my post of 14 May 04 - 04:42 PM


People have run screaming in fear from that one...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 08:33 PM

She waits
Magnificent yet unseen
At the heart of Life
Watching as the weary homeowner trudges by
Under his burden of reponsibility
And unearned guilt.
She waits
Luminous and eternal
Her gentle hands weaving
Tapestries of fate and circumstance
For those who drift
Or else are kept from drifting.
She waits
Offering her wand of blessing
From which fall a thousand sparkling suns
Each one a beacon of hope
In an expanse of seeming darkness.
She waits
At the heart of Life
And says: "Mine are the steps that made your path.
Mine are the hands that pulled aside the thorny branches.
Mine is the breath that melted the ice that covered your shivering breast.
Mine is the order and the axis and the will to endure.
Mine is the whispering wind and the sounding sea.
Mine is the rugged mountain and the sleeping valley.
And all of it a home to you,
Whenever you no longer fear these hands of mercy,
Come home to me and rest."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica Virus
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:49 PM

This thread is never going to end, Think it's a contender against the mother of all BS threads in the future (to which i have never contributed I'll add.)
Still forward march. . . . . . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 06:31 PM

Just like the battle between Martin Gibson and Don Firth is never going to end... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 03:46 PM

so... just when Fred Eaglesmith's new album was making me feel that I wasn't the saddest person in the world... my 42 year old brother in law was found dead in his bed. arrrgggghhh where's the Bushmills?!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Veronica Virus
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 01:37 PM

My condolences, may you and your family find strength in your hour of need.
My thoughts are with you and yours

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 04:18 PM

Fer gosh sakes, that's an early age to go that way. My condolences, 42.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 06:07 PM

42

<>

My condolences.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 06:10 PM

91 of 208...


Sonnet 08/08/03                         DCCCXXXIX

I dream of those eyes, but I wish to stare
Into your soul, and feel your beating heart.
I cannot with words show how much I care,
But only you can give love leave to start.
What pictures might you send, to show the fire
I find within your heart? What view might show
What vision of you sees? Dream does not tire
Of looking at you, and hoping to know.
You offer image: Only dream can hold
To hopes, when arms cannot to desire reach.
Yet, dream might be enough, if truth be told:
Thought gives my heart the chance to passions teach.
All I require is hope, and honest smile:
It is not you, but my heart now on trial.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 06:54 PM

thanks all! It was peaceful but very unexpected. When I arrived home after my consolation and planning visit (in -30 degree weather) the cats had pried the door open and my water pipes were all frozen. Tis the season to be jolly!

HO HO HO

j
ps. but I did find the Bushmills!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,ranger1(whose password is lost in cyberspace
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 07:32 PM

I have a request: can I be last for about 24 hours? I am having a terrible holiday season. My password to Mudcat is missing, I had to put my 19 year old cat to sleep this afternoon , and I'm currently unemployed and broke. This would make a great holiday gift, and it doesn't even need to be wrapped.

Anyway, R.I.P. little GoGo. You were an awfully good little cat and I'm going to miss you...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 09:45 PM

26 hours...sorry about the cat.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 07:03 AM

just talking to myself.
not making any sense.
coffee

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 05:51 PM

Ranger1,

Sorry to hear about the cat. In the last couple of years, I lost a 21 year old, a 10 year old, and a 8 month old...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 06:28 PM

Sorry to hear about the cat, I lost one last thankgiving (2003) she was 9.

I need coffee I think,

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Dec 04 - 10:35 PM

sonnet 92 of 210 to my muse...



Sonnet 17/08/03                         DCCCXL

I seek no power over muse, but care
About how she might feel: I value thought
Of smile, and laughter in her eyes. I'd spare
Her from tears, had I wish: But wish is naught.
I seek to touch my muse's heart, with lines
That offer dreams, and show what hopes have wrought.
She is what I desire: Distance confines
Actions, but not my dreams. But dreams are naught.
I seek all of my muse, to share her soul
And reach her heart. She has my own soul caught:
It is the thought of her that dreams control,
The hope I might muse hold. But hope is naught.
I have nothing but wish, and dreams, and hope:
How can I think I might alter fate's scope?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Friend of
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 09:03 AM

Hello My name is Sandra and I'm a friend of "veronica", We greatly enjoyed visiting this thread, but today i visit it alone.
Ironic, considering the twist of this thread now, but my dearly beloved friend "Veronica" was found dead on Christmas Morning. An unnoticed puncture in her lung from a recent car accident to blame.
It naturally cancelled Christmas for all her friends and family who loved her so dearly, but we take strength in the knowledge we are not alone, and time will heal all wounds.
I plan to continue visiting mudcat, as it is a brilliant site, and you're all great people.
Signing off for my Beloved friend "Veronica"
Peacefull New year to all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,ranger1(from computer not my own)
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 10:28 AM

Thanks for the condolences and the 26 hours of being last.
Sandra, I am so sorry to hear about your friend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Dec 04 - 12:22 AM

93 of 210...

Sonnet 19/08/03                         DCCCXLI

I cannot muse refuse, nor love deny
For one I do not hold. She is the source
Of light within my dreams. Is it remorse
To weep for my desire, or for hopes cry?
I can but feelings write, and beg reply,
That she might tell what she would let me seek.
What dare I say? I can only dreams speak,
And hope she will be kind, and let heart try.

She is an angel, all that vision needs
To bring heaven to heart. Verse feathers wings,
    And light of halo reflects from her eyes.
She is wild rose, soft to the touch. Heart pleads
For chance to be as dew, and kiss: Hope sings
    Desires, to hold my muse, and be made wise.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Dec 04 - 07:40 AM

I haven't been able to make my computer come to the cafe for the last couple of days and am devastated to hear the sad news.

there seems to be a rash of untimely deaths in the last week...including the 23 year old daughter of a friend who died last week from a rare blood disorder.

Makes you want to hug your kids until it embarrasses them!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Dec 04 - 08:56 PM

not one to my muse....


Sonnet 21/10/92                                        CDXXXIII

                I now have been upon the edge, and seen
                The end of my existence. Shall I mourn
                All that I have not started? Shall I glean
                Some wisdom from this life, or shall I scorn
                To offer up the seeds of my life's crop?
                I shall not weep: I may have had my share
                Of dreams, but yet I know that Death will stop
                All my concerns. No one will know I care.
                I feel my own mortality, and fear
                The emptiness I cannot see into,
                The loss of memories that I hold dear,
                Far more than pain: I am to my mind true.
                 To each, an end must come, and I shall rest
                 Resigned to my fate, unknown and unblessed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Dec 04 - 11:16 PM

sonnet 94 of 210 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/08/03                         DCCCXLII

I offer rose to muse, that blossom learn
What beauty is. In muse's eyes I see
A part of heaven's light: How can I earn
My heart's desire, that her desires might be?
I offer shoulder to my muse, for tears,
And to lend to her what support I may.
I would don armor, and fight off her fears,
But should I try to more than at knight play?
I offer heart, and soul, and dreams, to show
How much her smile means. It is my choice,
To care. In her I find the chance to know
My dreams: How can I not to hopes give voice?
How can I less than all my being give?
She is my muse, giving me hope to live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 02:11 AM

BB...can the muse ever be male?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 02:31 AM

The muse can be male, female, animal, spiritual, or a geological feature- WHATEVER gives one inspiration. As I have discussed with LH, I find that I hear my muse in that "small, quiet place inside", were others go to meditate. Sometimes one can know who the muse is- but not always. Take a look at "Lives of the Muses" - it is a good treatment of a number of artists and their ( human) muses.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 08:41 PM

thanks BB. I will
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 07:19 AM

i guess I should leave well enough alone but, somehow, can't bear to see my baby drop off the front page.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 07:22 AM

well, 42 has been last for all of this year, so far... I guess it is my turn now.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,sandra
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 11:33 AM

Well I might as well put in my 2cents worth!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 11:55 AM

sense, or even cents, is always welcome here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 01:21 PM

Sense? Hmmmm do I have that?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 01:42 PM

sonnet 95 of 210 to my muse...



Sonnet 25/08/03                         DCCCXLIII

Might poet capture muse, with web of dreams
To hold in arms all his desire? He weaves,
Each waking moment: All his nighttime teems
With thought of muse, but for her kiss he grieves.
He wishes he might change the world, to let
All sorrows fade. He wants muse to enjoy
The heaven that she brings to dreams. Hopes set
No limits on desires, nor dreams destroy.
How can he face future without his muse?
He must attempt to bring laughter to eyes:
Her tears wash away dreams. Can he refuse
Even faint chance, to any hope realize?
She is his muse: He seeks only her smile.
But he will dreams enjoy, at least a while.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 02:16 PM

sense...
cents...
scents..


By the way, bye bye, and buy bonds.


As the owner of an AMC car, I am permitted to Ramble...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 02:27 PM

I once owned an AMC Concord that gave me no peace...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 03:15 PM

I ramble and don't own a AMC Car.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:02 PM

Sweet muse,

But ask, and I will find you one...

Just don't expect to get parts for it...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:05 PM

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:06 PM

that would be one thing I don't ask for.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 05:14 PM

My best car ever was my mon's red Rambler station wagon (1970) 286, 8 cylinder...moved like stick and cornered like it was on rails. Blew a lot of the boys out of the water in that one!

ahhhh... fond memories.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 05:19 PM

1970 AMC V8s were 304, 360, and 390... up from the 290/343/390 of 1968-69. In 71 or so they came out with the 401 ... SMALLBLOCK.

My 390 Auto was spec'ec at 5.7 sec 0-60 Factory... but a top speed of 127 mph.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 11:29 PM

hey I'm just a girl eh! ...and it was a long time ago so maybe it was the '69 and, anyway...what's a few cc's between friends?
j
p.s. I meant "stink" not "stick"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 08:28 AM

cubic inches... 60 cu. in. is 1 liter... I had a 400 cu engine that was 6.6 liters... The 360 is 6 liters.


sonnet 96 of 210 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/08/03                         DCCCXLIV

My muse is always with me, in my dreams
But I still wish I held her in my arms.
I want to protect her from all that harms,
And give her back the love that in eye gleams.
She offers more to heart than just the charms
I see in image: In her words she sends
The thoughts within my heart. This vision lends
Hope to desire, to silence life's alarms.
Can I give muse enough, when her smile bends
My soul towards the light? She is the spring
That feeds pool of my emotions, to bring
Desires to page: For her, broken heart mends.
All that I need is smile, to bring me peace:
I do not think dreams of my muse will cease.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 01:10 PM

OK, bowing to popular demand ( Well, no-one stopped me...) here is another sonnet to tide you over the next few days...


sonnet 97 of 210 to my muse...


Sonnet 28/08/03                         DCCCXLV

Good night, dear muse: I pray your dreams provide
Reason to smile, and rest from weary day.
In sleep I seek to from my worries hide,
And reach to one who might my fears allay.
I envy others, that to muse are near:
Do they realize the value of your glance?
Can they see, in your eyes, that ghost of tear
That haunts me, and gives my regrets a chance?
I wish I might hold you, that fears would flee
From dream, and restless mind. I need the touch
Of skin and lips and hair, to make heart see
How real desire can be: Is that so much?
I cannot find the hope I seek in sleep:
Yet I would dream of you forever keep.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 03:05 PM

hmmm... still no postings... another sonnet, perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 05:02 PM

LH,
Your comments on the following are sincerely solicited.





Sonnet 04/01/05                        CMLXVIII

In every thread someone has to be last,
Though we may trade places in patterned dance.
Each one may lead, then follow: Thoughts are cast
On screen to with all others take their chance.
Come join the waltz of thousand partners: Share
Some moments with a varied crowd, or learn
Of osprey nest, or Bob. Each of us care
Enough that we to this mad dance return.
Each of us add to tune, and join in chords
That sweep across our posts: We fill the time
With what investment each of us affords.
It is just journey that gives cause to climb.
As we give, so shall each some gift receive,
And only for those gone shall we yet grieve.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 08:46 PM

Nice sonnet, BB. Much nicer than the bit of doggerel I typed way back when. BTW, has Ellenpoly deserted us?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 07:05 AM

BB I've gone metric over the years and was prepared to correct my mental lapse. It was still a great car and my memories are intact even if my automotive details are sketchy.

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 07:06 AM

the Cat as muse! whoduthunkit?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 06:52 PM

refresh...

Gee, I take a few days off, and the thread sinks out of sight...

I don't like the sound of this...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 10:24 PM

sonnet 98 of 212 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/09/03                         DCCCXLVI

My muse is far too beautiful for words
To tell how much I want her in my arms.
Yet, words are all I have, to send: As birds,
They fly, but cannot tell power of charms.
She is reason to dream, and, with her look,
She melts my heart, and seizes all of soul.
How can I chain desire into a book
And hope this pittance will earn me my goal?
More than just muse, she is the one desired
By heart, and mind, and soul. I ache, to dream,
But cannot my dreams shun: She has inspired
All of the future, and what visions seem.
I see in her far more than I can say:
How can I know this love, and distant stay?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 06:49 PM

sonnet 99 of 212...



Sonnet 09/09/03                         DCCCXLVII Rev B

A bright September day, and my heart dwells
Upon my muse: In dream I hold her near,
But I am still alone. I dare not steer
My hopes upon the path of which verse tells.
This dryad nurtures love: Her eyes cast spells
On heart and soul. I cannot dreams ignore,
Yet dare not desires for passion explore:
I could not risk all that from my dream wells.
I find in thought of muse I win heart's ease,
Though she excites me: I've found true desire,
But know not how to show how much I care.
I do not know if these words will muse please,
For I am not yet brave. Will she now tire
Of verses that but longings for her share?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 06:51 PM

Dream on, you sorry petunia-heads! At any moment I will compose an epic poem about Shatner that will render the rest of this thread...superfluous!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jan 05 - 07:01 PM

epic poem about Shatner? THAT is superfluous!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 04:07 PM

my absence was enforced by the absence of the Cat from the aether.

you didn't really think I was giving up did you?

Shatner's epic prose all by himself.   KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jan 05 - 09:53 PM

sonnet 100 or 212 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/09/03                         DCCCXLVIII

Shall I tell of a muse of such sweet charm
That angels follow her, and hope to learn
The finer points of heaven? My dreams harm
Noone, save themselves, that they for her burn.
Shall I write of desire, for one more dear
To me than my own soul? My muse is one
I cannot keep from wanting to be near:
Yet I have not the right to hold her won.
Shall I dream of her eyes and smile, and seek
To find the words to let her know I care?
One kiss would show more than the lines I speak,
But should I hope thus to my passions share?
She is my dryad: For her, desires grow
To fill my heart. How can I her worth show?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 Jan 05 - 05:51 PM

i just can't seem to let this go!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:25 PM

Sonnet 101 of 212 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/09/03                                DCCCL                

I ask not for a promise, but your smile
To lend some pleasure to a dreary night.
Can I ask that you write of dreams, to light
This lonely dark, if only for a while?
I ask not for your soul, but that you share
Some time to tell how you have been. I seek
To learn what part of passions I might speak,
And not risk loss of one for whom I care.
I ask not for your kiss, though I desire
That, and far more. What you give is for you
To choose and offer. With but hopes in view,
I cannot keep from dreaming of eyes' fire.
I ask not that you change, but that you be
My light; My muse, that I in dreams might see.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:36 PM

i just got bored and fed up waiting for this thread to open
and now can't be arsed reading any of it.

bollocks to curiosity !!

and I know this wont be the last post
because some sanctimonious tosser
is bound to get irrate and complain about "Guests" posting here anonymously
and using 'bad language'.

well bumholes to you when you do!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,sanctamonius tosser
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 01:53 PM

Yeah fuck off ya stupid guests we dont want you. oh wait, i'm one so bye bye

(ignorant bastard)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 02:05 PM

Guest,

Welcome to the thread. I am certain we have discussed something of interest to you here, but you might have to look a little to find it.

Language is not "bad", it is just misunderstood....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Jan 05 - 04:37 PM

guests are ok as long as they don't overstay their welcome.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:06 PM

Sonnet 102 of 213 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/09/03                                DCCCLI

How can I give my muse her due, to show
What thought of her gives heart? Should I detail
What I have not the means to send? I know
She deserves far more than verse, without fail.
How can I tell her what she means to me,
Who sees her eyes as stars, and smile as light?
My efforts do not match my dreams, to free
Desires, that I might hope to hold her tight.
How will I find a path to heart's desire,
To fold dreams within arms? Might I with more
Than words caress, and more than words admire?
She is my muse: Thought of her is my core.
All I might offer I have sent: I pray
She knows how hard it is, to stay away.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Jan 05 - 01:25 AM

finally...the Cat is back!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jan 05 - 01:32 AM

He wrote a sonnet on it for his muse,
And didn't once express his right-wing views.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:52 AM

Sonnet 103 of 214 to my muse - NONE of them political.


Sonnet 29/09/03                                DCCCLII                

I hear in silence far more than I should,
The echoes of my fears. Can dreams ignore
That I am of muse reft? Word from her would
Be sweet, and harvest of my hopes restore.
I see in darkness little of the sky,
With clouds and concern hiding view. I wait,
For dawn and day, and hope that dreams can try
To show my heart what vision might relate.
I taste the longing of desires, but know
Soft lips are beyond reach. The salt of tears
Flavors my dreams: Yet, should I these dreams throw
Aside, when in them some of hope appears?
Should I allow sense to be my heart's guide,
When I can't even my own mind decide?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 07:23 AM

I really thought someone had succeeded in being last and the thread had disappeared! Nice to see it back again.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 07:28 AM

something in excess of 111 posts more, at a minimum.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 07:56 AM

But, since Guest brings it up, I guess I will post the political ones here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:06 AM

both of them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:08 AM

( that is , 2 out of 971 sonnets...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:09 AM

far too many, I know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:39 AM

Sonnet 17/02/03                        DCCLXXXVII

If blood be price of empire, what's the cost
To stand aside, and let tyrants hold sway?
What moral ground remains, if we have lost
The will to stand firm and "No further!" say?
Can we ignore this danger to our lives,
Or risk our children's future? Is the threat
Of promised pain of no concern? Hate strives
To stop us: Will we all of past forget?
Do we hide from our duty, with the fear
That there might be a price to what is right?
We know what must be done: It may appear
That we can wait, but should we withhold might?
All evil needs to triumph is for good
To turn away and not do what it should.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 05:16 PM

Is that someone's idea of right wing views?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 05:22 PM

I guess.

I have had to give up trying to understand those people who have decided what I think for me, because of the labels that they have given.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 11:05 PM

Sonnet 104 of 214 to my muse...



Sonnet 07/10/03                                DCCCLIII                

A cool day, and chill night, to spend alone,
With only dreams to ease the cold. I think
Of you, and spring: I would from your lips drink
The taste of April. Have my visions shown
My heart the future? Can I hope to own
The chance to show how much I care for you?
For now, I have but words to share; Too few
To show dreams, but enough to Fate bemoan.
I'd wrap you in my arms, within a quilt,
To keep you warm, and safe. I'd hold you tight
And share as much of dreams as you allow.
I offer heart , and all my visions, built
Of desire, and thought of dear eyes. This night,
Please know I seek that you are happy, now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 09:38 AM

Trafalgar.[Raglafart backwards]
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Frinkle
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 07:48 PM

woss all this about then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 10:11 PM

why does everything have to be about something for heaven's sake?
can't there be beauty for beauty's sake?
music for the sound of it?
jumping for joy?
jam for toast?

sheesh
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 10:49 PM

42,

One has to know the political viewpoint of the individual who is presenting anything, in order to judge whether it is true Art, or just propaganda....

(note this is a sarcastic message...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 01:32 AM

sonnet 105 of 214 to my muse...



Sonnet 09/10/03                                DCCCLIV                

To be near to my muse would warm my heart,
No matter what the weather. In her eyes
I find the spring, and in her words I start
To see the light of summer. My verse tries
To tell her what hopes mean, but mere words fail
To show desire. Within her soul, she sings,
And echoes reach to heart: My own dreams pale
Beside those of sweet muse that vision brings.
I long to share the joy I find in thought
Of one far distant, but near in my mind.
She gives heart hope that some of passions sought
Might yet be found, and I might her dreams find.
I cannot touch her now, nor taste soft skin;
But in my dreams I might her smile yet win.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 06:50 AM

thanks for the warning! I received very high marks in Sarcasm 101 and, in addition, my Irony 207 went well. Mind you, I did flunk the final exam on Monty Python.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 06:55 AM

Ah, but not all readers of this thread have had the advantage of a real education... Or so it seems, at times.

I once put a letter to the editor titled " A Modest Proposal" ( at college, about a mandatory Physics fee [ to go along with the existing athletic fee.]) I was severely criticised by a number of people, most of them English majors....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 06:51 AM

woo hoo! won the war of 1812!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Victor Meldrew
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:49 PM

What in the name of sanity!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 06:59 PM

sanity? Where??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 07:45 PM

sonnet 106 of 215 to my muse...



Sonnet 14/10/03                                DCCCLV                

I do not ask that you fulfill my dreams,
But that you live your own: I want your smile
Far more than I can say. My hope now seems
To be to see you happy. Are dreams trial,
To test my own resolve? I find you are
Kind, generous, and beautiful, yet know
I should not let desire this vision mar.
Still, I shall dream, and hope I might love show.
I do not ask that you give heart, nor send
More of your dreams than you might wish. I've found
Your eyes and smile enough to my dream fill.
You are sweet inspiration, muse, a blend
Of angel and my dreams. My heart is bound
By thought of your eyes' glance. Do what you will.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,HumphreyHumphrey
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 08:23 AM

Bearded bruce has spoilt this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 09:19 AM

HH
BB has BEEN this thread...damn his eyes!
I want to be last! (inset pout here)
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 07:33 PM

HH,

Pray tell why? Have I kept anyone else from posting?


Care to make a contribution to this dance of wits?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 07:45 PM

sonnet 107 of 215 to my muse...


Sonnet 27/10/03                           DCCCLVII

Might muse come to my arms, or give a kiss
That I might know that this vision is real?
Should I dream of her eyes, or lips, but miss
Her warmth? Might I touch face, to her smile feel?
She holds my heart: Would that I held her near.
How can my dreams offer so much, and yet
Leave me with those few words to make hopes clear?
All I might dream does not my fate offset.
I cannot cease to care: Muse remains more
Than one to be desired, or to pursue.
Her words reach to my heart, and claim the core
Of self: They offer to soul what is true.
She is true muse: I need not her lips see
To know that smile gives all of love to me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 08:55 PM

42,

My muse remains first, in my eyes, but you are far from last...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 12:41 AM

That's very sweet BB. Keep those sonnets coming.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 05 - 07:21 PM

sonnet 108 of 215 to my muse...


Sonnet 05/11/03                         DCCCLVIII

Good night, sweet muse. May you dream of the dawn
When love and light and laughter greet your smile.
May stars gather above, as heart is drawn
To seek for love, and of these dreams make trial.
Rest well, and long: Awake to a new day
Where all is as should be, and you enjoy
The love that you deserve. Heart shows the way
To bright tomorrow: Let sleep fears destroy.

May the Lord bless and keep you; May He make
His countenance to shine on you, and be
Gracious unto you; And may the Lord give
Heart peace: If not for love, then for the sake
Of one that for your happiness gives plea.
You are the light that lets my passions live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,bought and paid for
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 02:04 AM

Last, but not leased...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jan 05 - 10:04 AM

109 of 216 sonnets to my muse...


Sonnet 07/11/03                         DCCCLIX

I wait, with pen in hand, for dreams to show
How I might my muse please: She knows I care,
But can word win her smile? Might longing grow
One perfect verse that I might with her share?
I chase after my dreams, to visions find:
Eyes cannot view desire, nor soul, that lends
This light I see, but I hold in my mind
The focus to which all of my hope bends.
I pray for her, and heart; and for the means
To tell what I find in her eyes. I try
To show concern, but find that my hope leans
Toward desires: I should not for dreams cry.
All I can do is my own feelings tell,
And beg muse not to free me from this spell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 12:22 AM

enchanting!
released.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jan 05 - 12:38 AM

so BB. Here's one for you to finish.

I cannot rest, though slumber teases eyes
long opened by the rush of daylight's care
to close and Muse, untroubled by the moon,
bright mistress of the dark and rushing air,
waits, patient, gossamer. With deft fingers
gather up puckered threads of memories
too sweet to forget, yet fragile at the last.
My Muse,

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 01:32 PM

hmmm... have to work on it- rhyme is off...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 04:46 PM

feel free!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:59 PM

Sonnet 110 of 216 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/11/03                           DCCCLX

Does dream offer enough to fill my need,
Or ease the ache I hold? I should not seek
To win desires: Yet, I must passions speak.
I ask not for your love, but I will plead
For smile and friendship: Is my longing greed
For what cannot be mine? Should I not try
To place my heart within my words, nor sigh
To know my muse will only my words read?
I do not blame you for my hopes, nor claim
More than these dreams, that your sweet smiles inspire:
You do not tease, but turn my thoughts to light.
I know I want far more, but can you blame
One who reaches for stars? I would be liar
To say I'd not wish to hold through the night.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: tog
Date: 27 Jan 05 - 04:32 PM

How do you stop a thread like this?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 27 Jan 05 - 05:47 PM

You don't.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jan 05 - 07:57 PM

42

Might free object?



sonnet 111 of 216 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/11/03                                    DCCCLXI

I long to hold you in my arms, and feel
My lips touching your skin. Yet, should I speak
About desires, without learning how real
These dreams might be, and if you for touch seek?
I long to look into your eyes, and find
A view of heaven: Might I see a glow
To light my dreams, and give unto my mind
What of my angel I can hope to know?
I long to share your dreams, and know the source
Of what muse offers me. Dare I inquire
Of vision you might see, or think to force
My hopes upon one who my dreams inspire?
All I can find, in dream and hope and arms,
Is ghost of future chance to know your charms.



Ah well, off tomorrow to the beach for my 100th ( base seven) birthday.



May you dream of heart's desires, and wake to a bright dawn.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:53 AM

time for one more...

Sonnet 112 of 216 to my muse.


Sonnet 27/11/03                         DCCCLXII

My muse's thoughts kiss me awake, and rest
Upon my dreams at night. I feel their touch
With dawn, and day, and dusk. I have been blessed
By smile and eyes: I am thankful for much.
My dreams of her give reason to do more
Than plodding toil: I seek a higher goal.
Vision of her fills heart, and reaches core
Of self as if I were seeing my soul.
My hopes for future color dreams, but mind
Knows what is dream, or real. I'll not expect
To hold a dream, but should hopes be confined?
Might I vision of heart's desire select?
Perhaps dreams may not be: Yet, can I live
Without some hope that I might my love give?




See you all in February...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 10:07 AM

oops.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 07:36 AM

BB...so I hear it's your birthday...well, in fact, was your birthday if we want to be pedantic and picky and, therefore, to be completely redundant,(and maintain the final post on this thread) I offer you felicitations on being a perfect square.

Don't worry, it only lasts one year and then you can go back to being normal...and fifty isn't so bad really.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 07:13 PM

Hardly perfect...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 08:14 PM

sonnet 113 of 217 to my muse...

Sonnet 27/11/03                         DCCCLXII

My muse's thoughts kiss me awake, and rest
Upon my dreams at night. I feel their touch
With dawn, and day, and dusk. I have been blessed
By smile and eyes: I am thankful for much.
My dreams of her give reason to do more
Than plodding toil: I seek a higher goal.
Vision of her fills heart, and reaches core
Of self as if I were seeing my soul.
My hopes for future color dreams, but mind
Knows what is dream, or real. I'll not expect
To hold a dream, but should hopes be confined?
Might I vision of heart's desire select?
Perhaps dreams may not be: Yet, can I live
Without some hope that I might my love give?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 09:18 PM

ok, so no-one is actually reading this...

Here is the real sonnet 113 of 217, not a repeat of 112...



Sonnet 03/12/03                               DCCCLXIII

What future do I seek, when I desire
To hold this muse, and give her my concern?
Should I reach out to one that dreams inspire,
Or not offer what she might not return?
I question my intent: I am a fool
For smile, and token of affection. All
I want is hope: Yet dream does not heart rule,
Nor can I more than my own dreams recall.
How can I ask for more? My nights she fills
With visions, and her words reach to my heart.
Shall I ignore that dreams are as hope wills,
But miles and years serve to keep us apart?
I know hopes make no sense, but I hold muse
As heart's desire: I cannot dreams refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 09:42 PM

and here is today's- 114 of 217...


Sonnet 03/12/03                           DCCCLXIV

A chill wind and dark clouds above feed fears
I cannot change my fate. Shall I now weep,
That soul is tired? What value have my tears,
That sorrow might gain more than my hopes keep?
Thought of you offers joy, but can I bear
To dream, knowing you deserve something real?
Words are poor gift, to prove to you I care,
When you give vision life, and my hopes heal.
I have no way to hold you, nor to make
You tea, to warm your lips. What can I send
To keep you from the cold? Can desires take
The place of touch, to share what passions lend?
You are my muse, and give to me my art:
All I can offer in return is heart.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 09:58 PM

And then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 10:05 PM

you want tomorrow's?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 12:26 AM

I can wait. I'm eating a green grape. Delicious!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 12:28 AM

but how does the grape feel about it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Davetnova(backdoor)
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 09:49 AM

Are we there yet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 04:14 PM

are we where yet?

not here for sure!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:40 AM

where's my towel?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Layah
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:39 AM

I know where my towel is.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 04:46 PM

...and?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Layah
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 04:50 PM

Well wouldn't that make me a hoopy frood? While your just some person who doesn't know where his towel is.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 10:22 PM

sonnet 115 of 218 to my muse...


Sonnet 09/12/03                         DCCCLXV

Bright moon, shine down upon my muse and light
Her dreams, to show desires. Give her the chance
To see the hoped-for future, and hold sight
Of what she wants to be: Let her heart dance.
You brighten sky as muse brightens my soul,
With silver glow: You both fill night. I try
To hold you tight, but cannot skies control.
Only dreams reach the distance seen in eye.
Bright moon, give my muse peace and joy, and rest:
Let seasons pass, and cause for smile return
To reborn world. Cold nights just serve to tes
If one can from far crueler winters learn.
I wake, and you are gone: Yet, I can trust
You will remain long after I am dust.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 06:45 PM

Sonnet 116 of 218 to my muse...


Sonnet 11/12/03                           DCCCLXVI

Tied to my muse with threads of dream that wind
Around my soul and tie desires, I try
To know what would smile win, or caring bind
Into her words: Should I my hopes deny?
She knows her power: She need only say,
And I must try. I want to please, yet know
I cannot be all I might wish, nor stray
Past bounds that leave but verse to my dreams show.
Though she is beautiful, it is not curves
Nor smile, nor even eyes that have heart bound:
Within her I find spirit that deserves
All I might send: I have my true muse found.
How can I keep from loving such a maid?
She gives far more to heart than lines have paid.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 11:44 PM

Sonnet 117 of 218 to my muse



Sonnet 16/12/03                      DCCCLXVII

Might I touch muse's soul with words, or brush
Her dreams with my desire? I am too cold
To battle snow, but in this moonlit hush
I find dreams give me reason to be bold.
Might I give gift of beauty, to compare
To distant echo of her smile? I know
I have not means to send what I might dare
To think would worth to now and future show.
Might I seek for some token that could earn
A smile or caring glance? I would give all
To make dreams real: My soul, to desires turn
To memory; My heart, to her heart call.
I see within my muse far more than sight
Reveals: Is it spirit that shines so bright?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 06:51 PM

Sonnet 118 of 218 to my muse...


Sonnet 18/12/03                        DCCCLXVIII

Rebecca, muse, I give my love, to lift
The corners of your lips. You need not fear
That I would think to send uncalled-for gift:
I must trust words to make my longings clear.
Sweet dryad, you need only give what time
You have to spare: I know how few the hours
That you may call your own. But, should my rhyme
Not give you smile, perhaps I will send flowers.
Dear one, all I need is to know you spend
Some effort on yourself: You deserve more
Than unreturned concern. Should all depend
Upon your sacrifice to troubles cure?
You are within my dreams forever: All
I send cannot more than these dreams recall.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 06:59 PM

so now I have to put up with some froot loop just so I can be last on this thread. Thank heaven for BB's sonnets.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:07 PM

Are they mine, or my muse's? Is something inspired the property of the maker, or of the inspiration?

Does King James get credit for the bible ( bearing his name) or does God?

We need more discussion here... MOAB is getting ahead of us...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:19 PM

"Is something inspired the property of the maker, or of the inspiration? "

BB

I'm not sure it's the concept of 'property' that is what's ripe for debate but, rather, the 'responsibility' ...I don't own the birds that flock to my feeder for example but have accepted the fact that, once I opened the cafeteria, I am committed to continue to feed them through the winter.

Your Muse may have inspired the verses but you craft and post them. (surely not a necessity but always a pleasure)

?
Jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:36 PM

So, James was "responsible" for the bible()?

bb

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Layah
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:48 PM

There is a type of translation that just something else translated. To whatever extent King James did that with the Bible, he is not responsible for it. There is also a lot of judgement that has to go into translation, and also King James didn't really translate everything so literaly, so in some sense you can say the King James Bible is inspired by the "real" Bible. In which case King James is responsible for his version of the Bible.
So in that manner I would say that BB owns his sonnets if they were merely inspired by his muse. If his muse was actually dictating and he was just translating thats a different matter.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:55 PM

But who can tell, if it is a voice I hear in the "quiet places" in my mind? Direct dictation or subconcious? And is there really a difference? Were the Old Testament prophets just hearing their subconcious voices?

bb

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Layah
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:58 PM

Do you mean to imply that your subconscious is a different entity than you? Can you own property, and seperately from that your subconscious can also own property? It's gonna be pretty hard to prove that the person who signed that contract was not actually you, but your subconscious

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:05 PM

For FLIP's SAKE! I have tried to, like, read this flippin' thread...some of it, eh? Beardied Bruce you are a flippin' retread and a major wimp! Get over it and get laid, man! You will never get girls by writin' them stupid poems. Never. Trust me on this, eh? I tried it once and it don't work.

You want poetry? Lsiten to this:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
My dog stinks
And so do you!

That's poetry.

Give it up, man. Get a day job. That's my advice, eh?

- BDiBR

p.s. Them voices you hear are probalbly yer momma callin' you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:23 PM

BDiBR

Tried it once?! Hah!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:39 PM

BDiBR,

You speak of what you do not know.

bb

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:45 PM

But since you so greatly appreciate my verse, here is some more...


Ballad (39)

Far more than questions fill my mind,
When with my muse I speak:
To her sweet charms I am not blind:
Only resolve is weak.

How can I tell her all I seek,
When she is beyond touch?
How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?

Perhaps I care too much, to think
I might her tears remove.
Yet am I fool, to our dreams link
That she might hopes approve?

I do not want to make concern
An act in verse's play:
I need to show that I would earn
All of love, and friend stay.

Yet, can I be more than a fool,
To ask without the chance
To know if she might think me cruel
To try to win romance?

I cannot help but feel desire
Though cannot taste her lips.
Her words, and dreams burn soul like fire,
And passion my heart strips.

03 Nov 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 08:50 PM

Layah,

"Do you mean to imply that your subconscious is a different entity than you? "

No, more that I do not know if the voice I hear ( in the "quiet place" of my mind ) is internal or external.

bb

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 09:41 PM

BDiBR,

I do have a day job- ( actually, a night job...) Even as I type, the spacecraft I control are going over your head. Are you SURE you want to give me your bad advice?

bb

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 09:45 PM

1867- the American Civil War (aka the War between the States) is over, and a period of national reconciliation starts (Ha!)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 06:11 PM

If that was the poetry you tried to get laid with then no wonder you failed miserably.

And are you sure the voices were of his mamma calling? Can you prove that?

Oh and another thing BB's sonnets, they are not poems. Poetry is what they are but they have a proper name, sonnets or ballads. Are not stupid.

becca

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 04:39 PM

agree
no
no
are not?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 05:06 PM

thank you, dear muse...



Sonnet 119 of 218 to my muse


Sonnet 24/12/03                           DCCCLXIX

Shall I light candles, thinking of my muse,
And the bright warmth that her smile gives to dawn?
Or should I incense burn, to let smoke choose
The future path to which my heart is drawn?
Shall I in solemn ceremony chant
A listing of desires, to offer wine
To wash away my fears? My efforts can't
Give absolution for dream she'd be mine.
Shall I in isolation inward turn,
To look upon forever, and abyss?
Is faith the answer, that my heart will learn
If I might find true heaven in her kiss?
I offer prayer to muse, that she might send
Enough of heart's desire to my soul mend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 09:08 PM

sonnet 120 of 218 to my muse...


Sonnet 29/12/03                         DCCCLXX

I ask that coming year give me the chance
To muse embrace: I need light of her eyes,
Looking into my heart, to seal romance
To dreams of heart's desire, and make soul wise.
I ask that I find words to my hopes share
With one who gives my visions: She is more
Than distant dream, though I know that I care
Less for my heart than that I smile ensure.
I ask that she be happy, knowing joy:
What can I do, to ease her toils? I'd send
My dreams: Would they amuse, or just annoy?
And, truly, I cannot my heart just lend.
I ask, but cannot resolutions make:
To less than love would all desires break.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 01:29 AM

and for BDiBR, a sonnet not to my muse...



Sonnet 09/05/01                                DXLVIII

I read your words, and my dreams try to feel
The coolness of soft silk, and warmth of skin:
I would reach out, and with sweet kisses seal
My heart, that I might heart's desire win.
As soft, and subtle scented as a rose,
But without thorns, you pull me to your soul.
I touch, with lips and tongue, yet hope heart knows
How much these dreams can of my hopes take toll.
I reach to touch you, but words do not hold
The softness of your lips, nor feel of hair.
How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?
Would you, then, drive me crazy with desire
When distance and some years prevent love's fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 01:37 AM

BDiBR

Maybe you just need to work on what YOU say, instead of trying to tell everyone else what to say.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 04:55 PM

sonnet 121 of 218 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/01/04                        DCCCLXXI

I find, in muse's smile, all I might need
To face the coming year. The hope she gives
To heart and dream lets me my past verse read
With fewer tears, knowing that passion lives.
I find, in her soft words, a kindred soul
Who seeks to life improve. The future seems
Now waiting for her to make all hearts whole:
Yet, I can touch her only in my dreams.
I find, in dream of lips, only a part
Of what she means to me. She reaches in
To soul, to claim almost the whole of heart:
Shall I a remnant to my sleeve now pin?
She is one I must please: How can I tell
The hope for heart I find, under her spell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 09:40 PM

Still working on the next one I take it :)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 07:26 AM

BDiBR is still smarting from having to make the $12.00 bail and being assigned to pick up all the empties without keeping the money from the returns.

Pay him no heed!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,blackcatter
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 04:23 PM

hmmmmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 04:54 PM

damn and blast you blackcatter! scoundrel...blackguard...
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 06:24 PM

Sonnet 122 of 221 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/01/04                        DCCCLXXII

Birds sing upon her birthday, though the snow
Lays bright and cold. Sun does not warm the air,
But clouds are gone, and I see clearly where
Sharp branches pierce the sky, to future show.
Winter is waiting, and a rest, I know,
Before the rush of spring. Though all is bare,
There is reason for hope: These long nights share
A dream, that more than just concern might grow.
I long to be one who might her smile earn,
And keep her warm and safe. Time does not lend
The chance to soft lips touch, but heart will yearn
For happiness, that she might sweet dreams send.
I cannot alter year, to seasons turn,
But I would winter's melancholy end.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 07:18 PM

Welcome back, Blackcatter!

Now, if Ellenpoly will only return to our thread...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 02:02 AM

sonnet 123 of 221 to my muse...


Sonnet 19/01/04                   DCCCLXXIII

In time, I shall forget all I once knew,
And rest in silence underneath the earth.
I shall not be remembered for the few
Deeds I endeavor: One life has small worth.
In time, all I have gathered will be lost,
Scattered or thrown away. I cannot change
The flow of time, but hope, having paid cost,
That dreams might be enough to verse arrange.
In time, all I will leave will be desire,
Laid down upon the page, and telling of
My dreams of one who more than hopes inspire:
How can I not tell all of time my love?
In time, heart will not matter, but until
I am no more, I will night with dreams fill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 08:22 PM

Well, perhaps we should take up a collection for BDiBR and pay his bail- though it seems like he is happier where he is.

Of course, he seems to have forgotten all about Feral Cheryl.....

This could be interesting.



"I am still in jail. The food keeps gettin' better. We got pork chops tonight. Officer Dana was real pleased to get the valentine I give her yesterday. She turned all red and tried to, like, act tough about it, but I know she was happy. Officer Dana is a real woman and a half...but I mean, with a good figure, eh? Like a figure skater. I wanta marry her when I get out, but I know that I am gonna have ta clean up my act some. I figure that maybe I should start washin' my socks once in a while and stuff like that."


He never offered to clean up his act, before. Seems serious.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 11:43 PM

sonnet 124 of 221 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/01/04                     DCCCLXXIV

Only desire keeps me looking at time
As more than toil and trial. It is my dreams
That feed the future, and my hopes that climb
Toward the heavens. All of past now seems
To fall away, leaving heart free to care:
Yet, is there chance to hold to hope, when years
Cannot just be ignored? How can I share
These dreams, and not recall to mind my fears?
Only the thought of muse gives hope, for more
Than sleep and labor. She gives dreams the light
To see beyond bare plodding life, to core
Of soul: The thought of her keeps future bright.
I shall keep dreaming, though hope may be vain:
Regrets are nothing to what I might gain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 05:18 PM

serious? seriously twisted perhaps!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 08:47 AM

1885 Potato Famine in Ireland

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 04:30 PM

1886!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 09:13 PM

sonnet 125 of 223 to my muse...


Sonnet 02/02/04                         DCCCLXXV

Sweet vision of all that my heart desires,
You fill my dreams. How can I hope to show
What your smile means, or let the whole world know
How much I value you, that verse inspires?
You give reason for future hope, and send
The soul of spring to heart. What might I say
That would my longings show? Can my lines sway
My fate, that I might feelings to page lend?
The thought of you lends light to dawn, to find
The destination of my dreams. I pray
For smile, and laughter: You are muse, to play
Upon my soul; To give hopes or keep blind.
My dearest muse, what might I send, to tell
How much my heart wants to be under spell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:19 AM

sonnet 126 of 224 to my muse...


Sonnet 12/02/04                     DCCCLXXVI

I see the rose's blush upon my muse
And Springtime sun within her eyes. I try
To tell how much she means, but can I choose
The words to bring her smile when my dreams cry?
I see the curve of tulip in her cheeks,
And know her skin is soft as unfurled flower.
I can only imagine song she speaks
When I dream of my muse, in winter's hour.
I see my dream, and wonder if I dare
To let hope grow, and love allow to bloom.
Should I risk what I have, to ask to share
More than my verse; To risk my own heart's doom?
I hold to image of her, to defend
My dreams, and heart, from this cold winter's end.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 10:24 AM

BB
blooming marvellous!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 07:03 PM

42,

I thank you.

My muse thanks you.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:07 PM

sonnet 127 of 224 to my muse...


Sonnet 12/02/04                        DCCCLXXVII

I open arms to muse, and hold her tight
Within a dream of heart's desire. I feel
Her warmth, and know even one kiss would seal
My fate: She is to all my hopes the light
That shows all beauty, and gives heart the sight
Of future, and forever. Is hope real,
That I might have her love? Or does hope steal
From dream of dream, to wonder without right?
Should I think that imagined passions give
More than reflection of my needs? Does chill
And cloudy night lead to a change of fate?
I dare not dream that more than my dreams live
Without some word to alter all, and fill
My heart with hope that I might her dreams sate.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:51 AM

sonnet 128 of 224 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/02/04                         DCCCLXXVIII

I build my muse a castle, stone by stone,
Each line another facet of desire.
Yet words are monument to dream alone:
The thought of her smile all of hopes inspire.
I send my muse my hopes, to share a night
That moon and muse illuminate, or win
A kiss and smile: She is enough of light
To bring dawn to my heart, and spring begin.
I offer muse my heart, but know I give
Nothing she does not have. What can I share
To winter's chill remove? Should I dreams live,
To try to show my muse how much I care?
She is my truth, my light: What can I say
To tell how she remains in mind, today?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:52 AM

Always a pleasure to read them. I put 222-224 up. =)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 01:14 AM

no sonnet for the day, such a pity.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 02:00 AM

sonnet 129 of 225 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/02/04                            DCCCLXXIX

Time waits for no one, but with each bright dawn
Lends one more day to spend looking for love.
How can I not dream of you, or be drawn
To think of you and send a prayer above?
You are my heart's desire, a muse to hold
The darkness from my soul. You give me all
I need, to defeat fears, and keep me bold
Enough to for new dreams of future call.
All that I seek I see: In you I find
The sum of soul and beauty. Might I share
This happiness, though only within mind:
Do I have chance to all of my dreams bare?
Far more than vision, you are what is real
To heart: How can I less than longing feel?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 11:56 AM

I was first in this thread, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:28 PM

It doesn't matter if one was first.

Bruce, sonnet 225 was lovely, wonderful talent you do have as you can continue writing them. As 129 was just as lovely.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:23 AM

of course it matters!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:23 AM

just not to most people!

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:24 AM

you know what I mean?

being last is what really counts!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,sandra
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 02:10 PM

Hello people long time no text, just to let you know that i do keep a check on this thread, but being a guest, i don't like to tread on toes too often, so to the icons of this thread, in particular, 42, Beardedbruce, and that The legend that is LITTLEHAWK, I say hi, keep up the fight, thanks for letting me into slot 1901, and see yo again before the end!
I visit this thread to read sonnetts, and reflect on good times with my dearly beloved, departed friend veronica. we had good times here.
Keep up the good work people!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:28 PM

sandra,

You are welcome here, even as GUEST. No complaints as long as you contribute ( or comment) as opposed to telling others NOT to.


Lots more sonnets to post...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:48 PM

sonnet 130 of 225 to my muse...



Sonnet 20/02/04                            DCCCLXXX

Shall I send you a summer's song, to warm
This winter dark with sound of longer day?
Can I weave spell to dull the icy storm
That weighs down heart, and keeps sweet hopes at bay?
I have only a vision, now, to hold
Against the bitter night: Dear muse, to give
The purpose for my dreams. Might dream enfold
Far more than sleep, to give reason to live?
Without you, I wait for the dawn to bring
Another cold uncaring day. I spend
The time looking for joy, but find the sting
Of life uncertain to but sadness lend.
Yet, I dream of you, and of your soft smile,
And know spring will arrive, after a while.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:18 AM

sonnets, seeking eyes,
fall, sweet as honeyed wine
   onto forlorn pages.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:23 AM

Very nice!


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:10 AM

sonnet 131 of 225 to my muse...



Sonnet 23/02/04                     DCCCLXXXI

Forgive my melancholy, and the tears
That cold and lonely nights now form. I try
To let dreams warm me, but I find that fears
Oft overtake desire: For hope I cry.
Forgive the shadows on my soul, that mask
The happiness I find in dream of you.
I cannot change the past, or memories ask
To not have been: Heart is to passions true.
Forgive presumption that you want my heart
To be placed at your feet, or that I hold
Some charm to ease your mind. Verse has not art
To send more than the thoughts that dreams have told.
I ask forgiveness, but I know I seek
Far more to hear the soft words you might speak.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:20 AM

melancholy
sighs in the morning gaze
soft, dappled blue

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:24 AM

meletonin
sighs in the mourning gauze
soft dopplered blue?


8-{E

sorry, it has been a long shift...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:32 PM

was that a doppler shift?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:33 PM

I guess it was just a doppler effect.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:29 PM

I cannot feel another's thoughts,
                        unless they're dopplered
                                down
                                        away from blue
                                                 from green
                                                 from yellow,
                                down
                                        to deeper,
                                            weaker lambdas.

                I only feel the longer wavelengths of emotion;
                        deep in the red,
                                where warmth leaks out of radiation,
                                        6220 angstroms,
                                        or so,
                                        and more.

                I see only what rushes away.




                                                        1/3/76

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:43 PM

sonnet 132 of 225 to my muse...



Sonnet 23/02/04                         DCCCLXXXII

My muse is blossom that grows without fail,
Though snow and ice keeps world from seeing flower.
She offers spring to dream, though outside hail
And bitter cold take place of April shower.
My muse is moonlight on a cloudy night,
A lamp to show dreams shelter, and the way
To warm and restful sleep. She gives me sight
Of hope, and heart's desire for which I pray.
My muse is balm to heal heart's hurts, and seal
Those open wounds that past has left to weep.
She shows reason that hope might let soul feel
That future will have spring, and dream to keep.
She is more precious than all I might own:
Yet all I hope is that she will dreams loan.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 12:06 AM

BB. You can borrow mine anytime!

just arrived home from a perfect eveining during which I opened for one of Canada's most revered songwriters - Willie P Bennett- and then had the opportunity to watch the master work his magic. The man IS a muse.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 12:02 PM

e-veining is not a new method of drug abuse...just a typo
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 11:34 AM

sonnet 133 of 225 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/02/04                     DCCCLXXXIII

Each day is perfect that I find my muse
To have a smile, and offer some of dream.
Though winter still, she can my heart confuse,
And make the ice just some new flower seem.
Dryad of desires, planting seeds that grow,
She nurtures hopes long dormant back to life.
Within her eyes, I see the stars, to show
Each blossom where to look. Her words are rife
With thought I want to seize: To hold her hand,
And understanding seek of one who cares.
I dare not ask, nor think I could demand
My hopes, yet might I beg that she kiss shares?
I have faint reason to be quite so bold,
But know my heart must have my feelings told.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 05:13 PM

42

IS a muse, or has his muse in his arms, dancing to a tune her presence brings?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Feb 05 - 09:46 PM

and just because I like it...


She walks in Beauty
                   George Gordon Byron, Lord Byron

SHE walks in beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes:
Thus mellow'd to that tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies.

One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impair'd the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er her face;
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling-place.

And on that cheek, and o'er that brow,
So soft, so calm, yet eloquent,
The smiles that win, the tints that glow,
But tell of days in goodness spent,
A mind at peace with all below,
A heart whose love is innocent!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 12:04 AM

sonnet 134 of 225 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/02/04                   DCCCLXXXIV

How can I ask my muse to give me all
That I would wish of her? I know her soul
Has more than love enough, but can dream call
For such sweet passion without paying toll?
Forgive me, that I let desires free
To chase after these dreams, and perhaps go
Where they may not be welcome. Would I be
A greater fool, though, to not my dreams show?
She has the power to all of light end,
And more, to offer heart's desire. She holds
My soul: She has the choice, to passions lend,
Or keep my heart in dream that hope enfolds.
How can I think of asking what is real?
Can any of my dreams future reveal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 06:37 AM

Both!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 07:47 PM

And from R. Frost,


If tired of trees I seek again mankind,
Well I know where to hie me - in the dawn,
To a slope where the cattle keep the lawn.
There amid lolling juniper reclined,
Myself unseen, I see in white defined
Far off the homes of men, and farther still,
The graves of men on an opposing hill,
Living or dead, whichever are to mind.

And if by noon I have too much of these,
I have but to turn on my arm, and lo,
The sun-burned hillside sets my face aglow,
My breathing shakes the bluet like a breeze,
I smell the earth, I smell the bruised plant,
I look into the crater of the ant.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 08:53 PM

how about

To A Friend Who Sent Me Some Roses


As late I rambled in the happy fields,
What time the sky-lark shakes the tremulous dew
From his lush clover covert;when anew
Adventurous knights take up their dinted shields:
I saw the sweetest flower wild nature yields,
A fresh-blown musk-rose; 'twas the first that threw
Its sweets upon the summer: graceful it grew
As is the wand that queen Titania wields.
And, as I feasted on its fragrancy,
I thought the garden-rose it far excell'd:
But when, O Wells! thy roses came to me
My sense with their deliciousness was spell'd:
Soft voices had they, that with tender plea
Whisper'd of peace, and truth, and friendliness unquell'd.



































John Keats

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 11:58 PM

sonnet 135 of 225 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/02/04                        DCCCLXXXV

Are you dryad, angel, muse, to be source
Of what my pen gleans from remembered dream?
What is the spell you hold? What is the force
That just the thought of you would heart redeem?
How can I less than love? I dare not break
From desire born of dream, nor seek to find
A reason I should not care so. You make
My vision whole, if only in my mind.
You are far more than I can see: You form
An echo in my soul, of your sweet eyes.
You are the quiet center, of the storm
That sweeps away my heart, yet my hopes rise.
All I have sought I find within your soul:
How can I not your happiness make goal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 12:03 AM

oops- my apologies. That last post was 2 minutes early....

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 12:56 AM

2 minutes early won't hurt you that much.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 07:00 AM

Whhaaaat the?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 07:03 AM

The ? is an interogative...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 07:07 AM

... But the 2 minutes is in refence to the time I posted.

I AM trying to limit the posting of sonnets to my muse to one per day, even if no-one else seems to be on much anyway.



It looks like I have a good chance to be the last one on......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 09:14 PM

sonnet 136 of 227 to my muse...



Sonnet 26/02/04                      DCCCLXXXVI

Where does my muse run off to? Does she flee,
Or chase after the spirits of the spring?
Can she winter drive out, and let there be
Another season, of new beginning ?
And might I follow flowers upon path,
Bright footprints left behind, to show the way
She spun her magic? In them I find math
To number joys, though I at distance stay.
Dare I dream to chase her? Does my heart need
To know more than it does? What do I seek,
In all my effort? I already read
Enough to know that soul to soul dreams speak.
I wait: If time would ever make her mine,
I must wait for my muse to give the sign.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:07 AM

sonnet 137 of 227 to my muse...


Sonnet 07/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVII

The roses blush, to find themselves outdone
By your sweet smile. How can they hope to show
Even a tithe of hope my dreams have won?
How can I roses worthy of muse grow?
Even my dreams fail to these feelings tell,
That you give cause for hope to want to live.
You send reason to look ahead, and spell
That heals my soul, to all of past forgive.
In dream I hold you, when I cannot reach
To touch, or keep you warm: Am I a fool,
To give my dreams such power? Will they teach
A heart that yearns for passion to stay cool?
I do not think dreams will desires rein in,
Yet I cannot think that to love is sin.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:12 AM

I can't believe this thread is still going!!

Lots of sonnets to catch up on....

I think I need a biiig drink.

;-D

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:22 AM

We have been awaiting your return...


sushi and smoked salmon all around.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bernard
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:27 AM

A tightrope walker fell to his death whilst experimenting with the new wireless technology...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:34 AM

they obviously forgot the ethernet....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:42 AM

btw, anyone out there need European ( 40 bit security) PCMCIA wireless cards? I got a base and three cards for the French- no use here in the US... Let me know.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 07:50 AM

So BB, Why doesn't your little signature thingy look the same when I try to copy and paste it?

Not much use talking to myself here but, if you think you have a chance to wrap this up, you've got another thinnnnnn comin!

jen
ps

I go now to sonnet surf.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:31 PM

what kind of board do you use, to sonnet surf?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:59 PM

42:

8-{E is what I get when I cut and paste,
8-{E is what I get when I type it in...


probably has to do with the script selection on your browser.



I don't WANT to be the only one here, I was just commenting on the scarcity of postings. I would prefer an extensive dialog, on multiple topics.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 07:01 PM

... a multilog?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 10:02 PM

back after midnight with another sonnet...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 01:34 AM

sonnet 138 of 227 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/03/04                     DCCCLXXXVIII

I drink tea with my muse, and try to learn
What wishes I might grant. How can I give
Her reasons to show smile, and spring return
To eyes, that all of winter dreams might live?
My dreams reach out, to hold her in these arms
Made stronger by her smile. She feeds my soul
With words of caring: Yet, if longing harms
The chance for love, heart never will be whole.
Heart does not ask for all of dream: I know
Not what she would desire. I shall not seek
More than she offers. Yet, my words might show
Some part of hope, and of my passions speak.
I spend the night with muse, trying to find
All I might know, that I can future bind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 01:39 AM

what is a white stone?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 01:51 AM

and what exactly was the story the Dormouse says?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 03:26 AM

"I mark this day with a white stone," begins the April 25th entry in Charles Dodgson's personal journal for the year 1856. The white stone as marker is an archaic tradition of the Roman poet Catullus, signifying a particularly remarkable or wonderful day (Stoffel, 38).




`Once upon a time there were three little sisters,' the Dormouse began in a great hurry; `and their names were Elsie, Lacie, and Tillie; and they lived at the bottom of a well--'

`What did they live on?' said Alice, who always took a great interest in questions of eating and drinking.

`They lived on treacle,' said the Dormouse, after thinking a minute or two.

`They couldn't have done that, you know,' Alice gently remarked; `they'd have been ill.'

`So they were,' said the Dormouse; `VERY ill.'

Alice tried to fancy to herself what such an extraordinary ways of living would be like, but it puzzled her too much, so she went on: `But why did they live at the bottom of a well?'


......
and then turned to the Dormouse, and repeated her question. `Why did they live at the bottom of a well?'

The Dormouse again took a minute or two to think about it, and then said, `It was a treacle-well.'

`There's no such thing!' Alice was beginning very angrily, but the Hatter and the March Hare went `Sh! sh!' and the Dormouse sulkily remarked, `If you can't be civil, you'd better finish the story for yourself.'

`No, please go on!' Alice said very humbly; `I won't interrupt again. I dare say there may be ONE.'

`One, indeed!' said the Dormouse indignantly. However, he consented to go on. `And so these three little sisters--they were learning to draw, you know--'

`What did they draw?' said Alice, quite forgetting her promise.

`Treacle,' said the Dormouse, without considering at all this time.

`I want a clean cup,' interrupted the Hatter: `let's all move one place on.'

He moved on as he spoke, and the Dormouse followed him: the March Hare moved into the Dormouse's place, and Alice rather unwillingly took the place of the March Hare. The Hatter was the only one who got any advantage from the change: and Alice was a good deal worse off than before, as the March Hare had just upset the milk-jug into his plate.

Alice did not wish to offend the Dormouse again, so she began very cautiously: `But I don't understand. Where did they draw the treacle from?'

`You can draw water out of a water-well,' said the Hatter; `so I should think you could draw treacle out of a treacle-well--eh, stupid?'

`But they were IN the well,' Alice said to the Dormouse, not choosing to notice this last remark.

`Of course they were', said the Dormouse; `--well in.'

This answer so confused poor Alice, that she let the Dormouse go on for some time without interrupting it.

`They were learning to draw,' the Dormouse went on, yawning and rubbing its eyes, for it was getting very sleepy; `and they drew all manner of things--everything that begins with an M--'

`Why with an M?' said Alice.

`Why not?' said the March Hare.

Alice was silent.

The Dormouse had closed its eyes by this time, and was going off into a doze; but, on being pinched by the Hatter, it woke up again with a little shriek, and went on: `--that begins with an M, such as mouse-traps, and the moon, and memory, and muchness-- you know you say things are "much of a muchness"--did you ever see such a thing as a drawing of a muchness?'

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 03:33 AM

Remembering

'This day' -- so once Catullus wrote --
'Whith a white stone I shall mark boldly',
And, till now I am glad, beholding
The avenue where, to lime-trees' note,
With an umbrella on the sand
White hands some words for me were pressing,
What -- I'll not tell. For you have guessed it;
And ready on the tongue, words stand.

Maxim Bahdanovich 1913 Óñïàì³í

"Äçåíü ãýòà, -- òàê ï³ñࢠÊàòóë, --
ß áåëûì êàìåíåì àäçíà÷ó."
Äàñþëü ÿ ðàä, êàë³ ïàáà÷ó
Àëåþ, äçå ïàä ë³ïࢠãóë
Ìíå ïàðàñîíêàì íà ïÿñêó
Øòîñü ðó÷ê³ ì³ëûÿ ï³ñàë³,
Øòî -- íå ñêàæó. Âû àäãàäàë³,
² ñëîâû ¢æî íà ÿçûêó.

Ì.Áàãäàíîâ³÷ 1913


The expression originates in Catullus' "Lapide candidiore diem notare," (Poem 68, line 148) which translates as "to mark with an especially white stone the (lucky) day." The English version was quite commonly used in Victorian times.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 06:17 PM

You know, people, if you are leaving it up to me to keep this thread going you are going to get a LOT more sonnets....

Perhaps we can have a few more topics to discuss?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 12:56 AM

sonnet 139 of 228 to my muse...



Sonnet 12/03/04                     DCCCLXXXIX

I kiss her fingers, and rub tired feet
Until the daily toil fades into rest.
I seek her smile: It would my day complete
That she might sleep in arms by her touch blessed.
I wish I could her dreams ensure, with all
The power of my heart: To see her sleep
With smile- My soul would to the heavens call,
In thanks for such sweet gift, that dream not weep.
She is far more than dream can know, but less
Than some of my desires: I would be liar
To say I would not wish for love. I guess
I'll be content with dreams, by her inspired.
To muse I give my heart, and all the dreams
That moonlight might allow to form hope's schemes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 02:22 AM

topics to discuss might be tricky to think up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 06:35 AM

BB,
I thought the whole point of this thread was to be as pointless as possible. Over the months you have struggled valiantly to give it purpose...rather like Oblio's seach for the Pointed Forest...while others kibbutzed and humphed.

Maybe you should just LET IT GO! so I can be last and we can go on to bigger and better things:serious discussions on US/Canadian trade embargoes; tomato vs tomahto; whether duct tape is the greatest invention of all time; what ever happened to the semihyphencolon; all the big stuff.
Until then, it's just you and me and those other pushy cats.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 01:50 PM

duct tape is like the Force-

It has a dark side, and a light side, and it hold the universe together.



I stated MY purpose here on 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM.




I do not think that this thread was to BE pointless, just that it had no fixed point.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Mar 05 - 07:55 AM

I guess I'll just scurry off and find out what that might be; May 5th you said; right after I shoo my kid off to Ecuador for a couple of weeks.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Torctgyd
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 07:55 AM

Can we not get this thread to scroll past the last post to the beginning again, that way it can become the "Everlasting Thread" and no one need be last. Surely that's what we need in the 21st centuary, let us all be equal in a grand cirlce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 09:02 PM

sonnet 140 of 228 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/03/04                     DCCCXC

Is winter over now, and does the earth
Awaken from cold slumber to become
A source of growth? I now await the birth
Of dreams to life: My hopes to dreams succumb.
Should I look for a change, in what I find
That stars and moonlight give me? Shall I seek
To hold for real what I hold in my mind,
Or think that dream might ever future speak?
How can I know what would her smile assure?
What should I tell of dreams, when I desire
A love no reason permits? She is more
Than friend, this muse that all of hopes inspire.
What might I do, to show how much hopes mean?
I have not words to hint of passions glean.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 09:06 PM

and just because one cannot have too many sonnets...


WHEN I have fears that I may cease to be   
Before my pen has glean'd my teeming brain,   
Before high piled books, in charact'ry,   
Hold like rich garners the full-ripen'd grain;   
When I behold, upon the night's starr'd face,          5
Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,   
And feel that I may never live to trace   
Their shadows, with the magic hand of chance;   
And when I feel, fair creature of an hour!   
That I shall never look upon thee more,                10
Never have relish in the faery power   
Of unreflecting love;—then on the shore   
Of the wide world I stand alone, and think,   
Till Love and Fame to nothingness do sink.



























J. Keats

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:42 AM

sonnet 141 of 228 to my muse...



Sonnet 15/03/04                     DCCCXCI

I wish I had the means to give you time
To dream of heart's desires, and let me know
How I might make you smile. How can I show
How much I care, that it is not just rhyme
That you have given me? You bring a light
When all is darkness- Dawn, to night of soul.
Yet, even in dreams I have not the goal
To seek what is not offered as a right.
I wish I held you near, to see your eyes
And know what I might say. You are my sun,
And moon, and stars: You form all of the skies
That offer future joy. Yet, have I won
Enough to ask for love? Silence replies
That dreams dare not out of my own mind run.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 06:54 AM

the winter in southern Ontario is certainly not over and the earth is not waking from its slumber anytime soon. Speed of dark would be about right.
Perfect sugaring-off weather though...and the pot of daffodils on my kitchen table give me a boost in the morning.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:19 AM

This is the first time I have posted to this thread. I am not reading the whole thing. I don't wanna.

so, can I be last?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Torctgyd
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:41 AM

sorry mate, you only get to be last if you read the whole damn thing!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:43 AM

Okay, just finished reading it. I especially liked the part about Mrs Biloxi's chickens.

Can I be last now?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 06:36 PM

Nope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 06:59 PM

Only 6 more days to the anniversary of this thread....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:50 PM

let's party!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:15 AM

sonnet 142 of 228 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/03/04                     DCCCXCII

How might muse give dreams reason to recall
What joy lies in a touch? How can hopes tell
Of my desire, when my words seem to fall
On snow? Will dreams alone make my heart well?

I wish her happiness, but is there chance
That I might share moonlight, and smile? I try
To have mind control heart, but soft romance
Is stronger than resolve, when passions cry.

I look at pictures of my muse, and dream
How sweet her lips may be, and just how soft
Those shoulders are to touch. Yet, do eyes gleam
For me or verse? Will hope hold me aloft?

Shall I admit how much I want concern,
When I've no hope that she will to me turn?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 09:53 AM

ToulouseCruise


"Okay, just finished reading it. I especially liked the part about Cchickens."


While chickens HAVE been mentioned, NONE of them were Mrs Biloxi's.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Mar 05 - 11:03 AM

never let 'em see you sweat BB!
j

see the poseurs have started a new thread? ...this one must be too literate

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:44 PM

sonnet 143 of 230 to my muse...


Sonnet 18/03/04                     DCCCXCIII

What good is mage who does not know his mind?
Can any good come of desires that fear
To be acted upon? Are my hopes blind,
To dwell on one so distant? Can dreams hear
Even the echo of her thoughts? I weep,
To think I have no purpose: Will I send
All of my heart, to find I cannot keep
Even my hopes alive? Is silence end?
It is not muse at fault, that I obsess
Over my dreams. She does not lead my heart
To think that I might change her life: Far less
Than smile would be enough to my dreams start.
Yet, I would not another muse desire:
She is the one to my passions inspire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 08:13 PM

"Love... twu love..."


From "The Princess Bride"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:38 AM

"Far less
Than smile would be enough to my dreams start"

Would a backward glance do?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:47 AM

I prefer forward glances...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:43 AM

How forward?

"Steamy scenes in jungle settings,
Close encounters; heavy pettings
Aching members longing for release.
Eyes that meet with sidelong glances;
scabbards longing for their lances.
A little lower darling, if you please...
a little lower darling, if you please..."

This chorus to one of my more crowd pleasing songs types up even less suggestively than it plays onstage. What was I thinking?!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:00 PM

sonnet 144 of 230 to my muse...




Sonnet 20/03/04                     DCCCXCIV

How can I think to hold my muse, when all
I have to offer are soft words? I know
She does not need my dreams, but tears would fall
To not tell of desire, and caring show.
How can I hope to see her smile, when eyes
Remain just distant stars? I cannot reach
To touch her lips, but heart dare not realize
That she does not sit near, to passions teach.
How can I dream of voice I've never heard,
Or fashion futures from her smile? She gives
Her lines of verse, but I need not a word
To form a vision that some of hope lives.
How can I not offer soul to my muse
Who gives heart chance to past depression lose?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:11 PM

42,

not a bad start... sounds like it needs more research, though...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:22 PM

Cinquain XIV

Coleen,
I wish to hold
My arms around you, and
Let your breasts be the pillow for
My soul.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:30 PM

my sonnet posted 10 Feb 05 - 01:29 AM is certainly snsual, if not overtly sexual.

I'm not sure this thread is ready for my one really sexual sonnet- written for a past muse by her request... and not typical of my work. sometimes, the subtle hint of desires is far more enticing than the graphic desciption of passion.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:38 PM

The previous post, of 08:30 PM 15 Mar is my considered opinion, and does not represent any attempt to inflict my world view upon any of the readers here, but to give a personal view of what I think.


on another topic...
Blackcatter onnce asked ( in this thread ) for change for a paradox....


would that be two doxies, or a bunch of semidox?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 03:39 AM

sonnet 145 of 230 to my muse...



Sonnet 21/03/04                     DCCCXCV

I ask you to forgive me for my greed
In wanting your attention. I would take
All you might give, and more. Season dreams wake,
And I find in my longing I would plead
For all of you: Yet, should I let my need
Consume all sense? I would rather you stay
As muse, and distant, than risk that you say
I am a bother, and not sonnets read.
What can I ask of you, that you'd reply
With words to feed my heart? How can I dare
To seek for passion, when I do not know
What you would want of me? How can I try
To give my heart, when you already care
For someone near? Should I my envy show?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 04:59 AM

I'm beginning to feel like I am talking to myself.......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 02:39 PM

I was out of town so I guess you were!

j

there is more to that song...very silly verses about becoming a romance novelist: some hot blues guitar & serious attitude.

lots of fun to perform!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:19 PM

depending on the time of day we are always talking to ourselves. In my neck of the woods school's out for March Break. I actually had the luxury of watching The Fellowship of the Rings for the first time. Sadly, alone. Sadly, for the movie, no Tom Bombadil! It's much better if you haven't read the trilogy religiously every year since puberty.
J

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 09:18 PM

sonnet 146 of 232 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/03/04                     DCCCXCVI

My muse returns, with spring within her eyes
To bring the blossoms, and new growth in heart.
She gives dreams reason to sing, and to prize
Each moment as chance that new hopes might start.
How shall I find words that might my mood share,
To show how much I need this hope? I seek
To reflect some of light, to show I care
For more than my desires: Dare my heart speak?
Her quiet glance shows all that I might want:
A friend, and muse, and love. What can heart add
To such a look? Can I find dreams to haunt
My soul, and let this lonely heart be glad?
She is still beyond reach, but might hearts touch,
To give my soul the chance to care too much?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 11:45 PM

I think that I shall never see
A poem as lovely as a tree.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 01:44 AM

sonnet 147 of 232 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCVII

I would not ever choose to cause you pain
Or have you think I do not care. I try
To be what you might need, that hope might gain
Another smile, or dreams to you might fly.
Might words be music to you, and my lines
Give pleasure, and a smile? Might I hope eyes
That give dreams look at me, and find some signs
Of what I feel, that I might dreams realize?
I cannot tire of caring, nor of dreams
That bring you to my arms: Yet, I desire
You find what you might need. My own soul seems
To balance upon what your dreams require.
Shall I be jealous that you have love found?
Can truest concern be by desires bound?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 08:00 AM

Maybe in my next life I'll be able to share the sentiments of the author. Not possible in this one I'm afraid.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 06:09 PM

In True Love, the happiness of the object of love is paramont. In the ideal case, both parties will feel this way about the other.


Most love is less than ideal. Should that mena we should not seek for love at all?






"As you wish."

    The Princess Bride

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 09:58 PM

actually, Wesley in the Princess Bride.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 01:29 AM

sonnet 148 of 232 to my muse.....




Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCVIII

I miss my muse, though I know she'll return
And bring her smile to light my dreams. I find
I cannot think that my poor words might earn
Enough of her attention to hopes bind.
I try to tell my dreams, but all I say
Does not true hopes reveal as my heart sees.
I want her happiness: What must soul pay
To win a world that listens to my pleas?
I offer all I dare, to passions show,
Yet find she gives far more with just her eyes.
I am enthralled- How can I angel know
And not have heart be captured by her sighs?
She is desire, made real and warm and sweet:
How can I not want to her dreams complete?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 08:22 AM

(yes, the previous post was me, without cookie...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM

Come home! Come home! The last post is sounding
for you to hear. All good catters know very well there
is nothing to fear while they do what is right, and forget
all the worries they have met in their duties through the
year. A catter cannot always be great, but s/he can be a
gentle person and a right good pal to comrades in
the cat. So all you catters listen to this – Deal fair by all
and you'll never be amiss.

Be Brave! Be Just! Be Honest and True Mudcatters!!

The Last Post

Be alerted. This is the Last Post.

Any other post after this is a mere hallucinatory delusion. If you continue reading any more posts after this one, be aware that you are visualising images that may not in actuality exist. Take two aspirin and turn to another thread.

yours sincerely,

freda

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 08:54 AM

good try, but not good enough.


I still have 84 more sonnets to post, even if I stop writing more.... and I do not intend to stop.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 08:56 AM

i belive that was a hologram of bearded bruce that just posted.

(freda clone)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 09:01 AM

hologram? Hardly...


Perhaps a holomegagram.


But this thread has far to go before it rests....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 09:06 AM

that was actually a GHOST, not a GUEST!

something pretending to be freda.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 09:28 AM

just me without my cookie...


"Spring is here, spring is here...."

                  Poisoning Pigeons in the Park

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 09:43 AM

this thread is 1 year and 4 days old.


Happy ( belated) Birthday!






Can we have cake and ice cream now?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,ghost of freda, via back door
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 10:13 AM

When my illusion swears that it is made of truth         
    I do believe it, though I know it lies,                 
    That it might think me some mudcatted youth,         
    Unlearned in the thread's false subtleties.         
    Thus vainly thinking that it thinks me real,        
    Although all know my days are past the best,         
    Simply I credit its hallucinatory feel:         
    On both sides thus is simple truth suppress'd.         
    But Mudcat says he not he is unjust?            
    And Mudcat say not I that I am old?                 
    O, love's best habit is in seeming trust,                 
    And age in love loves not to have years told:         
    Therefore I lie with him and he with me,              
    And in our faults by lies we flatter'd be.

With apologies to William Shakespeare

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 02:51 PM

My goodness...things are sure picking up around here! What with ghosts and shadows of ghosts and friends of ghosts: it's haunting!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:39 PM

thus spake a hallucinatory image of 42 - this thread was officially closed on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM. Any subsequent messages are a fault in the computer.

freda clone.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:42 PM

thus spake a hallucinatory image of freda - this thread was officially closed on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM. Any subsequent messages are a fault in the computer.

Keyser Soze.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:49 PM

This chameleon-like border crossing, this shifting of holographic identities is, I realize, parallel to, or anticipates, or recollects my own life. I'm probably fluctuating across posts perhaps because my identity itself is always in flux. Therefore I don't feel comfortable in only one genre. this thread was officially closed on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM.

Ariel Dorfman

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:56 PM

I'm neither comment nor line

all shifting shape i am

i'm neither bold nor fine

mere thought and dream i am


this thread was officially closed on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM.

Gwydion

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 05:59 PM

No, this is not the 2000th post. this thread was officially closed on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM.

this is an illusion, caused by a digital burp in the program.


and i am not freda underhill, I am Gwydion, magically manifesting as freda to make a point. freyja is in fact the Nordic goddess of love and war.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 06:26 PM

This thread has NOT been officially closed, on 20 Mar 05 - 08:33 AM or any other time.


sonnet 149 of 232 to my muse... ( but 233 is almost done)


Sonnet 26/03/04                     DCCCXCIX

I see within your eyes another world
Where hope is measured by how much you smile.
You glance at me, and all of soul is curled
Around your pen: Can my verse find a style
To win your favor? Should I dream of lips
That whisper words of hope, or even pray
For chance that I might kiss? My desire slips
Into all I dream, and all that I say.
I cannot pen control: It dashes on
To speak on page of things I have no right
To ask, or dream. How can I live upon
My hopes, when dream is begging for heart's sight?
I should not think to such a fool remain:
In truth, I cannot heart's desire obtain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 06:29 PM

heh heh..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 06:39 PM

but if it is closed, my stated desire to post only one sonnet per day is no longer valid- and I can now post them all...


freda, I think that might be a (very much ) unintended consequence of your statements....... Care to reconsider?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 06:51 PM

sorry, BB, whoever's been posting under my name is a pigment of your imagination!

freda hologram

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 08:17 PM

a pigment? what color?


Infrared?


Octiron?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Mar 05 - 05:57 AM

sonnet 150 of 232 to my muse...


Sonnet 27/03/04                              CM

Be mine, sweet muse, that I might hold you near
And not think that I must soon let you go.
I want you in my arms: Should I make clear
How much I want your love? Words do not show
All that you mean, nor how heart aches to feel
The touch of skin, and warmth of my desire.
I long to trace all of your curves, to seal
All of you into heart, and dreams inspire.
Could lips tell more than pen? I would kiss try
To longings speak: How could I passions hold
From life, and action? Could dreams hope to fly
To one who all of dreams has to heart told?
You are the one that heart would passions give,
But can I tell of hopes, and let dreams live?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Mar 05 - 06:52 AM

what do you figure is the probability that BB and the member formerly known as 42 will allow a long forgotten, hobbit cousin with delusions of deity to terminate our existence?

I AM THE ANSWER!

42

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Mar 05 - 07:21 PM

chuckle..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Mar 05 - 09:26 PM

the possibilities are infinite.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Mar 05 - 03:22 PM

sonnet 151 of 233 to my muse...


Sonnet 29/03/04                               CMI

I want to reach out to my muse, but fear
I would not have will to ever let go.
Shall I risk heart, that I might hold her near,
When I've no reason that she should love show?
Shall I dream of my muse, and love return
For all her smiles? What would she want of me,
When I can give no thing that dreams not earn
From hope, and cannot hope to her eyes see?
Can I tame passions and chain my desire,
To harness heart to reason? Could I feel
That she is just vision that dreams inspire,
And I should not think I might make dreams real?
I dare not ask for heart's desire, to spend
Some time with muse, that she might my heart mend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Mar 05 - 05:14 PM

off to spend some time with mine...and a glass of wine at the end of a long day.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Mar 05 - 12:30 AM

sonnet 152 of 233 to my muse...


Sonnet 31/03/04                               CMII

She lights my dreams with her sweet smile, and gives
To heart the hope that spring will offer chance
To show a part of what in her glance lives:
A way of seeing all that feeds romance.
The thought of her lends passion to my night
And longing when I wake to bright sunrise.
I want her in my arms, to hold her tight,
And fall to sleep looking into her eyes.
What can I say, to tell what dreams have found
Within her words? Her thoughts reach to my soul,
And hold my heart: Heart is by my hopes bound,
And dreams seem to be by sweet muse made whole.
Muse brings the sunshine to a dreary day,
When all of world seems to be dark and gray.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Mar 05 - 08:09 PM

http://www.john-keats.com/

A site of some interest. Keats only wrote 64 sonnets, but they are worth reading. Perhaps I should put all of them here, as well?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Mar 05 - 11:07 PM

Whatever gets you through the night (shift)! Personally, I like yours just as well and you aren't even famous (as far as I know).

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Mar 05 - 11:19 PM

sonnet 153 of 233 to my muse...


Sonnet 07/04/04                              CMIII

To know that muse will someday tell me all
That words might mean, and if they reach, to touch
Her soul: That is enough for me to fall
Into my dreams and all of passions clutch.
She gives me hope for future, and the chance
To find my dreams in life. I do not know
If ever my words on her lips might dance,
Or see in eyes any of passion's glow.
I dare not wake, from dream: Heart almost holds
Sweet muse, within. All that I want, to heal
Past sorrows, heart can see. What desire molds,
I find no flaw in: Yet, are desires real?
I cannot doubt my feelings, nor her smile:
She is the one that gives verse hope for style.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Mar 05 - 11:22 PM

42,

Thank you. Fame would be nice, as would enough income to give time to chase heart's desires, but as I have told LH, if it makes one person happy, is that not reason enough to write?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 27 Mar 05 - 07:33 AM

Writing makes me happy and isn't that the rule of the universe...Make ME happy!


jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Alba
Date: 27 Mar 05 - 08:57 AM

...and so I felt compelled to add to this thread, not wishing to be last, but to be a part of the process.
My contribution is megre but still I waited here in front of the screen for this thread to come up, read the thread and feel that in doing so I now deserve to add something...worthy. Who's to say!

"We are the Music makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams.
Wandering by lone sea breakers, and sitting by desolate streams."

O Shaughnessy.

Alba...wether I am real or a figment of my own or others imagination is a mute point. Tis the Internet after all. Cyber Space..the other infinite Universe.

Blessings and a chuckle to all.
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Mar 05 - 06:16 PM

154 ( one "shakespeare") of 233 to my muse...


Sonnet 09/04/04                              CMIV

What do I ask of muse, that I need fear
She would not send me smile? I am a fool
To think that dreams upset her: It is clear
She would not knowingly act to be cruel.
What do I want of muse, that I dreams hide
When they are honest image of concern?
Why do words hesitate to hopes confide,
When heart would more than just her sweet smile earn?
What do I seek of muse, that I am scared
To ask to hold her in my arms, and search
For all of heaven in her eyes? I've dared
Far more, for less: Would hopes my heart besmirch?
Yet, I cannot risk even hope of chance
That I might someday find stars in her glance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Mar 05 - 06:24 PM

Welcome, Alba.

Please continue to comment and make contributions.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 29 Mar 05 - 10:23 PM

welcome...but don't think you have a prayer of being last!
The writing is lovely however.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Alba
Date: 29 Mar 05 - 10:24 PM

Why thank you for the welcome Sir:>)

"that I might someday find stars in her glance"....sigh.

Robert Burns

O, my luve's like a red, red rose
That's newly sprung in June
O, my luve's like the melodie
That's sweetly play'd in tune

As fair art thou, my bonie lass
So deep in luve am I
And I will luve thee still, my Dear
Till a' the seas gang dry

Till a' the seas gang dry, my Dear
And the rocks melt wi' the sun!
O I will luve thee still, my Dear
While the sands o' life shall run


Thank you Bruce for making me smile before I go to sleep, *perhaps to dream...:>) .... *huge liberty taken there!
Blessings
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 12:06 AM

sonnet 155 of 233 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/04/04                            CMV

What can I tell muse that would show my mind
And longing for the dreams she offers heart?
How can I with fears of upsetting part,
And hopes for smile within heart and soul bind?
Is there a path to my desires, to find
All I might want to be within my reach?
Can I find words to say, to feelings teach,
Or visions of her light, when soul is blind?
Yet, I find just the thought of her is source
For hope, and dreams, and vision: Might I send
A tithe of my emotions? Dare I give
An echo of the song dreams of smile lend?
I cannot help but hope that hopes might live,
And I might forget all of past remorse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Life?
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 01:33 AM

Gaaaawd,

Is BB still wittering on???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 02:27 AM

Yes. Perhaps you would like to have me post a few more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 12:00 AM

Well...everyone's always telling me to get a life...now I have one!
Rude: but a life nonetheless.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 07:35 AM

and I guess it's going to be me! WOO HOO.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 05:50 PM

sonnet 156 of 234 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/04/04                         CMVI

Can springtime offer me more than I find
In dreams of you? I do not hope to see
A flower to match lips, nor one to be
As soft as look in eyes. I have in mind
Rebirth enough for world: If you are kind,
I will to heavens reach, and brush your cheek
With lips. If only I might hear you speak
Soft words of hope, I would to past be blind.
But, dream does not fill arms, nor lend the gift
Of sharing your sweet looks. I remain far
From heart's desire: I must from your words sift
What hope I can. You remain distant star,
To guide my heart: For now, your smile will lift
My spirits up, and melancholy bar.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 01:09 AM

bad Guest...stealing BB's sonnets and posting them as your own!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 06:57 AM

sonnet 157 of 234 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/04/04                            CMVII

I brush my muse's lips, and touch her cheek,
With thought of her soft skin. How can I reach
To touch her heart? What can I say, to teach
The pleasure her smile gives?. My words are weak,
Compared to strength of passion my dreams seek:
All I desire would only give me cause
To want for more: Yet, longing for her draws
My verse beyond myself, to heaven speak.
I run my fingers through her hair, to hold
Some of her softness: Can I hope to feel
Her gentle dreams? I would in arms enfold,
And keep her near, if only dreams were real.
Should I think that I might of my hopes mold
Dream strong enough to her heart hope to steal?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 11:56 PM

sonnet 158 of 234 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/04/04                            CMVIII

Shall I whisper my passions in her ears
To tell what I would of this sweet one ask?
Should I admit I cannot control fears
That she might find cause to take me to task?
I am a fool, to think she does not know
The longing in heart for a gentle touch.
Yet, do I wish to all of longings show,
With reason to think that I care too much?
But I must give my soul, to one who brings
Such hope to all my dreams. I owe her more
Than words might pay: Hers is the voice that sings
The hymns that of my future form the core.
She is my muse, and friend: How might I share
My lusts, and not lose all for which I care?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 09:48 PM

sonnet 159 of 234 to my muse...


Sonnet 30/04/04                         CMIX

I wonder if dreams are enough, to hold
My hopes from lonely death: I long to feel
The touch of skin, and know that warmth is real.
Yet, thought of you keeps heart from being cold:
Should I allow even my dreams so bold
A vision of desires? Might passions steal
Far more than needed to past heartaches heal?
Still, I'd give soul to muse in arms enfold.
I wonder if I ask too much, to find
In muse more than a friend: I hold you dear
Without a touch. But more than just your mind
Acts to attract my heart: If you were near,
I would not keep from reaching out. Resigned
To fate, I have but dream to hold back tear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Apr 05 - 05:54 AM

sonnet 160 of 234 to my muse...


Sonnet 07/05/04                            CMX

In blossoms heart a simple beauty finds,
With shape and color to attract the eye.
In these gardens, thought of my muse reminds
That hope might pleasure lend, to tears deny.
Breeze, perfumed, soothes a weary heart, to ease
The aches of everyday. Still, I would share
All I have found: A calm, to senses please,
And thoughts of one whose dreams are key to Care.
Sun filtered by new leaves provides a light
To show desire: A shade of bright that lends
More than a hint of longing to my sight.
Do dreams offer a future when tears end?
I plant desire, and wait for dream to grow,
But will I ever touch of my muse know?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Apr 05 - 06:51 AM

... and I mark yesterday, the third of April 2005, with a white stone....


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 04 Apr 05 - 07:05 AM

The significance of the white stone slips my memory at the moment but I marked the 3rd of April, 2005 with a blizzard and multiple car accidents.

Each to his own.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:14 PM

42,

You were in multiple car accidents? Everyone ok?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:51 PM

sonnet 161 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 07/05/04                                  CMXI

I would my muse surround with love, and fill
Her nights with warmth and caring. Should I give
What she might ask, or let my own dreams live
And offer soul to one who holds heart still?
Yet, can I think I might oppose her will,
To take more than she wants? I cannot steal
What is not mine, though my desires might feel
The thought. Her smile gives hope that might past kill.
I see in her far more than smiles, but know
I should of dreams make light: I have no right
To form a future without her consent.
Yet, can I think of her, and not hopes grow
That I might touch her heart? Can dreams invite
A vision that would of concerns repent?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:29 PM

from earlier in this thread...

Date: 06 Mar 05 - 03:26 AM

"I mark this day with a white stone," begins the April 25th entry in Charles Dodgson's personal journal for the year 1856. The white stone as marker is an archaic tradition of the Roman poet Catullus, signifying a particularly remarkable or wonderful day (Stoffel, 38).

and

The expression originates in Catullus' "Lapide candidiore diem notare," (Poem 68, line 148) which translates as "to mark with an especially white stone the (lucky) day." The English version was quite commonly used in Victorian times.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:02 AM

sonnet 162 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/05/04                           CMXII

How can I give muse reason to be kind,
And share her thoughts? I cannot her dreams know
Without at least her words: Hope does not find
More than reflection in all my dreams show.
Perhaps I should not for her longings plead:
Can I hope to think hers match my desire?
It is not certainty of heart I need,
But hope enough that dream will Art inspire.
I cannot alter past, nor with dream mold
Tomorrow to my wish. But dream can share
A vision where I might in arms enfold
One for whose smile I choose to always care.
Though I may dream of touch, and long for lips,
It is her soul that into my heart slips.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 05:35 AM

sometimes it really does feel like I am talking to myself.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:09 AM

I hope you're giving yourself the correct answers...or. if not right, at least inspiring!

I wasn't actually in an accident! The Silver Streak was just acting up and CAA couldn't answer the phone due to the sheer volume of crashes. The weather was truly horrid and a great way to say farewell to an Ontario winter.

"They pronounced all the victims ok" John Prine

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 06:52 PM

actually, I am asking questions that I do not know the answer to....











four more posts and it will be 42's turn...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 08:46 PM

... sonnet 163 of 235 to my muse...



Sonnet 21/05/04                         CMXIII

Might I have feather from an angel's wing,
To be a quill to write of heart's desires?
Might I have laughter that brings touch of spring,
Or smile to give the sight that hope inspires?
I ask for token that you care for one
Not near enough to try to touch your heart.
I need a focus for my thoughts, a sun
To light my dreams and show the path to art.
Might I find future in the thought of eyes
That look into my soul? How shall I seek
To hold what so far beyond my reach lies?
How can I hope to of my desires speak?
Are you the one that all of my dreams hold?
Should my arms hope to such a dream enfold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 01:08 AM

... sonnet 164 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 30/05/04                         CMXIV

Would I might fall asleep, with you within
These arms that long to hold love. Can I find
The will to stay awake, when dreams are blind
To reasons I can never your heart win?
In dream, you remain near: Hope is not sin,
To want to touch you. I'll not hide desire
To trace your curves, and kiss: I do not tire
Of passions that might let future begin.
Yet, dream is not enough: I need to know
That you have smile, and peace in mind, to give
My own heart ease. What can I send, to earn
What I would prize? How can I think to show
What dream of you now means? My hopes can live,
And all of future will to light return.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 11:42 PM

sonnet 165 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/06/04                        CMXV

She does not know how hard it is to keep
From running there, to seek to see her smile.
She fills my thoughts: Might I hope for a while
To hold her in my dreams? I yearn for sleep
To show desire: Yet, can I from dreams reap
What I should ask of her? How can I think
That I have given care enough to link
Desire to action? Should I for hope weep?
She knows I care: But have I given sign
Of how much I want to give kiss to skin?
What should I do, to give heart hope to win
This muse from whom such longed-for passions flow?
What can I say, to any of dream show,
When all I dream is to hold her as mine?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 08:19 AM

How could I pass up an invitation so eloquent?

My 'spare' time seems to be disappearing somewhere into the ozone and I'm having difficult summoning up the energy to drag myself to the computer with my accustomed enthusiasm.

Don't give up on me yet BB.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 04:47 PM

sonnet 166 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 07/06/04                            CMXVI

To see my muse removes clouds from my sky,
And fills my heart with longing. Is her glance
For my soft words, or does the reason why
She gives me smile reflect a longed-for chance?
To read words from my muse gives me a touch
Of what she thinks, and how she views this plane.
I want far more: I want to know how much
My verse might reach to soul, to hopes explain.
To hold her in arms would be to hold all
That dream might find in vision of desires.
How can I hoped for care less than love call
When she is source of dreams that hope inspires?
I worry about muse, because I fear
I cannot hold angel forever here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:25 PM

If you can't hold angels, at least hold your breath.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:27 PM

forever?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:28 PM

no, not forever!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:28 PM

just until you reach that stae of euphoria which accompanies breathlessness.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:35 PM

ah, but I can get that with just thought of my muse....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:39 PM

lucky you...i need a bottle of wine, a long walk in a marsh and an evening of music to get there
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 06:50 PM

a good muse is a precious thing.....


Of more effect than a strong drink...

a true focus, a center of thought, desire, and dream...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 05 - 12:11 AM

sonnet 167 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/06/04                         CMXVII

A kitten finds my angel, and crawls in
To warmth and comfort in her arms. How much
I envy him! To know her caring touch
Would be to dreamed-of future hope to win.
What thoughts might kitten have, as tiny claws
Respond to gentle rubs? Does he realize
Who rescued him from rain and chill, and tries
To give him home? Does he touch heart with paws?
How might I join him, and hope to receive
That touch, and smile, and look of such concern?
What must I do, to hope of caring earn?
Should I all of my dreams of muse believe?
The more I know of her, the more I see
The reasons she gives such dear dreams to me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 12:09 AM

just purr!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 12:10 AM

sonnet 168 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/06/04                     CMXVIII

How can I reach to muse, to fill her night
With pleasure, and with joy? What can I give
To show how much I want to hold her tight,
And how I wish for all my dreams to live?
How can I win from muse all I desire,
To hold her in my arms, and kiss her skin?
What should I say, to tell her of the fire
That thought of her lets my emotions win?
How can I show the dreams that fill my sleep
With visions of her smile? She is the one
I want to give my soul, and let her keep
This heart, that has feelings of love begun.
She is too far to touch, but I must try:
Without dream of her kiss, my hopes would die.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 08:29 PM

sonnet 169 of 235 to my muse...



Sonnet 09/07/04                         CMXXI

To rest my head on muse's lap, and see
Moonlight reflected from her eyes: I find
This dream far more than hope. But, can it be
That I will ever dreams free from just mind?
I long to give reason for smile, to win
The sight of sparkle in her caring eyes.
What might such hoped for dream hope to begin,
When all my study has not made me wise?
My muse is center of my dreams: The key
To vault of visions. Can I hope to hold
The one who holds my heart, or does my plea
Ask for more than dreams earn, to dream enfold?
I find true beauty in thought of my muse:
She is the one that my heart's desires choose

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Apr 05 - 06:38 PM

sonnet 170 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 18/07/04                         CMXXII

I see, within my muse's eyes, the stars
To guide my dreams to heaven, and beyond,
To touch her smile. Yet, is distance what bars
My reaching out? Am I of dream too fond?
All I need is to know muse does not mind
My focus upon her, without the right
To fold her in arms, and heart try to bind:
I do not think to muse's desires fight.
I seek, in inspiration, something more
Than just reflection: I hope I will find
A truer vision, that heart might ignore
Life's loneliness, and to sorrows be blind.
No matter what might happen, know I care
For one who holds my heart, and dreams would share.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 08:49 PM

sonnet 171 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/07/04                        CMXXIII

I dream, but know dream is not truly real,
That I find my heart's goal. I may desire
This beautiful muse to more than inspire,
But she is more than vision: I'll not steal
What I hope she might give. How can I feel
Other than thus? She is the one I see
When all is dark: Can I not dream to be
Within touch of her lips, to passions seal?
But I know I cannot hold her apart
From world, and reason. Dream does not give cause
To be more of a fool: I dare not seek
To offer more than dreams, and soul, and heart.
She is my muse, but all of my dreams pause,
And wait, with hope I might hear her heart speak.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 09:28 PM

waited the obligatory four postings before responding. Wouldn't want to disappoint!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:32 PM

sonnet 172 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/08/04                         CMXXIV

I hear my muse, though I have not heard voice
Nor gazed into those eyes: My dreams have held
To words, and thought of smile. It is not choice,
But concern keeping me away. I've spelled
Out all my longings: She need only ask,
To have more than my words. But she can be
Whatever she might want, though I'll not mask
Desire to hold her close, and her smile see.
I see her, in mind's eye, though I just dream
She holds hands out, in greeting. I would seize
All she might offer, but I cannot give
What would not bring a smile. My words might seem
Confused, but verse and dream on muse agrees:
She is the one that makes my passions live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 12:01 AM

sonnet 173 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 15/08/04                           CMXXV

Dreams give reason to hope that time will bring
Bright dawn, and heart's desires. Can hope find cause
To stay, when I have heard muse in mind sing,
But know not voice? The years must give me pause,
But I cannot ignore her smile: I feel
I have found one to lend dreams light, and give
My heart it's goal: To find words that might seal
Affection, and show what dream would have live.
Yet, are my dreams to be? Should I now seek
To hold all I have dreamt, when I must fear
I do not know my muse's mind? I try
To earn a smile, but wait for her to speak
Some word of what she feels: I beg to hear
A reason I might to my sweet muse fly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 02:54 PM

no obligatory number of messages for anyone.


All who care to contribute in a positive fashion are welcome.- But if you don't like what is here, please try to post something YOU like, rather than tell others not to post.

Exceptions may be made for verse by William McGonagall- (**bg**)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 03:14 PM

for example, since I seem to be talking to myself, I will post another poem that I like...


WOMAN! when I behold thee flippant, vain,
Inconstant, childish, proud, and full of fancies;
Without that modest softening that enhances
The downcast eye, repentant of the pain
That its mild light creates to heal again:
E'en then, elate, my spirit leaps, and prances,
E'en then my soul with exultation dances
For that to love, so long, I've dormant lain:
But when I see thee meek, and kind, and tender,
Heavens! how desperately do I adore
Thy winning graces; - to be thy defender
I hotly burn - to be a Calidore -
A very Red Cross Knight - a stout Leander -
Might I be loved by thee like these of yore.

Light feet, dark violet eyes, and parted hair;
Soft dimpled hands, white neck, and creamy breast,
Are things on which the dazzled senses rest
Till the fond, fixed eyes, forget they stare.
From such fine pictures, heavens! I cannot dare
To turn my admiration, though unpossess'd
They be of what is worthy, - though not drest
In lovely modesty, and virtues rare.
Yet these I leave as thoughtless as a lark;
These lures I straight forget - e'en ere I dine,
Or thrice my palate moisten: but when I mark
Such charms with mild intelligences shine,
My ear is open like a greedy shark,
To catch the tunings of a voice divine.

Ah! who can e'er forget so fair a being?
Who can forget her half retiring sweets?
God! she is like a milk-white lamb that bleats
For man's protection. Surely the All-seeing,
Who joys to see us with his gifts agreeing,
Will never give him pinions, who intreats
Such innocence to ruin, - who vilely cheats
A dove-like bosom. In truth there is no freeing
One's thoughts from such a beauty; when I hear
A lay that once I saw her hand awake,
Her form seems floating palpable, and near;
Had I e'er seen her from an arbour take
A dewy flower, oft would that hand appear,
And o'er my eyes the trembling moisture shake.

Poems (1817)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 11:56 PM

gee I thought I submitted a message earlier but it doesn't seem to have made it. It was just a snarky little thing about misplaced apostrophes anyway so probably doesn't meet the "say something positive" criteria...although I think accurate punctuation does make everyone's life clearer - or even more clear.

but I'm old and cold and, like Amos, don't want to give up my wool for a sweater
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

sonnet 174 of 235 to my muse...


Sonnet 19/08/04                         CMXXVI

What is the price that hope demands heart pay
To make dreams real, and think of holding muse?
What can I give that could my feelings say
To the sweet one whose happiness I choose?
What is the cost of my desire to please
One far beyond my reach? Have I the means
To offer any part of what verse frees
From what I try to hold of vision's scenes?
What is the worth of longing, when life keeps
All pleasure in my dreams, and all dreams hold
To share with heart only when reason sleeps?
How might I some of hope for love enfold?
Yet, she has given cause for all my verse:
I know not if love is blessing, or curse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:21 AM

positive criticsm , such as grammer and punctuation, is fine- it is the "Is BB still wittering on??? " type of shit that I do not see as making a contribution.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 11:24 AM

oh! i just remembered what the other part of the missing post was....
did Shakespeare really compose a sonnet that didn't have 14 lines?
I saw it on Gilmore Girls last week and wondered if they'd just made it up.

by the way...F#ck 'em if they can't take a sonnet!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 11:52 AM

Sonnets have been written with from 12 to 18 lines.

Have to check on Bill, though.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:25 PM

Shakespeare's Sonnet 126

O thou, my lovely boy, who in thy power
Dost hold Time's fickle glass his fickle hour;
Who hast by waning grown, and therein show'st
Thy lovers withering, as thy sweet self grow'st.
If Nature, sovereign mistress over wrack,
As thou goest onwards, still will pluck thee back,
She keeps thee to this purpose, that her skill
May Time disgrace, and wretched minutes kill.
Yet fear her, O thou minion of her pleasure!
She may detain, but not still keep her treasure.
Her audit, though delayed, answered must be,
And her quietus is to render thee.



Keats also did a 12 liner...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:56 PM

18 line sonnets are actually more common. They are know as "caudated" sonnets, as they have an extra stanza. Sometimes before, sometimes after the couplet. I have not seen any in the Italian form, but they might be out there.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:07 PM

from Leigh Hunt...

Abu Ben Adam (may his tribe increase)
Awoke one night from a deep dream of peace
And saw, within the moonlight of his room
Making it rich, like a lily in bloom
An angel writing in a book of gold.                      5
Exceeding peace had made Abu Ben Adam bold
And to the presence in his room he said
'What writest thou?' The vision raised its head
And with a look of all sweet accord
Answered: 'The names of those who love the Lord          10
'And is mine one?' said Abu. 'Nay not so'
Replied the Angel: Abu spoke more low
But cheerily still and said 'I pray thee then
Write me as one that loves his fellow-men'
The angel wrote and vanished. The next night             15
It came again with awaking light
And showed the names of whom love of God had blessed.
And lo! Ben Adam's name led all the rest.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:18 PM

BB

i actually set myself a challenge last month and tried to compose a sonnet that could work as a song for my songwriters' group. On first performance they all said I should treat it as spoken word with an instrumental background.

Do you know of any place I could listen to a sung sonnet?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:27 PM

oops!

line 6 should be "Exceeding peace had made Ben Adam bold "
line 9 should be "And with a look made of all sweet accord "
line 16 should be "It came again with a great wakening light,"

And other versions seem to spell it Adhem...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:36 PM

sorry, I have yet to find a tune I like for any of mine, and do not know specifically about any others set to music- most poets want the words to stand on their own, with only voice.



8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:44 PM

line 17 " And showed the names whom love of God had blessed."

I think...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 02:58 AM

sonnet 175 of 236 to my muse...


Sonnet 27/08/04                         CMXXVII

What is the power of a woman's tears,
That they dissolve all chance heart might resist?
How can my hopes upon my dreams insist,
When her eyes, damp, show that she still has fears?
I seek only her smile, but what appears
I can't control: I may my desires list,
But hers are all that matter. I have kissed
Forehead, in dreams: Desire all action steers.
How am I to her sorrows ease, from far
Beyond the reach of arms? Dream cannot heal
Another's pain, yet heart must try to earn
All she has given: Years and miles might bar
Acting on my desire, but hope can steal
A kiss from dreams to taste of her love learn.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,pinion
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 03:36 AM

I hate poetry.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 04:36 PM

"guest" ...and who asked?

btw BB - I searched "sung sonnets" on google and an interview with Steve Earle came up top of the list. made me smile but I read the transcript.

I guess it is possible and Steve Earle went up considerably in my estimation.
J

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Public Domain
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 12:36 PM

I wanna be last

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 10:32 PM

tough!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:24 PM

sonnet 176 of 236 to my muse...


Sonnet 02/09/04                        CMXXVIII

My muse in mystery walks: She creates path
Through dreams into my heart. What does she find,
That I am gifted with concern? What math
Divides by distance, yet leaves hopes behind?
How can desire be won, when I would give
All heart might want just to her smile behold?
How could I dream that hope can make dreams live,
When I have so few of her dreams been told?
How can I reasons to be near her share
When only dreams are fuel for my heart's fire?
I hold in mind belief that she might care,
Though I can know only my own desire.
I prize my dreams, but do I have the right
To make her eyes the source of all love's light?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 12:22 AM

sonnet 177 of 236 to my muse...


Sonnet 03/09/04                        CMXXIX

Does vision let heart see enough to know
What might give muse reason for smile? I try
To still remember that I should not show
How much I need her, but heart cannot lie:
She fills my nights with longing. Can I tell
What I find in her eyes, in dream, and yet
Pretend my soul is not under her spell?
What words might show love, but not muse upset?
Hope feeds illusion that I'll have a chance
To hold her in my arms: A dreamed –of kiss
Gives me a taste of spring, and sweet romance,
But dream cannot all of desire dismiss.
She is one I will treasure, but I fear
I dare not try to touch, nor hold her near.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 01:49 AM

....
Throughout the maelstrom of his professional life Moore continued sonnetizing, eventually filling thirty steel cabinets in an outbuilding of his home, his "sonnetorium" (American, p.462). Various sources credit Moore with having written anywhere from fifty to one hundred thousand sonnets. Moore "was said to have kept a pad of paper attached to the dashboard of his car and scratched off a sonnet…every time he had to wait for a red light" (Ciardi, p. 27). Moore described his writing as a "compulsive addiction" and as "occupational therapy" (American, p. 462). In a 1956 reunion with other "Fugitives" at Vanderbilt University Moore maintained that he "never dared write more than fourteen lines at a time (and was) probably inhibited from doing so" (Vanderbilt p.148).
http://www.ncteamericancollection.org/litmap/moore_merrill_tn1.htm


http://www.sonnets.org/sterner.htm

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 06:49 AM

I love this one. Moore had an interesting life.

Wordsworth to the contrary notwithstanding,
Milton's and Shakespeare's statements also doubted:
A sonnet's force is not so easily routed
That flying one should not seek the safest landing.

As much as anything, a magic word
Is what a sonnet is, that quickly falls
If touched indelicately or shaken hard,
Or if it be reared too heavy or too tall.

Sonnets possess impertinence; they have bliss,
They require excitement in at least one line,
They need specific gravity and this
Especially is important—to be in focus;

Rarely a sonnet deserves to be exhibited;
Most of them should be (and they are) inhibited.
(Bender, p. 454)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 07:23 PM

and of course you all know this one...

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


two points if you can give the name of her book that includes this...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:04 PM

- by Emma Lazarus, New York City, 1883 - The New Colossus

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 12:07 AM

sonnet 178 of 236 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/09/04                           CMXXX

Arms tired of daily toil would hold you near,
To let your warmth heal weariness and aches.
What is the power of your touch, that makes
Just thought of you a cure for all heart's fear?
How might my words explain dreams, to make clear
How much I need thought of your smile? Hope takes
What you might give, that all of longing wakes,
And shows heart reasons to hold muse as dear.
Should I not dream desires, nor hope to share
Some time under bright moon, looking in eyes?
Are words enough to give, to show I care
That you have time to dream? Thought of age tries
To dull desires, but for my muse I dare
Ignore the years: How can love not be wise?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 06:35 AM

sonnet 179 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/09/04                           CMXXXI

Where can I find reason for hope, save thought
Of your sweet smile? World does not give me cause
To dream of passions, nor has labor brought
The satisfaction that would longings pause.
How can I hold to heart's desire, when arms
Find no one to encircle? Should I find
One near at hand, but lacking of the charms
That fill this heart, and dreams to my muse bind?
What can I change of life, to alter fate,
That I might balance reach? I cannot turn
From what words might of longing for you state:
You touch one who must all love's lessons learn.
Is there but chance that hope might be, and all
Will be as dream? Heart must for it's muse fall.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 06:42 AM

and now....


A year ago, today, this is what we were discussing....



Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly - PM
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:22 AM

Pimples are a sign that God/Goddess/All That Is remembers you. He/She/It is pretty busy, so in His/Her/Its Infinite Wisdom He/She/It shows His/Her/Its affection by sending pimples to us. I personally think it's awfully nice for Him/Her/It to take the time out of His/Her/Its busy schedual to do this for us...xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 07:17 AM

...seems like it was only yesterday. Is that a simile?!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:28 AM

btw, a 12 line sonnet is also known as a douzain...


Ones with extra quatrains are caudated ( footed) sonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 08:41 AM

more about Emma Lazarus

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 12:22 AM

where are my two points!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 07:44 AM

I have tried so often to get into this thread and had the thing time out before it loaded I have forgotten the bright witty post I was going to make !!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 07:51 AM

my neural pathways must be attuned to this thread 'cause it doesn't take long for me to find my way.

Perseverance is next to impossible!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 11:33 PM

OK, you want a sonnet? Here's a sonnet for you. And its not by Shakespeare. Or BB. Or even Emma Lazarus.

Flat Flip Flies Straight
(c)1971 Mark Cohen

There's something in the way it loves the air,
The way it soars and glides in wingless flight,
That makes one think of birds -- and yet, not quite
Like birds. It is unique; do not compare
Its madly whirling grace to anything.
Just watch its curving pathway through the sky,
And learn its ways, and practice long, and try
To tame this gaudy denizen of spring.
Oh, plastic is by far too base for you,
Most noble Frisbee! Even teak won't do.
No, nothing but pure gold, so rich and fine
Could but do justice to your noble line.
They fear it will not fly? "Fear not!" I say.
I cannot throw the damn'd thing anyway.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Apr 05 - 04:24 AM

its letting me in fairly quickly this morning so i might as well try to- - - - -

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Apr 05 - 04:26 AM

Get the 2100 th post !!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 Apr 05 - 07:51 AM

i imagine anything might be faster at 4:26 am! There's not a lot of traffic here either!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 03:58 PM

Mark, Thank you for the contribution.


42, here are your two points    <..>

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 04:12 PM

sonnet 180 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/09/04                            CMXXXII

Dream gives me all that my soft words have earned,
But heart longs for far more: How can I steal
The hope enough to offer all I feel?
For all my study, heart has never learned
To tell kindness from care. Dream has returned
Imagined passions: Can I know what's real,
Without even one kiss, to desires seal?
Should heart have from dream her desires discerned?
She is my muse: I cannot tears ignore,
Nor seek less than her smile. All I might say
Does not hopes change, yet can dream desires cure
Of longings for her touch? Should passions stray
Beyond all reason, how would I restore
The feelings found when she her dreams display?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:39 PM

Dreams 5
Desires 3

Dreams win. Hearts down!

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:50 PM

last for a moment...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:50 PM

in your dreams!
J

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:55 PM

dream a little dream of me....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:58 PM

Dream Weaver?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

Mr Sandman (yes?) Bring me a dream...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 12:11 AM

sonnet 181 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 30/09/04                           CMXXXIV

Might moon shine upon muse, to light her dream
And tell her she is loved? How can I show
My feelings of concern? Words do not seem
Enough to give, when I would her heart know.
Shall stars in her eyes sparkle, and give life
To dreams and deep desires? What will I find
Within night wind, to tell how to ease strife
Twixt hope and expectation, heart and mind?
Can reason seek out path to in arms hold
What passions have found to my dreams inspire?
How will I know if my hopes are too bold,
Or when longing exceeds proper desire?
The thought of her fills all of dreams, and heart,
But can I of desires win even part?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 03:50 PM

ok, if you won't post, I guess I will have to put more than one sonnet of mine up each day....


sonnet 182 of 237 to my muse...

Sonnet 11/10/04                           CMXXXVI

I give my muse sweet roses, to sweep tears
From eyes I long to see. Still, might I pray
That she will find her smile? Can I chase fears
From dream, with thorn and leaf , at least this day?
I give my muse a necklace, kiss by kiss
Upon her soft, sweet skin. I circle round,
But find no place to stop. Lips will not miss
The chance to touch what in my dreams I've found.
I give my muse my heart, and hope to find
I hold at least her hand. I do not know
Just how I feel: With what runs through my mind,
How can I tell if I would let her go?
All that I give does not win me desires:
It is her smile that provides passion's fires.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 05:12 PM

If who won't post?
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 05:16 PM

whoever is not posting...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 05 - 12:08 AM

sonnet 183 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/10/04                           CMXXXVII

Does rain wash away tears, or does the cloud
Cast shadow on her dream? How can sun shine
Without her smile? Is hope for dream allowed,
With muse unhappy? Can I make grief mine?
How might I ease her pain, or heal the ache
Another left in heart? Hope will remain,
But I regret the reasons that would make
This muse unhappy, and cheeks with tear stain.
Might I kiss muse, and brush away her tears?
She is far more than one to love: She gives
My dreams the breath of life. Yet, all the years
Conspire, to make sure some of doubt still lives.
She is enough, for hope, and all my dreams:
Why can I not believe all is as seems?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Apr 05 - 04:48 PM

yikes! I might win!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:24 PM

sonnet 184 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/10/04                      CMXXXVIII

I dare not touch my muse, for fear I'd hold
Forever: Arms would round her stay, and lips
Would taste her neck, and ears. Am I too bold ,
To tell my dreams? Hands would caress her hips
And follow curves to trace where I would kiss.
Yet, can I give what would fulfill my muse?
Is love enough to offer her the bliss
That she deserves? Do longings hopes confuse?
Should I deny desire, and not admit
How much I want her touch? Thought of her heats
My heart: With dreams on fire, I try to fit
Thought to this flood of passions that soul meets.
I know dreams give false hope, but I must try
To give muse all, that she might not tears cry.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 05 - 09:50 PM

still 53 + sonnets to post, then the 40 ballads, then....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 12:13 AM

well that's definitely somethings for which I look forward.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 12:30 AM

sonnet 185 of 237 to my muse...



Sonnet 14/10/04                           CMXXXIX

In dream, I give a book of hours: Each page
A chance to step outside of time, and find
A refuge from Life's cares. In other age,
I would seek favour to upon arm bind,
And show my heart's devotion: I declare
I would your champion be. How might I earn
That look in eyes, and all of longings share?
How can my words show how much my dreams yearn?
In dream, I hold you safe from any harms,
Protected by concern, and care. Should I
Seek more than that? If I held you in arms,
Could I contain desire, and dreams deny?
You know my hopes: You need but ask, to be
The one I would in mornings think to see.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 09:20 PM

sonnet 186 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 15/10/04                           CMXL

My muse need only call, and I would run
To hold her in my arms, and guard her sleep.
The hopes and dreams thought of her has begun
Are reason enough to her comfort keep.
I wish that I might reasons know, why she
Such passions form in dream: She brings a fire
To burn sorrows away, and lets me see
Enough of hope to all of heart inspire.
She is more than just muse, but can words tell
Just why I feel this way? How can I know
What she thinks of my dreams, when, under spell,
I see in silence more than what words show?
I would forever wait, for muse to find
The time and reason to share heart, and mind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 May 05 - 01:35 AM

sonnet 187 of 237 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/10/04                           CMXLI

I'm drunk, on dreams of muse: I cannot keep
From dreaming more. In vision she is guide,
To lead my thoughts out of the past. I weep
To have the chance to let sweet hopes abide.
Tears are of joy: In muse I find a light
To show what might yet be. How can I reach
To hold her, though, when dream has not the right
To be as real? Could muse some caution teach?
I know I seek for more than reason gives
A cause: I try, but cannot not muse love.
Still, I do not regret that in dream lives
This passion for one that my heart dreams of.
She is reason enough to sense refuse:
A beautiful woman, and precious muse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 May 05 - 07:16 PM

sonnet 188 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/10/04                           CMXLII

How might I lift her above daily grind,
To ease the wear of day-in, day-out toil?
How can I give her time enough to find
Words to tell dreams, or dreams to be the soil
To nurture hope? Am I greedy, to think
That I will gain from dreams? She is my source
And focus: How could I in heart not link
Her happiness with mine, and fear remorse?
How might I ease concerns, when they are real,
Except to offer care? I cannot change
The past: Might I have chance to future feel?
I should not presume to her life arrange.
I want her to have time to love, and dream:
What would it take for joy to in eyes gleam?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 May 05 - 02:44 AM

sonnet 189 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 19/10/04                      CMXLIII

I am but human: I would like to give
Far more than I have means or time for. Yet,
It bothers me, that I cannot words live:
She deserves moon for light, stars in hair, set
To crown her face, but my arms cannot reach
To moon, or stars, or her. There comes a time
When I must sleep, though I would smile beseech
And beg for her words. Is my weakness crime?
How can I stay worthy of muse's gift,
When I repay dream with excuse? I fear
Life is beyond control, but I should lift
Her needs above my own, to hold hopes near.
Am I a fool, to want to give her all,
When I can't time spent truly my own call?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 May 05 - 03:56 AM

I hope somone joins me here. I would hate to actually BE the last one.......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 May 05 - 07:00 PM

sonnet 190 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 23/10/04                           CMXLV

I ache, with season and continued strain,
With little chance to rest. Thought of my muse
Is all that keeps me from collapse: To gain
Smile gives reason to even rest refuse.
I treasure moments that I share, with one
Who offers world to dreams: What can I give
Save time, to show true worth? Dreams have begun,
But can heart hope to ever those dreams live?
To talk with muse gives me the chance to know
A little more about her: Will she say
Some word of hope, or will she coolness show,
To hold at distance, keeping heart at bay?
She is my muse, with eyes that hold my heart,
And smile that gives reason for dreams to start.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 05 - 10:42 PM

still reading. just lazy and can't think of anything profound to say. Report card lingo rings between my ears.

this is me...not leaving you in the lurch.
j

i'm not sure i'm even signed in as myself. a teenager has taken control of my computer

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 05 - 12:40 AM

sonnet 191 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/10/04                           CMXLVI

Would arms round sleeping muse capture her dreams,
To find how to her happiness pursue?
Might I then know what of my passion seems
To win her smile, and all of hopes renew?
How can I not this muse desire, when she
Reaches my soul with words, and eyes, and smile?
What is her power, that she seems to be
All that I want, and all my dreams beguile?
I long to hold her, but I long far more
For her to find the path to her desire.
How shall I help, to happiness ensure,
Without the fear effort might earn her ire?
Is love a madness that takes over heart,
To lead one into dreams where hopes might start?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 05 - 02:07 PM

Today's Post from the Past.....

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ellenpoly - PM
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:46 AM

..."Between the years of ninety-two and a hundred and two, however, we shall be the ribald, useless, drunken outcast person we have always wished to be. We shall have a long white beard and long white hair; we shall not walk at all, but recline in a wheel chair and bellow for alcoholic beverages; in the winter we shall sit before the fire with our feet in a bucket of hot water, with a decanter of corn whiskey near at hand, and write ribald songs against organized society; strapped to one arm of our chair will be a forty-five caliber revolver, and we shall shoot out the lights when we want to go to sleep, instead of turning them off; when we want air we shall throw a silver candlestick through the front window and be damned to it; we shall address public meetings to which we have been invited because of our wisdom in a vein of jocund malice. We shall ... but we don't wish to make any one envious of the good time that is coming to us. ... We look forward to a disreputable, vigorous, unhonored and disorderly old age."

                                       Don Marquis, 1927


Me, I've already started..xx..e


(PS-Including the beard)

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but we have dropped farther behind MOAB. I guess the following post explains why...


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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:10 PM

Only about 2555 posts needed now to catch up with the MOAB!


....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Blackcatter - PM
Date: 05 May 04 - 01:16 PM

Yes, but with this thread it's quality over quantity.

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 05 - 12:04 AM

sonnet 192 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 28/10/04                           CMXLVII

What shall we talk of, dearest muse, tonight,
To pass the long night hours? Might I declare
How much I prize your smile, and that the sight
Of eyes gives me cause to know you are rare?
You deserve all that I might give, and more:
You deserve heart's desire. How can I know
The words to tell how much you hopes restore?
You are more than you realize, or show.
What can I dream, that would give chance of smile?
How can I show just what it means, to think
You might allow concern? Can heart find style
That might my longings and end of doubt link?
Remember that I love you, and recall
I find in love reason to offer all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 May 05 - 06:53 AM

of what shall we speak BB; on this morning
when the sun rose at 6:00 to kiss my eyes
one by one? Suddenly, with no warning,
driven by a certain need to rise.

Leaping from beneath the sheets left tangled


sorry...have to go to work now. (i know that doesn't scan or rhyme)

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 07 May 05 - 07:01 AM

now I know how it feels to be hanging by a thread!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 05 - 06:52 PM

sonnet 193 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 28/10/04                           CMXLVIII

Perhaps muse is less than she seems, but I
Can see no flaws, in eyes, or smile, or face.
Her soul gives heart reason to care: So why
Would I want someone else to take her place?
Perhaps she is not what I see, the source
Of inspiration that gives all my dreams.
But why, then, does absence give such remorse,
And to be close is goal of all my schemes?
I weep, to not be there when my muse cries,
To have no way to comfort her, or hold
This woman in my arms, and look at eyes
That fill my dreams, and my soul's core enfold.
If she must weep, might I brush tears away,
And give kiss for each one, to sorrows slay?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 May 05 - 12:58 AM

sonnet 194 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 31/10/04                           CMXLIX

How might I fill my muse's night, to give
You thought of something you might want to do?
I should not try: But I would in dreams live,
And find if any of dreams might come true.
I want to keep you company, but know
The distance keeps me from holding you near.
Thinking of you, all of my longings grow,
But without sight of eyes, I future fear.
My heart is willing, but the flesh is weak:
I cannot stay awake. Though I regret
Giving up time with you, I should not speak
When not awake: I might my muse upset.
Sleep well, dear one, and know I love, and care:
Find in your dream what would win smile, and share.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 May 05 - 07:25 PM

sonnet 195 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 05/11/04                            CML

How might I heal your smile, and dry your tears,
Or find those dreams that you have lost? I know
I want all of tomorrows without fears,
And you to need no mask, and let dreams show.
I weep, that you must cry yourself to sleep,
And think you need to hide just how you feel.
What might I do, to give new dreams to keep,
And show you that there is concern that's real?
I try to find words to tell what you mean
To one who holds you just in dreams. You are
A precious soul: You share heart, and I glean
Some of soul. How can sadness your hopes bar?
You are my muse, and friend: Should I not ask
What I might do , to remove need for mask?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 10 May 05 - 12:20 AM

me again!
J

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 05 - 12:37 AM

sonnet 196 of 238 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/11/04                            CMLI

I cannot help but write sonnets to muse:
Her words sing sweet song into dreams. She sends
Such music to my heart; My verses use
An echo of what she so easily lends.
What power over heart does muse control,
That all of dreams are of holding her near?
Do I find in her eyes enough of soul
To give hope? Must I dreams of passion fear?
Might I fill muse's thoughts with words of love,
As she fills mine with pleasure and with joy?
How can I give enough for what dreams of
Her eyes allow, yet not my muse annoy?
She is my precious muse: The one to give
Reasons for hope, and help for love to live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 05 - 12:43 AM

42,

I was wondering if I was just talking to myself. Good to know someone else is here.

40+ sonnets and 40 ballads to go...


Then I start a different series, to one of my past muses...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 05 - 12:52 AM

42,

"Leaping from beneath the sheets left tangled"

should be a good start to a sonnet... You might want to work on it....problem is, a good rhyme would be 'dangled', and I am not sure THAT is where you would want this to go!


Leaping from beneath the sheets left tangled
By night's passions, I run away, to work.
Should we discuss what it was that dangled...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 05 - 12:58 AM

of course, if you want the Italian rhyme scheme, (abbaabba) you could use tangled/mangled/strangled/dangled ( in any order...) Perhaps ( in the example above , the b rhymes couls be work/shirk/lurk/perk ....


Leaping from beneath the sheets left tangled
By night's passions, I run away, to work.
.........perk
Should we discuss what it was that dangled...
.........mangled
.........shirk
.........lurk
.........strangled.


etc. You might want a different order.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 10 May 05 - 02:35 AM

rambling seems to work best.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 10 May 05 - 04:00 AM

I am stil waiting patiently to win this one......

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 05 - 01:50 PM

nope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 05 - 12:01 AM

sonnet 197 of 239 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/11/04                            CMLII

Should I let dream be all of life, or try
To make dream real? Should I risk smile, to win
A chance at heart's desires? Is longing sin,
That I must more than dreams of you deny?
What should I hear, in silence? What reply
Can I expect, when distance keeps me far
From eyes and lips? Yet, I cannot dreams bar,
Though I might in vain for my desires cry.
You are more than just dream: The verse you share
Gives heart reason to hope, and mind the chance
To see another's vision. Can I hold
You in more than my dreams? Should I now dare
To ask for more than hope, or think romance
Might be enough to your desires enfold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 11 May 05 - 01:02 AM

definately nope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 May 05 - 08:09 AM

thanks BB. I thought the beginning of that post was a sonnet and was hoping you'd finish it off for me. These suggestions are even more fun!
I'll take some time later today and try to (no pun intended) flesh it out.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 12 May 05 - 07:26 AM

What?!...no sonnet to brighten this chilly morning?

Are you well?

Had a thought...I wonder if it is possible to use every known form of punctuation in one sentence.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 May 05 - 01:55 PM

sonnet 198 of 239 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/11/04                        CMLIII

I think about my muse, and know I care
Far more than might be wise. How can I be
All I desire, when I cannot hopes share,
Nor can dreams find the way to her dreams see?
If reason leads away, I cannot go,
To leave my dreams bereft of life: I try
To reach for understanding, but I know
I have no hold on her to force reply.
What can my longing win, when dreams must stay
Apart from life? I seek her heart, but feel
I should not ask for my sweet muse to say
Whether I might ever make my dreams real.
I want her smile, yet truly I want more:
How can I joy and glow in eyes restore?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 May 05 - 03:19 PM

not sure. If one has a period, that ends the sentence- as does a question mark or exclaimation mark... So, I would think not.


But I could be wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 May 05 - 03:39 PM

another "post's from the past..."


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From: freda underhill - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:34 AM

Aut insanit homo, aut versus facit.


(the fellow is either mad, or he is composing verses.)

From: GUEST,noddy - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 08:50 AM

another one of my great typos strikes again.

From: s6k - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:06 AM

it would appear so


From: freda underhill - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:10 AM

typo makers of the cat unite.. its like a mutation in nature - you never know what will evolve out of it.. at the very least, a few laughs, at the most, with a little ogransaition, we could rlue the werld!

freda

From: JennyO - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:13 AM

....and then we might have whirled peas....

From: freda underhill - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:16 AM

LoL

that would be somethnig!


From: 42 - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:16 PM

trolling for ogres is an excellent pasttime for goats of all sizes.
j


From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:27 PM

"I copulate, therefore I am." LOL! What a great philosophical statement. It's a neat summation of the state of mind of a young man aged, say, 17 to 25....or of a billy goat or a male rabbit.

From: Blackcatter - PM
Date: 12 May 04 - 09:58 PM

Give you thanks to Malcolm Muggeridge He coined it in Esquire 1970.







Dubito, ergo credo.


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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 14 May 05 - 07:44 AM

ripostes!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 May 05 - 07:03 PM

sonnet 199 of 241 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/11/04                         CMLIV

Shall I place kiss upon forehead, to show
The care I have for dreams, and your desires?
Would it be wise to gaze into eyes' fires
When I cannot more than what you say know?
Yet, might I let my longings to life grow,
To find if skin is as sweet to my lip
As your words are to heart? Might my arms slip
Around you, to concern for you bestow?
I want you in arms to hold and protect,
To know that you are near, and not just dream;
To feel your warmth, and let dreams become real.
How might I reach to you, save to reflect
In words what heart now feels? Yet, my words seem
Far from the passion that would love anneal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 05 - 12:03 AM

sonnet 200 of 241 to my muse...


Sonnet 20/11/04                            CMLV

Will you allow concern, dear one, that I
Might worry when day ends without your smiles?
Should I not be upset heart cannot try
To give reason for joy, or ease your trials?
Might there be something I could do, to change
Your mood? You matter to me: Can I give
Some pleasure back, if just in fair exchange
For all the dreams that gave hope chance to live?
Is there a chance I might kindness repay,
To give you comfort, or to soothe your heart?
How can I dream when I know not the way
To capture tears, or have your laughter start?
What can I do, to share the joy I feel,
That thought of you has made dreams more than real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 May 05 - 12:17 AM

btw, sonnet 241 to my muse is also the one thousandth sonnet that I have written. Still a ways to go, to compete with Merrill Moore.


42, I'm waiting to see what you do with the sonnet... Sorry about putting you in the Italian form, as that is a little more difficult. But it just seemed to be the right form...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 May 05 - 06:36 AM

BB I've been a headless chicken lately with too many gigs (to play and to organize) and haven't even looked back at it. I did copy and paste your suggestions into something useful just now so we'll see what happens.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 May 05 - 07:03 AM

i heard you talking in your sleep
is there anything i can say
i don't believe we've had a word all day
about anything at all.*

















Gordon Lightfoot*

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 May 05 - 08:32 AM

If we took Bruce's sonnets out of this thread it would be a lot shorter.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 07:51 PM

If we took the comments from people telling us to remove others postings, this thread would be a lot more worthwhile...


If you don't like it, just post something of your own.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 08:03 PM

sonnet 201 of 241 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/12/04                         CMLVI

I should not allow dreams, but heart in you
Sees something far too precious not to reach
To hold, forever. With your eyes, you teach
My soul something of heaven: There are few
That fill my feelings so. Yet, dreams can't do
What I desire: To wrap my arms around
Sweet muse, and nibble upon ear. I've found
No path to hopes, save that heart remain true.
Yet, are dreams foolish when I do not know
Enough of your desires to bring you smile?
Should I not think about kissing your skin?
Perhaps I should not let these passions grow,
Without a kiss. Yet, dreams of you beguile
My heart: I would all of you seek to win.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 08:26 PM

sonnet 202 of 241 to my muse...


Sonnet 02/12/04                            CMLVII

I seek for spells, to keep muse safe, and stars
To dance attendance upon dreams. I try
To win desire: Only the distance bars
My arms from reaching out, to hopes reply.
I chase after my dreams, to hold her near
And whisper that I care. Thoughts of her fill
My nights with longing: Should I passions fear
That I have sought? Will hope do me some ill?
I beg for reason to run to her: All
I want I see in muse. How can I stay
Apart from heart's desire? Can dream not call
With power to all of my past fears slay?
She is far more than dreams, but I have found
Heart is captured by hope, and by dreams bound.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 09:45 PM

sonnet 203 of 242 to my muse...


Sonnet 03/12/04                         CMLVIII

Can I find some gem to your eyes reflect,
To place around your neck, that it might touch
Where I long to caress? Can I expect
To kiss soft lips, or do I ask too much?
Shall I dream about you, and let thoughts trace
The curve of neck? You know I want to hold
My arms round inspiration: Shall I place
Hopes upon page, and let desires be told?
Might I weave you a crown of roses, white,
And all of thorns removed? You command all
Of dream, and of my heart. Might I share night
Looking at smile, and into your eyes fall?
You are my muse, and focus of desire:
Can I not dream of one who dreams inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:56 PM

I hate when people interrupt!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:58 PM

interupt what?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:59 PM

shall I post another sonnet, just for Giok?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 05 - 03:45 AM

sonnet 204 of 242 to my muse...



Sonnet 05/12/04                              CMLIX

Would you have me send dreams, to fill your night
With my desires? You know I long to hold
Arms tight around my muse, but have I told
How much I want to taste skin, and lips bite
Your ears? Might you brush hair from neck, invite
My touch to trace your jaw, and let lips meet?
Yet, I need not taste kiss to know how sweet
You are: Words give heart reason to seek sight.
Would you have me be more than one who writes
Of hope and dream? You need but ask, to gain
All I can offer. Should I hope you dare?
I will be what you wish: You hold my nights
With eyes, to keep dreams alive. I remain
One who must try to show I'll always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 05 - 06:36 PM

sonnet 205 of 242 to my muse...


Sonnet 09/12/04                            CMLX

You are not burden, though I would support
All you might wish. How can I help, to ease
The season's trials? You know in dreams I court
All of your love: Would it help to dreams cease?
I care enough to not pursue desires:
I have made clear my dreams. All I demand
Is honest thought, and words. Your heart inspires,
And dreams give soul chance to season withstand.
You know I want far more than dreams might earn,
Yet how can I less than love muse, when she
Gives reason for my dreams? Might smile return
Reflection of the care I hope you see?
All that soul seeks, I find in your soft eyes:
But does dream make heart any the more wise?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 05 - 05:35 AM

sonnet 206 of 242 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/12/04                            CMLXI

Does moon give light enough to show the way
To follow muse into her dreams? I chase
After the shadows: Should heart hope to trace
A path through clouds to stars, or on earth stay?
Will words my own desires truly display,
Or am I fool to think that I might place
Hopes onto page? Can heart even dream face,
And not regret words cannot longings say?
Does rain wash away fears, or clear the mind
Of all past's burdens? Should I thank the chill
For cooling passions, or is it the hour?
Where will I answers to my questions find,
Or more than dreams to all my night times fill?
All I am sure of is muse has the power.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 May 05 - 08:39 AM

i've tried for three days to post and it won't do it. so I'm probably wasting my time because this won't go anywhere anyway.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 May 05 - 08:42 AM

so, it let this one through and left my beautifully crafted- tangled ball of yarn metaphor wafting around in the ozone...life's not fair!

I didn't go to kindergarten so I never learned all I needed to...but life should be fair at least some of the time
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 May 05 - 09:13 PM

sonnet 207 of 245 to my muse...


Sonnet 15/12/04                            CMLXII

I seek for guidance from my muse, to know
How much of all my love she might desire;
What of my dreams might give delight, or show
The longings that dreams of her eyes inspire.
How might I learn her dreams, save by the time
We share in conversation? Should I dare
To think my lines might some of passions mime,
Or only hope words show how much I care?
When will I know her heart, to see if all
Of dream might ever be? She is the goal
Of all desires, but more than longings call
Dreams to her: She is one who reaches soul.
How can I find reason to hold her near?
All I can hope is that she'll my heart hear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 24 May 05 - 12:02 AM

go away for the long weekend and come back expecting my sonnet quota to be met....only one!

yikes...
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 12:16 AM

sonnet 208 of 246 to my muse...


Sonnet 20/12/04                      CMLXIV

Does muse give vision because I desire,
Or are dreams only shadows that she casts?
I do not know, but pray she does not tire
Of sending smile, for hope that in heart lasts.
I cannot longing cease: Thought of her eyes
Fills dreams with such desire that I must weep
To clear my sight. Yet, are my desires wise,
When I cannot hold her, and her dreams keep?
I reach beyond all bounds, to try to touch
One who all of dreams hold. What can I do
To show sweet muse and the wide world how much
I want her happiness, and her dreams to be true?
I find in her spirit that to soul calls:
Can dreams not follow, when heart in love falls?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 12:20 AM

so, should I post some extra sonnets when I know I will not be on for a few days? I don't want any cases of Sonnet Deficiency Disease (SDD?) to occur, now that I have you addicted to them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 May 05 - 04:05 AM

Addicted?? Quick give me a large plate of cold turkey somebody!
Little Hawk you have spawned a monster.
G...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 04:28 AM

ok, Giok. I will post more sonnets for you...


sonnet 209 of 246 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/12/04                      CMLXV

When will I find the chance to show concern,
That muse might know that my caring is real?
I can think that she knows just how I feel,
But do I have a hope that she will learn
How long love lasts? My desires still return
To those heart lost: I cannot now forget
No matter pain recalled, any I've let
Give dreams and verse, though some did not love earn.
I hold to dreams as long as muse permits,
And care until I die: Can I give more
Than all of heart? Muse holds my soul, if she
That soul desires. What other feeling fits
But love? I find my muse to be the core
Of all that heart in dream of love might see.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 04:29 AM

sonnet 210 of 246 to my muse...


Sonnet 26/12/04                           CMLXVI

I chase after my dreams, and muse: I seek
To hold her in my arms, close to my heart.
Yet, should I of my longings to her speak
When I cannot at distance passions start?
Muse gives reasons for hope, that dreams might yet
Be more than vain desire. I want to find
How to her happiness increase, to let
Her dreams be guide for thoughts within my mind.
I taste the kisses muse has sent, and think
How sweet lips are. She is all I desire:
A light to soul and dream, my only link
To higher plane. I cannot of hope tire.
Perhaps I care too much, but I would give
All she might need, to have my desires live.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 04:31 AM

sonnet 211 of 246 to my muse...


Sonnet 6/1/05                            CMLXVII

Might muse dance with the snowflakes, and take joy
In season's gifts? Frost forms a lace, on wall
And window: Formal dress, that winds employ
To show pleasure that she the steps recall.
Might she share starlight and bright moon that shows
Bare trees in lonely majesty? She lends
Life to the night: Sweet smile hints that she knows
More of my thoughts than all written word sends.
Might muse sing song, or whisper of dreams speak,
That I might know desires? Heart wants to share
The pleasure dreams have brought, but should I seek
To give more than token of how I care?
What might muse do, and how might I share hour
With one that all of heart's desires empower?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 24 May 05 - 09:37 AM

Thank you BB another 3 that I didn't read, got any more? Silly question really 'cos I just know you have!
G..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 07:41 PM

of course I do!


sonnet 212 of 247 to my muse...

Sonnet 7/1/05                            CMLXIX

I dare not ask for heart's desire: I know
That my dreams are not real. Yet, should I end
All hopes? Dream of you still my passions show
To be under spell, but do dreams offend?
You give me leave to dream, but am I fair
To place burden on you, when I remain
Too far to offer help? What that I care,
When I can't hold in arms, nor share your pain?
I want far more than dream: I want to think
That I give you reason to smile, and you
But happiness enjoy. Hope is the link
Between life and desire: Might hope come true?
I understand how foolish dreams might be:
But I cannot dreams of my longings free.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 05 - 07:58 PM

As long as I know you are not reading them, I guess I can post as many as I like each day.....





8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 24 May 05 - 10:16 PM

so, who rained on your parade today, Giok?

Here's a quarter....

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 24 May 05 - 11:37 PM

If he doesn't want to read them that's his own loss.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 01:07 AM

sonnet 213 of 247 to my muse...


Sonnet 13/1/05                           CMLXX

Why do I feel this way about my muse?
I dare not think I have heart won, nor found
Some secret spell to hold her love: I choose
To care without hope muse is by dream bound.
I want far more than I deserve, from one
Who owes me nothing. She is sweet, and kind
To let me dream: Yet, have my dreams begun
In muse to see what they've not right to find?
I have no means to happiness ensure,
Nor power to protect, but I would hold
Her in my arms. Should I my passions cure,
Or surrender to dream, and dream enfold?
She is much more than dream: She has the whole
Of heart and inspiration in her soul.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:06 AM

Nobody rained on my parade guest, in fact my parade is going along just fine and dandy thanks. Just been to too many poetry club type readings in my time I guess.
G...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:17 AM

O Wert Thou in the Cauld Blast

O wert thou in the cauld blast,
On yonder lea, on yonder lea,
My plaidie to the aingry airt,
I'd shelter thee, I'd shelter thee.
Or did misfortune's bitter storms
Around thee blaw, around thee blaw,
The bield* should be my bosom,
To share it a', to share it a'.

Or were I in the wildest waste,
Sae black and bare, sae black and bare,
The desert were a Paradise,
If thou wert there, if thou wert there;
Or were I monarch o' the globe,
Wi' thee to reign, wi' thee to reign,
The brightest jewel in my crown
Wad be my queen, wad be my queen!

*bield = shelter, protection

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:20 AM

Love Sonnet LXXIX
by Pablo Neruda

By night, Love, tie your heart to mine, and the two
together in their sleep will defeat the darkness
like a double drum in the forest, pounding
against the thick wall of wet leaves.

Night travel: black flame of sleep
that snips the threads of the earth's grapes,
punctual as a headlong train that would haul
shadows and cold rocks, endlessly.

Because of this, Love, tie me to a purer motion,
to the constancy that beats in your chest
with the wings of a swan underwater,

so that our sleep might answer all the sky's
starry questions with a single key,
with a single door the shadows had closed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:23 AM

Love Sonnet XI

by Pablo Neruda

I crave your mouth, your voice, your hair.
Silent and starving, I prowl through the streets.
Bread does not nourish me, dawn disrupts me, all day
I hunt for the liquid measure of your steps.

I hunger for your sleek laugh,
your hands the color of a savage harvest,
hunger for the pale stones of your fingernails,
I want to eat your skin like a whole almond.

I want to eat the sunbeam flaring in your lovely body,
the sovereign nose of your arrogant face,
I want to eat the fleeting shade of your lashes,

And I pace around hungry, sniffing the twilight,
hunting for you, for your hot heart,
like a puma in the barrens of Quitratue.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:24 AM

Passing stranger! you do not know
How longingly I look upon you,
You must be he I was seeking,
Or she I was seeking
(It comes to me as a dream)

I have somewhere surely
Lived a life of joy with you,
All is recall'd as we flit by each other,
Fluid, affectionate, chaste, matured,

You grew up with me,
Were a boy with me or a girl with me,
I ate with you and slept with you, your body has become
not yours only nor left my body mine only,

You give me the pleasure of your eyes,
face, flesh as we pass,
You take of my beard, breast, hands,
in return,

I am not to speak to you, I am to think of you
when I sit alone or wake at night, alone
I am to wait, I do not doubt I am to meet you again
I am to see to it that I do not lose you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:26 AM

499. Ae Fond Kiss
   
AE fond kiss, and then we sever;   
Ae fareweel, alas, for ever!   
Deep in heart-wrung tears I'll pledge thee,   
Warring sighs and groans I'll wage thee!   

Who shall say that Fortune grieves him          5
While the star of hope she leaves him?   
Me, nae cheerfu' twinkle lights me,   
Dark despair around benights me.   

I'll ne'er blame my partial fancy;   
Naething could resist my Nancy;   10
But to see her was to love her,   
Love but her, and love for ever.   

Had we never loved sae kindly,   
Had we never loved sae blindly,   
Never met—or never parted,   15
We had ne'er been broken-hearted.   

Fare thee weel, thou first and fairest!   
Fare thee weel, thou best and dearest!   
Thine be ilka joy and treasure,   
Peace, enjoyment, love, and pleasure!   20

Ae fond kiss, and then we sever!   
Ae fareweel, alas, for ever!   
Deep in heart-wrung tears I'll pledge thee,   
Warring sighs and groans I'll wage thee!   

GLOSS: wage] stake, plight.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:34 AM

... sonnet 214 of 247 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/1/05                         CMLXXI

I want my muse, to hold throughout the night,
To look in eyes, and taste her skin. I long
To touch, and run fingers through hair: How might
I realize this dream? Will fears be wrong?
I want my muse to want me, and desire
All I might give. I hope that she might see
Enough in me to some future inspire,
But should I hope to more than dreamer be?
I want my muse to know the joy I feel,
Having focus for care. What can I say
That would my dreaming share? Can dreams be real,
That she might, in time, in caring arms stay?
All of my wanting does not make it so:
But I must take this chance to longings show.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 05 - 04:40 AM

anybody else want the microphone?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: miss.rebecca
Date: 25 May 05 - 08:01 AM

oh now we are using a microphone?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 May 05 - 08:24 AM

A fuzz pedal and a wa-wah box too, please don't even mention his tremolo arm!
G..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 05 - 08:01 AM

and a partridge in a pear tree!
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 May 05 - 08:11 PM

sonnet 215 of 247 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/1/05                        CMLXXII

How might I find flower to send, that tells
Of my desire? Sweet rose has thorns to give
Unwanted wound; The lilac casts no spells;
And lily less time than even dreams live.
Is there blossom yet to be found, as sweet
And soft as dream of muse, that does not fade?
I seek what may not be: Yet, heart will greet
As real these hopes that dreams of muse have made.
I have only pale words, to try to please,
And dreams where I wish memory. Dare heart
Demand even a smile? Does dream heart tease
With hope that lips might ever passions start?
My muse allows my dreams, but should I think
She might let heart from her heart's desires drink?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 27 May 05 - 10:06 PM

..as long as it's not ME!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 May 05 - 10:57 PM

no chance of that...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 12:00 AM

sonnet 216 of 247 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/1/05                            CMLXXIII

A storm approaches, but thought of my muse
Gives all the shelter heart requires. Dreams hold
To springtime smile: I find dream can refuse
To let snow and wind make me think world cold.
Her eyes show warmth enough to melt the ice
That drips from pine. Might I have chance to share
Her bright regard? Dream does not quite suffice,
To give me heart's desires, but I still care.
Snow does not cover dream, yet, I remain
Too far away to hold her within arm.
How can I share the warmth that hopes obtain,
To muse comfort, protect, and keep from harm?
She offers hope, reasons for dream, and all
That I desire: How can my heart not fall?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 02:26 AM

ok, here is a recipe from one of my cookbooks. I request comments as to how authentic it is, and variations.

_____________________________________________________________________

Swedish Glogg

2 quarts dry red wine
2 quarts muscatel
1 pint sweet vermouth
2 tablespoons Angostura bitters
2 cups raisins
peelings of one orange
12 whole cardamoms, bruised in a morter with pestle or by covering with a towel and crushing with a rolling pin
10 whole cloves
1 piece ( about 2 inches) fresh ginger
1 stick cinnamon
1 ½ cups ( 12 ounces) aquavit
1 ½ cups sugar
2 cups whole almonds, blanched and peeled

In a 6- to 8-quart enameled or stainless-steel pot, mix together the dry red wine, muscatel, sweet vermouth, bitters, raisins, orange peel and the slightly crushed cardamoms, whole cloves, ginger and cinnamon. Cover and let the mixture stand at least 12 hours so that the flavors will develop and mingle. Shortly before serving, add the aquavit and the sugar. Stir well and bring it to a full boil over high heat. Remove at once from the heat, stir in the almonds and serve the hot glogg in mugs. In Sweden, a small spoon is placed in each mug to scoop up the almonds and raisins.

Serves 20 to 25.
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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 02:28 AM

there is a recipe for Finnish Lemon mead, as well....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 May 05 - 03:32 AM

Let's hear it for Joe Offer
G...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 03:35 AM

Hear, Hear!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 05 - 03:13 PM

here here!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 May 05 - 04:28 PM

Where where?
G..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 07:27 PM

where ever.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 May 05 - 11:32 PM

no comments on the glogg?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 May 05 - 11:51 PM

comment on the glogg...what is muscatel and why would anyone want to drink it. It thought it was just a line in a Daniel Lanois song.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 05 - 01:08 AM

Meaning of MUSCATEL
Pronunciation:    `musku'tel


WordNet Dictionary

Definition:   [n] sweet aromatic grape used for raisins and wine
[n] wine from muscat grapes

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 05 - 01:11 AM

sonnet 217 of 247 to my muse...


Sonnet 31/1/05                      CMLXXIV

I cannot keep from caring for the muse
That all of dreams control. She is the one
That hope and verses give: Can I refuse
The love her eyes have in my heart begun?
I want to find a path, to hold apart
From cold and tears. How might my words conspire
To keep her warm, and safe? Is all of heart
Enough, to give a shadow of desire?
I seek to learn all that I might, of why
She has such power; Not to break heart free,
But to seal spell forever. I would try
To know all of this maid who holds heart's key.
Can I let passions stay, and fill my night
With dreams of her, and still to heart hold tight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 May 05 - 06:07 PM

sonnet 218 of 248 to my muse...


Sonnet 04/02/05                      CMLXXV

Muse sends a link to past, to fill my mind
With images of how she was: Each view
A chance to see facet of gem I find
To be the greatest treasure heart holds true.
I have in her a precious flower, that gives
My heart delight, and dream focus for care.
How can I tell of all the hope that lives
In thought of her? And knowing, do I dare?
She is my inspiration: Can I reach
Beyond verse, to her lips? Should I desire
To know how her skin tastes? Can my dreams teach
My heart the reasons thoughts of muse inspire?
Will heart find in my dreams enough concern
That I will not to past despair return?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 05 - 01:50 AM

sonnet 219 of 248 to my muse...


Sonnet 11/02/05                         CMLXXVI

Muse walks under bright stars, and fills the night
With warmth beyond the season's due. Eyes glow
With care and dream: Can I think that she might
See how dear she remains, and my hopes know?
Is there chance that these lines might show the hold
Just thought of her has on my heart, or tell
A part of my desire? All I have told
Does not explain even a tithe of spell.
Yet, I still fear I cannot give her all
That would a smile obtain: Should I regret
I cannot keep her in my arms? I call
To her, to try to learn how to dreams get.
I need just shadow of a chance to be
Muse's desire, and I would to her flee.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 30 May 05 - 07:29 AM

well...Monday morning and I'm off to the zoo with 20 seven year olds.
Wish me luck.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 May 05 - 02:21 PM

luck...


seven 20 year olds would be more fun...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 05 - 02:53 PM

Ha! Thought you got rid of me, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 06:51 AM

Hey *Ananada Narayana Bramanandamahansa Krishna Das,

Aren't you the catter 'formerly known as Little Hawk'?

Never thought about getting rid of you! (well there was that one time in the tree house.)




j

*"Blissful Though Apparently Separate Manifestation

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 10:43 AM

Now...don't go spreading any rumours, 42. :-) Just for that I am going to start posting lengthy Dylan lyrics here. Either that or talking about Shatner ad nauseum...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 02:21 PM

Don't make me repost my sonnet redouble...


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 02:25 PM

sonnet 220 of 248 to my muse...


Sonnet 14/02/05                   CMLXXVII

How can I ask that you hope to heart give
When arms have not held, nor kiss tasted lips?
I need your smile. In image of eyes live
Dreams to fill future: Longing for touch grips
My soul, holding heart from sadness. I care
Too much to resist calling: To hear voice
Gives reason to even my sorrows bear.
How can I think in loving I have choice?
Dream of you soothes some of the aches I find
Depression has pressed upon heart. You bring
Calm with desire; Passion, with peace of mind
That heals hurt and gives soul reason to sing.
You are my muse: I need only to know
That you care, to give cause for hope to grow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:50 PM

sonnet 221 of 248 to my muse...



Sonnet 14/02/05                         CMLXXVIII

These are the eyes that fill my nights, and send
Moonlight to dreams. How can mere words repay
The gift of her sweet smile? Dreams of her lend
More to my heart than ever words can say.
Might I some future find where I might stare
At this sweet one? Should I think to embrace
My dream and inspiration? Do I dare
All of imagined desires try to chase?
I long to hold her in my arms, and show
How much I care, and how I would protect
From winter's chill. I want for muse to know
The power over heart she can direct.
She touches heart, with words, and smile, and eyes:
How can love for her be other than wise?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:51 PM

and continued silence from all the gloggers out there...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:02 AM

glug glug glug glug! The sweet sound of glogging....

(or a stuck key)
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:49 PM

Wot's glogging?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:49 PM

2222 - nice numbers!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

It is really quite surprising that William Shatner did not make that post # 2222, considering the tremendous numerological significance.

I am puzzled about that. It's troubling. Disturbing. Uncanny.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:47 PM

ok, now that someone has broken all those 2's...

I had posted a recipe for glogg earlier in this thread (Date: 28 May 05 - 02:26 AM ) and asked for comments as to how authentic it was...


LH-

I made an agreement with WS-

I won't become a bad actor if he won't write sonnets or post here. So far, it has worked to both our benefits.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:54 PM

Every time I read one of your sonnets, BB, I HEAR William Shatner reciting it in a very dramatic, yet whimsical fashion. Cool, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:57 PM

LH,

I am not sure whether to thank you or challange you to a dual to the death...


But I am glad that I can bring even you some pleasure with my efforts.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:14 PM

Even me? EVEN me?????

What, sir, are you implying?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:25 PM

I had assumed, from your obvious attainment of higher enlightenment, that you would not need, nor desire, to take pleasure in the simple weavings of word and emotion that I endeavor to provide.

Perhaps I am mistaken.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,David Hannam BNP
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:19 PM

I bet me posting on this thread might JUST edge the thread that little closer to closing. hehehe. C'mon moderators, close the thread before it is inundated with retched little fellows like me. :-) haha

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Filthy Eddie
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:24 PM

You're a right prat, David, and that's why you've got me vote, you silly bugger!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 09:17 PM

Actually, on this thread anyone can post. It would be nice if you make some contribution to the conversation- comments on past postings, something to discuss, the odd ( or even) poem...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 10:28 PM

Not a sonnet...but nevertheless...

The ancient jokes, the guilty face; nails bitten to the quick
May seem unchanged to casual eyes
It's a smoke and mirrors trick.
I know most things improve with age
Guess you're not one of those!
The house may not be empty but I'm living with a ghost.


That crooked smile, your messy hair; the laugh lines round your eyes
May seem the same on random glance
We both know otherwise.
We regret the road not taken
The fear not risen above
It's the wrong way to do the right thing…
That reminds me of someone I used to love.

Desire and memory pale. Words; like bullets, ricochet
The colours of the spectrum lost…the way that photos fade.


Hungry eyes, haunted past; Moments stolen from the night
Seem, as a dream when morning dawns,
To vanish in daylight.
A hello kiss, farewell caress
The mask fits like a glove
You remind of someone I used to love.

An echo of a shouted word. A ripple from a penny tossed
A longing for what might have been. A harmony with whole notes lost

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 11:38 PM

42, disabuse yourself of the notion that life is hard, and we are all ragged but defiant survivors. It's a common and flawed assumption in the hallowed halls of folk music, and it's one not worth clinging to. Fred Eaglesmith, for example, just spent an entire album putting forth that gaunt and ragged survivor message...the album sounds great, but I don't buy it.

Life is actually magnificent, beautiful, wonderful, and we are all angels undergoing apprenticeship and preparing for graduation into far greater things. Our aging bodies mislead us as to the real nature of the journey we are on.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 11:57 PM

sonnet 222 of 248 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/02/05                   CMLXXIX

How can I keep from weeping, when I know
I have no chance to hold you? Should I try
To pretend dreams are real, and let hopes grow
For what will not be? Must I let love die?
How can I keep from trying to reach out
When you are my desire? You fill my thought,
And give reason to care. I dream about
Sweet smile and eyes: Must my dream be for naught?
How can I keep from begging for your touch,
To know that muse is real? You are the core
Of dream, and hope: Should I be fool, and clutch
At one that heart has chosen to adore?
Must I remain only a distant voice,
When I would offer heart, given the choice?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:44 AM

LH (leaving out the "as usual") you miss the point of a nostalgic glimpse at several long gone relationships

By not believing we have infinite opportunities to win that coveted job with Mr Trump I choose to live now...embracing all the magnificent, beautiful, wonderful, angelic facets of life with ragged defiance.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 12:24 AM

sonnet 223 of 248 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/02/05                   CMLXXX

I find my dreams in sight of your green eyes,
That give my evenings touch of spring to be.
Chill does not reach my heart, though wind still tries
To show winter remains: My hopes are free.
I find my dreams in your soft words, that lend
Concern when I have need of smile. You give
Reason to dream.. You all my sorrows mend
With just hello: You give hope cause to live.
I find my dreams in longing for the touch
Of lips upon your neck, and soft embrace.
You are desire: Do I ask for too much
In wanting you? Must dream passions replace?
In you I have found heart's desire: I know
I have no choice but to hopes for love show.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 06:46 AM

BB I had to read through that one a couple of extra times just to insert the imaginary punctuation that allows it to make sense.
That last line is a real work of art.

Are there some rules about this in sonnet circles?

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 03:55 PM

not really. Each of us writes as we desire- we will all know if it worked in a few hundred years, when we see what is remebered and reread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:32 PM

What happened to this thread? We lost our begining!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:58 PM

sonnet 232 of 249 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/03/05                        CMLXXXIX

Four years now I have known you, and I find
You to be muse of rare degree. You share
Enough of self to give me verse: I dare
To hope that you will to dreams remain kind.
Should I pretend that I am to hopes blind,
Or not in my words my own feelings bare?
I think, perhaps, you know how much I care,
And that dreams of you are always in mind.
How might I celebrate, that you remain
My focus and hope's source? You are the light
Of dream, and chance to heart's desires obtain:
How might I hope to hold you throughout night,
And win your waking smile? Is it insane
To want your love, should you think love is right?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:05 PM

There's no beginning...
There'll be no end
'cause on my love, you can depend.

(love is all around me) ?poppy family?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:15 PM

.... with the first nine sonnets to my muse gone, I guess I will have to start over.........


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 05:01 PM

that guest was me...oblivious to the fact I had somehow been signed out.

bring on the "lost" sonnets!

jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:29 PM

sonnet 233 of 250 to my muse...


Sonnet 23/03/05                         CMXC

My dreaming of your eyes keeps me awake,
Though I now need to sleep. I'll not regret
Them: It now seems only dreams that can make
The nights a time of rest, to work forget.
My thoughts of your soft voice soothes heart worn out
By effort to get by. I hope to know
How I might your dreams hear: Are they about
What spring might offer, and the season grow?
My hopes for future fill my mind, but all
Cannot ease present gloom. My soul is tired
In trying to keep up with world. I fall
Away from dreams: I am in darkness mired.
The only gift that spring has ever brought
Is you, sweet muse that has all of heart caught.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:28 AM

sonnet 234 of 250 to my muse...



Sonnet 31/03/05                         CMXCII

How can I keep from caring, when your eyes
Hold to my heart? With smile, you give me all
I need to ease my soul. Talk satisfies,
But does not yet fulfil dream hopes recall.
How can I not want all that you might share,
To hold whatever muse might lend? I fear
I ask too much, yet must dreams to muse bare:
You are one whom I would wish to hold near.
How can I show you how it feels, to win
The inspiration of muse? Should I tell
How you fill dreams long lost, and dreams begin
I had no hope for? You place dreams under spell.
I cannot give reason enough, to show
How much I value muse, but pray you know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:34 AM

Oh boy! 7:30 and another beautiful day. Perhaps today I will get my date with Winona Ryder.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 02:40 PM

And...perhaps not...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 07:17 AM

eternal optimism suits you LH!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 04:12 PM

sonnet 235 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 06/04/05                         CMXCIV

Forgive me, muse, for staring, but you are
So beautiful. How can I not spend time
Looking at eyes? The circumstances bar
More than hug, but at least glance need not rhyme.
I do not want to let you go: I fear
It will be far too long before I see
My muse again so near. You are too dear
To find other than tears in your leaving me.
I know you must depart, but might I seize
This chance to thank you for the dreams you give?
Could I not try to find some way to please
The one who gives hopes the reasons to live?
I want what cannot be, but might you spend
Some future time letting me comfort lend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 12:17 AM

sonnet 236 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 17/04/05                         CMXCV

I look into your eyes, and offer soul;
All I can give to show I care. I try
To earn a smile, to keep hope in dreams whole:
Yet I cannot concern for muse deny.
You are someone I value above heart:
My muse and friend. I worry when you frown,
And long to hold when I fear tears may start:
Yet, can I protect without holding down?
I would have you soar as you wish, and free
From other's obligations. Can I lend
My caring, to lift up, and let you see
How much you mean to one whose heart you mend?
Is there a reason I should stay away?
Can I not hope to share your dreams some day?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 07:08 AM

hmmmmm
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 08:29 AM

Aha. Well, this certainly reminds me of various recent states of mind, BB. You've got it bad, man. :-) Now try imagining being without her and still being happy anyway...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 04:53 PM

LH,

If I am imagining, why shouldn't I imagine being WITH her, and still being happy?


I try to let my verse reflect my thoughts and emotions on what is actually happening to me, or at least what is happening in my heart's desires.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 06:53 PM

I'm just saying try it. See what that's like. Then you are totally free to go back to imaging being with her. It's really cool if you can be happy both ways...and then opt to be with her as a matter of choice.

That's what I am trying these days.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 07:02 PM

But which is a better reflection of the state I am in?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 11:13 PM

sonnet 237 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/04/05                         CMXCVI

I want to hold my muse within these arms,
And wake to bright, sweet morning. Should I reach
For heart's desire? I wait, for her to teach
What she might wish: Should I fear that hope harms
The chance for love? Or, are my fears alarms,
To warn from seeking to her love beseech?
Would gaining dream the passion from dreams leech,
That I would lose all in winning her charms?
She is true muse: I cannot dream recall
Without thinking of eyes that capture heart.
Should I not hope to her true desires touch?
Might heart find cause that dreams of her are all
That night allows, that thoughts of her will start
Feelings on whirlwind, and hopes are too much?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 12:33 AM

sonnet 238 of 251 to my muse...


Sonnet 01/05/05                         CMXCVII

Can vision of muse fill my arms, or dreams
Of those lips give me taste of her soft skin?
I think not: But, thinking of her now seems
Enough to let heart know what hope would win.
Can desire find the words to feelings tell
From such a distance? Am I fool to feel
She is my heart's desire? What is the spell
That dreams of muse are far more than just real?
Can concern for her ever not be right,
That I should try to care less for her smile?
How could I make dream not seek for the light
I find in eyes? Are my hopes now on trial?
Is there reason that I should doubt desire?
Would less than love all of these dreams inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM

different strokes for different folks.
some manage to dodge the bullets and some welcome them

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 08:18 PM

sonnet 239 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 10/05/05                         CMXCVIII

Shall I send mirror to my muse, to show
Her image of my heart's desire? She gives
Dreams hope: What might I find to let her know
How much I prize the soul that in her lives?
She is more than a dream, but still fills night
With thoughts and feelings: Should I try to reach,
To fold muse into heart? Have I won right
To offer more than words, to longings teach?
I fear she knows my heart yet does not chose
To push away, nor pull me near: Which way
Will I chase dreams? I could not bear to lose
The chance I might her sweet smile earn someday.
Should I ask muse to my future decide,
Or let life be, and in my dreams abide?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:25 AM

sonnet 240 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 12/05/05                         CMXCIX

What magic does my muse possess, to hold
To heart and soul? The thought of her has power
To all of dreams control: Hopes know how cold
Her absence leaves even the warmest hour.
Can longing find a path, to lead my dreams
To muse and summer dawn? Should heart desire
Only this one sweet perfect flower? Heart seems
To have no choice: She all of dreams inspire.
Will time alter desire, to give hopes pause
While I remain alive? I cannot say
All will remain the same, but muse is cause
Of caring I cannot from heart let stray.
She fills my dreams, and heart, and soul: How might
I find the words to keep her in my sight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:00 AM

There was a young man called El Ted
And while he was laid in his bed

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:01 AM

His fingers did flicker,
But someone was quicker

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:02 AM

And got posted the hundred instead

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 09:18 AM

ah, the things that amuse some people!

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 09:59 AM

Ha! I can hardly wait for William Shatner to nail the 1000th post on the "I Quit" thread...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 10:45 AM

Ah dear 42 [Good year that!] I myself have uttered those very words to no avail and eventually I sccumbed to temptation and joined the merry band. It's a case of 'If you can't beat them [nice thought]join them'
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: *Laura*
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:17 PM

beep.
beep.
beep.
beep.
peeb.
beep.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:27 PM

"Vairy eenteristink" as they used to say on the 'Laugh In'
G..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 01:51 PM

He who posts last, posts loudest.

So, can I stay now? I mean, that was pretty good, right? Shite, I didn't read the thread... maybe someone already posted this? Oh well, if so, I'm just repeating it because I appreciated it so.

So, what isn't THIS thread about?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: *Laura*
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:32 PM

yes.
i don't have a plan for this post.
It's just this at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 05:06 PM

Sooo, I should fit right in... cause I never know what I might say next.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 06:55 PM

sounds like you fit in to me...


Any contributions are welcome- but some of us would prefer not to have orders to shut up, or just about any political discussions here- there are plenty of other threads available for that. That said, we really will talk about any topic someone wants to bring up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 07:05 PM

Pabst. You can flippin' well have it. I drink Export, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 05 - 07:06 PM

eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 01:19 AM

sonnet 241 of 253 to my muse


Sonnet 13/05/05                         M

Should I deny I want muse in my arms,
That dream might be? I know I ask for more
Than reason would allow, but hoping harms
No one save me: How can I hopes ignore?
I cannot hide desire: I long to feel
Her lips on mine. Yet, should I try to be
More than just friend? Would action only sea
My fate, to lose hope, yet not let heart free?
I bide my time: Perhaps she will decide
What she would have me do. I'd rather wait
Than risk her smile. I cannot my hopes hide,
But have no wish to rush to know my fate.
She knows that she is precious, and my muse:
I cannot her desire ever refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 03:42 AM

Just as things were getting interesting !
G ¦¬]>

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 03:55 AM

Giok,

Feel free to ignore my post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Jun 05 - 11:11 AM

ok.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 12:00 AM

sonnet 242 of 253 to my muse



Sonnet 18/05/05                               MI

Should I not dream of you, nor want to give
Reasons to smile? You are beautiful, bright,
And sweet: How can I hope that hopes not live
To bring a shadow of you to my night?
Should I not think about your smile, nor eyes
That reach my soul? You are my heart's desire:
Is to ignore all of my feelings wise,
That I should seek from passions to retire?
Should I not want to all of you caress,
When you are all that dreams and heart search for?
Yet, is there reason I should love you less
In absence, when thought of you hopes restore?
Might I just dream of you, and want you near,
Or will I always risk of upset fear?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 09:05 AM

Four surreal eye Kuwait.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 03:41 PM

"Life is a struggle and a pleasure, a worry and a treasure."



from khandu, on another thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 10:20 PM

sonnet 243 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/05/05                            MII

If I let hopes guide more than dream, what price
Would my heart have to pay? Would you be kind,
And give me chance, that I might try to bind
My needs to your desires? Eyes soul entice
To hold, but should my heart now seek advice
Of what reason allows? I am not blind
To all that stands between the hopes I find
Within, and what must for present suffice.
If I let heart run free, to dreams pursue,
Would I still earn your smile? Can caring win
Your happiness, when heart wants all of you?
Know I'll not feelings hide: My hopes are true,
But do not control all. Would it be sin,
To ask you to some of my dreams renew?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 12:09 AM

hearts are like library books...just when you really know them; you have to give them back.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 09:38 PM

sonnet 244 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 21/05/05                            MIII

Dare dream of you future allow, when we
Might gaze at stars? Should I desire a time
That I might watch you sleep? Can dreaming be
Enough, when I know love is not a crime?
Might heart know how much of itself to send,
That you not think me fool? I cannot tell
How to now less than love you: You are friend,
Muse and desire; Are you true love as well?
Will I find reason to reason ignore,
And seek you out, to stare into your eyes?
I fear you might not these sweet dreams restore,
Should I, unwanted, seek to offer ties.
Yet, does it matter if I dream, or not?
Can dream be real, or love ever my lot?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 05 - 07:51 PM

sonnet 245 of 253 to my muse...



Sonnet 22/05/05                           MIV

Have I the chance to more than my words share,
Or will I hold only as muse? You guide
The path I take: Did I not think you care,
I would not risk dreams, but these feelings hide.
Yet, I want honest feelings; That you give
Only what you desire. I could remain
At distance, if you your own desires live.
How can I now your happiness attain?
I care enough to rather that you choose
What would fulfil your heart's desires: I know
You deserve far more than just being muse.
Yet, I will still my longing for you show.
You need but ask, and I will leave or stay:
And for your smile I would all of dreams pay.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 05 - 10:27 AM

sonnet 246 of 253 to my muse...




Sonnet 23/05/05                            MV

Sweet rose, I dream about your smile and eyes
That are more precious than my life. I wait,
To find what you think of the verse that tries
To show my heart: I still seek for my fate.
How can I alter past, to change the way
We each look at the world? You know I seek
My heart's desire, but should I dare to say
I find in you what all of desires speak?
Should I my hopes ignore, and just enjoy
Thought of your smile? Dreams of you fill my night
But do dreams ever my dear muse annoy?
Might I hope vision will show more than sight?
Is there some path that dreams might find to tread
That pleases you, and does not leave hopes dead?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 05 - 03:06 PM

sonnet 247 of 253 to my muse...



Sonnet 24/05/05                         MVI

What part of mood is sadness that I feel,
Unspoken by muse? Does she send me tears
As well as dream? How much of gloom is real,
And how much reflection of muse's fears?
Yet, might I ease some of concern, to tell
Her plain that she is loved for her own sake?
She deserves all, and more: Her tears compel
That I try to some sweet distraction make.
What can I do to help her smile regain?
Is there a prayer that I might offer chance
For happiness and joy? Can love obtain
Even shadow of hope, without romance?
How can I tears avoid, when time has let
Joy slip from muse, and hopes for dream upset?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 05 - 03:47 PM

another six posts and I can claim victory and let this thread unravel...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 12:13 AM

Who WAS that masked woman???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 06:37 PM

sonnet 248 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 29/05/05                         MVIII

In what dream will I find your smile, to lend
Some comfort to my heart? I cannot hold
You in my arms, nor have I means to send
A token of my need to hopes enfold.
Thought of you calms my soul, but fills my dream
With hope and hot desire: Should I admit
The passions you inspire? Can verse redeem
That I can't fears defeat, with all my wit?
Can caring help find smile, or will you tire
Of all my words? Should I not seek to mold
Present, and future? Must heart ignore fire
That dream of you ignites? Are hopes too bold?
And yet, for all my fears and lack of chance,
I feel I love you still, and want romance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 05 - 03:04 PM

sonnet 249 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 09/06/05                         MIX

I do not know how to hold muse as mine,
Though I am hers: How can words find a way
To show concern? Can hope from distance say
Enough, or should dreams to dark fears resign?
I worry that my muse's moods align
Too well with mine: Does yearning heart relay
More than desires? How can I caring stay,
Yet offer sadness? Will heart's hopes decline?
Should I seek to know how to her smile earn,
When I fear I might yet give cause for tear?
I'd rather dreams die than risk hurting muse.
What can I do? To what path should I turn,
To protect muse's heart? Dare hope appear
Before I know which of her dreams she'll choose?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 04:55 PM

sonnet 250 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 16/06/05                            MXI

How can I send her some of the desire
I have for her sweet smile? How can I lift
Concern out from her dreams? Hopes do not tire,
But heart wants to no further from dreams drift.
How can I stay so far, wanting to hold
Her in my arms? Should I not try to reach
To her, to more than just my dreams enfold?
Is there reason I should not love beseech?
How can I seize the source of dreams, and show
The passions thought of her gives heart? I fear
She does not need my care: How can I know
How longings in my heart to her appear?
I want her happiness more than my own
Desires: Has verse truly hopes ever shown?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 07:18 PM

You are a man in the grip of romantic dementia.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 08:26 PM

and this is a bad thing?


What power is greater than love?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 08:59 PM

The greatest love is that which loves all...not that which loves one special chosen individual. The only real love is unconditional love, and romantic love is normally both highly exclusive and highly conditional.

If, however, you can actually manage unconditional love (which is for all beings, not just one), you can still have romance in your life, I hasten to add...just in case you think I would deny it to you. I wouldn't do that.

I am suggesting that if you were really in LOVE, you would be writing sonnets not just to her but to all of creation.

You may find that she cannot hold indefinitely up under the burden of having to carry the entirety of your love, a love that is meant for all of Life, not just her.

No power is greater than the love which loves all, without conditions, plans, dreams or expectations.

And I am not the first who has said these things by any means...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 05 - 10:46 PM

AH, but as my muse, I find in her the focus of my love: As one merely human, it seems to me that I should take what I can get.


I look forward to your unconditional love of GWB, Rove, Rush, and MG... You would be a far better man than I to be so gifted.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 07:59 AM

You assume that you are just "merely human", but you may be more than that... ;-) I suggest that you are more than that. Why settle for a nice cupcake when you can have the whole bakery?

I do unconditionally love GWB, Karl Rove, etc...BUT that does not mean that I love their outer personalities or their destructive policies or that I approve of their foolish decisions or that I would vote for Mr Bush, given the opportunity to do so. Loving people at the soul level does not necessitate putting up with their bad behaviour at the personality level. It does involve respecting them as living souls, however, and treating them decently, as one would oneself wish to be treated. If there's someone I don't love (because I deny their intrinsic worth at the deepest level), then I have a problem which I had better learn to deal with, and the problem is in me, not in them. Personalities can be very negative (due to fear), but the soul is pure.

"Love your neighbor as yourself." That is how to make peace in the World.

That's what I did with MG, and it worked. He ended up liking me, and we got along fine even though we disagreed on a lot of social and political issues. It worked a whole lot better than trading insults and threats with him, and trying to hurt him back...

If you think bad thoughts...bad things happen.
If you think good thoughts...good things happen.

And if you think nothing........nothing happens!!! ;-)

My best wishes to you and your muse...may you find happiness.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 09:14 AM

semantics, romantics, pedantics, sycophantics, sillyantics
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 10:15 AM

Ah, I was wondering when you'd drop in... ;-)

I'm glad to see you're up fairly early. It's good for your health.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 02:08 PM

sonnet 251 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 18/06/05                           MXII

Heart aches with longing for desired touch
Of muse upon my dreams. How can I feel
That I should not call to her? Are fears such,
To give reason to think hopes are not real
I want to hear her voice, but think I might
Learn of more tears I cannot kiss away.
Heart cannot stand not having chance to fight
What worries that might haunt my muse today.
Waiting upon unspoken words, I lose
Far more than truth might risk: I am not there
When she might need me. Could I hope she'll chose
One who by silence thinks to show his care?
And yet, what could I say to change my muse?
I fear I offer what she will refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 02:15 PM

" It does involve respecting them as living souls, however, and treating them decently, as one would oneself wish to be treated."


A pity more here can't have this viewpoint.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 02:19 PM

By God...I'm glad I'm not suffering today in that particular fashion. A couple of weeks ago I was, but I managed to overcome the tendency after struggling with it for a bit. It nearly had me pinned to the mat. In the past week I have met so many beautiful women that it boggles the mind...yet I am still in love with my own particular muse...but free to breathe easy at the same time. Thank God for that.

I also "fear I (may) offer what she will refuse"...but if so, well then, I will be most happy to number her among my true friends and accept what is as it is. Either way is just fine. You can't make someone love you in any particular fashion.

And don't forget, I launched this thread. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 02:42 PM

"I also "fear I (may) offer what she will refuse"...but if so, well then, I will be most happy to number her among my true friends and accept what is as it is. Either way is just fine. You can't make someone love you in any particular fashion."

Agreed, as stated both in my sonnets and comments.




"And don't forget, I launched this thread. ;-) "


We will never forget that, but don't think we will give you the last post!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 04:32 PM

Well, no, of course not! That is reserved for Bill Shatner. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 06:15 PM

Sorry: While in the BS section, this has been a mostly Bill-free zone...


Remember, I don't act, and he doesn't write sonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 07:10 PM

Some claim that he doesn't act either...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 07:18 PM

"I can neither comfirm nor deny..."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 09:47 PM

LH,

Remember my previous quote from RAH:

"All women are beautiful: Some are just more beautiful than others."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 11:30 PM

yes, sorry boys, that was me!
I had some kind of bug in my computer which necessitated some shut downs and transfers and I didn't bother to check to see if i was signed in as myself.

FYI LH...I'm alsways up by 7:00 but don't think that is virtuous or healthy in its own right...expecially when you go to bed at 3:00.

Off to Mariposa tomorrow to pretend I'm a songwriter.
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 05 - 11:43 PM

sonnet 252 of 253 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/06/05                           MXIII

I find hope in my dreams, where lessened fear
Allows more than just words. Should I now plead
To know how to be more, to fulfil need
And give your heart's desires? Would chance appear
To offer shoulder, or brush away tear?
Perhaps my longing is only the greed
To want to see your smile: Should passions feed
Upon desire for one I am not near?
Yet, you touch heart: You are reason to dream
And hope, and try to seek for future bliss.
You are truly the one my soul pursues.
How can I longings for my muse redeem,
To show I want to share more than just kiss?
What would be right for one as I to choose?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 05 - 09:55 AM

sonnet 253 of 253 ( presently) to my muse...


Sonnet 22/06/05                               MXIV

How shall I call you: Love, dear friend, sweet muse?
I would have you as all. But, will you let
My hopes be real, or must you love refuse?
Can I know truth, and not knowing regret?
How shall I hold you, from so far? I long
To keep you close, but should my arms restrain
Even your tears? Would it not still be wrong
To change you in trying to dreams obtain?
How shall I please you, when my thoughts are chill
And words reflect the fears that darken dreams?
What can I offer, not knowing your will,
That might earn at least smile for all my schemes?
You are all heart now needs, but dare I try
To ask for what I fear you will deny?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 05 - 09:57 AM

I guess I will start on the ballads, until I write more sonnets....


Ballad of Dreams

A wizard searches, and spells find
Treasure beyond compare:
Young dryad, with sweet soul and mind,
With dreams that heart might share.

" I find one whose words speak to me
With echoes of my dreams.
Might I hope that this muse might be
Truly as she now seems?"

He offers verse: Reflections of
The thoughts he holds of her.
He tries to tell those dreams of love
That with her words occur.

It is not lips, nor touch, nor eyes
That capture with their fire:
But dream that, from her writing, tries
To wizard's heart inspire.

He asks only what he would give
In pursuit of romance.
He hopes that dreams might someday live
And passion have it's chance.

That muse cares for his words brings joy:
But he prays she knows force
That hope holds. Can he dreams employ,
To follow heart to source?

                                12 May 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 05 - 02:04 PM

Ballad to a Beautiful Muse (2)


I have a muse: A precious maid,
Who causes thought to mull.
For all my lines I have heart paid:
My muse is beautiful.

I seek for words to tell desires,
And rhymes from visions pull.
I find the truth that she inspires:
My muse is beautiful.

I beg for muse to give me hope,
And dream words dutiful.
I cannot without desire cope:
My muse is beautiful.

My dreams fly round, seeking my muse,
Demanding as a gull.
How can I hope for touch refuse?
My muse is beautiful.

The distance, and effects of age,
Cannot my passions lull:
The blood still pounds, and desires rage.
My muse is beautiful.

I hold her only in my mind,
And wrap arms just in wool.
Yet know I know, though heart is blind,
My muse is beautiful.

                                              18 May 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 05 - 02:13 PM

So, 42, how did Mariposa go? It seems to have been a great success by all accounts. I had to be in Cobourg instead, but did get to play a gig there at "The Human Bean" coffeehouse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 05 - 09:20 PM

Ballad of Gems (3)

Would I had means to give muse bright
Tokens of my desire:
Diamonds to sparkle from the light
That all of dreams inspire.

I would send pearls, as smooth as dream,
To rest upon her skin.
Not quite a kiss to heart redeem,
But touch to hopes begin.

She feeds my dreams with her replies:
My dreams would to muse send
Emeralds, jealous of her eyes,
To lesser beauties lend.

Her lips arouse passions: I'd choose
To give a gem of heat:
Ruby, to blush beside my muse,
And brighter fires meet.

I cannot dreams of muse deny:
I wish that I could give
Sapphires to look as stars in sky
That muse midst heaven live.

I offer muse my heart, and hands
To ease all of her aches.
Not that she any gift demands,
But for desires' sakes.

                                                12 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 02:03 PM

Ballad (4)

How shall I reach to hold muse near
When I this distance stay?
What might I do, to vision clear
Of one for whom I pray?

Should I my dreams enjoy, or find
The way to nearer be?
Should I allow desires to blind
All reason, to muse see?

Sweet angel muse, will you not share
The reasons that you smile?
Might I run fingers through your hair,
And longings reconcile?

I will accept all muse might give,
To feelings turn to ink.
I wish only that dreams could live,
And muse of me would think.

I ask that muse would share her soul,
That I might know her heart.
I seek her happiness, as goal,
But hope I might play part.

The hope for future gives me all
That I dare dream desire:
The love of one that to dreams call,
With eyes of dryad's fire.

                                16 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 11:13 PM

Ballad (5)

My dreams of muse are roses, soft,
Sweetly perfumed, to touch
My heart with gentle kisses. Oft
I have in past sought such.

How might I ease the doubts of muse?
What questions do you hold?
How can you my statements refuse
When I would dreams enfold?

My dreams of muse are gems, bright stars
Now captured in your eyes.
There is no flaw that vision mars,
Save that only dream tries.

I have the time to listen, though
All time is not my own:
How can I concern for you show
When dreams remain alone?

I seek desires: To know the dream
That shares your star-filled night.
What hopes will you allow, to seem
To offer vision's sight?

Your smile gives reason to rejoice:
Your words give me desire
To seek for more, but yours is choice
What you of heart inspire.

                                        24 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 07:11 PM

Ballad (6)

Muse bids me love, and my hopes leap
To know her wish is such:
Could I this heart from loving keep,
Though lips do not yet touch?

She feeds my dreams with words of care
And image of her eyes.
How can I not my visions share
With one of heart so wise?

All I desire is sight of smile,
To fill my nights alone
With thought of muse to give heart trial
That I might passions own.

I wish her only joy, that she
Obtain her heart's desire.
Yet, might she forgive hopes that we
Would to embrace conspire?

She holds my future: Can I ask
To hold her dreams in mine?
I know to seek for love is task
My heart cannot decline.

My muse provides the core for dream:
A fire within my soul
That forges heart, and makes life seem
A vision now made whole.

                                                      26 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 11:28 PM

Did I miss the last of the sonnets?
I might have better success with the ballad form.
j

ps. LH Mariposa was very hot and sunny with some fine performances from some Canadian icons; enthusiastic open stagers and some rambunctious young rockers but too much Mary DeKeyser who has the best 'trash' persona ever...i wish I thought it was an act

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:12 PM

Ballad (7)

Wizard always sees muse, in mind,
But seeks to know her heart:
Only in silence is he blind,
In dreams his visions start.

He worries, not because of fear
That she will not be found,
But that he cannot offer cheer
To her pains keep in bound.

No spell he holds will her tears dry
Though he offers his soul:
He cannot his concerns deny,
That her dreams be made whole.

The wizard waits for muse, but schemes
To hold her within arm.
Might he risk heart to chase his dreams,
Or would he bring muse harm?

She is his focus: Dreams converge
Upon her smile, and eyes,
To haunt his longings. Shall he urge
That she his presence prize?

Choice would be clear, could desires rule,
A path for future bliss:
He would muse seek, and be a fool,
To offer his muse kiss.

                                  3 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:13 PM

just go bask a few messages- all 253 appear to be here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 07:05 PM

Ballad (8)

I dream of arms around my muse,
To hold her in the night.
I cannot thought of her refuse:
To love her would be right.

I fear only I can't refrain
From acting on desire:
I hope always to smile retain,
Yet offer passion's fire.

Muse drives me wild with thought of touch
And visions of my dream.
Dare I hope that she wishes such,
That love in her eyes gleam?

I seek to please my muse, and self,
With pleasures, and concern:
I cannot place dreams upon shelf,
Nor from her beauty turn.

I wish I might live dream, and hold
Muse close, and taste her lips.
Drunk with desire, I would be bold,
And of her soul seek sips.

My words are poor reflections of
The vision that heart sees:
Can page hold her that I would love,
One who heart's desire frees?

                                        8 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,The be all and end all of all
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 07:12 PM

I guess I am the last then?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 07:46 PM

nope.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Shakey
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 07:54 PM

I swore I'd never do this, I've seen this post in the list for a long time but i've always ignored it.
Finally I had to have a look, well it took so long to finish arriving that I thought it would be silly not to add something, I know I won't be last but don't respond to my post as I certainly won't be reading this thread again

If there is no response within, say, one hour then I will consider it a little victory. Go on you know you want to.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 09:01 PM

ok, you get a little victory....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Jul 05 - 08:11 AM

Nelson had that problem too.
G

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 05:40 PM

Ballad (9)

Of muse and mage I story tell,
With love, and sweet caress;
That she holds him in woven spell,
And all of his dreams bless.

She was a dryad of the wood,
A sweet and caring maid.
He sought for one that his dreams could
Hold tight, and not hopes fade.

She grew upon him: As the rose,
She wound about his heart.
Far more than lust in old mage grows,
To find in life true Art.

He tries to reach to her, and fold
All spells and power round:
He seeks to keep her safe, and hold
To love he has now found.

Does muse realize power of dream?
She offers smile, and looks
To past sweep away, and redeem
The wisdom in his books.

Mage wonders of she's real: He seeks
To touch vision of fire
That heats passion, and to heart speaks.
She is his one desire.

                                              9 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Jul 05 - 11:06 PM

Ballad (10)

It storms, but mage sees only sun,
And cannot feel this rain:
Thought of his muse has binding spun,
To hold heart and dreams gain.

His dreams shine with reflected light
That muse holds in her eyes.
Mage becomes student, to earn sight
Of smile, and hope of prize.

She is his muse: She owns his soul,
And gives purpose for thought.
Alone, only his dreams are whole,
And hope in vain is sought.

Muse dreams her dreams, and mage must seek
To learn what brings her joy.
His knowledge serves to his hopes speak,
And his own dreams employ.

Sweet, beautiful, kind and caring;
All doubt of Love is gone:
Might mage hope to spend night sharing
A pot of tea, and dawn?

Mage has but heart to give. He sends
Desire to be far more
Than distant voice: Dream of muse mends
All ills, and hopes endure.

                                             10 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 10:13 AM

Friends can be lovers, but how many lovers are truly friends?

What I mean is, if a friend decides to go to Europe for a few months, you don't get worried about it, do you? Nope. You wish them well. If they decide to go out with some other people on Saturday, you don't worry about it.   You figure it'll be great to see them when they eventually return.

And that is the difference between love and attachment. ;-)

Lovers who can truly be friends are not only in love, they are also free.

You're "it".

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 12:04 PM

Does this make me last ? LOL

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 02:01 PM

LH,

I worry about my muse when she is not happy. What she does is not the issue- her happiness is. I have friends and lovers- but as muse she is something beyond that.

A true friend is someone that one would do something for that effects one's self in a negative manner, if it has a positive effect upon the friend.






And GUEST, you are not last.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 04:09 PM

Ballad (11)

Mage weaves a web to his dreams bind
To muse, and her desire.
He does not count his cost, to find
One that will heart inspire.

Image of eyes invites his heart
To fall under her spell:
Her lips his passions feed, and start
To draw desire from shell.

She fills mage with longing, and frees
His soul from past despair:
Could he not love what vision sees,
Or pretend not to care?

He seeks a path to her, to win
The chance to her soul touch.
To not pursue muse would be sin,
To give self not too much.

Muse remains heart's desire: A rose
More perfect than one grown
In garden of his dreams, that shows
More of love than he's known.

Can he hope that she wants his love,
Concern, and constant thought?
In dream, mage has risen above
His fears, and desires wrought.

                                    15 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 06:18 PM

Bruce:

Seek horizontal tutelage, that thou mayst from these tortured couplets
Find surcease and sweet tranquility!


A

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 07:48 PM

Amos,

I find, in thought of muse all I desire:
That concern for her my own dreams inspire.

B

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 07:56 PM

tortured? ALL of my couplets are free to come or go as they wish, and are not constrained, abused, or in any manner "tortured".


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 08:20 PM

Hmmmm... must be genetic, then.



A

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 08:50 PM

A,

My genes are human- What are yours?

B

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 12:13 AM

Oh, mine are human too, I'm sure;
And, often, too surely human.

A

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 12:17 AM

Does this make me last ? LOL

No GUEST - have you thought of trying Viagra?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 09:12 PM

Ballad (12)

Mage seeks of muse an avatar
To make his dreams more real.
Is he a fool, to look so far
For one to his love feel?

She is far more than he deserves,
With soft dreams of her own.
How can he hope his hope muse serves,
When he but dreams have shown?

What might mage offer muse, to fill
Some of her hours with joy?
Might his words show intent he will
Passions of dreams employ?

He cannot his desires ignore,
Although he cannot act.
Apart, he has but dreams: No more
Than hope for what he's lacked.

How can mage other than muse praise
For what dream of her brings?
The thought of her hopes to sky raise,
And desire passion sings.

Has he now found true heart's desire,
And one to share his life?
Can mage stay warm with passion's fire,
And win his muse as wife?

                                 22 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 03:24 AM

Ballad (13)

We seek for happiness, and find
Those souls that are true friends.
We share our hopes, and in each mind
We hope dreams have no ends.

I have found one, with eyes of light,
To make my visions real.
For smile, I would give all, that sight
Might know what my dreams feel.

Your eyes offer the world I seek,
Of care, and sweet concern:
I must be strong- but, were I weak,
I would to travel turn.

You send a kiss, and I desire
To interest on it pay.
You give me dreams, and hopes inspire,
And I must longings say.

I envy pearls, that touch your skin,
And rest upon soft breast.
How might I dream of passions win,
And put all fears to rest?

I would not want to change my muse,
Save to increase your smiles.
You are desire: I would now choose
Only to lessen miles.

                                     27 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 11:10 AM

Ballad (14)

Should mage offer this muse his kiss
In thanks for her sweet smile?
Dare he lips touch? Do his dreams miss
A sign she'd hopes revile?

He offers all to one who cares,
But does she want his heart?
Might dreams be all that mage now shares,
Hopes all that inspire art?

Yet, her eyes offer more than dream:
They show concern, and soul.
The promise of her smile would seem
To make shattered heart whole.

She is far more than center of
Desires, dreams, and thought:
One of the few that mage might love,
She has his passions caught.

Mage is now bound, but does not seek
To break from muse's spell.
Years have made him foolish, or weak:
That he should her hold tell.

True vision sees what is not there:
But what may one day be.
For now, enough that she might care:
Fears do not set heart free.

                                       29 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 05 - 04:10 PM

Ballad (15)

I would not have my muse in tears,
Nor angry at the world:
I'd rather nibble on her ears,
Or hair, 'round fingers twirled.

What does my muse dream of, tonight,
When she closes her eyes?
What might she see, in dreams so bright,
That would my hopes realize?

I know she knows I care: But, dare
I ask that she give sign
That she might want me to love share,
And our dreams intertwine?

I have only my dreams, to see
How I might reach her heart.
Yet, visions cannot tell to me
How I might dreams impart.

Her smile reward enough for verse,
Yet heart wants so much more:
Should I hopes feed, or passions nurse,
And all my fears ignore?

She is one I wish only well,
With eyes that give me dream:
Would words could all my passions tell,
That I might hopes redeem.

                                       02 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:45 PM

Ballad (16)

I would not ever say goodbye
To one who holds my heart.
She is my muse- My soul would die
Before dreams would depart.

What might muse say, to bring a song
To heart, and words to page?
Am I foolish, or is it wrong
To seek to be her mage?

I beg to know her dream, and ask
Muse share desires with me:
Should I be silent, or hopes mask
That I might help dreams be?

She need but smile, and verses spring
To life, under her sun.
She grows my love, and words take wing,
And I have my dreams won.

Within my muse's eyes, I find
All I seek to desire.
Yet, is all of this in my mind,
That only hopes inspire?

I thirst for all of muse I might   
Reach with my dreams, or hold.
I hunger for her touch, and sight:
These dreams alone are cold.

                                        03 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:38 PM

Ballad (17)

My muse is beauty- flower sweet
That blossoms in my heart.
I wish I could these miles defeat,
And with kiss verses start.

I would from passion form my line
And rhyme from her replies.
An epic would from touch refine,
And lyric from her eyes.

Yet, I worship muse from afar,
And ask only her smile.
She offers me enough - A star
To guide dreams, for a while.

It is not easy, to resist
My muse: As moth, I fly:
Heedless of flame, in dream I've kissed,
And satisfied, I die.

Her eyes draw me, and seal my fate:
I cannot from muse flee.
I must be plain, and dreams relate,
And let her hear my plea.

I ask for all I might, but know
I have no claim, nor chance.
I hold but in dream: Yet, dreams show
What I seek in romance.

                                        03 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 02:42 PM

Ballad (18)

Muse is my moon, to light my dreams
With pleasure, and desire:
I seek to hold her, but my schemes
Cannot sweet muse acquire.

Muse is my sun, to light my day,
And make my passions grow.
I turn towards her, and feelings say
Yet cannot her heart know.

Muse is my star, to guide my soul
To find what I now seek.
She offers all I want, as goal,
But is my verse too weak?

Muse is my dream, a precious maid
Whose eyes show me my fate.
She is one for whom verse is made,
To some of hopes relate.

Muse is heart's hope, the image of   
All that I seek, or need.
I find in smile what I might love:
Her words to visions lead.

Muse is my world: The focus, heart,
Of what I care about.
How can I dedicate my art
To her, and not dreams shout?

                                        04 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 05:29 PM

Read any good books lately?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 05:56 PM

I can recommend some if you haven't...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 02:23 PM

Ballad (19)

Sweet angel, muse- A priceless gem
Far more than I can say.
She is unique: My dreams condemn
This mage to her fool play.

I wish I could give muse desire
And fulfill all her dreams.
Thought of her brings my passions fire,
And her smile soul redeems.

A rose each morning, and a kiss
To wake her with sun's rise:
A chance for smile I would not miss,
Nor sight of her sweet eyes.

I would hold muse, and let lips trace
Her neck, and down each arm:
I'd rub her feet, and kiss her face,
And keep always from harm.

She is one I would offer all
Of self, to that smile win.
I need only her wish to fall
In love, and world would spin.

Yet, can I make dreams real? She holds
The key, to dreams unseal:
I know only that desire folds
Future round thoughts I feel.

                                                         10 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 02:26 PM

LH,

My post to you disappeared.


I have read maybe half a dozen good books in the last week or so.

And maybe I can recommend some to you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 02:32 PM

back online...


Ballad (20)

Where have you run to, muse of mine
That I cannot smile see?
How can I hope to words refine
From dream, that verse might be?

Where have you gone, that dreams are blind
To all that heart desires?
I cannot follow: Might hopes find
The light of your eyes' fires?

What will I do, without the thought
Of you seeing my wit?
How will I know if words have caught
Mind's eye, to your dreams fit?

Who else could I dream of, and tell
The world I prize as muse?
You fill my need: You cast a spell
Beyond what my hopes choose.

When will I this soft moonlight share
With one who makes it shine?
How can I dream that you would care
To hold your hand in mine?

Why do I question all? I know
I have no choice in this.
You are my muse: Though my dreams grow,
You decide if we kiss.

                                                13 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 02:29 PM

Ballad (21)

Might mage cast spell to capture muse
And hold her to his heart?
Can dreams be real: How can he use
Desire to form his art?

He has not power to alter fate
Nor win against her will:
For this muse, he would ages wait
That she might his arms fill.

He studies past, to future gain:
He seeks to present change.
If his hopes could her smile obtain   
He might the stars arrange.

Mage sees in muse all that he tries
To find, in all his books.
She is dream in flesh: Her deep eyes
Show wisdom with their looks.

She is his sun, his moon, his stars:
This angel heaven fills.
He sees her light: Only time mars
His hope, with age's ills.

Yet, dreams have power to give mage life
And heal even his heart:
He knows hopes are with desires rife,
But must his passions start.

                                             14 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:25 PM

Ballad (22)

A picture of you forms the song
That echoes in this heart:
A dream of kiss is far too strong
To from verse keep apart.

Thought of you fills my dreams, and lights
Desires as if 'twere day.
Should I deny my wish, that nights
I could with my muse stay?

You give vision to heart, to know
The reasons for desire.
How can words ever feelings show,
When muse is dream, entire?

In you, I find all I now seek,
A muse of quiet strength;
True beauty, and sweet eyes that speak
To lonely soul at length.

All you might ask of me, I'd give
With joy, at thought of smile:
In truth, I find reason to live,
That words hold you a while.

I hold you in my dreams, and feel
Softness of skin, and lips.
But I know that dreams are not real:
The hope for dream now slips.

                                     16 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Aug 05 - 03:29 PM

anybody out there?


Have I achieved lastdom at last?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 09:40 AM

Um, yes and no :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 06:38 PM

Ballad (23)

Bright moon, you pale beside those eyes,
Nor can stars match her smile.
She outshines heaven: Though sun tries,
It is muse who wins trial.

She is my muse: A dryad, rose,
Beauty beyond compare.
Thought of her lights my dreams: Heart knows
No joys save that muse care.

I read, in her words, songs to sound
Within my heart's desire.
Thought of her kiss makes my heart pound;
Of eyes, feeds passion's fire.

I see picture, and want to hold
This woman in my arms.
I dream of eyes, and hope I've told
The power of her charms.

Yet, I awake from dream, and know
Lips will not touch her skin.
Desire does not chance for hopes grow,
Nor can dream true love win.

Beauty alone does not make muse:
Heart must speak to my soul.
I see in her far more, and choose
To make her smile my goal.

                                          21 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 06:58 PM

Ballad (24)

In dreams, I rub your feet, and give
Warm milk, and gentle kiss.
Shall I whisper soft words, to live
In dream what life might miss?

I want to hold you in my arms,
And listen to your heart:
I wish to keep you from all harms
And give you all my art.

How can I soothe your rest, and send
Sweet dreams to you each night?
How can I ease your aches, and lend
My care, that fears take flight?

Might my words bring a smile, in eyes
That light my hopes, and dream?
Can you hear, in my lines, the sighs
Heart gives, when image gleams?

You are my dream, my hope: Desire
Made real, and soft, and dear.
You are true love: You light a fire
That all of past would sear.

Give me some word what I can share
To win you peace of mind:
What might I say to show I care,
How can I sweet dreams find?

                                                 23 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Nevertheless
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 07:14 PM

A picture of you forms the future
That echoes in my chamberpot
My dreams of bliss are far too strong
To from verse cancel blot.

Thought of you fills my nights, and lights
Desires which trample my vestments.
Should I deny thine wish, that nights
I could inhabit testaments?

You give vision to adventure, and incline
The reasons for desire.
How can words ever feelings rust
When muse is dream, entire?

In you, I find all I now seek,
A flagon of draughty ale;
True beauty, and sweet eyes that speak
And lips that oft glow pale.

All you might ask of me, I'd give
With joy, like a fulsome mensch:
In truth, I find reason to live,
For the touch of yon blithesome wench.

I hold you in my dreams, and feel
The rising of lambent declination.
But I know that dreams are not real:
While my fortress exudes lamenations.

And now as the dross doth exceed
And surpass e'en dimensions of Ruth
On my nightstand the night owl he bleeds
For the passions that herald thy truth

No, yet, I must stay and endure
Not to wither in thy love's bright flame
While the ponds are beset and the cure
Of my rhapsody still is in vain

For tis true I'm no quiescent wretch
Whose fretting goes silent, unheard
No! Again, no, my poems attest
To the mighty desire of my word

Therefore listen, oh, listen, my muse!
And turn not from this heart in its need
If my visions be not to amuse
Then turn oft, give them thought, and them heed

Oh, yes, I am lost in thy love
And for this I could go on and on
On and on, on and on, past the dusk, past the dawn,
As complete as your hand in your glove

I rave, and I rant, and I roar
I whisper, I plead, and I crave
Do not spurn this poor heart that adores!
For tis thus I would end in my grave

There to moulder and slowly decay
Just a memory that flickers and fades
Just a vanishing song, midst the impatient throng
Where my muse my sad heart did waylay!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 07:49 PM

Sorry, Nevertheless...

You have failed to consistantly meet the structure or rhyme... Either accept that structure, or not- the partial , irregular construction is not a poem.

A
B
A
B

The A lines are quadreameter, the B lines are trimeter. ( iambic, if you care...)

Now, care to try again?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Neverthless
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:24 PM

What? Are we in some sort of competition here? I'm not sure I have the time for that. I mean, what is it worth to you?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:37 PM

If one chooses to satorize another's work, the requirements are to use the same form. If you were just plagerizing, then feel free- but your attempt does not meet any form of lyrical verse. I could pound on the strings of a guitar- but I would not then record the dissonance and put it out in public. Maybe you would.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:40 PM

Ballad (25)

A cup of tea with muse, a fire
Of scented wood, and time
To whisper dreams that she inspire:
Are such desires crime?

My muse's eyes light up the night,
And dream of her is all
I care about: But is it right
To for such beauty fall?

I long to run fingers through hair
And brush her lips with mine.
I want to show how much I care
And of desires give sign.

I overreach, to seek to touch
This one, who molds my heart.
How can I dare hope to dreams clutch,
And not with my soul part?

But soul is a small price to give
For such as I behold:
How can I let my passions live,
And not in arms enfold?

I dream, but hold only desires;
For this beautiful maid
Who all of dream in me inspires:
My debt cannot be paid.

                      30 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Nevertheless
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:41 PM

Look, buddy, if I wanted to "satorize" your work, I would, but it's not worth the trouble. If I wrote pathetic treacly dross like you do, I wouldn't risk criticizing other people's poetic efforts in public. Have you ever considered taking up a real hobby? Like knitting little hats and vests for homeless dogs?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:46 PM

"Look, buddy, if I wanted to "satorize" your work, I would, but it's not worth the trouble."

Than obviously you are too incompetent to even think up your own words. Way too much of what you write is obviously making fun of my verse. So, are you satorizing, or just not able to think for yourself.



"If I wrote pathetic treacly dross like you do, I wouldn't risk criticizing other people's poetic efforts in public."

If you don't like my verse, don't read it. I find it odd that so many here DEMAND that others not have the freedom to write that they seem to take advantage of, themselves. There is at least one person that I know of who likes my verse- I doubt if you couls say the same.


"Have you ever considered taking up a real hobby? Like knitting little hats and vests for homeless dogs? "

Why? is that the best that YOU are able to do vis-a-vis creativity?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:51 PM

anyway, I got post 2400.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Nevertheless
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 08:57 PM

Ha! As if I care about that. Are you going to go for post 2500 as well? Look, the word is "satirize", not "satorize", okay? You're right, I was making fun of your poetry. It cries out to be made fun of, like a Barry Manilow greatest hits album or a Survivor episode. Now don't get me wrong, Manilow has talent. No doubt about it. The question is, do you? The jury is still out on that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 10:20 PM

As I have said, it makes at least one person happy. Is there something more than that to aim at?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 10:24 PM

Ballad (26)

I thank my muse for her beauty
That she shares in the night.
Can I let my desires run free
That I might hold her tight?

Her eyes shame stars, that cannot shine
With half the light of hers.
How can I give my muse a sign
Of what that sparkle stirs?

Those lips call out to me, to pull
My own to her command.
She has the power to make dream full
Of what my hopes demand.

I see in face what I desire,
Sweet vision of delight:
This image of her dreams require
To keep my hopes in sight.

I long to stroke her hair, and feel
Soft touch, against my skin.
Yet, should I dare to hopes reveal,
When dreams should not begin?

I cannot claim muse for my own,
And all hopes of love miss:
Might I pray that my words have shown
Enough, to earn one kiss?

                                              02 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Aug 05 - 10:25 PM

Ballad (27)

Might muse send feather to be quill,
Pulled from her angel wings?
How can I wait, when my dreams spill
From soul and my heart's strings?

Might I beg token, that heart knows
She thinks of me, at times?
How can I ask, when her smile shows
She cares at least for rhymes?

Is there a reason I should think
I'll hold her in my arms?
Have I the chance to from lips drink,
Or drown in her eyes' charms?

She is my muse- A dryad, rare
Beyond belief, but real.
How can I say how much I care,
When dreams are all I feel?

I want far more than words might earn,
To share the dawn, and night.
Yet, should I from my passions turn,
And think to hold dreams tight?

I offer all, but know I give
Only what muse permits.
I ask only that dreams might live,
And hope into heart fits.

                                       05 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Aug 05 - 01:50 PM

Ballad (28)

This dryad remains in my heart,
A muse of rare degree.
How can I keep verses from start
When in heart I smile see?

Her eyes send visions to my mind,
That heart might some hope hold.
How could I ever the words find
To say what smile has told?

In dream, I feel her cheek, and taste
A tear, alone and sweet:
She weeps with joy. Even in haste,
My dreams would her wish meet.

A quiet voice whispers my dream
Upon the page, to rest.
Can my soft words tell what would seem
To be in kiss told best?

My muse is more than I can write:
She is love, life, and soul.
In her I find future, so bright,
That sun is like dark coal.

I do not see my path, but Fate
Will take me where it will.
I can but content of heart state,
For her smile my dreams fill.

                                              05 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Aug 05 - 09:03 PM

Ballad (29)

Mage reaches out, and tries to hold
His muse, within his arms.
Will she run from his passions told,
Or willingly share charms?

How can he keep her safe, but free
To be herself? He weeps
To think he might change smile, or be
Less than she needs, or keeps.

He wants only her happiness,
But knows not how to find
The means to her desires address,
And not her spirit bind.

All that he knows seems pointless: Vain
Scribbling upon the page.
He cannot from his books obtain
Those dreams, that make him mage.

Only his muse can fill his mind
With light, and bring to life
The future that his visions find:
Without, he finds but strife.

He knows he never had a choice,
That she is of a plane
Above his grasp. He has no voice
To speak: His dreams must reign.

                                       10 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 03:14 PM

Ballad (30)

I would not let muse drift away
When I might hold her tight.
What can I do, to have her say
Her dreams will be all right?

How might I give her dreams true life,
That she might pleasures share?
What can I send, to ease that strife,
And show how much I care?

Should I not try to offer cheer,
Or her smile seek to find?
What can I say, to share her fear,
And hug her, within mind?

What dreams would bring my muse some rest,
To let her wake with smile?
What is the potion that is best
To give sleep, for a while?

Might I find, at the bottom of
A cup, some leaves to read
The future, and desires? Is love
Seen there, for heart to heed?

I know my wish, but should I try
To have my muse make choice?
I'd rather have smile, and in eye
See reasons to rejoice.

                                    26 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:18 PM

Ballad (31)

What would you have me do, sweet muse,
To earn even one kiss?
Just thought of smile can dreams confuse,
And your eyes give heart bliss.

Shall I tell you of my desires,
Or some of dreams relate?
Might I send words that hope inspires.
To tell of longed-for fate?

All I require is smile, to lend
The passion to my lines.
Thoughts of your eyes my sorrows mend,
Of lips future refines.

You are my heart's desire, sweet rose,
The light to guide my soul.
Though season turns, and hints of snow,
Heart remains warm, and whole.

What can I give to show the hold
The image of you wields?
Mere words are poor reflections, cold,
Of dreams that my hope yields.

I long to hold you, though I know
I need not touch to care.
Heart remains your, and my dreams show
Reasons I would souls share.

                                          11 Oct. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:31 PM

In hopes of rescuing this once proud thread from expiring in a morass of romantic dreck, I am going to start posting Bob Dylan lrics here.

Ahem!

Brownsville Girl

Well, there was this movie I seen one time,
About a man riding 'cross the desert and it starred Gregory Peck.
He was shot down by a hungry kid trying to make a name for himself.
The townspeople wanted to crush that kid down and string him up by the neck.

Well, the marshal, now he beat that kid to a bloody pulp
as the dying gunfighter lay in the sun and gasped for his last breath.
Turn him loose, let him go, let him say he outdrew me fair and square,
I want him to feel what it's like to every moment face his death.

Well, I keep seeing this stuff and it just comes a-rolling in
And you know it blows right through me like a ball and chain.
You know I can't believe we've lived so long and are still so far apart.
The memory of you keeps callin' after me like a rollin' train.

I can still see the day that you came to me on the painted desert
In your busted down Ford and your platform heels
I could never figure out why you chose that particular place to meet
Ah, but you were right. It was perfect as I got in behind the wheel.

Well, we drove that car all night into San Anton'
And we slept near the Alamo, your skin was so tender and soft.
Way down in Mexico you went out to find a doctor and you never came back.
I would have gone on after you but I didn't feel like letting my head get blown off.

Well, we're drivin' this car and the sun is comin' up over the Rockies,
Now I know she ain't you but she's here and she's got that dark rhythm in her soul.
But I'm too over the edge and I ain't in the mood anymore to remember the times when I was your only man
And she don't want to remind me. She knows this car would go out of control.

Brownsville girl with your Brownsville curls, teeth like pearls shining like the moon above
Brownsville girl, show me all around the world, Brownsville girl, you're my honey love.

Well, we crossed the panhandle and then we headed towards Amarillo
We pulled up where Henry Porter used to live. He owned a wreckin' lot outside of town about a mile.
Ruby was in the backyard hanging clothes, she had her red hair tied back. She saw us come rolling up in a trail of dust.
She said, "Henry ain't here but you can come on in, he'll be back in a little while."

Then she told us how times were tough and about how she was thinkin' of bummin' a ride back to where she started.
But ya know, she changed the subject every time money came up.
She said, "Welcome to the land of the living dead." You could tell she was so broken-hearted.
She said, "Even the swap meets around here are getting pretty corrupt."

"How far are y'all going?" Ruby asked us with a sigh.
"We're going all the way 'til the wheels fall off and burn,
'Til the sun peels the paint and the seat covers fade and the water moccasin dies."
Ruby just smiled and said, "Ah, you know some babies never learn."

Something about that movie though, well I just can't get it out of my head
But I can't remember why I was in it or what part I was supposed to play.
All I remember about it was Gregory Peck and the way people moved
And a lot of them seemed to be lookin' my way.

Brownsville girl with your Brownsville curls, teeth like pearls shining like the moon above
Brownsville girl, show me all around the world, Brownsville girl, you're my honey love.

Well, they were looking for somebody with a pompadour.
I was crossin' the street when shots rang out.
I didn't know whether to duck or to run, so I ran.
"We got him cornered in the churchyard," I heard somebody shout.

Well, you saw my picture in the Corpus Christi Tribune. Underneath it, it said, "A man with no alibi."
You went out on a limb to testify for me, you said I was with you.
Then when I saw you break down in front of the judge and cry real tears,
It was the best acting I saw anybody do.

Now I've always been the kind of person that doesn't like to trespass but sometimes you just find yourself over the line.
Oh if there's an original thought out there, I could use it right now.
You know, I feel pretty good, but that ain't sayin' much. I could feel a whole lot better,
If you were just here by my side to show me how.

Well, I'm standin' in line in the rain to see a movie starring Gregory Peck,
Yeah, but you know it's not the one that I had in mind.
He's got a new one out now, I don't even know what it's about
But I'll see him in anything so I'll stand in line.

Brownsville girl with your Brownsville curls, teeth like pearls shining like the moon above
Brownsville girl, show me all around the world, Brownsville girl, you're my honey love.

You know, it's funny how things never turn out the way you had 'em planned.
The only thing we knew for sure about Henry Porter is that his name wasn't Henry Porter.
And you know there was somethin' about you baby that I liked that was always too good for this world
Just like you always said there was something about me you liked that I left behind in the French Quarter.

Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than people who are most content.
I don't have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I'm gone.
You always said people don't do what they believe in, they just do what's most convenient, then they repent.
And I always said, "Hang on to me, baby, and let's hope that the roof stays on."

There was a movie I seen one time, I think I sat through it twice.
I don't remember who I was or where I was bound.
All I remember about it was it starred Gregory Peck, he wore a gun and he was shot in the back.
Seems like a long time ago, long before the stars were torn down.

Brownsville girl with your Brownsville curls, teeth like pearls shining like the moon above
Brownsville girl, show me all around the world, Brownsville girl, you're my honey love.



Copyright © 1986 Special Rider Music

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:37 PM

LH,

"a morass of romantic dreck"?


Brownsville girl with your Brownsville curls, teeth like pearls shining like the moon above
Brownsville girl, show me all around the world, Brownsville girl, you're my honey love.


At least I write my own...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:48 PM

So do I. But I'd rather bury you in Dylan. ;-)

Ahem!

Clean-Cut Kid

Everybody wants to know why he couldn't adjust
Adjust to what, a dream that bust?

He was a clean-cut kid
But they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

They said what's up is down, they said what isn't is
They put ideas in his head he thought were his

He was a clean-cut kid
But they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

He was on the baseball team, he was in the marching band
When he was ten years old he had a watermelon stand

He was a clean-cut kid
But they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

He went to church on Sunday, he was a Boy Scout
For his friends he would turn his pockets inside out

He was a clean-cut kid
But they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

They said, "Listen boy, you're just a pup"
They sent him to a napalm health spa to shape up

They gave him dope to smoke, drinks and pills,
A jeep to drive, blood to spill

They said "Congratulations, you got what it takes"
They sent him back into the rat race without any brakes

He was a clean-cut kid
But they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

He bought the American dream but it put him in debt
The only game he could play was Russian roulette

He drank Coca-Cola, he was eating Wonder Bread,
Ate Burger Kings, he was well fed

He went to Hollywood to see Peter O'Toole
He stole a Rolls Royce and drove it in a swimming pool

They took a clean-cut kid
And they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

He could've sold insurance, owned a restaurant or bar
Could've been an accountant or a tennis star

He was wearing boxing gloves, took a dive one day
Off the Golden Gate Bridge into China Bay

His mama walks the floor, his daddy weeps and moans
They gotta sleep together in a home they don't own

They took a clean-cut kid
And they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did

Well, everybody's asking why he couldn't adjust
All he ever wanted was somebody to trust

They took his head and turned it inside out
He never did know what it was all about

He had a steady job, he joined the choir
He never did plan to walk the high wire

They took a clean-cut kid
And they made a killer out of him,
That's what they did



Copyright © 1985 Special Rider Music

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:52 PM

Ballad (32)

Tell me, sweet muse, what you desire,
That I may find a way
To give you moon, or stars, or fire
That would warm soul today.

Give me some quest, or set me goal,
To prove how much I care.
Let me show just how deep in soul
You've touched, that I love dare.

Let laughter warm me, and your eyes
Provide reason to live.
Share your dreams with me, and make wise
One who would knowledge give.

Might I dream of my arms around
Treasure beyond mere gold?
Can I hope that I now have found
A part of heart to hold?

All I seek in visions I find
In what I see of you.
All I dream of within my mind
Is to your sweet soul view.

Send me a token of concern,
That hope is not in vain:
Send me your dream, that I might earn
That you my muse remain.

                                  21 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:53 PM

Ballad (33)

With dancing leaves beneath his feet,
A mage treads chill, and dark.
His thoughts on muse, his dreams hopes meet
In light that her eyes spark.

She remains beyond reach of arms,
Yet held within his heart.
A dream, or real? This vision's charms
Offer far more than Art.

Mage cannot from path turn aside,
Nor fail to for muse wait.
He sees her, with eyes open wide,
And knows he's found his fate.

Muse is more than she seems- Both source
And focus of his lines.
She is sweet maid, who holds the force
Of Love, and heart confines.

He cannot ask that she remain,
Nor that he visit make:
But though he does not his hopes gain,
She all of dreams awake.

With stars as witness, Mage declares
He has found his desire:
This muse, whose smile his heart repairs,
And eyes his soul inspires.

                                          24 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:54 PM

Ballad (34)

Mage offers muse fair chains to bind,
With silver and with gold,
His heart, to dreams of her, and find
What he wishes to hold.

Around her wrist one length might go
To remind when she writes:
The other touching neck to show
Where dream has set hope's sights.

He cannot change: He needs to send
Some token of his heart.
Far more would not his dreams defend,
Though he would with all part.

She is his muse, his heart's desires
Made real and brought to earth.
When thought of thought of smile inspires,
How can he send her worth?

All mage can do is dream, and seek
To tell what his hopes see.
He does not kiss, nor hear her speak;
Still, he would not heart free.

She gives him vision, and the light
To show what time might bring:
A quiet talk, a star-lit night,
And chance to hear muse sing.

                                             04 Nov. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:56 PM

Desolation Row

They're selling postcards of the hanging
They're painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They've got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they're restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row

Cinderella, she seems so easy
"It takes one to know one," she smiles
And puts her hands in her back pockets
Bette Davis style
And in comes Romeo, he's moaning
"You Belong to Me I Believe"
And someone says," You're in the wrong place, my friend
You better leave"
And the only sound that's left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row

Now the moon is almost hidden
The stars are beginning to hide
The fortunetelling lady
Has even taken all her things inside
All except for Cain and Abel
And the hunchback of Notre Dame
Everybody is making love
Or else expecting rain
And the Good Samaritan, he's dressing
He's getting ready for the show
He's going to the carnival tonight
On Desolation Row

Now Ophelia, she's 'neath the window
For her I feel so afraid
On her twenty-second birthday
She already is an old maid

To her, death is quite romantic
She wears an iron vest
Her profession's her religion
Her sin is her lifelessness
And though her eyes are fixed upon
Noah's great rainbow
She spends her time peeking
Into Desolation Row

Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in a trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
With his friend, a jealous monk
He looked so immaculately frightful
As he bummed a cigarette
Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet
Now you would not think to look at him
But he was famous long ago
For playing the electric violin
On Desolation Row

Dr. Filth, he keeps his world
Inside of a leather cup
But all his sexless patients
They're trying to blow it up
Now his nurse, some local loser
She's in charge of the cyanide hole
And she also keeps the cards that read
"Have Mercy on His Soul"
They all play on penny whistles
You can hear them blow
If you lean your head out far enough
From Desolation Row

Across the street they've nailed the curtains
They're getting ready for the feast
The Phantom of the Opera
A perfect image of a priest
They're spoonfeeding Casanova
To get him to feel more assured
Then they'll kill him with self-confidence
After poisoning him with words

And the Phantom's shouting to skinny girls
"Get Outa Here If You Don't Know
Casanova is just being punished for going
To Desolation Row"

Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To Desolation Row

Praise be to Nero's Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody's shouting
"Which Side Are You On?"
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea
Where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much
About Desolation Row

Yes, I received your letter yesterday
(About the time the door knob broke)
When you asked how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke?
All these people that you mention
Yes, I know them, they're quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name
Right now I can't read too good
Don't send me no more letters no
Not unless you mail them
From Desolation Row



Copyright © 1965; renewed 1993 Special Rider Music

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 05:57 PM

Ring Them Bells

Ring them bells, ye heathen
From the city that dreams,
Ring them bells from the sanctuaries
Cross the valleys and streams,
For they're deep and they're wide
And the world's on its side
And time is running backwards
And so is the bride.

Ring them bells St. Peter
Where the four winds blow,
Ring them bells with an iron hand
So the people will know.
Oh it's rush hour now
On the wheel and the plow
And the sun is going down
Upon the sacred cow.

Ring them bells Sweet Martha,
For the poor man's son,
Ring them bells so the world will know
That God is one.
Oh the shepherd is asleep
Where the willows weep
And the mountains are filled
With lost sheep.

Ring them bells for the blind and the deaf,
Ring them bells for all of us who are left,
Ring them bells for the chosen few
Who will judge the many when the game is through.
Ring them bells, for the time that flies,
For the child that cries
When innocence dies.

Ring them bells St. Catherine
From the top of the room,
Ring them from the fortress
For the lilies that bloom.
Oh the lines are long
And the fighting is strong
And they're breaking down the distance
Between right and wrong.



Copyright © 1989 Special Rider Music

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:06 PM

only six more ballads and I can start posting the sonnets again... LOTS more to go.


Ballad (35)

Can season give me gift, to win
The chance to visit muse?
Should I hope to desires pin
On what friend's friend might choose?

I cannot ignore even chance
To share more than these lines.
I want to see stars in eyes dance,
And seek your hopes' designs.

I do not sleep, for dreams of you
That fill the cold and dark.
My visions warm, yet can't renew
The fire that your words spark.

Snow covers all, and offers chill
But solitary sight.
All stands alone: Hope cannot fill
This monochrome, cold night.

Yet, I still look to dream, and find
The light to guide my way:
You give to soul your smile, to bind
My heart to future day.

My angel sweet, my muse divine,
How can I your words earn?
I would give all to make you mine:
With you, my hopes return.

                                  06 Dec. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:07 PM

Ballad (36)

How might I cheer my muse, and bring
A smile to her sweet lips?
Shall I hope that my words might sing
Vision that her dream sips?

How can I ease concerns, or soothe
The ache of work, or heart?
Can I the roughness of world smooth
Or journeys to joy chart?

I do not know her present needs:
I simply know I care.
How can words that she only reads
Give comfort, or heart share?

Shall I whisper my love, and send
A volume of request?
Or do my pleas annoy, and lend
A sadness to her breast?

I long to wrap her in my arms,
And all of sorrow steal.
Yet, I must fear: Do hopes lend harms
To vision now made real?

She is heart's guide, but might I show
A path, to desires find?
I cannot ask for more, or know
What hopes she keeps in mind.

                                                   17 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:08 PM

Ballad (37)

Is mage now worthy of his muse?
How can he know, for sure?
His efforts cannot questions lose,
Nor hopes his dreams assure.

He spends dark nights alone and cold,
In study, seeking wit.
He finds no spell to her heart hold,
Nor words to feelings fit.

All he can do is wait, and see
If he has earned her smile:
He wonders if muse might agree
To share the night a while.

He sees the moon, but knows it's glow
Reflects but her dreams' light:
The stars are gems that serve to show
That muse shares beauty's sight.

Can he place heart aside, and learn
All that his muse desires?
Can mind away from passions turn,
And think bare fact inspires?

She is far more than visions know,
And all that mage would need.
Yet, should he let his passions grow,
And not know where hopes lead?

                                       18 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:12 PM

Ballad (38)

Might mage try to heal muse's heart
And give reason to smile?
Can he hope to from waiting part,
To place his dreams on trial?

He offers all to one who gives
The focus of his thought.
But, can he think that his dreams lives,
Or that hopes might be caught?

Mage sends muse tokens: Books, to show
That page past dreams preserve.
Will future some of his hopes know,
That words might praise deserve?

In dreaming, does he seek the source
Of his desire, or just
Let his emotions set the course,
And only passions trust?

Mage reaches out to muse, to hold
A part of heaven's light.
Yet, are his dreams now wise, or bold
To reach for one so bright?

All mage can know is that he seeks
One who touches his soul.
He cares not for the cost: Hope speaks,
And dream makes his heart whole.
                                                    19 Jan. 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:12 PM

Ballad (39)

Far more than questions fill my mind,
When with my muse I speak:
To her sweet charms I am not blind:
Only resolve is weak.

How can I tell her all I seek,
When she is beyond touch?
How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?

Perhaps I care too much, to think
I might her tears remove.
Yet am I fool, to our dreams link
That she might hopes approve?

I do not want to make concern
An act in verse's play:
I need to show that I would earn
All of love, and friend stay.

Yet, can I be more than a fool,
To ask without the chance
To know if she might think me cruel
To try to win romance?

I cannot help but feel desire
Though cannot taste her lips.
Her words, and dreams burn soul like fire,
And passion my heart strips.

                                                    03 Nov 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:13 PM

Ballad (40)

Sweet muse, I value all your dreams.
How can I hope to say
How much your love is worth? It seems
Far more than words can pay.

Yet, I must try: You need to know
The value of your smile.
You are sweet muse, and to heart show
Hope enough to beguile.

The spells you cast, feelings from soul,
Guide me to heart's desires:
A whisper, smile, a dream; The whole
Of my true muse inspires.

Might caring arms in safty hold,
To give you chance for rest?
I remain yours: Longings enfold
A hope I might dreams test?

I would not walk away: I'd try
To pick you up, and make
My muse complete. Might I know why
You fear to concern take?

How might I future form, to build
As you wish it to be?
How can I keep your night-time filled
With stars, for you to see?

                                              23 March 2005

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:16 PM

Are you writing these as you go, or copying them off a databank? If it's the former, you rival McGonagall!

The Mighty Quinn

Ev'rybody's building the big ships and the boats,
Some are building monuments,
Others, jotting down notes,
Ev'rybody's in despair,
Ev'ry girl and boy
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Ev'rybody's gonna jump for joy.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet,
But guarding fumes and making haste,
It ain't my cup of meat.
Ev'rybody's 'neath the trees,
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
All the pigeons gonna run to him.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

A cat's meow and a cow's moo, I can recite 'em all,
Just tell me where it hurts yuh, honey,
And I'll tell you who to call.
Nobody can get no sleep,
There's someone on ev'ryone's toes
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Ev'rybody's gonna wanna doze.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:17 PM

sonnet 254 of 257 to my muse...



Sonnet 16/07/05                              MXV

I cannot stand this silence: Dare I try
To tell how much I need her smile? I ache,
Knowing I cannot give the reason why
I have not will to call and silence break.
I fear I do not find enough, in dream,
Of hope and future: Should I think I hold
A cure for her concerns? Would love redeem
Dark anxious nights, or are my dreams too bold?
Yet, can my heart survive not hearing muse,
Or will I dreamless sleep? No light appears
Without her: I am blind, and doubts confuse
My thoughts. How can I bear having these fears?
I know I should not dream, nor seek desires,
But for chance of her smile soul would brave fires.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:26 PM

Queen Jane Approximately

When your mother sends back all your invitations
And your father to your sister he explains
That you're tired of yourself and all of your creations
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?

Now when all of the flower ladies want back what they have lent you
And the smell of their roses does not remain
And all of your children start to resent you
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?

Now when all the clowns that you have commissioned
Have died in battle or in vain
And you're sick of all this repetition
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?

When all of your advisers heave their plastic
At your feet to convince you of your pain
Trying to prove that your conclusions should be more drastic
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?

Now when all the bandits that you turned your other cheek to
All lay down their bandanas and complain
And you want somebody you don't have to speak to
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?



Copyright © 1965; renewed 1993 Special Rider Music

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:41 PM

sonnet 255 of 257 to my muse...


Sonnet 22/07/05                               MXVI

I see a bright clear moon, and think of her
And how I value smile. What can I give
To show how much I miss her? Does light stir
Feelings I should not have? Cannot dreams live?
Soft shadows fill the night: How might I find
Vision without her eyes' bright light? Moon shines,
But gives no light to soul. My heart is blind
Without the chance to watch her read my lines.
I hold what I might of her: If just tears,
I shall accept the sorrow. Heart must wait
To win true love, when hopes cannot fight fears
That happiness is gone, and dreams too late.
Under full moon, I dream of muse, and see
Enough of hope to want to to her flee.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:42 PM

sonnet 256 of 257 to my muse...


Sonnet 24/07/05                            MXVII

When vision does not let me see a way
To reach to her, and hold her in arms, tight
Against dark night and worry, should I stay
Inside these dreams, without hope for love's light?
I cannot keep from caring: Am I fool,
To let hope live? Her eyes have power, to fill
Dreams with her light, heart with desire, to rule
Over my thoughts. I cannot think this ill.
Is there a reason dream should fade, or heart
Alter intent? She is my muse, of rare
Degree: Thought of her feeds my soul, and art.
How can I not for such a woman care?
She is far more than beauty I desire:
She is the reason soul feels true love's fire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:43 PM

sonnet 257 of 257 to my muse...



Sonnet 01/08/05                            MXVIII

Someday I will find words worthy of eyes,
To show the world what this muse means to me:
Until then, I must pretend to be wise,
And let her smile fill dreams, and nights to be.
Someday I will find time enough to give
All the concern that she deserves. Today,
I long for far more than I dare to live:
How can she in more than just my dreams stay?
Someday I will find future I might share
With one who fills my present. Is there chance
I might realize my dreams? Will my muse care
That she remains the focus of romance?
Someday might some day find me, but until,
I shall let dream of muse all of heart fill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:45 PM

and now...


Sonnet 1 of 1018


                Sonnet 05/12/73                                I

                When shall I see you, dearest friend of mine,
                Who has my heart within your lovely hands?
                What shall I do without your presence fine,
                More beautiful than those from foreign lands?
                And yet, it seems your ivory hands have dropped
                My heart upon the ground: Nothing's left of me;
                    And yet, is it really true, could it be
                That one as you rejects my worldly ways
                For greater things, thoughts on a higher plane?
                My soul is hidden, as within a haze
                Of tears, the blood of my love's dead remains.
                Why are you not here with me; What could I
                Have done to deserve this fate, as if to die?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:52 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:52 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:52 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:53 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:53 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:54 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:55 PM

And furthermore...flip off!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:55 PM

And I mean that!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:56 PM

sonnet 2 of 1018...


                 Sonnet 06/12/73        To an Angel's Child        II

                Love is like a summer flower; wind-blown
                Petals, frost-thin, fragile, enveloping,
                Enclosing hearts with such pleasures as known
                Only to angels, who joyfully sing
                Out their souls. But earthly mortals cannot
                Fully comprehend such abstract ideals,
                Being here only now, so soon to rot
                Away, like old leaves: We only can feel
                The human thoughts of pride and greed, not love,
                Since love is the total devotion for
                A single soul, for which we look above.
                For we may only look, as nothing more
                Than looks, such as angels' songs and love true,
                Can penetrate to earth, except to you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:56 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:57 PM

sonnet 3 of 1018...


                Sonnet 12/12/73                               III

                The stars, as diamond dust on velvet sky,
                Gems of heaven, which I would like to set
                Within her raven hair, and I would let
                These lesser gems be settings for her eyes.
                And heaven's songs of joy, they are but sighs
                Against the sound, after our lips have met,
                Of her breath; the scent of skin, just slightly wet,
                Makes flowers' perfumes seem on her but lies.


                I cannot write of all my total love
                For only her; the words are never here;
                They do not say the thoughts within my soul.
                There are no words for this, even above.
                I do not despair, I can only fear
                That she will never know what made me whole.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:58 PM

sonnet 4 of 1018...


                Sonnet 14/12/73                                IV

                The golden glow, after an autumn rain,
                Of sunlight, on the withering, dying grass,
                Is mellow, beautiful, yet like a strain
                Of music, ending some celestial mass.
                The ruby glow, after the twilight sun
                Has dipped below the far horizon line,
                Is fiery, majestic, yet is as one
                With the ruddy glow of some well-aged wine.
                The pearl-gray glow, after the moon is up,
                Is eldritch in intensity, but meaningful;
                Not foretelling death within its silver light,
                But giving lovers light by which they sup
                On life lightly together, with love full.
                They live for now, with love against the night.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 06:59 PM

sonnet 5 of 1018...


                Sonnet 14/12/73        Chance Encounter        V

                My soul as distant as the clouds above,
                I watch the crowds, and then, without a stir,
                The halls are empty. Could it be, is it her
                Presence that brings back memories of her love,
                That sweet, if only temporary love?
                Is it, then, so much akin to flowers,
                To bloom each spring, only in fall to slumber?
                Was it her fate to cause my soul to move?
                Is there no escape from it? Can I live
                Alone, with not a friend to keep me warm;
                Without her love, from which my soul derives?
                Is my soul then but calm before the storm?
                Will I never be free of her in thought?
                Where is that peace of soul that I have sought?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 05 - 07:00 PM

sonnet 6 of 1018...


                Sonnet 16/12/73                                VI

                I can't imagine life without her love;
                Myself alone, sitting alone, hopeless.
                My love is here, but many parts thereof
                Are weakened, linked to her, not here, no less.
                I can't imagine life without her smile,
                Never again to see her angelic face.
                There is no beauty left to this world, while
                Here alone I sit, as if in disgrace.
                I can't imagine life without her thoughts
                To bring me back, out of the black-souled pit:
                That all is vanity and comes to naught
                Would I believe, without our thoughts to knit.
                My life means nothing without her love to share.
                Where can I find her? Where can she be? Where?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 10:44 AM

You poor soul...

Here's my take on it:

I can imagine life without her love...it would be just like last week. ;-)

Myself alone, enjoying my music, models, books, and friends...
My love is here, right inside my own heart
Strong and secure, linked to her, because we are one in Spirit.
I can't imagine life without her smile, because it lives in my consciousness, regardless of where she is.
I see her angelic face in my mind's eye.
The world is full of beauty. She is just one facet of that.
I'm a lucky guy.
My life means everything to me, whether or not I have her.
Where can she be? Probably where she wants to be, and that's good.
I love her, so I want her to be happy.
Maybe it would make her happy to be elsewhere? With someone else?
If so, I will support that, because her happiness is my happiness, and that means I free her to be and do exactly what she wants, with whom she wants.

This is freedom for both. Love imparts freedom, not bondage.

(the above is NOT a poem, it's a statement)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 02:09 PM

LH, No arguement.


"I see her angelic face in my mind's eye.
......
I'm a lucky guy.
.....
I love her, so I want her to be happy.
Maybe it would make her happy to be elsewhere? With someone else?
If so, I will support that, because her happiness is my happiness, and that means I free her to be and do exactly what she wants, with whom she wants.

This is freedom for both. Love imparts freedom, not bondage."


Isn't this exactly what I have said, many times, in my sonnets to my muse?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 02:25 PM

Yup, probably is. I was just responding to that very last poem you posted at 11 Aug 05 - 07:00 PM. I remember feeling like that a lot. It's like being in hell.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 02:29 PM

Please note the date and year... December of 1973.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 02:34 PM

Aha! Well, pardon me for not noticing that...

I was probably even worse than that in '73. I could've written a PHD in unrequited love and romantic despair. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Aug 05 - 02:36 PM

no problem.

Here is the sonnet from last night/this morning ( 1st poem posted here today)


Sonnet 12/08/05                      MXIX

Muse is both judge and jury: Smiles decide
The worth of my endeavors, and my dreams.
All I say cannot my longings confide,
That I see hope only in her eyes' gleams.
How can I find the means to dreams repay,
To reflect shadow of the light dreams give?
I would heart share: But can I hope to stay
Under her spell, when only my dreams live?
I want more than my dreams: I want to know
That she is happy. Should I try to hold,
Or offer kiss? Dare I let my hopes grow,
When I have not my muse's dreams been told?
Is there even a chance that I might lift
The cloud that haunts muse, with my own heart's gift?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 06:27 PM

so, I win?





8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 06:05 AM

Nope :-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 01:21 PM

are you sure?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 08:42 AM

Yep!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 01:01 PM

Well, I will have to agree to disagree with you...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 10:50 AM

And I have to agree to disagree to agree to disagree with you - or something like that :-)

Meanwhile, here is a little haiku to keep us wondering:

Why are we all here?
Who will be last in this thread?
We may never know.

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 12:13 PM

and I agree to agree to agree to disagree...   never mind.

So, I should start posting the remaining sonnets? I still have 7-1019 to go, unless I take pity and remove the ones to my muse I have already posted.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 12:26 PM

Sure BB - bring 'em on!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 12:40 PM

You might regret that comment. The early ones are of... indifferent quality. I must plead youth and lack of the extensive study I have put in in the years since they were written. Please look at the year BEFORE making comments- but comments will be looked at.


                Sonnet 18/12/73        Appelatory                        VII


                Lovely one, who has my soul in yours to hold,
                Of whose love I only wish a fraction.
                I'd trade, for but a breath, be I so bold,
                Such as I value, beneath comparison.

                Part of my heart is gone, now and forever,
                All of my thoughts are lost, only to you,
                Remembering only you, knowing that never,
                Recalling your love, again to take joy in love new.

                My heart is lost to you, O dearest friend;
                You alone control my words and thoughts.

                Lately, I wait, alone, for dreams to end,
                Only to onward dream, knowing that naught,
                Vain thoughts, can ever result of unshared love.
                Ever hoping, against my fate decreed above.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 01:24 PM

I can see a difference in style between this older one and your newer ones. I don't pretend to be an expert on poetry in general, or sonnets in particular, but for what it's worth, there is something appealing and fresh about this older one that I like. I suspect it may be looser in a technical sense, and that may even be part of its charm.

So keep 'em coming. I'm off to bed now for a while. It's 3.22 in the morning here in upside-down land :-)

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 01:39 PM

Sonnet 21/12/73        To Theresa                        VIII

                O little one, who as from heaven sent,
                You are an angel, in diminutive disguise;
                A spot of silver light, a Christmas present,
                A beautiful woman with pixie eyes.
                Like spring incarnate, you bring a breath of life
                Into these tomb-like halls, that need some hope,
                Because of arguments, dissensions: Strife
                With which, alone, we cannot ever cope.
                But you. it seems, have hope enough for all,
                And gladly I do share of it with you
                At this moment in life; green leaf in fall,
                So grows this hope, for old as well as new.
                I dedicate this poem to you, inspired
                By you: This work my feeble pen has sired.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 11 Sep 05 - 10:46 AM

well, I'm glad to see that no matter if the road should end the sonnet will travel on.

Back from an extended summer tour and on line again.

it'll be good to hear you all again.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 09:52 AM

Sonnet 22/12/73        Spectrum                        IX

                The blue of sunlight, on snowflakes dancing
                Round me, chills my heart with diamond beauty;
                That light only my loneliness enhancing,
                As here I am, and you are not with me.
                The red of twilight, as the evening deepens
                Round me, chills my heart with dying splendor;
                That light only my loneliness does darken,
                As here I am, and you aren't to me near.
                The amber, flickering light of a candle's flame
                Round me, chills my heart with solitary grace;
                That light on only my heart can I blame,
                As here I am, and cannot see your face.
                These lights do not my soul illuminate;
                Loneliness has darkened heart, appraised of fate.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 03:46 PM

so, having returned, promptly became immersed in five year olds and haven't been back since.

a non-sonnet

Cloth

The fabric was gossamer
Tragically warped
The emperor's clothes hung to dry
Pride and desire
Pathetic delusion
as elusive as a drunken promise.

It's a pattern known well
The colours are fading
Edges are worn and the style is so jaded
Tattered and frayed
Patched darns as fragile
as a silk cocoon

The weft that was woven is twisted and torn
Tangled,
Tangled up in you

Caught in a kitten's reverie
In a place where no end is up
Bested and worsted by love's snarled string
Trapped and tickle tortured...triumph
as frail as a peeling sunburn

The weft that was woven is twisted and torn
Tangled
Tangled up in you

Cloth fashioned in dreams
Unravelling seams
Barely noticed until laid threadbare
Brittle and broken
Sodden and soaking: Worn as a penance.

The weft that was woven is twisted and torn
Tangled
Tangled up in you

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 06:42 AM

Sonnet 23/12/73                                        X

                I wander, underneath the stars at night,
                Without a guide to lead me on, homeward.
                For, without you, my love, who is my light,
                I'm lost within a darkness, love deferred.
                I walk beneath a dead-gray, faceless moon;
                As aimlessly, alone, I seek a goal,
                Reading the moon, like as some Nordic rune,
                An iron disc, within a sky of coal.
                I stand below the fleeing clouds on high,
                Wishing to flee from memories of you,
                As if to run from falling stars, and why?
                Dead memories, of which I have but few.
                Lost without you; your painful memory
                The only source of guidance given me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 09:54 PM

me again, surfacing for air...

i tried to run from a falling star once...wishful thinking.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 10:42 PM

So...whaddya think about Flapmorton as a name for a boy child?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:43 AM

ok, you asked for it...

Sonnet 259 of 263 to my most recent muse

Sonnet 16/09/05                              MXX

Only dream gives reason to think you'll share
A part of your desires: To let me know
What I might do to longing for you show.
Can I ignore chance, and not my dreams dare?
I have only hope that you'd want my care,
When silence and fears fill mind, and tears flow.
Should I continue to let desire grow
For future, when I cannot past repair?
Yet, you remain sweet muse, though shadow falls
Upon my dreams. I try to reach your light
To heal heart, but arms fail to hold concerns.
Now, the longing for your kiss in dream calls,
But I am tied to past: I fear to write
Of love until dream knows that hope returns.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:45 PM

ahhhh...but that I was that muse.

j

ps. depends how ugly the kid is

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:53 PM

You know, BB, I have to tell you that enduring your romantic poetry all these months on an otherwise perfectly viable thread has been quite a trial for me. I realize you enjoy it for some reason. I realize that it emotionally fullfills you somehow. I realize that it's not my place to judge your poetry, but....

This is MY friggin' thread!!! I started it. Fer Chrissake, why don't you start a thread ABOUT your muse and post there instead?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:11 AM

Sonnet 260 of 263 to my most recent muse



Sonnet 22/09/05                         MXXI

Bright muse, you are enough of dream to call
Forth more than just desire: You are the source
Imagination draws hope from. Yet, all
Heart has to offer cannot your smile force.
Must I not want your happiness? I ask
For you to tell what it is you desire:
Should I attempt to all my longings mask,
Or might I let line list why you inspire?
I seek more than I might deserve, but less
Than my own dreams desire: Might you be kind,
And give my visions light? Might I confess
That I find you forever in my mind?
I cannot silent stay, and dreams ignore:
You have the power to my heart restore.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:16 AM

LH,

First of all, Happy Birthday!

I made my intention quite clear, here, about my verse. All you need to do is let me be the last post...


42,

I have lost my muse. I wish her only joy and happiness, but should no longer write to her.



"Now is the winter of my discontent"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:48 PM

she, and she alone, was the constant in my falling skies
a fixed point in a gallery of shooting stars
an anchor in the boiling sea
a beacon in my dark.

i am on the rocks.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:38 PM

Thank you, BB. I appreciate your good wishes. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:13 AM

Sonnet 261 of 263 to my most recent muse


Sonnet 01/10/05                              MXXIII

I cannot ask for more than that muse finds
The love she desires, and deserves. I know
I should not more than dream: Still, caring binds
My heart, and verse always must feeling show.
I cannot pretend not to feel regret
That my words had not strength to hold her thought.
Could I have futures changed, had I just let
Heart speak without rhyme? Have I failure sought?
I cannot want less than her smile: The cost
To me matters not. Yet, my heart is repaid
By what she has inspired: I have not lost
The pleasures thought of her has in dreams made.
Dreams are not enough, for reasons to desire:
I need not hope to love for her inspire.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:58 AM

Got you last, BB!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 01:45 PM

Sonnet 262 of 263 to my most recent muse



Sonnet 01/10/05                            MXXIV

I owe you more than ever words can pay,
For giving light, to move darkness from soul.
I think you know my feelings: Should I say
Heart remains in your debt, and dreams control?
You are reason to dream: The lines you share
Reach into me, and entwine soul. You fill
My heart with longing, yet I know you care
For another: I'll not fight your will.
I will always a part of you retain:
A vision to remove despair. I hold
No more than that. My hopes still want to gain
Your love, but know no chance to muse enfold.
I cannot wish that you ever have tears,
And I have no hope to defeat your fears.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:47 PM

I know it's futile, but gotta try anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:42 PM

I know why she left you, man...

Too many danged sonnets, that's why! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:02 AM

too many? One poet wrote over 50,000= more than 3000 in one year. I COULD start posting his, but have more of mine still to put on here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:03 AM

sonnet 263 of 263 to my most recent muse...

Sonnet 16/10/05                         MXXVI

I find, in absence, echoes: Shadow forms,
Lacking substance of dream. I am now blind,
Without muse-light: How can heart hope to find
A path, when hopes are now nothing but storms?
Without her, dreams do not find bright desire,
Nor reasons to my sorrows soothe: The night
Now time to fear, I would not lose the right
To let thoughts of her smile regrets inspire.
Should I not remain thankful for the time
That dreams of her and hope gave peace of mind?
No future, but I hold the past to bind
These echoes of hope sealed inside my rhyme.
Let me remember dreams, and try to feel
Enough of hope to some of sadness heal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:23 PM

Just think if William Shatner got the bug and started writing sonnets. Wouldn't that be great? Specially if he churned out, say, 15 or 20 of them every day, and posted them all here. Wow. I get chills just thinking about it.

I'm gonna give him a call and suggest it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:42 PM

LH


Just remember the August Treaty. I will post no more than two sonnets a day here, unless you violate the terms of the agreement...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 04:25 PM

that treaty must have been signed while I was away on tour.

Anyone with the organizational skill and determination to write more than one sonnet (my total) will certainly be able to abide by the letter of the 'law'.
jen

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 04:39 PM

Sonnet 23/12/73                        XI

                O beautiful Suzanne, your opal charm,
                Your eyes, your face within its raven frame,
                Have powers unknowing, my heart to harm
                Accidentally, by gentle words the same.
                Could I but give my soul to you from me,
                It would be only to return to you
                What always has been, and ever will be,
                The possession of which is but your due.
                Around you center my thoughts of love and joy,
                Your presence alone that brings to me some hope;
                Gift of, to me, a smile, demure and coy,
                Enhances life, extending out its scope.
                To you, because of this, I only ask,
                Treat me kindly, if with me falls your task.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:17 AM

What fickle mischief passed this way, chaos in its wake?
Howling tantrum finally run its course
The calm after the storm finds me bent and bowed,
Waiting for the axe to fall.
For the axe to fall.

Waking to the weather just pale moments from the dawn
Random shadows flicker through the shades
Caught in tangled branches and hung from shattered heart,
Fancy flown in fear from danger's face,
Flown from danger's face.

Splintered limbs, once supple, now in supplication strain.
Scarce shelter from the storm's cruel, random whim
Wrap this hollow heart in hope and guard with bark and bite
Too weary now to go against the grain.
Against the grain.

Thought and Memory: two old crows haunt the canopy
If the bough should break where will they fall?
Preening raven wings, raucous screeching turned to plea…
Who will remember me?
Remember me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 03:27 PM

nice!


Sonnet 264 of 266 to my last muse...


Sonnet 05/11/05                         MXXIX

All I now hold of her are dreams, and these
Few lines that thinking of her still inspires.
I cannot cease concern: My heart still sees
More than just muse in one my soul desires.
In silence heart hears only tears, to fill
Darkness with fears and sorrow: Should I seek
To bend the memories to match my will,
Or wait, and hope that muse might deign to speak?
Yet, should I need more than these dreams, to give
Reason to thank her? She has been the source
And destination of my verse: Dreams live
As long as I'll read words without remorse.
All she has given remains in my heart:
How can I write, and not wish her a part?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 03:42 PM

Got you last! As my gramma would say.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 03:45 PM

not for long...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 07:55 AM

Sonnet 265 of 266 ...


Sonnet 07/11/05                         MXXX

How might I fill the emptiness I feel
Without her? Will there be another voice
To draw me into dream? Should I now seal
Heart from desires, and abide by her choice?
What might I call the longing for my muse
When she is gone? Am I a fool, to care?
I cannot, for her, my concern refuse,
Yet I dare not hope to again dreams share.
Where might I look for heart's desire, to hold
True love in caring arms? Should I recall
How long it took to find muse? Dreams are cold,
Without her smile, yet sometimes dreams are all.
In lightless dream I wait, for one soft word
To explain why this silence is preferred.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Lalonde
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:07 AM

And it shall be me!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: JennyO
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:47 AM

Er - no.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:23 PM

Ha!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:58 PM

Thanks for the chance to post more sonnets...


266 of 280 to my last muse...


Sonnet 18/11/05                            MXXXII

Can I dream, without hope that she will lend
Some part of heaven to my night? I pray,
But am not answered: Must all of dreams end,
Without the chance she will hear what I say?
I cannot ask for my desire, to share
The stars, and sunrise. Should I with moon plead
To shine without her? Even the sun's glare
Does not light more than shadow of heart's need.
My vision fails: How can I think to see
With only darkness upon dream? I wait
For dawn to end despair. Heart cannot be
At rest alone, yet that now seems my fate.
Is there reason I should not cry, to know
I have no hope to concern for muse show?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:14 PM

You're welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:19 PM

267 of 280...


Sonnet 02/12/05                               MXXXV

Can heart ask reason for a night without
The moon, or stars, or her? Can heart know why
All is now dark and cold? It dreams about
Past hopes, but can heart find cause not to cry?
Will vision give sight of a dawn, or show
The path to heart's desire? Only in dreams
Does hope in absence of any chance grow,
And can dreams make fate other than it seems?
Is there even the shadow of a chance
That she might yet smile send? Should heart pretend
I do not care, when dream all hopes advance?
How can I longings for muse ever end?
Even my dreams need her smile to be whole:
What is the power she has over soul?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:50 PM

Don't make me get the belt...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:53 PM

2500

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 05:05 PM

And one...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 06:27 PM

Persuint to the Aug 05 agreement, the next sonnet will be posted after 0000 12 April.



However,...


Balad 1 of 40 to my muse...

Ballad of Dreams

A wizard searches, and spells find
Treasure beyond compare:
Young dryad, with sweet soul and mind,
With dreams that heart might share.

" I find one whose words speak to me
With echoes of my dreams.
Might I hope that this muse might be
Truly as she now seems?"

He offers verse: Reflections of
The thoughts he holds of her.
He tries to tell those dreams of love
That with her words occur.

It is not lips, nor touch, nor eyes
That capture with their fire:
But dream that, from her writing, tries
To wizard's heart inspire.

He asks only what he would give
In pursuit of romance.
He hopes that dreams might someday live
And passion have it's chance.

That muse cares for his words brings joy:
But he prays she knows force
That hope holds. Can he dreams employ,
To follow heart to source?

                                        12 May 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 06:32 PM

Loaghi.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 07:35 PM

Balad 2 of 40...

Ballad to a Beautiful Muse (2)


I have a muse: A precious maid,
Who causes thought to mull.
For all my lines I have heart paid:
My muse is beautiful.

I seek for words to tell desires,
And rhymes from visions pull.
I find the truth that she inspires:
My muse is beautiful.

I beg for muse to give me hope,
And dream words dutiful.
I cannot without desire cope:
My muse is beautiful.

My dreams fly round, seeking my muse,
Demanding as a gull.
How can I hope for touch refuse?
My muse is beautiful.

The distance, and effects of age,
Cannot my passions lull:
The blood still pounds, and desires rage.
My muse is beautiful.

I hold her only in my mind,
And wrap arms just in wool.
Yet know I know, though heart is blind,
My muse is beautiful.

18 May 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:26 PM

Not so fast, Milligan!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:31 PM

3 of 40...

Ballad of Gems (3)

Would I had means to give muse bright
Tokens of my desire:
Diamonds to sparkle from the light
That all of dreams inspire.

I would send pearls, as smooth as dream,
To rest upon her skin.
Not quite a kiss to heart redeem,
But touch to hopes begin.

She feeds my dreams with her replies:
My dreams would to muse send
Emeralds, jealous of her eyes,
To lesser beauties lend.

Her lips arouse passions: I'd choose
To give a gem of heat:
Ruby, to blush beside my muse,
And brighter fires meet.

I cannot dreams of muse deny:
I wish that I could give
Sapphires to look as stars in sky
That muse midst heaven live.

I offer muse my heart, and hands
To ease all of her aches.
Not that she any gift demands,
But for desires' sakes.

                                                12 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:33 PM

Time for the aphabet. Ahem!

"A"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:34 PM

4 of 40...


Ballad (4)

How shall I reach to hold muse near
When I this distance stay?
What might I do, to vision clear
Of one for whom I pray?

Should I my dreams enjoy, or find
The way to nearer be?
Should I allow desires to blind
All reason, to muse see?

Sweet angel muse, will you not share
The reasons that you smile?
Might I run fingers through your hair,
And longings reconcile?

I will accept all muse might give,
To feelings turn to ink.
I wish only that dreams could live,
And muse of me would think.

I ask that muse would share her soul,
That I might know her heart.
I seek her happiness, as goal,
But hope I might play part.

The hope for future gives me all
That I dare dream desire:
The love of one that to dreams call,
With eyes of dryad's fire.

                                16 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:35 PM

"B"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:41 PM

5 of 40...


Ballad (5)

My dreams of muse are roses, soft,
Sweetly perfumed, to touch
My heart with gentle kisses. Oft
I have in past sought such.

How might I ease the doubts of muse?
What questions do you hold?
How can you my statements refuse
When I would dreams enfold?

My dreams of muse are gems, bright stars
Now captured in your eyes.
There is no flaw that vision mars,
Save that only dream tries.

I have the time to listen, though
All time is not my own:
How can I concern for you show
When dreams remain alone?

I seek desires: To know the dream
That shares your star-filled night.
What hopes will you allow, to seem
To offer vision's sight?

Your smile gives reason to rejoice:
Your words give me desire
To seek for more, but yours is choice
What you of heart inspire.

24 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:44 PM

"C"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:45 PM

6 of 40...

( and you run out of letters in 23 more...)

Ballad (6)

Muse bids me love, and my hopes leap
To know her wish is such:
Could I this heart from loving keep,
Though lips do not yet touch?

She feeds my dreams with words of care
And image of her eyes.
How can I not my visions share
With one of heart so wise?

All I desire is sight of smile,
To fill my nights alone
With thought of muse to give heart trial
That I might passions own.

I wish her only joy, that she
Obtain her heart's desire.
Yet, might she forgive hopes that we
Would to embrace conspire?

She holds my future: Can I ask
To hold her dreams in mine?
I know to seek for love is task
My heart cannot decline.

My muse provides the core for dream:
A fire within my soul
That forges heart, and makes life seem
A vision now made whole.

26 June 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:46 PM

"D"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:47 PM

7 of 40...

Ballad (7)

Wizard always sees muse, in mind,
But seeks to know her heart:
Only in silence is he blind,
In dreams his visions start.

He worries, not because of fear
That she will not be found,
But that he cannot offer cheer
To her pains keep in bound.

No spell he holds will her tears dry
Though he offers his soul:
He cannot his concerns deny,
That her dreams be made whole.

The wizard waits for muse, but schemes
To hold her within arm.
Might he risk heart to chase his dreams,
Or would he bring muse harm?

She is his focus: Dreams converge
Upon her smile, and eyes,
To haunt his longings. Shall he urge
That she his presence prize?

Choice would be clear, could desires rule,
A path for future bliss:
He would muse seek, and be a fool,
To offer his muse kiss.

3 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:48 PM

"E"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:50 PM

8 of 40...

Oh, please don't throw me into that briar bush!
( I was wondering how to post them all withou going over the per post page limit...)

Thanks, LH!


Ballad (8)

I dream of arms around my muse,
To hold her in the night.
I cannot thought of her refuse:
To love her would be right.

I fear only I can't refrain
From acting on desire:
I hope always to smile retain,
Yet offer passion's fire.

Muse drives me wild with thought of touch
And visions of my dream.
Dare I hope that she wishes such,
That love in her eyes gleam?

I seek to please my muse, and self,
With pleasures, and concern:
I cannot place dreams upon shelf,
Nor from her beauty turn.

I wish I might live dream, and hold
Muse close, and taste her lips.
Drunk with desire, I would be bold,
And of her soul seek sips.

My words are poor reflections of
The vision that heart sees:
Can page hold her that I would love,
One who heart's desire frees?

8 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:53 PM

"F"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:55 PM

9 of 40...


Ballad (9)

Of muse and mage I story tell,
With love, and sweet caress;
That she holds him in woven spell,
And all of his dreams bless.

She was a dryad of the wood,
A sweet and caring maid.
He sought for one that his dreams could
Hold tight, and not hopes fade.

She grew upon him: As the rose,
She wound about his heart.
Far more than lust in old mage grows,
To find in life true Art.

He tries to reach to her, and fold
All spells and power round:
He seeks to keep her safe, and hold
To love he has now found.

Does muse realize power of dream?
She offers smile, and looks
To past sweep away, and redeem
The wisdom in his books.

Mage wonders of she's real: He seeks
To touch vision of fire
That heats passion, and to heart speaks.
She is his one desire.

9 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:55 PM

"G"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:57 PM

10 of 40...


Ballad (10)

It storms, but mage sees only sun,
And cannot feel this rain:
Thought of his muse has binding spun,
To hold heart and dreams gain.

His dreams shine with reflected light
That muse holds in her eyes.
Mage becomes student, to earn sight
Of smile, and hope of prize.

She is his muse: She owns his soul,
And gives purpose for thought.
Alone, only his dreams are whole,
And hope in vain is sought.

Muse dreams her dreams, and mage must seek
To learn what brings her joy.
His knowledge serves to his hopes speak,
And his own dreams employ.

Sweet, beautiful, kind and caring;
All doubt of Love is gone:
Might mage hope to spend night sharing
A pot of tea, and dawn?

Mage has but heart to give. He sends
Desire to be far more
Than distant voice: Dream of muse mends
All ills, and hopes endure.

10 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:00 PM

"H"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:01 PM

11 of 40...

Ballad (10)

It storms, but mage sees only sun,
And cannot feel this rain:
Thought of his muse has binding spun,
To hold heart and dreams gain.

His dreams shine with reflected light
That muse holds in her eyes.
Mage becomes student, to earn sight
Of smile, and hope of prize.

She is his muse: She owns his soul,
And gives purpose for thought.
Alone, only his dreams are whole,
And hope in vain is sought.

Muse dreams her dreams, and mage must seek
To learn what brings her joy.
His knowledge serves to his hopes speak,
And his own dreams employ.

Sweet, beautiful, kind and caring;
All doubt of Love is gone:
Might mage hope to spend night sharing
A pot of tea, and dawn?

Mage has but heart to give. He sends
Desire to be far more
Than distant voice: Dream of muse mends
All ills, and hopes endure.

10 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:02 PM

"I"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:03 PM

12 of 40...


Ballad (12)

Mage seeks of muse an avatar
To make his dreams more real.
Is he a fool, to look so far
For one to his love feel?

She is far more than he deserves,
With soft dreams of her own.
How can he hope his hope muse serves,
When he but dreams have shown?

What might mage offer muse, to fill
Some of her hours with joy?
Might his words show intent he will
Passions of dreams employ?

He cannot his desires ignore,
Although he cannot act.
Apart, he has but dreams: No more
Than hope for what he's lacked.

How can mage other than muse praise
For what dream of her brings?
The thought of her hopes to sky raise,
And desire passion sings.

Has he now found true heart's desire,
And one to share his life?
Can mage stay warm with passion's fire,
And win his muse as wife?

                                 22 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:24 PM

"J"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:31 PM

13 of 40...


Ballad (13)

We seek for happiness, and find
Those souls that are true friends.
We share our hopes, and in each mind
We hope dreams have no ends.

I have found one, with eyes of light,
To make my visions real.
For smile, I would give all, that sight
Might know what my dreams feel.

Your eyes offer the world I seek,
Of care, and sweet concern:
I must be strong- but, were I weak,
I would to travel turn.

You send a kiss, and I desire
To interest on it pay.
You give me dreams, and hopes inspire,
And I must longings say.

I envy pearls, that touch your skin,
And rest upon soft breast.
How might I dream of passions win,
And put all fears to rest?

I would not want to change my muse,
Save to increase your smiles.
You are desire: I would now choose
Only to lessen miles.

27 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:33 PM

"K"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:40 PM

14 of 40...


Ballad (14)

Should mage offer this muse his kiss
In thanks for her sweet smile?
Dare he lips touch? Do his dreams miss
A sign she'd hopes revile?

He offers all to one who cares,
But does she want his heart?
Might dreams be all that mage now shares,
Hopes all that inspire art?

Yet, her eyes offer more than dream:
They show concern, and soul.
The promise of her smile would seem
To make shattered heart whole.

She is far more than center of
Desires, dreams, and thought:
One of the few that mage might love,
She has his passions caught.

Mage is now bound, but does not seek
To break from muse's spell.
Years have made him foolish, or weak:
That he should her hold tell.

True vision sees what is not there:
But what may one day be.
For now, enough that she might care:
Fears do not set heart free.

29 July 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:40 PM

"L"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:42 PM

15 of 40...

Ballad (15)

I would not have my muse in tears,
Nor angry at the world:
I'd rather nibble on her ears,
Or hair, 'round fingers twirled.

What does my muse dream of, tonight,
When she closes her eyes?
What might she see, in dreams so bright,
That would my hopes realize?

I know she knows I care: But, dare
I ask that she give sign
That she might want me to love share,
And our dreams intertwine?

I have only my dreams, to see
How I might reach her heart.
Yet, visions cannot tell to me
How I might dreams impart.

Her smile reward enough for verse,
Yet heart wants so much more:
Should I hopes feed, or passions nurse,
And all my fears ignore?

She is one I wish only well,
With eyes that give me dream:
Would words could all my passions tell,
That I might hopes redeem.

02 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:58 PM

"M"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:09 PM

16 of 40

Ballad (16)

I would not ever say goodbye
To one who holds my heart.
She is my muse- My soul would die
Before dreams would depart.

What might muse say, to bring a song
To heart, and words to page?
Am I foolish, or is it wrong
To seek to be her mage?

I beg to know her dream, and ask
Muse share desires with me:
Should I be silent, or hopes mask
That I might help dreams be?

She need but smile, and verses spring
To life, under her sun.
She grows my love, and words take wing,
And I have my dreams won.

Within my muse's eyes, I find
All I seek to desire.
Yet, is all of this in my mind,
That only hopes inspire?

I thirst for all of muse I might   
Reach with my dreams, or hold.
I hunger for her touch, and sight:
These dreams alone are cold.

03 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:11 PM

"N"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:12 PM

17 of 40


Ballad (17)

My muse is beauty- flower sweet
That blossoms in my heart.
I wish I could these miles defeat,
And with kiss verses start.

I would from passion form my line
And rhyme from her replies.
An epic would from touch refine,
And lyric from her eyes.

Yet, I worship muse from afar,
And ask only her smile.
She offers me enough - A star
To guide dreams, for a while.

It is not easy, to resist
My muse: As moth, I fly:
Heedless of flame, in dream I've kissed,
And satisfied, I die.

Her eyes draw me, and seal my fate:
I cannot from muse flee.
I must be plain, and dreams relate,
And let her hear my plea.

I ask for all I might, but know
I have no claim, nor chance.
I hold but in dream: Yet, dreams show
What I seek in romance.

03 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:17 PM

"O"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:18 PM

18 of 40

Ballad (18)

Muse is my moon, to light my dreams
With pleasure, and desire:
I seek to hold her, but my schemes
Cannot sweet muse acquire.

Muse is my sun, to light my day,
And make my passions grow.
I turn towards her, and feelings say
Yet cannot her heart know.

Muse is my star, to guide my soul
To find what I now seek.
She offers all I want, as goal,
But is my verse too weak?

Muse is my dream, a precious maid
Whose eyes show me my fate.
She is one for whom verse is made,
To some of hopes relate.

Muse is heart's hope, the image of   
All that I seek, or need.
I find in smile what I might love:
Her words to visions lead.

Muse is my world: The focus, heart,
Of what I care about.
How can I dedicate my art
To her, and not dreams shout?

04 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:20 PM

"P"   Hmmm...that reminds me... Be back in a minute.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:22 PM

19 of 40...


I'll pick this back up in a few days...


Ballad (19)

Sweet angel, muse- A priceless gem
Far more than I can say.
She is unique: My dreams condemn
This mage to her fool play.

I wish I could give muse desire
And fulfill all her dreams.
Thought of her brings my passions fire,
And her smile soul redeems.

A rose each morning, and a kiss
To wake her with sun's rise:
A chance for smile I would not miss,
Nor sight of her sweet eyes.

I would hold muse, and let lips trace
Her neck, and down each arm:
I'd rub her feet, and kiss her face,
And keep always from harm.

She is one I would offer all
Of self, to that smile win.
I need only her wish to fall
In love, and world would spin.

Yet, can I make dreams real? She holds
The key, to dreams unseal:
I know only that desire folds
Future round thoughts I feel.

10 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:27 PM

"Q" Just ask him. He knows it all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 01:43 PM

20 of 40...


Ballad (20)

Where have you run to, muse of mine
That I cannot smile see?
How can I hope to words refine
From dream, that verse might be?

Where have you gone, that dreams are blind
To all that heart desires?
I cannot follow: Might hopes find
The light of your eyes' fires?

What will I do, without the thought
Of you seeing my wit?
How will I know if words have caught
Mind's eye, to your dreams fit?

Who else could I dream of, and tell
The world I prize as muse?
You fill my need: You cast a spell
Beyond what my hope choose.

When will I this soft moonlight share
With one who makes it shine?
How can I dream that you would care
To hold your hand in mine?

Why do I question all? I know
I have no choice in this.
You are my muse: Though my dreams grow,
You decide if we kiss.

13 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: clairerise
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 02:14 PM

as it too my poor comp TEN MINS to load this page i should be last.

any objections?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 02:23 PM

YES- Click on the "d" next to the number of lines, and get it a lot faster.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 02:27 PM

"R"

The End

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 02:38 PM

21 of 40...

Nice to know others want more of my poetry posted, besides LH...


Ballad (21)

Might mage cast spell to capture muse
And hold her to his heart?
Can dreams be real: How can he use
Desire to form his art?

He has not power to alter fate
Nor win against her will:
For this muse, he would ages wait
That she might his arms fill.

He studies past, to future gain:
He seeks to present change.
If his hopes could her smile obtain   
He might the stars arrange.

Mage sees in muse all that he tries
To find, in all his books.
She is dream in flesh: Her deep eyes
Show wisdom with their looks.

She is his sun, his moon, his stars:
This angel heaven fills.
He sees her light: Only time mars
His hope, with age's ills.

Yet, dreams have power to give mage life
And heal even his heart:
He knows hopes are with desires rife,
But must his passions start.

14 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 03:21 PM

Sonnet 268 of 280 to my last muse...


Sonnet 13/12/05                         MXXXVI

I wonder still how I might send her stars
To reflect in her eyes. I do not think
It is so much a crime, to care. She bars
My words, but I still dreams to her smile link.
I wonder why she remains in my heart,
To guide dreams where they should not go. I try
Seeking another muse, but cannot part
With what soul finds in vision of her eye.
I wonder what might alter mood, to give
A chance for dreams: Should I pretend to be
As other than I am? Can my dreams live
Knowing they will not her smile ever see?
I do not wonder if I will forget:
I'll not longing for muse ever regret.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:42 AM

"S" Thanks, Stilly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: freda underhill
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:52 AM

"T"

my letter on a certain banner..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 02:57 PM

270 of 280...\


Sonnet 06/01/06                              MXL

Shall I look for another muse, when you
Still fill my dreams with longing? Might I keep
Some hope for future smile? Can dreams renew
How heart has felt, yet still let desires sleep?
You hold my heart, though I remain too far
To run fingers through hair, or brush those lips.
I cannot keep from wanting you. You are
More than words tell: Soul into loving slips.
Am I a fool, to care, when you have found
Your own desires, and have no need of me?
I remain to true muse forever bound:
You lack only the power to set me free.
All that I ask is that you verses write,
That someday I might dreams to heart invite.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 02:58 PM

22 of 40...


Ballad (22)

A picture of you forms the song
That echoes in this heart:
A dream of kiss is far too strong
To from verse keep apart.

Thought of you fills my dreams, and lights
Desires as if 'twere day.
Should I deny my wish, that nights
I could with my muse stay?

You give vision to heart, to know
The reasons for desire.
How can words ever feelings show,
When muse is dream, entire?

In you, I find all I now seek,
A muse of quiet strength;
True beauty, and sweet eyes that speak
To lonely soul at length.

All you might ask of me, I'd give
With joy, at thought of smile:
In truth, I find reason to live,
That words hold you a while.

I hold you in my dreams, and feel
Softness of skin, and lips.
But I know that dreams are not real:
The hope for dream now slips.

16 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 01:48 PM

Everything passes, everything changes...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Willis
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:44 PM

I guess I am really last until some other idiot posts here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:49 PM

Sonnet 271 of 281...


Sonnet 13/01/06                            MXLII

Is there a reason that I should not care
About the muse who fills my dreams and heart?
Must I forget all that thoughts of her share,
And give up all hope to more verses start?
Is there a reason that I should not tell
How much of soul remains, even without
Her words, her smile, or hope, under her spell?
How can I ignore one dreams are about?
Is there a reason that I should not plead
For word how she is, and what dreams have told?
She matters more than the sum of my need:
I want happiness more than to her hold.
Shall I one further reason of her seek?
Might I know if I might of future speak?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:03 PM

Aha. ;-) Some other idiot did. One who writes sonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:13 PM

272 of 281 ...


Sonnet 24/01/06                            MXLIII

How can I balance longing with desire
To know my muse is happy? Is there chance
She might her lines resume, or does she tire?
Will she for my verse spare even a glance?
Wanting her smile, perhaps I should not tell
Of hopes, or my desires. Yet, she is muse,
The reason for verse: With her, all is well;
Without, dreams only heart and soul confuse.
Can I think about her, and not muse seek?
Not under stars, or moon, or sun: She holds
The power to dream of life to soul speak,
Yet, it cannot be muse that dream enfolds.
She is heart's hope, and dream's desire, but all
That I now hold cannot her smile recall.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:15 PM

LH, I do thank you for the chance to continue posting sonnets. If not for you and your able assistants, I would not have posted any more- So, the credit is entirely YOURS.


Just so they know who to lynch... 8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:16 PM

As I've said before, BB, you are a very sick man. ;-P

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:20 PM

LH,

I made a clear and open statement of my method of being the last to post here, back in May of 04...

You have no-one to blame but yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:29 PM

I note, BB, that you have taken over the odd-numbered posts. I cannot allow that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:45 PM

Odd or even, it does not matter...


Ballad (23)

Bright moon, you pale beside those eyes,
Nor can stars match her smile.
She outshines heaven: Though sun tries,
It is muse who wins trial.

She is my muse: A dryad, rose,
Beauty beyond compare.
Thought of her lights my dreams: Heart knows
No josy save that muse care.

I read, in her words, songs to sound
Within my heart's desire.
Thought of her kiss makes my heart pound;
Of eyes, feeds passion's fire.

I see picture, and want to hold
This woman in my arms.
I dream of eyes, and hope I've told
The power of her charms.

Yet, I awake from dream, and know
Lips will not touch her skin.
Desire does not chance for hopes grow,
Nor can dream true love win.

Beauty alone does not make muse:
Heart must speak to my soul.
I see in her far more, and choose
To make her smile my goal.

21 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:47 PM

but if this will make you happy...

Ballad (24)

In dreams, I rub your feet, and give
Warm milk, and gentle kiss.
Shall I whisper soft words, to live
In dream what life might miss?

I want to hold you in my arms,
And listen to your heart:
I wish to keep you from all harms
And give you all my art.

How can I soothe your rest, and send
Sweet dreams to you each night?
How can I ease your aches, and lend
My care, that fears take flight?

Might my words bring a smile, in eyes
That light my hopes, and dream?
Can you hear, in my lines, the sighs
Heart gives, when image gleams?

You are my dream, my hope: Desire
Made real, and soft, and dear.
You are true love: You light a fire
That all of past would sear.

Give me some word what I can share
To win you peace of mind:
What might I say to show I care,
How can I sweet dreams find?

23 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 07:58 PM

Much better.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 08:00 PM

OK. I do so want all to be happy...

Ballad (25)

A cup of tea with muse, a fire
Of scented wood, and time
To whisper dreams that she inspire:
Are such desires crime?

My muse's eyes light up the night,
And dream of her is all
I care about: But is it right
To for such beauty fall?

I long to run fingers through hair
And brush her lips with mine.
I want to show how much I care
And of desires give sign.

I overreach, to seek to touch
This one, who molds my heart.
How can I dare hope to dreams clutch,
And not with my soul part?

But soul is a small price to give
For such as I behold:
How can I let my passions live,
And not in arms enfold?

I dream, but hold only desires;
For this beautiful maid
Who all of dream in me inspires:
My debt cannot be paid.

30 Aug 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:39 PM

"and a tide came in..."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:59 AM

Ballad (26)

I thank my muse for her beauty
That she shares in the night.
Can I let my desires run free
That I might hold her tight?

Her eyes shame stars, that cannot shine
With half the light of hers.
How can I give my muse a sign
Of what that sparkle stirs?

Those lips call out to me, to pull
My own to her command.
She has the power to make dream full
Of what my hopes demand.

I see in face what I desire,
Sweet vision of delight:
This image of her dreams require
To keep my hopes in sight.

I long to stroke her hair, and feel
Soft touch, against my skin.
Yet, should I dare to hopes reveal,
When dreams should not begin?

I cannot claim muse for my own,
And all hopes of love miss:
Might I pray that my words have shown
Enough, to earn one kiss?

02 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:03 AM

What? Another even-numbered post? Well, we can't have that, can we?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:36 AM

LH-

either I can post odd or even- you can only ask that I leave you ONE of them.... Recall your opening words on this thread:

"16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM (#1168782)
Subject: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter."


"Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:37 AM

Ballad (27)

Might muse send feather to be quill,
Pulled from her angel wings?
How can I wait, when my dreams spill
From soul and my heart's strings?

Might I beg token, that heart knows
She thinks of me, at times?
How can I ask, when her smile shows
She cares at least for rhymes?

Is there a reason I should think
I'll hold her in my arms?
Have I the chance to from lips drink,
Or drown in her eyes' charms?

She is my muse- A dryad, rare
Beyond belief, but real.
How can I say how much I care,
When dreams are all I feel?

I want far more than words might earn,
To share the dawn, and night.
Yet, should I from my passions turn,
And think to hold dreams tight?

I offer all, but know I give
Only what muse permits.
I ask only that dreams might live,
And hope into heart fits.

05 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:39 AM

I seem to note a fundemental difference between us- YOU insist that others NOT post while you post as you wish, while I insist on my right to post, and allow others to post as they wish.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:44 AM

The fundamental difference you note would be true...if I took any of this stuff on this thread seriously. ;-)

Well, see you tomorrow, I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:29 AM

probably...


Ballad (28)

This dryad remains in my heart,
A muse of rare degree.
How can I keep verses from start
When in heart I smile see?

Her eyes send visions to my mind,
That heart might some hope hold.
How could I ever the words find
To say what smile has told?

In dream, I feel her cheek, and taste
A tear, alone and sweet:
She weeps with joy. Even in haste,
My dreams would her wish meet.

A quiet voice whispers my dream
Upon the page, to rest.
Can my soft words tell what would seem
To be in kiss told best?

My muse is more than I can write:
She is love, life, and soul.
In her I find future, so bright,
That sun is like dark coal.

I do not see my path, but Fate
Will take me where it will.
I can but content of heart state,
For her smile my dreams fill.

05 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 12:01 PM

"U" you got sidetracked, LH.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 12:06 PM

Ballad (29)

Mage reaches out, and tries to hold
His muse, within his arms.
Will she run from his passions told,
Or willingly share charms?

How can he keep her safe, but free
To be herself? He weeps
To think he might change smile, or be
Less than she needs, or keeps.

He wants only her happiness,
But knows not how to find
The means to her desires address,
And not her spirit bind.

All that he knows seems pointless: Vain
Scribbling upon the page.
He cannot from his books obtain
Those dreams, that make him mage.

Only his muse can fill his mind
With light, and bring to life
The future that his visions find:
Without, he finds but strife.

He knows he never had a choice,
That she is of a plane
Above his grasp. He has no voice
To speak: His dreams must reign.

10 Sept 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:23 PM

"V". Yes I did, Stilly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:16 PM

273 0f 281...

Sonnet 07/02/06                               MXLVI

Can dream of dream share enough with my soul
To ease my longings? Can hope give mind rest
At end of day, when dreams wake to control
All but themselves? Can my heart stand this test?
In all of past I cannot seem to find
The reason arms ache with the dream of you.
Yet, should I to absence remain resigned,
When dreams offer your eyes, and smile, anew?
Can cold reality offer me more
Than echoes of these dreams of muse provide?
Can dream any of hope to heart restore,
Or will heart learn to in itself abide?
Have I even a chance in dreams to hold
To one who all of my dreams of hope mold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 02:46 PM

Dip! The dipping bird grabs another drop of water.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:59 PM

274 0f 281...

Sonnet 24/02/06                         MXLVII

Does desire for muse give dream chance to know
What heart truly requires, or does it find
Only reflections of the past? To show
The future: Would that vision filled my mind.
I miss my muse: How can I feelings tell
Without those whispers in the night? I wait,
But only silence share. I've lost the spell
Muse cast with smile: Are all dreams now too late?
Yet, that she is happy should ease concern
And regrets fade with each thought of smile. All
That I long to hold her, should hopes return,
Does not lessen joy that she found love's call.
Should I ask for a heart, when I desire
Only that she send voice to dreams inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 06:45 PM

Do you know where your moggie is?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 06:57 PM

275 of 281...

Sonnet 07/03/06                            MXLVIII

Bright moon, shine upon muse and show her all
That might her joy increase. Can you muse teach
To gift world with her smile? Yet, dare dream fall
Back to desire for one beyond all reach?
I do not hear her, now, nor can I feel
Her thoughts, or dreams: How can I think to know
Her heart's desire, when silence from nights steal
All hopes from soul, that no future might grow?
I wait, for muse or sleep, but neither find,
And night brings heart no dream nor rest. How long
Must hope be beyond reach? Must I be blind
To all that muse does not share in her song?
I thank my muse for all that she has shared:
Yet, must I think it best if I'd not cared?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 07:00 PM

arrgh!

The last post should have been


Ballad (30)

I would not let muse drift away
When I might hold her tight.
What can I do, to have her say
Her dreams will be all right?

How might I give her dreams true life,
That she might pleasures share?
What can I send, to ease that strife,
And show how much I care?

Should I not try to offer cheer,
Or her smile seek to find?
What can I say, to share her fear,
And hug her, within mind?

What dreams would bring my muse some rest,
To let her wake with smile?
What is the potion that is best
To give sleep, for a while?

Might I find, at the bottom of
A cup, some leaves to read
The future, and desires? Is love
Seen there, for heart to heed?

I know my wish, but should I try
To have my muse make choice?
I 'd rather have smile, and in eye
See reasons to rejoice.

26 Sept 2003



Now my sequence is off- I'll have to start over at the beginning!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: PoppaGator
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 02:50 AM

Back when I had a job, and regularly spent an hour or two each day killing time at Mudcat, I posted to a lot of threads, and "killed" my share of them (i.e., posted something that never got another response).

I don't come around nearly so often these days, but yesterday I seem to have scored a first: I started a thread and failed to inspire a single response:

thread.cfm?threadid=90635&messages=1

It's too late now to add anything; the event in question has come and gone. I'm a bit surprised that nobody gave a damn; I was dead wrong in my closing sentence ("I'm sure that a few of you out there are at least mildly curious...")

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 02:38 PM

Sonnet 276 of 281...


Sonnet 13/03/06                            MXLIX

I cannot sleep, for fear that I might dream
About a muse beyond all reach: I weep,
To know no hope I might past hopes redeem.
How can I even echo of dream keep?
I cannot stop thinking about her: She
Remains focus, unseen, of my desires.
My dreams are blind, without her: Heart can see
No hope nor dream without light muse inspires.
I cannot reach my arms to her, to hold
The one who holds my heart. For all I long
To longing hide, arms still ache to enfold.
Must I think that to find this muse was wrong?
I cannot forget, nor not care about
My muse: Yet, heart must this muse live without.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 03:55 PM

You don't need sleep, you need therapy. ;-P

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:00 PM

Just noticed that I am on the even-numbered posts again. Can't have that!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:02 PM

277 of 281...

Thanks, LH!


Sonnet 23/03/06                            ML

A clouded moon in western sky, and chill
Harsh winds show me the dream heart will acquire
Without a muse: All of present hopes will
Fade, and soul can only of cold night tire.
Silence fills dream, and night is cold, without
Thought of her within arms: How can I sleep,
When heart cannot rest? Must all be in doubt,
That I cannot even my past dreams keep?
All that I have are muse's gift, those lines
That hold moments of dream. Are they to fade
From page, or might those words remain, as signs
I once had one who gave my verses aid?
How can I not be sad, to know I've lost
This muse, and fear that will all of dreams cost?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 06:09 PM

Is it too late to be 2585th?


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 07:16 PM

Ballad (31)

What would you have me do, sweet muse,
To earn even one kiss?
Just thought of smile can dreams confuse,
And your eyes give heart bliss.

Shall I tell you of my desires,
Or some of dreams relate?
Might I send words that hope inspires.
To tell of longed-for fate?

All I require is smile, to lend
The passion to my lines.
Thoughts of your eyes my sorrows mend,
Of lips future refines.

You are my heart's desire, sweet rose,
The light to guide my soul.
Though season turns, and hints of snow,
Heart remains warm, and whole.

What can I give to show the hold
The image of you wields?
Mere words are poor reflections, cold,
Of dreams that my hope yields.

I long to hold you, though I know
I need not touch to care.
Heart remains your, and my dreams show
Reasons I would souls share.

11 Oct. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:07 AM

What would I have you do? To earn just one kiss?

Geez.

I gotta really think about that. That's a tough one.

Hmmm.

That's a real doozy.

Hmmm.

Gimme some time here.

Geez...

Oh, yuck.

Can we work out some other arrangement instead?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 06:02 AM

Kissing's great.

Wait a min. All threads not closed can be added to.

Ha! A flaw in the thread title.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 01:27 PM

Sonnet 04/04/06                           MLII

Can heart find rest after hearing its muse,
While knowing she is gone? Can dream return,
Without her words? Does hope for smile excuse
Not taking chance to her desires learn?
Are echoes now enough to ease the pain
That losing muse has left? She was the light
To give dreams life: How can heart hope to gain
Vision to hold to soul, and sorrows fight?
Will there be chance to longings for her hold,
Or must desires remain ever ignored?
Is there no hope that words have feelings told,
And no future where past might be restored?
All future heart might feel, and those dreams see,
Will not replace that hope she once gave me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 01:29 PM

and to keep LH from being on the wrong post...


Ballad (32)

Tell me, sweet muse, what you desire,
That I may find a way
To give you moon, or stars, or fire
That would warm soul today.

Give me some quest, or set me goal,
To prove how much I care.
Let me show just how deep in soul
You've touched, that I love dare.

Let laughter warm me, and your eyes
Provide reason to live.
Share your dreams with me, and make wise
One who would knowledge give.

Might I dream of my arms around
Treasure beyond mere gold?
Can I hope that I now have found
A part of heart to hold?

All I seek in visions I find
In what I see of you.
All I dream of within my mind
Is to your sweet soul view.

Send me a token of concern,
That hope is not in vain:
Send me your dream, that I might earn
That you my muse remain.

21 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:22 PM

What do I desire?

Well, a new 1/32 scale Ki-61 Hien would be nice. Preferably by Hasegawa.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:25 PM

Sonnet 279 of 281 to my last muse... Sorry, LH.

Sonnet 04/04/06                            MLIII

In time, tears will not form when I recall
Our conversations, and your words. You gave
Far more than I had earned: Could I not fall
For one whose inspiration still dreams save?
I cannot regret my concern: I hold
Your smile as precious. Still, perhaps I sought
Beyond hope's bound. I have only heart told:
I just return the love that you have taught.
Yet, should desire to hold you in my arms
Be such a crime, that dreams and hope must die?
What part of loving muse is it that harms
One I wish only well? Can hope not try?
I will not ask for more than that you tell
If you are loved, and all still remains well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:18 PM

That last one was a little too arcane for my taste.

Could we have a poem about the goldrush or something instead? Something with fistfights, wild women, high adventure, and heavy drinking?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:34 PM

nope...



Ballad (33)

With dancing leaves beneath his feet,
A mage treads chill, and dark.
His thoughts on muse, his dreams hopes meet
In light that her eyes spark.

She remains beyond reach of arms,
Yet held within his heart.
A dream, or real? This vision's charms
Offer far more than Art.

Mage cannot from path turn aside,
Nor fail to for muse wait.
He sees her, with eyes open wide,
And knows he's found his fate.

Muse is more than she seems- Both source
And focus of his lines.
She is sweet maid, who holds the force
Of Love, and heart confines.

He cannot ask that she remain,
Nor that he visit make:
But though he does not his hopes gain,
She all of dreams awake.

With stars as witness, Mage declares
He has found his desire:
This muse, whose smile his heart repairs,
And eyes his soul inspires.

24 Oct. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

Please recall my post of

05 May 04 - 04:46 AM (#1208501)
Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

You don't scare me, BB. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:39 PM

Odd numbers!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:43 PM

Ballad (34)

Mage offers muse fair chains to bind,
With silver and with gold,
His heart, to dreams of her, and find
What he wishes to hold.

Around her wrist one length might go
To remind when she writes:
The other touching neck to show
Where dream has set hope's sights.

He cannot change: He needs to send
Some token of his heart.
Far more would not his dreams defend,
Though he would with all part.

She is his muse, his heart's desires
Made real and brought to earth.
When thought of thought of smile inspires,
How can he send her worth?

All mage can do is dream, and seek
To tell what his hopes see.
He does not kiss, nor hear her speak;
Still, he would not heart free.

She gives him vision, and the light
To show what time might bring:
A quiet talk, a star-lit night,
And chance to hear muse sing.

04 Nov. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:55 PM

Did you write all these?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:55 PM

Ballad (35)

Can season give me gift, to win
The chance to visit muse?
Should I hope to desires pin
On what friend's friend might choose?

I cannot ignore even chance
To share more than these lines.
I want to see stars in eyes dance,
And seek your hopes' designs.

I do not sleep, for dreams of you
That fill the cold and dark.
My visions warm, yet can't renew
The fire that your words spark.

Snow covers all, and offers chill
But solitary sight.
All stands alone: Hope cannot fill
This monochrome, cold night.

Yet, I still look to dream, and find
The light to guide my way:
You give to soul your smile, to bind
My heart to future day.

My angel sweet, my muse divine,
How can I your words earn?
I would give all to make you mine:
With you, my hopes return.

06 Dec. 03

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:59 PM

LH, Of course.

I have 1055 sonnets and 40 ballads, as of now... plus maybe 200 other poems.   

I do have sources of more sonnets, for when I run out here... I've been studying, and writing, sonnets since 1972.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:04 PM

I see. That's...unusual.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:16 PM

Each of us is unique, in some way.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:19 PM

but it does help to have a muse....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:25 PM

Yes, it does.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:31 PM

Ballad (36)

How might I cheer my muse, and bring
A smile to her sweet lips?
Shall I hope that my words might sing
Vision that her dream sips?

How can I ease concerns, or soothe
The ache of work, or heart?
Can I the roughness of world smooth
Or journeys to joy chart?

I do not know her present needs:
I simply know I care.
How can words that she only reads
Give comfort, or heart share?

Shall I whisper my love, and send
A volume of request?
Or do my pleas annoy, and lend
A sadness to her breast?

I long to wrap her in my arms,
And all of sorrow steal.
Yet, I must fear: Do hopes lend harms
To vision now made real?

She is heart's guide, but might I show
A path, to desires find?
I cannot ask for more, or know
What hopes she keeps in mind.

17 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: clairerise
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 12:31 PM

to ask a silly question maybe. is there supposed to be an end?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:36 PM

no.


sonnet 280 of 281...



Sonnet 06/04/06                           MLIV

Will dawn follow this darkness? Will I find
Another muse to offer smile or dream?
I search, but in her absence hope is blind:
There is not light enough for tears to gleam.
Stars give no guidance: I can see no spark,
Nor beacon fire to show my heart the way.
I do not know if caring has left mark
Upon me, that I cannot desires say.
What can I do, to inspiration hold?
Where can I find a future? Will hope give
Some chance to fulfill dream? Is wish too bold,
That I should never let such longings live?
Far better to have cared for muse now lost,
Than not know love, no matter what the cost.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 02:25 PM

Sonnet 30/01/03                   DCCLXXXIV

Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire. Why do I dream, in dark
And silence? I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark.
I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?
What hope had I to ever two hearts link?
I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest. I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met.
Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 02:44 PM

oh, yes. LH wanted the odd posts...


Ballad (37)

Is mage now worthy of his muse?
How can he know, for sure?
His efforts cannot questions lose,
Nor hopes his dreams assure.

He spends dark nights alone and cold,
In study, seeking wit.
He finds no spell to her heart hold,
Nor words to feelings fit.

All he can do is wait, and see
If he has earned her smile:
He wonders if muse might agree
To share the night a while.

He sees the moon, but knows it's glow
Reflects but her dreams' light:
The stars are gems that serve to show
That muse shares beauty's sight.

Can he place heart aside, and learn
All that his muse desires?
Can mind away from passions turn,
And think bare fact inspires?

She is far more than visions know,
And all that mage would need.
Yet, should he let his passions grow,
And not know where hopes lead?

18 Dec. 2003

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:15 PM

Sorry to butt in but I thought I'd already dealt with the thread question.

Thank you.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:16 PM

You had, but thanks for the chance to post again!

Ballad (38)

Might mage try to heal muse's heart
And give reason to smile?
Can he hope to from waiting part,
To place his dreams on trial?

He offers all to one who gives
The focus of his thought.
But, can he think that his dreams lives,
Or that hopes might be caught?

Mage sends muse tokens: Books, to show
That page past dreams preserve.
Will future some of his hopes know,
That words might praise deserve?

In dreaming, does he seek the source
Of his desire, or just
Let his emotions set the course,
And only passions trust?

Mage reaches out to muse, to hold
A part of heaven's light.
Yet, are his dreams now wise, or bold
To reach for one so bright?

All mage can know is that he seeks
One who touches his soul.
He cares not for the cost: Hope speaks,
And dream makes his heart whole.
                                                19 Jan. 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:25 PM

Sylvia's Mother is among the 20 worst songs of all time.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:29 PM

Compared to what? "Sylvia's Mother","I got stoned, and I missed it", "Roland the roadie and Gertrude the groupie", etc are a body of work that can not be so easily dismissed. Shel Silverstein was a lyric writer among the best the US has produced...

Now, IF Shatner had ever done a cover of it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:36 PM

http://www.houseoflyrics.com/d/artists/dr_hook

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:51 PM

It must be the wavelength they were on, I guess. I see song after song after song that I simply detested on that page you offer the link to. Argh! dreadful stuff. Gag me with a rubber toad.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:53 PM

What do you have against rubber toads?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 03:58 PM

http://behindthelyrics.net/browse/s/Shel_Silverstein

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

Oh Sahra Cynthia Sylvia Stout would not take the garbage out
She'd wash the dishes and scrub the pans cook the yams and spice the hams
And though her parents would scream and shout
She simply would not take the garbage out
And so it piled up to the ceilings coffee grounds potato peelings
Brown bananas and rotten peas chunks of sour cottage cheese
It filled the can it covered the floor it cracked the windows and blocked the door
With bacon rinds and chicken bones drippy ends of icecream cones
Prone pits peach pits orange peel gloppy glumps of cold oat meal
Pizza crust and withered greens soggy beans and tangerines
Crust of black burned buttered toast gristly bits of beefy roast
The garbage rolled on down the hall it raised the roof it broke the walls
I mean greesy napkins cookie crumbs blobs of gooey bubble gum
Cellophane from old baloney rubber blubbry macaroni
Peanut butter caced and dry curdled off milk and crusts of pie
Ridy melons dried up mustard eggs shells mixed with lemon custard
Cold french fries and rancid meat yellow lumps of cream of wheat
Uuh at last the garbage reached so high that finally it touched the sky
And none of her friends would come to play and all the neighbors moved away
And finally Sahra Cynthia Sylvia Stout said okay I'll take the garbage out
But then of course it was too late the garbage reached across the state
From New York to the Golden Gate and there in the garbage she did hate
Poor Sahra met an awful fate then I cannot right now relate
Because the hour is much too late
But children remember Sylvia Stout and always take the garbage out

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:16 PM

Kiss It Away
There´s a shadow on the sun I see it risin´
Kiss it away, Kiss it away
And there´s hurt down deep inside that I been hidin´
Kiss it away, Kiss it away
All the hard times we been through
We´d never mind them
We´d kiss ´em away, we´d just kiss ´em away
But now I´m lookin for the good times and I can´t find them
Guess we kissed them away, Must have kissed them away

Kiss away I keep thinkin´ the sun will shine once more
I´m never ready for the sudden rain
Don´t tell me I´m wrong, ´cause I been told
I feel so wet and cold
Come my pain

You keep hopin´ things´ll change and I keep tryin´
One of these days, maybe one of these days
But there´s a coldness in the air like somethin´ dyin'
Kiss it away, Come and kiss it away


http://www.nassio.com/silverstein/bio.html

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,hh
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 03:42 PM

peck Nile classified,traversal nonpersistent:valuables tabulations:- Tons of interesdting stuff!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 03:47 PM

sonnet 281 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 15/04/06                                 MLV

Can hope now be reborn, or will it fade
Without whisper from muse? Is there a chance
For dream, and heart's desire? Has soul been weighed,
And wanting found? Do my words lack romance?
Vision does not a future show, to give
Reason for other than more tears. In time,
Heart might some new light find, that dream might live,
Yet can another ever past muse mime?
Does desire for dream make me fool, to care
Unwanted? Are my longings less than real?
Was it too much, to think to starlight share
With one who has given dreams all they feel?
But for desire to always her smile earn,
I might just ask that muse my heart return.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 05:30 PM

And to every existing pile of dung, some fly must regularly return...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Jun 06 - 08:00 AM

Glad to see you back, LH...




Sonnet 282 of 287 to my last muse...


Sonnet 27/04/06                            MLVI

I do not own my muse: I am possessed
By longing for her gift. Will she words send,
Echoes of dream, or is silence the best
That heart might hope for, to my longings end?
I do not wish for freedom from the chain
Desire and dream have wound around my heart.
Yet, should heart under her spell still remain
When she has no need for my dreams to start?
I do not have reason to think that time
Will alter situation: All dreams feel
Cannot change past. Can I hope with my rhyme
To even echo of her whisper steal?
I know dream is not real, yet I will rest
Knowing I was, for a while, by muse blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 04:33 PM

took me a while to look that one up.

A Century of Immigration, 1820-1924
j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 06:49 PM

My muse married another man and is now expecting a child. Good thing, actually...they suit each other quite well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 07:49 PM

sonnet 283 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 28/04/06                                  MLVIII

Is there reason to dream, when dreams are all
Heart can expect to hold? Can dream inspire
Without some hope? Will heart find one to call
Sweet muse, and dearest friend, if dreams desire?
Is there reason to care, when my concern
Appears unwanted? Should I spend my thought
Where I can never hope to my hopes earn,
Though I see in her eyes all I have sought?
Is there reason to live, without the chance
To hold the one heart loves within my arms?
What is purpose, without hope for romance,
Of words, and hopes, and dreams about her charms?
Without reasons, I must still let my heart
Acknowledge that to muse I owe my art.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:08 PM

"Is there reason to dream, when dreams are all
Heart can expect to hold?"

Hell, yeah! Sure there is.

"Can dream inspire
Without some hope? "

Nope. You need hope to get inspiration. And vice versa. They go together.


"Will heart find one to call
Sweet muse, and dearest friend, if dreams desire?"

Listen, bub, if yer lookin' to find a hot dame ya don't do it by askin' mealy-mouthed questions like that last one! Geez! Gimme a break. I think I need a drink after readin' that.

"Is there reason to care, when my concern
Appears unwanted?"

No! Ya sap! Forget about a dame if she don't want you.

"Should I spend my thought
Where I can never hope to my hopes earn,
Though I see in her eyes all I have sought?"

Boy...we got a hopeless case here, don't we?

"Is there reason to live, without the chance
To hold the one heart loves within my arms?"

Not for you there ain't. Go jump off a bridge and end the friggin' misery now, I say...

"What is purpose, without hope for romance,
Of words, and hopes, and dreams about her charms?"

Oh, brother. Get a real job and SHUT UP!

"Without reasons, I must still let my heart
Acknowledge that to muse I owe my art."

You owe yer art to the fact that yer a pansy. Yer momma didn't bring you up right. No dame in her right mind would spend five minutes on a guy like you. Go talk to Woody Allen, cos he might have some sympathy for you. I don't. Gaaaah! I need a strong drink. Now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:13 PM

Thank you for your... interesting.... commentary, and the chance to post another sonnet.


Sonnet 08/05/06                                  MLIX

Is this the time to seek an avatar
Of muse, to give what she no longer cares
To offer me? Must heart find some new star
To guide to one who might lend hope repairs?
It hurts to lose her smile and know I'll hold
My muse no further time. Dream cannot keep
The tears from falling: Her silence has told
So much, with nothing. Even my hopes weep.
Yet, should I shadow seek when she is still
Within the reach of dream? She did not tell
That I could not think of her: Has heart will
To dream without hope, still under her spell?
It does not matter: How can heart replace
The one who lights dream with thought of her face?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Jersey Joe Gorilla
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:24 PM

I gotta sympathize with Chongo on this one, pal. Yer drivin' a lot of apes to drink with this sappy sonnet stuff of yours. Consider gettin' a job in a grocery store or somethin' instead, that's my advice.

Maybe try platform shoes. Or a decent haircut.

There has gotta be a human female out there that's dumb enough to fall for this line of yours, but you might get to old fer it to do ya any good before you find her. That's my take on it.

- Jersey Joe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 08:27 PM

Glad you like my work. Here is some more...

Ballad (39)

Far more than questions fill my mind,
When with my muse I speak:
To her sweet charms I am not blind:
Only resolve is weak.

How can I tell her all I seek,
When she is beyond touch?
How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?

Perhaps I care too much, to think
I might her tears remove.
Yet am I fool, to our dreams link
That she might hopes approve?

I do not want to make concern
An act in verse's play:
I need to show that I would earn
All of love, and friend stay.

Yet, can I be more than a fool,
To ask without the chance
To know if she might think me cruel
To try to win romance?

I cannot help but feel desire
Though cannot taste her lips.
Her words, and dreams burn soul like fire,
And passion my heart strips.

03 Nov 2004

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 09:38 PM

"How can I heart's desires speak,
Without saying too much?"

You've already said waaay too much, Roscoe...

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: 42
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:06 PM

I have so missed the zoo. I hope you've been sharing the sonnets somewhere BB.

j

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,skivee
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:52 PM

..So then the bishop sez," Not likely, mate. But what did she do with all the melons?"
Sorry, looks like I walked into the wrong room.
I'll just leave, then.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 06 - 01:07 PM

sonnet 285 of 287 to my last muse...



Sonnet 18/05/06                              MLX

Have I a reason now to care, when all
I hear from her is silence? Should I seek
To know of present dreams? Dare my words speak
About hope, or desire? Must my heart fall,
For having found this muse? I cannot call,
Yet need to know that she is well: I hold
To memory of smile. All I have told
Still remains true: Thought of her hopes install.
Dream does not fill need to her present know,
Nor what future might bring. She does not share
Worries, nor verse: How can I concerns show?
Heart aches, wanting to show that I still care,
But without chance or hope that hope might grow.
If only she for past had time to spare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jul 06 - 02:16 PM

Chongo,

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for rhetorical effect rather than for the purpose of getting an answer. ("How many times do I have to tell you to stop walking into the house with mud on your shoes?").

A rhetorical question seeks to encourage reflection within the listener as to what the answer to the question (at least, the answer implied by the questioner) must be. When a speaker declaims, "How much longer must our people endure this injustice?" or "Will our company grow or shrink?", no formal answer is expected. Rather, it is a device used by the speaker to assert or deny something"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 07:40 PM

?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: skipy
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 03:41 AM

??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 07:28 AM

Oh BOY! You want more sonnets!!!





Sonnet 286 of 288 to last muse...


Sonnet 23/06/06                                  MLXI

How long will I have even dream of you,
When all I hear is silence? Dare dream seek
For vision of your smile? Hopes are too few
To tell my heart reason you do not speak.
How long will I even for true love seek,
When all desire leads heart to just despair?
Without your smile, dream cannot to heart speak
Of hope, or holding in arms one to care.
How long will I long for what will not be,
Wasting my life looking for future lost?
Is there reason that I cannot break free
To love without my muse, and pay the cost?
Without the dream that thought of you still gives,
How can I think that love in future lives?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 11:07 AM

ack!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 11:15 AM

ok, if you insist on another...



sonnet 287 of 288 to my last muse...


Sonnet 27/06/06                           MLXII

The memory of dreaming of your eyes
Will have to serve to fulfill my desire:
I cannot ask for hope. Would you advise
That I forget just smile, or life, entire?
Dream of muse seems to be forever part
Of past, and present: Can future ignore
Vision I long to hold? Can you give heart
A reason to not wish to dream restore?
Heart has only a dream, to hope refine:
Should I deny concern that you are well,
Or that I want you happy? Is hope sign
That I will always be under your spell?
If dream of muse is all that I can hold,
Can heart ever have night it is not cold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 12:24 PM

Oh boy!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 12:51 PM

So, LH, you want ANOTHER sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 02:29 PM

Thanks for asking, LH.

288th sonnet to last muse...



Sonnet 13/07/06                                  MLXIII

Does love for muse require that one weep
When moon recalls past dreams, or stars remind
About her eyes? Can true desire sleep,
When night gives dream the power to heart bind?
She gives no sign she wants what I might send,
Nor does she share her dreams, to feed my own.
Yet, even silence cannot longings end
When I think of past inspiration shown.
Should I admit concern, or think to hide
That she still matters to my heart? I know
I should not hope nor dream to her confide,
But thoughts of her always my caring show.
It does not matter what I say, or feel:
Without her, how can any hope be real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 02:32 PM

F*ck, no!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 02:33 PM

8*{>

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 03:33 PM

Welcome back old friend [the thread I mean Bruce ]
G.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:53 PM

Well, I have been last, longest... And I KNOW you want me to put a bunch more sonnets on here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 04:11 PM

this tread is listed as being last written to on 13-Jun 05- ( actual date 04 Oct 06) so I thought I would reset the date.



Contributions are always welcome, as are requests for more sonnets....


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 07:02 PM

George Bush is an alien who has been planted on Earth to destroy western civilization. Paris Hilton is another. The question is, which one is the greater threat?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 07 - 07:37 PM

There is one person who can not be last in this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 07 - 04:19 AM

I was right!
Saw this thread had been revived, and said to myself, "I bet that's Bruce's work"
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Lowkey
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 12:14 AM

Silly Boys

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 11:59 AM

more sonnets?


http://www.washington.org/shakespeare/details.cfm?partid=18&eventid=69

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 07 - 01:24 PM

Well, I have had 5 minutes of my 15...


http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=81158&paper=60&cat=115






Who wants some sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 May 07 - 02:37 PM

Congrats, Bruce. Nicely done! Now, why hide it in this thread? Surely it deserves a new thread about sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 07 - 02:40 PM

I try to put my sonnets in this thread, so that others who wish to avoid them may do so.

But if you want me to,...

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 May 07 - 02:57 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 07 - 03:14 PM

Was that a call for a sonnet?


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 07 - 03:21 PM

Since you asked, my award-winning sonnet ( yes, it was a juried panel)


Sonnet 24/01/02                        DCL

A sonnet is a frozen tear, a kiss,
Preserved in fourteen lines. It is a pearl
Of layered thought, a gem too bright to miss
When set on page: One blossom, to unfurl
To perfect flower. As amber, sealed soul
In timeless tomb, it can show time long past,
Or hold this instant in it's grasp. The whole
Of heart upon one single page, to last
Beyond even our dreams, it seems a sip,
Distilled to essence. Refined within mind,
Lines sing sweet song, and rhymes in patterns slip,
To weave image that leaves mere vision blind.
A single chord, to resound in one's heart:
Echo of past that might our future start.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 07 - 04:20 PM

Giok,

Thank you for the "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh". As you put 14 "a"s AND 14 "r"s, ( for the number of lines in a sonnet), and 8 "g"s ( for the octet), I have to wonder why you had 17 "h"s? One more, and it would be the number of lines in a caudated sonnet.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 07 - 02:45 PM

http://www.sonnets.org/

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,LowKey cookie gone
Date: 19 May 07 - 12:30 PM

Only Little Hawk can be last, according to the King James edition.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 May 07 - 12:31 PM

The trouble with someone being "last" is...you never know when that is going to happen. There are some things that just aren't worth waiting for, frankly.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 07 - 12:56 PM

OK, LH,

That is long enough to let you be last.


And since you asked-( You DID ask, didn't you? I heard some faint moaning...)



Sonnet 24/01/03                        DCCLXXXII

I weep, but my tears freeze: I hear them break,
Shattered to dust. What can I do, to mourn
All I have lost? Ashes and sackcloth make
Small change in my attire, and all is torn.
What flowers might I bring, to past dream's grave?
It does not matter: Just clay is at hand.
All blows away- I cannot even save
Memories from chill wind, nor frost withstand.
Winter has truly come: My heart feels chill,
Beyond the touch of fire. Hope has no place
Of refuge, nor can desires linger still:
Only despair alone can season face.
Numb with the cold, fingers struggle to write:
In truth, the color of death may be white.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 07 - 03:13 PM

or maybe something more positive...



Sonnet 29/03/05                         CMXCI

You are too beautiful to just ignore,
Yet too young to ask more than your sweet smile.
What can I say, to show that you restore
The joy to late nights, and my thoughts beguile?
Can words begin to tell the gentle thrill
That flash of your eyes gives the night? Can page
Hold how you make me feel? Your bright looks fill
This crowded room, and make me forget age.
Yet, should I bother to tell of the powers
You hold in glance? Perhaps you know how much
Smile gives, but would you want me to spend hours
Trying to find out what might your dreams touch?
Thought of you dreams allow, but should I let
Sight of a dream all of Reason upset?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 07 - 03:53 PM

Terza Rima to A.S.


Are you Persephone, that half the year
You rule the underworld? Could that be why
Those of us nearer death find you so dear?


Are you an angel who would wings deny
That we not know how close to heaven's goal
One might approach? Should we not seek to try?


Or, are you Faerie queen, to steal the soul
Of those who taste your kiss? Should I now fear
That dreams give Sidhe the right to demand toll?


                                        12 May 2005

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,The Mighty Mac
Date: 21 May 07 - 06:20 PM

The Wreck of the Whaler "Oscar"

'TWAS on the 1st of April, and in the year of Eighteen thirteen,
That the whaler "Oscar" was wrecked not far from Aberdeen;
'Twas all on a sudden the wind arose, and a terrific blast it blew,
And the "Oscar" was lost, and forty-two of a gallant crew.

The storm burst forth with great violence, but of short duration,
And spread o'er a wide district, and filled the people's hearts with consternation,
And its effects were such that the people will long mind,
Because at Peterhead the roof was torn off a church by the heavy wind.

The "Oscar" joined other four ships that were lying in Aberdeen Bay,
All ready to start for Geeenland without delay,
While the hearts of each ship's crew felt light and gay,
But, when the storm burst upon them, it filled their hearts with dismay.

The wind had been blowing westerly during the night,
But suddenly it shifted to the North-east, and blew with all its might,
And thick and fast fell the blinding snow,
Which filled the poor sailors' hearts with woe.

And the "Oscar" was exposed to the full force of the gale,
But the crew resolved to do their best, allowing they should fail,
So they weighed anchor, and stood boldly out for sea,
While the great crowds that had gathered cheered them encouragingly.

The ill-fated "Oscar," however, sent a boat ashore
For some of her crew that were absent, while the angry sea did roar,
And 'twas with great difficulty the men got aboard,
And to make the ship allright they wrought with one accord.

Then suddenly the wind shifted, and a treacherous calm ensued,
And the vessel's deck with snow was thickly strewed;
And a heavy sea was running with a strong flood tide,
And it soon became apparent the men wouldn't be able the ship to guide.

And as the "Oscar" drifted further and further to leeward,
The brave crew tried hard her backward drifting to retard,
But all their efforts proved in vain, for the storm broke out anew,
While the drifting snow hid her from the spectators' view.

And the position of the "Oscar" was critical in the extreme,
And as the spray washed o'er the vessel, O what a soul-harrowing scene!
And notwithstanding the fury of the gale and the blinding snow,
Great crowds watched the "Oscar" as she was tossed to and fro.

O heaven! it was a most heart-rending sight
To see the crew struggling against the wind and blinding snow with all their might,
While the mighty waves lashed her sides and angry did roar,
Which to their relatives were painful to see that were standing on shore.

All eagerly watching her attempt to ride out the storm,
Especially their friends and relatives, who seemed very forlorn,
Because the scene was awe-inspiring and made them stand aghast,
For every moment seemed to be the "Oscar's" last.

Oh! it was horrible to see the good ship in distress,
Battling hard against wind and tide to clear the Girdleness.
A conspicuous promontory on the south side of Aberdeen Bay,
Where many a stout ship and crew have gone down passing that way.

At last the vessel was driven ashore in the bay of Greyhope,
And the "Oscar" with the elements no longer could cope.
While the big waves lashed her furiously, and she received fearful shocks,
Until a mighty wave hurled her among large boulders of rocks.

And when the vessel struck, the crew stood aghast,
But they resolved to hew down the mainmast,
Which the spectators watched with eager interest,
And to make it fall on the rocks the brave sailors tried their best.

But, instead of falling on the rocks, it dropped into the angry tide,
Then a groan arose from those that were standing on the shore side;
And the mainmast in its fall brought down the foremast,
Then all hope of saving the crew seemed gone at last.

And a number of the crew were thrown into the boiling surge below,
While loud and angry the stormy wind did blow,
And the good ship was dashed to pieces from stern to stem,
Within a yard or two from their friends, who were powerless to save them.

Oh! it was an appalling sight to see the "Oscar" in distress,
While to the forecastle was seen clinging brave Captain Innes
And five of a crew, crying for help, which none could afford,
Alas! poor fellows, crying aloud to God with one accord!

But their cry to God for help proved all in vain,
For the ship and men sank beneath the briny main,
And out of a crew of forty-four men, only two were saved,
But, landsmen, think how manfully that unfortunate crew behaved.

And also think of the mariners while you lie down to sleep,
And pray to God to protect them while on the briny deep,
For their hardships are many, and hard to endure,
There's only a plank between them and a watery grave, which makes their lives unsure.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 07:05 AM

Longer poems, then?

How about a sonnet redouble?


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 07:32 AM

OK, it HAS been over three years since I posted the Sonnet Redouble. I'll get it on here this afternoon.


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,The Mighty Mac
Date: 22 May 07 - 10:56 AM

I sense that it is time for another poetic work of grandeur from that wonderful age of glory when the rest of the world was merely a minor addendum to Great Britain, an opportunity, as it were, to stretch forth an enlightening and kindly hand of imperial assistance unto the heathen hordes wallowing in distant places...

Ahem!

The Collision in the English Channel

'TWAS on a Sunday morning, and in the year of 1888,
The steamer "Saxmundham," laden with coal and coke for freight,
Was run into amidships by the Norwegian barque "Nor,"
And sunk in the English Channel, while the storm fiend did roar.

She left Newcastle on Friday, in November, about two o'clock,
And proceeded well on her way until she received a shock;
And the effects of the collision were so serious within,
That, within twenty minutes afterwards, with water she was full to the brim.

The effects of the collision were so serious the water couldn't be staunched,
So immediately the "Saxmundham's" jolly-boat was launched;
While the brave crew were busy, and loudly did clatter,
Because, at this time, the stem of the steamer was under water.

Then the bold crew launched the lifeboat, without dismay,
While their hearts did throb, but not a word did they say;
They tried to launch the port lifeboat, but in that they failed,
Owing to the heavy sea, so their sad fate they bewailed.

Then into the jolly-boat and lifeboat jumped fifteen men in all,
And immediately the steamer foundered, which did their hearts appal,
As the good ship sank beneath the briny wave,
But they thanked God fervently that did them save.

Oh! it was a miracle how any of them were saved,
But it was by the aid of God, and how the crew behaved;
Because God helps those that help themselves,
And those that don't try to do so are silly elves.

So the two boats cruised about for some time,
Before it was decided to pull for St. Catherine;
And while cruising about they must have been ill,
But they succeeded in picking up an engineer and fireman, also Captain Milne.

And at daybreak on Sunday morning the men in the lifeboat
Were picked up by the schooner "Waterbird" as towards her they did float,
And landed at Weymouth, and made all right
By the authorities, who felt for them in their sad plight.

But regarding the barque "Nor," to her I must return,
And, no doubt, for the drowned men, many will mourn;
Because the crew's sufferings must have been great,
Which, certainly, is soul-harrowing to relate.

The ill-fated barque was abandoned in a sinking state,
But all her crew were saved, which I'm happy to relate;
They were rescued by the steamer "Hagbrook" in the afternoon,
When after taking to their boats, and brought to Portland very soon.

The barque "Nor" was bound from New York to Stettin,
And when she struck the "Saxmundham," oh! what terrible din!
Because the merciless water did rush in,
Then the ship carpenters to patch the breach did begin.

But, alas! all their efforts proved in vain,
For still the water did on them gain;
Still they resolved to save her whatever did betide,
But, alas! the ill-fated "Nor" sank beneath the tide.

But thanks be to God, the major part of the men have been saved,
And all honour to both crews that so manfully behaved;
And may God protect the mariner by night and by day
When on the briny deep, far, far away!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:04 AM

Since you seem to insist...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:06 AM

or do you?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 11:15 AM

see post at Date: 14 May 04 - 12:02 PM on this thread-

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:45 PM

You know, I hadn't looked at this thread before, but somebody called my attention to it today by complaining about it. I have to say that I have rarely seen such a collection of doggerel.
So, are people actually supposed to read this stuff?
Is there any doggerel worth reading in the mess?
Do I have to read it to find out?

Sometimes, when I post a message like this, it ends up being the last post; and then I wonder what it is about me that killed the thread. Is it my deodorant? Why did everybody leave?

Hmmmm. Maybe I should go make up some doggerel for this thread. I really like doggerel.....

-Joe, musing-

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:48 PM

"So, are people actually supposed to read this stuff?"


YES!

Even the worst verst
Can serve
As bad example.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:50 PM

But best to go to the beginning:

Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM

And see what we have woven, in this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:31 PM

Date: 29 Mar 04 - 07:19 AM

how about "Cave Canem" loosely translated from the lation as "beware of the doggerel".


Date: 29 Mar 04 - 10:49 AM

cats should always beware of doggerels..

Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:11 PM

well it's raining caterwaul and doggerel here today!

jen


Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:03 PM

I know - I just stepped in a poodle!


Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:56 PM

This thread should be catatonic by now.

Date: 31 Mar 04 - 03:19 AM

Not while it's still raining Datsun cogs.
John

Date: 31 Mar 04 - 05:28 AM

Mudcatapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

I have a mudcatapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.

(quote from Amostotle)


Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:06 AM

gee...i didn't know we were still "rockin" in the free world!

j


Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM

If you have to give her money - it's hardly a free world.


Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:27 AM

i take no responsibility for those rocks, or the money. if you'look, you'll see this was a quite from the ancient Mudcatter, Amostotle.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:33 PM

John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 12:56 PM

As he rode up on his hobby-horse, waving his freshly ground axe, with his faithful doggerel by his side, "A verse, a verse, my kingom is averse" he said. While the announcer cried out, "The quatrain now arriving at platforms 5,6,7,8, and 9, is coming in sideways" All together they sang....
I could write a sonnet
About your old car's bonnet
And of the hood that's on it
To o'fender you all.

My other poem is a limerick

There was a young couple from Pitlochry
Who were having it off in the rockery
When she found he was done, before she'd begun
She said, "That's not a fuck, it's a mockery.

TTFN....Giok

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 May 07 - 03:18 PM

OK, another sonnet...


Sonnet 20/10/04                           CMXLIV

A muse remains forever: Part of heart
That forms the core of soul. Could I forget
What you have meant to me? Thoughts of you start
To weave new dreams, though they must past regret.
That we have parted ways does not require
I do not care about you: You are one
That helped heart heal, and some of dream inspire,
Though I may think that you will my dreams shun.
Thought of you still has power: You stir mind
With just hello. Should I chance of smile fear?
I cannot ask that you be more than kind,
But hope you understand: Are concerns clear?
At least for now, I know that you are well:
Is that enough, or might heart feelings tell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:44 AM

ok, it has been a long enough time. I will post a sonnet here today: first one written in a while.

I'll take bribes ( cash preferred) to not post it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 12:57 PM

ok, I gave you over two hours, and there were no bribes...


Sonnet 07/07/07                               MLXIV

This muse's moon gives evening silver light,
But dream cannot see other than the past.
How can I find a source of verse so bright
As thought of her? Does only darkness last?
Dawn does not offer hope: Each day remains
Without a muse's fire. How can heart find
Echo of beauty, when dream's darkness stains
The memory of times I was not blind?
Eyes open, but see nothing: Sight is gray,
When noon light should show all of life's real shades.
What can I do, to remove tears, but pray
To find true muse before all of hope fades?
Time does not alter that I care, nor change
The hope muse might one day these dreams arrange.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:04 PM

Sorry, I was busy.

I dare you to post another 15 of them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:20 PM

"I dare you to post another 15 of them... "

If you insist...

Five at a time: Sonnets to Katie Elizabeth (1-5 of 173)

Sonnet 23/05/01                        DLVIII

I cannot alter Time's slow march, to speed
The days, or slow the hours. If I could change
The years, I would not stay so far, nor need
To censure dreams, and desires rearrange.
I cannot send what you deserve, to ease
The effort of your days. Can words lend care,
From one as I? How can my verses please,
Or offer solace? Should I dead dreams share?
I cannot offer heart, though your words reach
Into my dreams: I have no right to ask
That you care for me, nor can I heart touch
To see beyond those dreams, or longing mask.
I see a flame in you, to light my soul,
Yet cannot reach to it, or time control.


Sonnet 27/06/01                        DLXVI

Hotter and brighter than blonde or brunette,
I find your hair draws my attention to
The fire in eyes, and to that smile, set
Within your heart-shaped face. I know too few,
Who glow with passion's flame, to allow age
To keep me silent: Image pleases heart.
Yet, should I let dreams with desire rage,
When I cannot even hope to dreams start?
Should I tell you desires, when I will stay
Apart, by years and miles? I do not think
My concern offers more than words, but say
That I still care: My heart to dreams I link.
Will you offer kind words, and let me dream,
Or hold heart to hard facts, and fate redeem?


Sonnet 20/08/01                                DLXX

And I shall dream of your sweet smile, and pray
To see another, and another one,
As often as the sun shines, and let play
My dreams with soft delight, that they might run
The patterns of my heart. I may demand
No more than words, yet find your words inspire
More than an echo of past hope, and fanned
Dead ashes into all-consuming fire.
Might I preserve these dreams, to have heart hope
Beyond all reason? I know only cause
For friendship: Shall I let your words be rope,
To bind my soul? Shall my hopes never pause?
You call me dear, yet know I have not earned
Even the chance to share what I have learned.


Sonnet 25/08/01                        DLXXI

I hunger for your smile, that heart might feed
On honey sweetness, instead of this lime
Of broken dreams. Faint hope is all I need
For heart to find sustenance at this time.
You draw my thoughts away from written lines
To those desires I dare not allow heart:
Yet, might I try to read into these signs
More than appreciation for my art?
You tempt me with your words, to seek desires,
Yet I know you are only kind, to call
Me dear. But even thought of smile inspires,
And heart could to your eyes and soft smile fall.
How shall I hold my heart, with you so sweet:
Dreams cannot advance, yet dare not retreat.


Sonnet 28/08/01                        DLXXII

Shall I send words of passion and desire,
Or butterflies of verse, to tickle fancy?
I'd not of conversation have you tire:
What might I send, that you might my dreams see?
I offer heart, but know in truth you hold
Some part with your sweet words. How might I show
The pleasure comments share, how your words mold
My dreams? Might I let some of passion grow?
And how else might I bring a smile to eyes
Too far away to look within? I've not
Hope to be more than friend, yet heart defies
All common sense: My hope is all I've got.
Shall I just think of you, and let the night
Offer those visions that to dream are sight?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:22 PM

Sonnets to Katie Elizabeth (6-10 of 173)


Sonnet 29/08/01                        DLXXIII

How can I catch your dreams, when I desire
To follow where they lead? My heart must know
It dare not capture shadow of the fire
That I see in your words. Can my lines show
How dear I hold your smile? Heart will be held
On far too short a chain to be lost, yet
I risk falling. Heat of desires might weld
My passions to my poems. But, can I let
Even a chance of muse escape? I find
I care about your smile, though have no right
To ask for more. My visions are still blind
To what they ask: In muse I find my light.
Though I cannot touch hand, nor cheek, nor lip
Perhaps my verse might into your dreams slip.


Sonnet 31/8/01                                DLXXIV

I wish that I was close enough to see
Into your eyes, and kiss your neck, and feel
The heat within your breath. I cannot flee
From dreams that thoughts of your sweet words reveal.
I wish that I held you within my arms,
Safe from the storm, and offered you the taste
Of ripe strawberries. Shall heart see alarms
In parallels to past? I have fears faced.
I wish that I might know how to bring smile,
To ease endeavors, and to show I care.
I'm too distant to send more than words, while
I long to send my heart, and my dreams share.
All that I wish may be my own desires:
Might you yet offer hope for future fires?


Sonnet 03/9/01                                DLXXVI

Might you yet offer hope for future fires,
That my dreams would a clearer vision see?
Or will you of our conversations tire,
And seek to only of my verse be free?
Will you be kind, and smile, and offer chance
To share your thoughts? I cannot your heart claim,
Nor give what I desire. Years hold romance
At distance; Yet, I can't emotions tame.
Can you now understand how deep words reach
To heart and dreams? Do you realize how sweet
Thought of your smile becomes? Might I beseech
Some token, to my heart's desire complete?
I cannot alter hope, nor age repair:
Are words and dreams to be all that we share?


Sonnet 4/9/01                                DLXXVII

Are words and dreams to be all that we share
Without hope for my heart's desires? I hold
To each sweet word, and pray that dreams might dare
What age does not allow, to heart enfold.
Can I imagine hugging you, and think
That I would let you go? You kiss my cheek,
And heart is chained to dreams. Hope forms each link,
Now forged within the passion's fire I seek.
Too far to hold, but not to far to reach
Within my dreams: You capture heart as thrall.
How can I show what your sweet touches teach,
Or how your written words to my dreams call?
Your words have a power greater than mine:
With one sweet word, my heart and soul are thine.


Sonnet 5/9/01                                DLXXVIII

With one sweet word, my heart and soul are thine
To do with what you wish. For your soft kiss
I give all my dreams, that I might refine
A purer vision of passion and bliss.
With one sweet smile, you restore to verse hope
That Muse still offers gift. My dreams still flow
Onto the page: Thoughts of you are the scope
Of visions that in my dreams focus show.
With one sweet thought, you lift my spirit, to
See hope beyond the clouds. You are my sun,
Giving me light: My verse reflects a view
That I rejoice in, that I've kisses won.
How can I tell you how much your note heals,
While heart's desire to thought of your smile seals?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:24 PM

Sonnets to Katie Elizabeth (11-15 of 173)


Sonnet 5/9/01                                DLXXIX

While heart's desire to thought of your smile seals
My vision, I dare not allow my mind
To dwell on years or distance: My heart feels,
But cannot help being to logic blind.
In dreams I seek, but cannot of you ask
In fairness. Yet, dreams of what may not be
Provide my vision: Only cold facts mask
The light of passion that I long to see.
The hope I find does not on touch depend,
Nor must I see your smile to dreams restore.
Yet, heart would trace your neck, and kisses send,
And dreams cannot the depth of eyes ignore.
Heart gives no guidance, to resolve my fate:
How can I care, and not my fears relate?


Sonnet 7/9/01                                DLXXX

How can I care, and not my fears relate,
That dreams will come to naught? Heart is the prize
Put up by soul: Yet, should I hesitate
To look for heart's desire within your eyes?
Can I my vision of your smile retain
From far away? Your words offer me chance
For dream, and for desire, but years may strain
This hope to touch your heart, and seek romance.
Would it matter, if I should place my dreams
Upon this page? Can I expect for you
To offer more than smile? Yet, that smile seems
To be worth all my dreams, and far more true.
Can I some portion of feelings impart?
Am I a fool, to seek to reach your heart?


Sonnet 7/9/01                                DLXXXI

Am I a fool, to seek to reach your heart
With only written word? I do not know
How to run lines through hair, or let my art
Touch gently on your cheek, and to neck go.
I cannot look in eyes, nor feel your skin,
Nor hear your whispers: Yet, in dreams I hold
You in my arms, and hope to your heart win.
In dreams, you look at me, and I'm not old.
Can I, outside of dream, find vision to
Inspire? Must I abandon hope to find
My heart's desire, and should I only view
Those images I know will be, in mind?
I do not know what dreams' result might be:
I wish that I was close enough to see.


Sonnet 8/9/01                        DLXXXII

How shall I offer you a token of
The worth of dreams? I have not wealth, to pay
True value, yet words alone cannot say
How precious thought is. My dreams are above
Gold or faceted gems, though perhaps weigh
Less than sunlight. What might I do, to show
The power of your smile? How can the glow
Of eyes be captured, or my dreams heart say?
I think of you, and someday hope to share
A sunset. I do not know place, or year,
But dreams are now a part of me. I care
When you frown, and would seek to hold you near
In storm or thunder. Might I in dream dare
To touch your lips, and your sweet whispers hear?


Sonnet 9/9/01                        DLXXXIII

I hold my arms around you, in my mind,
And dream you lean against me. I can feel
The touch of your hair upon face, and find
I cannot hope to my desires conceal.
I hold my dreams of you, and cannot hide
From how your words affect me. Should I send
My heart, to seek your smile, or keep inside
My feelings, and this chance of passion end?
I hold onto my hopes and ignore years
That should my passions cool. Your eyes lend fire
To dreams: Yet, dare I try to face the fears
That you will cease to send words to inspire?
For all I hold, and all that I might say,
You control whether my dreams leave, or stay.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:24 PM

More??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:27 PM

hmm... Silence implies consent....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:29 PM

OK, one more. 1 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 01/10/04   At Franklin's                        CMXXXV

A pixie in plaid pants, you offer sight
To ease these tired eyes. Perhaps in dream
I might have chance to thank you for the light
You give imagination. Do you seem
To smile? What might I say, to have you glance
In my direction? Years keep me from thought
Of more than dreams. You leave: I have no chance
To find if dreams might add to more than naught.
Will I see you another night, and stare
As if I might see your desires, or try
To know what you are thinking? Might I share
These words, though age must hopes and dreams deny?
I do not ask that you reply: Just let
A foolish man his ramblings not regret.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:31 PM

More tomorrow, LH. Thanks for asking!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 06:14 PM

I'm sorry, it's just I've already booked the last post.

Oh, carry on. Just let me know when you've finished, cos I've got the booking form confirmation and everything.



    Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 06:54 PM

Wonderful! I can harly wait till tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:34 AM

And how many do you want today? I do not post more than two a day (per earlier agreement) UNLESS they are requested, you recall...


Sonnet 09/05/01                                DXLVIII

I read your words, and my dreams try to feel
The coolness of soft silk, and warmth of skin:
I would reach out, and with sweet kisses seal
My heart, that I might heart's desire win.
As soft, and subtle scented as a rose,
But without thorns, you pull me to your soul.
I touch, with lips and tongue, yet hope heart knows
How much these dreams can of my hopes take toll.
I reach to touch you, but words do not hold
The softness of your lips, nor feel of hair.
How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?
Would you, then, drive me crazy with desire
When distance and some years prevent love's fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:26 AM

LH

"Wonderful! I can harly wait till tomorrow. "


Shouldn't that be "harley" ?

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:48 AM

Maybe it should've been "barely"?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 09:03 AM

maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 03:21 PM

2nd sonnet for today ( on this thread)


2nd of 12 for Persephone


Sonnet 29/03/05                         CMXCI

You are too beautiful to just ignore,
Yet too young to ask more than your sweet smile.
What can I say, to show that you restore
The joy to late nights, and my thoughts beguile?
Can words begin to tell the gentle thrill
That flash of your eyes gives the night? Can page
Hold how you make me feel? Your bright looks fill
This crowded room, and make me forget age.
Yet, should I bother to tell of the powers
You hold in glance? Perhaps you know how much
Smile gives, but would you want me to spend hours
Trying to find out what might your dreams touch?
Thought of you dreams allow, but should I let
Sight of a dream all of Reason upset?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 04:30 PM

Odd how this thread never seems to end, isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 04:33 PM

You should be proud of your creation, LH.


But did you want any more sonnets today?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:24 PM

Don't feel you have to hold back...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: ranger1
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:26 PM

Oh, yes, please Bruce! One more for the road!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 05:33 AM

OK, if you insist.   8-{E


3rd of 12 to Persephone



Sonnet 31/03/05                         CMXCIII

Seeing curl upon forehead, I must ask
If you're like girl in rhyme: Are you now good
As looks and smile suggest, or do they mask
Some inner imp? I know not if I should
Try to find out: Do I annoy, with verse?
You do not seem to mind, but let me know
If I should cease, or make greeting more terse.
I seek only to effect on me show.
I do not know how to beauty ignore,
Nor eyes as yours not look to see. I try,
But fail: Only my absence could insure
I would not look at you, and my words ply.
Perhaps it does not matter, but I plead
You do not object to my verses read.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 09:16 AM

4th of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 27/05/05    MidNight at Franklin's    MVII

The witching hour, and you have cast a spell,
That I watch every move you make. I try
To turn away, but eyes return. Thoughts tell
I am a fool, but cannot hopes deny.
I watch you dance, and dream, but dare not ask
For more than smile. I cannot find the nerve
To offer more than words, though my words mask
Desires: Yet, what can my mere words deserve?
You light dreams with your smile, and fill the night
With flash of eyes: Should I not let dreams form
In which I wake at dawn holding you tight,
Or of chill evening when I'd keep you warm?
How can I dream, and not be thought a fool?
Your beauty all of reason overrules.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:21 PM

I hope you have not cheated by repeating any of these sonnets...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:28 PM

You can feel free to check the serial numbers...


I have 1064 of them- I have tried NOT to repeat any of them, but may have slipped up. If you find any, let me know and I will get you other ones to make up for it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:51 PM

So, where did everyone go? I have posted how many sonnets, with nary a word of protest:


"Where are the "NO!"s of yesteryear?"

BB Villon

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:39 PM

How would you even know the exact number you have of them by this time? Are you obsessive-compulsive or something?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:48 PM

OK, let me 'splain this:

Sonnet 10/06/05 is the date I finished this sonnet, in dd/mm/yy format

MX is the serial number in Roman numerals (1010 in Arabic numerals). Shakespeare's sonnets are numbered in this fashion: I started at I, and just add one to that number each time I finish one.

This is the 5th sonnet of 12 written to someone known here as Persphone. ( from my index)



Sonnet 10/06/05                                  MX

Now, what is it about you that I find
To steal my thoughts, and dreams? I think your eyes;
I can't ignore your glance, yet you remind
Of no one else. Is dreaming of you wise?
Perhaps, your smile; All others seem to fade
Upon your bright look. Yes, I find pleasure
In just seeing you, but your smile has made
Ordinary evening into treasure.
Yet, you have something, beyond eyes, or smile:
I do not know why you capture my dream,
Just that you do. Should I ask questions, while
I have chance to watch you, and hopes redeem?
Would you allow my dreams, or should I cease?
Should your continued smile my dreams increase?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 02:12 PM

BB must be on or in something but I don't know what's sonnet or innit?





       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 02:14 PM

My first sonnet was "Sonnet 05/12/73      I", so I have been writing them for almost 34 years. That is less than 32 a year- plenty of time between writing them to index who they were written to, when, and the first lines.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 07:07 PM

Have any of them achieved the desired effect?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 10:50 AM

Since poetry, in reality, expresses the thoughts and feeling of the poet, I like to think that all have had the desired effect.

If you mean did the recipient enjoy them, and demonstrate in the desired ( by me) manner that enjoyment, I will neither confirm nor deny your comment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 10:57 AM

6th of 12 sonnets written to Persephone


Sonnet 27/09/05                                        MXXII

Looking for one who might appear, I wait,
Not knowing if she will be here. Her eyes
Might seasons change, but is this waiting wise,
Without reason that she would hopes relate?
Yet, I cannot help but hope it is fate
She will be here tonight, to with bright glance
This evening grace: I must leave hope to chance
That she shares smile, and some of her dreams state.
Alas! Night fades, without her: All I hold
Are dreams and empty glasses. Can I find
Enough moonlight, to future hopes inspire?
The night is warm, but I find star-shine cold,
Not seen mirrored in eyes. Does desire blind
My dreams, and soul, to all but her eyes' fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 02:46 PM

LH - more to the point , has the life of each of us had the desired effect, surely?



Alternatively, the questions of the desired effect in either case are misconceived.





      Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 02:51 PM

7th of 12 sonnets written to Persephone


Sonnet 06/10/05                                        MXXV

Shall I ask now for reasons you might smile,
Making the night worth remaining awake?
Would you reply? Can I dream of you, while
Desires hide from speech for fear of mistake?
Shall I longing for touch deny, or state
I would not kiss pursue? I will not lie:
That dreams excite gives reason to stay late,
And sight of you reasons for dream supply.
Shall I pretend I even have a choice,
To flash of eyes ignore? You focus thought
Upon desire: Smile gives cause to rejoice,
And hope, even in vain, is what dreams sought.
Might I imagine that you smile for me?
How can I not want all of dreams to be?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 07:50 AM

Sonnet 8 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 28/10/05                         MXXVII

Have you been told how beautiful you are,
Today? The sight of you gives my heart cause
To dream, and wonder. Would you my dreams bar,
Or ask imagination to now pause?
Are you aware the impact of your eyes
Upon a weary soul? I dare not tell
The power you command: If I were wise,
I would seek to not be under your spell.
I dare not hold you: I could not let go,
Nor find words to say how you make me feel.
Yet, would it matter if I let you know
That dreams are more to me than what is real?
I look at you, and wish to more than dream:
But know I'd never loss of smile redeem.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: balladeer
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 11:57 AM

I have seen the heart of darkness in the sad affairs of state
Felt the chill of evil as it crept through freedom's gate
So I go and help my neighbour 'cause what else can I do?
And then I vote my conscience, and I hope that you do too.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM

Sonnet 17/02/03                        DCCLXXXVII

If blood be price of empire, what's the cost
To stand aside, and let tyrants hold sway?
What moral ground remains, if we have lost
The will to stand firm and "No further!" say?
Can we ignore this danger to our lives,
Or risk our children's future? Is the threat
Of promised pain of no concern? Hate strives
To stop us: Will we all of past forget?
Do we hide from our duty, with the fear
That there might be a price to what is right?
We know what must be done: It may appear
That we can wait, but should we withhold might?
All evil needs to triumph is for good
To turn away and not do what it should.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 01:25 PM

A chinese bricklayer named Fong
Had a "tool" so incredibly long
A professor named Blake
Mistook it for a snake
Now it's in a glass case in Hong Kong

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 02:11 PM

Dimeters

To dream, to touch,
To seek too much:
To ask for more
Than words call for.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: balladeer
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 02:44 PM

I have seen the face of anguish
I have heard the voice of pain
In the mother who is marching
And the son who has no name
So I go and help my neigbour
Cause what else can I do?
And then I vote my conscience
And I hope that you do to.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 02:53 PM

I wish
                I was your seatbelt
                around your hips,
                to hold you,
                safe,
                from sudden stops.

                I'd keep you within
                my arms
                until,
                depressed,
                I release.

                1/7/80

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: balladeer
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 07:57 PM

Hey Bruce, did you just maake that up?
If not you, who?
It's fantastic!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Alan Day
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 02:25 PM

Saturday Morning Picture song

We come along on Saturday morning
Greeting everybody with a smile
We come along on Saturday morning
Knowing that it's all worth while
As members of the GB club we all intend to be
Good citizens when we grow up
and champions of the free
We come along on Saturday morning
Greeting everybody
with a SMILE SMILE SMILE
Greeting everybody with a smile.

HOORAY

Al

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 07:42 AM

Yes, that was one of mine, from long ago... ( note date)

Sonnet 9 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 03/11/05                                        MXXVIII

Might you teach me how to find words to say,
That tell what seeing your smile gives to me?
Sight of your elven eyes takes breath away:
Thought of you gives heart chance for hope to be.
I dream, but dare not hold you: Should I plead
That you be more than beauty seen afar?
What might I offer that would your dreams feed,
Or give reason you'd join me under star?
It does not matter what I wish were real:
Heart cannot alter what has been, nor find
The path to future I desire, nor steal
What is not offered. Should my dreams be blind?
I am a fool, to dream, when you remain
Only desire heart cannot hope to gain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 03:39 PM

Sonnet 10 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 15/12/05                         MXXXVIII

In dream I find the chance to hold you near,
And whisper just how beautiful you are.
But dream does not give warmth, nor end the fear
That longing cannot carry heart so far.
How might I win a chance to brush my lips
Behind your ear and upon neck, and touch
The corner of your smile, or kiss the tips
Of fingers? Might my heart yet hope for such?
Yet, all remains a dream: The chilling rain
Hides moon, and stars, and hope. I dare not seek
For heart's desire without thought how to gain
Your own desires: Might you of your dreams speak?
How can I not dream, when I see your smile?
Do you not know you can with look beguile?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 06:48 AM

Sonnet 11 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 28/12/05                            MXXXIX

Vision does not yet see what dreams display,
To give reason smile touches soul. She lends
An air of passion to room: Dare I say
She makes night worthwhile with the joy smile sends?
I long to learn about her dreams, to know
What might smile earn, and what has chance to please.
Yet, should I longing for her think to show,
When I might any hope for passion seize?
I offer verse, and heart: Is there a chance
She might in kind reply? Will she inspire
More than just dream? What is the circumstance
That raises muse from beauty and desire?
She leaves room empty in absence, and gives
With her sweet smile a hope that in dream lives.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 01:03 PM

Sonnet 12 of 12 to Persephone


Sonnet 26/01/06                              MXLV

Have I reason to think you might be more
Than just beautiful woman? Will you share
Some of dreams' light, and with smile hopes restore?
Can I dream that there might be chance you'd care?
What can I do to earn a smile or give
Soft laughter cause? It seems that eyes can say
As much as all my words: Must longing live
Upon just glance? Has hope led heart astray?
Might I ask evening to explore your mind?
Would starlight guide our conversation? All
I ask is that we have a chance to find
If you are one that might my verses call.
Can I try to within my arms enfold
A vision that dreams upon page have told?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 01:14 PM

You may be having trouble with your optic nerve. (?) If so, this whole thread could be illusory, right? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 01:25 PM

"If so, this whole thread could be illusory, right?"

EVERYTHING ****COULD**** be imaginary- in which case you had better hope that

1. I have a good imagination.
2. I continue to imagine MUDCAT, so that you do not cease to exist.

On the other hand, we might really all exist.

On the gripping hand, how can any of us ever tell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 08:03 AM

Sonnet 22/11/05                               MXXXIII

The distant stars only cold comfort bring,
That beauty beyond reach might share. Dreams try
To find desired smile, or voice to sing,
Yet this is season when all of dreams die.
Heart cannot hold to hope, but must it ache
For lost dreams of what could not be? Dreams fail
To fill heart's need, yet should they, for the sake
Of but one's desire? Must hope tears entail?
Dare soul look for the reason darkness falls
On dream, desires, and hope? Is it just chance,
Or fate, that longing for love always calls
Forth darkness, when heart seeks only romance?
Where should heart search, for chance of it's desire?
Is there no hope in those who verse inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: skipy
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 11:55 AM

At this moment in time I'm last on both!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 12:04 PM

Not for long!


Sonnet 22/04/01                                DXLI

Perhaps I ask that you give, not my verse.
But whispers, that my heart can turn, enfold
Within my mind, and place on page: A terse
Few words might feed my dreams and heart. As cold
As lonely nights, the silence in my dreams
Should have no place in Spring, but I can hear
No soft words to show vision. Though time seems
To pass, I live in Past, with no one near.
I do not ask that you give heart, but share
Some part of dreams, and desires: I might find
The visions that I seek. You need not care,
Though I might hope to know more of your mind.
I search for muse: Are you the one I seek?
Can I hope that your words will visions speak?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 08:03 AM

Sonnet 22/11/05                                 MXXXIV

In time heart will not feel the pain, nor seek
To find desires: I will not care if she
Still smiles, or cries. Then, written words might speak,
But voice and heart will ever silent be.
In time, dreams will not try to light refine
To vision of her eyes. All will be dark,
And cold: Death will unravel hope's design,
And of passion will remain not a spark.
In time, desire will fade, and even kiss
Will have no meaning: All that dream now sees
I will not from the grave think I might miss.
There will be then no chance to my muse please.
In time, I will not love: Yet, must I reach
That time before heart will a resting teach?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 10:42 AM

Sonnet 24/01/06                         MXLIV

Are you then muse, that I might find a rhyme
Reflected in your eyes? Know you the spell
To hold to dreams, and heart? Can you stop time
With power of just smile? Might you hopes tell?
I look at you, and wonder how to know
If you are what I seek: To dream, the light
Upon desire; To heart, reason to show
Longings to hold and be held throughout night.
Yet, do dreams matter? My thoughts do not bind
More than my own desires: You remain free.
I search, but do not know if what I find
Is just a dream, or vision of "to be".
I have no better means than to be bold,
And ask if you would want to my heart hold.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 02:43 PM

I was just wondering !

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 02:44 PM

Can I be 2,700 ??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 02:59 PM

Sure!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 07:47 AM

Sonnet 68 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 28/04/06                           MLVII

I think about past muse, and heart desires
To know if she is happy. Can I ask,
When she does not reply? I cannot mask
Concern about her, yet my heart requires
Only that she is well: If she still tires
Of all my words, should I beg for reply
She does not wish to send? Must I deny
That I still care for one who dream inspires?
I remain fool, for all my years, to know
Her thought, and still have dreams. Yet, she is still
So beautiful: Can I to that be blind?
I long for words that would my longings show,
Yet not demand even her smile. Dreams fill
The emptiness: Might I cause to hope find?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 09:58 AM

Sonnet 67 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 14/12/05                                                       MXXXVII

How could I not still care for one who gave
A chance for hope and dream? Sound of your name
Offers a thought of joy: How can I save
My dreams, and not let you muse's due claim?
It matters to me that you are not well:
What might I do to aggravations ease?
Perhaps I am not quite under your spell,
But I would ever want to past muse please.
You are worthy of more than I might share,
Yet understand I offer you concern.
Perhaps in dream I might my desires dare,
But know I want to of happiness learn.
I know I have no chance to change your mind,
But might I means to give you one's smile find?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 11:46 AM

by Elvis Presley

I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry


Hear that lonesome winter bird
He sounds too blue to fly
The midnight train is whining low
I'm so lonesome I could cry

Did you ever see a robin weep
When leaves began to die
That means he's lost the will to live
I'm so lonesome I could cry

The silence of a falling star
Lights up a purple sky
And as I wonder where you are
I'm so lonesome I could cry
I'm so lonesome I could cry

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:00 PM

ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY)
Gilbert Sullivan
(Raymond Sullivan)

Oh, in a little while from now
If I'm not feeling any less sour
I promise myself to treat myself
And visit a nearby tower
And climbing to the top
Will throw myself off
In an effort to make it clear to whoever
What it's like when you're shattered
Left standing in the lurch at a church
Where people saying
My God that's tough
She stood him up
No point in us remaining
We may as well go home
As I did on my own
Alone again naturally

To think that only yesterday
I was cheerful bright and gay
Looking forward to, well who wouldn't do
The role I was about to play
But as if to knock me down
Reality came around
And without so much as mere touch
Cut me into little pieces
Leaving me to doubt
Talk about God in His mercy
Who, if He really does exist
Why did He desert me
In my hour of need
I truly am indeed
Alone again, naturally

It seems to me
That there are more hearts
Broken in the world that can be mended
Left unattended
What do we do?
What do we do?

Now looking back over the years
And what ever else that appears
I remember I cried, when my father died
Never wishing to hide the tears
And at sixty five years old
My mother God rest her soul
Couldn't understand why the only man
She had ever loved had been taken
Leaving her to start
With a heart so badly broken
Despite encouragement from me
No words were ever spoken
And when she passed away
I cried and cried all day
Alone again naturally

Alone again naturally

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:03 PM

I Think We're Alone Now
   

"Children, behave!"
That's what they say when we're together.
"And watch how you play!"
They don't understand.
And so we're running just as fast as we can,
Holding on to one another's hands.
Trying to get away into the night,
And then you put your arms around me and we tumble to the ground,
And then you say, "I think we're alone now.
There doesn't seem to be anyone around.
I think we're alone now.
The beating of our hearts is the only sound."
Look at the way
We gotta hide what we're doing.
Cause what would they say
If they ever knew?
And so we're running just as fast as we can,
Holding on to one another's hands.
Trying to get away into the night,
And then you put your arms around me and we tumble to the ground,
And then you say, "I think we're alone now.
There doesn't seem to be anyone around.
I think we're alone now.
The beating of our hearts is the only sound."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:13 PM

Nice sound.


   Nice poem.



   That's it, I'd say, nothing more to say - it's ok, I'll stack the chairs, do the lights and lock up. you pop along.

   'Night.






      Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:16 PM

goodnight sweetheart


Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
I hate to leave you, but I really must say
Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight

Well it's three o'clock in the mornin'
Baby, I just can't do right
Well, I hate to leave you, baby
I don't mean maybe
Because I love you so

Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
I hate to leave you, but I really must say
Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight

Mother, and, oh, your father
Won't like it if we stay out too late
Well, I hate to leave you, baby
Don't mean maybe
You know I hate to go

Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
I hate to leave you, but I really must say
Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight

Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
Goodnight, sweetheart
Well, it's time to go
I hate to leave you, but I really must say
Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:27 PM

So Long, Farewell

THE CHILDREN:
There's a sad sort of clanking
From the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping up to say cukoo!
Cukoo! Cukoo!
Regretfully they tell us

But firmly they compel us
To say goodbye to you.

So long
Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Goodnight
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

So long
Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Adeiu
Adeiu Adeiu
To yieu and yieu and yieu

So long
Farewell
Au 'voire
Aufwiedersehn
I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne

So long
Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Goodbye
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye

Goodbye!

I'm glad to go I cannot tell a lie
I flit I float
I fleetly flee I fly

The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Goodbye--

Goodbye...
Goodbye...
Goodbye...
Goodbye...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:29 PM

Bye Bye Love
   

(felice and boudleaux bryant)

Chorus
Bye bye love
Bye bye happiness
Hello loneliness
I think I'm gonna cry
Bye bye love
Bye bye sweet caress
Hello emptiness
I feel like I could die
Bye bye my love, goodbye

There goes my baby
With someone new
She sure looks happy
I sure am blue
She was my baby
Till he stepped in
Goodbye to romance
That might have been

Chorus

I'm through with romance
I'm through with love
I'm through with counting
The stars above
And here's the reason
That I'm so free
My loving baby
Is through with me

Chorus

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 07:07 AM

Good Morning Sunshine
   

Oooooh
Yeah
Oooooh
Oooh, oooh

When the sun is up
On a clear blue sky
You will act like a lover
When the sky is gray
And the rain comes down
You will run for cover
Feel the heat, come out of cold
And your arm is touching me

Good morning sunshine
You're my only light
Lying with me, by my side
You keep me warm all day
Just stay with me

Good morning sunshine
Be with me all day
Just don't let the rain pass you by
When it's cloudy or windy and the snowflakes arrive
You somehow just make me, make me feel I'm alive

When you heat my fields
Then you light the stars
Fading away in the horizon
There's a million streets
Leading off the night
Waiting for sun to be risen
Feel the heat, come out of cold
And your arm is touching me

Good morning sunshine
You're my only light
Lying with me, by my side
You keep me warm all day
Just stay with me

Good morning sunshine
Be with me all day
Just don't let the rain pass you by
When it's cloudy or windy and the snowflakes arrive
You somehow just make me, make me feel I'm alive

Hold it right there, let me take a minute of your time
To explain how I feel through these rhymes
I do the best I can, and believe me, if I could
I'd build you a paradise with these two hands
The top of your skin makes my body go numb
I'm thinking to myself, if my dream come true
Or is it 'cause you never give me a chance to tell you how I feel
The moments we had were too precious to kill

Oooh, when it's cloudy or windy
Please turn your face at me

Good morning sunshine
You're my only light
Lying with me, by my side
You keep me warm all day
Just stay with me

Good morning sunshine
Be with me all day
Just don't let the rain pass you by
When it's cloudy or windy and the snowflakes arrive
You somehow just make me, make me feel I'm alive

Oooooh
Make me feel I'm alive

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 07:10 AM

Sonnet 66 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 17/12/04                            CMLXIII

I worry about past muse, but I know
I have no right to care if she is well:
She has made clear I should not try to tell
How her sadness makes my heart want to show
That I still feel concern. Hope does not grow,
That arms might ever hold, but still some spell
Keeps me thinking of her: Not book, nor bell,
Nor candle breaks me free. Does heart debt owe?
She is a part of past, but I must build
A future: Should I throw away the joy
That she once gave? I value what she shared.
I cannot alter past, that she has willed
To be apart. I dare not dreams employ,
But hope past words might show how much I cared.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:06 AM

Morning Has Broken
   

Morning has broken, like the first morning
Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning
Praise for them springing fresh from the world

Sweet the rain's new fall, sunlit from heaven
Like the first dewfall, on the first grass
Praise for the sweetness of the wet garden
Sprung in completeness where his feet pass

Mine is the sunlight, mine is the morning
Born of the one light, eden saw play
Praise with elation, praise every morning
God's recreation of the new day

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:11 AM

Notes on the previous.

Sung by Cat Stevens 1972.

Stevens got the lyrics from a hymn book he found at a bookstore while looking for song ideas. It was a children's hymn by Eleanor Farjeon, who also wrote a lot of children's poetry.

Children in England would have heard Farjeon's hymn in primary school. Scottish children sang the old Gaelic hymn, "Child in a manger, Infant of Mary" to this tune. This hymn predated "Morning" and was written in Gaelic by Mary MacDonald before being translated into English. For Scottish children it was a Christmas hymn.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:36 AM

Eleanor Farjeon
Encyclopædia Britannica Article      

born Feb. 13, 1881, London
died June 5, 1965, Hampstead, London



English writer for children whose magical but unsentimental tales, which often mock the behaviour of adults, earned her a revered place in many British nurseries.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9033749/Eleanor-Farjeon

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 08:43 AM

correction- from Wikipaedia:

"Morning Has Broken" was an obscure Christian hymn that became widely known when Cat Stevens included it on his 1971 best-selling album Teaser and the Firecat. It became a signature song for Stevens.

The lyrics[1] were written by Eleanor Farjeon in 1931 and is found in the hymnals of many denominations. The tune to which it is normally sung is called "Bunessan", based upon a Scottish Gaelic traditional melody. Before Farjeon's words, it was used as a Christmas carol which began "Child in the manger, Infant of Mary", translated from the Gaelic lyrics written by Mary MacDonald. [2] The English-language Roman Catholic hymnal also uses the tune for the hymn "This Day God Gives Me".

Writing credit for "Morning Has Broken" has often been erroneously attributed to Stevens because of his version of the song which brought it out of obscurity. The familiar piano arrangement on Stevens' album was performed by Rick Wakeman, a classically trained keyboardist with the English progressive rock band Yes. Wakeman was not credited with nor paid for his contribution at the time of the recording; years later Cat Stevens, now known as Yusuf Islam, acknowledged Wakeman's contribution and paid him. In 2000, Wakeman released an instrumental version of "Morning Has Broken" on an album of the same title.

Although Stevens is credited with the musical arrangement, the familiar piano intro and general structure of the piece was heard already on Floyd Cramer's 1961 album Last Date.

The song has been covered by numerous artists, including Judy Collins, Floyd Cramer (twice), Dana, Neil Diamond, Art Garfunkel, Nana Mouskouri, Aaron Neville, Kenny Rogers and the First Edition, and Roger Whittaker.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 12:27 PM

one of 6 snnets to Barbara


Sonnet 18/05/01                                 DLI

Shall I send her a poem, with passion's power,
To tell of dreams, and hope? What might bring smile
To lips, and twinkle to her eyes? What style
Of verse might I use, to give muse her hour?
How can I capture sunset in my words,
And send it as a gift? Can the night breeze
Be heard in my soft whispers? Shall I seize
The full moon, to light smile? Might I tempt birds
To follow her, and offer song? I hold
No magic, to command the stars: I send
But words, though I may seek to her heart bend.
How can I hope by words to hope enfold?
Half of my heart may be forever dead,
Yet how can I leave emotion unsaid?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 07:22 AM

2nd of 6 sonnets to Barbara


Sonnet 18/05/01                                  DLII

Might I send verse, as sweet as wine, to lead
The way to pleasant dreams? I wish not tears,
But I would hold you while you sonnets read,
Run fingers through hair, and trace curve of ears.
I offer to you only what I might:
The gentle touch of fingers above eyes;
The kneading of soft flesh, in passion. Night
Fills with the dream of you; Heart hears but sighs.
What might I tell, that you would dreams desire?
Can visions in my mind reflect your smile,
Or look in eye? What would you now require
For hope that I might stay with you a while?
Should not true love be more than one can stand,
That it takes two to Love's embrace withstand?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:28 PM

Sonnet 3 of 6 to Barbara

       Sonnet 18/05/01                               DLIII

        A perfect day for planting, with no sun
        To burn life from small leaves; The promise of
        Water to sustain new growth. Here's one
        Of Nature's subtle gifts, to show her love.
        You plant sweet herbs for future use, and weed
        Unwanted growth, but know a use for all
        The garden grows. Four senses gardens feed,
        And birds, who nourish fifth with evening call.
        The breeze brings cool contentment, as the day
        Slides into night. You have the future sown.
        In time, all that you plant will grow, to pay,
        With interest, labor done by harvest grown.
        With laughter in eyes, and smile touching cheek,
        You have in your garden all I might seek

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:49 PM

No single song has lyrics. Words, yes. A lyric, yes.

The rule is one song, one lyric.

people get thrown,IMNVHO, by the fact that a song has words, and one can talk of the lyrics of a musical having been written by ............





      Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 05:07 PM

I was quoting their article.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM

"The lyrics[1] were written by Eleanor Farjeon in 1931 and is found ..."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Jul 07 - 11:21 AM

Sonneet 4 of 6 to Barbara

Sonnet 20/05/01                        DLVI

Might I sit by creek, under the willow,
And watch evening fall? Would you sit beside
Me, with arm around you? Heart is pillow
That I offer, that you might hopes confide.
Shall we collect salad on walk in wood,
Or sweet scented branches to rest upon?
Should I let my touch linger, when we should
Be headed home? My dreams are hanging on.
Can I look in your eyes by candlelight,
And hold you in my arms? Can I place kiss
On base of neck, and behind ears? What might
You allow me: What might you take amiss?
I seek to reach heart through my words: I fall
Into my dreams, yet I wait for your call.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 10:18 AM

Sonnet 5 of 5 to Barbara


Sonnet 24/05/01                        DLIX

Shall I place covers over you, and tuck
You in, for afternoon nap, or enfold
You in my arms? Or shall I try to pluck
You from cocoon, like butterfly in gold?
Shall I think of soft whispers to lull you
To sleep, or wake you with soft kisses? How
Am I to know what you desire, or do
What might more pleasure bring, future and now?
Shall I offer a moment's passion, or
Send you concern and caring from my heart?
Should I some part of your body adore,
Or all of you desire, and make this start?
Shall I send sweet words to ease thought, or try
To tell desire, and let hope's arrows fly?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:13 PM

The forgoing deserves a response. Here you go.

P-P-P-P-P-P-P-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-R-R-R-R-R-P-P-P-P-T-T-T-T-T!!!!!!!!!!

(the sound of a lengthy sustained fart)

Thanks to Spaw for the inspiration.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:20 PM

7 "P"s followed by 7 "F"s 14!

Obviously a request for more sonnets to be posted here!

OK, LH, here you are- since you asked...

Sonnet 6 of 6 to Barbara


Sonnet 06/06/01                        DLXIV

Will you then watch the sunrise in my arms
And hear the morning birds before we rise?
Will you help me enjoy the country charms
That city does not share? Shall I in eyes
Find heart's desire, or should I seek to see
Only reflections? Will the country air
Bring calm, at dawn? What can I do, what plea
Will let me visit, and your heaven share?
I envy you your evenings, and your nights
Away from noise and bustle. But I pray
You might break solitude, and share the sights
Of woods and gardens, mist rising with day.
Should I visit, might I the dawn enjoy,
And see your morning smile, to hope employ?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:23 PM

(snort!) I hate to tell you this, man, but Barbara is laughing up her sleeve at you. She's been having it on with the postman.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:26 PM

You want ANOTHER sonnet?






Well, if you insist......




Sonnet 23/7/01                        DLXVIII

I think about your words, and dream of smile,
Though I have little cause to hope for care.
My age does not allow pursuit, and while
I may desire, I cannot your soul share.
I wonder what you dream, and know I seek
Beyond even concern: My heart has played
Out past desires, and found faint hope. I speak
But cannot say, though I have for words paid.
I know only you seem to understand
The passions of my past. I try to tell
My dreams, but few care to listen. I hand
You verse, and pray you understand, as well.
All of my words try to tell how I feel:
Will your reading of verse make my dreams real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:35 PM

I understand your pain, man. I feel the same about you. This love, I am afraid, must remain unconsummated, forever shining unrequited in the realms of fantasy, but perhaps it's better that way...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 01:58 PM

Perhaps it is..


Want another sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 02:19 PM

Dare I say no?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 02:43 PM

No, you dare not.




Tomorrow...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 03:57 PM

...is another day.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 05:54 PM

Or maybe another today.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 09:05 AM

Speaking of today,


Sonnet 01/8/01                                DLXIX

How might I seek within your angel eyes
The inspiration for some future verse?
Might you send smile, or words to make me wise
To your desire? How can I hope rehearse,
Without lines? I ask not for heart, but thought,
That I might understand you. Will you let
Me look beyond your words, to have dreams taught?
I cannot picture of your smile forget.
I ask you find the time to let me see
If you hold muse behind your eyes, to tell
My dreams their path. I do not ask to be
More than I am, yet remain under spell.
The eyes are windows to the soul: I pray
That I might see into your eyes, someday.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 12:44 PM

"How might I seek within your angel eyes
The inspiration for some future verse?"

You flatterer! Well, I suppose I could send you a photo or two...

Prepare to be inspired.

"Might you send smile, or words to make me wise?"

You? Wise? Look, man, my powers are not unlimited...

"What can I do, what plea
Will let me visit, and your heaven share?"

Hmm. How do I say this in such a way as to let you down easy?

You haven't a snowflake's chance in hell of getting to share my heaven.

Sorry about that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 12:52 PM

LH,

The first time, such comments are... witty.

The second time, they are half-witty.

The third, nit-witty.




Are you sure you want to continue?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:17 PM

That's what this thread is based on, isn't it?...needless repetition.

I'll stop if you do.

Tell you what...we could allow a third party to make the last post, and both refrain from posting any further.   How about that for a compromise?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:22 PM

Gee, I had thought that limiting myself to two sonnets a day, unles requested by someone to post more, was more than reasonable.


I would hate for anyone to think that my statement of 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM was less than truthful.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 06:06 PM

Ha! Then how do you explain a string of 12 consecutive posts by you and you alone between the 24th and 26th of July/07? Do you blame that on your need to respond to...whom? Yourself?

You, sir, are not content to limit yourself to simply posting 2 posts a day...nor are you content to simply post the final post and then let the thread die. Oh, no. You return again and again, day after day, like a demented dope fiend to his habit, in hopes that someone (like me) will respond. Then someone does, and you take issue with the form of their response, but you are the one who instigated it.

I will accept nothing less than a grovelling admission of guilt on your part, a retraction of all the sonnets you have posted since the first 25, and a handwritten letter of apology signed in blood. (Your blood, I might add. I want no decent human beings or innocent animals to suffer any harm on your account...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 06:40 AM

"You, sir, are not content to limit yourself to simply posting 2 posts a day"

I STATED that I would not post more than two SONNETS per day, unless requested otherwise. I have done so.

No apology is therefore needed, nor will one be forthcoming.


NO sonnets will be retracted: In fact, I shall now insure that I post all 1064 of mine here, and then post others ntil I have received your abject pleadings.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 11:16 AM

"You realize that this means war?"

(famous Bugs Bunny quote)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 03:01 PM

Only if YOU violate the agreement, and post more Dylan lyrics...

Then I will escalate to Dr. Hook.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 06:27 PM

Which agreement are you referring to?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 07:42 AM

The one we discussed in PM on 11 Aug, 2005. I have the three from you in archive.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 07:47 AM

Looks like I missed this one- Ballad 40 of 40 to Rebecca.

Ballad (40)

Sweet muse, I value all your dreams.
How can I hope to say
How much your love is worth? It seems
Far more than words can pay.

Yet, I must try: You need to know
The value of your smile.
You are sweet muse, and to heart show
Hope enough to beguile.

The spells you cast, feelings from soul,
Guide me to heart's desires:
A whisper, smile, a dream; The whole
Of my true muse inspires.

Might caring arms in safty hold,
To give you chance for rest?
I remain yours: Longings enfold
A hope I might dreams test?

I would not walk away: I'd try
To pick you up, and make
My muse complete. Might I know why
You fear to concern take?

How might I future form, to build
As you wish it to be?
How can I keep your nighttime filled
With stars, for you to see?

23 March 2005

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM

So I gather you want me to go and plow back through hundreds of PMs and find that agreement from 2005, do you?

Have you even considered that that agreement, like numerous passages in the Bible, may not make sense anymore in the present context?

I think it's time for some new negotiations.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 01:40 PM

By the way, you have no idea of the value of my smile... ;-)

Not to mention, my grin... ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 10:01 AM

US or Canadian? ( re value)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 01:49 PM

They're almost at par now, so what difference would it make?

Hey! It's been 3 days. I hope you're not ill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 01:54 PM

OK, three months is enough.


Sonnet 03/11/07                            MLXV

To absent friends and lost loves let us drink,
Recalling smiles and times that all once shared.
On those no longer near let us now think,
To bring back reasons that for them we cared.
Some are not here, yet still remain, within
The songs and words they left behind. And some
Are in our souls, when hopes or dreams begin:
A part of what each of us have become.
To those apart let us now raise a glass
And take a moment to give thanks for all
That we from others have ourselves received.
The world's a school, and our lives just a class
In playing well with others. Can we call
It more? Are we by our egos deceived?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 10:48 AM

another sonnet?



Sonnet 04/11/07                                  MLXVI

In midnight dream her bright smile haunts me still,
Though daylight shows no trace. Can dream survive
The ghost of heart's desire? Her words yet fill
Corners of mind: Can ghost future revive?
I'll not forget the dreams she gave, nor lose
Vision given: Can I heart's light recall
Without thinking of her? Soul does not choose
To forget: Loss of past would cost me all.
Yet, heart has not hold upon muse: She gives
What she might, and no more. Should I now plead
For what she does not wish? Only dream lives
Future desired: Hope does not fill my need.
Even ghost gives me reason to rejoice:
Heart does not allow any other choice.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 11:00 AM

Oh, go away.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 11:05 AM

Wherever I go, there I am.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 05:11 PM

Sonnet 289 of 289 to my last muse...


Sonnet 21/12/07                        MLXVII

Without muse to guide dreams, I cannot find
The path to heart's desire: Hope is now lost.
Yet, should heart count all inspiration blind,
When memory remains, to show hope's cost?
I care now for past dreams, and words the thought
Of eyes and smile gave heart. Must I regret
Once holding dreams? Should I not have hope sought?
Does love for source of dream Nature upset?
Without word, I know not the fate of one
I held as heart's desire: Dare I request
You tell if you are happy? Would you shun
One who in past tried to give you his best?
Is there now reason that I should not care
About the muse who once her dreams would share?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 06:07 PM

No

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 12:35 PM

Correct!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 03:19 PM

We agree at last.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 04:32 PM

We often agree- as to ends, if not always means.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 04:33 PM

No, we don't.

(Heh! Heh!)(evil chuckling heard as scurrying away...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 04:50 PM

Yes, we do!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 05:05 PM

For example: In

"Subject: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who will it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

- LH "

I agree that the suspense is STILL mounting...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 06:40 PM

Don't!

(your go...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 08 - 06:37 PM

another sonnet...

Sonnet 17/01/08                           MLXVIII

Night sky holds a bright waning moon, but I
Hold only hopeless dream: Muse is too far
In time and miles to hope to hear reply.
How can heart hope when silence fair dreams bar?
Should I try to remember, or forget
What thought of her once gave? Is there a chance
That shadow of dream might return, to let
Lost hopes lead heart to memory of romance?
Night's bitter chill, without my muse to lend
The dream to brighten darkness, or give heat
To passions cooled by empty nights. What end
Can heart hope for, but to lost dreams repeat?
Do hopes, of fears, or tears matter at all,
When I cannot for muse's soft words call?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 08 - 06:39 PM

opps...


...
Do hopes, or fears, or tears matter at all,
When I cannot for muse's soft words call?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jan 08 - 07:39 PM

"How many root beers does it take?"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 04:13 PM

To drown my sorrows? Far more than I have time to drink...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 04:17 PM

You will let me know when you've all finished, won't you?

So I can be last.

Ta.

Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 04:21 PM

We are not done yet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 06:09 PM

"How many root beers does it TAKE?!?" (uttered by Snoopy in his WWI flying ace guise, as he morosely ponders the insanity of an apparently endless war...)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 07:03 PM

Ah yes, the " War to end all Wars"


Obviously a horrible reason to fight a war... Almost as bad as to eliminate WMDs...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 07:17 PM

The only good (and moral) reason there ever has been to fight a war was the legitimate defence of one's own homeland against a direct attack by a foreign entity... and the legitimate resistance against invasion of one's homeland and the occupation of it by foreign armies.

Any other excuse is just that: an excuse.

There is one other kind of war, though...an internal war within a nation. A civil war. That's a particulary nasty situation, and it can get damnably complicated. It is often further complicated by the involvement of foreign powers in various ways...as they may see some advantage in involving themselves. If so, it gets even worse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 07:22 PM

Agreed.

So we have to conclude that the US/allied invasion of Europe and Germany in WWII was NOT a moral war.

Nor was the invasion of Japan by the US ( We attacked several islands that were part of Japan even before the war).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 08:06 PM

Your argument is so specious, so utterly predictable (I could hear it coming it before you even opened your mouth, because it's the standard supposedly innocent dummy naive response), and so utterly full of holes that it's not even worth replying to, BB.

(and I think you ought to know that...you shouldn't even need me to explain it to you) ;-) Seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jan 08 - 08:12 PM

Holy fuck. Morel wars? RIP

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 12:06 PM

"The only good (and moral) reason there ever has been to fight a war was the legitimate defence of one's own homeland against a direct attack by a foreign entity... and the legitimate resistance against invasion of one's homeland and the occupation of it by foreign armies."

I will still state that, by your criteria, the present conflict (Palestinians/Israel) in the middle east is moral on BOTH sides, and the entire actions of boths sides in WW II was immoral. Please let me know how you can consider otherwise, by your statement.

So, at what time did Germany ever invade Canada?

Or Australia?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 12:54 PM

BB, You are being disingenuous and deliberately obtuse in my opinion. (people often tend to do that when they are arguing about something...)

It is simply foolish to look at a situation in isolation....that is, to consider only one facet of a much larger historical situation and use it out of context to the rest...and then use that to attack my original statement.

I stand by my original statement.

"The only good (and moral) reason there ever has been to fight a war was the legitimate defence of one's own homeland against a direct attack by a foreign entity... and the legitimate resistance against invasion of one's homeland and the occupation of it by foreign armies."

You still want me to go into specific explanations? I will, if you insist, but it's really a waste of time, because you already have the wit and intelligence to figure it out all by yourself. I know you do.

Remember this: conflicts are not ALWAYS neatly divided up between one side that is entirely good and right...and another that is entirely bad and wrong. Conflicts can and very often do involve a mixture of right and wrong on both sides, specially when both sides are motivated by a keen desire for their own gain and a hatred of their opponents.

And that is the case in the Arab/Palestinian-Israeli conflict. It's not just a simple division into "good guys" and "bad guys". Very few wars are.

Once a war has started, it takes on a life of its own, and the issues become very complex. Great crimes are often committed by both sides.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 03:56 PM

Then I have to claim that your comment "The only good (and moral) reason there ever has been to fight a war was the legitimate defence of one's own homeland against a direct attack by a foreign entity... and the legitimate resistance against invasion of one's homeland and the occupation of it by foreign armies."

is meaningless- ALL wars are thought to be for the legitimate defence of one's homeland.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 04:18 PM

It is quite true that virtually all wars are thought to be for the legitimate defence of one's homeland by most or almost all of the ordinary people who serve as combatants in those wars!

And it's quite sad that that is so.

It occurs mainly because the few people at the top who planned their wars of aggression and conquest always have extensive propaganda means at hand to mislead the ordinary people who comprise their population.

To realize this is to become wise enough to question such leadership stringently, and to refuse to be taken in by their false propaganda. Unfortunately, many people never do become that wise, and young people (specially young men) are the easiest to mislead in that regard. That is how despots and liars have raised willing armies to do their dirty work in this world for the past few thousand years.

It in no way invalidates my original point:

"The only good (and moral) reason there ever has been to fight a war was the legitimate defence of one's own homeland against a direct attack by a foreign entity... and the legitimate resistance against invasion of one's homeland and the occupation of it by foreign armies."

And I stand by it. It is anything but meaningless. It is the truth. And it always will be.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: autolycus
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:57 PM

Wonderful . The truth will out.

Ivor

       F I N I S

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 03:03 PM

Sonnet 291 of 291 to my muse...


Sonnet 28/02/08                                  MLXIX

I wonder how you are, but cannot know
When you so silent stay: Am I to dream
If you are happy? Might muse some sign show
Of heart's desires found, to past hopes redeem?
Have you the time to tell if you now smile,
And what might hold attention of your eyes?
Will you share dreams, or offer just a while
When I might pretend you still think me wise?
I ask that you remember I still care
For all dream offered, and my muse inspired.
I cannot but regret I do not share
The thoughts and visions I so once desired.
All past has given are words, dreams, and hope:
Without muse, how can any poet cope?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 05:16 PM

Last? Unlikely. Latest? For now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 07:23 PM

for then, anyway...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 08:55 PM

Ooooh... Why I oughta...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 11:49 PM

Anyone got a good rhyme for "oink"?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:23 AM

boink

toink

voink

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:41 AM

speloink?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 10:05 AM

shrink
shrank
shroink

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 01:21 PM

ok. I guess you all want another sonnet or two, today?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 03:31 PM

Two, please (not to be greedy but you did offer).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:03 PM

OK. I'll try not to repeat ones I posted earlier...


One and two ( of three) to another person ( not a muse)


Sonnet 13/4/01                        DXXXVIII

Though I do not yet know you, I can feel
Our thoughts within one vision. In your lines
My dreams hear echos: Might I ask for signs,
Emotion, and heart's desire, remain real?
Let me be clear: I would let my verse seal
Intent. I seek for muse, that I might find
Some vision, and some hope for dreams; To bind
Soul to soul, that heat of heart might anneal.
All I can offer are lines, soul, and heart:
My dreams remain beyond control. I seek
A source, to feed dream and desire: My art
Remains unvoiced, without. Yet, will you speak,
Inspire me, or silence dreams? Should dreams start,
Even before I see your eyes? Heart is weak.



Sonnet 14/04/01                                DXXXIX

I've image of your smile, but now depend
Upon your words to tell me of your mind:
I cannot judge how much of Truth you send,
But accept all you give, to verses find.
I search for muse, but hope to find my dreams
Reflected in those eyes. How shall I seek
What I desire, without your words? Heart seems
To sense a kindred soul, but heart is weak.
I wait to hear your voice, and look in eyes:
You are a source of verse, but will you share
Enough about you to inspire? How wise
Am I, to even hope, or dream, you'll care?
I wait upon reply: My dreams are caught,
And heart must hope that you are what I've sought.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:09 PM

Should I ask if you want me to repost the Sonnet Redouble?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:13 PM

Should I give you the answer to that?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 06:19 PM

probably not the one I want- here I find someone foolish enough to ask for sonnets... You don't think I'm going to ignore someone who has such obvious good taste?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 07:31 PM

No, I wouldn't think you would ignore an opportunity like that. ;-) God knows, you have proven unable to ignore this thread...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 07:34 PM

where else can I send people to read the sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 07:43 PM

OK, the Sonnet Redouble was osted here, back on 14 May 04 - 12:02 PM
. But it might be too much to reload that much- should I repost? ( everyone but Little Hawk gets a vote- 1. I know what his will be and 2. I'm pretending I'm a Democrat and selecting only the votes I want to see.)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 09:06 PM

I'm gonna pretend I'm a Republican and accuse you of being unpatriotic, waffling, and showing weakness in the face of external threats to our way of life. Appeasement and compromise in the face of evil, that's all you people know. You don't have the guts to support our sons and daughters who are in the line of danger defending our freedom. Why, if they'd had you instead of Churchill in charge of the UK in 1940, "we'd all be speaking German!" ;-)

(All of the above is totally tongue in cheek, you understand!)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:29 AM

Please, repost the Sonnet Redouble. I am atwitter with anticipation.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:09 PM

ok, after claim this number...


2800

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:13 PM

That's an impressive number.

And don't you dare try to take away my right to bear arms either, you closet commie! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:22 PM

Isn't it a little chilly in Orillia to be wearing tank tops?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:45 PM

I know what Bearded Bruce and his ilk are up to, eh? They want to take our guns away and force us all to attend gay marriage ceremonies. They want to destroy the free market too and cozy up to Castro. Buncha damn flag burners and latte drinkers!

You should see my tank tops. I'm wearin' the Ted Nugent one today. Ted rules, eh? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 02:52 PM

Attend gay marriage ceremonies? Hell, they want to force us to enter into gay marriages! It's part of the whole homo-sexual agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:15 PM

When I try to post the SR, I get:

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information

An error occurred while evaluating the expression:


(len(trim(FORM.UserName)) gt 0) and ((left(FORM.Subject,3) is not "RE:") and (FindNoCase("http:", FORM.body)) or ((len(FORM.body) - len(replacenocase(FORM.body,"http:","","ALL"))) gt 10) or (FindNoCase("sites", FORM.Subject)) )



Error near line 21, column 38.
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Error resolving parameter FORM.USERNAME


The specified form field cannot be found. This problem is very likely due to the fact that you have misspelled the form field name.



The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFIF), occupying document position (21:1) to (21:234) in the template file C:\!webserver\mudcat\htdocs\ThreadNewMess-Sub.cfm.


Date/Time: 03/07/08 17:14:23
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Remote Address: 199.36.20.5

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:16 PM

Thank God. Homeland Security has finally stepped in and shut you down, BB. No more F-ing sonnets!

Thank you, George Bush and Dick Cheney. All is forgiven.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:17 PM

And you may arm bears, bare arms, or even shoot your mouths off as much as you want.



I have no ilk.

Buffalo, perhaps, but not ilk.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:20 PM

well, I'll try single sonnets...


Sonnet 23/7/01                        DLXVIII

I think about your words, and dream of smile,
Though I have little cause to hope for care.
My age does not allow pursuit, and while
I may desire, I cannot your soul share.
I wonder what you dream, and know I seek
Beyond even concern: My heart has played
Out past desires, and found faint hope. I speak
But cannot say, though I have for words paid.
I know only you seem to understand
The passions of my past. I try to tell
My dreams, but few care to listen. I hand
You verse, and pray you understand, as well.
All of my words try to tell how I feel:
Will your reading of verse make my dreams real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:34 PM

My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
And hold to source of dream? You are the cause
Of my desires, a vision that gives start
To words of my emotion. Shall I pause
From caring, when I hear only the wind?
Can dream replace the touch of lips, or line
Hold you as arms desire? Can heart rescind
All feelings, or chance of your love decline?
You are the center of my dreams, the core
That defines structure of desire: You lend
The form, to fill my fantasy, and more,
You offer focus, to emotions bend.
How can I find this hope, that dreams require,
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:35 PM

To tell of my concerns, and my desire,
Seems beyond power that mere words contain.
You are one who more than just dreams inspire:
Can my heart's hope more than soft smile obtain?
All vision fades, with distance: Can I see
Beyond my own desires? You are the light
To show image of what dreams hope to be;
The source of brightness that to hope is sight.
Will muse be all I seek, when I reach out
To touch your fire? Can lips not seek to kiss
Your palm, forehead, and neck, and try to scout
Where I might offer pleasure, and earn bliss?
Desire feeds dreams, and passion forms my art:
Can longing be enough to future start?

Can longing be enough to future start
When I have sought for muse too many years?
Having found you, how could I think to part
From vision that guards me from past's cold tears?
Can I hold back from love, when your smiles send
Desire to warm my heart? Shall I not care
If I might please you, or let words pretend
I do not suffer when you sadness share?
Can I be more than poet, to hold muse
Within both arms and thought? Shall verse remain
My goal, or should I deeper passions choose,
When night allows desire to hopes explain?
Though you give light to dream, and verse inspire,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?

Can dream be all to which I might aspire
When vision fills each night, and day? I seek
For happiness: What god would heart require
As tithe to future that only seems bleak?
Can passion be contained, controlled, or bound
By reason and by sense? Can desire burn
Without some warmth, and will my hopes be found
To hold only to dreams mere friendships earn?
Can longing be ignored, and set aside?
Can I not breath, nor feel, nor let mind think?
Would I be able to from my heart hide
All that I hope, and dream, to darkness sink?
Though more than my desire and source of rhyme,
I have no claim upon your heart, or time.

I have no claim upon your heart, or time
To build more fantasy upon your smile.
You embody desire, but can hope mime
Reality, that dream might future style?
You remain goal, beyond heart's hope to reach
Yet too dear to be set aside, or locked
Inside, unsaid. Will dream be brought to teach
Pleasure, or will all hopes by fact be mocked?
All that I hope, I owe to thought of you.
Your smile illuminates my dreams, your eyes
Reach to my soul, and offer heart what few
Have sent: A dream, of love that fate defies.
I offer heart and mind, to pay dream's fee:
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.

Though I may seek for soul, you remain free
To ask for what you will: I'll not deny
My muse all that I have, nor would I be
Unwilling to all of your desires try.
You guide my dreams, and steer my hopes in ways
That excite my desires: How can I mask
How much I want to hold you? Can dream raise
My hopes enough that I might desires ask?
I do not think you need my love, but know
I require what concern hope might yet send.
My dreams are fragile, formed in heart, and show
More of desires than Truth reasons defend.
Should I think that to seek for love is crime?
Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime?

Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime
With passion? Would my hopes give heart a chance,
Without some sign to show you care, to climb
From depths of dark despair to sweet romance?
I want far more than glance, but know I hold
No key, to chain you to my dreams. Yet, dream
Would wrap arms around you, to warmth enfold:
I cannot deny that in heart I scheme.
I desire chance to show how much I care,
Beyond desire: All dreams center on you.
Shall I offer my heart, or can I dare
To ask if I might your smile try to view?
I know I have no hope to from hope flee:
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?

Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea
To give reason for hopes, or make dreams real?
Will thought become true deed, or heart agree
It will in future only pleasures feel?
My hopes, and heart, cannot ignore your eyes,
Nor keep desires to what is within reach.
Yet, should I refuse dream that otherwise
Gives joy? Should I but bitter thoughts beseech?
All reason flees: I chase moonbeams, and seek
For vision seen only within my mind.
What can I say, that would fantasy speak,
That could alter the world, to desire find?
How can I hope deny, or passions fight:
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light.

You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Bringing a hope of heaven, and a touch
Of subtle passion to echoes of night.
How can my dreams of you remain as such?
I search your words, for image, and for hint
Of what might make you smile, or how to bend
Your dreams to thought of me. Eyes need no tint
To see what soul desires, to my heart mend.
I see what heart desires, but am I blind,
Looking at light too bright? I do not know
How I might filter out my dreams, or find
If hope is lust, or deeper passion's glow.
You remain muse, that heart can't set aside;
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.

Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide
To realms of dream, and of desire, you bring
Light to my darkness. Can my heart abide
Without some thought of your soft smile seeking?
Dear one, is future preordained, that all
My hopes are less than dust? I dare not hold
To such a faith: I would to heaven call
And ask for dispensation, to dreams mold.
Can vision torn from dream be true, or show
More than my fondest wish? Can my heart care
Less for itself than that you passions know?
How can I dream, when you all my dreams snare?
Without a chance to kiss, or hold you tight,
How can I know if my concern is right?

How can I know if my concern is right
When all I hold are dreams? Can heart discern
What you would have me do? Can words invite
Hope beyond dream, or give heart chance to learn?
How can I hope to offer more than wit,
When I share only words? Can care remain
Within, hidden from life, without a bit
Of dream escaping to my hopes explain?
How can I care so much for one, unseen,
Beyond all hope of passion? Can I hold
My heart from love, when all that hope can glean
From dream is that time does not make one old?
What hope have I to future dream decide,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?

To tell if words should hope display, or hide
All feelings, heart must find a path to lead
Out of my dreams. Yet, would I turn aside
For fear heart might lose something that I need?
How can I deny dreams, or hope refuse,
When without thought of you my nights are cold?
My dreams bring joy, since I found you, my muse;
How can I let your effect be untold?
I wear heart on my sleeve: You are the maid
I hold as Lady Muse, but should I try
To be more than just friend? Hopes do not fade
With time, but can my heart to sense reply?
Heart seeks to show your colours, and dreams rule:
I do not know if I am knight, or fool.

I do not know if I am knight, or fool
To care for you, when I can't hope to reach
Beyond desire. I cannot think you cruel,
Though I might wish far more than rhyme to teach:
You are one I desire, but more, I care
That you are happy, and future enjoy.
What should I do? Can words hope to repair
Your dreams? How can I past demons destroy?
You know I seek to have you laugh, and smile,
Though I might want to hold you, and to kiss
Forehead, and palm, and lips. Might I dream, while
I remain distant? Is concern remiss?
I do not know if I should dream o'errule;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Whether to offer heart, or passions cool
Remains beyond decision. Dream is all
I have: I cannot desire for you school
Out of my dreams, nor out of longing fall.
Yet, dare I ask to fulfill dreams, or tell
How I might offer passion for your night?
I care too much to risk breaking this spell
You hold me in, that fills my dreams with light.
Reason requires that heart be held in check,
But desires control dreams, and hope. I long
To whisper in your ear, and nibble neck,
But do not know if action would be wrong.
I offer heart, and soul, and all of art:
My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart?

My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?
Can longing be enough to future start,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?
I have no claim upon your heart, or time;
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.
Can I ask for a smile to my dreams prime?
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.
How can I know if my concern is right,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?
I do not know if I am knight or fool;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:35 PM

ok, the last two posts consist of the Sonnet Redouble.

Want some more? (LH need not reply)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:38 PM

and if my sonnets were F---ing, there would be even MORE of them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:38 PM

Perhaps we should hold off for a day or three until we are able to give proper attention to those we already have. We will get back to us.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 05:39 PM

Very well. We shall do so.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 08:02 PM

I have just written a very angry letter to George Bush and Homeland Security.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 08:14 PM

consonant or vowel?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 08:46 PM

Ha! Clever.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:05 PM

I try.




















sometimes, I suceed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 02:50 PM

refresh




Why?


Because I want to!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 03:49 PM

And the cat came back...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 03:55 PM

he couldn't stay away...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 03:56 PM

"like a dog, he returns to his own vomit"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 04:52 PM

well...


speaking of returning........



"Subject: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who will it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

- LH "

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 05:36 PM

I was thinking about this thread just the other day. I really was.

BB, what I was wondering is, is this "Lady Muse" you refer to an actual person? Maybe it is a composite of more than one person. Perhaps you would prefer not to say, I can respect that, but I was wondering.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 06:55 PM

My "Muse" is the ideal of creativity, not an individual. However, my "muse" ( muses, to be precise) have been real women who have inspired me to verse.

My sonnets are (mostly ) written to specific individuals who have inspired those verses.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM

sorry, the cookie is on the other machine.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 07:10 PM

No need to apologize.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 08:41 PM

no need perhaps, but polite acknowledgement of mistakes or errors is one of the lubricants of reasonable discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 09:22 PM

Handsomely said, old chap. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 10:08 PM

Do you know how many people there are in the world, on the entire planet, with net assets worth one million dollars, exclusive of principal residence? I'll bet you don't. It's 10.1 million.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 02:58 PM

Well, a million is just not what it used to be...

I still have my 10 trillion Mark note to remind me that the date of dollars is as important as the number of them.


If only I could get gold at $32 an ounce with my 1932 currency...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:25 PM

Yeah. I used to have a whole bunch of American silver dollars. I wish I had them now.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 06:19 PM

I still have both American and Canadian silver dollars...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 12:41 AM

Smart fellow. I have a certain amount of Canadian silver coins saved up, but I miss those old American silver dollars. They are beautiful looking coins.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 12 Jul 08 - 08:35 PM

I'm sorry I forgot about this. I had intended to say that I agree with both of you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jul 08 - 01:17 PM

always good when people agree.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: PoppaGator
Date: 12 Aug 08 - 05:14 PM

Let's see if this htread stays dead now that I'm having my say...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 08 - 05:23 PM

Oh no....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 06:41 AM

You want even MORE sonnets???


OK, I'll work on it...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 10:04 AM

You'll get no such satisfaction from this thread, PoppaGator.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 10:48 AM

OK, if you insist...


Sonnet 13/01/06                     MXLI

If you are only dream, I dare not wake
And lose this vision. Should I seek to find
If you have muse's power? Could it make
Dreams real, to write of what is in my mind?
Those silken curls cascade around your face:
How can I not want to such riches touch?
Yet, I dare not approach, nor can I trace
Your lips: I know even hopes are too much.
I wait, to see you laugh, and I desire
More than I tell: You are Beauty, beyond
Reach of my dreams, or heart. Still, you inspire
A longing: I could of your smile be fond.
Can I hope that you continue to share
Your laugh, and smile, that I might some dreams dare?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 12:51 PM

Wonderful, bb. Have you any more?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 01:42 PM

Has he any more? Ha! Does a camel have more fleas?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 01:45 PM

Of course!


Thanks for asking.


Sonnet 30/03/06 To a Waitress at Franklin's   MLI

I envy now your jacket, holding tight
Round curves to dream about: Can words relate
How you hold eyes, and thought? Can I words state
To tell I find you beautiful, tonight?
Is there reason I should not enjoy sight
Of your sweet smile? I do not ask for more
Though I might dream: To your soft curves ignore
Is beyond all that could ever be right.
You would arouse desire in any man:
I would be fool to not stare and enjoy
All that I see, or pretend otherwise.
You need not try to longing for you fan.
Just presence is enough: A glance from eyes,
And you have power to dreams heal or destroy.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 01:52 PM

Oh, for heaven's sake!

You could reduce Walkaboutsverse himself to stupefied silence with that stuff. I'm sure of it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 01:55 PM

So, you want even more, LH?

OK, Here you are:


Sonnet 22/04/01                                DXLI

Perhaps I ask that you give, not my verse.
But whispers, that my heart can turn, enfold
Within my mind, and place on page: A terse
Few words might feed my dreams and heart. As cold
As lonely nights, the silence in my dreams
Should have no place in Spring, but I can hear
No soft words to show vision. Though time seems
To pass, I live in Past, with no one near.
I do not ask that you give heart, but share
Some part of dreams, and desires: I might find
The visions that I seek. You need not care,
Though I might hope to know more of your mind.
I search for muse: Are you the one I seek?
Can I hope that your words will visions speak?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 02:07 PM

Hang onto that thought. I am searching for an appropriate response. ;-D It may take some time.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 02:09 PM

Well, I can post a few more sonnets while we wait.


Just reply to let me know you want them...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 02:35 PM

Ah...here we go:

We don't need no steenkin' sonnets!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 02:43 PM

(that was me- I'll post when I get back to my computer. How about another 6 for today?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 13 Aug 08 - 02:54 PM

LH, are you comparing sonnets to something else, something each of us have and they all stink?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 08:07 AM

LH objects to my sonnets- I think he is just jealous that some of us can still rhyme.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:38 PM

So it would seem. I do think comparing your sonnets to Walkaboutsverse verse was a bit harsh. Have you ever read any of his 'verse'? It doesn't exactly flow off the tongue.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:45 PM

I write the style that I like, feel comfortable with, and enjoy writing. I would expect others to do the same, without demanding that I comply with their style.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:47 PM

Sonnet 09/05/01                                DXLVIII

I read your words, and my dreams try to feel
The coolness of soft silk, and warmth of skin:
I would reach out, and with sweet kisses seal
My heart, that I might heart's desire win.
As soft, and subtle scented as a rose,
But without thorns, you pull me to your soul.
I touch, with lips and tongue, yet hope heart knows
How much these dreams can of my hopes take toll.
I reach to touch you, but words do not hold
The softness of your lips, nor feel of hair.
How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?
Would you, then, drive me crazy with desire
When distance and some years prevent love's fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:48 PM

I don't demand that you comply with my poetic style. I doubt that you're even capable of it. ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:49 PM

I could rhyme if I wanted to. It's easy, just steal borrow from the work of others.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:52 PM

How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?

That wasn't directed at LH was it? I didn't think so. He is already spoken for anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:54 PM

I not only can spin a great rhyme
I can function in multiple climes
When I'm dining in Cuba
I pretend it's Aruba
And cool off with a lemon and lime

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:57 PM

I cannot feel another's thoughts,
                        unless they're dopplered
                                down
                                        away from blue
                                                 from green
                                                 from yellow,
                                down
                                        to deeper,
                                            weaker lambdas.

                I only feel the longer wavelengths of emotion;
                        deep in the red,
                                where warmth leaks out of radiation,
                                        6220 angstroms,
                                        or so,
                                        and more.

                I see only what rushes away.




                                                        1/3/76

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 12:58 PM

LH,,

You have no idea what I am capable of.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:00 PM

Hey! I like that one from 14 Aug 08 - 12:57 PM

Brilliant! I may have indeed underestimated you, BB.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:00 PM

What shit!


                The thoughts lie on the pages,
                                        as salted slugs in spring,
                waiting for an image,
                        passing by,
                                to notice them.

                Read my mind!
                        They seem to shout:
                                Guess what I am.



                If I could read minds,
                                        would I waste time on you?
                If I knew what you said,
                                        would I read your verse?

                A little honesty, perhaps:
                                        Don't hide behind that smoke.





                                                        18/3/76

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:02 PM

Doe at 2AM

She froze, staring into the light
Thinking the eyes unseen could see
The apprehension inside. Night
Seemed so secure: Darkness would be
Welcome, to hide within. How might
She in this brightness hope to flee
Back to the shadows? Time stands still:
A moment that the tensions fill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:05 PM

Hmm. I like this other stuff better than your sonnets, I must say.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:09 PM

A Prayer for Barbara - Spring

May all your days be filled with wonder,
And may all your nights be filled
   with dreams of heart's desire.
May you dwell amidst flowers and growing plants,
And rest under bright stars.





But I like writing the sonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:12 PM

Fair enough.

I enjoy poking fun at your sonnets for some reason, perhaps because they are so romantic in what seems a rather archaic style, but I'm just kidding around when I do that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:13 PM

Good to know...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:13 PM

LH, is it perhaps just the sonnet form that you don't care for?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:16 PM

"In the old days a poet used to sweat turning out a sonnet, say. Very difficult form. Exactly 14 lines, all of them hung together with rhyme, rhythm, meter, perfectly. It was too much work for the poet, so blank verse and then free verse came in. And then anarchy. The new poet never bothered to learn how to write a sonnet, or to measure his lines in correct meter and to follow a rhythm system. He dashed off his inspired poem in a matter of a half hour and was surprised when after a few decades of this people stopped reading poetry."



Among the Bad Baboons, by Mack Reynolds
Copyright 1968 Galaxy Publishing Corp.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:20 PM

Terza Rima to A.S.

Are you Persephone, that half the year
You rule the underworld? Could that be why
Those of us nearer death find you so dear?

Are you an angel who would wings deny
That we not know how close to heaven's goal
One might approach? Should we not seek to try?

Or, are you Faerie queen, to steal the soul
Of those who taste your kiss? Should I now fear
That dreams give Sidhe the right to demand toll?

                                12 May 2005

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 01:29 PM

Cinquain IV

                Are you
                So cruel, that you
                Should wonder when I left?
                Would you prefer that I had stayed,
                And cried?

                                                26 Sept 76

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 02:23 PM

A Sonnet


A Sonnet is a moment's monument,-
Memorial from the Soul's eternity
To one dead, deathless hour. Look that it be,
Whether for lustral rite or dire portent,
Of its own arduous fullness reverent:
Carve it in ivory or in ebony,
As Day or Night may rule; and let Time see
Its flowering crest impearl'd and orient.
A Sonnet is a coin: its face reveals
The soul, - its converse, to what power 't is due: -
Whether for tribute to the august appeals
Of Life, or dower in Love's high retinue,
It serve; or, 'mid the dark wharf's cavernous breath,
In Charon's palm it pay the toll to Death.


Dante Gabriel Rossetti ( 1828-1882)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 03:00 PM

It is obviously time to remind everyone of my threat from WAY back in the first 100 posts!


ahem:
if this thread reaches the proportions of the "MOABS" thread, I shall personally drive to Mudcat Central (only 2 hours from me) and hold Max at bay with a Dobro tuned in BAGDAD while I switch the lines from his washing machine with those for the server, so you all get water spurting out of your screens when you log on!



Hah! That'll make you think twice about fooling with the logical parameters of the involuntary cortical ramifications in midweek with no tolerance for abstempious indulgences that are currently being ignored in all the modular nuances we were promised when this administration first pulled the wool over our collective...what?...No, I haven't taken any pills this morning...why?



wait...no...I have more to say on MANY things pertinant to this discussion which

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 03:03 PM

You faded, BillD.

Want to come back on and continue your comment?



"I switch the lines from his washing machine with those for the server, so you all get water spurting out of your screens "

I've used water-cooled ( IBM 360) machines before- they don't scare me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 03:04 PM

Besides, we are still an order of magnitude low, down here where the Obama threads grow...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 04:26 PM

Now you're talkin', Bill! More! More!

I must say that that sonnet by Dante is an extremely fine one. I am beginning to more fully appreciate the structure of the sonnet. This thread may be serving a higher purpose than I had guessed at its inception.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 04:30 PM

"This thread may be serving a higher purpose "


For the greater Glory of Mudcat...







It lets me post all of my sonnets- what higher purpose could there be???


8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 04:42 PM

Hard to imagine... ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Aug 08 - 04:54 PM

Well, *I* can't think of one, offhand...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 08 - 11:59 AM

Still have not thought of one...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 08 - 12:32 PM

I have, but I'm not saying...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Aug 08 - 12:58 PM

well, let me post a sonnet here, to encourage you to share...


Sonnet 23/7/01                        DLXVIII

I think about your words, and dream of smile,
Though I have little cause to hope for care.
My age does not allow pursuit, and while
I may desire, I cannot your soul share.
I wonder what you dream, and know I seek
Beyond even concern: My heart has played
Out past desires, and found faint hope. I speak
But cannot say, though I have for words paid.
I know only you seem to understand
The passions of my past. I try to tell
My dreams, but few care to listen. I hand
You verse, and pray you understand, as well.
All of my words try to tell how I feel:
Will your reading of verse make my dreams real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:51 PM

still last...


Anyone want more sonnets??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 11:24 PM

Oh, crap.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 10:12 AM

Not HERE!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 10:45 AM

yes, please, more sonnets. I made the mistake of listening to WAV attempt to sing "O COME ALL YE FAITHFUL" and need something to cleanse my mind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 11:04 AM

As long as I am asked...


an older one:

Sonnet 28/04/01                        DXLIII

How can I write, without vision of you
To give some form to my dreams? I know
Too little for my lines to give a true
Reflection of your soul. I cannot show
My unknown feelings: Would you have me guess
Future desires? My words might hopes convey,
To hold as muse, but I cannot confess
You have more than my interest. Shall I say
What I might feel? I hope to find out more
Of you, to see if you would light my dreams.
Yet, hope cannot reality ignore:
I do not know if wish is what it seems.
How can I know if you are muse, or write,
Save you offer vision that brings me light?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 11:52 AM

Gratuitously self-indulgent, dissembling vicissitudes, foisted on our indolent psyches with little regard for abstemious peregrination!

What recourse have we beyond belligerent concatenations, leading to deluges of lachrymal excess!

Ha! and that's WITH my meds working!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 01:03 PM

Oh, well put, Bill, well put! I've been trying to tell him the same for what seems like years, but he just won't listen.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 01:10 PM

Okay, this is the last post to this thread. If anyone else posts, he or she is going to turn into a large glob of runny green snot. There's no "might" or "probably" about it. It's a guaranteed hard cold fact. It WILL happen.

You've been warned. If you don't want to turn into a large glob of runny green snot, do NOT post anything additional to this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 01:18 PM

Ok! That's scary! I promise not to...oh, my God!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 01:57 PM

Oh, that is just gross! I guess I won't be visting you any time soon, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 04:01 AM

So, I need to post another sonnet???

OK, since you insist.


Sonnet 20/10/04                           CMXLIV

A muse remains forever: Part of heart
That forms the core of soul. Could I forget
What you have meant to me? Thoughts of you start
To weave new dreams, though they must past regret.
That we have parted ways does not require
I do not care about you: You are one
That helped heart heal, and some of dream inspire,
Though I may think that you will my dreams shun.
Thought of you still has power: You stir mind
With just hello. Should I chance of smile fear?
I cannot ask that you be more than kind,
But hope you understand: Are concerns clear?
At least for now, I know that you are well:
Is that enough, or might heart feelings tell?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 04:41 PM

I thought I would bring this up to the top again...

I'll be away for a while, so it will be ... interesting... to see what shows up here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: heric
Date: 22 Jan 09 - 04:46 PM

That was a bold move BB. Kudos.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 07:03 AM

So, nothing here at all...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 04:17 PM

another month, another post...




Sonnet 13/01/06    To Annie                MXLI

If you are only dream, I dare not wake
And lose this vision. Should I seek to find
If you have muse's power? Could it make
Dreams real, to write of what is in my mind?
Those silken curls cascade around your face:
How can I not want to such riches touch?
Yet, I dare not approach, nor can I trace
Your lips: I know even hopes are too much.
I wait, to see you laugh, and I desire
More than I tell: You are Beauty, beyond
Reach of my dreams, or heart. Still, you inspire
A longing: I could of your smile be fond.
Can I hope that you continue to share
Your laugh, and smile, that I might some dreams dare?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 06:58 AM

Since Bobert wants more BS...


HOT ROD LINCOLN, as written by Charlie Ryan & W.S. Stevenson:

Well you've heard the story of the hot-rod race that fatal day,
when the Ford and the Mercury went out to play.
This is the inside story I'm here to say,
I was the kid that was a-drivin' that Model-A.

It's got a Lincoln motor and it's really souped up,
and that Model-A body makes it look like a pup.
It's got twelve cylinders, and uses them all,
with an overdrive that just won't stall.
It's got a four-barrel carb and dual exhaust,
4-11 gears, she can really get lost.
Got safety tubes and I'm not scared,
the brakes are good and the tires are fair.

We left San Pedro late one night,
the moon and the stars were shining bright,
everything went fine up the Grapevine hill,
we was passin' cars like they was standin' still.
Then all of a sudden, like a flick of an eye,
a Cadillac sedan had passed us by.
The remark was made "there's the car for me,"
but by then the taillights were all you could see.

Well the fellers ribbed me for bein' behind,
so I started to make that Lincoln unwind.
I took my foot off the gas and man alive,
I shoved it down into overdrive.
Well I wound it up to a hundred and ten,
twisted the speedometer cable off the end.
I had my foot keyed clear to the floor,
said "that's all there is, there ain't no more."

I went around a corner and I passed a truck,
I whispered a prayer, just for luck.
The fenders was clickin' a guardrail post
the guys beside me were white as a ghost.
I guess they'd thought I'd lost my sense,
the telephone poles looked like a picket fence.
They said "slow down, I see spots,"
the lines on the road just looked like dots.
Smoke was rollin' outta the back,
when I started to gain on that Cadillac.

I knew I could catch him, and hoped I could pass,
But when I did, I'd be short on gas.
We went around a corner with the tires on the side,
you could feel the tension, man what a ride!
I said "hold on, I got a license to fly,"
and the Cadillac pulled over and let me go by.

Then all of a-sudden, the rods started knockin',
when down in the dip, she started a-rockin'.
I looked in my mirror 'n' red lights was blinkin'.
The cops was after my hot rod Lincoln.

Well, they arrested me, and put me in jail.
I called my pop to go my bail.
He said "son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'
if you don't stop drivin' that hot rod Lincoln."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 10:14 AM

BB, did you not notice that your last post was 2899 making this one

2900

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Apr 09 - 10:28 AM

of course I did- and now that someone else has posted, i can continue with ...


MORE SONNETS!



Sonnet 23/7/01                        DLXVIII

I think about your words, and dream of smile,
Though I have little cause to hope for care.
My age does not allow pursuit, and while
I may desire, I cannot your soul share.
I wonder what you dream, and know I seek
Beyond even concern: My heart has played
Out past desires, and found faint hope. I speak
But cannot say, though I have for words paid.
I know only you seem to understand
The passions of my past. I try to tell
My dreams, but few care to listen. I hand
You verse, and pray you understand, as well.
All of my words try to tell how I feel:
Will your reading of verse make my dreams real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 02:02 PM

So, who wants some more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 02:11 PM

Who could possibly refuse that kind offer?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 02:13 PM

OK! I'll get the file out and start posting!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: skipy
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 04:59 PM

Zygomart
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 06:29 PM

Sonnet 09/05/01                                DXLVIII

I read your words, and my dreams try to feel
The coolness of soft silk, and warmth of skin:
I would reach out, and with sweet kisses seal
My heart, that I might heart's desire win.
As soft, and subtle scented as a rose,
But without thorns, you pull me to your soul.
I touch, with lips and tongue, yet hope heart knows
How much these dreams can of my hopes take toll.
I reach to touch you, but words do not hold
The softness of your lips, nor feel of hair.
How can I taste skin, or let fingers fold
With yours, when only written words we share?
Would you, then, drive me crazy with desire
When distance and some years prevent love's fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 06:31 PM

Sonnet 23/05/01                        DLVIII

I cannot alter Time's slow march, to speed
The days, or slow the hours. If I could change
The years, I would not stay so far, nor need
To censure dreams, and desires rearrange.
I cannot send what you deserve, to ease
The effort of your days. Can words lend care,
From one as I? How can my verses please,
Or offer solace? Should I dead dreams share?
I cannot offer heart, though your words reach
Into my dreams: I have no right to ask
That you care for me, nor can I heart touch
To see beyond those dreams, or longing mask.
I see a flame in you, to light my soul,
Yet cannot reach to it, or time control.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 01:53 PM

xox
oox
xxo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 01:38 PM

oxo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:10 PM

Who says?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 01:42 PM

One of 12 ...

Sonnet 01/10/04   At Franklin's                        CMXXXV

A pixie in plaid pants, you offer sight
To ease these tired eyes. Perhaps in dream
I might have chance to thank you for the light
You give imagination. Do you seem
To smile? What might I say, to have you glance
In my direction? Years keep me from thought
Of more than dreams. You leave: I have no chance
To find if dreams might add to more than naught.
Will I see you another night, and stare
As if I might see your desires, or try
To know what you are thinking? Might I share
These words, though age must hopes and dreams deny?
I do not ask that you reply: Just let
A foolish man his ramblings not regret.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 03:55 PM

"Der krieg ist forlorn."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 04:42 PM

More sonnets wanted??

OK.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 04:43 PM

2nd of 12...


Sonnet 29/03/05                         CMXCI

You are too beautiful to just ignore,
Yet too young to ask more than your sweet smile.
What can I say, to show that you restore
The joy to late nights, and my thoughts beguile?
Can words begin to tell the gentle thrill
That flash of your eyes gives the night? Can page
Hold how you make me feel? Your bright looks fill
This crowded room, and make me forget age.
Yet, should I bother to tell of the powers
You hold in glance? Perhaps you know how much
Smile gives, but would you want me to spend hours
Trying to find out what might your dreams touch?
Thought of you dreams allow, but should I let
Sight of a dream all of Reason upset?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:46 AM

3 of 12...

Sonnet 31/03/05                         CMXCIII

Seeing curl upon forehead, I must ask
If you're like girl in rhyme: Are you now good
As looks and smile suggest, or do they mask
Some inner imp? I know not if I should
Try to find out: Do I annoy, with verse?
You do not seem to mind, but let me know
If I should cease, or make greeting more terse.
I seek only to effect on me show.
I do not know how to beauty ignore,
Nor eyes as yours not look to see. I try,
But fail: Only my absence could insure
I would not look at you, and my words ply.
Perhaps it does not matter, but I plead
You do not object to my verses read..

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:55 AM

My Krag is 30-40.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 01:44 PM

sure is lonely here.....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 02:18 PM

You been told today? No?

Flip off!

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 02:39 PM

Feel the love!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 02:17 PM

4th of 12...

Sonnet 27/05/05    MidNight at Franklin's    MVII

The witching hour, and you have cast a spell,
That I watch every move you make. I try
To turn away, but eyes return. Thoughts tell
I am a fool, but cannot hopes deny.
I watch you dance, and dream, but dare not ask
For more than smile. I cannot find the nerve
To offer more than words, though my words mask
Desires: Yet, what can my mere words deserve?
You light dreams with your smile, and fill the night
With flash of eyes: Should I not let dreams form
In which I wake at dawn holding you tight,
Or of chill evening when I'd keep you warm?
How can I dream, and not be thought a fool?
Your beauty all of reason overrules.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Badiggety Dawg
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 06:04 PM

MMMFFF!!! (suppressing my helpless laughter here, hand held over mouth, unsuccessfully trying to hold it back...nope...it's no use...)

Ah-Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 06:58 PM

As a guest, you seem to lack decorum.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:05 PM

But I guess it means you want more sonnets...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Badiggety Dawg
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:07 PM

Such is the fate of one who passes through like a mere phantasm, unknown, unrecognized, and unloved! But anyway, thanks for the great laugh.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:13 PM

You are welcome- I like to keep people happy.

So I will post LOTS more sonnets here.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:16 PM

5 of 12...


Sonnet 10/06/05                                        MX

Now, what is it about you that I find
To steal my thoughts, and dreams? I think your eyes;
I can't ignore your glance, yet you remind
Of no one else. Is dreaming of you wise?
Perhaps, your smile; All others seem to fade
Upon your bright look. Yes, I find pleasure
In just seeing you, but your smile has made
Ordinary evening into treasure.
Yet, you have something, beyond eyes, or smile:
I do not know why you capture my dream,
Just that you do. Should I ask questions, while
I have chance to watch you, and hopes redeem?
Would you allow my dreams, or should I cease?
Should your continued smile my dreams increase?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:17 PM

6 of 12...

Sonnet 27/09/05                                        MXXII

Looking for one who might appear, I wait,
Not knowing if she will be here. Her eyes
Might seasons change, but is this waiting wise,
Without reason that she would hopes relate?
Yet, I cannot help but hope it is fate
She will be here tonight, to with bright glance
This evening grace: I must leave hope to chance
That she shares smile, and some of her dreams state.
Alas! Night fades, without her: All I hold
Are dreams and empty glasses. Can I find
Enough moonlight, to future hopes inspire?
The night is warm, but I find star-shine cold,
Not seen mirrored in eyes. Does desire blind
My dreams, and soul, to all but her eyes' fire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 11:18 PM

If she had been 18 instead of 17 there might have been no sonnents from the pedergast's pen.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 12:28 PM

Stop judging me by your standards- she was in her late 20's.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 12:29 PM

7 of 12


Sonnet 06/10/05                                        MXXV

Shall I ask now for reasons you might smile,
Making the night worth remaining awake?
Would you reply? Can I dream of you, while
Desires hide from speech for fear of mistake?
Shall I longing for touch deny, or state
I would not kiss pursue? I will not lie:
That dreams excite gives reason to stay late,
And sight of you reasons for dream supply.
Shall I pretend I even have a choice,
To flash of eyes ignore? You focus thought
Upon desire: Smile gives cause to rejoice,
And hope, even in vain, is what dreams sought.
Might I imagine that you smile for me?
How can I not want all of dreams to be?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 03:36 PM

8 of 12...


Sonnet 28/10/05                                        MXXVII

Have you been told how beautiful you are,
Today? The sight of you gives my heart cause
To dream, and wonder. Would you my dreams bar,
Or ask imagination to now pause?
Are you aware the impact of your eyes
Upon a weary soul? I dare not tell
The power you command: If I were wise,
I would seek to not be under your spell.
I dare not hold you: I could not let go,
Nor find words to say how you make me feel.
Yet, would it matter if I let you know
That dreams are more to me than what is real?
I look at you, and wish to more than dream:
But know I'd never loss of smile redeem.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 12:32 PM

9 of 12


Sonnet 03/11/05                                        MXXVIII

Might you teach me how to find words to say,
That tell what seeing your smile gives to me?
Sight of your elven eyes takes breath away:
Thought of you gives heart chance for hope to be.
I dream, but dare not hold you: Should I plead
That you be more than beauty seen afar?
What might I offer that would your dreams feed,
Or give reason you'd join me under star?
It does not matter what I wish were real:
Heart cannot alter what has been, nor find
The path to future I desire, nor steal
What is not offered. Should my dreams be blind?
I am a fool, to dream, when you remain
Only desire heart cannot hope to gain.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 01:30 PM

How old were you when you wrote this stuff, Bruce?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 01:46 PM

Five years younger than I am now...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 01:51 PM

But I have been writing sonnets for quite a while...


Sonnet 05/12/73                                        I


But I will not ( now) inflict that one on you...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 03:41 PM

Heh! I'm glad you are capable of some compassion, Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 03:41 PM

Hey! What are friends for?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 03:56 PM

Yeah, eh? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 07:45 PM

10 of 12...


Sonnet 15/12/05                         MXXXVIII

In dream I find the chance to hold you near,
And whisper just how beautiful you are.
But dream does not give warmth, nor end the fear
That longing cannot carry heart so far.
How might I win a chance to brush my lips
Behind your ear and upon neck, and touch
The corner of your smile, or kiss the tips
Of fingers? Might my heart yet hope for such?
Yet, all remains a dream: The chilling rain
Hides moon, and stars, and hope. I dare not seek
For heart's desire without thought how to gain
Your own desires: Might you of your dreams speak?
How can I not dream, when I see your smile?
Do you not know you can with look beguile?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 May 10 - 02:56 PM

11 of 12...


Sonnet 28/12/05                                              MXXXIX

Vision does not yet see what dreams display,
To give reason smile touches soul. She lends
An air of passion to room: Dare I say
She makes night worthwhile with the joy smile sends?
I long to learn about her dreams, to know
What might smile earn, and what has chance to please.
Yet, should I longing for her think to show,
When I might any hope for passion seize?
I offer verse, and heart: Is there a chance
She might in kind reply? Will she inspire
More than just dream? What is the circumstance
That raises muse from beauty and desire?
She leaves room empty in absence, and gives
With her sweet smile a hope that in dream lives.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:07 PM

12 of 12...


Sonnet 26/01/06                                     MXLV

Have I reason to think you might be more
Than just beautiful woman? Will you share
Some of dreams' light, and with smile hopes restore?
Can I dream that there might be chance you'd care?
What can I do to earn a smile or give
Soft laughter cause? It seems that eyes can say
As much as all my words: Must longing live
Upon just glance? Has hope led heart astray?
Might I ask evening to explore your mind?
Would starlight guide our conversation? All
I ask is that we have a chance to find
If you are one that might my verses call.
Can I try to within my arms enfold
A vision that dreams upon page have told?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:18 PM

ok, I'll start another sequence tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 May 10 - 12:45 PM

1 of 68...


Sonnet 10/11/00                        CDLXXVII

Could I look in your eyes, I'd hope to find
A muse to hold my weary heart in thrall.
Such I might dream: Yet, would I with dreams bind
Soul to another, when I Past recall?
Might I know more of you, to understand
All you might ask, and what you might refuse?
Raise not my hopes, that heart might heart demand,
Except that you would hearts and souls yet fuse.
Keep what I offer clear: I do not know
Enough to know where these desires might lead.
Let time and conversation serve to show,
Least I my dreams into your words might read.
Echos of past show paths I dare not go:
Yet I would know if you might fill my need.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 May 10 - 01:40 PM

One all by itself...


       Sonnet 18/05/01                        DLIII


        A perfect day for planting, with no sun
        To burn life from small leaves; The promise of
        Water to sustain new growth. Here's one
        Of Nature's subtle gifts, to show her love.
        You plant sweet herbs for future use, and weed
        Unwanted growth, but know a use for all
        The garden grows. Four senses gardens feed,
        And birds, who nourish fifth with evening call.
        The breeze brings cool contentment, as the day
        Slides into night. You have the future sown.
        In time, all that you plant will grow, to pay,
        With interest, labor done by harvest grown.
        With laughter in eyes, and smile touching cheek,
        You have in your garden all I might seek.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 01:30 PM

2 of 68...


Sonnet 15/11/00                        CDLXXVIII

I have not looked into your eyes, nor seen
Your smile, yet I would call you friend, and care
About how you might feel. I do not mean
To push myself on you, but concern share.
I have not heard your voice, but seek to find
Your thoughts within the words you send. I read,
And try to see how you might be, in mind:
I wonder, that I see in you, my need.
Do I but see reflection, that I see
That which I wish to see? Are you a dream,
To match all my desires? Might you yet be
The muse I seek, and all that you now seem?
I do not know, yet know I must decide
If to see you, or from future hope hide.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 May 10 - 01:40 PM

"I have not looked into your eyes, nor seen
Your smile, yet I would call you friend, and care
About how you might feel."

How very nice of you. You're a real sweetie.

"I do not mean
To push myself on you, but concern share."

Great. Could you start by posting no more sonnets? ;-)

"I have not heard your voice, but seek to find
Your thoughts within the words you send.

If you had heard my voice, you'd realize how truly melodic it is... As for my thoughts...yeah, they're brilliant. You'd be amazed.

"I read,
And try to see how you might be, in mind:
I wonder, that I see in you, my need."

Hmmm. Well, I appreciate that thought, but I have to be frank here...you're starting to worry me.

"Do I but see reflection, that I see
That which I wish to see?"

Does a bear shit in the woods?

"Are you a dream,
To match all my desires?"

Now you're REALLY going way out on a limb! I think NOT. Just discard the notion, okay?

"Might you yet be
The muse I seek, and all that you now seem?"

Not bloody likely!

"I do not know, yet know I must decide
If to see you, or from future hope hide."

My advice is: From future hope hide. Now beat it or I'll call a cop.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 03:11 PM

Glad to see you want me to post more sonnets.

Here's another one:

3 of 68...


Sonnet        16/11/00                        CDLXXIX

Do I ask for too much, too soon, to seek
To look into your eyes? Must I pretend
To not care for your smile? Yet, would I send
My words, if I did not care? I am weak
Against emotions: Would you have me speak
Without my heart, as if you had not power
To drive dreams to despair? Would you spend hour
To seal my fate, or free me from this peak?

I am trapped- All directions lead me down
To an abyss, save that I look to you
For inspiration. Would you raise vision
Above this? Is my hope to be but clown,
To amuse? Can I hope to know your true
Opinion, without risk of derision?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 03:40 PM

And another, just to keep LH from complainng I never send him anything:



Sonnet 22/11/05                            MXXXIII

The distant stars only cold comfort bring,
That beauty beyond reach might share. Dreams try
To find desired smile, or voice to sing,
Yet this is season when all of dreams die.
Heart cannot hold to hope, but must it ache
For lost dreams of what could not be? Dreams fail
To fill heart's need, yet should they, for the sake
Of but one's desire? Must hope tears entail?
Dare soul look for the reason darkness falls
On dream, desires, and hope? Is it just chance,
Or fate, that longing for love always calls
Forth darkness, when heart seeks only romance?
Where should heart search, for chance of it's desire?
Is there no hope in those who verse inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 03:44 PM

And another, so LH will know I am reading his posts most attentively:



Sonnet 22/11/05                                        MXXXIV

In time heart will not feel the pain, nor seek
To find desires: I will not care if she
Still smiles, or cries. Then, written words might speak,
But voice and heart will ever silent be.
In time, dreams will not try to light refine
To vision of her eyes. All will be dark,
And cold: Death will unravel hope's design,
And of passion will remain not a spark.
In time, desire will fade, and even kiss
Will have no meaning: All that dream now sees
I will not from the grave think I might miss.
There will be then no chance to my muse please.
In time, I will not love: Yet, must I reach
That time before heart will a resting teach?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 May 10 - 04:44 PM

There's only one rhetorical question in that last one. Not good enough! I prefer those that are absolutely peppered with rhetorical questions that I can post numerous funny answers to.

See what you can come up with. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 May 10 - 05:00 PM

I'll work on it.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:06 AM

This one was pretty good...

"Do I ask for too much, too soon, to seek
To look into your eyes?"

Yes, I am afraid you do! ;-)

"Must I pretend
To not care for your smile?"

(?) Whatever floats your boat, I guess...

"Yet, would I send
My words, if I did not care?"

You might if you're just caught up in some sort of compulsive repetitive behaviour.

"I am weak
Against emotions: Would you have me speak
Without my heart, as if you had not power
To drive dreams to despair?"

Oh, you're really putting me on the spot now! Don't make me answer that one, okay?

"Would you spend (an) hour
To seal my fate, or free me from this peak?"

What peak? Are you talking about mountain climbing or is that some double entendre about achieving orgasm?

"I am trapped- All directions lead me down
To an abyss, save that I look to you
For inspiration."

Sheesh. How do I put this delicately? You are fucked.


"Would you raise vision
Above this?"

I don't know. What level of vision are we at now?

"Is my hope to be but clown,
To amuse?"

Hey, you're doing a great job so far! ;-D

"Can I hope to know your true
Opinion, without risk of derision?"

Well, geez......look, I have to make one thing quite clear. The risk of derision is frankly.....it's pretty high. Yup. Pretty damn high. I think we are talking about an almost total risk of derision here. Major ass-whupping derision even. Sorry about that!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:20 AM

ok, here is another...

Sonnet 30/01/03                        DCCLXXXIV

Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire. Why do I dream, in dark
And silence? I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark.
I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?
What hope had I to ever two hearts link?
I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest. I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met.
Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:21 AM

Or this?

Sonnet 07/07/07                                  MLXIV

This muse's moon gives evening silver light,
But dream cannot see other than the past.
How can I find a source of verse so bright
As thought of her? Does only darkness last?
Dawn does not offer hope: Each day remains
Without a muse's fire. How can heart find
Echo of beauty, when dream's darkness stains
The memory of times I was not blind?
Eyes open, but see nothing: Sight is gray,
When noon light should show all of life's real shades.
What can I do, to remove tears, but pray
To find true muse before all of hope fades?
Time does not alter that I care, nor change
The hope muse might one day these dreams arrange.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:01 PM

"Hope lost, and vision blind, I seek for end
To my desire."

Have you considered jumping off a cliff?

"Why do I dream, in dark
And silence?"

Most people dream in dark and silence. Get over yourself.

"I don't know reason to send
All to this absence, where soul leaves no mark."

Neither do I.

"I long for past, when words would have smile earned,
Though memories offer dust: How can I think
That I would rest, to have her feelings learned?"

Hmmm. Yeah. I had a thought like that once...slapped myself upside the head good and hard, and it went away.

"What hope had I to ever two hearts link?"

Not much.

"I fear this future, without touch or sight,
Too cold to allow rest."

Actually, rest is easier in a cold room than a hot one...

"I'll not regret
Past hopes, though perhaps know I have no right
To dream illusions real, when we've not met."

Yeah! That makes sense to me. I've never met Winona Ryder either.

"Yet, though I cannot dreams, nor feelings, share,
Soul smiles, knowing that heart will always care."

Yes, indeed. I will always love Winona, even though she doesn't know I exist. These are the comforts that get one through, aren't they?

;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 01:12 PM

LH,

"These are the comforts that get one through, aren't they?"

Verily!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 10 - 01:44 PM

As a promotion to financially support mudcat, I propose we ask Joe if an auction to be the last person to post on this thread be started.

The highest paid bidder will be the last person on this thread for as long as the sun will shine and as long as the wind shall blow forever and ever and ever.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:13 PM

Not in accord with the intent of the OP.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:25 PM

4 of 68...


Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXX

In lilac scented smoke my muse reclines
As I ask questions, to determine how
I might encourage smiles. I seek for signs
To tell how I might capture dreams, for now.
In moonlight I might find within her eyes
More than reflections of my own desires:
To see past stars within some future skies,
And feel within my heart emotions fires.
Yet in soft flame, I might more meanings find
Within her look. I seek to center know,
That I might have some guide, and not be blind
To what I ask, and seek in verse to show.
I shall light candles to my muse, to seem
As stars around her haloed hair, and dream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:26 PM

5 of 68...


Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXXI

I now regret I did not know you, when
That which you tell occurred. I cannot send
Comfort or caring to past. To open
My heart to you, that I might hope to mend
Some of your hurt, I must at least now try.
Yet, can I hope to share what you now feel,
Or just helpless stand, listening to you cry?
I have not knowledge to which fate I seal.

I cannot alter past, to comfort you
Or care while it did matter. Can I hold
You as a friend, and offer shoulder now?
I care, that you remember pain, and know
Such loss. I hope you do not think me bold,
To offer healing where I don't know how.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 02:27 PM

LH,

I know these don't have enough questions for you to mock them easily, but perhaps you can talk about how ugly my dog was, or how my mother dressed me funny.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:00 PM

I'll get to that, Bruce. ;-) Give me time.

Donuel, I think your idea is an absolutely inspired one! Contact Joe and see if he can put it into motion.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:40 PM

What??!! You would allow wealth to win out over grit and determination?


Shame!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 10 - 05:50 PM

Yeah? But think, man! This could raise enough money to put Mudcat in "the big leagues"...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 May 10 - 06:37 PM

Maybe for "Mother", but this thread? Small change, probably.

I have 26 cents Canadian to bid ( not legal tender here, though worth more)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:21 PM

6 of 68


Sonnet 18/11/00                        CDLXXXII

I think about you, muse, but fear desire
Might color vision: Do I ask for more
From you than to future image inspire?
I dare not impact to my dreams ignore.
I cannot say my heart might not be found
To be under your power: I would lie
To say I would resent emotion. Bound
To Past, heart might yet hope to future tie.
Yet I dare not upon your smile impose,
Nor ask, unless you offer: You control
All save my dreams. Yes, I would that verse shows
Heart, but I care too much to ask for soul.
I care, and hope to hold you as a friend:
Yet pray my dreams do not my intent bend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:04 PM

"I think about you, muse, but fear desire
Might color vision"

I think your fear is well justified.

"Do I ask for more
From you than to future image inspire?"

Uhh....what???

"I dare not impact to my dreams ignore."

Yeah. Boring me you are. Look, no one talks like that except Yoda, for God's sake.

"I cannot say my heart might not be found
To be under your power: I would lie
To say I would resent emotion."

Well, we couldn't have that, could we? It's not nice to lie.

"Bound To Past, heart might yet hope to future tie."

Yoda again! Listen to this crap will I not.

"Yet I dare not upon your smile impose,
Nor ask, unless you offer: You control
All save my dreams."

Would that I could control your bizarre compulsion to deluge the world with romantic sonnets!

"Yes, I would that verse shows
Heart, but I care too much to ask for soul."

Right...

"I care, and hope to hold you as a friend:
Yet pray my dreams do not my intent bend."

Good lord no! We couldn't have that. Perish the thought.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:28 PM

ok, I'll post some more!

7 of 68

Sonnet 21/11/00                                CDLXXXIII

Shall I call out your name, that you might hear
My supplications? I might place my heart
Upon the alter of my words, but fear
That might not be enough to invoke Art.
Shall I ask for your blessing, when the night
Is cloudy? Starless darkness fills my soul
With longing. Shall I dare of desires write?
I would not hope to your concern control.
Am I foolish, now, for caring, or a fool
For seeing you as muse? I hope to find
Some focus: I dare not let my dreams rule.
Yet, I would hold your hand, if you'd not mind.
I do not know you well enough, yet know
I care too much to risk you'd bid me go.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:29 PM

8 of 68

Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXIV

My thoughts confused by dream, and muse, and verse:
How can I vision see, without the light
You bring into my dreams? Does heart reverse
All I know, to hold me, captive to sight?
Light of my night, muse of my dreams, I wait
For direction: I dare not dreams allow
To guide without your words. I know not Fate,
To see future, or to understand now.
I would that I could hold you, but the wire
Between does not allow my arms to reach
To you. Should I ask more than you desire,
I hope that you will tell me so, and smile.
I would carry away, and at some beach
Seek within eyes what I have sought the while.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:31 PM

LH,

May the Force be with you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:34 PM

LH,

"except Yoda, for God's sake."


No, you mean for the Force's sake. There is no God in Star Wars.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:42 PM

LH, Thank you!



" Look, no one talks like that except Yoda,"

I talk that way.

Thus, you are saying I am Yoda.



funny, I never noticed his beard.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 10 - 04:52 PM

Talk that way and understand you people will not. Or annoyed they will become.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:45 PM

Oh? You want more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 10 - 04:58 PM

If threaten me you will, prepared for the consequences you must be.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:35 PM

If you insist...

9 of 68



Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXV

I have not seen into your eyes, nor felt
The touch of skin, nor heard your voice, to know
You hold my heart. I care, but dare dreams melt
Before you? And how would you have me show
Devotion from distance? Caring, I have tears
From reading: How would I feel, to realize
I cannot hold you, or share of those fears?
How could I see through what would fill my eyes?
Yet I would hold you as my friend, and pray
My feelings would reflect your own. I'd kiss
Your forehead and your palm, and hope to say
I do not wish to your written words miss.
It is desire I dare not dream as true:
How can I hope to know if I love you?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:45 PM

Scorn my threats you dare? Incensed I am. Pay dearly you shall. (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 12:53 PM

You want TWO more??

Only if you insist... But you get one for the comment.


10 of 68


Sonnet 24/11/00                                CDLXXXVI

And should I hide my feelings, when we meet,
That I do not risk losing your sweet smile?
Should I not offer to rub oil on feet,
Or not be open how I see you, while
You are before me, and inside my dreams?
I value you as muse more than my heart:
I dare not risk your smile with any schemes,
Nor dare I hear desires, to risk my Art.
I balance on a razor edge between
Fear and desire: I fear I may offend
But seek to know all that I might, and see
All future that my muse will let be seen.
Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 02:33 PM

Ahhhh.....(flexing my hands in delicious anticipation)

All righty then! Let's have at this one.

"And should I hide my feelings, when we meet,
That I do not risk losing your sweet smile?"

Yes, I think you should. Definitely.

"Should I not offer to rub oil on feet,
Or not be open how I see you, while
You are before me, and inside my dreams?"

Oh, you're getting kinky now! Don't go all Biblical on me, okay?

"I value you as muse more than my heart:"

How foolish of you.

"I dare not risk your smile with any schemes,
Nor dare I hear desires, to risk my Art."

Man, we are talking HIGH level risk here! It's white knuckle time, folks...


"I balance on a razor edge between
Fear and desire:"

Like my Dachshund as he attempts to steal the roast off the patio ledge....

"I fear I may offend"

Oh, you DO, sir, you DO.

"But seek to know all that I might, and see
All future that my muse will let be seen."

Forget it. I reveal nothing to the likes of you.

"Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free."

Why not just end it all instead? I can suggest several handy methods of exiting stage left, to use an old expression.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:13 PM

ok,

11 of 68...


Sonnet 24/11/00                                    CDLXXXVII

I would that I could move you to those planes
Where your true self could be seen, by the light
Of stars that mortal has not seen, as white
As snow before it reaches ground: No stains
Upon the moon, that silver glow retains
All eldritch power to future display.
Yet, dare I risk vision? My dreams must pray
That I might call you back, as heart complains.
I'd place the golden bridle in your hand
And watch you ride the unicorn, but know
I dare not seek the slowest of that band
With coat the color of the fallen snow.
Would you be fairy to my troll, and lend
Some portion of your power, to words mend?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:14 PM

12 of 68...


Sonnet 25/11/00                                    CDLXXXVIII

How can I repay that which muse inspires?
I do not know the answer, but I fear
I might give soul that I might stop a tear.
How might I say that which my heart desires?
And what words might I write, to ask reply,
And would my muse give me a future dream
That heart might rest, and future hope redeem?
To muse, I cannot truth of words deny.
I ask the price that my muse might demand
To lend vision to dream: What is the cost
For giving back to my dreams what was lost?
How can I help but stand with heart in hand?
You offer hope: Far more than just a dream,
You send my thoughts upon a different stream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:16 PM

LH,

""I value you as muse more than my heart:"

How foolish of you.
"


With 9 stents and and ICD, the value of my heart is nil- it's the accessories that are so high priced.




""I fear I may offend"

Oh, you DO, sir, you DO.
"

Success at last!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:43 PM

LOL!

What a merry little online tete-a-tete this has become.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:52 PM

Of Course!

With only the two of us demonstrating the stamina to keep weaving this thread, and you having Chongo to assist you, and dachshunds to fall back on, and I having lots more sonnets, there will be no end-

We have reached a perfect balance, between the sublime and the ridiculous. What more could we ask? ( other than a winning lottery ticket?)

BTW, I bought a little red brick schoolhouse in NY state- 4265 sq. ft auditorium and stage. Plan to retire into it in 10 -15 years, which is how long it will take to fix it up.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 04:27 PM

LH,

""Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free."

Why not just end it all instead? I can suggest several handy methods of exiting stage left, to use an old expression. "



I did die once, but I got better. It was during the 3rd angioplasty, when they were putting in the first set of stents.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 04:34 PM

LH,

froman earlier post of yours:

"to deluge the world with romantic sonnets!" I had not thought to include the WHOLE world, but now that you mention it... I've just gotten a contract with Xlibris, so I can get hardcopis out there to all the libraries, high schools, nursing homes, dentist and doctors' offices, and reading rooms. I'll look into the Gideons- maybe

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 10 - 06:37 PM

The horror! The horror! ;-) You will drive traveling salesman mad with frustration.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 May 10 - 06:51 PM

You don't think that some of the sonnets can sub for "Psalms"?


At least for traveling salesmen?



Maybe I can get Chongo to write a chapter...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 10 May 10 - 11:31 PM

3 of 2      XMXXVIII

Hard times
end times
without time to think
each blames the other
ignoring their brother
tasting stagnant quicksand
as we sink
deeper
darker
still blaming
the other
for forgetting
the rope

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:43 AM

Chongo will gladly write a chapter...for an appropriate fee.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:52 AM

Donuel,

Keep working at it- someday you might create something worthwhile.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:54 AM

13 of 68...


Sonnet 26/11/00                                    CDLXXXIX

I would rather cry, than be uncaring:
I cannot not care, and still call you friend.
Yet I call you my muse: Would my heart end
All hope for future verse? Is my sharing
Sadness such a crime? I would have you know
That sadness shared is halved: Love shared is squared,
For giving multiplies. Yet has heart dared
To balance dreams against what your words show?
All that I know does not explain the power
The thought of you controls. I did not seek
To hold more than your smile, but find I speak
In words perhaps more suited to some bower.
I wish for all of Love: Mind, body, soul,
But know that Time has of me taken toll.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:55 AM

14 of 68


Sonnet 26/11/00                                    CDXC        

Might I know where in mind you sit and rest.
That I would know where I might search for muse,
Within these dreams that I cannot refuse.
How might I find that fountain, or seek nest
Of snowy owl with emerald eyes? This day
Fair daughter of the gods, I seek to know
Some portion of your dreams, that I might show
How far that I might go, to light repay.
Had I, within my dreams, the means to find,
I would that I could see into your eyes,
That I might lose all fears, and hear no cries.
Yet in my dreams I wander, sightless, blind.
I do not mean to flatter, but to praise
The muse that in dreams sends to me her rays.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 11:57 AM

LH,

Chong wouldn't settle for credit, and having his work read by all those lonely salesmen?

One would think the product placement payments would be more than enough.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:05 PM

I'm going to see if I can get Chongo to spare a little time from his busy schedule and answer one of your sonnets, Bruce. Hang on...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:07 PM

LH,

Re Chongo and sonnets:

Just remember- 14 lines- the number of rounds in two government .45 auto clips.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:21 PM

Perfect! ;-) Chongo can relate to that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:34 PM

I thought he might.


But have him look at this one:



Sonnet 07/05/02         Bhan Sidhe                DCLXXXVIII

It was an odd noise that I heard, this night:
Not quite a scream, but far more than a gasp,
From moonless darkness, with no stars in sight.
What is this coldness, that my insides clasp?
Why do I weaken, hearing sound so far
Only the echo reaches ear, yet mind
Is twisted from intent? How can I bar
Gate of imagination to wyrd bind?
I fall, boneless with fright, and sweat breaks out;
Bowels turn to water with despair. I weep,
To lose all. I moan, but cannot give shout
To more than whimper, nor my reason keep.
She passes, and I live! Yet dare not rise
For fear of seeing Death within her eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:35 PM

LH,

And I give him, gratis, the next post.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:39 PM

3000

Al

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:41 PM

That was Chongo's number!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:45 PM

I know. Lifes a bitch eh? I only looked in to see if Andrews plectrum was here too.
Al

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 12:48 PM

Did you read all the posts to be sure?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 11 May 10 - 01:05 PM

This Abdul the Bul Bul character is headin' for a nasty end when I find him.

Okay, lemme take a look at one of them sonnets. Hmm.

"Might I know where in mind you sit and rest."

I sit and rest at Duffy's Bar most nights.

"That I would know where I might search for muse,
Within these dreams that I cannot refuse."

I seen a lotta people with dreams they couldn't refuse. Some ended up at the bottom of the lake wearin' concrete overshoes. Ya gotta be careful what you dream for in this life.


"How might I find that fountain, or seek nest
Of snowy owl with emerald eyes?"

Go to a nature park up north in Canada somewhere.

"This day
Fair daughter of the gods, I seek to know
Some portion of your dreams, that I might show
How far that I might go, to light repay."

It is always a question how far t' go with women. Ya gotta watch a dame's body language and the look in her eyes. That tells you a lot. Sometimes it's okay to touch, but sometimes it ain't. A little chivalry goes a long way, and so does a glass or two of really good wine.

"Had I, within my dreams, the means to find,
I would that I could see into your eyes,
That I might lose all fears, and hear no cries."

You are askin' a lot there. I have only met a few who could say they had lost all fears. As for hearin' no cries, I suggest shuttin' yer window, puttin' on some music, and if all else fails...get earplugs.

"Yet in my dreams I wander, sightless, blind."

Get a good pair of specs.

"I do not mean to flatter, but to praise
The muse that in dreams sends to me her rays."

There's a fine line between praise and flattery, isn't there? Most dames will take either. I think yer general approach is way too wimpy for any of the gals I know. They would laugh at you. But if you go courtin' some shrinkin' violet type who reads them romance novels and hides in her apartment al day eatin' tofu, and writes poetry, and collects thousands of little glass figurines of dogs or somethin' like that and puts them in miniature models of gardens that she builds out of cereal boxes and toothpicks, then you might do okay with her. Try the personals column. There are some really weird women out there who can't meet people in a normal way, and I bet there is one out there just for YOU.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 01:19 PM

"I sit and rest at Duffy's Bar most nights."

I tried that for a while, but it depleted my bank account and stressed my liver.





"I seen a lotta people with dreams they couldn't refuse. Some ended up at the bottom of the lake wearin' concrete overshoes. Ya gotta be careful what you dream for in this life."

Some dream of Shatner, some of Dolly Parton...






"Go to a nature park up north in Canada somewhere."

Been there - Banff is my favorite. I need to go again.




"It is always a question how far t' go with women. Ya gotta watch a dame's body language and the look in her eyes. That tells you a lot. Sometimes it's okay to touch, but sometimes it ain't. A little chivalry goes a long way, and so does a glass or two of really good wine."


I agree.



" I have only met a few who could say they had lost all fears. As for hearin' no cries, I suggest shuttin' yer window, puttin' on some music, and if all else fails...get earplugs."

The intent is to not CAUSE any cries- and no, I don't want advice on gags.



"Get a good pair of specs."

Have them already



"There's a fine line between praise and flattery, isn't there? Most dames will take either. I think yer general approach is way too wimpy for any of the gals I know. They would laugh at you. "

They don't sound much like muse material to me.




"But if you go courtin' some shrinkin' violet type who reads them romance novels and hides in her apartment al day eatin' tofu, and writes poetry, and collects thousands of little glass figurines of dogs or somethin' like that and puts them in miniature models of gardens that she builds out of cereal boxes and toothpicks, then you might do okay with her."

( 1071 sonnets so far-) I may have found a few of them)

" Try the personals column. There are some really weird women out there who can't meet people in a normal way, and I bet there is one out there just for YOU."

Only one???

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 01:21 PM

15 of 68...


Sonnet 26/11/00                                CDXCI

I wake to find a cat at either side,
And at my head and feet. Are these the wards
That hold dreams spellbound? Do they help provide
Your power over me? I have no swords
To open circle: Thought of you has bound
With desire's chain, in catacomb of dreams.
Yet, I have forged these shackles: To have found
Muse of such power more than death redeems.
I sleep to find in dream escape from life,
That I might find my heart's desire, and reach
Out to this new-found light. I tire of strife:
Can muse to me some other lesson teach?
I have not right to ask muse for desires:
Nor can I hide what muse in me inspires.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:16 PM

"I wake to find a cat at either side,
And at my head and feet."

That is what happens when you leave half-eaten cans of tuna out on the counter and forget to close the windows that face out on the alleyway.

"Are these the wards
That hold dreams spellbound?"

No. They are a buncha moochin' strays.

"Do they help provide
Your power over me?"

I don't think so. Whaddya you think?

"I have no swords
To open circle: Thought of you has bound
With desire's chain, in catacomb of dreams."

I think you left out the word "me" in that passage. Maybe the words "the", "the", and "my" too. Get a proofreader. Capuchins will hire out for real low rates, and they do a good job too.

"Yet, I have forged these shackles: To have found
Muse of such power more than death redeems."

Death can redeem a lot...but there are limits to what it can do fer really bad poetry. ;-D Ook! Ook!

"I sleep to find in dream escape from life,
That I might find my heart's desire, and reach
Out to this new-found light."

No kiddin'? I do that sometimes too.

"I tire of strife:"

That I can relate to. There are some days I look forward to strife...but then there are those other days when I'd rather just lay in the sun with my sweetie and read a good detective yarn.

"Can muse to me some other lesson teach?"

If she is a woman, I guarantee that she can teach you somethin' you oughta know...

"I have not right to ask muse for desires:
Nor can I hide what muse in me inspires."

Well, good fer you, buster. I see you got yer heart right out there on yer sleeve. What I suggest is to perform some heroic act fer the one who has taken that heart in her hand. Or failin' that...do somethin' else to show you care. Clean up her front yard. Take her out to dinner at a real nice joint. Send her flowers and poetry. Show up drivin' a real snazzy car and wear clean shoes. Spend like there is no tomorrow. (Ya never know about that anyway, so why not go for the gusto?)

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:21 PM

Gee, I like Chongo's advice a lot more than LH's comments.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 10 - 05:39 PM

Well, he is definitely his own man, Bruce...or his own ape...whatever way you want to put it. His enthusiasm for the female gender has never flagged in the slightest, plus he has a really strong romantic streak on top of mere enthusiasm, an old-fashioned sense about courtship and how to treat a lady.

Cindy Lauper said that "girls just want to have fun". That being the case, and I think it's pretty accurate, Chongo is right on target. He definitely believes in having fun. He will also go to the wall and put his life on the line for any gal he cares for...or any gal in distress, period.

The only woman around who seems to think ill of Chongo is "Chinga", his supposed long lost sister...and she's an invention of Amos's. That is all that really needs to be said! ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 May 10 - 07:25 PM

Definitly a primate's primate.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 May 10 - 01:37 PM

Chongo:

"What I suggest is to perform some heroic act fer the one who has taken that heart in her hand. Or failin' that...do somethin' else to show you care."

"Clean up her front yard."

She does not have one.



"Take her out to dinner at a real nice joint. "

I've given an open offer to do so.



"Send her flowers and poetry."

Done.



"Show up drivin' a real snazzy car and wear clean shoes."

Always!



"Spend like there is no tomorrow. "

Waht, you think I'm a member of the Obama Administration? I can only spend all that I have, plus my credit limit.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:00 PM

No reply from Chongo, so I guess I'll post more sonnets...


16 of 68

Sonnet 27/11/00                                CDXCII

Are words all I may offer, to bring smile
To muse who brings those words out of my heart?
So far away, it is not just the mile
That measures distance: Years I've practiced Art
Now stand as barrier to further gift.
Yet, I would that my verse seal out the hours
To hold those moments when my muse might sift
Fingers through leaves, or seek the scent of flowers.
Maiden, mother, crone- Do I in muse seek
To turn back time, or hold to fate? I ask,
But fear the answer. Heart would have me speak,
Though I would not this muse's light now mask.
I pray heart and desire might know the Truth,
But fear it, for I know no longer Youth.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:01 PM

and 17 of 68



Sonnet 28/11/00                        CDXCIII

In evening, and in morning, I hear muse
As whispers fill my mind. When half awake
I cannot ignore them, nor verse refuse,
Nor do I control what form they might take.
Dear muse, I pray that I might know your mind.
That I might glean some offering to place
Upon your altar, or that I might find
Some way to see a smile upon your face.
I do not seek for heart's desire, but ask
What I might have of time, and smile, and thought.
I will not try to set upon heart task
To try to learn if you hold what I've sought.
I ask to take from you what time I might,
That I might see a little of your light.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:06 PM

LH,

" plus he has a really strong romantic streak on top of mere enthusiasm, an old-fashioned sense about courtship and how to treat a lady. "


You sure that he won't run for President as the candidate of the Extreme Center?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:37 PM

He is running for president, but his platform is a little hard to categorize as either Right, Left, or Center. For instance: he's very pro-gun, but he's very anti-war. He would lobby for increased gun ownership amongst the general public and promote opening more firing ranges to train proper handling of firearms, but he would very rapidly pull out of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and he would shut down Guantanamo...no ifs, ands, or buts about that. He would give the place back to Cuba. He would also give the Panama Canal Zone to Panama. And he would make sure that people can continue to smoke in bars if they so desire. He would legalize home cultivation of marijuana for personal use only, but would not allow it to be sold commercially. He would raise the minimum wage significantly and institute universal health care as done in Europe and Canada. He would resume much expanded space exploration and work to put a chimp (or a man) on Mars by 2016. He would put major funding into reforestation efforts in both the USA and abroad, and greatly curtail defence spending. ("We need more trees, not more missiles.")

See what I mean?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 10 - 12:55 PM

OK,. LH, you had it for the weekend.


18 of 68

Sonnet 28/11/00                        CDXCIV

I dare not seek to guide my muse, but verse
Might show to her what she already knows.
Yet, is my desire blessing, or a curse
That threatens to hide what muse's light shows?
I see my muse upon a unicorn, beyond
All mortal reach. Yet I would follow them,
And seek to know how I might form a bond
With her, though I might only heart condemn.
I seek her smiles, and light within her eye,
Yet do not know how best to please this maid.
I do not know how I might Past untie,
But would not have all hope for future fade.
For all that I might dream, and hope, and pray,
I do not know how I might lover play.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 May 10 - 05:23 PM

Man, I used to have problems like that too. I feel your pain. ;-)

Now it doesn't bother me at all being alone, but it would be nice to have one or two good female friends just to talk about stuff with now and then. Good mental and emotional rapport has become more desirable to me than the more volatile ups and downs of conventional romance.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 10 - 01:12 PM

19 of 68


Sonnet 29/11/00                        CDXCV

I write of love, but base my words on hope.
On dreams, and on desires. I do not know
How to give my muse less than heart, or cope
With feelings I should not allow to grow.
You are true muse: I do not this deny,
That you have sent my verse. Yet, shall I dare
To ask for more? To risk all, I might try
To find heart's desire, and show that I care.
Might I ask for the limit you would place
Upon emotions? How can I recall
What I have given, or my words erase?
Would you have me out of caring fall?
You offer hope: A prize I wish to hold,
Though I'd keep friendship, and leave love untold.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 10 - 01:13 PM

and 20 of 68...


Sonnet 30/11/00                        CDXCVI

I am not mage, to offer spell, and hold
Another's will, though I may study past.
But all I know does not make me so bold
To think I might another's actions cast
I am not warrior, that I'd storm your heart
To find what I desire. I seek to know
What path you'd have me take, that I might start
To find those feelings you might care to show.
I am not merchant, that I might heart sell,
Or offer in trade for some gem. I give
Without a price, though I might wish you'd tell
How you feel, that I'd know if dreams might live.
I am poet possessed, by thought of muse,
Yet would not ever wish to spirit lose.





Leaving 3020 for LH's comments...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 May 10 - 03:50 PM

What sweeter muse than the love that's ne'er attained?
For like the distant shining peak of a height that's never climbed
She glistens in unreachable perfection, unmarred by common experience, untouched by trivial loss of faith.
Hers is the limitless measure, hers is the untrodden ground,
Hers is the blossom unbruised by ordinary human compromises.
She entices and inspires, but never disappoints.
She serves as an example to motivate action, and she may give rise to the noblest aspirations in the hearts of her supplicants.
A thousand ships set sail in her name, kingdoms rise and fall,
Yet she remains unblemished by time.
Such are those who have led me on and taught me well to dream.
They have given me song and story to fill my days.
What sweeter muse then, I say, than the love that's ne'er attained?

(The above is free verse rather than sonnet. Hail Winona! Hail Saint Joan!)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 10 - 03:53 PM

True...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 10 - 01:14 PM

21 0f 68...


Sonnet 01/12/00                        CDXCVII

You are a muse beyond compare, to send
This score of verse. Can I hope to repay
What you have given me? Do you intend
To let me try? I would not have you say
More than you wish, but wish that you might tell
Some portion of your feelings. Shall I plead
For knowledge? Might I know that you are well?
I find that words from you are now a need.
Do I ask too much, to seek to know mind
And something of your heart? Must I remain
At such a distance? I had hoped to find
Some reason Fate has led me out of pain.
I know not how I found you, but I fear
Without your words I will not verses hear.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 10 - 01:14 PM

and 22 of 68...


Sonnet 01/12/00                        CDXCVIII

Cassandra, muse of my dreams, you offer
A hope for conversation, and for smile.
To stare into your eyes, and perhaps stir
Within heart, desire; To look at you, while
You speak of future dreams, that would be bliss.
But, shall I risk what little I now hold
In hope that I might earn from you one kiss?
Would you have me be distant, or be bold?
As muse, you hold the power to create,
Or doom desires: I dare not risk the voice
That whispers verse into my head, that Fate
Has silent kept for years. I have no choice.
I wait upon your words: All I might do
Would not, without your smile, to verse be true.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 10 - 04:50 PM

23 of 68


Sonnet 02/12/00                        CDXCIX

My muse returns, and brings a light to day
Grown dreary with her absence. Shall I weep,
For joy her smile now brings? Yet I must stay,
At distance, for a while. I dare not keep
As close as I might wish, for fear that heat
Of raw emotion will melt desires bond.
I want to reach out, but I dare not treat
My muse as mortal maid: I have not wand
To capture heart, or steal, from her, fires
That send me verse. I seek to hold the flame
That lights my dreams, and all my verse inspires:
Yet I would hear her voice call out my name.
You have woken what I had thought had died:
Not only desire, but the dream inside.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 May 10 - 08:53 PM

Wow. Pretty good. Heroic verse indeed, old chap. I could use a bit of such inspiration myself these days.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 04:02 PM

OK, I've recovered from the shock.


Shall I post more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 04:03 PM

Finally came up for air out of the political wrangling pond, eh? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 04:06 PM

Try to find out what the Gulf Coast feels like...

So, more sonnets?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 04:58 PM

Knock yourself out. I'm dying to hear another sonnet. Really, I am. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 05:05 PM

Oh Boy!


24 of 68...


Sonnet 02/12/00                        D

I hear the whisper of my muse, and write,
But dream about her smile. How can I please
This source of inspiration? Would the sight
Of her eyes bring me peace, or would they tease?
I think about her words, and try to form
An image in my mind. How can I tell
If she is touched by verse? Reply is warm,
But have I reached her heart, or just a shell?
I know the reasons that I should not care,
But follow still my heart. How can I hold
To what I must, and to my dreams be fair?
Must I hold back, and end alone and cold?
I question what might be, but do not dare
To ask if I should flee, or show I care.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 05:36 PM

Ah, the agonies of romance! Over what period of time have you been writing these sonnets, BB? Are they all directed toward the same person?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 06:33 PM

Different muses at different times , since 1974...


25 of 68 to this muse


Sonnet 02/12/00                        DI

The power that you hold, as muse, is far
Beyond all understanding. You control
The sounds within my mind, those ghosts that are
The source of verse. You have, within my soul,
Become the center that my dreams revolve
Around. Yet, you control more than just dreams,
To send this verse: Of muse, my hopes involve
Desires, but my thoughts find in you what seems
Far more to me than distant, whispering, voice.
Can I let hope command, and show my need,
Admit all my desires? I have no choice,
But to surrender soul, and mercy plead.
As muse, you have the fire that burns heart clear,
That I can see no hope, without you near.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 12:02 AM

Yeah, I've had a few muses since then too.

Let me think...

Pam. Helen. Helen #2. Sue. Cecile. Terra. Cathy. And a few more after that...but they'd better remain nameless, I think, because they're still maybe a little "too close to home" at this point.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 12:59 PM

I've had fewer- Star, Kelly, Katie, and Rebecca. Others have inspired a few sonnets, but they have given far more.




26 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 02/12/00                        DII

An hour passes, and I wait for muse,
Not knowing. Can I further waiting stand
Without word or reason? Heart will refuse
The thought of leaving: I cannot demand
Reply, though it remains desire. I ask
Too much, perhaps, in seeking to know thought,
But to earn smile, not my intentions mask:
I seek to know if she is what I've sought.
Do I ask more than friendship may allow,
To know when I might see her words, or send
A message? Does she tire of me, now,
Or does she wish that I would questions end?
I do not know how to the silence read,
Whether to beg for time, or let heart bleed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 03:13 PM

27 of 68 to Kelly... ( who used the name Cassandra Mere as a "nom de muse")

Sonnet 03/12/00                        DIII

The words spill out of mind, as fast as pen
Can place them onto page: A stream of verse
That threatens to drown thought. How mortal men
Can hear the muse, and live to let the curse
Of Poetry run wild, I cannot tell.
I know only I cannot voice ignore,
That whispers words in twilight- Just as well
Not hear my heart, or long-past dreams restore.
But you have sent me dreams enough, to show
You hold the key to future. Heart shall seek
To find mirror, that I might myself know.
Would you, as muse, have me further hope speak?
Emotions now control: I find I care,
Though have not met you yet, Cassandra Mare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 10:04 AM

28 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 03/12/00                               DIV

I did not seek you out, but Fate has claimed
Some part of me. In truth, how could I call
An unknown name? I would not have you named
As muse, save that you are. My heart may fall,
Beyond all reason: I do not repent
Of any words I write. But shall I send
You further lines, without reply? You've lent
Less time than I'd desire: Did I offend,
Somehow? In silence I my sorrow read.
I do not know if you ignore my cries,
Or do not hear them. Heart is not a weed,
To be untended: Without care, it dies.
I do not ask that you should bare your soul,
But your soft words would help keep my heart whole.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 01:37 PM

Did you mail any of these to their adored subject? If so, did the fair lady in question save them, and perhaps wallpaper her apartment with them over a period of time? There are certainly enough of them to do the job! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 01:46 PM

Almost all were sent, and acknowledged.


29 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 05/12/00                        DV

How can I give muse reason to spend time
In conversation, when I cannot hold
Her thoughts for even minute? Is there crime,
In wanting to know what she thinks? I'm told
It is not what I say, but why does she
Depart, without a word? Shall I refrain
From asking for these feelings, and let plea
Past made remain unsaid, to fade and wane?
How can I not be concerned, that her hours
Do not have room for me? Each moment spent
With words brings dreams, but I would know her powers
More: To see her eyes, yet keep desires pent.
I would rather that she would tell me go,
Than watch her disappear, and not reason know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 01:49 PM

Ha! Really? Okay, I now know why your love life has been so unfortunate and heartbreaking...

Man, I have got to get Chongo to visit you and give you a little training course on how to deal with women. You'll be glad he did, and his rates are cheap.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 06:49 PM

30 of 68 to Kelly...


Sonnet 05/12/00                        DVI

I do not mean to frighten you away,
That you should run when I call out your name.
You need not worry about me- I'll stay
At distance you desire, and make no claim
Upon your time. I've found you muse, but know
No more than you have told. I might yet dream
Of heart's desire, but only dreams shall go
In search of hope: I would not have it seem
That I require more than smile. Perhaps mail
Has become burden: Shall I not send tithe
Of my endeavors? Yet, does my verse fail
To show my soul? Can you not see heart writhe?
I have no wish to bury verse, but will,
Should you desire: I cannot wish you ill.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 07:58 PM

Chongo tells me that women are often more impressed by men who don't seem to need them all that much. It gives them a challenge, he says.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 08:44 PM

Chongo might be right- but what does that say about (those) women?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 12:22 AM

On the one hand, it could say they're shallow.

On the other hand, it could be that they'd just rather it was their idea. ;-)

I mean, think about it! Who are you more attracted to? The girl who besieges you with phone calls, cards, and poems claiming her undying love for you...or the girl who seems to be independent, happy on her own, sure of herself, and not needy?

Hmm?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 08:39 AM

" The girl who besieges you with phone calls, cards, and poems claiming her undying love for you...or the girl who seems to be independent, happy on her own, sure of herself, and not needy?"


The one who treats me like a human being , and not like something to be ignored or abused.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 12:29 PM

You're sidestepping my point.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 12:51 PM

Which is: when it comes to romance, people are always more for it if they figure it's their idea. This is true of both men and women. The main problem with romance, in fact, is that only rarely are two people equally interested in one another. And the one who is more interested is naturally at a disadvantage...because the one who is less interested tends to back away.

I know this from a long history of being at that very disadvantage. ;-) Then on the other hand, I can think of several women who pursued me...and I barely even noticed them, because I wasn't interested! Poor things. They must have gone through hell. I know what that's like. ;-)

Perhaps the idea of arranged marriages, as practiced in many traditional societies, isn't so bad after all. In practice, it seems to work out about as well as our way does.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 10 - 01:13 PM

This is a test. Stand by.

EEEEE-YAHHHHH!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:24 AM

I stood- but do we REALLY need red letters?

And MOVING, on a Monday Morning??????

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:25 AM

31 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 07/12/00                        DVII

The voice of muse is silent, but I hear
A sound of sorrow in the wind. I weep
To think she has no time for me, but fear
She does not care. How can I my dreams keep
Without her smile? I try to understand
What I might have done, to my heart have held
Away: I cannot regret that muse fanned
My feelings into flame. Yet, heart must weld
These flaws, to seal off hope and dreams, before
They shatter all. I pay the cost of verse,
To worship muse while state of heart ignore:
I write my lines not understanding curse.
I do not know if cost of dreams are high,
Or if this muse remains, to my heart try.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 09:27 AM

32 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 07/12/00                        DVIII

A morning, cold and brisk, that brings me joy
With words from muse. Heart is redeemed, to see
She cares. Though at year's end, my dreams now toy
With springtime, growing, thoughts: There might still be
A chance to look into her eyes, and seek
For heart's desire. Perhaps I care too much,
For one unknown, in truth, but heart is weak
And cannot resist muse: I long to touch
The fire of her hair, see in her eye smile
And laughter. How can I reflect the light
The thought of her has brought? I cannot pile
Praise enough, to let me reach to her height.
My verse has brought her smile- I cannot ask
For more, nor can I all my feelings mask.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 06:39 AM

Sonnet 33 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 08/12/00                        DIX

Dear muse, how can I tell you with what joy
I read your words? I would not wish to cause
You to lose smile, but silence will destroy
My hopes more certainly than death. I pause,
Upon the edge of falling: You have sent
More than I dream, but less than I desire.
But, know I care: My fears may circumvent
These walls to hope, but you still heart inspire.
Perhaps heart has flaw, to care and not know
You would not be so cruel. Yet, I have past
To form my future: How could my words show
How much I want for your sweet smile to last?
I know I cannot more of your time claim,
But I would rather Hope, than chance of fame.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 01:50 PM

How many sonnets does it take?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 01:54 PM

To do what?

293 to Rebecca, so far...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 05:08 PM

34 of 68 to Kelly



Sonnet 08/12/00                        DX

I think that you must be a muse of Moon,
For daylight makes it hard for me to hear
Your voice, while night is filled with word and tune
Enough for all. Does your light, calming fear,
Wax and wane? Might I hope you would dream show?
Does verse reflect your aura? Can I try
To seize even an ember of that glow
And not be burned? Would trying make heart die?
I do not fear the night, but silence fills
My soul with dread. To be alone, without
Shadow of hope: Absence of concern kills
All I dream, and would make of future rout.
I care enough to risk my heart: I hold
No higher coin: It costs me more than gold.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 05:31 PM

"How many sonnets does it take?"

"To do what?"

(Okay....picture Snoopy in the Peanuts comic circa the late 60s. Clad in a WWI flyer's helmet and silk scarf, he sits morosely at an imaginary table in an imaginary French Cafe somewhere within a few miles of the front lines. He is on leave and getting drunk. Glowering over his foaming root beer stein he says to himself...)

"How many root beers does it take? How many root beers does it take to kill the pain? To make the mud and the fear and the blood and the suffering go away? Will this dreadful war never end? Will I ever see my beloved again and hold her in my arms? And will I finally get my revenge on the accursed Red Baron? How many root beers does it take!!???"

Sort of like that. ;-) I see your sonnets as a lengthy campaign against tremendous odds, rather akin to fighting a war that never ends against a foe that can never be vanquished. In your case the foe is romantic loneliness.

And that is why I ask you, "How many sonnets does it take?"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 06:45 PM

I guess the answer is


"All of them."





35 of 68 to Kelly



Sonnet 10/12/00                        DXI

From dark of night to dawn I think of muse
And wonder how I might know her desire.
How can I understand, or know her views,
Without her words? Without, verse becomes pyre
To dream: Just ashes to be cast on page.
I question how I feel. I should not love
But dare, though cannot claim it to be sage:
Heart has not power to keep dreams above.
Am I to wonder if you hear, or care,
That I do not some answer yet receive?
Am I to think you don't have time to share,
Or that I should my inner fears believe?
I must have faith that you still care: My whines
Are weakness. Yet, I pray you read my lines.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Jun 10 - 06:51 PM

36 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 10/12/00                              DXII

I pray you sleep, sweet muse, that you might dream
Of heart's desire. Perhaps you will hear voice
To whisper that I care. Yet, would I seem
Too bold, to ask for more? I have not choice:
As muse, you hold my heart. I know you are
But mortal: Fate has given you the power
Over my dreams. You may be distant, far
From me, but still lend root, to let verse flower.
Still, I would see smile, and look into eyes,
To find out who you are. I seek to know
All that I might, so that I might be wise
In ways of winning muse, to help verse grow.
I seek to know you, mortal maid and muse,
Each aspect that can my heart's hopes refuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 10 - 01:57 PM

I'm not in the mood for this today. How about some heroic frontier poetry in the tradition of Robert Service?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 10:07 AM

How about a Marvelish poem?



               To My Coy Penpal


                Had I but stamps enough, and wit,
                This coyness, woman, were not shit.
                I would perhaps then wish to write
                And of my simple dreams make light.
                You in your books might seek to find
                Some gem-like phrase; I'd let my mind
                Wander to subtle quotes. I'd try
                To find some verse to virtue ply;
                And you could, if you wish, require
                An epic poem to light your fire.
                This High Poetic love would grow,
                Stanza by stanza, to skill show.
                A hundred lines should serve to lend
                A likeness of your face; I'd send
                Two hundred to adore each tit,
                And thousands more, to show my wit.
                An ode to least to every part:
                Perhaps a sonnet for your heart.
                For, woman, you deserve no less,
                Nor would I shorter verses bless.

                But at my pen I often see
                The cost of postage's rising fee:
                And all I'll send will be one page -
                A verse or two to set a stage
                For fond farewells. You will alone
                Seek out the verse, now cold as stone,
                That I once thought. Then worms shall taste
                The letters Post has often raced.
                Your green-inked words will turn to dust;
                And into scrapbooks, all my lust.
                A poem's a fine and fancy thing,
                But does not quite reveal love's sting.

                Now therefore, while the chance remains
                To meet again without the pains,
                And while our letters can still find
                Each of us without other binds,
                Now let us think that we might play
                With more than words, at least today:
                Rather than wait until the years
                Have chewed us up with all our fears,
                Let us now risk an evening's time
                Without the bother of this rhyme,
                And see if what we each desire
                Might match, and thus our pens retire.
                Thus though we cannot make our mail
                Show thought, yet we can souls empale.


                                                27/2/78

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 12:01 PM

LOL! That's great.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 01:36 PM

Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 10 - 10:56 PM

You're welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 02:13 PM

anytime...


Sonnet 37 of 68 to Kelly



Sonnet 11/12/00                        DXIII

The moon casts shadows, both from trees and from
My fears, illuminated by this light.
A silver glow: It cannot help but come
From muse, my verse's source. My dreams take flight,
To think of her. Yet, can this light reveal
More than desire? Can it of future show?
I seek her words to find meaning, to seal
My hopes to fate: I would her secrets know,
To find reason I care. I have not felt
So filled with words: I know she is the cause,
But what source is her power, that I melt
Before her light? The unknown gives me pause.
I reach for heart's desire: But will I find
All of my dreams exist just in my mind?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 10:06 PM

Sonnet 38 of 68 to Kelly




Sonnet 12/12/00                        DXIV

I fear that I might lose the voice of muse
Now found after lost years: I cannot name
The sorrow that would bring. I dare not chose
A path away from her, to heart reclaim.
I fear that I might never see her eyes,
To look beyond her words, and seek her soul.
Yet, dare I take the chance to realize
Her power to shatter, or to make heart whole?
I fear that I might find, only to lose,
My heart's desire. How can I care so much,
Unmet? I know not fate: She may refuse
To fulfill hopes. How can I her heart touch?
I fear a loss far greater than these three:
That heart may speak, and her friendship might flee.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 05:41 PM

39 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 13/12/00                        DXV

I am but mortal, that I wish to hold
Onto what I've found. You have given hope,
And brought back verse to life: Am I so cold
As to ignore desires? Has heart the scope
To worship muse, and not care for her form?
I care, yet wonder if I have the right
That dreams desire: Might I my hopes keep warm
With thoughts of you, and visions of your light?
You know only my words: How might I show
That thought of you is source to verse, and dreams?
How might I dare to let these desires grow,
Yet keep you as my muse, to heart redeem?
I would risk all, save your smile, for your kiss:
But, aiming for your love, what if I miss?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 06:54 PM

I predict that Bearded Bruce will be the last person to post on this thread, and I defy anyone who says otherwise. If I turn out to be wrong, may I be struck down by lightning and destroyed utterly. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 06:59 PM

not likely!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 08:40 PM

Well, I'm relieved to hear you say that. ;-) I'm depending on you, man. Don't let me down.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 06:37 PM

Sonnet 40 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 18/12/00                        DXVI

I have not heard your words the past few days
And cannot tell how much the silence pains.
How can I hope, without words to show ways
To bring your smile? Yet my desire attains
Not less, but more: I still would seek to know
When I might look into your eyes, and see
If muse be more than dream. Can my words show
How I desire, yet fear? Is my heart free
To turn away, if you seek end to verse?
I cannot know, but think not: I have found
You to inspire. I might silence rehearse,
But find I am with faint whispers still bound.
I write these lines, but whispers still in mind
Cause me to seek your light, though I am blind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 02:15 PM

Sonnet 41 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 19/12/00                        DXVII

I call out your name in the night, but hear
No reply. The whispers fade, without word
And without smile. As moon grows dim, my fear
Grows stronger still: How can I be assured
When I have lost my focus on my muse?
I drift, reaching for stray lines, to pull dreams
To harbor. I have not anchor to use,
To keep from drifting in the night. It seems
Too quiet, here: I pray, but hear no voice
To bring me verse. Where is my muse, this cold
And clouded night? Is heart to have no choice
Between silence, and risk of being bold?
My words become as ice, to fall and shatter:
Without words from my muse, what does it matter?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 03:03 PM

Sonnet 42 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 12/10/01                                DCX

Have I reason to be concerned, that you
Have sent no word for several days? I know
You're busy, and I should not fear, but do:
I fret, though lines in journal your health show.
I know I am fool, when I know for sure
That you are well, and have no time to spare.
Yet, I miss words; My greed for you is more
Than even I think wise: But still I care.        
I should not ask of you as much as what
I do: You have enough to occupy
Your time. Yet, can I ask that you not shut
Me out of mind, that I must watch dreams die?
I know I have no right, yet might I pray
That you will offer words, and my fears slay?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 03:14 PM

Opps!

That should have been:

Sonnet 42 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 22/12/00                        DXVIII

My mind is quiet, silent as a grave
Where dreams may be interred. I do not hear
The sound of distant voices: Am I knave,
To seek some word? Will my muse reappear
When moon reflects on silver snow? I hold
To hope: I dare not imagine I'd lose
This new-found muse. Yet, evenings are now cold
Without the flame of dreams for verse to use.
My heart is heavy with regrets, that I
Have not yet seen her smile, nor heard her voice.
I do not know if further line might try
To find way to her heart: It is her choice.
Yet, might I plead to look into her eyes,
And seek for some sign of missing replies?


I certainly don't want to get ahead of myself here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 04:07 PM

No, we wouldn't want that...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 04:19 PM

So I will take steps to correct things.


btw,

Sonnet 43 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 25/12/00                        DXIX

My muse weaves webs to capture soul, of love
For its power to hold, and of moonlight,
To tangle dreams that seem to fly above
Control of heart. She sits up late at night
And forms her magic. How could heart escape
From such sweet capture? How can mortal stand
Against hope of heart's desire? Her hands shape
Spells that ask for naught, yet my thoughts demand.
My dreams are moths, attracted to her flame,
Though they cannot survive. I am now caught
Between fear and desire: My heart would name
Her muse, but can she be one dreams have sought?
I find I love her now, for being muse:
Yet her spells still my heart and dreams confuse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:06 PM

Sonnet 44 of 68 to Kelly...


Sonnet 28/12/00                        DXX

Placing my dreams upon alter of heart,
I pray my muse might send some hope, or lend
Me words to put some passion in my art.
What might I offer, that my muse might bend,
And smile in my direction? Heart's desire
Might make me bold, but I would have her speak
Of what she will, and let her voice inspire.
Is this to be my fate, to always seek
Beyond all reason, for what I would hold?
I do not know how I could offer less
Than caring, for words emotions enfold.
Yet, dare I hope even to muse confess?
I worship muse as source of light, but know
I cannot see beyond what she might show.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:08 PM

How has Kelly responded to this avalanche of poetic worship?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:25 PM

Not as I would have hoped- but she still talks with me, occasionally.


Sonnet 45 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 30/12/00                        DXXI

The moon is now a needle, curved to sew
The nets you form to capture dreams and snare
Stray souls. Without words, only heavens show
Such signs of muse. Yet, could I moonlight share,
And still stay distant? Lines echo in heart
In seeking muse, and friend, and dream. Are you
So much more than you seem? Are you a part
Of future? My heart cannot know as true
What still remains unseen in eyes: You hold
Inspiration, but do you hold desire?
I wait for dream, but still hope to be told
When I might see you, and questions retire.
As muse of rare degree you hold my mind:
Would that you to my dreams could be as kind.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:39 PM

LOL!!! And this doesn't tell you something?

Say, I've noticed something interesting. No Democrats ever seem to post to this thread. What does it mean?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 02:43 PM

No staying power?

They dislike sonnets??


Sonnet 46 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 04/01/01                        DXXII

I think of muse, and dream of her sweet smile,
But dreams are all I have: I have not seen
Into the depths of eyes, nor can I, while
She remains at this distance. Does she mean
To keep me here, or is it again Fate,
Now fighting my desires? This ebb and flow,
First finding muse, then causing me to wait,
Wears at my hopes: How might I future know
When present remains hidden? Shall I plead
Beyond my verse, to see her? Should I take
This silence to speak volumes, or not read
My fears to dreams, and not my heart awake?
A new year starts, and, with it, I must pray
That I might see smile and her eyes, someday.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:03 PM

I'm betting that the insensitive sods don't like sonnets AND have no staying power to boot!

Say, is there any way I could reach Kelly? I'd like to commiserate with her. Is she on Facebook?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:10 PM

See PM.

No idea how she will take your contact- she is married now...


Sonnet 47 of 68 to Kelly...


Sonnet 05/01/01                        DXXIII

Without some word from my muse verses die,
Leaving but shells, and scattered lines that hold
Faint chance in desert dreams. How shall I try
To grow hope in mind, when silence has told
The fate of my endeavors? Dare I weep
For future, mourn what will not be, and know
I cry in vain, when tears are all that keep
My lines alive? And, can tears even show
How loud this silence is, and how much pain
The absence brings to heart? I will not say
I have earned more than smile, but to remain
Unknowing, without hope of finding way?
I do not ask for her soul, or her heart:
But pray for her words to give to my art.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 02:53 PM

Sonnet 48 of 68 to Kelly.


Sonnet 06/01/01                        DXXIV

Dear muse, I have no hope to hold your heart,
Yet pray you read my words: Can they not reach
Some part, to keep your friendship, and to start
At least conversation? Will you yet teach
How to control desires, or harness dreams?
I may despair of looking in your eyes,
But will you send your words, and let the beams
Of inspiration help my verse be wise?
I do not know why you fill thoughts, or send
Such music to my soul: I reap harvest
Of poetry, but fear silences rend
My dreams to dust, and heart beyond all rest.
Perhaps this is the cost I pay for verse:
That light of muse is balanced by this curse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 10:52 AM

Don't stop now, man! I am thirsting for more sonnets.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 11:45 AM

To quote "The Princess Bride"

"As you wish."


Sonnet 49 of 68 to Kelly.

Sonnet 07/01/01                        DXXV

My dreams have visions of you now, dear muse,
For you are beautiful: How can I keep
From dreaming of your eyes? My heart could lose
All sense of time, within your gaze: I weep
To know I will not hold you. Shall I dare
To say how sweet your smile seems, or reveal
How much I want to run fingers through hair?
That muse is such a vision my fates seal.
I would that I might touch your cheek, and see
If you are real: Though known mortal, you seem
From higher plane. I cannot dare to free
My soul to love, in case you are but dream.
Your eyes capture my heart, and I am bound:
Can any words on page tell what I've found?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 12:26 PM

Man, the agonies you must have gone through! It reminds me of my own romantic misadventures over the last 3 or 4 decades.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 01:57 PM

Yes, but "It hurts so good."


Sonnet 50 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 25/10/01                                DCXIX

I wish my hands could touch you, perhaps tease
A little, and then all of desires please.
If love is just a dream, then let us sleep
Forever, my arms around you, and keep
The fire of your heart inside of my verse:
Would that I could hold you, instead of terse
Messages: I could read in your eyes more
Than words might say, and let my passions soar.

I offer you far more than dreams, as much
As I might have, but know only words touch
Across this distance. In heart, I regret
That Time allows no more than verse to set
A crown upon you: As muse, you now rule
The landscape of dreams with one subject, fool.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 01:58 PM

OOPS! another miscopy.

That SHOULD be

Sonnet 08/01/01                        DXXVI

Can any words on page tell what I've found?
The thought of you gives me my verse, and dreams
That find me in the night. I wait for sound,
Not spoken, to inspire: The silence seems
To be but voices, out of reach. I try
To place feelings on page, but do not know
If you hear my desire. I know not why,
Or how, but thought of you holds me, as though
Heart has no choice. Yet, shall I dare, to care
When you've other concerns? I cannot reach
To that part of you that might feelings share.
Is there no hope to lend presence and speech?
Heart does not allow choice: You bring the light,
No matter if you remain beyond sight.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 12:56 PM

Sonnet 51 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 10/01/01                        DXXVII

No matter if you remain beyond sight,
I hope to read your words, dear muse. If fate
Is that we never meet, I dare not fight,
But don't wish to lose what I've found, of late.
The ice dusting ground seems carpet of gems,
As cold as dreams without you. But they shine
And lend beauty to night: Cold dreams, like stems
Without flowers, do not visions refine.
I hoped for heart's desire, but I would take
What friendship you might give: You remain muse
Regardless. You have caused verse to awake:
I would not any part of you refuse.
I seek to hold you as my muse, but know
I could not write if I did not care so.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 05:23 PM

Sonnet 52 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 16/01/01                        DXXVIII

I could not write if I did not care so,
About you: Your words reach my soul, and hold
A part of me long lost. But can I show
With words what your words share? Without, I've cold
Imaginings. You are my muse, to send
Such whispers in the night. I would not trade
The thought of you for gold, nor would I end
My vision: Dare I show dreams hope has made?
You are my muse, and yet, I dare not claim
More than few words, and smile: You have not sent
Enough of heart to let my verses name
You more. Must all dreams of you remain pent?
I cannot offer more than heart and soul:
Can you see future where I might play role?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 06:59 PM

You're not being lazy and repeating any of these, are you? It gets a bit hard to follow the script and remember which page one is on after awhile...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:09 PM

I certainly hope not! But these are a corona...

Sonnet 53 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 18/01/01                        DXXIX

Can you see future where I might play role
As other than the fool I seem to be?
Can heart afford to pay whatever toll
My dreams demand, or will these dreams now flee
As have my hopes? Can you return a part
Of the concern I offer? Shall I pray
For understanding, when I feel my heart
Has less of you than I might wish, today?
I hold you as my muse: Though I desire
Dream, I dare not ask for more than smile, now.
I would not have you of my verses tire,
But without hope, my words to silence bow.
I do not ask for love, but can you write
Some words of how you feel, to restore light?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:49 PM

Can you see future where I might play role
As other than the fool I seem to be?

I'm not sure. That depends on your capacity for change.

Can heart afford to pay whatever toll
My dreams demand, or will these dreams now flee
As have my hopes?

That depends on the strength of your heart.

Can you return a part
Of the concern I offer?

Ummm....okay...sit down. Are you sitting down? Ready? Don't get your hopes up too high! ;-)

Shall I pray
For understanding, when I feel my heart
Has less of you than I might wish, today?

Sure. Go ahead and pray all you want. It's free.

I hold you as my muse: Though I desire
Dream, I dare not ask for more than smile, now.

That's reasonable...

I would not have you of my verses tire,
But without hope, my words to silence bow.

Silence always wins in the end, doesn't it?

I do not ask for love, but can you write
Some words of how you feel, to restore light?

Righto. Okay, I feel great. Never better. The birds are singing, the breeze is blowing gently, and the river flows by undiminished. My cup runneth over. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:58 PM

Sonnet 54 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 24/01/01                        DXXX

Some word of how you feel, to restore light
To dreams, would feed my verse. Yet, you now send
Faint hope for future, and no hope for sight
Of eyes reflecting my desire. The end
Of hope does not my passion place in grave:
To cease to care would be to cease to live.
Yet, what words might I send, to my hope save
From dissolution? Heart would have me give
My soul for your few words: Am I to yield
All that I dream for this faint hope, unfounded?
Yet, dare I hold my thoughts, and keep dreams sealed,
When I would have my future verse unbounded?
How can I my hopes light, without your flame?
How can I verses find, but not love claim?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:59 PM

Sonnet 54 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 28/01/01                        DXXXI

How can I verses find but not love claim
From within heart, without some word to base
My visions on? Can dreams remain the same
With no reply? Am I to future face
With no sign of your smile? I can but ask
For indication of your mood, to show
Some guidance to my verse. Does silence mask
Wish to be left alone? If so, bid go
And I will flee. You control my vision,
As my light: Without, I see only dark
Demented dreams. I wait for decision
With hope that I might in words find some spark.
Though you seem to by silence verse refuse,
My dreams have visions of you now, dear muse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM

Last should have been

"Sonnet 55 of 68 to Kelly"


I think I should just start over at the beginning- that way you can get the flow of feelings without my mispostings.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:05 PM

Sure, why not? Give it your all.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:18 PM

OK then.


1 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 10/11/00                        CDLXXVII

Could I look in your eyes, I'd hope to find
A muse to hold my weary heart in thrall.
Such I might dream: Yet, would I with dreams bind
Soul to another, when I Past recall?

Might I know more of you, to understand
All you might ask, and what you might refuse?
Raise not my hopes, that heart might heart demand,
Except that you would hearts and souls yet fuse.

Keep what I offer clear: I do not know
Enough to know where these desires might lead.
Let time and conversation serve to show,
Least I my dreams into your words might read.
Echos of past show paths I dare not go:
Yet I would know if you might fill my need.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:18 PM

2 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 15/11/00                        CDLXXVIII

I have not looked into your eyes, nor seen
Your smile, yet I would call you friend, and care
About how you might feel. I do not mean
To push myself on you, but concern share.

I have not heard your voice, but seek to find
Your thoughts within the words you send. I read,
And try to see how you might be, in mind:
I wonder, that I see in you, my need.

Do I but see reflection, that I see
That which I wish to see? Are you a dream,
To match all my desires? Might you yet be
The muse I seek, and all that you now seem?

I do not know, yet know I must decide
If to see you, or from future hope hide.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:19 PM

3 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet        16/11/00                        CDLXXIX

Do I ask for too much, too soon, to seek
To look into your eyes? Must I pretend
To not care for your smile? Yet, would I send
My words, if I did not care? I am weak
Against emotions: Would you have me speak
Without my heart, as if you had not power
To drive dreams to despair? Would you spend hour
To seal my fate, or free me from this peak?

I am trapped- All directions lead me down
To an abyss, save that I look to you
For inspiration. Would you raise vision
Above this? Is my hope to be but clown,
To amuse? Can I hope to know your true
Opinion, without risk of derision?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:20 PM

4 of 68 to Kelly

Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXX

In lilac scented smoke my muse reclines
As I ask questions, to determine how
I might encourage smiles. I seek for signs
To tell how I might capture dreams, for now.

In moonlight I might find within her eyes
More than reflections of my own desires:
To see past stars within some future skies,
And feel within my heart emotions fires.

Yet in soft flame, I might more meanings find
Within her look. I seek to center know,
That I might have some guide, and not be blind
To what I ask, and seek in verse to show.

I shall light candles to my muse, to seem
As stars around her haloed hair, and dream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:28 PM

I can envision Kelly staggering back, sonnet after sonnet, as under an avalanche of blows in a Sylvester Stallone flick... ;-) Can she "go the distance"?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:29 PM

5 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 17/11/00                                CDLXXXI

I now regret I did not know you, when
That which you tell occurred. I cannot send
Comfort or caring to past. To open
My heart to you, that I might hope to mend
Some of your hurt, I must at least now try.
Yet, can I hope to share what you now feel,
Or just helpless stand, listening to you cry?
I have not knowledge to which fate I seal.

I cannot alter past, to comfort you
Or care while it did matter. Can I hold
You as a friend, and offer shoulder now?
I care, that you remember pain, and know
Such loss. I hope you do not think me bold,
To offer healing where I don't know how.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:30 PM

Well, check the dates- it does take me SOME time to write them...


6 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 18/11/00                                        CDLXXXII

I think about you, muse, but fear desire
Might color vision: Do I ask for more
From you than to future image inspire?
I dare not impact to my dreams ignore.
I cannot say my heart might not be found
To be under your power: I would lie
To say I would resent emotion. Bound
To Past, heart might yet hope to future tie.
Yet I dare not upon your smile impose,
Nor ask, unless you offer: You control
All save my dreams. Yes, I would that verse shows
Heart, but I care too much to ask for soul.
I care, and hope to hold you as a friend:
Yet pray my dreams do not my intent bend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:31 PM

7 of 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 21/11/00                                CDLXXXIII

Shall I call out your name, that you might hear
My supplications? I might place my heart
Upon the alter of my words, but fear
That might not be enough to invoke Art.
Shall I ask for your blessing, when the night
Is cloudy? Starless darkness fills my soul
With longing. Shall I dare of desires write?
I would not hope to your concern control.
Am I foolish, now, for caring, or a fool
For seeing you as muse? I hope to find
Some focus: I dare not let my dreams rule.
Yet, I would hold your hand, if you'd not mind.
I do not know you well enough, yet know
I care too much to risk you'd bid me go.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:37 PM

8 0f 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXIV

My thoughts confused by dream, and muse, and verse:
How can I vision see, without the light
You bring into my dreams? Does heart reverse
All I know, to hold me, captive to sight?
Light of my night, muse of my dreams, I wait
For direction: I dare not dreams allow
To guide without your words. I know not Fate,
To see future, or to understand now.
I would that I could hold you, but the wire
Between does not allow my arms to reach
To you. Should I ask more than you desire,
I hope that you will tell me so, and smile.
I would carry away, and at some beach
Seek within eyes what I have sought the while.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 01:17 PM

9 0f 68 to Kelly


Sonnet 23/11/00                                CDLXXXV

I have not seen into your eyes, nor felt
The touch of skin, nor heard your voice, to know
You hold my heart. I care, but dare dreams melt
Before you? And how would you have me show
Devotion from distance? Caring, I have tears
From reading: How would I feel, to realize
I cannot hold you, or share of those fears?
How could I see through what would fill my eyes?
Yet I would hold you as my friend, and pray
My feelings would reflect your own. I'd kiss
Your forehead and your palm, and hope to say
I do not wish to your written words miss.
It is desire I dare not dream as true:
How can I hope to know if I love you?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 01:57 PM

is it time for more sonnets??

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 02:05 PM

No. But it is time for another drink.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 02:08 PM

Can't really argue with that...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 02:13 PM

and, looking at the dates, I think I have been last longer.




but I will be nice to Chongo, and not post another sonnet.... today.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 02:17 PM

and, looking at the dates, I think I have been last longer.




but I will be nice to Chongo, and not post another sonnet.... today.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 11 - 09:45 PM

Then we shall await tomorrow....

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 11 - 07:25 AM

Sonnet 10 of 68 to Kelly



Sonnet 24/11/00                                CDLXXXVI

And should I hide my feelings, when we meet,
That I do not risk losing your sweet smile?
Should I not offer to rub oil on feet,
Or not be open how I see you, while
You are before me, and inside my dreams?
I value you as muse more than my heart:
I dare not risk your smile with any schemes,
Nor dare I hear desires, to risk my Art.
I balance on a razor edge between
Fear and desire: I fear I may offend
But seek to know all that I might, and see
All future that my muse will let be seen.
Perhaps I must risk all, that I might end
Unknowing, and my heart, to seek muse, free.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 12 - 12:16 PM

still last...

Sonnet 12 to Kelly

Sonnet 25/11/00                                    CDLXXXVIII

How can I repay that which muse inspires?
I do not know the answer, but I fear
I might give soul that I might stop a tear.
How might I say that which my heart desires?
And what words might I write, to ask reply,
And would my muse give me a future dream
That heart might rest, and future hope redeem?
To muse, I cannot truth of words deny.
I ask the price that my muse might demand
To lend vision to dream: What is the cost
For giving back to my dreams what was lost?
How can I help but stand with heart in hand?
You offer hope: Far more than just a dream,
You send my thoughts upon a different stream.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 12 - 03:53 PM

Nice.

I hope the fair maiden had at least some appreciation of all that devotion.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Jan 12 - 10:31 AM

Not really...



Sonet 64 of 68 to Kelly



Sonnet 13/12/02                         DCCLXX

You offer little chance for those who care
To help, or ease your pain. Do you desire
To reward thoughtlessness, or just to share
The agony with those of whom you tire?
You offer all to those that heart abuse,
And less than nothing to one who lends tears.
Is that what you wish, to concern refuse,
And seek for ways to multiply your fears?
You offer nothing that might give me hope
You will alter this path. How can I stand
To watch soul suffer? My heart cannot cope
With knowing you such harm to self demand.
I care too much, but cannot to you reach,
When you your own despair of life beseech.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jun 12 - 11:01 AM

refresh.


Anyone want more sonnets? Just post here...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 12 - 12:54 PM

You must be getting pretty desperate for attention to refresh this damn thing again.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jun 12 - 04:55 PM

You know, this is just too easy. It's too easy a concept. Any dork can get the LAST post...for the time being...but how about the middle post? Getting the middle post in a lengthy thread is much more difficult, requires much more planning (or luck) and therefore more prestige should accrue to securing the middle post than the last post.

I have therefore started a thread upon that principle. Have a look, Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Jan 14 - 01:49 PM

LH has been last for over 18 months. I guess we need to do something about that.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 05:24 AM

I'd like to put in a bid for the honour.

Snag is, it would have to be a profound statement... I don't know any. Mind you, I was listening to some old tapes of guests we recorded at a folk club thirty odd years ago, and I cam across Mike Harding saying,

If music be the food of love, why don't rabbits sing like buggery?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 01:58 PM

I hate to rain on anyone's parade and claim the last post...heaven forbid...I can't even play the cornet. However I wanted to let you know that Bearded Bruce has given his kind permission to use one of his sonnets in the "In Memoriam" thread. Thanks Bruce.

Best wishes,

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 02:48 PM

me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 02:59 PM

I think Musket deserves to be last for at least a week, for his posted comment.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:01 PM

BTW, LH, I think I MAY be in the middle- check page 32...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:04 PM

me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:13 PM

well….

293 of 293 to my muse…


Sonnet 16/02/10                                       MLXXI

I envy one within my muse's arms,
The focus of a love I cannot know.
How can I beg to share my muse's charms,
When I've not hope that my hope might yet grow?
What can I do, to earn a glance as sweet
As that muse gives to one who has her smile?
How might I fraction of that love entreat,
That someday both could lend dreams, for a while?
Is there yet reason I should dream of eyes
That hold my heart? Dare I offer my verse
To ask for her bright smile? Yet, am I wise
To seek lost dreams, or past hopes to life nurse?
I cannot not write when my muse remains
Within my dreams: Must past leave future stains?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:18 PM

me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:22 PM

Repeating the same post THREE times? Not a worthwhile effort at all. Have you no pride?




Sonnet 292 of 293….

Sonnet 21/01/10                                       MLXX

Have I reason to think I might now seek
To know my muse's dreams? Should I inquire
As to her heart's desires, or try to speak
Of how she might by words my heart inspire?
Have I a hope to win her smile, or earn
A chance to look in eyes? Might I keep dream
Alive, that she remains my muse, or learn
Enough, to silence from past years redeem?
Have I the chance to change a part of past,
And offer more than words? Will time permit
My heart to heal, and hold to muse at last?
Can I find words that would desires fit?
I cannot know if muse might want my verse:
Yet thought brings lines, be it blessing, or curse.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:46 PM

nope

me

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jan 14 - 03:52 PM

291 of 293….


Sonnet 28/02/08                                  MLXIX

I wonder how you are, but cannot know
When you so silent stay: Am I to dream
If you are happy? Might muse some sign show
Of heart's desires found, to past hopes redeem?
Have you the time to tell if you now smile,
And what might hold attention of your eyes?
Will you share dreams, or offer just a while
When I might pretend you still think me wise?
I ask that you remember I still care
For all dream offered, and my muse inspired.
I cannot but regret I do not share
The thoughts and visions I so once desired.
All past has given are words, dreams, and hope:
Without muse, how can any poet cope?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 01:29 PM

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 01:37 PM

290 of 293…


Sonnet 17/01/08                                  MLXVIII

Night sky holds a bright waning moon, but I
Hold only hopeless dream: Muse is too far
In time and miles to hope to hear reply.
How can heart hope when silence fair dreams bar?
Should I try to remember, or forget
What thought of her once gave? Is there a chance
That shadow of dream might return, to let
Lost hopes lead heart to memory of romance?
Night's bitter chill, without my muse to lend
The dream to brighten darkness, or give heat
To passions cooled by empty nights. What end
Can heart hope for, but to lost dreams repeat?
Do hopes, or fears, or tears matter at all,
When I cannot for muse's soft words call?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 02:55 PM

hohum

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 02:57 PM

Sonnet 21/12/07                                  MLXVII

Without muse to guide dreams, I cannot find
The path to heart's desire: Hope is now lost.
Yet, should heart count all inspiration blind,
When memory remains, to show hope's cost?
I care now for past dreams, and words the thought
Of eyes and smile gave heart. Must I regret
Once holding dreams? Should I not have hope sought?
Does love for source of dream Nature upset?
Without word, I know not the fate of one
I held as heart's desire: Dare I request
You tell if you are happy? Would you shun
One who in past tried to give you his best?
Is there now reason that I should not care
About the muse who once her dreams would share?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 02:59 PM

I would think you might at least TRY to find something to actually say, to claim the "last" spot.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 14 - 05:36 PM

Why?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: gecko
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 05:47 AM

I think women will know where I'm coming from....
gecko

IN THE PARK, LOOKING…
            (Barbara Giles)

I'm not too old to like the shape of a man,

his walk, the set of his head on his shoulders,

the strong legs, well fleshed, and that bright

dark browed glance. There's a nose that I like,

admiring, blank faced. If you should

see me looking, if you saw me at all,

you'd think I'm reminded of someone,

husband, son, grandson, not that I look at you

as a woman looks at a man who stirs her.


The heart lifts, it's good to see a fine man,

to think - there goes a man I could love.

I'm looking at you, not remembering.

But as I well know, you don't see me,

old women are almost invisible. If I do catch your eye,

likely enough you'll be thinking,

'She has a look of my mother.'

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 10:37 AM

Nice

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 12:12 PM

I made my comments back here

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 12:31 PM

Let's see if the dozy buggers fall for this. I have a cunning plan......


THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED








There. That ought to do the trick Musket old lad, you canny rascal.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 01:29 PM

Nice try - not

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 03:46 AM

This is a nicer try

Doing it later at night you see, whilst Michael sleeps off the cooking sherry.

Ok Musket old lad, you've still got what it takes.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 04:16 AM

Keep telling you: I don't drink; & if/back·when I did, it wouldn't·be/wasn't cooking sherry...

Why don't you ever listen, Cloth·ears?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 04:36 AM

Temper...

I'll win this you know. Watch.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 05:22 AM

Got to have last word, eh? Who think UR ~~ my mother-in-law? They're both dead, so sucks!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Ignatz Macomber Last
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 07:19 PM

So, does I.M. Last mean I win automatically?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 12:08 AM

Ingenious but unacceptable, I fear, Ignatz. The lower-case 'l' in thread title precludes such shifts & evasions!

♫♩♫ Any last you can be, I can be laster;
I'll get here faster and be laster than you! ♩ ♩ ♩

[After] Irving Berlin

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:43 AM

Singing at that time of day? I must be right.

WARNING. SUSPECT VIRUS. DO NOT OPEN THIS THREAD.







A variation in a theme but you never know.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:32 AM

Eh?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 11:52 AM

Sonnet 04/11/07                                  MLXVI

In midnight dream her bright smile haunts me still,
Though daylight shows no trace. Can dream survive
The ghost of heart's desire? Her words yet fill
Corners of mind: Can ghost future revive?
I'll not forget the dreams she gave, nor lose
Vision given: Can I heart's light recall
Without thinking of her? Soul does not choose
To forget: Loss of past would cost me all.
Yet, heart has not hold upon muse: She gives
What she might, and no more. Should I now plead
For what she does not wish? Only dream lives
Future desired: Hope does not fill my need.
Even ghost gives me reason to rejoice:
Heart does not allow any other choice.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 01:04 PM

Fine sonneteer. But how any more related to challenge implied by thread-title than the ultra-laconic posts of mine which BB denounced as unacceptable?

I think we should be told!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 04:11 PM

Any posts to this thread are an invitation for me to post more sonnets. Just read back through the whole thread….


Sonnet 03/11/07                                  MLXV

To absent friends and lost loves let us drink,
Recalling smiles and times that all once shared.
On those no longer near let us now think,
To bring back reasons that for them we cared.
Some are not here, yet still remain, within
The songs and words they left behind. And some
Are in our souls, when hopes or dreams begin:
A part of what each of us have become.
To those apart let us now raise a glass
And take a moment to give thanks for all
That we from others have ourselves received.
The world's a school, and our lives just a class
In playing well with others. Can we call
It more? Are we by our egos deceived?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 05:42 PM

No

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 07:37 AM

Sonnet 07/07/07                                  MLXIV

This muse's moon gives evening silver light,
But dream cannot see other than the past.
How can I find a source of verse so bright
As thought of her? Does only darkness last?
Dawn does not offer hope: Each day remains
Without a muse's fire. How can heart find
Echo of beauty, when dream's darkness stains
The memory of times I was not blind?
Eyes open, but see nothing: Sight is gray,
When noon light should show all of life's real shades.
What can I do, to remove tears, but pray
To find true muse before all of hope fades?
Time does not alter that I care, nor change
The hope muse might one day these dreams arrange.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Musket
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 09:51 AM

Ok my turn.

Shall I compare thee to a second hand dartboard?
Thou certainly doesn't sweat much for a fat lass.
If they were small enough to be buds I may
Enjoy, but need ropes and crampons to navigate them.

My hypocrisy and misogyny I give to thee
To berate me, twice a day.
I get laddish cos I was told it works
By a bloke for whom it doesn't, it seems.




Dead easy this sonnet lark.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:07 AM

Sorry, THAT was not a sonnet by any standard.

14 lines, rhymed iambic pentameter to qualify. Various rhyme schemes are allowable, and hexameter ( alexandrines) have been permitted in the past.


Sonnet 13/07/06                                  MLXIII

Does love for muse require that one weep
When moon recalls past dreams, or stars remind
About her eyes? Can true desire sleep,
When night gives dream the power to heart bind?
She gives no sign she wants what I might send,
Nor does she share her dreams, to feed my own.
Yet, even silence cannot longings end
When I think of past inspiration shown.
Should I admit concern, or think to hide
That she still matters to my heart? I know
I should not hope nor dream to her confide,
But thoughts of her always my caring show.
It does not matter what I say, or feel:
Without her, how can any hope be real?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:10 AM

In the old days a poet used to sweat turning out a sonnet, say. Very difficult form. Exactly 14 lines, all of them hung together with rhyme, rhythm, meter, perfectly. It was too much work for the poet, so blank verse and then free verse came in. And then anarchy. The new poet never bothered to learn how to write a sonnet, or to measure his lines in correct meter and to follow a rhythm system. He dashed off his inspired poem in a matter of a half hour and was surprised when after a few decades of this people stopped reading poetry.



Among the Bad Baboons, by Mack Reynolds
Copyright 1968 Galaxy Publishing Corp.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:30 AM

sonnet
Fixed verse form having 14 lines that are typically five-foot iambics rhyming according to a prescribed scheme. The sonnet is unique among poetic forms in Western literature in that it has retained its appeal for major poets for five centuries. It seems to have originated in the 13th century among the Sicilian school of court poets. In the 14th century Petrarch established the most widely used sonnet form. The Petrarchan (or Italian) sonnet characteristically consists of an eight-line octave, rhyming abbaabba, that states a problem, asks a question, or expresses an emotional tension, followed by a six-line sestet, of varying rhyme schemes, that resolves the problem, answers the question, or resolves the tension. In adapting the Italian form, Elizabethan poets gradually developed the other major sonnet form, the Shakespearean (or English) sonnet. It consists of three quatrains, each with an independent rhyme scheme, and ends with a rhymed couplet.


Calling your "poem" a sonnet would be like calling a tin can banjo a piano.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:01 AM

I intended an ode
But it turned to a sonnet
It began à la mode
I intended an ode
But Rose crossed the road
In her latest new bonnet
I intended an ode
But it turned to a sonnet

by Henry Austin Dobson. b. 1840

A perfect example, not of a sonnet, but of a triolet. I once managed a series of folk-themed triolets for Folk Review, & even one villanelle, which is a difficult form -- all this following on from folk limerick & clerihew competitions that Fred set & I won.   But I have never managed a satisfactory sonnet; and am full of envy.

Bravo Bruce.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:05 AM

TRIOLET II

                I now have only dreams to hold at night,
                Yet they, too, soon must pass, and leave me blind:
                Without you near to me, to memories light,
                I now have only dreams to hold at night.
                If I could only touch you, hold the sight
                Of your soft eyes, I would not tonight mind:
                I now have only dreams to hold at night,
                Yet they, too soon, must pass, and leave me blind.


                                                                16/3/77

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:07 AM

Villanelles ARE tough…


VILLANNELLE


                I do not have the heart to this love lend,
                For what would be a moment: not, to fade,
                For even you, my distant green-eyed friend.

                I am too set upon my ways to bend,
                Even to save my soul. I am afraid
                I do not have the heart to this love lend.

                There is something wrong, that I must defend
                The reasons I am so, my dreams unplayed,
                For even you, my distant green-eyed friend.

                When we first met, then I did not intend
                To sink so deep into your eyes of jade:
                I do not have the heart to this love lend.

                I do not now desire to this love rend
                To shreds of dream, but will not soul abrade
                For even you, my distant green-eyed friend.

                The time is past that you might comprehend,
                But I must still try, as then, to persuade:
                I do not have the heart to this love lend
                For even you, my distant green-eyed friend.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:09 AM

but chinquapins are a LOT more fun to write...



Cinquain X

                My love,
                I still can smell
                Strawberry scented hair
                Even after you have left me
                To dream.

                                                13 April 77

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:14 AM

but chinquapins are a LOT more fun to write...


CINQUAINS!!!

I claim to be able to WRITE, not type!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:44 AM

Encore bravo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:49 AM

1061 left to go…


Sonnet 27/06/06                                  MLXII

The memory of dreaming of your eyes
Will have to serve to fulfill my desire:
I cannot ask for hope. Would you advise
That I forget just smile, or life, entire?
Dream of muse seems to be forever part
Of past, and present: Can future ignore
Vision I long to hold? Can you give heart
A reason to not wish to dream restore?
Heart has only a dream, to hope refine:
Should I deny concern that you are well,
Or that I want you happy? Is hope sign
That I will always be under your spell?
If dream of muse is all that I can hold,
Can heart ever have night it is not cold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 12:12 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce - PM
Date: 05 May 04 - 04:46 AM

Let me see... How to kill a thread. No dragons and firestone here, so...

I can post a sonnet. If anyone pposts after it, I will take it as encouragement, and post another. THAT should do it! (I have LOTS of sonnets)
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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 01:03 PM

Where do you publish, Bruce? Under what name?

Serious ?????s

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 02:16 PM

A few published in lit magazines. Not much of a market- won a few sonnet contests.

Planning on publishing the ones to one muse ( 293) as soon as xlibris can get their act together and stop trig to sell me extra "sales programs".

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 03:06 PM

Thank you. All best with the project.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Musket
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 07:21 AM

Saying my doggerel wasn't a sonnet is like saying Picasso isn't art because it isn't a mirror on a scene.

Rules? I've shit 'em.






Mind you, I wouldn't know a Picasso from a giraffe's arsehole.






I win

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 09:39 AM

♫♫No you don't! No you don't! No you don't!♫♫

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jan 14 - 02:55 PM

Worth posting just to keep the sonnets coming. Bruce, wish you would let that side of yourself out in your prose elsewhere on Mudcat.

xo

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 01:10 AM

O610 hrs here --

Good morning all!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Janie
Date: 25 Jan 14 - 11:18 PM

And now, good night!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 12:30 AM

0530 hrs. hi

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jan 14 - 01:35 PM

And Sunday afternoon at the Delaware beaches...

More sonnets? I can do that...

Sonnet 23/06/06                                  MLXI

How long will I have even dream of you,
When all I hear is silence? Dare dream seek
For vision of your smile? Hopes are too few
To tell my heart reason you do not speak.
How long will I even for true love seek,
When all desire leads heart to just despair?
Without your smile, dream cannot to heart speak
Of hope, or holding in arms one to care.
How long will I long for what will not be,
Wasting my life looking for future lost?
Is there reason that I cannot break free
To love without my muse, and pay the cost?
Without the dream that thought of you still gives,
How can I think that love in future lives?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 14 - 06:38 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Jan 14 - 12:40 PM

SEVEN?!

Wow!



Thanks. That gets you another one...


Sonnet 18/05/06                                  MLX

Have I a reason now to care, when all
I hear from her is silence? Should I seek
To know of present dreams? Dare my words speak
About hope, or desire? Must my heart fall,
For having found this muse? I cannot call,
Yet need to know that she is well: I hold
To memory of smile. All I have told
Still remains true: Thought of her hopes install.
Dream does not fill need to her present know,
Nor what future might bring. She does not share
Worries, nor verse: How can I concerns show?
Heart aches, wanting to show that I still care,
But without chance or hope that hope might grow.
If only she for past had time to spare.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Jan 14 - 12:56 PM

"Shave and a Haircut — two bits!"

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 30 Jan 14 - 07:04 AM

Bearded Bruce is certainly a talented poet. Could I respectfully ask for another cheerful sonnet?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 04:10 AM

Shave & a haircut: five €

    ♩   ♫    ♪ ♩    ♩    ♩

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 07:26 AM

My patience is wearing thin
If I have to write a sonnet to win
This bleeding thread.


Did you know? There are conflicting rules as to what makes a sonnet something of that title?

Therefore, my earlier love ode is a sonnet after all.

Musket 1. Bearded Bruce 0.

Michael on the sub bench.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 09:04 AM

Shave & a haircut: five ducats

    ♩   ♫    ♪♩      ♩ ♩

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 02:01 PM

Sorry, Musket. You are wrong- your attempt at a sonnet does not meet any of the criteria.


Cheerfull sonnet? Not sure I have many of those...


Sonnet 08/05/06                                  MLIX

Is this the time to seek an avatar
Of muse, to give what she no longer cares
To offer me? Must heart find some new star
To guide to one who might lend hope repairs?
It hurts to lose her smile and know I'll hold
My muse no further time. Dream cannot keep
The tears from falling: Her silence has told
So much, with nothing. Even my hopes weep.
Yet, should I shadow seek when she is still
Within the reach of dream? She did not tell
That I could not think of her: Has heart will
To dream without hope, still under her spell?
It does not matter: How can heart replace
The one who lights dream with thought of her face?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 31 Jan 14 - 03:52 PM

Bruce: Agree re ineligibility of Musket's so-called "Sonnet"; it just isn't one -- and he knows perfectly well the necessity for, and usefulness of, accurate & precise categorisation. Only recognised variant from the 14-line form, which subsumes the Petrarchan, Spenserian, Shakespearean, Miltonic &c variants, and others in other languages [esp Italian, the original -- invented by Petrarch -- & French], is Gerard Manley Hopkins's proportionately reduced variant, which he called the 'curtal sonnet' ~~ worth looking up on wikipedia for those interested in the sonnet form.

Your own most accomplished efforts appear to me in the main to vary between the Spenserian & Shakespearean forms.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 07:32 AM

I actually like sonnet coronas, and have done one sonnet redouble.


Sonnet 28/04/06                                  MLVIII

Is there reason to dream, when dreams are all
Heart can expect to hold? Can dream inspire
Without some hope? Will heart find one to call
Sweet muse, and dearest friend, if dreams desire?
Is there reason to care, when my concern
Appears unwanted? Should I spend my thought
Where I can never hope to my hopes earn,
Though I see in her eyes all I have sought?
Is there reason to live, without the chance
To hold the one heart loves within my arms?
What is purpose, without hope for romance,
Of words, and hopes, and dreams about her charms?
Without reasons, I must still let my heart
Acknowledge that to muse I owe my art.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 07:55 AM

You also know that I don't know half of what you just posted.

On a serious note just for one short paragraph. Bruce's work is rather good.

Ok.

Putting rules around it is just a way to badge a form of doggerel.

Mort'Arthur had ten syllables per line. I wrote a song on the same terms and abandoned it on the basis of not easy to put cadences in the melody I had lined up for it.

Moral ?


Anarchy beats rules every time.








You don't need to reply

Either of you.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 08:06 AM

But we will-


Probably both of us.


I guess you don't approve of notes being in a scale, either. After all, what does it matter if the interval between them is a full note, or random?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 08:28 AM

Badges are useful. So are popguns. So are categories. A pretence of ignorance OTOH is an insufferable affectation.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 08:50 AM

Sonnet 28/04/06                                  MLVII

I think about past muse, and heart desires
To know if she is happy. Can I ask,
When she does not reply? I cannot mask
Concern about her, yet my heart requires
Only that she is well: If she still tires
Of all my words, should I beg for reply
She does not wish to send? Must I deny
That I still care for one who dream inspires?
I remain fool, for all my years, to know
Her thought, and still have dreams. Yet, she is still
So beautiful: Can I to that be blind?
I long for words that would my longings show,
Yet not demand even her smile. Dreams fill
The emptiness: Might I cause to hope find?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 09:13 AM

MtheGM,

Acually, there were a number of early sonnets ( Wyatt and Surrey) that were 18 lines, but that was dropped by the late Elizabethan period. The tendency was for sonnet sequences, rather than making the sonnets longer.


Sonnet 24/01/02                        DCL

A sonnet is a frozen tear, a kiss,
Preserved in fourteen lines. It is a pearl
Of layered thought, a gem too bright to miss
When set on page: One blossom, to unfurl
To perfect flower. As amber, sealed soul
In timeless tomb, it can show time long past,
Or hold this instant in it's grasp. The whole
Of heart upon one single page, to last
Beyond even our dreams, it seems a sip,
Distilled to essence. Refined within mind,
Lines sing sweet song, and rhymes in patterns slip,
To weave image that leaves mere vision blind.
A single chord, to resound in one's heart:
Echo of past that might our future start.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 10:22 AM

My one sonnet redouble.

YES, I DO know it exceeds the page- but a 210 line poem will.





Sonnet Redouble, to Katie Elizabeth


My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
And hold to source of dream? You are the cause
Of my desires, a vision that gives start
To words of my emotion. Shall I pause
From caring, when I hear only the wind?
Can dream replace the touch of lips, or line
Hold you as arms desire? Can heart rescind
All feelings, or chance of your love decline?
You are the center of my dreams, the core
That defines structure of desire: You lend
The form, to fill my fantasy, and more,
You offer focus, to emotions bend.
How can I find this hope, that dreams require,
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?

To tell of my concerns, and my desire,
Seems beyond power that mere words contain.
You are one who more than just dreams inspire:
Can my heart's hope more than soft smile obtain?
All vision fades, with distance: Can I see
Beyond my own desires? You are the light
To show image of what dreams hope to be;
The source of brightness that to hope is sight.
Will muse be all I seek, when I reach out
To touch your fire? Can lips not seek to kiss
Your palm, forehead, and neck, and try to scout
Where I might offer pleasure, and earn bliss?
Desire feeds dreams, and passion forms my art:
Can longing be enough to future start?

Can longing be enough to future start
When I have sought for muse too many years?
Having found you, how could I think to part
From vision that guards me from past's cold tears?
Can I hold back from love, when your smiles send
Desire to warm my heart? Shall I not care
If I might please you, or let words pretend
I do not suffer when you sadness share?
Can I be more than poet, to hold muse
Within both arms and thought? Shall verse remain
My goal, or should I deeper passions choose,
When night allows desire to hopes explain?
Though you give light to dream, and verse inspire,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?
 
Can dream be all to which I might aspire
When vision fills each night, and day? I seek
For happiness: What god would heart require
As tithe to future that only seems bleak?
Can passion be contained, controlled, or bound
By reason and by sense? Can desire burn
Without some warmth, and will my hopes be found
To hold only to dreams mere friendships earn?
Can longing be ignored, and set aside?
Can I not breath, nor feel, nor let mind think?
Would I be able to from my heart hide
All that I hope, and dream, to darkness sink?
Though more than my desire and source of rhyme,
I have no claim upon your heart, or time.

I have no claim upon your heart, or time
To build more fantasy upon your smile.
You embody desire, but can hope mime
Reality, that dream might future style?
You remain goal, beyond heart's hope to reach
Yet too dear to be set aside, or locked
Inside, unsaid. Will dream be brought to teach
Pleasure, or will all hopes by fact be mocked?
All that I hope, I owe to thought of you.
Your smile illuminates my dreams, your eyes
Reach to my soul, and offer heart what few
Have sent: A dream, of love that fate defies.
I offer heart and mind, to pay dream's fee:
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.

Though I may seek for soul, you remain free
To ask for what you will: I'll not deny
My muse all that I have, nor would I be
Unwilling to all of your desires try.
You guide my dreams, and steer my hopes in ways
That excite my desires: How can I mask
How much I want to hold you? Can dream raise
My hopes enough that I might desires ask?
I do not think you need my love, but know
I require what concern hope might yet send.
My dreams are fragile, formed in heart, and show
More of desires than Truth reasons defend.
Should I think that to seek for love is crime?
Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime?
 
Can I ask for a smile, to my dreams prime
With passion? Would my hopes give heart a chance,
Without some sign to show you care, to climb
From depths of dark despair to sweet romance?
I want far more than glance, but know I hold
No key, to chain you to my dreams. Yet, dream
Would wrap arms around you, to warmth enfold:
I cannot deny that in heart I scheme.
I desire chance to show how much I care,
Beyond desire: All dreams center on you.
Shall I offer my heart, or can I dare
To ask if I might your smile try to view?
I know I have no hope to from hope flee:
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?

Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea
To give reason for hopes, or make dreams real?
Will thought become true deed, or heart agree
It will in future only pleasures feel?
My hopes, and heart, cannot ignore your eyes,
Nor keep desires to what is within reach.
Yet, should I refuse dream that otherwise
Gives joy? Should I but bitter thoughts beseech?
All reason flees: I chase moonbeams, and seek
For vision seen only within my mind.
What can I say, that would fantasy speak,
That could alter the world, to desire find?
How can I hope deny, or passions fight:
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light.

You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Bringing a hope of heaven, and a touch
Of subtle passion to echoes of night.
How can my dreams of you remain as such?
I search your words, for image, and for hint
Of what might make you smile, or how to bend
Your dreams to thought of me. Eyes need no tint
To see what soul desires, to my heart mend.
I see what heart desires, but am I blind,
Looking at light too bright? I do not know
How I might filter out my dreams, or find
If hope is lust, or deeper passion's glow.
You remain muse, that heart can't set aside;
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.
 
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide
To realms of dream, and of desire, you bring
Light to my darkness. Can my heart abide
Without some thought of your soft smile seeking?
Dear one, is future preordained, that all
My hopes are less than dust? I dare not hold
To such a faith: I would to heaven call
And ask for dispensation, to dreams mold.
Can vision torn from dream be true, or show
More than my fondest wish? Can my heart care
Less for itself than that you passions know?
How can I dream, when you all my dreams snare?
Without a chance to kiss, or hold you tight,
How can I know if my concern is right?

How can I know if my concern is right
When all I hold are dreams? Can heart discern
What you would have me do? Can words invite
Hope beyond dream, or give heart chance to learn?
How can I hope to offer more than wit,
When I share only words? Can care remain
Within, hidden from life, without a bit
Of dream escaping to my hopes explain?
How can I care so much for one, unseen,
Beyond all hope of passion? Can I hold
My heart from love, when all that hope can glean
From dream is that time does not make one old?
What hope have I to future dream decide,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?

To tell if words should hope display, or hide
All feelings, heart must find a path to lead
Out of my dreams. Yet, would I turn aside
For fear heart might lose something that I need?
How can I deny dreams, or hope refuse,
When without thought of you my nights are cold?
My dreams bring joy, since I found you, my muse;
How can I let your effect be untold?
I wear heart on my sleeve: You are the maid
I hold as Lady Muse, but should I try
To be more than just friend? Hopes do not fade
With time, but can my heart to sense reply?
Heart seeks to show your colours, and dreams rule:
I do not know if I am knight, or fool.
 
I do not know if I am knight, or fool
To care for you, when I can't hope to reach
Beyond desire. I cannot think you cruel,
Though I might wish far more than rhyme to teach:
You are one I desire, but more, I care
That you are happy, and future enjoy.
What should I do? Can words hope to repair
Your dreams? How can I past demons destroy?
You know I seek to have you laugh, and smile,
Though I might want to hold you, and to kiss
Forehead, and palm, and lips. Might I dream, while
I remain distant? Is concern remiss?
I do not know if I should dream o'errule;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Whether to offer heart, or passions cool
Remains beyond decision. Dream is all
I have: I cannot desire for you school
Out of my dreams, nor out of longing fall.
Yet, dare I ask to fulfill dreams, or tell
How I might offer passion for your night?
I care too much to risk breaking this spell
You hold me in, that fills my dreams with light.
Reason requires that heart be held in check,
But desires control dreams, and hope. I long
To whisper in your ear, and nibble neck,
But do not know if action would be wrong.
I offer heart, and soul, and all of art:
My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart?

My Lady Muse, how can I reach your heart
To tell of my concerns, and my desire?
Can longing be enough to future start,
Can dream be all to which I might aspire?
I have no claim upon your heart, or time;
Though I may seek for soul, you remain free.
Can I ask for a smile to my dreams prime?
Can I hope that you'll listen to my plea?
You are my heart's desire, my muse of light,
Sweet inspiration of my verse, and guide.
How can I know if my concern is right,
To tell if words should hope display, or hide?
I do not know if I am knight or fool;
Whether to offer heart, or passions cool.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 10:41 AM

"Acually, there were a number of early sonnets ( Wyatt and Surrey) that were 18 lines"
,..,
My recollection, Bruce, is that the inclusion of these within the "Sonnet" definition & category has been a subject of some taxonomic debate & disagreement within the prosodically defining part of the academic community. I probably read all about it at some stage during my undergraduate days, 1952-55. But I honestly haven't the energy to go back into it again ~~ a bit like Mr Brooke in Middlemarch who, you will recall, constantly claims to have "gone into all that at one time". So I will concede that you might well have a point here; but OTOH...

Best regards anyhow
~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 11:18 AM

When Wyatt brought the form back from Italy, SOME of his "English Sonnets" were 18 lines. The standard in English is 14 lines- the 18 line variant never caught on.

But what Musket writes ARE NOT SONNETS.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 11:24 AM

Sir Thomas Wyatt (1503 – 11 October 1542)[1] was a 16th-century English ambassador and lyrical poet. He is credited with introducing the sonnet into English. He was born at Allington Castle, near Maidstone in Kent, though his family was originally from Yorkshire. His mother was Anne Skinner and his father, Henry Wyatt, had been one of Henry VII's Privy Councillors, and remained a trusted adviser when Henry VIII came to the throne in 1509. In his turn, Thomas Wyatt followed his father to court after his education at St John's College, Cambridge. None of Wyatt's poems were published during his lifetime—the first book to feature his verse, Tottel's Miscellany of 1557, was printed a full fifteen years after his death.[2]
…….


Wyatt's professed object was to experiment with the English tongue, to civilise it, to raise its powers to those of its neighbours.[12] A significant amount of his literary output consists of translations and imitations of sonnets by the Italian poet Petrarch; he also wrote sonnets of his own. He took subject matter from Petrarch's sonnets, but his rhyme schemes make a significant departure. Petrarch's sonnets consist of an "octave", rhyming abba abba, followed, after a turn (volta) in the sense, by a "sestet" with various rhyme schemes. Wyatt employs the Petrarchan octave, but his most common sestet scheme is cddc ee. This marks the beginnings of an exclusively "English" contribution to sonnet structure, that is three quatrains and a closing couplet.[13] 15 years after his death, the printer Richard Tottel included 97 poems attributed to Wyatt among the 271 poems in Tottel's Miscellany, Songs and Sonnets.
In addition to imitations of works by the classical writers Seneca and Horace, he experimented in stanza forms including the rondeau, epigrams, terza rima, ottava rima songs, satires and also with monorime, triplets with refrains, quatrains with different length of line and rhyme schemes, quatrains with codas, and the French forms of douzaine and treizaine.[14] Wyatt introduced contemporaries to his poulter's measure form (Alexandrine couplets of twelve syllable iambic lines alternating with a fourteener, fourteen syllable line), [15] and is acknowledged a master of the iambic tetrameter.[16]
While Wyatt's poetry reflects classical and Italian models, he also admired the work of Chaucer and his vocabulary reflects Chaucer's (for example, his use of Chaucer's word newfangleness, meaning fickle, in They flee from me that sometime did me seek). Many of his poems deal with the trials of romantic love, and the devotion of the suitor to an unavailable or cruel mistress.[17] Others of his poems are scathing, satirical indictments of the hypocrisies and flat-out pandering required of courtiers ambitious to advance at the Tudor court.
Wyatt was one of the earliest poets of the English Renaissance. He was responsible for many innovations in English poetry and, alongside Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey, introduced the sonnet from Italy into England.[12][18][17] His lyrics show tenderness of feeling and purity of diction. He is one of the originators of the convention in love poetry according to which the mistress is painted as hard-hearted and cruel.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 03:31 PM

More modern sonnets can be four line although one line can make the point. To wit. (To woo)

There was a young man from Nantucket...




(Nantucket being a long way from Limerick before you start )

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 03:44 PM

Sorry, a sonnet is 14 lines.


You are incorrect in calling what you have presented by the name "sonnet"


That would be like me calling a frog a vegetable, because it had something in common with vegetables. I could call it one, but I would be as wrong as you are in this situation.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 03:47 PM

But, since you posted, let me continue the countdown…


Sonnet 27/04/06                                  MLVI

I do not own my muse: I am possessed
By longing for her gift. Will she words send,
Echoes of dream, or is silence the best
That heart might hope for, to my longings end?
I do not wish for freedom from the chain
Desire and dream have wound around my heart.
Yet, should heart under her spell still remain
When she has no need for my dreams to start?
I do not have reason to think that time
Will alter situation: All dreams feel
Cannot change past. Can I hope with my rhyme
To even echo of her whisper steal?
I know dream is not real, yet I will rest
Knowing I was, for a while, by muse blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 03:48 PM

and 3200!!!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 05:49 PM

Thanks, Bruce. Well-intentioned I am sure. But I can't help thinking that anyone who wanted to know what Wikipedia has to say of Wyatt would be perfectly capable of accessing the entry for himself. What precisely your purpose in pasting it?

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Feb 14 - 07:55 AM

Posts require PURPOSE, other than to post?

Who else is being held to this standard on this thread??????


But another sonnet…


Sonnet 15/04/06                                  MLV

Can hope now be reborn, or will it fade
Without whisper from muse? Is there a chance
For dream, and heart's desire? Has soul been weighed,
And wanting found? Do my words lack romance?
Vision does not a future show, to give
Reason for other than more tears. In time,
Heart might some new light find, that dream might live,
Yet can another ever past muse mime?
Does desire for dream make me fool, to care
Unwanted? Are my longings less than real?
Was it too much, to think to starlight share
With one who has given dreams all they feel?
But for desire to always her smile earn,
I might just ask that muse my heart return.



Besides, a possible lover of Ann Boleyn deserves some mention…

It was also at this time that Wyatt became acquainted with Anne Boleyn, the king's mistress and soon-to-be wife. Scholars have pointed to suggestions in his poems (particularly "Whoso List to Hunt") and other anecdotal evidence to posit that he was Boleyn's lover. It is difficult, however, to firmly establish their relationship. In 1536, Wyatt was arrested shortly after five men alleged to have been Boleyn's lovers were imprisoned. Boleyn herself was imprisoned and executed for adultery. Wyatt spent only one month in the Tower and shortly thereafter regained Henry's favor. He would serve Henry VIII in various offices in England and abroad for the remainder of his life, and by all accounts was an accomplished diplomat.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:46 AM

"Besides, a possible lover of Ann Boleyn deserves some mention…"
.,,.
Well, if this thread is to become a 'purposeless' one, Bruce, to consist solely of whatever anyone thinks "deserves some mention", then I shan't bother to post to it, or even log on to it, again. Randomness is one thing: absolute anarchy another...

So it's all yours. Go go go with whatever you may deem to deserve mention

& I hope it keeps fine 4U ---

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤~M~❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 09:16 AM

This thread DOES have a stated purpose:

…………………………………………………..
Subject: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Little Hawk - PM
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 07:43 PM

Jim Dixon uttered something cosmic in another thread, regarding posts that kill threads. He said, "In every thread someone has to be last."

He's right. This is really something to ponder, so I have launched a thread to explore it in depth. Feel free to post and give your own thoughts on the matter.

WHO will be last in this thread???? Who will it be? And when will we know?

The suspense is mounting...

- LH
………………………………………………………………………………………….

Other than that…


Another sonnet:



Sonnet 06/04/06                                  MLIV

Will dawn follow this darkness? Will I find
Another muse to offer smile or dream?
I search, but in her absence hope is blind:
There is not light enough for tears to gleam.
Stars give no guidance: I can see no spark,
Nor beacon fire to show my heart the way.
I do not know if caring has left mark
Upon me, that I cannot desires say.
What can I do, to inspiration hold?
Where can I find a future? Will hope give
Some chance to fulfill dream? Is wish too bold,
That I should never let such longings live?
Far better to have cared for muse now lost,
Than not know love, no matter what the cost.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:19 PM

There was a young man of high station
Found by a pious relation
Making love on a ditch
To I won't say a bitch
But a woman of no reputation


Always been worried by that one. Where I come from having a reputation would describe the young lady.

No need for comments

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:31 PM

So, you want another sonnet?


Sonnet 04/04/06                                  MLIII

In time, tears will not form when I recall
Our conversations, and your words. You gave
Far more than I had earned: Could I not fall
For one whose inspiration still dreams save?
I cannot regret my concern: I hold
Your smile as precious. Still, perhaps I sought
Beyond hope's bound. I have only heart told:
I just return the love that you have taught.
Yet, should desire to hold you in my arms
Be such a crime, that dreams and hope must die?
What part of loving muse is it that harms
One I wish only well? Can hope not try?
I will not ask for more than that you tell
If you are loved, and all still remains well.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:34 PM

Musket

I would have thought the last line of your poem ( not a sonnet, but not bad)

should have been:

"But a woman of low reputation ."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 06:26 AM

Sure,

but isn't he The Limerick Rake, just ———

♫♫ ~a young fellow that's easy and bold~ ♩♩

begorrah & bedad ····


~M~

I know I said I'd gone away but you didn't really believe me did you

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:48 AM

I have no problems with other forms of verse- I just don't want people calling them sonnets.

By calling something a sonnet, the poet is stating that he is writing to meet a specific set of rules, and working within those rules. The term "ode" is also misused, but less rigorously defined.


I won't call a violin a piano ( both have strings) , so why should I accept calling a limerick a sonnet just because both are structured forms of verse?



But another sonnet…



Sonnet 04/04/06                                  MLII

Can heart find rest after hearing its muse,
While knowing she is gone? Can dream return,
Without her words? Does hope for smile excuse
Not taking chance to her desires learn?
Are echoes now enough to ease the pain
That losing muse has left? She was the light
To give dreams life: How can heart hope to gain
Vision to hold to soul, and sorrows fight?
Will there be chance to longings for her hold,
Or must desires remain ever ignored?
Is there no hope that words have feelings told,
And no future where past might be restored?
All future heart might feel, and those dreams see,
Will not replace that hope she once gave me.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:35 AM

Another sonnet variant… ( As long as it is distinguished from the "standard" sonnet)


"Poetic Form; Caudate Sonnet
    The Sonnet, with so many variations, is probably one of the most famous and well-known poetry forms out there. The term Sonnet comes from and the Italian word "sonetto" and the Occitan word "sonet" which both mean "little song".

    Throughout all it's variations, a Sonnet is generally thought of as;
-A poem written in fourteen lines.
-Follows a strict rhyme scheme.
-Has a specific structure.
-Written in meter(usually iambic pentameter*).
-Often has a Volta.**

*Iambic Pentameter- Ten syllable lines with alternating stresses, beginning on an unstressed syllable, followed by a stressed syllable, than another stressed syllable, etc..and having five stresses total). If x =unstressed and / = stressed, this is what a ten syllable iambic line would generally look like(though variations ending on an unstressed syllable do exist.); x/x/x/x/

**Volta- A Volta is a point in a poetic work where the direction of the poem changes. It could mean a shift in thoughts or the shifting point in a piece where first part of the poem is a question and the second has the answer. Any shift in thought would be considered a Volta. The Volta is most commonly used when talking about Sonnets and often occurs in a specific point in the Sonnet, depending on which Sonnet form is used.

    Now, some would say that the Sonnet Variation I'm going to discuss isn't really a Sonnet because it doesn't contain fourteen lines. However, it is a variation on an the very well-known Italian Sonnet and does contain the Volta and is written in iambic pentameter. Regardless of whether or not you consider the Caudate Sonnet a true Sonnet, it is a very interesting form and as it is one of my favorites, I feel it is very enjoyable to write.

    The creation of the Caudate Sonnet, which is also known as the Caudated Sonnet and the Tailed Sonnet is credited to Francesco Berni. The form is written in iambic pentameter and has a total of twenty lines, with a Volta at line eight. It actually begins with the complete Italian Sonnet, followed by a Coda***, a Heroic Couplet****, another Coda, and finally a Heroic Couplet.

***Coda- The term "Coda" is from the Latin term "cauda", which means "tail". It generally occurs near the end of a piece and is shorter than the other lines in that work. In the case of the Caudate Sonnet; the Coda is a line written in three metric feet. Since the poem is written in iambic pentameter, one metrical foot is two syllables, an unstressed syllable followed by a stressed syllable; x/. So, each Coda in the Caudate Sonnet is a line written in iambic trimeter, which gives it a total of six syllables. The stresses generally look like this; x/x/x/.

****Heroic Couplet- A Heroic Couplet is a two line, rhyming stanza written in Iambic Pentameter, where each line always has a masculine ending(ends on a stressed syllable). Using the variation on iambic structure to allow you to end on an unstressed syllable is NOT an option in a Heroic Couplet."


From AllPoetry.com

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:18 AM

But, come on, Bruce; aren't you going to write one about my Easter Bonnet? You promised!

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:18 AM

Not I! That was some other handsome devil, in a movie.



Sonnet 30/03/06 To a Waitress at Franklin's   MLI

I envy now your jacket, holding tight
Round curves to dream about: Can words relate
How you hold eyes, and thought? Can I words state
To tell I find you beautiful, tonight?
Is there reason I should not enjoy sight
Of your sweet smile? I do not ask for more
Though I might dream: To your soft curves ignore
Is beyond all that could ever be right.
You would arouse desire in any man:
I would be fool to not stare and enjoy
All that I see, or pretend otherwise.
You need not try to longing for you fan.
Just presence is enough: A glance from eyes,
And you have power to dreams heal or destroy.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 03:40 PM

by Irving Berlin

Never saw you look quite so pretty before
Never saw you dress quite so handsome - what's more

I could hardly wait to keep our date
This lovely Easter morning
And my heart beat fast as I came through the door
For...

In your Easter bonnet, with all the frills upon it
You'll be the grandest fella in the Easter parade.
I'll be all in clover, and when they look us over
We'll be the proudest couple in the Easter parade.

On the avenue, Fifth Avenue,
The photographers will snap us
And you'll find that you're in the rotogravure.
Oh, I could write a sonnet, about your Easter bonnet
And of the guy I'm taking to the Easter Parade.

On the avenue, Fifth Avenue,
The photographers will snap us
And you'll find that you're in the rotogravure.

Oh, I could write a sonnet
About your Easter bonnet
And of the girl I'm taking to the Easter Parade.






Note that it is NOT a sonnet.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 03:44 PM

Both Bing AND Judy sang the song. This is Judy's script, with Bing in the last stanza.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 05:49 PM

Yes, thank you. I was perfectly well aware of the source. But, while you're about it, I still think you might oblige with a sonnet to my bonnet, Bruce, you old meanie [even if just maybe it does look more like a baseball cap]. I mean, a gifted sonneteer like you can surely come up with one for such an occasion...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 09:39 AM

Sorry. Not many sonnets since I lost my muse…




Sonnet 23/03/06                                     ML

A clouded moon in western sky, and chill
Harsh winds show me the dream heart will acquire
Without a muse: All of present hopes will
Fade, and soul can only of cold night tire.
Silence fills dream, and night is cold, without
Thought of her within arms: How can I sleep,
When heart cannot rest? Must all be in doubt,
That I cannot even my past dreams keep?
All that I have are muse's gift, those lines
That hold moments of dream. Are they to fade
From page, or might those words remain, as signs
I once had one who gave my verses aid?
How can I not be sad, to know I've lost
This muse, and fear that will all of dreams cost?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 04:34 AM

B O O !!!!!

//////

〠

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 08:39 AM

Boo who?



Another sonnet…


Sonnet 13/03/06                                     MXLIX

I cannot sleep, for fear that I might dream
About a muse beyond all reach: I weep,
To know no hope I might past hopes redeem.
How can I even echo of dream keep?
I cannot stop thinking about her: She
Remains focus, unseen, of my desires.
My dreams are blind, without her: Heart can see
No hope nor dream without light muse inspires.
I cannot reach my arms to her, to hold
The one who holds my heart. For all I long
To longing hide, arms still ache to enfold.
Must I think that to find this muse was wrong?
I cannot forget, nor not care about
My muse: Yet, heart must this muse live without.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 11:30 AM

Y,

BOO

2U

of course.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 11:45 AM

you seem to be twittering away your life…


another sonnet…


Sonnet 07/03/06                                     MXLVIII

Bright moon, shine upon muse and show her all
That might her joy increase. Can you muse teach
To gift world with her smile? Yet, dare dream fall
Back to desire for one beyond all reach?
I do not hear her, now, nor can I feel
Her thoughts, or dreams: How can I think to know
Her heart's desire, when silence from nights steal
All hopes from soul, that no future might grow?
I wait, for muse or sleep, but neither find,
And night brings heart no dream nor rest. How long
Must hope be beyond reach? Must I be blind
To all that muse does not share in her song?
I thank my muse for all that she has shared:
Yet, must I think it best if I'd not cared?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 11:58 AM

And something that I love- whether one reads it as a poem, or as a song…


Her Bright Smile Haunts Me Still
by W.T. Wrighton, in Heart Songs

'Tis years since last we met,
And we may not meet again.
I have struggled to forget
But the struggle was in vain.
For her voice lives on the breeze,
And her spirit comes at will,
In the midnight on the seas,
Her bright smile haunts me still.

For her voice lives on the breeze
And her spirit comes at will.
In the midnight on the seas
Her bright smile haunts me still.

At the first sweet dawn of light,
When I gaze upon the deep,
Her form still greets my sight
While the stars their vigils keep.
When I close mine aching eyes,
Sweet dreams my senses fill,
And from sleep when I arise
Her bright smile haunts me still.

When I close mine aching eyes,
Sweet dreams my senses fill,
And from sleep when I arise
Her bright smile haunts me still.

I have sailed 'neath alien skies,
I have trod the desert path,
I have seen the storm arise
Like a giant in his wrath.
Every danger I have known
That a reckless life can fill,
Yet her presence is not flown,
Her bright smile haunts me still.

Every danger I have known
That a reckless life can fill,
Yet her presence is not flown,
Her bright smile haunts me still.




Not a sonnet, but worthy of being brought out as often as possible.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

another sonnet…



Sonnet 24/02/06                                     MXLVII

Does desire for muse give dream chance to know
What heart truly requires, or does it find
Only reflections of the past? To show
The future: Would that vision filled my mind.
I miss my muse: How can I feelings tell
Without those whispers in the night? I wait,
But only silence share. I've lost the spell
Muse cast with smile: Are all dreams now too late?
Yet, that she is happy should ease concern
And regrets fade with each thought of smile. All
That I long to hold her, should hopes return,
Does not lessen joy that she found love's call.
Should I ask for a heart, when I desire
Only that she send voice to dreams inspire?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 12:10 PM

And post 3223!

Sonnet 07/02/06                                     MXLVI

Can dream of dream share enough with my soul
To ease my longings? Can hope give mind rest
At end of day, when dreams wake to control
All but themselves? Can my heart stand this test?
In all of past I cannot seem to find
The reason arms ache with the dream of you.
Yet, should I to absence remain resigned,
When dreams offer your eyes, and smile, anew?
Can cold reality offer me more
Than echoes of these dreams of muse provide?
Can dream any of hope to heart restore,
Or will heart learn to in itself abide?
Have I even a chance in dreams to hold
To one who all of my dreams of hope mold?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Musket
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 07:57 AM

I wandered lonely as a cloud,
That floats on high,
Along trees and river banks.
I trod upon a bloke's bare arse,
And heard a women's voice say "Thanks."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 09:16 AM

any chance you might want to try something with rhyme and meter?





Another sonnet…


Sonnet 26/01/06                                     MXLV

Have I reason to think you might be more
Than just beautiful woman? Will you share
Some of dreams' light, and with smile hopes restore?
Can I dream that there might be chance you'd care?
What can I do to earn a smile or give
Soft laughter cause? It seems that eyes can say
As much as all my words: Must longing live
Upon just glance? Has hope led heart astray?
Might I ask evening to explore your mind?
Would starlight guide our conversation? All
I ask is that we have a chance to find
If you are one that might my verses call.
Can I try to within my arms enfold
A vision that dreams upon page have told?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Musket
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 01:09 PM

Rhyme and meter?   I'm typing poetry, not lyrics!

Hillsborough, 26 December 1979
Sheffield Wednesday 4.0 Sheffield Utd

Hark now hear! The Wednesday sing!
United ran away!
And we will fight for ever more
Because of Boxing Day!


Now THAT'S poetry.....

If Irving Berlin had written it, it wouldn't be a sonnet either.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 01:11 PM

But this IS a sonnet:

Sonnet 24/01/06                                     MXLIV

Are you then muse, that I might find a rhyme
Reflected in your eyes? Know you the spell
To hold to dreams, and heart? Can you stop time
With power of just smile? Might you hopes tell?
I look at you, and wonder how to know
If you are what I seek: To dream, the light
Upon desire; To heart, reason to show
Longings to hold and be held throughout night.
Yet, do dreams matter? My thoughts do not bind
More than my own desires: You remain free.
I search, but do not know if what I find
Is just a dream, or vision of "to be".
I have no better means than to be bold,
And ask if you would want to my heart hold.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

Happy Valentine's Day, all…


Sonnet 24/01/06                                     MXLIII

How can I balance longing with desire
To know my muse is happy? Is there chance
She might her lines resume, or does she tire?
Will she for my verse spare even a glance?
Wanting her smile, perhaps I should not tell
Of hopes, or my desires. Yet, she is muse,
The reason for verse: With her, all is well;
Without, dreams only heart and soul confuse.
Can I think about her, and not muse seek?
Not under stars, or moon, or sun: She holds
The power to dream of life to soul speak,
Yet, it cannot be muse that dream enfolds.
She is heart's hope, and dream's desire, but all
That I now hold cannot her smile recall.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 10:38 AM

"Sonnets to My Muse"

https://www.xlibris.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000765381

Already available discounted on-line.



Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 11:22 AM

I have been last for 1383 days.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Janie
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 12:20 PM

Not anymore :>)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 12:30 PM

1383 days vs 1.3 hours...

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 12:40 PM

And of course, another sonnet:

Sonnet 1/11/17                                             MXCV


How can I friendship show, to one I care
For more than I have earned? She remains muse,
Yet I cannot now hear her dreams, nor share
More than concern: Of what she might refuse
I dare not seek. If I might bright smile win,
I would be satisfied to only hold
Past memories: Not dreams, as I would spin
Imagined touch into hopes far too bold.
I wish her only well, and that the night
Might remain sorrow-free, and days be spent
Without regret. Yet, have I still the right
To verses weave, much less that words be sent?
A decade does not alter my desire,
And dream of muse will still my verse inspire.


8-(E

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:34 AM

And another sonnet- 85th to my reluctant muse.

Sonnet 16/05/18                      MCLXV


How can I write words worth a muse’s smile,
When I’ve not seen her for some time? I fear
That I repeat these lines, without muse near
To guide verse on. Can I hope to find new
Image in darkness? Without light as true
As I see in her eyes, how will I show
What muse means to my heart, or let muse know
That I find absence to be heart’s hope’s trial?
Can vision of muse serve to show a part
Of what is found in eyes: A light so pure
That verse is formed in mind? I must verse write
Of hopes and dream, but will words in my heart
Find path to page, without light to insure
The way? Can soul speak, with muse out of sight?



"Sonnets to My Muse" the first 293 to my Forever Muse, Rebecca.
( Clicky fixed from earlier post)
https://www.xlibris.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?Book=546662

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:44 AM

The earliest known records of the Nine Muses are from Boeotia, the homeland of Hesiod.

Some ancient authorities thought that the Nine Muses were of Thracian origin.[5]

There, a tradition persisted that the Muses had once been three in number.[6]

In the first century BC, Diodorus Siculus quotes Hesiod to the contrary, observing:

Writers similarly disagree also concerning the number of the Muses; for some say that there are three, and others that there are nine, but the number nine has prevailed since it rests upon the authority of the most distinguished men, such as Homer and Hesiod and others like them.[7]

Diodorus also states (Book I.18) that Osiris first recruited the nine Muses, along with the Satyrs, while passing through Ethiopia, before embarking on a tour of all Asia and Europe, teaching the arts of cultivation wherever he went.

According to Hesiod's account (c. 600 BC), generally followed by the writers of antiquity, the Nine Muses were the nine daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne (i. e. "Memory" personified), figuring as personifications of knowledge and the arts, especially literature, dance and music.

The Roman scholar Varro (116–27 BC) relates that there are only three Muses: one born from the movement of water, another who makes sound by striking the air, and a third who is embodied only in the human voice. They were called Melete or "Practice", Mneme or "Memory" and Aoide or "Song". Three ancient Muses were also reported in Plutarch's (46–120 AD) Quaestiones Convivales[8] (9.I4.2–4).[9]

However, the classical understanding of the Muses tripled their triad and established a set of nine goddesses, who embody the arts and inspire creation with their graces through remembered and improvised song and mime, writing, traditional music, and dance. It was not until Hellenistic times that the following systematic set of functions was assigned to them, and even then there was some variation in both their names and their attributes: Calliope (epic poetry), Clio (history), Euterpe (flutes and lyric poetry), Thalia (comedy and pastoral poetry), Melpomene (tragedy), Terpsichore (dance), Erato (love poetry), Polyhymnia (sacred poetry), Urania (astronomy).


The nine Muses on a Roman sarcophagus (second century AD)—Louvre, Paris
According to Pausanias in the later second century AD,[10] there were originally three Muses, worshipped on Mount Helicon in Boeotia: Aoid? ("song" or "tune"), Meléte ("practice" or "occasion"), and Mn?me ("memory"). Together, these three form the complete picture of the preconditions of poetic art in cult practice.

In Delphi three Muses were worshiped as well, but with other names: N?te, Mése, and Hýpate, which are assigned as the names of the three cords of the ancient musical instrument, the lyre.

Alternatively, later they were called Kephis?, Apollonís, and Borysthenís, which names characterize them as daughters of Apollo.

In a later tradition, a set of four Muses were recognized: Thelxinóe, Aoid? Arche, and Meléte, said to be daughters of Zeus and Plusia or of Ouranos.

One of the people frequently associated with the Muses was Pierus. By some he was called the father (by a Pimpleian nymph, called Antiope by Cicero) of a total of seven Muses, called Neil? (?e???), Trit?ne (???t???), Asop? (?s?p?), Heptápora (?pt?p??a), Acheloís, Tipopl? (??p?p??), and Rhodía (??d?a).

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:49 AM

Euterpe (flutes and lyric poetry)
Erato (love poetry)
Polyhymnia (sacred poetry)

Are my Muses,

Star, Kelly, Katie, Rebecca, and Sara

have been my muses.

84th sonnet to Sara

Sonnet 14/05/18                         MCLXIV


I do not worship muse, but I will pray
That Heaven shares her time. I would be blessed
To see her smile. I have heart’s hope confessed,
But do not demand that she meet desire:
To view her eyes will always verse inspire.
Yet, will it remain for forever wrong
To dream of muse, and for her kisses long?
Must I at such a distance always stay?
I am held by the light of muse’s eyes,
Touching her only with words. I may yearn
For more, but cannot muse’s wish defy.
I hope verse might to muse’s level rise.
That I would something new of Heaven learn.
I know only I cannot muse deny.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:51 AM

From 1327 to 1368, Petrarch wrote 366 poems as part of a sequence, centered on the theme of his love for Laura. The sequence—collected in a canzoniere or song-book, usually called Rime Sparse, or Scattered Rhymes in English—includes 317 sonnets, a form based on rules established by the 13th-century Italian poet Guittone of Arezzo. The earliest major practitioner of the sonnet, Petrarch is credited with the development and popularization of the Italian sonnet, thus called the Petrarchan sonnet.

About Petrarch’s legacy, the poet J. D. McClatchy has said, “True love—or rather, the truest—is always obsessive and unrequited. No one has better dramatized how it scorches the heart and fires the imagination than Petrarch did, centuries ago. He dipped his pen in tears and wrote the poems that have shaped our sense of love—its extremes of longing and loss—ever since.”

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:52 AM

I can post my Sonnet Redouble to Sara, if anyone replies to this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 11:53 AM

(see post of Date: 14 May 04 - 12:02 PM for my previous Sonnet Redouble)

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 18 - 04:29 PM

a redoubled sara muse?









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Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 May 18 - 04:50 PM

A sonnet redouble-a sequence of 14 sonnets in a corona, followed by a15th sonnet consisting of the first lines of each of the sonnets in order.

Didn’t I explain this for the first one?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 18 - 10:42 AM

Sonnet Redouble 2:
To My Reluctant Muse

Sonnets MCXLI through MCLV

Arms ache with longing to my muse enfold,
But Heaven remains beyond reach of heart:
How can I to reluctant muse impart
All that she gives? Words alone do not tell
What in her eyes and smile become the spell
To fill my mind with verse. She brings a light
To shadowed dream, to make my work seem right,
That I might hope I have my passions told.
How will I repay muse who is the source
Of vision, and of dream? I cannot give,
In all my verses, words enough to show
How much she means to me: Heart holds to course
At her guidance. I must let longings live,
For all I know she does not wish it so.

For all I know she does not wish it so,
I will acknowledge debt I owe my muse.
Without her light as guide, dream would refuse
To show me what to write, and how to share
Thought of my heart’s desire: That I might care
As much as muse allows. She holds the key
To inspiration in her smile to me:
How can I keep from letting longings grow?
She gives me reason to heart’s feelings write,
In dream of her warm eyes, and sight of smile
So sweet, to encourage my passions’ flow.
I long to hold muse always in my sight,
But know to not unasked of hopes make trial:
How can I let her my heart’s desires know?

How can I let her my heart’s desires know
When I cannot my muse’s dream recall?
Should she inform my heart, that would be all
I need: I would then try to dream fulfil,
If I might, and have cause to think she will
Accept my offering of heart’s caring.
Not knowing dream, I’ll but send words bearing
My hope to see more of her eyes’ bright glow.
If I might future find in dreams inspired
By thought of muse, would I then know the way
For verse to take to win to goal, or lose
All that I seek offending muse? So mired
In questions, I dare not heart’s desires say
Without giving cause that she would refuse.

Without giving cause that she would refuse
I try to tell muse how I value smile,
But do not know the words I may write: While
I dare not say too much, it would be sin
To say too little. In sight I begin
To find my inspiration. Can I send
Enough to tell, but not sweet muse offend?
Would I win attention if words amuse?
I long to find perfect word, to describe
The curve of muse’s lips, that smiles create.
Yet, I am satisfied to recall views
And dream I might of heaven’s kiss imbibe.
Should I my own heart’s desire now relate,
To share her smile, or let dream of her choose?

To share her smile, or let dream of her choose
The future path of all endeavors seems
To be all I might dare: I have no schemes
That will win more than asked. Must I recall
Unfounded dream, when I know dream is all
That I might hold at night? Should I dream let
Control imagination, sleep upset,
And from verse hide all of my muse’s views?
In muse I seek to focus of art find,
That I might hold to a fixed path that ties
Dreams and desires into verse that defines
My soul. Apart from muse, I remain blind:
Without her smile, and the light from her eyes,
What can inspire all of my future lines?

What can inspire all of my future lines
When I so rarely at my muse may look,
To see her eyes and smile? Yet, in what book
Have I found promise that my dreams will be?
I’ve only faith and hope muse might agree
To guide my words, and lend heart’s passions voice.
I dare not falter: I have only choice
To pray muse gives power that verse refines.
In muse I find reason to care: The gem
Of bright eyes that let light into my soul.
Yet, should I look in my dreams for the signs
Of hope? Does not seeing my muse condemn
Heart to darkness, and verse from reaching goal?
Must I abandon hope that her light shines?

Must I abandon hope that her light shines
Upon the dreams that give me verse? I fear
The darkness absence brings: How might I steer
A path to muse’s presence? Dare I ask
To spend time with my muse, or is that task
I cannot on her place? Must heart defend
The need for conversation? I intend
Only to learn what hopes now muse defines.
Without some dream of muse, heart is as blind,
Not seeing soul, and falling to despair.
Should I have concern caring is too bold,
That I must longings keep only in mind?
Might I ask for my muse to sweet smile share,
To give reason to any verses mold?

To give reason to any verses mold
Requires a muse. To form more than just dream,
There must be light from higher realm, a beam
To fill the mind. So few provide the spark
That fires the soul and lifts heart from the dark:
Might I hold to this one, now found, to keep
The inspiration? Would she have me weep,
That passion’s heat condemns heart to be cold?
I wait, hoping to spend a future hour
With one who causes verse. I must head bow
In silent prayer that heart might fears retire.
Can I hope that muse will let my dreams flower
To vision of her smile, or tell me how
Am I to hold as hidden heart’s desire?

Am I to hold as hidden heart’s desire
To muse repay for gift? Can I not thank
The one who fills my verse? Mind would be blank
Without sight of her eyes: Her smiles restore
Heart’s dream to life. Should I not beg, implore,
And plead, for all that muse might share? I prize
Seeing my muse: Perhaps it is not wise,
But I care for one who holds heart entire.
Yet, should I write of longings, when I know
I do not hold my muse’s heart? I try
To dream of only smile, but heart might sin
When muse is beautiful. When verses flow,
I can but hope I might on words rely,
That I might offer cause for smile, or grin.

That I might offer cause for smile, or grin,
To give me muse’s grace, would be my wish.
I must hope I can with verse accomplish
Intent: To dream of muse hold on the page,
And keep a part of muse as mine. My stage
Is fourteen lines, and muse provides the wing
To lift words from paper, letting verse sing.
I fear I must all of hopes on muse pin.
How can I know what words muse will allow,
Until words I share? Can I hold dream, while
Reaching to muse? Dare I let desires toy
With what muse provides me? Do I break vow
To not of muse ask? Only with her smile
Can I know what to write, to lines employ.

Can I know what to write, to lines employ
In reaching muse? Dare I reveal that part
Of soul is bound? Desires may my dreams start,
But it is smile that offers verses life.
How am I to find peace, out of this strife,
Without my muse’s blessing? Will she share
The light of eyes, bringing glow to her hair?
Can I see heaven and not lust destroy?
It seems muse has from heaven brought a charm
And beauty to guide mortal fools who’ve earned
The pleasure of her smile. Might she inspire
Enough to make verse worthy? Does hope harm
The chance of smile? Can heart remain unburned
In seeking to in muse’s eyes see fire?

In seeking to in muse’s eyes see fire,
To light dreams and warm heart, I find I fall
Into my own desires: I dare not call
My longings more than hope. She has made clear
I should not think that I might hold her ear.
Yet, can I less than care? She is the one
I will call muse: Would I gratitude shun,
To not give thanks she does not of verse tire?
In muse I see one who shares Heaven’s light
And I will pray, to have the chance to get
Such sacred blessings: I would my hopes spin
This verse to fabric of a worth, that might
Repay my muse for her gift, in soul set
To forge in mind words that might her smile win.

To forge in mind words that might her smile win
Requires true passion’s flame, and words refined
By higher power. The dreams one has in mind
Are but the ore: One must from them burn dross
That holds the soul to earth. From dream I’ll toss
All parts that are not holy, that I might
Hold to the prayer that muse will keep hopes bright.
The line between longing and lust is thin.
All I can do is try my best, to hold
To muse’s gift: She gives with smile the source
For Poetry. I hope not to annoy,
But I wish I might know if muse might fold
Her wings, and listen to my verse: Of course
I long to know how to bring my muse joy.

I long to know how to bring my muse joy
That I might see her smile, and take delight
In showing that the words I choose are right.
I hope to give her pleasure that I find
Such inspiration, yet must be resigned
To holding only in my dreams. Muse is grail,
To give verse desired power: I must veil
Any dream that would muse’s gift destroy.
I value muse for all she is, the cause
Of verse. For lines to vex I would regret:
My muse’s smile is worth far more than gold.
I do not know how to my desires pause,
With such a maid. She is an angel, yet
Arms ache with longing to my muse enfold.

Arms ache with longing to my muse enfold,
For all I know she does not wish it so.
How can I let her my heart’s desires know,
Without giving cause that she would refuse
To share her smile, or let dream of her choose
What can inspire all of my future lines?
Must I abandon hope that her light shines
To give reason to any verses mold?
Am I to hold as hidden heart’s desire
That I might offer cause for smile, or grin?
Can I know what to write, to lines employ
In seeking to in muse’s eyes see fire
To forge in mind words that might her smile win?
I long to know how to bring my muse joy.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 18 - 10:45 AM

OOOOPPSS!

"....
Into my own desires: I dare not call
My longings more than hope. She has made clear
I should not think that I might hold her near
                                        ^^^^^^
Yet, can I less than care? She is the one
...."

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: Donuel
Date: 21 May 18 - 11:04 AM

I have seen how various photos of ladies with lovely actions and physical charms nicely graces sonnets like these and connects with an audience on a deeper level.

It publishes well, particularly in tis climate.

think about it

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 18 - 11:10 AM

As in the book of poems to Lara in "Dr Zhivago" I include a picture of my muse at the beginning of the book.

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 18 - 09:09 AM

86th sonnet to my reluctant muse...

Sonnet 19/05/18                         MCLXVI


Clouds hide the moon, but if muse is present
The night would still be bright. From Heaven shims
The glow to dream illuminate: It finds
Words from my heart to place on page, that tell
Of feelings for one I wish only well.
Might I hope that, someday, my verse might speak
To muse’s heart? That I find her unique
Should not be reason to these dreams resent.
Rain gives no tears: I would only regret
If muse wanted the sun. To give her all
That might bring muse’s smile: That is my goal.
Yet, does my longing to please muse upset,
That I should not try to earn smile? Recall
Her smile gives verse: How else can I be whole?

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 May 18 - 09:48 AM

typos   

..... From Heaven shines

Subject: RE: BS: In every thread someone has to be last!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 May 18 - 12:36 PM

87th sonnet to my muse...

Sonnet 24/05/18                        MCLXVII

Muse might mean more to me than she desires,
But I cannot choose to not hope for all
That dream may share. I can limits recall,
Yet heart finds cause to think of muse as one
Who has a brighter light in eyes than sun
Shines down on me. How can heart keep away
From longing to forever with muse stay,
Or not to dream of one who gives verse fires?
Should I from all of dreams my heart recuse,
That I might less than love? Would I succeed?
I do not think I’ve chance to angel hold,
But care too much for one I find is muse:
How can I not want to keep what I need?
Without dream of this muse, my thoughts are cold.